So Much Hate!! The Pacific Episode 9 (Okinawa) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | TV Show Reaction & Commentary
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I grew up in the 1950s. My best friend's father fought in the Battle of Okinawa except he was on a cruiser manning an anti-aircraft gun. His ship was hit by a kamakzi. He carried sharpnel in his body until the day he died. Okinawa was brutal for all that fought there.
The Okinawa campaign is the same one Desmond Doss was in when his unit fought on Hacksaw Ridge. It is important to note that Imperial Japan did sign the Geneva Convention and therefore did not adhere to the rules of war. You saw this in the movie Hacksaw Ridge. Under the rules of war it was considered a war crime to: 1. kill wounded soldiers 2. shoot medics 3. display a white flag in order to attack your enemy. In this episode you see Japanese soldiers use civilians in battle in order to gain an advantage over the Americans. Using civilians in this way was and still is a war crime. The Japanese disregarded the welfare of civilians in all the territories they administered. They were taught that their race was the master race and destined to rule the world in much the same way as the Nazis. Unfortunately such ideology is still with us today except now it's a religion that is destined to rule the world.😢 ABSOLUTELY LOVE 💕 YOUR REACTIONS.
To not take a side on war... If we had not taken a side in that war, Romania and Germany would have been much different. To not feel hate for an enemy who has killed everything good inside of you as well as your friends is a nice ideal, but not reality. If those who start wars are not challenged, what would become of the world?
For some added context, the personal hatred the Marines felt towards the Japanese was based on their cruelty and vicious resistance, rather than just simply race. You have to understand that each Island Campaign was essentially a new D-Day each time, or in several cases much worse. The Pacific campaign was brutal and this tone of this series reflects that.
You should read about the virgin cliffs where hundreds of school girls jumped off a cliff bc they were told to do it or the marines would eat them.
The Japanese of the 1930s-40s were nothing like the Japanese of today. The Empire of Japan did some pretty horrific things in WW2, it's hard to believe some of the things they did and used to think. The Pacific paints an over-sympathetic picture of them, but if you listen to something like Dan Carlin's 'Hardcore History' podcasts (the episodes called 'Supernova In The East') you can start to realise why the Empire of Japan was so hated for a lot of things they did.
The Japanese were taught from an early age that their lives belonged to the emperor. That is why they refused to surrender. The last Japanese soldier to surrender gave up in 1972.😮
You have to realize that these men, the Marines and the Japanese had been fighting for 3 years at that point. They had seen their brothers drop for years on both sides. Hate is inevitable.
Okinawa was the most lethal battle in the history of the US armed forces (Late edit: Sorry, second most lethal after Battle of the Bulge). It convinced American authorities that the Japanese high command would never surrender without the nuke attacks. And they STILL almost didn't surrender (a group of military officers tried to stage a coup to stop it).
Good reaction! The women who were strapped with explosives did not volunteer for that. They were forced to by the Japanese soldiers. And yes, the Japanese soldiers were proud to be Japanese. But the real reason why they attacked openly straight into enemy fire was because surrendering to the enemy was considered to be deeply dishonourable to the soldier and his family. And this is also why the Japanese armed forces treated prisoners of war who surrendered to them with contempt (through killing, torture, starvation, and general mistreatment).
The woman didn't want to carry the bomb. That's why she was crying and asking for her baby to saved. The Okinawans were considered to be inferior by the Japanese. Knowing that they were going to die for their Emperor the Japanese soldiers had no qualms about forcing the Okinawans to do so as well.
We need to get you a history book about the Pacific War and what led up to it. We fought for our Country, they fought for their Emperor, big difference.
The hate certainly wasn't one sided. The Japanese hated the US just like they hated them. The Japanese were cruel, I mean far crueler then the nazies. And the Americans knew it. The Japanese used to have races to see who could cut off more prisoners heads in a certain amount of time. The war in the pacific was absolutely vicious. Both sides were heavily invested in dehumanizing their opponents.
My grandfather wrote a book about his time in a P.O.W. camp in the Philippines and then Japan. The hatred, at the time, was being returned in like manner.
The way the Japanese fought this battle was one of the reasons why the US decided to drop the atomic bombs rather than attempt an invasion of the Japanese mainland. Here, the Japanese army knew they would lose, but were determined to kill as many Americans as they could beforehand. They were also very eager to use Okinawan civilians (who they saw as inferior to "true" Japanese) as suicide bombers or human shields. It's possible that the civilian loaded with explosives with her infant was forced or "coerced" into doing that.
Hate, I can't say that I understand what true hatred is, but I've seen it. My uncle survived the Bataan Death March and spent years as a prisoner of war, a POW, and a slave laborer - he had hatred of the Japanese until the day he died. I never knew what happened to him until I seen a documentary the local TV station did in the early 1980s called "Memories of Hell." I saw it as a kid and it changed the way I looked at him and other vets...
The Japanese were initially greeted as liberators in a lot of countries across the Pacific that had suffered under Western colonial rule. They proved to be so much more brutal and intent on exploiting the natives, the men as slave laborers, and the native women as "comfort women" than the colonialists ever did. Even the collaborationist military forces they setup to support their occupation, the people that had initially been the most enthusiastic in supporting the Japanese, turned against them. These native military forces, originally organized and armed by the Japanese, later became the basis of the armed struggle against the return of Western colonizers in places like Indonesia, Myanmar, and other areas of Asia.
This is where my Great uncle died, assaulting the Shuri line. The Japanese were heavily dug in and on ridge lost three full regiments in three assaults. Two of those ended with 10% or less uninjured and alive. One lost about 70%. This was our precursor to what it was going to be like invading the Japanese home islands and it scared most of the command structure. 500,000 purple hearts were struck in anticipation of the FIRST wave of wounded. We ended up using that one batch in all the following wars through Desert Storm. Wrap your mind around that idea of casualty rates. The estimates were we would lose up to 5 million men dead and the Japanese between 10 to 20 million dead. They also estimated up to 2 more years of fighting. This is ultimately why they used the bomb. You can justify it as actually saving millions of lives by nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Which, when you consider it, is actually the kinder thing to have done, given the choice?
War is ugly. It's all bloody and horrible. But the pacific was a completely different war than the one in europe. Germans didn't just sacrifice their bodies on a whim like the Japanese.
I have to think I would feel the same way Eugene did if I saw a mother and her baby forced to be a human bomb. That would take a lot to get over, if you ever could.