AIRR PIPELINE | Aviation Rescue Swimmer School
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- The second step in the AIRR pipeline is Aviation Rescue Swimmer School in Pensacola, Florida. Everyone trying to become a aviation rescue swimmer in the US Navy you must go through this 5 week course. We will break down what you can expect going to aircrew ARSS. ARSS is part of Naval Aviation School Command better known as NASC. At this school you will learn the basics of how to take a survivor from the water or land, and into a helicopter.
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Went through SAR School in 1980. Pensacola, Fl. Started with 22 guys, only 8 of us graduated. Most of the losses were during hell week, sharks and daisy’s, and intentionally being held underwater by the instructors until you passed-out from drowning. Once limp, a Corpsman was poolside to revive you. Most guys weren’t interested in the possibility of being drowned again, so they rang the bell and DOR’d. Graduated SAR school and next stop was SERE school. First command was NAS Patuxent River, MD. Air Ops SAR jumping from Vietnam era (complete with bullet hole patches throughout the fuselage) HH-46A Sea Knight helicopter. Most interesting rescue was Air Florida Flight 90 salvage effort in January 1982. Fun job!! Highly challenging, yet quite satisfying. You get a great deal of respect from the Naval Aviators you pluck from the water. Cool channel and good stuff.
I graduated Aircrew school in the summer of 1990 and had already volunteered to be a rescue swimmer while at MEPS. I was also scheduled to go to AO A school after Pensacola. So during aircrew school one of my 3 instructors was an AO. So he kept telling me all this cool stuff like "Oh man, you're gonna love being in a P-3C squadron. You'll never be on a ship, you'll live off base in your own house/apt, etc. etc.". But then he'd say "Oh wait, you're going on to rescue swimmer school? Then forget everything I said about P-3C's, you'll be on a ship in a flight suit covered in grease. etc. etc.". He also told me that for P-3 duty that the only home bases there were in the world were Hawaii, California, Florida & Maine. Pretty damn good choices IMO, never being on a ship - even better.
So immediately upon graduation of aircrew school they make me the class leader of RSS as I was the only E-3. Instructor told me "You have the class in PT gear & muster at the school in 1 hour. We get down there and they have us sit in these aluminum bleachers outside and the guy says "Where's my class leader? Get up here and pass out these forms.". As I start passing the forms out some guy raises his hand & says "What if you don't want to be here right now?". Instructor says ok, who all doesn't want to be here? I had to pause passing out the forms to raise my hand. I DOR'd, went on to AO school, then was class honorman during FASOTRAGRULANT in JAX after 9 mos so I get first choice of where I want to be stationed. I pick NAS Brunswick, ME so that I can continue to snowboard. The best part is that P-3 duty counts as sea duty. My boss retired as a Master Chief with 30 years and never stepped foot on a ship. Just kept rotating between P-3 squadrons & shore duty.
Once they showed my aircrew class the documentary "P-3 ORION: GUARDIAN OF THE SEA" I knew that was for me. I wouldn't have been cut out to be a RS. But I respect the hell out of those guys and while flying in the P-3 over the open ocean - it was a good feeling knowing that if something should happen & I ended up in the drink that the Navy's finest would be out there if possible to save my life. Cheers!
21 yrs Navy Tactical Helo Aircrewman and Search and Rescue Swimmer, Chief, retired became a Police Officer for 15 yrs then a High School teacher. Proud of the community, what it was and what it has become. No women in my days and the physical standards were different and SAR Swimmer school was run by a SEAL Master Chief and his crew so you can do the math. The drop and roll-back rate in those days was 70% in SAR Swim school alone. Thanks for your service.
Hey Jeff. Was one class ahead of you in swimmer school. Been out for over 6 years now, crazy. Was a rough ride, but I did my time, completed my enlistment (barely, lol), and I've made peace with myself. The aircrew community is not an easy place to thrive and enjoy yourself. Always felt like I was never good enough, and it was terrible for my self confidence and well being. Glad to see you're doing alright. Stay safe out there.
You should do an injury prevention video. How to train hard and stay injury free.
That is an awesome idea for a video! Standby video will be in the works.
It's also important to keep your head in the right place, and not letting all the bullshit get under your skin. Overnight was not authorized, but there were ways around. Some weekends, I'd just drive with no destination, sleep in my car, etc. You are your own enemy in this pipeline. If your thoughts get to you, you'll be the next one out. I feel that those escapes were absolutely vital for me to get through the pipeline.
I want to join the Navy, I am 23 years old so im pretty late to the whole scene but when i get my mind set to something it gets done. I really want to be like you, I'm not as perfect as a seal otherwise I'd try spec ops. I'm simply short, a small guy, should be for support. But this is where I think I find myself the most... Thank you so much for these videos they were very educational. I appreciate you, thank you so much for your service.
Best job I ever had.
Great info boss! Keep it up!
I’m taking a mock pst this Tuesday!
I ship out as a AIRR in September!!!!
Grats! How's the PST? Going to sign my contract this week, not sure whether 11 min 400 is quick or slow!
Jake Verts so personally I’ve done the PST a handful of times by myself.
I’ve never done the real pst yet but what’s crazy is that I got my contract to be an AIRR during the whole Corona epidemic.
What do you mean by 11min 400?
@@jaden6607 As I've been told, I'll go in this week to MEPS and select any rate, (hopefully AW will be available...hopeful thinking) and then attempt to pass the AIRR PST before shipping that way I can go in as AIRR. My recruiter told me that to be approved for AIRR you need to pass a handful of requirements, like the pull-ups, sit-up, etc. One of them is to swim 400m in less than 11 minutes and I haven't attempted that yet, so I was wondering how difficult that might be.
@@jaden6607 what is a mock pst ? the dry pst ?
@@icecreammanrocker360 it's 500m and if you haven't started swimming start now it is not easy unless you are good at competitive swimming
Great video, very educational.
DCAP BTLS!! That’s my jam lol
any swim drills or workouts to prepare for AIRR???
Is there ever a time during training where students swim without fins? Or are all exercises primary done with fins and snorkels on
Oh id LOVE to do rescue swimming. Been swimming since was baby love to rescue people esp pilots. Love to do course like this.
Leaving as an AIRR on March 15th 💪
hope you’re having fun lmao
You just sold me on underwater jiu jitsu! I do bjj in real life so it sounds like a blast lol
Hey Jeff, I just decided today to pursue a AIRR contract with the navy as a civilian. What’s your biggest piece of advice for me? I’ve swam informally my whole life and feel confident in the pool/ocean. I’d appreciate any advice. Thank you so much and love your videos!
updates?
I want to get this contract but my stamina in the water needs work. I’ve already gotten sworn in but this is the only job I’m seriously interested in.
Same exact exact boat, did u make it?
What's the running regimen like as far as far as mileage and pace? I come from a swimming background but I have a lot of room for improvement when it comes to running
Most of the runs are about 5 miles at about a 7:30 minute pace
I'm going to join in the near future for AIRR, and I was wondering what is a good goal times and counts to shoot for in the PST. I would like to stand the best chance I could getting in and even though the bare minimum 10-12 minutes I believe. What would be a decent time as a goal as well as for the rest of the tests? As well, are you limited to a certain stroke or can you do combat or freestyle? Nothing I have searched or read the rules dictates.
So the minimum for pull ups in the pst is 4 but in rescue swimmer school during pt test 3 you must be able to complete 8 proper pull ups in order to pass. I’d say set yourself up for success and be able to properly do well over the required minimums for the pst. And get really good at tricep push-ups as well
@@simonmorgan6123 Thanks man, I definitely need to tell my past self this tho, I’m already passed that part of training 💪🏼
What is some of the underwater evolution you do during training ?
In Fire Academy we called it "Hurry up and wait"
You listened😢.leaving august 17th AIRR
Also leaving the 17th for AIRR see you there lol
See both of yall there too lmao
see yall in great lakes
I’m gonna join when I finish high school I wish you guys well 💯 I know you got this and I hope to see you all in the future.
@@imsolittt8595 I made it through. practice holding your breath and run a lot
i guess it took me over 10 years after being out to think about this question and am wondering if its part of the pipeline at the school. What is the maximum weight of an object allowable when the weight is split up between the large and small end of the double rescue hook.
great question, but the max weight on the cable is 600 lbs. That's the hard limit. Also, the DRH isn't around any more, it's now the locking rescue hook, which doesn't have a small end.
So that others may live!
Are you the guy that hold the 15:03 3 mile record at the schoolhouse?
I’m a possible airr candidate , Thankyou for the tips brother ! 🤟
Do a video comparing USCG and USN Rescue Swimmers!
That's an awesome Idea. I might Have to contact my buddy and do something with him.
If you are in the airr program can you eventually try out for say the eod pipeline?
just choose one or the other. once you are in the navy it will be hard to switch.
What Collin said is accurate. Easier to do it before than after. As we say in the Navy "Choose your rate choose your fate"
I know a kid that was airr and went SO, tbh it’s not hard from what he said and he also said airr wasn’t that fun and that’s why he switched over
can you talk about SERE school as part of the pipeline?
unfortunately I can't. One of those things you just gotta do.
Make multiple copies of your graduation certificate and PG. 4 of your service record! AND, your Shellback certificate!
do u have to do an underwater 50 meter swim? i know seals do that. also speaking of seals do u work with them on missions whether training or real life?
Not going to comment on working with any particular group but I will say being a rescue swimmer is only part of your job. You’re part of an integrated helicopter crew. The pilot and co-pilot handle flying the aircraft and everything in the cockpit. The 2nd crewman (rescue swimmer) and the crew chief handle everything aft of the cockpit seats. Being a rescue swimmer is only a small part of the missions you’ll be involved in. There are the mundane missions of cargo (internal and external) transfers, personnel or “Pax” transfers. Mail runs, crew training flights, and post maintenance check flights. A lot of boring missions, but hey you’re able to get off a pitching rolling deck for awhile. On the other side of the coin there are some missions that are once in a life time deals. I’ve been hoisted down along with medical personnel to civilian cargo ships to take care of emergencies. You’re hundreds of miles to the nearest land and the only assets available. In that case your the relay between all the involved parties and assets. I have multiple open water rescues of both military and civilians. Those mission randomly come up but can never be planned for. Yes there are just as many missions that you’ll be involved in as part of the flight crew that are classified and not to be discussed. I was a rescue swimmer and crewchief for 13 years with just over 3,800 flight hours before accepting a naval officer commission. I still miss being a helicopter crewman. It’s one of the better jobs and one hell of a lot of fun.
@@bamboomaker1193 thanks for the info! really appreciate it
@@bamboomaker1193 good read. thank you.
What happens if you don’t pass ? Do you retake the whole curriculum or do you have to do a different career?
If you don't pass they will rerate you to some other job in the Navy.
Hi Jeff, I'm currently 23 years old with a Bachelor's degree. Would I be able to go to OCS before starting the AIRR pipeline?
No rescue swimmers cant be officersz
If you have your BA or BS, there are better options for OCS pipelines. I would recommend EOD or SO for officer pipelines.
I’ll I be accepted into airr if I had back disc surgery?
I don't know, but back problems are very prevalent within the community. I would recommend you don't. Helo's are horrible on your back.
How's it going Jeff! I plan on going to school while being a AIRR, will I have time to balance school and my career ?
Not in your first 6 years. Just being honest. I got out in 2014 and started working on my degree after I separated.
Wooooo hooooo
Do you have to go-to sere school?
yes
Yes you do
Just got contracted I leave may 26 to Chicago
How’d you make out?
Jul 27 for airr
July 13 here
@@aidenhovren7906 Goodluck, Ill prob end up seeing you in swimmer school or air school
Where are you guys from? Shipping July 13 as airr too
T Delo long island
T Delo San Diego
Would this be a good thing for me after the Army, currently I’m a medic but planning to switch branches
You cant switch branches ... should’ve been clear on what branch you really wanted to join in the beginning .. too late now
@@iancampain2885 You can very much switch branches
@@iancampain2885 u can switch, it’s called green to blue or blue to green. Prime example David goggins went from the navy seals to going into ranger school. Do some homework guy.
ICIC
Remember the first top gun movie....I flew rubber dog shit outta cargo plane...C-130 load master. Yes the training is hard and you also got to train with the Marines. And when you're sleeping at night you have muscles at cramp up in your body that you never thought existed after swimming all day and running all day and doing pull-ups and push-ups all day. You get paid to work out and then you go fly and you get flight pay and it's awesome and when you get out the Navy you can get a great job working with airplanes at a commercial airport and I got kicked in the face during the Helo dunker me what a black guy goes cuz somebody panicked and kick me in the face with their boot. You had to stay calm during his training in the water if you panic in the water you will not be successful.
Hold up the intro hard