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@Larissa . Just something to think about:- You and your country is free from the Nazi's and Soviet Communists because of men like this ... but I am certain you have already acknowledge such.
You can't even imagine the relief those people felt when the war was over unless you talked to those involved at the time about it, that gives a person an inkling.
Sledge wound up in China for a while after the Japanese surrender. He found a Chinese family that were well educated that were like a surrogate family for him that he could have intellectual conversations with like with his real family at home. Sledge talked about hearing the nationalists and communists lobbing artillery at each other and the American troops kind of caught in the middle. He never heard from that family he befriended ever again after he was in the USA, likely they didn't survive China's turmoil at the time.
They didn't leave John Basilone on Iwo Jima. He is now buried in Arlington National Cemetery not very far from where George Marshall is (the guy for whom the Marshall Plan is named) buried. George Marshall was Chief of Staff of the US Army and later the American Secretary of State, the top diplomat in the US government.
Actually, most of those guys didn't ever see each other again. The Band of Brothers bunch was quite unusual in that they did have reunions. Some Navy guys did have reunions once in a while after the war, but even that was unusual and not universally attended by all their former shipmates. Most just wanted to get on with their lives. A guy around the corner from me when I was in college in 2001 served on a destroyer mine sweeper with the novelist Herman Wouk. He actually wrote pretty realistically about what it was like to be in the Navy at the time even though his characters were fictions. They did have ship reunions after the war, but Wouk never showed at any of them for what that is worth. Again, most people just wanted to get on with their lives and not live in the past. Those who did talk about the war were seen as total bores by both civilians and those who were in the military.
You should read the books by those in this miniseries, and I'd recommend the trilogy on the Pacific Theater by Ian W. Toll. It really shows what it was like for the front line soldiers, rearward soldiers as well as the civilian support people on those islands out there. The SeaBees were the Navy construction people to build those airfields and other infrastructure and that's an incredible story in and of itself, and they also weren't without danger out there.
Lecky was actually a devout Catholic his whole life, that conversation was more of a creative liberty by the writer.
That's modern scriptwriters for you. They only want to tell tales of loss of faith and protagonists cursing religion.
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Truth is not determined by date. @@dangerousshoes
If you say so, sure. I just thought your comment was a little strange.
Yes. Thinking is good. You should do that. @@dangerousshoes
Larissa, you do not understand the love that can exist between to men that is deep and NOT in the least bit sexual. I had a friend growing up that I loved dearly. He was in essence the brother I never had ( I did have 2 sisters). We did everything together, I guess I was the brother he never had. In high school, we double dated and while I had a girl friend, he played the field. We both went off to different universities and he eventually became a missionary to Venezuela. He died in an auto accident decades ago, which absolutely crushed me. The Bible speaks of that kind of love in the love David and Jonathan shared and the love Christ had for all of us. No greater love has a man that he should lay down his life for a friend.❤
Agree, Larissa is 100% wrong and has no understanding of that at all and I think she should be ashamed of herself for saying that and saying it the first time in the Peleliu Landing episode and she owes people and Sledges and Phillips family an apology for it.
But I get the feeling Larissa has been indoctrinated into the common Gen Z way of thinking.
19:20 “Once you have had the best, there can be no other.” A direct quote from her.
And man, the pressure on any guy getting into a relationship with her. How the hell do you try to measure up to a man like Basilone?
Saw a good interview clip with Sidney Phillips about something that happened long after the war. Remember during the Australia episode, he was the one with the beautiful young Melbourne girlfriend and the grandfather chaperone. In the series her name was Gwen but apparently it was actually Shirley and they never had the hotel encounter shown in the series but became fast friends and corresponded. Eventually she married an Australian Spitfire pilot and had a long happy marriage with children. But one day in the 1960s while Sid was at his job as a physician in Mobile, his wife Mary called to tell him that Shirley was at their home while visiting America. He was puzzled and said Shirley who? To which his wife responded you know... Shirley. Long story short, while they were staying there, Sid’s daughter and Shirley’s son became fast friends and later got married, so Sid and Shirley shared the same grandchildren in the end. Both of their spouses eventually passed away when they were in their 80s. They continued to correspond but never thought about getting married.
That is so amazing. Thanks for sharing that 🙂
Eugene Sledge is a national treasure, so glad we got to capture his stories. I often think of Andrew Haldane and what a great man he and hillbilly would have been had their lives not been cut short by this war
15:45 fellas is it gay to have a best friend?
Nope
Of course not!
Bruh, I had to do a double take when she said that lmao
Did you notice what the taxi driver said to Leckie when he refused the fare? He said that he had jumped into Normandy and thus must have been a paratrooper like the men in Band of Brothers.
Probably too busy thinking they might be gay.
I am now 75 years old, having served 26 years in the Army in parachute infantry and Special Forces. My wife--the sweetest and most beautiful woman on earth--and I have been married for 53 years. My father was an infantry officer, with two Purple Hearts, making amphibious landings in New Guinea and the Philippine Islands during WWII. So, The Pacific has a special place in my heart. Larissa, I must tell you that while I watched your genuine and sincere reactions, your heart-felt emotions, and watched the tears well-up in your eyes, I could not help dong the same. God bless you.
The officer Vera was dating was the voice actor for Garrus Vakarian from Mass Effect.
What a story
I knew he sounded familiar.
I knew very little about the Pacific theatre before watching The Pacific. Then afterwards I read Sledges book. It's absolutely crazy to imagine what these men went through. I highly reccomend reading it if you want to understand even better what the war in the pacific was like.
These patriotic movies should move us to preserve all that these men and others fought and gave up so much for. God love them and keep them. They not only fought for freedom but passed the torch on to us.
Sledge was in China for a year after the war. He wrote the book China Marine. His war memoir is considered one of the greatest ever written. The third miniseries by the same producers, Masters of The Air, will be seen during January.
There’s a documentary called “peleliu 1944 horror in the pacific” on CZcams that has interviews from guys like Eugene, Bill Leyden, and others from the 1st Marine division who participated in that one battle. It’s pretty good!
One of my Grandfathers fought in the Pacific and the other was a bomber pilot in Europe. Now that Band of Brothers is behind us, he brought back a Japanese Arisaka rifle from the War. It's sitting right here and I sometimes wonder what horrible things and how many soldiers and civilians alike were killed with it.
P.S.
I have the same Freddy Kreuger/Kurt Cobain sweater!
I had an Arisaka rifle I bought for $5 in 1963. It was a great shooter but not worth much as a collectors piece since it had been rechambered to 30-06. I killed a couple of wild hogs with it. I sold it for $75 to pay some of my college expenses (1967). It really was a fine shooting rifle; very, very accurate. I do know that late war models weren't as good. Mine was made in the 1930s.
My dad´s father suffered from PTSD and relived/had nightmares of the battles he was in every night the rest of his life after WWII. He fought in the Finnish army during the Winter war and Continuation war against Soviet. So this series hit´s home for me very much regarding the mental effect of the soldiers in the war.
I just want to show your grandfather some love and give him my respect. The conditions he fought in and the battles he fought were both brutal, and he has my admiration.
@@OddBallPerformance Thank you very much!
These were ordinary men that did extraordinary things in a world at war. It was a time when men and women knew there were things greater than themselves.
The last episode…is very emotional for everyone I talked to who saw this.
It must be mentioned Sledge didn’t go directly home after the war. He spent time in China as an occupation force. You can read about it in “China Marine.”
She said that John was the best man she ever met and wanted no other man ever.
Please react to GENERATION KILL next, its the last entry in hbo's war series. its about the invasion of iraq so its semi current, its brilliant, hilarious but the dark moments are dark. stars some really great actors, definitely a must watch since youve watch BOB and the pacific
I'd second this but we don't know if Larissa would be down with it exactly Generation kill fuckin rules but it's raunchy tbh.
A bond between men that is forged by war is stronger than anything we as civilians will ever experience. I don't know if you have a partner but if/when you do, no matter how much you love them, that love will never approach the love brothers in arms have for each other and it is not predicted on sexual attraction.
Notice the look on Leckie's face in the opening scene when it is announced that the war is over. The war may be over for everyone else, but these men are still suffering the physical, emotional and psychological wounds which will take many more years to heal (if they ever do at all).
Eugene Sledge and many from his division didn't immediately return home when the war was over. They had to spend more time in China helping to disarm and repatriate the Japanese back to their home country. They returned to the states about 6 months after everyone else did. All the celebrating was long finished by then.
This series didn't really do justice to what John Basilone did on Guadalcanal. It basically just glossed over it. What he actually did defies belief.😲
Eugene Sledge had a lot of trouble readjusting to civilian life after the war. He spent many years suffering from the effects of PTSD, as did Robert Leckie and probably all of the combat veterans. One of the more common sufferings among all branches was "Survivor's Guilt". The more action they saw, the more intense their respective levels of PTSD.
Eugene spent many years alone, without seeking a mate, and it had nothing at all to do with Mary Houston. It was due to severe PTSD. I never sensed ANY tension at all between Eugene Sledge and Sydney Philips and none (that I can recall) was mentioned in his books. He also wrote a book titled "China Marine". The Pacific theater was especially brutal and barbaric compared to the European theater, not that war, in and of itself, isn't brutal and barbaric but the Pacific was particularly violent.😕
Funny thing, Bob Leckie wrote for the Bergen Record and I not only used to read the Bergen Record, but I was also featured in one of its front page news stories many years ago.🤫 Peace🕊
They never shared that train ride back. Sledge got sent to China to process the surrendering Japanese and help stablize the region for one more year. Apparently the marines almost mutinied because they were so fed up.
Though it is a fitting way to send them off.
Yes Eugene went to China and Snafu had already gone home after Okinawa. Snafu didn't go to China
Sledge loved China. He spent a lot of time with a Chinese family that he stayed in contact with via letters after he went home. He had a lot of respect for the Chinese people
@@nataliestclair6176 Actually he never heard from them again when he came home. It was the priest he kept correspondence with.
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It's great to see someone of your generation willing to learn about what our greatest generation went through and the price they paid for the freedom we enjoy today. Well done, young lady. I really enjoyed your reactions to Band of Brothers and The Pacific.
There's a full video of the intro's on here. I don't think it will let me link it. Look up "The Pacific" historical introductions narrated by Tom Hanks.
The two ships named for John Basilone were the Gearing Class Destroyer USS Basilone (DD-824) that was christened by Lena Basilone, and the currently in service Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer USS John Basilone (DDG-122). The latter was christened in 2022, is homeported in Mayport, Florida and carries the fitting motto of 'Honor Loyalty Sacrifice'
The actual photo of Lena is from the christening ceremony of the USS Basilone
Sledge's unit was sent to China after the battle of Okinawa they spent a year there. He wrote a book called "China Marine about his experiences there. They were there disarming Japanese troops and securing parts of China against the communists.
The scene in the hospital at the beginning always reminds me of a Willie and Joe cartoon by Bill Mauldin. A wounded soldier is sitting in the hospital on VJ Day asking if he is still a war hero or now just a burden on the taxpayer.
Sledge was actually posted to China and Korea when Japan surrendered - US forces went there in a race to seize as much of the former japanese occupied Korea and Manchuria as possible in a race against the soviet military coming from the north (which is how north and south Korea came about). Im pretty sure the rest of the men who feature in this series - snafu burgie etc... were all discharged straight away because they had longer services than Sledge. Sledge wrote a second book, called China Marine, about that experience and I dont recall it mentions the others. Its a bit of a bleak story and Sledge clearly did not like being around asian people during that period. But - to get to the point - the part with the train journey is pure fiction. Sledge's real discharge from the marine corps was a dismal experience and he was a lot more aggressively disturbed than this episode shows. I suspect he would not have liked how he was portrayed in this episode because it shows him as softer than he really was.
Its not mentioned in the end part but Chuck Tatum - the guy who became a race car driver - wrote the book Black Sand, Red Blood, which the series relies on to tell the Iwo Jima part of the story. Tatum was the last man (who survived anyway) to see Basilone alive.
I've read Bob Leckie's _Helmet For My Pillow",_ and he was actually a brilliant writer, in terms of his mastery of crafting sentences. Really genius with alliteration. Not especially insightful or philosophical, but fantastic with words. So yeah, there's good reason he managed to get 40 books published. I don't know if he's been translated into Dutch, but he's worth reading in my opinion.
A fact about the end of this war as well according to my 92 year old grandfather: each man who served in combat during this time did not have to work for 12 months after coming home.
Survivor guilt is definitely. People who make it back from war, especially heavy fighting like these guys saw, it's not at all uncommon and you can see it all through the interviews with these survivors.
Masters of the air next! End of januari, from the same makers of bob and the pacific!
great stuff, thank you
Take it easy folks. While I disagreed with her "me too" comments re John & Lena, and her "bisexual" comments, it is HER reaction! I liked the rest of it and am glad she watched.
Honestly, with the guy who Vera was dating before Leckie talked to her, I feel like the fact that he got jealous and tried to decide for her whether she was interested in having dinner with Leckie was what made Vera decide to spite him and agree to dinner with Leckie. Then his reaction basically just solidified it for her
You may want to check out a documentary "He has seen War" !!! A lot of interviews from both the Pacific and Band of Brothers !!!
Beat me to it.
There was a version where the vets did talk a little (the pictures they showed of the men still alive in 2010 were the ones who spoke). I think it was the Blu Ray release or something.
It's on both the DVD and BluRay. You have to select, play with historical background. With BoB it would automatically play. Many reactors miss it. Some realize after they start the series but I guess nobody told her. It's a shame she missed it.
Why does same sex intimacy between friends equate to sexual? Not criticizing though. Just food for thought! Always appreciate it. Be well. Happy New Year!
I'll criticize her for it and i did the first time she said that in the Peleliu Landing episode. And just as I did about her Basilone comments in the Iwo Jima episode
Larissa is 100% wrong and has no understanding that 2 people can be such close friends and without it being sexual in anyway. She is dead wrong about Sledge and Phillips.
I think she should apologize to the Sledge and Phillips family on her next CZcams reaction for saying that.
@@nataliestclair6176 I agree. Her obsession with sex is absurd and almost pathological. She dishonored their friendship and owes an apology. I downvoted her reaction. I was disgusted by her narrow-mindedness.
Right after the war, there was an acute housing shortage. Homes, apartments, everywhere. It was a running joke and social meme with veterans sacked out on park benches. It took almost 5 years before the situation stabilized.
Sledge and Leckie's books are excellent, highly suggest them.
The Pacific is based on the memoirs of both Bob Leckie and Eugene Sledge
My dad flew fighters off a carrier in the Pacific. Said he was glad to fly above the mud and the blood. This series illustrates why. Thanks to the WWII vets. They saved the world.
Good job! Well done!
Other Pacific related films you could watch would be "Flags of our Fathers" about the American invasion of Iwo Jima and the flag raising and "Letters from Iwo Jima" covering the same events seen from the Japanese side. These two films, both directed By Clint Eastwood give a much fuller retelling of Iwo than the Pacific episode. An also "Best Years of our Lives" made is 46 right after the war about the challenges of three vets returning to civilian life, each with their own issues from the war. Wonderfu, bittersweet film.
Brave men have fought and died building a proud tradition fear and reputation we are bound to uphold🇺🇸
There were intros for the Pacific but for whatever reason the only place I know has them is the HBO Max
Ask your patrons about Kelly's Heroes haha... heist/war movie
Hey Larissa! For some reason some versions of this show don't have the talking in the beginning. In the original release. They included the talking before the show, showing many of the survivors giving their stories. Even the wives sometimes.
If you have seen these 2 movies are real events and real people.
HACKSAW RIDGE is about a man who earned the Medal of Honor without ever firing a shot in WW2. He was in the Pacific Theater in the most horrible battles fought in that campaign.
WE WERE SOLDIERS is about the first major battle fought between the People's Army of Vietnam and the US Army. Every name in the movie is about a real person. The enemy is not portrayed as a non-human beast but as real people fighting for what they believed. It also shows the effects of war on the families of the soldiers.
Hacksaw Ridge sucks A$$
26:35 they did the intro interviews for The Pacific as well, your version just didn’t seem to have it
I grew up in the 50s and got to know quite a few veterans from both Korea and WW2. I had a paper route and had to collect money every weekend. All I can say is every person I knew just got back to rebuilding their lives. The people of Europe and Asia picked up and rebuilt their communities. When the Cold War ended in 1990 the world was basically at piece for 10 years. In 2001 a new enemy to man's freedom appeared and a new global conflict appeared. Unfortunately we have those within Western society that are perfectly willing to ally themselves with those that will in the end enslave them. Evil cannot be totally annihilated, but it must be fought fiercely. That is the history of man.😢
You should check out Ken Burns’ WWII documentary The War.
Larissa is watching this show from the future in 2040 !
Great reaction also Masters of the air is coming early 2024 if you're interested, It looks like it will be another really good ww2 mini series.
We almost have the same birthday mines on the 19😭
Larissa, you did a fantastic job with this series. You had a few stumbles but you recovered and ended up with the best reactions I have seen. I do pray you are successful in building your business. I love, Love, LOVE your desire to learn more about the lives of the people you are watching. On so many levels you are truly a beautiful young lady. ❤😊
That last sentence is why you actually watch these vids, you weirdo.
Having faith in God is not a cult, Larissa and FYI, Leckie was a devout catholic all his life. Before, during, and after the war. Don't know why they portrayed if differently in the show.
Also Sledge was not sexually attracted to Phillips. You are clueless with throwing that out there. 2 men and 2 women for that matter, can have such a close friendship like that and it not be sexual.
I absolutely agree with you. I think all this confusion in large part is a result of the 1960s and it's gotten worse in the decades since. I happen to come from a Christian denomination where sexuality is something that is strictly reserved for two people who've made a lifelong commitment to each other in front of God. And sexuality is a very private matter, a way one doesn't act in public even when married. Women from outside my denomination sometimes don't understand that, but to act that way is putting the car before the horse.
I think it is really sad that everything is sexualized even a friendship between two people of the same gender. It's a distortion, but I think Larissa (listening to her over the course of her reactions to Band of Brothers and The Pacific) has been indoctrinated. She doesn't really think for herself.
Agreed. Pathological obsession with sex and bigoted against religion.
@@catherinelw9365 yes, I unsubscribed to her channel after that amd have not watched another reaction video of hers since.
2 guys being buddies.... this youtuber "I feel tension between them" 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Great episode to end the series, kinda a break from the horrors of the war. Lecky never stopped believing in God , his conversation with Eugene was him conveying his angered towards God not his disbelief, and when he grabbed Vera's hand , it wasn't to stop her from praying but to pray with her, almost like thanking God for the moment. Overall I really enjoyed your reaction to the series.
Please check out "We Were Soldiers" Starring Mel Gibson and Sam Elliott
Can guys not have a really good relationships without being gay like damn
these modern womans are disgusting.
Great reaction throughout! Thank you!
Why do today's young people equate caring and loving relationships as always being sexual?
I think those men would have been offended by the idea that their deep friendship may have been homosexual.
Also, how rude and ignorant to call someone's religious beliefs a "cult". Both were devout catholics praying together and holding hands.
I wont even begin to address your BS "therapy" remark.
Amen! So, as a Catholic myself, I will forgive Larissa and pray that she "reconsiders" her beliefs.
She’s a bigot and obsessed with sex. Her generation is pathological.
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Therapy. In those days even today a lot of men could use therapy alot don't need it. Quit pressing on people let them be. Support is what is needed
U dont understand that time.
Nope god played no part in the battle of hell.
You're comments are ignorant. Sadly it demonstrates the difference in generations who sacrifice and those that mock it. Sad
You dishonor these men by your ignorant and silly conjecture.
Compared to all the other nations the United States ended the war with barely a scratch, only 440,000 Americans died in World War II, out of 16 million servicemen. By comparison the British lost half a million out of 4 million men, the Germans lost about 7 million soldiers and civillians, and the Russians lost 35 million people. 119,000 American WWII veterans remain alive. 131 die every day.
That's fair - but remember that those 440,000 dead weren't evenly distributed. Many of those 16 million men never actually saw much combat, either because they arrived late or because they were in support jobs. Meanwhile, units like the 1st Marines, or 1st infantry division in Europe, saw a lot more action and had a lot more casualties than some other units. Some divisions actually had more than 100% casualties because as men were lost they were replaced by new recruits who then became casualties themselves. So overall American casualties were light compared to other nations, but for the men in those particular units things still got pretty intense.
And whats the point. USA 🇺🇸 doesn’t lend lease to Britain and Russia not to mention all the Merchant Marines killed transporting the weapons of war to these countries. If USA 🇺🇸 doesn’t get involved and decided to stay an isolationist country. I doubt we would be leaving comments in this comment section
Lazy idiot mouth sounds about right.