ALMOST cEDH WITH KUROHITSUKI - STELLA LEE vs TYMNA|TANA vs VAROLZ vs MAGDA

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  • This week we're joined by Kurohituski to play some ALMOST cEDH. What do you think about playing cEDH with out the free spells or fast mana?
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Komentáře • 129

  • @nubnub8202
    @nubnub8202 Před 16 dny +42

    Having steamvents coming into play tapped and not paying for esper with it while at 39 life in izzet seemed very wrong.

  • @willmatson3103
    @willmatson3103 Před 16 dny +18

    Taking actions that ultimately got rid of the Drana + Linvala without the ability to capitalize on it immediately was just throwing the game to Magda imho.

  • @collint957
    @collint957 Před 16 dny +26

    Dylan gave Stella so many tries to not punt the game but he just kept doing it, what a great example on why not to get tunnel vision and play selfishly

  • @park9199
    @park9199 Před 17 dny +85

    Please do more of these mini-metas. Would love to see what this format looks like with more subtle rule changes.
    Like what would this look like without dockside? What would it be without rhystic study?

    • @TheGrifcannon22
      @TheGrifcannon22 Před 17 dny +5

      Heritage cEDH would be cool. (Only cards that were printed into Standard)

    • @TheMattmatic
      @TheMattmatic Před 16 dny

      I'd LOVE to see cEDH with the Conquest banlist.

  • @robertwatson4840
    @robertwatson4840 Před 16 dny +21

    I have to say, the best part of every episode is Dylan’s face when he says “where we play to win”.

  • @michaeldyrud7077
    @michaeldyrud7077 Před 17 dny +111

    Dryad Arbor doesn’t work with Varolz, but not due to Drana and Linvala. Varolz grants a Scavenge cost equal to its mana cost, but Dryad Arbor has no mana cost so it’s impossible to pay it

    • @samdalfthegray4495
      @samdalfthegray4495 Před 17 dny +8

      Am I crazy or isn't the mana value zero? So you just pay zero?

    • @michaeldyrud7077
      @michaeldyrud7077 Před 17 dny +32

      @@samdalfthegray4495 The mana value is zero, but there’s no mana cost, and that’s what Varolz looks for. It’s the same reason you can’t flashback Ancestral Visions with Snapcaster.

    • @carso360rocker8
      @carso360rocker8 Před 17 dny +2

      ​@samdalfthegray4495 Even then when a spell has 0 as its mana cost it has no mana cost. But since Dryad is a land also it does not even have 0 as a cost because you play it as land for turn

    • @michaeldyrud7077
      @michaeldyrud7077 Před 17 dny +8

      @@samdalfthegray4495 Memnite works as you’d think, since it does have a mana cost of zero

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 Před 16 dny +3

      If Varolz said "each creature card in your graveyard has scavenge {X}, where X is its mana value", then yes, creature cards with no mana cost would have scavenge {0}.
      As Varolz is written, though, the original comment is correct: Dryad Arbor has scavenge for an unpayable cost, so it can't be scavenged for that cost.

  • @ecclesiaandune687
    @ecclesiaandune687 Před 17 dny +39

    fun game, i feel like kurohitsuki kinda just handed the game to nate though removing the Drana and Linvala when they had no more gas to actually win when it was gone on their turn

    • @dinghoti
      @dinghoti Před 16 dny +3

      Also why not pay for the wandering? Right before untap step?

    • @nubnub8202
      @nubnub8202 Před 16 dny +8

      @@ecclesiaandune687 they played very poorly throughout that game.

  • @michaelatbarnett
    @michaelatbarnett Před 17 dny +5

    The background music is always so choice for these videos. A double-bass kick early into synthwave to close. Love it

  • @noahmurtha4036
    @noahmurtha4036 Před 16 dny +3

    I recently added Drana and Linvala to my sans blue list in cEDH and DAMN has it put in work. Stops Sisay, Stella, Kinnan, Thrasios, Magda, etc etc etc. it stops so many relevant commanders and cards that it’s won me multiple games

  • @SmoothBrainPlays
    @SmoothBrainPlays Před 17 dny +1

    Best part of my Sunday is watching your CEDH videos. You guys are awesome.

  • @user-kz1ve2ec7f
    @user-kz1ve2ec7f Před 16 dny +3

    Cam choosing the best life total.

  • @BadConAngel
    @BadConAngel Před 16 dny +3

    Damn getting rid of Drana and Linvala might not have been the play 🤣 but Kuro was stuck between a rock and a hard place.

  • @brawlerike1
    @brawlerike1 Před 17 dny

    This was super cool!

  • @Skrippy33
    @Skrippy33 Před 16 dny

    Super excited to see Kuro on!

  • @alexe5589
    @alexe5589 Před 17 dny +10

    CEDH ON PLAY TO WIN WOOOOOOO

  • @nicolofavara3565
    @nicolofavara3565 Před 16 dny +3

    Fun Fact: At a rate of 2 dmg per second it would have take the Hellkite approximately 127 years to kill Cam.
    Should we consider it a draw ? ahah

  • @Spirited_skiing
    @Spirited_skiing Před 16 dny

    This was fun!

  • @peruru84
    @peruru84 Před 17 dny +8

    I got my Gay to Win hoodie and I'm obsessed!

  • @AdmiralSnakbar77
    @AdmiralSnakbar77 Před 17 dny +7

    "No fast mana rocks or free spells." How do you say no RogSi players, without saying no RogSi players?

  • @MstrKipper
    @MstrKipper Před 16 dny

    Kuro's playmat is gorgeous!

  • @TheWyzman69
    @TheWyzman69 Před 13 dny

    I can't afford all the fast mana and free spells, so I love this and hope you could do more

  • @TheWaffleDad
    @TheWaffleDad Před 16 dny +2

    Still the best channel on CZcams 🤘

  • @kukitanuki4037
    @kukitanuki4037 Před 16 dny +7

    i just wanted to add that i really appreciate your gay to win merch and you guys as a channel, it means a lot

  • @kaiwilken5330
    @kaiwilken5330 Před 16 dny

    I would love for you to explore rule iterations like "no fast mana" further in a podcast. Thanks for all the entertainment!

  • @nonamenoface9487
    @nonamenoface9487 Před 17 dny +2

    It'll be dope if you guys did an episode with commanders picked in poles lol.

  • @diegoperezsommariva2509

    These restrictions made a great game! This is usually how I play with my friends but also without tutors.

  • @Googleflax
    @Googleflax Před 16 dny +1

    11:16 Why didn't Kuro pay the 2? He had 3 blue floating from the Gilded Lotus and only used 1 on the Suspend

  • @patrickdunlap7
    @patrickdunlap7 Před 17 dny +13

    Really liked this change-up with no fast mana. It would be cool to see other versions of these.

  • @jacenchrisbaker
    @jacenchrisbaker Před 16 dny

    I think experiments like this are always interesting. Finding a balance between high-power EDH and the competitive side is something I wish I saw more. I think the Spike Feeders do this well, but that's about all I've seen, though I think it only works well for them because they don't always run decks with Thoracle/Consult.

  • @jonnybirch2268
    @jonnybirch2268 Před 17 dny +2

    Yeah Magda!! Love that commander 😁😂

  • @wizzkid05
    @wizzkid05 Před 16 dny

    Hey guys! Any chance for next year's pride merch you can up the sizes? I'd love to buy one of the shirts but my shoulders make 2x's a bit iffy. Keep up the great content!

  • @vladahermansky710
    @vladahermansky710 Před 17 dny +4

    Anybody know where i can get that lotr playmat Kurohitsuki has thx

  • @artofeddie7608
    @artofeddie7608 Před 17 dny +1

    Love to see Magda! ❤

  • @reversalwizrd7651
    @reversalwizrd7651 Před 17 dny

    KURO!!!!!!!!!! Let’s gooooo

  • @nelsonmatos5948
    @nelsonmatos5948 Před 17 dny +4

    I freaking love this! No fast mana / free spells make the games so much more interesting

  • @GTIBROS
    @GTIBROS Před 16 dny

    Dylan looks mad blazed in the recaps lololol

  • @tkmoosey4436
    @tkmoosey4436 Před 16 dny

    Look at that snuggly little pup, I am dead

  • @Inspectornills
    @Inspectornills Před 16 dny

    I like that you guys are doing these decks without the really expensive stuff. Playing with Power used to have games where they did budget lists and I kinda miss that. I think playing with a budget is good for the community since it helps to get more people in the door to cEDH and also there are tournaments out there that don't allow proxies, so we have to start considering more budget-friendly builds that can win if a player doesn't have access to the really expensive good stuff.

  • @lostinthewoods2201
    @lostinthewoods2201 Před 14 dny

    Hi, anybody got a good source for high quality proxies?

  • @joshwilcox3319
    @joshwilcox3319 Před 9 dny

    Anyone know where I can find Kuro's playmat? Looks so sick

  • @AulaGeschrabbel
    @AulaGeschrabbel Před 16 dny +1

    Tbh, that's the perfect format from my point of view. I just dislike all those free spells in cedh.😊
    Thanks for doing this video❤

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy Před 17 dny

    Nice game ❤❤❤

  • @HansonMW3
    @HansonMW3 Před 11 dny

    Would love to see ruric thar in a pod like this

  • @patrykmilewski8711
    @patrykmilewski8711 Před 14 dny

    Is there any option to order playmat? Looks like sold out already on web page

  • @XxcrazycjxX
    @XxcrazycjxX Před 17 dny

    magda is such an amazing commander, i made a budget build with her and my friends hated it

  • @Dracke24
    @Dracke24 Před 13 dny

    I'd like to see an episode where you go one step further and play without infinite combos as well as no fast mana / free spells.

  • @bobthor9647
    @bobthor9647 Před 10 dny

    Is there a list of banned in Almost cEDH ? What about Elvish Spirit guide ?

  • @jeffscalise5927
    @jeffscalise5927 Před 16 dny

    What was the purpose of casting blades of velis vel?

  • @caseystanley4989
    @caseystanley4989 Před 16 dny

    Please feature the dog more often in the commentary!

  • @gameboard1
    @gameboard1 Před 16 dny

    What's the name of the song in the background?

  • @fluffylegend294
    @fluffylegend294 Před 16 dny

    LET’S GOOOO!! Seen and heard, I ask for Kuro and here it is (though I’m sure it was already in the works) 🥺 amazing! My 2 favorite channels together 😁🔥

  • @0wll
    @0wll Před 17 dny

    I would like to see an episode with rakdos the muscle as commander, i think he's overlooked, and maybe he's not the strongest, but it will surprise you how turbo he can be

  • @ashtonbabcock2656
    @ashtonbabcock2656 Před 13 dny

    Have you considered doing a video that's the opposite, where you take your casual decks and add in all the free spells, fast mana, super efficient removal and draw engines, but keep the overall strategy the same? Might be interesting!

  • @Rene9adeSU
    @Rene9adeSU Před 16 dny

    imagine someone slamming a Massacre Wurm after Cam made his "infinite" tokens. Man that would've been a fun way to go!

  • @harleymartinez7613
    @harleymartinez7613 Před 16 dny

    can someone explain how dylan used varolz ability to sac stella lee?

  • @tranced42
    @tranced42 Před 16 dny

    11:10 why arent they using the extra floating from the lotus to pay for archaic?

  • @carlsontravisp
    @carlsontravisp Před 16 dny

    What camera do you use to record this gameplay?

  • @telph3223
    @telph3223 Před 11 dny

    Is this a grassroots format? I'd love to see this format get popular. Is there a written ban list for what counts as fast mana and free spells?

  • @AnthonyWhitford
    @AnthonyWhitford Před 15 dny

    Why would he not pay for the wandering archaic trigger on suspend? He didn’t have another spell to cast

  • @treycuret
    @treycuret Před 16 dny

    VAROLZ
    Please clutch this up, Cam ❤

  • @nubnub8202
    @nubnub8202 Před 16 dny +8

    not paying the 2 for the Archiac trigger with TWO blue floating from the lotus + 3 other mana sources up... then they just let the 2 floating fizzle... these are some piss poor plays.

    • @brendans1983
      @brendans1983 Před 16 dny +1

      Haven't watched the game yet, but which Lotus gave the 2 blue mana?

    • @nubnub8202
      @nubnub8202 Před 16 dny +1

      @@brendans1983 they had a gilded lotus they tapped for 3 blue but only used 1

    • @brendans1983
      @brendans1983 Před 16 dny

      @@nubnub8202 just saw that, very strange.

  • @NickNicolay-ih4zi
    @NickNicolay-ih4zi Před 17 dny

    WOOOOOOOO!!!! MAGDA!!!!

  • @paulmcclain642
    @paulmcclain642 Před 17 dny

    Normally I’m not a fan of Magic variants (I don’t know why it’s just true). But this one is really cool. It’s a nice budget version of CEDH too because you don’t have to have the Mox Diamond, Mana crypt etc.

    • @alexe5589
      @alexe5589 Před 17 dny

      No need to worry about budget in CEDH since it’s a proxy friendly format!

  • @colinpatton1541
    @colinpatton1541 Před 17 dny

    VAROLZ!!!!!! HELL YEAH

  • @grinreaperoftrolls7528

    PUPPY!

  • @yannishoermann1939
    @yannishoermann1939 Před 17 dny +8

    This is exactly how my pod plays, no fast mana, no free spells. We also play with certain target bans (jeskas will, mana drain, rhystic study and fish, and dockside) and no hand tutors, and we agree it's the optimal casual experience 😂😂

    • @Nine-cw7xp
      @Nine-cw7xp Před 16 dny

      These are exactly my play group rules! If you want a fun 10-15 minute game where you race to get your protected combo off, definitely play cEDH.. but if you want a 45min-1.5 hour game of chess magic then play casual with these exact rules

  • @iclimbeverything2990
    @iclimbeverything2990 Před 16 dny

    Hey I think you guys should check out the new red assassin's Creed commander alexios Deimos of kosmos, he's basically slicer but you can run more protection

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton Před 16 dny

    11:20 i really need a judge to help clarify if you can cast a spell "in response?" to an opponent about to be leaving a phase? i was sure you have to have something to respond to which is if an ability triggers, a spell is cast, or if an opponent fully changes phases? i do know, however, that if it is "your turn" even in the end step you can just do stuff because it's still functionally your turn.

    • @Vraxark
      @Vraxark Před 16 dny +1

      Not a judge, but that was a valid play. When a player says something like "I pass my turn" they are actually proposing a shortcut through the rest of the phases of their turn while also passing priority. All other players must then go through priority while choosing to accept the shortcut or not. Any player other than the one who proposed the shortcut is allowed to stop the shorcut at any point before the proposed 'endpoint' to take a game action.

  • @devan9197
    @devan9197 Před 17 dny

    lmao raucous ruckus

  • @dathore
    @dathore Před 16 dny

    I feel like I missed something, why didn't Kuro pay the Wandering Archaic tax with the other 2 blue mana he had from his gilded lotus, since Suspend is only 1 mana and the lotus gives 3?

  • @Hyorinmaru93
    @Hyorinmaru93 Před 16 dny

    Its so sad that the Gay to Win Playmats are not available outside the US

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  Před 16 dny +1

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    • @Hyorinmaru93
      @Hyorinmaru93 Před 16 dny

      @@PlaytoWinMTG Thanks for the Info. Ordered right now

  • @haunakahzombie7899
    @haunakahzombie7899 Před 16 dny

    Concordant crossroads would have smacked

  • @hunterstrong3318
    @hunterstrong3318 Před 13 dny

    Ill admit lately ive been pushing my rograkh tymna voltron as hard as i can to see how close to competitive i can push voltron. The answer: not as bad as one would thing

  • @johnmark3977
    @johnmark3977 Před 16 dny

    @4:45 Cam could have targeted another player with chain of smog on final iteration of his infinte token combo. Idk, might have made a difference

  • @petaznava
    @petaznava Před 17 dny

    Guys, read the description, “gay” to win playmats.

  • @jeffreysmall1087
    @jeffreysmall1087 Před 17 dny

    Good game i like the no fast mana thing. Good job guys.

  • @joshuabowers6431
    @joshuabowers6431 Před 10 dny

    my lgs has a begginer commander league a mid cedh commander league and a full cedh league. ive been playing in the mid and the rules are no 0 drop mana rocks and you cant win untill turn 7

  • @magmortar182
    @magmortar182 Před 13 dny

    I think ive seen this game before, i guess i encounter too much chain of smoke combos lol

  • @blabik
    @blabik Před 16 dny

    Sethprobablyknownassaffronolive calls it Raccoon Theater. Imo that's the true name.

  • @TheNotSoMysteriousG
    @TheNotSoMysteriousG Před 16 dny

    Yeah, no fast mana, no free spells is how to play!

  • @austinroy-stewart1268
    @austinroy-stewart1268 Před 16 dny

    This pseudo format is fun. Somewhere in between high powered edh and cEDH. My Hogaak (and Grist) decks would be perfect here

  • @emmettdouke6657
    @emmettdouke6657 Před 16 dny +1

    With the two removals for the clock, would it of been better to target the roaming throne? Or did it matter by then? Cause the clock only works with an artifact dwarf in play also?

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  Před 16 dny

      If Nate finds another artifact dwarf he can still win if we don’t deal with clock. If we deal with clock, he can find all the artifact dwarves he wants cause we got rid of his 1 irreplaceable combo pieces

    • @tylercraig5633
      @tylercraig5633 Před 16 dny

      It also had Ward on it in case that mattered

    • @emmettdouke6657
      @emmettdouke6657 Před 15 dny

      ​@PlaytoWinMTG ah makes sense, after watching it again, the clown car put in alot of work to; magda has alot of resilience, I think most every game I've ever seen the clock hit it's over, so I've tried to tell myself to take out the artifact dwarf more then magda herself. With how many treasures he had though I can see how it forces you to answer the clock ⏰️ since he can just get another dwarf right away.. krosan grip comes to mind but idk for sure 😅

  • @TomHickey
    @TomHickey Před 17 dny

    Loved it. Perhaps leaving out fast mana but leaving in treasures isn't impactful enough ;)

  • @kodybrinkman9614
    @kodybrinkman9614 Před 17 dny

    skarragan hellkite is the strictly worse wincon in magda no? not sure if ill see it in the game but its in the deck showcase :p
    I just read the title, fuck

  • @jcprofit
    @jcprofit Před 17 dny

    Funny how no fast mana and no free spells makes people not want to play blue

  • @Shinimawastaken
    @Shinimawastaken Před 17 dny

    Should make this a permanent format this was awesome

  • @kellyperry5009
    @kellyperry5009 Před 17 dny +3

    Not a fan of this weird offshoot. I prefer full cedh or super casual games. This seems like a weird budget version. O well, still the best part of Sunday morning !! #beginnnnnn

  • @Logic-cg7qy
    @Logic-cg7qy Před 16 dny +2

    cEDH without free spells and fast mana? Oh, you mean EDH then? Also, it's called Rakdos Theatre, as my friend pronounces it.

  • @TsavMemorai
    @TsavMemorai Před 17 dny +1

    IMO as a rough guideline for power levels, if you aren't playing fast mana I think your deck is a 9/10 at best, which is the top end of high powered EDH so maybe that's what this is? Almost cEDH makes me think you have like half the fast mana rocks, like you have mana crypt but not LED or some such.
    Maybe would be interesting to explore commander without any cards over $200 since that excludes a lot of those types of cards which are largely unavailable for most players.

  • @ThePharmagod
    @ThePharmagod Před 16 dny

    Stella should have copied twisted fealthy on the stack before wanderer resolves and just go infinite........................

  • @dinghoti
    @dinghoti Před 16 dny

    A lil degen casual ;)

  • @FirewalllDivision
    @FirewalllDivision Před 3 dny

    EW Casual xD

  • @sean8486
    @sean8486 Před 16 dny

    Why didnt he copy the twisted fealty with the wandering archaic copy on the stack? That would've been ggs

    • @lonewolfk9
      @lonewolfk9 Před 16 dny +1

      Drana and Linvala

    • @sean8486
      @sean8486 Před 16 dny

      @lonewolfk9 ahhhh yeah yeah that was definitely there 😅

  • @elliotbanbury6442
    @elliotbanbury6442 Před 17 dny +1

    Why not play budget cedh???? It’s much more accessible! Lik no cards above 5 dollars, or total deck price 100 dollars or less. Or however you wanna do it

    • @dgreenlonghorn1
      @dgreenlonghorn1 Před 16 dny +1

      Cuz budget and cEDH don’t mix.
      Any “budget” deck can never compete with actual cEDH decks.
      Also, almost nobody plays “budget” cEDH since cEDH is proxy friendly.

    • @elliotbanbury6442
      @elliotbanbury6442 Před 11 dny

      @@dgreenlonghorn1 they can try :) they played no fast mana or free spells this time.

    • @dgreenlonghorn1
      @dgreenlonghorn1 Před 11 dny

      @@elliotbanbury6442 and the video got less views than normally it seems

    • @elliotbanbury6442
      @elliotbanbury6442 Před 11 dny

      @@dgreenlonghorn1 you’re lame

  • @Nine-cw7xp
    @Nine-cw7xp Před 16 dny

    Serious question, are you two gay?

  • @axismt
    @axismt Před 14 dny

    Questionable plays from Stella Lee player.

  • @joshhorne4239
    @joshhorne4239 Před 17 dny +3

    I’m sorry but I watch you to see have better players then myself play cedh. And I’m afraid that Stella Lee player is so so bad. He floated mana for the gilded lotus used one of it to suspend the drana linvala and he doesn’t pay the wandering archaic when he has 5 mana open. So he copies it and kills his Stella. Wtf 🤦🏻‍♂️😂 I just can’t deal with watching bad players I’m afraid. Usually love your cedh games but this was just awful to watch

    • @Gweezy12
      @Gweezy12 Před 16 dny

      web cam games are really hard to keep track of everything cut the man some slack. This isn't the pro tour.