Why The Internet Rejected Polar
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
- On August 6th, 2022, Reuters sent out a tweet about Meta’s new project. The tweet reads…
"ICYMI: Meet Polar, a metaverse-born singer, dancer and influencer. With 1.6 million followers on TikTok and more than over 500,000 subscribers on her CZcams channel, she has ambitions to perform in the real world"
Now, the very first time I looked at this tweet, I think I shared the same gut reaction that many others had who saw it as well.
For those who don’t know who Polar is, let me give you a quick explanation to catch you up. Polar is a 3d character produced by the folks over at Five Minute Crafts and being pushed by Meta, otherwise known as Facebook.
In this video I will discuss why the Internet collectively rejected Polar.
Intro: 0:00
"Who" is Polar: 0:41
Authenticity: 3:57
A Worrying Trend: 7:48
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The fact that she's from "the metaverse" just screams "I am an industry plant, I am literally a corporate creation"
She’s like an unflavored corpo vtuber
OperaGX does a 100x better time at pr than literally anything facebook will do.
Don't get me wrong their product is trash, but GOD do i just want to meet their marketing team.
Could make for a good angst fanfic. A thing created to sell an industry reflecting on what hell is it's existance
Hololive and Yahsma Corporation created Vtubers and the popular, Vocaloids. But those creations were at least nuanced, with some art and passion behind them. Polar doesn’t even seem to have any direction.
Metaverse gone
It's actually genius to cover her mouth so that the animators don't have to do lip syncing
But as seen in some clips, they are perfectly capable of animating mouth movement. And with such a budget and being the huge company they are, it just makes them look lazy. But yea, that is genius.
laziness isnt really genius but i guess
@@helixxia9320 Once, I've heard this proverb: "Efficiency is just clever laziness."
That being said, yeah the mask thing is just plain lazy.
Lmao bro said genius 💀 thts lazy and ugly asf in the animation.
Thats the issue with the average persons thinking in the modern world: Lazy = Genius
When compared to Vocaloid (and Miku in specific) it's somewhat fascinating to see how Polar and her brand have portrayed themselves and how it backfired. While Miku has had 'live' (holographic) concerts and interviews, there's really no illusion that Miku is just a fictional character as a vehicle for music, same with Gorillaz's characters or any music group with some character avatar. Miku having microphone issues on stage and having a cute anime freak-out before going into her next song is something everyone in the audience is aware is just part of the fun, part of the show. But Polar's character opens up with "i wanna be real, i wanna be treated like a *real* musician, i want to connect with fans", and paired with all the metaverse web3 crap it gives a very uncanny and fake vibe. Everyone knows Polar isn't real. It feels like a blurring between fictional character and real artist that comes off as uncanny.
Also, you just can't compete in the same space as Vocaloid, which at this point has an ocean of content to enjoy both official and fan-made, especially if your character is 'virtual girl with green hair'. Everyone already on board with Miku neither wants or needs a new one, and anyone with on-board with Polar will probably hop over to Miku when they discover Vocaloid has infinitely more going on.
It reminds me to Seraphine from League of Legends. Before her release, Riot made a Twitter account, that aimed to "connect with fans", painting her as an artist who portrayed herself with art instead of her own pics. That led to some parasocial weird thing, and then it was revealed that it was just a champion from a videogame... Yeah, I get bad vibes from both. It's like both big companies try to make people feel emotionally attached to their products...
The thing about vocaloid is how community driven it is. Artists like Kenshi Yonezu or YOASOBI have become popular due to Vocaloid.
Now, people are recognizing producers more, and Vocaloid is an actual emotional outlet for some, producers like Maretu, Kikuo, UtsuP, Neru, Syudou, and many more tackle real world issues through their songs, sometimes in a very graphic way.
Even lighter songs have feeling, you can see the effort producers put into them. Polar has no community, no feeling, her songs are meaningless.
Plus, Miku just turned 16 as of writing this and is collaborating with Pokémon. Freaking Pokémon!
Hell, they say shes the first but even splatoon has had the idols perform "live"
@@moonlit_rufflesand with better animation and fun. Watching Polar dance looks so….awkward.
You know what's the real deal with Polar? Just as you mentioned, Zuckenverga has all this data about users, yet his team can only create the most "how do you do, fellow kids?" character.
People like to compare her to Miku, and trust me, Miku has close to no official lore. But she nails it because people with actual messages and feelings use her as a vessel to express themselves.
In some songs, Miku is a victim of child abuse. In others, she breaks the 4th wall and is a software in love with the user. And sometimes she's fucking singing legit shitpost. With different personalities and such. And in just 3 min aprox she's more full of character than Polar.
And sometimes, she's a chronic masturbator who destroys her own house before breakfast.
I just read allat and Hatsune Miku indeed has more charm than this Polar bitch
against a fandom as big at the vocaloid’s, i dont think metaverse idols will actually succeed
vocaloid is the best thats why
@@Moemoechi vocaloid has a use, as an instrument. metaverse idols don't have any use.
@@rzna. basically metaverse = useless and vocaloid slays👍
@@littlemissmcha5945 that's not what I meant you dingus. polar is just a 3d avatar with a random woman singing behind it and this avatar just so happens to be marketed as a metaverse idol even though it has nothing to do with metaverse, meanwhile hatsune miku can be used as an instrument and can help people in their music plus already had concerts, designers had actual thought and effort in the design of miku and not some soulless avatar.
yeah vocaloid fans are just annoying and try to gatekeep things lol, all it does is make the fandom look more toxic then it already is
"Her music has no memes and no errapes so it's not considered a generation z classic"
It's the description I would use in her songs
Agreed
Here before this blows up 💖
well, even if she had earrapes and a thousand memes in her songs, it would be like putting a ribbon on a trash can, it's still a trash can even if you try to make it look ''better'' and it would just make her songs sound worse, like absolute supreme shxt and i would certainly shoot myself trying to listen to it.
Yeah
@@leaf143 cool
My biggest issue with polar in fact has less to do with her quality, but clear lack of research to claim to be the first ANYTHING. She’s not the first virtual singer, not the first person to work with an avatar, not the first virtual persona, she’s literally behind tens of thousands of people on twitch ALONE. we have so many musician vtubers on twitch, so many who mainly sing, that everyone, including my NON INTERNET PARENTS, knows what a vtuber is, without their kid having to explain it to them. Just that alone, that they would try to claim first over the likes od kizuna ai, ALL of hololive gen 0/1, over all of vocaloid and utau, all the vrchat club DJ’s, the japanese artists who have used been using virtual personas for years now, it’s downright disrespectful to the tens of millions of people who already consume this kind of content, AND to the people who already MAKE that content. I wouldn’t have cared at first, but if you’re coming into a new scene, you have to at least know your place, which 5 minute crafts and meta CLEARLY dont, and there is a very real seniority in the virtual scene.
That's what my friend group was most focused on when we were talking about Polar a couple months ago. We're all fans of several older and better virtual singers, so the marketing treating Polar as some groundbreaking thing got a collective eyeroll from us.
Fucking 2pac was a virtual signer LMFAO
Hatusne Miku's fandom literally has done more of the heavy lifting than the company that owns her. Since she's a voice software, fans can use her voice and likeness to create songs/stories that even Crypton would utilize in their own merch/events. Even most Japanese music artists got their start using her which adds this human authenticity and fan engagement that Polar doesn't have.
Even with 1,6 mil followers on TikTok and 500k subscribers on CZcams, I even didn't knew Polar exists until like 2 weeks ago.
Edit: 1 year later and wow, thanks for the likes. I appreciate that.
And I didn't even know it existed the day before yesterday
Sameeee
When I learned about her, I decided to listen to tons of Hatsune Miku just out of spite
Damn same
i didnt know she existed till today
5 minutes crafts be like: "How to make hatsune miku at home diy!"
IMAO
Very true i think this is a canon thing
I believe so!
On a 5 dollar budget! (not clickbait!) (Gone wrong?!?!)
Not even five dollars. Five cents is more like it.
I think she could have worked as a metal or dark synth idol with some better imagery and horror vibes. But the problem is companies want to appeal to the masses not a focused audience.
No way she could be metal. Metalheads wouldn’t put up with that.
@Bruh-ob9mi Damn it's been a whole year since this video wow.
I'm curious why you would say so because baby metal and metalhead vtubers are a thing. I think her visuals could work with some actual effort put in to make it work and a solid VA with it.
Those artists actually have redeeming qualities. Polar and her ilk have zero.@@BrotherVoidBomber
the Gorillaz also made it work, and generally for years people people didn't associate Damon Albarn with the band. Jamie Hewlett also made the band feel unique with his art style and the backstory behind the band and characters.
Miku wasn't even marketed to be an idol in the first place. She's just a music instrument. It's her mascot that attracted the masses. They put 2 and 2 together and her mascot became the "Hatsune Miku" identity we all know and love (it even drove Crypton Future Media to make KAITO and MEIKO's Vocaloid 1 mascots to be part of their image as well). Miku also has quite of a history and controversies during her uprising which added to her memorable factor.
Does Polar have that? Fuck no. 5 minutes crafts people thought adding cyan hair to their character means people will like them on the spot. That's not how it works.
307 likes with no replys... got ya bud
@@darklersytchannel8124 lmao
Yes, Crypton themselves basically just gave the community a character design and some basic spec sheets and let the community and artists shape what Hatsune Miku is. I've read somewhere that they purposefully made her essentially a blank slate so that there's no actual official "lore" for her, allowing it to be written by artists or the community instead.
Also, one thing that I think pushed Miku far is the license of the actual character design, which is under a Creative Commons license. This helped the character to be freely modified by the community and tweaked according to what artists desire, without worrying about infringing copyright.
polar is literally a 5-minute craft lmao
That's pretty much the gist of many of these kinds of knockoffs: copying surface level elements without understanding the actual reasons behind the products' popularity.
The current western comic book industry has been making a couple attempts at trying to copy narrative and aesthetic of manga, usually trying to copy the "Slice of life" model, but suffice to say, it's not succeeding.
if you want a funnier joke, the "polar logo" on her shirt is a copy and paste of the logo of the movie Polar from Netflix, a movie about a brutal hitman XD
I knew I've seen that text somewhere.
Omg! Polar is a secret weapon for hitmans to use for their mass targets. Kill'em by annoyance and horrible lyrics.
Huh.. Guess its a premonition how polar wanted to be real to kill us all
She has so many closet changes I don’t even know which shirt it is
Ah yes... Five minutes crafts
“I’ve always believed that kids can spot a phony from a mile away.” -Fred Rogers.
Wise words from a wise man.
Honestly even Polar's character and "lore" aren't even that bad, if Polar actually embodied the concept of a humble down to earth girl who just wanted to sing and dance. If you want proof look at Tokino Sora, a high-school girl who wanted to be an idol. Want to know why Sora is popular and not Polar it' s because Sora was a high school girl who convinced her best friend to rig her a 3d model and was a 2view streamer who built her channel and a company off her dream and determination. Polar is a manufactured plastic shell designed by a board at 5 minute crafts who probably bought 250k subscribers when they made their channel to eak out add revenue and to sell to Zuckerberg.
I actually think Polar could of raked in more positive attention, if she was designed to be a scene kid, and sing grunge music. She has the right proportions, eye's and overall aesthetic to sort of pull of that dollar store scene kid look
but we all know corporate fucks are too scared to do that because they wanna be "marketable to the general public"
Even then, she'll still look like a pretentious TikTok e-girl instead.
She's a bootleg of miku and all the k/da girls
Don't think so
They could have at least made her a furry or something else to separate her from miku
I've said this again and again but I really do think the fact a lot of awfully rich people are currently trying to pick up that "futuristic cyberpunk aesthetic" is VERY ironic considering, y'know, the whole idea of cyberpunk is a dystopian corporate hellscape setting that's meant to read in very clear writing, "hey, eat the rich" albeit probably worded in a fancier more verbose way.
i think their trying to go for just a general futuristic aesthetic, like cybercore. or maybe they’re trying to do solarpunk instead but failing miserably
@@N30-LUCIF3R perhaps, but then again you have to consider a lot of people in the whole disgustingly rich scene aren't too knowledgeable in the nitty gritties of what aesthetic goes where unless it's suddenly booming with popularity. while I'd definitely see those as fitting better, cyberpunk has had a sudden skyrocket lately as it usually does.. Def see ur point tho.
I guess I'm mostly generalizing it down to where I'd usually categorize "ooh revolutionary technology" that actually does nothing/is nothing actually new and is just branded that way to be kicked into the pile of "this is (some of) the shit cyberpunk dystopias warned us about"
@@technonomiconrecords666 hm makes sense,
cyberpunk has been gaining more attraction. and considering that a lot of the people behind this shit are usually old guys who r tryna be hip with the kids they’d probably only know abt cyberpunk or other popular wide-spread aesthetics
We created the Torment Vortex from the popular sci-fi novel "Don't Create the Torment Vortex"
A fulfilling prophecy? Then again in those dystopias like Shadowrun, the corporate rule the world, so less ironic and more of a touche
Being an AI who wants to become real but is rejected by the world she wants to be part of feels like an irl villain origin story 😆
One of the very important things about the Vocaloid music is that, unlike Polar, there are individuals behind the Vocaloid songs, who put care and love into the songs, and wanted (through Hatsune Miku etc.) to send messages through the lyrics and music.
Polar on the other hand is solely managed by a company in Russia, who already is notorious for making fake, bad and cringe videos.
Polar and Hatsune Miku is so far from each other as something can be. This company, that makes Polars music has not put their time and love into Polars music. The Vocaloid producers on the other hand, connects with their audience through the Vocaloids.
Honestly, to me the reason I rejected Polar so quickly before even listening to any of her music is because the model is so horrifying and the character concept just doesn't look good, at all. And I think many people rejected her for the same reason.
A lot of people judge apperances of a character and if they like how the character looks, they get into the show, game, or wherever the character is from. It is the same reason why Miku herself has more fans than any of the other vocaloids that don't have avatars. For example, Cyber DIVA is another voice bank but unlike Miku, she doesn't have an avatar. Her voice bank is good and with the proper tuning it sounds very nice, however, people pick Miku over Cyber DIVA because of the avatar attached to Miku, it's just more pleseant to look at, making people want to make fancontent of that avatar, and fancontent is what runs a fanbase.
cyva does have an avatar it’s just like an edited stock image 😭 ur point still stands though
@@supermouse73 no yeah I know it’s like a stock image, when I said avatar I meant like a designed character kinda like Miku or the kagamine twins btw
@@thecoolernagisa1156 they had the audacity to give her TEAL HAIR
She looks like something a 9 year old made in a profile picture avatar generator on their phone
@@somerando2702 literally- istg she looks like if a cringy edgy mary sue OC from the 2010s was made into a 3d model
Polar wasn’t created by the company Meta. She is created by TheSoulPublishing Aka the 5 minutes crafts people.
@Oliver Garrett yeah your right like some bleached strawberries
@Oliver Garrett Or the fact that they clearly target children with brightly colour videos but then goes "Oops! I accidentally took off your skirt".
Fact: 5 minute crafts has caused multiple issues before such as bleached strawberries, microwaving metal and plastic, and more
THAT'S WHY SOME OF THE MUSIC VIDEOS
THE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE 5 MINUTE CRAFTS PEOPLE
@@adam.n-steve I think there was a video of them making something and it could burn kids of not careful enough
“Hidden talent bro, keep it hidden” GOT ME DEAD AS HELL
There' two things to consider when it comes to the worries you presented at the end of the video.
One, humans like a lot of things, there's so many of us that no matter how bad or mediocre something is, someone out there is going to genuinely enjoy it. For instance, weird foods and fetishes.
Two, whenever something is created into a field that already has pre-existing #1's 2's 3's etc, it's next to impossible for the new thing to fully overtake the old ones without either the old ones screwing up badly or the new thing being *so good* or innovative enough that people can't get enough of it.
With that said, worrying about Polar being the start of an industrialized idol apocalypse is like worrying about Birthday Cake Vodka replacing Beer as the most common alcohol. There's gonna be some fruity people out there that like the taste of false cake sweeteners distilled into a bottle of vodka that tastes like you're drinking disinfecting solvent mixed with splenda, but there's not a snowball's chance in hell it's going to replace Beer.
TL;DR Someone out there will always like something that others don't, but that alone is nowhere near enough power for something like Polar to take over as the norm.
My biggest problem with Polar is that she was clearly designed INTENTIONALLY to resemble Hatsune Miku. One of her outfits even has pigtails! Her hair color is also an EXACT match to Miku’s original Art. I could understand if it where a different shade of green or blue, but an exact match? That’s alittle suspicious.
And then theirs the fact that they claimed she was the first of her kind. Miku wasn’t even the first, Several came before even her so to say Polar was the first…
are you gonna cry because some cartoon characters hair was used? damn
@@novo8321"sum cartoon character!!!!" Hatsune Miku is not a fucking cartoon character. Inform yourself before you speak nonsense on the internet.
@@novo8321 theres crying over it and then theres infringing on intellectual property but alright
Plus she is realy ugly and basic at least have a fun design if your going to sell us shit
This is sad, Miku has an idea behind her design. Polar simply seems like something to please the eye, with nothing behind it
In a world where vocaloids, vtubers, and virtual bands exist, I was really bothererd at how they acted like they were the first to be a "virtual idol". They initially marketed her as an "AI singer" but it really didn't use as much AI as people hoped.
What they do better:
Vocaloid: better tech (Polar just has a regular person sing with an animated model)
Vtuber: better entertainment/personality
Virtual bands: better music
Vocaloid are more than just techs and animation they are instruments available to anyone with experience in music so you can technically make your own vocaloid songs and that's the bueaty of it
And now that Neuro-sama exists, there's _really_ no chance of anyone else laying a claim of primacy to an AI performing songs over the Internet.
even fifteen years ago we had gorillaz, virtual singers are nothing new
We already have artists like Perty and YAMEIIonline who are clearly vocaloid inspired, yet they work because they are clearly art focused with a team of people passionate for their music behind them, also the creators of both do not claim to have "invented digital artists" or "be the first of their kind" YAMEII was very clearly inspired to be a rap version of Miku with some of her lyrics even stating the software that she uses as a means to break the 4th wall (that software is Avanna btw)
And in case you had any doubts, another example of a virtual idol that did work is also the splatoon idols who also have their concerts with holograms
I think the mask is really dumb and cheap looking and it is painfully obvious that it's there to save time on animating the mouth rather than to fit their design. She looks like a Bratz doll and one of those bowling strike animations had a child that was thrown off a cliff and climbed straight out of the uncanny valley.
LMAO
Honestly the mask and her base design makes me feel almost like they were trying to replicate a mixture of hatsune miku and the outfits from POPSTAR Music video from KDA, which makes sense as they’re desperately trying to appeal to a younger audience who flocked to those things, except they don’t seem to know what truly drew people to Miku and KDA
@@roastingghosts1302 I think I saw a twitter post back when she was "first announced" that one of the backgrounds in Polar's MVs is a stolen one from KDA.
@@roastingghosts1302 yeah Akali i think was her name had a mask on during that video. but here's the thing., the Design on Akali's mask showed mouth movement.
which this girl. kinda lacks.
Yeah...the mask is definitely there so they dont have to animate the mouth.. They dont even bother changing it to fit her outfits... If they had gone all the way and paired the mask with some cool designs that fit, i couldve forgiven it. Like idk maybe hooded dark jacket... Raven wings if they wanna push on the scene look... Make the tips glow gold.. Make her eyes glow... Idk just something to at least make the mask not look like laziness
Something that i'd like to share is nintendo's virtual idols - the squid sisters and off the hook from splatoon.
they have made multiple live concerts with these characters and they are completekly fabricated. the difference between them and polar?
character and intent.
polar is an advert for the metaverse, designed for a general audience that you can hear in her songs and mdern fashion deisgned models. it's bland catering.
the idols in comparsion? the live concerts are a love letter to the splatoon fans, with th enovelty of seeing them perform as they would in game with unique deisgns (mind you, that's because they're squids, but nintendo does have a variety of games with amazing art direction.) and songs that work so well that the lyrics work and they're gibberish.
i don't know where to take this point further, but i like splatoon :)
There's also K.K. Slider from Animal Crossing
omg I didn't think I'd see splatoon here! there's also the deep cut concert soon but I can tell it will be amazing!!
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6:58 I love this segment
7:23 That got me!
Polar is just a mascot for the company and a way for them to peddle fake values and messages. The Internet highly values authenticity. Vocaloid’s authenticity comes from the creators and the community around it. Vtuber’s authenticity comes from the people behind the avatar and their community as well. Polar is manufactured.
To be honest I am glad she got flamed and kicked off the internet. They shouldn't start and expect people to love their stolen idea. She's literally a V-Tuber vocaloid/idol lol
IKR???
The funniest thing about multimillion companies trying to "connect with the youth" is that their characters get cancelled almost IMMEDIATELY
so in short you’re trying to gatekeep animated characters?? ok then, casual vocaloid fan here 💀
@@neokurel5000 Literally not what the comment said? The issue isn't that she's animated, the issue is that she lacks authenticity. VTubers are popular because the personalities behind them are fun and original. Especially with more fantastical concepts, the audience generally knows that it's not 100% real and part of the fun comes from the willing suspension of disbelief.
Polar is literally a shitty company's attempt at marketing to young audiences with a watered down Hatsune Miku. They deliberately marketed her as an AI (false) and acted as if the idea was a novelty (it's not) and likely manufactured her fame with bot accounts. Also her songs are kinda bad. Not because of the singing, I hope the voice behind her goes on to do better things, but most of the lyrics give off massive "how do you fellow kids?" energy.
@@ButterflyScarlet exactly, apparently animated characters are just hatsune Miku, like the last part of what you said proves my point 💀
8:34 "Would a corporation go that far?"
Yes.
Time and time again.
One year later, I find this video, and realize I had COMPLETELY forgotten that Polar was ever a thing. With the way everyone was talking about her back then, it's no surprise she didn't last.
The end of this video with the "a worrying trend" bit is kind of funny at the moment though as there has been no news about Polar or any new metaverse "idols" and little to no people are even talking about it anoymore. It hasn't been that long since Polar gained attention though, so it is possible that, in another year or so we'll start to see more of them, but at the moment I doubt that'll happen.
Wow, lots of people here all of a sudden. That's crazy. Just to clear the air about something that the top comment mentioned, Polar was created by Five Minute Crafts, but the reason I mention Meta throughout the video is because well, she is being marketed as a "metaverse idol". I didn't make that clear enough though, so that's my bad. I'm glad there's a lot of discussion in the comments, thank you guys for watching.
Dunno what would be worse tho
Greetings
UNDERRATED.
I expected you to have way more subscribers tbh you deserve them
I thought you had thousands of subs hh, love ur editing btw :D
9:40
You see, this... *This* is exactly why these synthetic idols will never become popular. Because they are created and carefully calculated by companies with so much data on people. They use this data to try and become as inoffensive as possible, which is exactly what causes their mediocrity. Not a lack of skill or talent, but rather the fear of being disliked. Polar is so commonly negatively received because her words are so filtered that they lack any sort of emotion or soul. She feels devoid of passion. To create something that people might love, you also have to be willing to create something that people might hate.
TL;DR: Polar bad because her company tries to reduce us to statistics and algorithms. When you try to create something that *everybody* likes, you create something that *nobody* likes
“The opposite of love is not hate, but indifference.”
Love and hate are two sides of the same coin - they mean that you _care_ .
@@itsthesola10 Yes!! That is a great addition to comment
To add to this, some of the biggest names in virtual idols and corporate vtubing got into it almost completely by accident.
Hololive? Started as a promo for Cover's products with some people doing demos.
Kizuna Ai? Also started out with software demos, also quickly blew out of control.
Hatsune Miku? Mascot. For a voice bank.
Not offensive lol There was literrally a metaverse type rapper who got cancelled for saying the n word because the team behind him where all white blokes
She's the polar opposite of everything I like.
For me the major reason why Polar isnt really all that accepted is because everything about her just oozes out the word "generic" from her design to even her over all back story.
Lets do some comparisons. First Polar as a fully realized ai virtual youtuber/influencer. Best comparison would be Kizuna AI. They have the same backstory in where both are said to be AI. And yes Kizuna was not only accepted but was loved and before went on hiatus was sent off with a massive bang of a concert.
What about as a full AI singer? Vocaloid has her beat with just Hatsune Miku alone. With yearly massive concerts to her name while Polar just has a few songs.
What about half AI and half human? Hololive has already done it. Best comlarison for english would be Mori Calliope who has now several albums and even already had her own major solo concert.
What ever Polar tries to be it has already been done far better. Her design is generic sexy girl. Her story is generic i want to meet all of you as i am just a ai. Even her songs are generic. Her entire personality is the very deffinition of generic. If you look at the three girls that I compared to her just from a glance hell just seeing their shadow is enough to know who they are.
Kizuna Ai with her ribbon that looks like small bunny ears. Hatsune Miku with her super long twin tails and Mori Calliope with her long and wide hair and reapers veil. Clear distinguishing features. But Polar? She has no distinguishing features to speak of aside from her mask. And if we are looking at her shadow she can easily be mistaken for any game npc. There is nothing to latch onto, nothing make her stand out. They relied so much on her being an AI or just a computer hoping that was good enough only to fail in everything else.
Companies have already created popstars before, KDA from League is a good example. I see no issue if its like KDA though, and its an obvious passion project with people who truly care about it. Like KDA is like any disney movie, and Polar is like The Emoji movie, they are both made by big companies, but the heart and passion is what makes them so different
The great thing I can see (and already have) KDA in r34.
I refuse to see Polar in r34
@@WingMaster562 This man somehow managed to make pron related to this
@@WingMaster562 no exceptions… but also not as much as it’s such a nothing character this polar
@@st4rdyy plz re-read the rule 34 again
@@fltfathin umm it was I think everything that exists, has pron of it?
I feel horrible for the voice actor-she has a surprisingly good voice, yet she was given the most crappy model, and design in the history’s of hatsuna Miku copycats
Edit: parental figure acquire the iPhone I am the f a m e
Edit x2: Wth does this have 1000 likes 👁🫦👁
Honestly, the character just needs a few tweaks. Rewrite the lore and give her a new model, and she'd probably be fine. If they hadn't acted like this is the first time it's been done, I feel like the reaction would have been a lot less visceral. As she is, the model's just kind of a generic scene kid's Vocaloid OC.
@@tieflingrogue agreed. As basic as it is, meta verse singers are not the worst thing they have produced. They should have let her climb her way up, which she could have Probably done, and made an original character design. But clearly, they did not try putting in effort at all, as they where to lazy to even animate a mouth.
Agreed! The hate comments on her music are really hurtful and it isn’t the singer who is at fault. I don’t think Polar is great by any means, but I don’t agree with the hate the singer has been getting for her music.
@@gingercat1028 Agreed! The amount of hate she’s getting is not fully deserved-it’s mostly because of the company that made her. At the same time, the company that made her also has some…flaws. I think she could have become popular on her own, especially if the 5 minute crafts people never showed they made her…though it Probaly would have gotten out eventually
Is she really that good of a singer though? I mean she could be, but I can't really tell with the autotune/computer editing covering up anything that might be wrong with her singing.
So, I've got a few things to note about why she landed so flat.
-The Metaverse is already a very contentious thing. Many people online are not really happy with the idea, me included. Tying her to the Metaverse just makes it sound like a poor attempt to market using what they think is "the future."
-Marketing done around Polar put her on this pedestal, being this "cool new thing." Wow, an artist who "exists," but isn't really how she portrays herself online? News flash, people have been making music and media behind personas for eons. "Oh, but she does it with a 3D model, showing herself without showing herself -" people have still been doing that before her. Agencies such as Nijisanji and Hololive have had various full-on concerts from their groups of VTuber talents. Hell, there have been concerts made with characters who flat-out *don't* exist - Hatsune Miku and other Vocaloids come to mind, but Nintendo's hosted real-life concerts involving some of their video game characters. I hear there's one coming up featuring characters from Splatoon and KK Slider. Polar's whole gimmick, this whole idea of her being this "new" thing is a sham. She isn't "new," this is practically old news.
-Her design isn't doing itself any favors. Its close resemblance to Hatsune Miku gives the impression that they're trying to basically copy her and what she did for Vocaloid software. However, Miku was something that happened naturally, as talented artists picked her up and continued to further develop songs and skills with the software, whereas Polar (and the rest of the Metaverse) is being shoved upon us. That's not to mention the mask, which was clearly made to cut corners, allowing the creators to skip mouth animation.
0:30 I wheezed so hard at this Intro 💀
The thing is- Miku and the other vocaloids are simply visual representations of their voices. Polar was introduced as an her character and identity, not as a tool that happens to have a design. Shes just supposed to be an appeal to teenagers, not a musical tool that also has a cute design. That's why I think she's disliked, but the vocaloids are liked.
For vocaloid a lot of it also has to do with the creativity. Yes originally the character designs were simply just that, a way to appeal and sell the voicebanks but overtime the characters started to take a life of their own and companies like Crypton embraced it once Miku took off to the mainstream.
Heck, Crypton endorses fans to be creative which is another reason Miku and the others made it. The characters are essentially blank canvases for people to interpret and create with which many people like.
Polar on the other hand, not so much. Preprogrammed personally which feels super generic and a bit stereotypical, oddly similar looks to an already existing icon, annoying Metaverse stuff that people do not want, and not to mention the people behind her are pretty much the generic content farm of CZcams (5 Minute Crafts) which doesn’t look good when you’re trying to appeal “with the kids”
Sorry if this comment came off a little harsh but I wholly understand what you’re going at.
can they please at least give polar emotions? you'd think that with a big ass budget like that they'd be able to make her face actually move. unless her being a lifeless, dull and boring puppet is what they're going for
the fact that a Project Diva PSP game has more emotions on Mikus face than Polars is shocking, honestly.
when i first heard of polar, i was like "who?" and i was suspicious of the people behind her using bot followers and i just hate hate hate her
Perty better
Polar is basically hatsune miku but if she was a basic stereotype of Gen Z teens made in 5 minutes
Metaverse: "Hi Polar!"
The Internet: "Bye Polar!"
Ah yes *"Bipolar"*
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you deserve more subscribers with the amount of effort you put into this video!
The model for Polar looks like a monster high doll. One of those things that makes you swear toys have as much to do with body dismorphia as any individual on the street
She can never outdo Hatsune Miku.😒
Miku is far more impacted and an icon
nothing has, and will never outdo miku
If there is gonna be more of the metaverse singers then I would like to see a whole metaverse vs vocaloid competition or even movie going on like miku beating polar in just 1 song as polar tried singing like 3 songs and miku beat her to it lol
thats not gonna happen outside of memes and stuff. most virtual singers don’t use the “metaverse” branding and are completely seperate from vocaloids.
How did you upload a gif as your profile picture?
Imagine gorillaz beating the fuck out of polar, truly the battle of all time.
you have brain rot jesus christ
As someone born on August 16th, Polar was a ‘great’ early birthday present.
Suscribed! Very nice humour and good quality even for your first ever video! Your channel is very promissing!
The design just feels like it’s trying to ride of the coattails of Miku. It lacks any of the character Miku’s design holds. If I’m able to not be immediately off putted by Miku as someone who doesn’t really know much about vocaloid, then there’s one thing that’s being done right. But Polar’s just screams to me cheap produced minimalist corporate.
It’s kind of ironic; Polar looks like she’s trying to look human but miserably fails at feeling like one. Miku doesn’t exactly try to look human, per se. There are aspects of her design that veer onto the robotic spectrum of designs. The 01 on her shoulder, her accessories, the way her sleeves look like sheets of metal, etc. And yes, Miku did not strike me as human. Rather, she struck me as having character to her, passion behind her, and from what little I’ve seen from the vocaloid community, passion for her. Polar fails at all of that.
Polar is soulless yet tries to trick you into thinking she isn’t. Miku doesn’t trick you in the slightest; and had soul and passion put into her by her creators and the community.
Polar lies, Miku doesn’t.
(Also, that animation is just so stiff. It doesn’t even fit the music, but at least it fits the character)
polor is just another money grab for facebook, also they had the audacity to copy miku and thought they could get away with it
Wait they stole Miku's arm marking too?
I've always really loved Miku's avatar, she really does encapsulate that sort of super early digital feel, with all those early synths and such. The same sorts of vibes that like, the Nintendo DS menu aesthetics give me and shit, I don't know the proper name for it. That super sterile white background with bright and soft colors and abstract, digital shapes and shit, that sorta thing. She really represents what she IS, an instrument.
I’d like to add: personally, my biggest problem with Polar is her design, or rather a lack thereof.
Miku has her easily recognizable hairstyle, sleeves, and skirt. No matter how much the other aspects of her design may change, those basic elements are always there. The silhouette is still Miku.
Polar, on the other hand, has no consistencies other than mask, hair color, and skin color. She has no trademark. Her design completely changes so often that her silhouettes would look like completely different characters. There is *nothing* memorable about her to the point where Meta can change everything and still call her polar.
That’s because Miku’s design is inspired directly from the Yamaha DX7 synthesizer.
Metaverse singer made by 5 minute crafts acting like virtual singers are a brand new thing when really it isn’t.
Look at the Gorillaz and vocaloids they were here way before the metaverse.
Though with polar I can’t understand her too much he’ll vocaloid had voice synthesizers to be robotic and I can understand them.
Also splatoon idols
amazing video, i was surprised to see ur sub count!! great work n keep it up, here at 1.48k
i knew polar was gonna flop quick.
There's already Vocaloids and Hololive that do the exact same thing.
Vocaloid grants you freedom and the ability to use a virtual singer or two or more.
Hololive is technically virtual but behind it is real people like us with their own backgrounds.
Since Poor-lar came out, im so entertained by all the hate/critic/reaction videos about her.
At least she’s useful for something
At least the jokes are funny
they entertain me so much
Say what you want, you can't say she isn't polarising
7:07 HIS PFP IS SUNNY FROM OMORI
Great video from a new channel! I'm 100% subbed
it was a gross and uncanny cash grab, I felt like my intelligence was insulted by them trying to push that thing
IKR. Polar is worse than Pensuke! At least Pensuke’s comic (A comic in my CZcams channel) is a passion project.
studio killers is a good example of a virtual-based music group that actually takes advantage of the medium.
This is a supremely well edited and produced video. Welcome to the favourites playlist.
At this point Zuckerberg should have just made a Vocaloid 6 voicebank. That would have made more money than polar would and ppl wouldn't have been mad at it.
lowkey some of her song is kinda good , but once u read the lyric , you be like "thank god the beat is quite catchy"
cause the beat is usually stolen
“Holo dancing know that your acting really dumb an knows me better than I do” the lyrics are just a word salad
As you can see in the vid, Hatsune Miku's movement is SO GRAND like compare that to every mvs of Polar like, WATDAFAQ IS DAT MOVEMENT? Yeah right "Innovation" can't even properly animate her as "real" human. Its already 2022, Japan is way ahead of you "METAVERSE"
Bro I’ve seen fan models better than polar
@@Floofel. bro a model I made using goddamn Vroid in like an hour moves and looks better than her lmao
bratz ahh flop model
@@Floofel. i've seen vrchat bottle model better than that
me who hasn't touched social media besides CZcams and discord: im missing where this is my problem
For your first video this was amazing and wish you luck on the future of this channel
Polar reminds me of that phase everyone had in like 3rd grade.
Also like wth, your commentary was well thought-out, well edited, enjoyable, and split things up in a way that made the video feel shorter (in a good way), you are underated my guy
To be honest she feels a lot like an industry plant in a really bad way.
Discount Hatsune Miku, cmon they resemble eachother
I swear, the main shtick of the "metaverse" essentially boils down to recreating things that have already existed. In a world where Miku, Gorillaz, KDA, Kizuna AI (and other vtubers), and the Nintendo Splatoon singers, how is she new, much less a step up from what we already have?
5:30 here if you dont want to wait a lot until he mention the goddess Miku-san💙
With vocaloid, humans are making the music.. ones with stories, sometimes they're fictional stories about princesses or personal and about mental illnesses that many can relate to, vocaloids songs feel human in that way.. but polar can only be used by a company and she only makes songs about GenZ.. welp
This is an industry with a total of two names to it. Dethklok and Vocaloids. Two very different generations of virtual bands and virtual celebrities.
I think this isn’t a bad idea. Let a new generation experience this sorta thing. But they need to make it as memorable as Miku or Dethklok are.
Metalocalypse what a great show
The differences between Polar and Miku don't just stop with "one is also a useful program and the other isn't".
Miku (as in the complete package of model, animation, and voice) is meticulously kept fully animated, expressive, and reactive to promote an illusion of life. They've gone so far to keep the illusion of life going that they had to build live mocap systems and voice modulators so she could interact with other vocaloids and the crowd between songs, live on stage. That same technology powered the first generation of vTubers, "MikuMikuDance".
Polar is borderline frozen in place 99% of the time, they went so far out of their way NOT to animate anything about her that her mouth is just a waveform on a mask that doesn't even wiggle when she "talks" and her hair is done up specifically so it doesn't move at all. She fails to do the bare minimum to establish an illusion of life. She's just a doll posing dramatically with music playing in the background.
also polar’s songs just feel meaningless, the whole reason I’m in Vocaloid is due to songs that speak to me. The Lost One’s weeping helped me when I was in a tough spot due to the pressures of school and other producers tackle real issues in their music. Polar will never be able to speak to real issues with how over “influencer” she is. Even if she does her whole being feels so impersonal.
For Vocaloid you can interact with producers, watch them grow and (sometimes) leave the Vocaloid scene and make it big like Kenshi Yonezu or Ayase from YOASOBI.
i love how zuckie thought meta would absolutely pop off, yet failed to account for his entire target audience, gen z
Honestly, if they gave her the same writing treatment as story characters, then she would’ve felt more alive and far more interesting. Giving more personalized songs to her that has emotions behind it. This is why songs in tv shows are so memorable (for the most part), they’re sang with the purpose to tell a story of a specific character. Thus feeling more impactful and emotional. My opinion thi
If you keep up this banger content I'll gladly remain a subscriber.
I think the thing I hate about Polar is that they basically just want like a digital Doja Cat without putting in any effort.
And she’s going to fail catastrophically because unlike other digital artists like Gorillaz she has nothing that makes her unique other than being the “first metaverse Pop star”
And unlike Yamaha and Crypton Future Media’s Vocaloid Softwares or Ayema/Ayame’s UTAU Softwares, we’re not gonna really have a say in how Polar evolves. She’s gonna evolve at 5 Minute Craft’s pace and demands, meaning she’s going to suck.
She’s a dry, unoriginal digital copy of every other pop star out there right now but with none of the personality of them.
Edit: Also, an anime movie did a better god damn job of showing a metaverse pop star than Polar. Belle, released last year (the English version released this year) has a girl who is essentially the same as Polar. A real life girl singing in the metaverse, called U in the move. The big difference? Suzu, (Called Belle in the U program) can fucking sing. And she sings well. So well that one of the main subplots is how popular she becomes and how she struggles with her anxiety over this sudden attention.
isn't the metaverse just a worse VRchat? you have characters you pretend to be and make places in the virtual world, isn't that the whole point of VRchat
Again I've said this in other comments but SERIOUSLY, the metaverse really seems like a corporate conglomerate thing led by rich assholes who want to escape into a virtual place where they can just ignore the amount of damage they do to the world and those they harm.
Its a Corporate VR Chat, which means no character expression whatsoever, and apparently designed for virtual work.
@@exist4046 this changed my pov
litteraly all of the clips shown of her just look EXACTLY like vocaloid 3d animations ive seen
the crappy MMD video's have more soul than this,
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@@ghoulchan7525 SO FREAKING TRUE!!!
I heard of that article about live concerts and my first reaction was that she is just a worse version clone of Hatsune. I think it's also important not to overlook Hatsune's level of market infiltration. She is very popular and I think anyone who likes her will see the uncanny valley with polar. They may have been able to do a better job had the made the character more unique but they probably purposefully tried to make her a cheap knockoff to appeal to parents who will only passively see the resemblance and not care enough when putting on a "green hair virtual singer" video the kids are asking for.
Banger video, excited for more
YOU ARE TO UNDERRATED
Despite the colourfull hair, her character design still seems rather bland and overall very forgetable.
her style looks so generic, like a cash-grab
I think the thing that instantly turned people off Polar was the clear view botting. Like when the Reuters article was posted pretty much everyone from both the Vtuber and Vocaloid communities asked around to see if anyone had ever even heard of her and no one had. Everyone instantly knew that those 500k subs and 1.6 million TikTok followers only existed on Meta's servers.
Vtubers appeal to people because it lets the performer be their true self without inhibition, or alternatively adopt a completely different identity and play into it. While the model is cool and all, you're ultimately their to for the personality of the individual behind it. With Vocaloids it's basically the opposite. There isn't one person that makes the character, but rather the community. Miku's voice existed by the community, through fan art and songs, created the true sense of the character.
With Polar it's just them telling us that she's this relatable character and her singing. That's it. It goes beyond being a faceless artist, it feels souless.
i think one of the things that really irks me about polar aside from her plainness is that they’re marketing her as if she’s some groundbreaking technology. the article i discovered polar from said, word-for-word, that “polar is breaking the barrier down” (or.. something like that?)
like virtual idols have been around since the early 2007s, they’re still gaining popularity. i know they wanted to jump on the bandwagon of virtual idol fame but it’s just.. terrible..
i mean if you look at any other virtual idol, you know they’ve got some sort of quality that makes them unique (think: hatsune miku, gorillaz, any splatoon idol) while polar is just basic
As a lot of people in the comments have mentioned, I don't think I would have had a problem with her had she been just marketed as something like a vtuber or just a virtual based talent (Like the kpop artist Apoki has done very well). I don't find her model a total eyesore, sure it could use some work but as you mention in the video, usually these are used merely as vessels to add a personality to. The main problem is that lack of authenticity, the fact that it feels like the company did the wrong market research and totally disregarded any previous and current forays into the market (vocaloid as a genre, vtubers as a sub culture, the Gorillaz someone on twitter pointed out when this first came to public attention) which causes the whole project to feel cold, lifeless and having a lack of that authenticity that we expect from these sorts of projects. Of course with vocaloid the authenticity is more shaped by vocal synth fans and not so much the companies who create them (just a part of fandom culture you come to find out since these voice banks have no personality and usually the companies leave it to the fanbase and creatorbase to do the advertising). Polar quite honestly could have possibly done well as a vtuber, as long as corporate entities on top let her have the breathing room to have a personality that wasn't like how the tiktok fyp looks like when you open the app for the first time. I could go more into the specifics on this but I have rambled enough, but I am glad you touched on vocaloid and vocal synths past just "oh haha miku." and gave a brief mention on how there is a whole market for that sort of concept.
I’m really just to understand who was apart of the design process? Her body is super disproportionate that I feel like-no actually I know that shi was created like that to appeal the male gaze...just look at it.
Her design is even worse when you realise that she has no noteworthy features. Her hair and clothes change so much that they don't leave an impression on you, and her mask makes it impossible to guess her emotions. It's impossible to redesign her without changing her completely.
I think her entire appearance is to encapsulate what non zoomers see zoomers as. Its everything that's trendy on the internet, without any thought or care behind it. A bunch of old business folk watched a bunch of viral TikTok and celebrity trends within the music and fashion industry and just mixed them all together to make Polar. Polar has it all, the unnatural hair color, poppy/skimpy outfits, bold makeup, generic pop music, and lazy TikTok dances. The stuff that makes quick views, which in turn, makes quick money. No passion or care behind it.
Absolutely, her design makes me kind of uncomfortable, i also dont like the amount of blush on her face along with the odd proportions, it also throws off the colours sm. Her with her dances too, its like those uncomfortable tiktoks.
Its just such forgettable, cookiecutter design, especially when it copies from already successful media and characters as well
@@pogpogpurinn the blush is there for a reason tho. she’s blushing because she’s embarrassed to be a part of the metaverse
@@mengelemaestro89 she’s blushing so much that she acquired a rash!
she also straight up insults vocaloid on tiktok
Her failure can be noted by how she only has four entries on the green site, one of them just being an alternate version of one of the pieces
I'm just gonna go on a lil tangent about what could be improved in Polar's design:
For the hair, she could have light purple or night sky blue lightened up, with pastel green and pink highlights like aurora borealis, plus glitters. Could float in a half up half down hairstyle.
Clothing wise, of course it would change, but since her name is Polar, her main outfit could be a white fur jacket, purple fur trimmed boots with a small heel, icy blue sleeveless crop with a neck, and maybe a purple skirt (again, fur trim).
Plus instead of the mouth being a screen, the eyes could be a screen (yeah, unoriginal, I know, but there's so much potential with that kinda thing. More than with soundwaves, anyway)
And this is less appearance but more for fun she could have two ice foxes named North and South.
These are just my ideas, though.
You should have designed Polar instead because your ideas are 50000 times better but then that talent would go to garbage so NVM.
when you can tolerate weird Vocaloid music and you can't tolerate Polar music, then there is something wrong with Polar.
0:35 made me think a polar coming back a villain after everyone demolished her 😂😂
Im frankly impressed by the production quality of this video, especially the mic quality.