Should Tata (Land Rover) buy Fisker and make THIS a new Range Rover Evoque Electric?
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- čas přidán 29. 04. 2024
- What if Tata Group (who own Land Rover and Jaguar) buy Fisker who are currently in some financial difficulties?
This is the Fisker Ocean Hyper Extreme Edition One and it’s very much like a Range Rover Evoque or Velar. They could quite quickly use Fisker as a sub brand or put their badge on this and call it the Land Rover Ocean ?
They need to get into the EV market quicker and this could be a quick solution.
It’s a Sports Utility Vehicle (SUV) that could fit the brand really well and it’s ready to go (well, pretty much, needs some software finishing!)
Huge battery of 113kwh which gives a range of over 400 miles potentially and at sensible pricing.
Some great features are included in this car and I think would fit into Land Rover product line up really well.
It’s just an idea. What do you think could keep the Fisker name alive?
Thanks for watching.
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It’s great to see someone rallying for Fisker instead of slating them,I sincerely hope they survive,cheers Rich and team 👍💪😉
Car salesman mode engaged…
@@PJWey😂😂 Richard is probably got one and trying to offload it 🤣🤣👌
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Yes, yes, yes. Great idea. Hope Fisker survive.
Should be good for my shares ;)
What a great idea, Richard. If only JLR could be that clear headed.
Imagine if Fisker survives this. They would make a movie about it
You're right Richard, it would be a good fit for Land Rover. And the Fiscker Ocean is made by Magna Steyr who also make the Jaguar i-Pace, so that fits well for LR too.
I was also going to say they're made by the same people that make the electric Jag. I love the concept of the Ocean. It's a big shame (and it's also rather curious) people seem to have turned against it in such a big way.
It’s a good car, just blighted by software that’s now ironed out completely. But I’m using this car daily and it’s a pleasure
@@RSEVWhen I heard about it I decided it would be my ideal car. Delays and no RHD meant it came off my radar as a purchase. So got a Model Y and delighted with the purchase.
@@JK-lu1dgV1 software was terrible and so released a bit too early really. Got the reputation that killed sales and V2 was great by all accounts but too late.
Great idea, and as they are made the same place as some Jaguars, it isn’t too far fetched. The software glitches is the only problem with this car, but that can be fixed. Otherwise it is an awesome car, and it is a pity if it doesn’t survive.
‘1990 wants it’s 3 spoke wheels back’.. Possibly the best comment you have ever done on a review, and I’ve watched them all!
“Apparently it takes a lot of money to start a car company” was pretty good too.
I've said that Honda should cut ties with GM and buy Fisker.
This is a genius idea. Tata should absolutely take this car, replace the software with a sort of 'Polestar' OS and make a mint!
I hope this car survive, great looking and has great range , shame its not looking good for them 😢
Someone that’s looked at all the positives of what is, without doubt, a great idea and has been built with the best of intentions.
I’ve got an Ocean One and yes, it’s got a few bugs BUT, the car is a joy to drive and probably the most comfortable motor I’ve ever had. The car goes from Somerset to Kent on a weekly basis and does so easily without having to stop to recharge.
Well played you…
They're a smashing looking car.
This car does not deserve to die, I hope some popular company will save them! The car does has issues but 99% is software (which can be refined with the right talent), the hardware seems to be sound!
Owned Land Rovers for 25 years and only left them when I wanted to go electric. If this had been available I could have been tempted. Nice idea but who will make it happen?
It wouldn’t break down enough for it to be a Land Rover.
That’s why they need it
Actually it does. Check some angry users esp in the US. And also Brownlee.
I dunno, Fisker got form
@@tesla-spectrewhy breakdown round talking about? Brownlee was concerned about the software. He said the build quality was very good.
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Land and Range Rover fan here who, had Fisker not suffered the worries of what happens if they collapse would now be driving an Ocean Extreme instead of the new electric Mini Counttyman Sport alongside my 2023 Defender D250 90. If JLR could keep the present fire sale prices they would have a winner on their hands. It’s a wonderful car with an amazing ride on steel springs and 22” wheels. OK there are some OTA Updates to come to cure the software issues and complete the “toys” owners have paid for but haven’t yet been activated
At last a proper UK review, thank you.
Unbiased (as usual 🙏) and no hidden agenda about a few software errors that are mainly fixed. Thank you
I think it's a great idea, I love the look of the car and would love to see it survive even if it was under another brand. Great positive review by the way.
What a great idea, Richard. I hope you’re into something.
The dogging windows are perfect
Love my Fisker Ocean One. Honestly less care who will purchase them as long as they survive.amazing vehicle even with the software issues
Is it not made in the same factory as the Jag E-Pace / Tata?
You are 100% right and the car is good too, hope they do it.
Car isn't good, if it was wouldn't go under.
Already has a fully electric tow hitch built in and can tow 1500 pounds . There are pre drilled roof rack mounts as well, so this thing is ready for weekend camping trips and country getaways.
I have had mine since Nov 2023 and put 6800 miles on it. Aside from a few early version software glitches, its been a reliable, fun and attention grabbing car. The range efficiency keeps getting better and by the time we get (if!!) software update 4.0 (currently have 2.0) its gonna be a truly awesome car.
This is a great match, certainly better than some of the other possible buyer/investor ideas being floated.
I store a TV in mine. It fits perfectly under that boot area. The Ocean always did have a range rover look to it and in a good way.
Thanks for a great review of the ocean 🌊 i agree with every points
Thanks for the enlightening and positive video on the potential of the Fisker Ocean as a Range Rover. I saw the potential a few months ago with their designs for the Fisker Ocean Monterrey Edition and their more rugged version for the outdoors they were planning. Great idea, and would be a great addition to the Tata Motors Land Rover line.
I saw one recently. First I one I'd see on the road, and i thought it looked amazing.
The Fisker Ocean seems reasonably well built and it drives reasonably well. The software is quite buggy but that can potentially be fixed over time with software updates, if the company survives. I hope Fisker can find a way to survive as more choice is good for the consumer. Also the next car they had in their lineup, the Fisker Pear, looks like a very interesting car too.
its a really lovely looking car, if i had the money i would get one possibly
I actually saw a Fisker Ocean parked up near our house yesterday
I own an Ocean Ultra and absolutely love driving it!
Great idea, it's a beautiful car and the only issue is management, bad owner, bad CEO.
Well done Richard. A fantastic looking EV….it would be a shame if all that development and design ideas are wasted. Come on Tata…buy them!!
I would buy one if I had the money, they are a great looking vehicle.
But who fix it it went wrong . If possibly there days are numbered . No software updates etc to fix the bugs even after v2
Congrats……you would have just dropped 30k on a large paperweight lol
@@peedeegt it runs and drives .
Well done Richard, really great video, having been watching Fisker over the years. Would be sad if all the investment and innovation was to be wasted, indeed Landrover could learn from Fisker. Love your enthusiasm.
Yes - absolutely should be the next Landrover and drag LR into the 21st century. And remember the original Freelander Mk1 had a drop-down rear window which allowed surfboards, ladders etc to be carried with ease. I still have one and love it.
Brilliant, brilliant idea. I could imagine a Land Rover Fisker, a bit like there is the Land Rover Évoque.
Totally agree with you Richard it needs rescuing and sooner rather than later , I was hoping Musky would step in but no joy there 🤷♂️ not as if he’s short of a few bob 😉
Great video keep em coming 👍
Really would like to see Fisker make it. Beautiful car.
MKBHD is new to reviewing cars and his main issues in his review is the software that does need some work but the car is actually quite nice. Drives very nice, comfortable ride, feels very solid and range seems to be extremely good.
I think he was unhappy that Fisker stalled him until the 2.0 update was out. So the rest is history.
The best idea for Fisker I've yet heard.
Yes great idea indeed. I hope someone goes in either them or buys them out as the car is stunning. Fingers crossed 🤞
Great idea, for JLR Fisker would actually be a step up in terms of build quality.
A Fisker Ocean drove past me today next to Greenwich park, it had nearly the same number plate as that one. LJ73 FNS
Bloody good idea mate let’s have some fish and chips and a pint
Great car, fingers crossed they can keep on trading directly and or via another OEM
Well done showing and display of a truly great vehicle that just needed a different kick in the pants to keep moving forward.
Great suggestion Richard. No Fiskers where I live in Australia, but if TATA were involved the Fisker Ocean could be developed to be everything you’ve suggested. Pity you haven’t opened an RSEV in Australia!
Richard, I’m all in with you. TATA would be an excellent answer for Fisker and Fisker would be a great choice for them. With the negative headlines around Fisker leadership, a change in branding is all they need. The evoque to date is one of the most beautiful SUVs made. It would be a solid pick.
Brilliant idea. Let’s hope TATA watch your video.
Good idea. Wait for Fisker to go bust and buy the IP for a song. Magna already build the iPace for JLR, so they can keep building the reengineered Ocean
where was it filmed? the river looked great
best idea so far ... would fit quite well
Sound like a great idea Richard!!!
Agree love this. Hope they make it and improve the software.
More variety is always good, and the workers at Magna in Graz would sure be happy if Fisker would go on producing cars there
I agree , would be good for Land Rover.
I agree with you.
Re LR + RR owners switching to electric, I saw on the EV9 Facebook group that quite a few LR users are switching to EV9.
That’s me. The lease on my 2021 Discovery 5 HSE diesel ended. I now drive leased EV9 GT Line. Both 10 square meter cars… My Disco was a great car. 100 % reliable. Loving the refinement of the EV 9, though not at the premium level as the Disco..
Agree
Clever idea. The biggest problem with such a plan is once implemented and these were in the LR showroom, LR would be unable to sell their other legacy products.
I'd love to see someone rescue Fisker. They deserve to survive. Its a wonderful product. Long Term Support would be the fear. Perhaps they'll open up the support with the documentation so even Halfords, yes, the company who took my Suzuki SJ410 4x4 system apart (when it needed the clutch arm replaced) and gave me the bits in a Tesco's carry bag and said good luck!
But if people could buy these vehicles with some long term warranty and the confidence to resell, they'll be gold!
I'd love one when my I-Pace goes. But I've a feeling my next vehicle will be another Tesla or something very BYD, Great Wall etc.... The Chinese are coming and they're doing a great job
Apple have massive cash reserves and two days ago they announced a $110 billion share buyback. Imagine if Apple used some of that cash to buy Fiskar and updated the cars with their easy to use and reliable software.
That’s a great idea!!! Better than mine 😂
This would be a great move. JLR need to sell more EVs and a restyled version of this with a different interior would be perfect. Another upside is that it’s already being produced in the EU so there wouldn’t be the import tariffs in some of its largest markets. Plus Fisker have the Pear under development which would make a decent E-pace replacement (with a proper jag interior) and very low production cost. The Fisker brand is probably tarnished beyond recognition by now, except among diehards so rebranding with an established brand would keep a potentially great car on the road.
Interesting proposition, it could work, I even like the car
Its interesting to watch your review and compare it with Marques Brownlee's review of the same car. I too hope Fisker make it.
To be fair even if it’s unreliable, at least it would fit in with the rest of the Land Rover range
Love it, makes sense! Good video. :)
Great idea - They would never agree to it though! However the possibility of incorporating it as a sub-brand of Tata - that might fly.
(Shame I didn't look right as I approached the bridge - A bit of face time with you & the Ocean would have been great, but alas I drove on by 😢)
I think you might be right. Good call.
A very good idea Richard
Agree 100%, genuinely hope it happens.
Well the Jaguar part of JLR is supposed to be going all electric in 2025 so it’s about time Range Rover catch up! The face lifted Evoque and the Velar look like they should be full electric already. Perhaps they could buy Fisker keep the brand as an entry level addition to the group and actually graft Range Rover bodies and interiors, with a slight refresh onto the Fisker underpinnings as an upsell. Maybe a stretched version for the Velar?
Wow! How nice if Land rover buys or partner up with Fisker and updates this care more! So much rooms to improve and develop further! This car is the only one which can compete with Chinese EV in the future!
Great idea.
Since same days there is a rumor that Fisker is in negotiations with 4 different (??) car companies. Maybe TaTa/Landrover is one of them. And Richard I as Ocean Owner would really appreciate that Fisker get into a partnership or to an buyer. Yes from the brands and products it fits well to Landrover. From service perspektive (as a owner) I would a little bit prefer Stellantis, because the dealer net is bigger - even here in Germany. But at the end not our wishes are counting. Only the actions of the CEO's & BoD are important and I hope that they act to the best of the companies and let Fisker survive.
Great idea
Agreed. Love my Ocean.
Yep defo looks like its got the reliability of a Land Rover ;=)
Just call it the freelander... Fits in as is
Feel for Fisker and owners, but JLR are doing shakedown tests with their own EV's. Have been for a little while now. See them through my village quite often.
Well said. Fully agree
Best review ever 😊
“Half as fast as that” - a common phrase that is kinda amusing if you think about it 😅
Yes Great idea. Love the style
A realy good idea
Rich moving into Insolvency Consultancy now. I like it. 🎉
Fits with the times…
Agree with you Richard. Land Rover should buy fisker out because Land Rover would get a ready built Ev cross over cheaper than designing one from scratch
Should have been released with v2.0 software. This car needs better business people (I'm looking at you Henrik and Geeta)
I was on the M5 recently with my wife and son. A Fisker Ocean pulled along side us (we were in slow moving traffic) and we all said what a fantastic looking car it is. None of us could take our eyes off it!
It's a shame about all the reliability issues and poor build quality, but then I suppose that would be a good fit for JLR who make some of the most unreliable cars on the road!
I would love JLR to turn things around and start building cars as reliable as the Japanese and Korean brands. Maybe buying Fisker and fixing the Ocean will help them do just that. Great idea Richard!
The Fisker Ocean is manufactured in Magna Steyr, Graz, Austria, and the Jaguar i-Pace is made in Magna Steyr, Graz, Austria - seemless
I agree.
Imaginative idea, could work. they could then have a different platform for a small Jag XE type saloon/hatchback
A question for you guys a bit off topic. Ive tried to configure a Tesla model Y 7 seater but it can’t be done. Is this not available in UK? Thanks for your time
No 7 seat model Y never been available here.
I’ve tried one in the US and the back two seats are almost useless anyway.
Only real alternative in the Uk is Merc EQB. We made a video on that before.
Or stretch budget for Kia EV9 but that’s quite a bit bigger
Thanks for your help in this matter great advice it’s a bit confusing when you go on the Tesla page. It has a big bold five seat arrangement where it looks like you can press the tab to make it seven so thanks for that. Yeah that Kia EV looks nice, but big price tag, kind regards Lee great videos
Range Rover E-Voque you mean?
Or EVoque
Perfect 👌
i was all for buying one then the bad news about Fisker started to drift into the press and the internet. I would still buy one if major company adopted them and they had a dealer network. Not sure Tata would be that company as they are reportedly spending heavily to develop their own electric product on similar lines but would be probably fifty percent or more expensive.
Great idea Richard... send your video to Tata head office.
I concur
It’s a good looking car and the hardware pretty good when I tried it but the software was atrocious. Simple things like the power windows didn’t work properly. But it’s well worth a second chance. Hope Fisker Ocean will get one.
If you did there marketing it would have been a best seller
I'd love to see it happen, this car needs some rough edges polished but is otherwise pretty good. Unfortunately, it's pretty unlikely.