Destiny Gets Blackpilled By Kidology And Also Called Out By Aba
Vložit
- čas přidán 29. 07. 2024
- Destiny finally talks with Kidology despite FD Signifier begging her to stay away from him and they discuss Andrew Tate, incels and trans issues...
Date: 22 Feb, 2023
▼Follow Destiny▼
►STREAM - www.destiny.gg/bigscreen
►TWITTER - / theomniliberal
►DISCORD - discordapp.com/invite/destiny
►REDDIT - / destiny
►INSTAGRAM - / destiny
►MERCH - shop.destiny.gg/
Kidology
► / @kidologyco
► / kidology_co
Check Out My Amazon: www.amazon.com/shop/destiny
Buy My Merch: shop.destiny.gg/
00:00:00 Teasers / Intro
00:00:41 Kidology finally talks w/ Destiny despite FD Signifer
00:05:07 Kidology finally spoke w/ FD Signifier
00:10:21 Complaints from 6 years ago of the left are becoming valid
00:17:07 Professor flowers and Vaush
00:23:45 Problem w/ waiting until 18
00:32:13 Destiny's debate w/ Meghan Murphy
00:47:57 Kidology is pro andrew tate?
00:55:14 Kidology wants to talk w/ Sneako
01:00:00 Destiny finds out Kidology is an incel
01:10:33 Kidology understands Destiny's point
01:14:19 Aba calls out Destiny and says he's completely wrong
01:20:36 Destiny took the L against Aba
#destiny
#politics
#debate
Kidology
►www.youtube.com/@KidologyCO
queen behaviour 💟
lol no thanks
Actually 3month ago some blackpillers put Kidology's profile on a dating app. Gotta react to "Incels stole my identity & "experimented"...and I learnt a lot."
After watching Destiny react to the FD Signifier video and how much of a discourse terrorist (his words) he was, this talk could've really expanded into the leftist anti-dialogue problems.
A study just came out on Pew Research around Valentines Day why men are not willing to date or be in intimate relationships with the opposite sex.
Dude I feel so bad for Kidology, I am willing to sacrifice myself and volunteer to save her from being an incel
Smooth
Line up sir
How would it be a sacrifice in any way if a schlub like yourself can only ever dream of getting to be with someone as breathtaking and intelligent as Kidology?
@@gothbat676 r/whoosh
@@gothbat676 hope she sees this bro
It's insane that FD Signifier warned her not to speak with Destiny. And this conversation is proof of how wrong he was
It’s like a kid telling you mean things so you can only hang with them. Group people do this more I noticed
In what video he warned her??
He prob is making a point to be super calm, simply to prove him wrong. But Destiny does snap on ppl often, so it wasn’t a far fetched thought.
Black Mr. Girl
@@Price8903only if the conversation is already hostile prior.
Kidology, though I sometimes disagree with her, and perhaps all her ideas aren't fully fleshed out yet. Her approach is fully compassionate and she is actively seeking truth rather than confirmation bias. Glad she's getting more pull
Yeah. I find her really quirky.
This comment makes no sense. If her ideas need fleshing out then why do you want them to have more influence, rather than idk developing the ideas first? I don’t see what people like in her.
yeah you should wait till destiny thinks like her, then you will be onboard.
@@viceversa7245 because her heart is right. Or at least that's how it seems to me. She's still young. Opinions change. I don't need somebody to be perfect from the jump
Yeah she's cool
The chat should really chill with criticizing people who need to think through their positions after Steven challenges them... Not everyone is a hopeless nerd who has tested all their opinions in 100 different ways...
A really good convo overall. Thanks and best of luck on getting monetized to Kidology ❤
I bet she hasn't even considered the ethicality of gay incest in the absence of power dynamics.
I always felt that CZcams comments are way more genuine and more well thought than chat logs on the streams. Like it's like a band of weirdly obsessed degenerates
@@footballnotsoccer8873 its logical tho, twitch is reactionary, one person may type 50 different things in the chat and actually not care about anything he just typed, youtube is the exact opposite, only the extremes will comment, the extreme positives, complimenting destiny or guest, and the extreme opposites, aka haters and the very occasional thought through critique, so that will never change, its also not just for destiny but on literally every stream ever compaired to their youtube video counterpart
Exactly. Its the biggest problem with DGG and side vhannel communities rn. Literally everyone is an enemy to the point of the community becoming like a vaush reddit circle jerk.
Destiny's community is doing what he feared the most "waking up and realising we're stuck in our ways"
@@footballnotsoccer8873 just read the side channels.comments. CZcams comments are unhinged my man.
Never saw this collab coming. Great to see two strong, independent and brave woman of colour have these discussions
Ah look here we have the “like seeker” using old played out destiny is a girls name.
Nothing personal but he asked to tease people who do that 😵
@Heinz 57 channel is that why people call him a girl? I thought its coz of the blue hair and softness lol
@@heinz57channel39okay…
@@jordonbooman9913 I'm pretty sure the original meme came from JLP, he said destiny is a woman's name and it just stood the test of time.
@@Aartyman a stuck clock is right twice a day.
9:40 There is a certain kind of..I dont know, irony/hypocrisy(?) In someone telling someone else not to speak to content creators because they will exploit you because you're female and black. But then, when that someone himself is directly responsible for you losing 90 percent of your income because of his own irresponsibility, he instead chooses to blame the system.
Also I'm going to start calling people pdf files.
Just the thought of telling somebody to not talk to somebody is such a display of childishness. The more I've listened to that Signifier guy the more I think he is a coward. The only reason he didnt want her to speak to Steven is because he knows steven will take to her. Only way a guy like that thrives is by keeping people on a hook and stuck in their world unable to hear what people actually think
People like F.D Signifier are terrified of any ‘debate’ streamers because just like when Noah Sampson spoke to Vaush - when they’re made to openly defend their own positions in a live format without a script or bisexual lighting they fall apart immediately. Much better for them to try and trash the entire scene rather than admit that they just wouldn’t be able to handle even 2016 level conservative arguments lmao.
@@Vin_Venture896or rather there is no point in talking to racists lmfao. You guys wanna engage in your marketplace of ideas then go ahead, stop forcing us to engage with you lot when we know your intentions. There is a well of people you can go talk to
@@waynewayne8419 you’re kinda proving the point that you’d sooner call someone an epithet (regardless of validity) than actually engaging the points someone makes.
There’s certainly examples of fruitless debate, but when in recent debates Destiny has even shown they’re calling people things based on things they’re not even saying, it no longer becomes a valid reason to not engage.
@@bozzie_ you didn’t even attempt to read what I said. See why I say these conversations are useless?
Why do we have to engage with racists? And we didn’t tell you not to, except for a few but you can go engage with others. Just leave us alone out of that whole fiasco.
FD Signifier is probably the reason this talk happened. If he hadn't been so dogmatic in his attack of Kidology she might not have connected with Destiny. He Streisanded the situation 🤣
I gotta love that 😂 He played himself! 🤣
i think she’s actually a better match for destiny’s audience because she seems pretty smart and genuine, and for some reason she was in a buzzword-prone audience.
they can have great conversations because she is very educated and they can explore certain concepts and ideas around dating and so on
and her argumentation always is rooted in reality in some way. while brittany for instance often has these very emotional points which can be a bit repetitive and she does a lot of pandering too
Destiny audience isn’t any more intelligent on average, if that’s what you are implying here
@@dream1430 Ain't it funny how any group with a slightly more reasonable figure head get hot headed and assume they are more intelligent. For sure, I will take Destiny's audience over someone like hassan's any day but damn there are some real goofy people in his chat that stay stuff like "I am gonna share CP on here".
@@courtingdeath3364 i don't think that's his "audience", those people do that on anybody's stream.
There’s no guarantee of “good sex” with anyone. She means she wants a more meaningful connection than simply fucking and that being it, but then that’s a “volcel” as Destiny said. You can’t claim to not be able to have sex and then be picky. That’s stolen valor 😂
Incel stolen valor is crazy 😂
The point she's making is that sex for women requires more than just being used as a fleshlight by somebody you're not even attracted to/aroused by. Most incels could also find somebody if all they care about is finding a hole to stick it in but that would require lowering their own standards as well.
Lmao finally someone said it
Mmmm I do think there’s a gender difference here. Where “good sex” of course is never guaranteed but for women it’s WAY harder and they’re more likely to have actually bad sex in the sense that it’s painful, physically uncomfortable, and devoid of pleasure.
Like having sex that isn’t bad, painful, physically uncomfortable is WAY EASIER for men. So in that sense men can just kinda accept any sex that comes their way.
If sex actually hurt and didn’t feel good for men if not done well then they’d be way more concerned with good sex, too.
@@Kknderbueno Thank you. I don't know why this is so hard for them to wrap their heads around.
It's ironic that F.D. Signifier warned Kidology about Destiny and Vaush, saying they want to exploit her as a black woman, when his reaction stream to her video was so detrimental to her and her channel, and carried no real benefits for her. You might even say... he was exploited her.
Nice attempt but that doesn’t work, destiny doesn’t care about her,he wants to use her because of her recent implosion. Fd cares about black people, destiny doesn’t
@@waynewayne8419 🤡
@@waynewayne8419 ok… care to substantiate any of those claims my guy?
@@waynewayne8419Where do you exchange this care for a 90% drop in income? Money can be exchanged for goods and services like food and shelter. Care without money when you are the cause of the issue is the definition of rubbing salt in someone's wound.
@@xbabu142x are you trying to imply that FD contacted CZcams, a place that doesn’t care about black people, to break down her income by demonetization?
There is an interesting overlap between what Destiny is saying about how porn is not a substitute for sex and how Kidology doesn't consider the casual hooks ups one could get from dating apps to a viable option to overcoming her inceldom. Both points hinge on there being something valued beyond raw sexual stimulation.
It's the same as incels who don't consider hiring a prostitute as an option.
I think you're underestimating how much women don't want sex with just anyone. Just for needs sake. And that having sex with a sex worker is still not having sex with someone who wants you physically.
@stevielee28 i agree but many of us done it just to get over with it (lose virginity, get used to physical interaction, etc). In my experience, it made dating wayyyy more easy vs being sexless.
@@shinjite06 It's not the same, at all.
@@Stoppit-tidyupExactly this. Women and men don’t engage with sex in the same way. The idea that everyone want to engage in hookups is a very modern Western liberal mindset, which more people seem to be questioning.
Destiny helping her network with other content creators is really nice of him
South Africa just got greylisted. She's South African in name only. The majority don't think like her. They just want to separate from the West
Wow, kinda insane that she lost 90% of her income after that FD video. Maybe not his fault per se, but still sucks to see!
Yeah I used to watch FD occasionally but lost pretty much all respect for him after his beef with Kidology and can’t watch him. She did not deserve that at all. I’m glad Destiny is hooking her up with bigger streamers.
Even if it wasn't directly his fault, to tell her that it happened because she is a black woman online after his own audience are the ones who fucked her over is absolutely incredible.
@@amateurastronomer9752 I’m confused and out of the loop what did he do for her to lose all her money. Why would he talk? So bad about Destiny after doing that to her??
@@shadow12k this, and who is FD
@@MADDcartman1. Lefty brigading, basically lefties coming from FD’s community and mass reporting her videos.
2. FD SIgnifier is a leftist CZcamsr who’s pretty much in line with most if not all far left theories and ideology and acts accordingly. (Basically, constantly screeching about white supremacy and capitalism and patriarchy and all that old dogshit)
Tate simps are actually impressive when it comes to mental gymnastics lmao
You know one of those losers will go out with a Darwin award
Someone like kidology calling themselves an incel completely proves the word lost all meaning lmfao
Are you familiar with the origin of the term. Her use of it is much more aligned with its original definition.
@@petalchild Incel for women isn’t the same as Incel for men
@@petalchildwell first thing that pops into everyones head is a sub 5 who can’t get a girls attention to save his life
Black pilled huh? Time to grab the black hair dye, Destiny. ITS TIME FOR YOUR GOTH PHASE
Gothstiny 💀💀
More like Based Phase. Is he unironically becoming blackpilled in dating? Aka "looks are most important in dating/love success"?
Because he said alot of blackpill stuff here
@@danielsurvivor1372 looks only matter until ur 22 then only career matters. Facts are facts
Would love an emo fringe phase maybe some mascara lol
@@danielsurvivor1372 Black Pill does get it right that looks and physical is often very important, especially initially because it gets you in the door. But that's only one part of the truth. It's like saying I know how to cook but I forgot 80% of the ingredients.
So thrilled this crossover finally happened, I've always thought that Steven and Zee could have great discourse as nuanced moderates and the outcome was even better!
I've been watching kidology for a while and I find her thought processes really interesting, awesome to see her here!!
yeah, i found the thought process where she said only 40% of men would fuck her on the street quite... interesting....... Lol
Some men absolutely treat porn as alternative to sex, Destiny. How do you think incels and blackpill people go by? They gave up pursuing women, and because there is lots of high quality porn around it's easer for them to not even try.
@@highlightrelz897oh dear god, men have…..OPTIONZ?!?!
Anything but that 😂❤
@@highlightrelz897How does men watching porn make women miserable?
@@Macheako not really. Anyone can watch porn 🤷🏽♀️. The reason why it’s deemed bad for men is b/c yall go over board it becomes and addiction and you can even give yourself erectile dysfunction beating your slonge 3x a day 5 days a week. A dude in college says sex is too painful b/c he use to beat off that much. Dude is 24 and can’t even get hard. I mean your body your choice (lol) but that ain’t healthy bruh
@@tatianadaniel3569 I can tell you why, from personal experience. After a traumatic relationship, I have recently decided to give hook-up culture a try and have been on the lookout to find a no-strings attached relationship. I found a suitable candidate on Bumble, and though he wasn't good looking all that much he still had a good sexual compatibility and I offered him ample opportunities to come and see me in person so that we could engage in our tryst. Yet each time I asked him to come, he didn't take up on the opportunity of seeing me at all, and instead felt satisfied with just asking me for nudes instead. Now what sort of imbecile turns down the prospect of having a healthy sexual encounter in favor of just getting lewd photographs instead? Apparently modern men.
@@gothbat676 Did you send him nudes??
I went on a e-date with Kidology on stream! It was very fun!!!
Love her e- date stream was so much fun to watch & I learned alot about her.
man i love kiddie but she really needs to stop bullshitting herself into thinking she's not a volcel.
so true half the chat woulda prolly pipe her down lmfao
not even volcel, probably pretending for clout... or maybe she thinks it's quirky to identify as a femcel considering those are the kind of women who visit incel forums
If the men she wants don't want her. doesn't that make her incel?
@@confaffalator not it just means she has high standards, if you can have sex by lowering your standards your defenitly not an incel. It's like saying you can't buy an house because you only will settle for a 500M mansion, cmon...
@@confaffalator No, that just makes her picky.
I'm reading she doesn't see herself as attractive because of shade of skin which is sad because she's beautiful
@Angel Martin it's hard to understand because you aren't dark skinned. Even in the black community her skin is looked down upon. It's acceptable on a man but not women.
@@bunchielove6893 your second part is wrong, dark skinned men aren't acceptable in the world they are considered demonic evil usually to pale people, they made us hate ourselves fight against each other and to the point of brainwashing to want lighter skinned babies if you anything darker then Chris brown, thats why CB won't date dark women, that's why the most of the Caribbean don't want dark babies
@@angelmartin7310 diamond Jackson is hot
@@angelmartin7310 deranged? Like they started this war on dark skin, as if they went out of their way to make sure that dark skin was demonized, you can't get away with attacking men like that like it their plan to get rid of dark skinned of women, the high majority of the planet was dark skinned until you and those pale people came on the planet
@@angelmartin7310 just because your a Christian doesn't make you pure of heart, your just like the other people just hiding behind a "god"..doesn't matter how much you outnumber an enemy if their drive and motive out weighs your own, you are going to lose, especially when you just got out of 1100 years of destruction from another group to get thrown into another group, so when you have that much consecutive years of being destroyed and being taught to hate your own people and force to grape your own people you are not just going to get over that pattern overnight it's gonna take a while to rebrainwash people to love their original people and take a stand, and throw people out of the lands they don't belong, but you know everytime we get anytime of momentum these people execute the leaders burn the villages and rip out that leaders family by the routes but that's just your nature
Just two strong women having a great conversation!
Strong BLACK women.
did you know that destiny is a girl's name?
Dead meme.
@Johann Liebert mmmm hmmmm that's right honey!
@@Observette DGG can't think of anything new, so they need others to generate memes. JLP probably forgot about this joke 9 years ago, but DGG keeps repeating until someone else thinks of a new joke for them.
As a Muslim I do NOT see Tate as a good man at ALL. Plenty of us not connected to the net all day DONT appreciate the hype about him or how he is using Islam to gain grace from his dereliction obviously STILL in practice.
I don’t see him as a spiritual leader but I know a lot of Muslims he’ll bent on worshiping media celebrities and whiteness in general love it when ANY white person presenting converts to Islam no matter what they use to get into. They love to parade them around like some miracle to behold which is absolutely ridiculous and needy.
While we do hope for the best for ANY converting to be rid of poor behavior and purify their hearts we also have to bare witness against haram even if it’s against ourselves.
Islam is firmly not REDPILL and this attempt to co.op it into being so is a huge concern for millions of Muslims worldwide. We are talking about the dangers of it’s harm upon our community and looking for ways to remind believers not to embrace these echo chambers at the expense of our faith.
Apparently nobody knows what INVOLUNTARILY celibate means lol
Wtf does it mean then?
@@redaderoua8816 it means NO ONE would have sex with you. This does NOT apply to women unless you are a 1..
@@nevswain478 you haven't met some of the women I have
@@nevswain478 Damn, can't fit the description unless even prostitutes won't have sex with you.
@@nevswain478 not really. It means you are not able to have sex despite trying. It could still be due to bad game
Chat is crazy 🤣 paying attention to them constantly would take only a couple of mins to make even the most stable person insane. She is amazin! One of the most understanding and rational person I've ever seen. Also very articulate with words. Clearly sufferers from some self esteem issues though.
That's youtube chat, he's banned on twitch
it's ddg chat destiny got banned cus he's so frigging based
I think she is marketing herself and her views to capture red pill people though. The way she calls herself an incel even though she's pretty and likeable is also a way to draw those types of guys into her community. Not to say she's a bad person, but her views don't appear as though she has thought about them very much outside of what will make her appealing.
@@lilstevechan8427 Good observation.
@@feelinglikea488 I've always been a bit confused about this. Is dgg chat people on his actual website?
I’m so happy for kidologys online success
she is also a black woman archetype that we havent really seen in the space yet. the nerdy educated girl.
its a new aspect and maybe a representation a certain section of women in the future.
i actually know one girl in real life who falls a bit into that section
@@joediditde There’s plenty of them but they just don’t get the same exposure. She’s getting lots of views because of all the controversial topics she covers.
@@thezu9250 You right. That's why I said we haven't seen this type yet. On big platforms.
But I feel like this might be a type that will get more recognition in the future.
Destiny is definitely wrong about porn being a sub for sex. I know married men whose wives complain about not getting any, and I know it’s because those men are beating it. I went through a relationship where I had almost no real sex drive due to porn addiction.
There is no sceintific support for ‘porn addiction’ or that porn could crash one’s sex drive.
@@PakkiNakki maybe not the drive itself but the functionality of your penis over all yes. Porn becomes an addiction for men largely. I knew a dude who would beat his slonge 3x a day 5 days a week. A dude in college says sex is too painful b/c he use to beat off that much. Dude is 24 and can’t even get hard. You best believe having a broken penis has an effect on your sex drive but go off sis.
Ok, well I have 3 pieces of antidotal evidence for it
Yeah this is definitely more of a thing than he’s making it out to be. I’ve struggled with porn in relationships as well, and all my previous girlfriends (and my current wife now) have essentially asked me to stop because they could tell it made me less intimate. Like I was emotionally disconnected and also wasn’t really initiating anymore. It definitely hurt their self esteem and they felt like they had to compete with girls on the screen or something. If you google “husband watches too much porn” there’s a lot of ladies that are not getting any from their partners and they’re not happy about it. Some even say they would never date a man who watches it
This is my first time seeing/hearing about kidology. I liked her. I like her demeaner and the way she engages with topics. She just seems very open minded and logical. Plus she gets bonus points for having a cool accent. Hope to see her in more conversations/panels.
Well, how else were you gonna find out about her. There's not much cross section when it comes to black women. They're kind of all in the same bubble
@@suzygirl1843Definitely not the Same bubble….. that’s like saying all white women are in their own bubble 🤣💀 come on now
@@copiouscat White women in the West are mainstream. Black women are not. Why else do you think there has to be campaigns about inclusion? They only have 1 or 3 real black representation in a sea of white models. Otherwise, you have a thing called black Hollywood. Tyler Perry created his own studio due to this separatism and opportunity in the market.
@@suzygirl1843 …… Did you read what you typed? 🤦🏽♀️💀🤣 the “separatism” and the existence of Black Hollywood let alone Tyler perry creating a studio was because white ppl are “mainstream in the west” ….. But the point of my comment was to note that black women aren’t in just one Bubble so kidology’s reach to different audiences isn’t so far fetched as you said, because she has an array of topics and perspectives. Geez. Say you a hater or dont know shit about black women and Not familiar with kidology 🙄 Good day ✌🏽
yeah same, was just watching some random destiny videos where aba is mentioned and found her
Kidology is clearly a kid's name
If her issues with having sex are because of trauma, then that kind of discounts her status as an incel in my opinion. Trauma is an entirely personal matter, whereas inceldom is described as more of a societal issue. For example, i am a male csa survivor and i have the self awareness to realize that i'm a statistical anomaly, and my issues with intimacy have nothing to do with women, generally, and have a lot more to do with the specific woman that traumatized me.
Kidology is a kind of channel I disagree with about half the time, but I still watch her because the way she thinks is kinda fun to try and grapple with. I also think what she's attempting to do with her channel is quite unique and potentially a good challenge to rigid partisan thinking.
I need Her Brittany Aba and Dan all on a call. That would be so fun.
I really like this chick. She seems very intelligent and intellectually honest and her accent is nice.
Plenty of girls like her, they just don't get promoted. We have to have that ghetto stereotype
The conversation about men picking porn over actual sex made me think about the character "Crunch" from the movie "The Big Hit". Like I know it was a fictional character, but the idea of what he preaches regarding masturbation being better than real women has to come from somewhere.
She's actually pretty based. Thinks like the average non radical person.
I think maybe her broader point is we've normalized shit behavior. As destiny said back in the day a nude was like oh shit woahhh now you get someones nude at school and it's like cool yeah. Something as simple as that shouldn't be normalized behavior.
As well as how we've normalized reducing relationships down to looks or sex. There's a lot of normal behavior now that all combined causes broader issues that we ignore.
Destiny + Kidology = fantastic episode. They have to do this again.
How does a trans person know how a woman feels, and then identify as one.
When she said .pdf file, I lost it. 😂 Never heard that one before.
I saw people in the chat asking "why isn't this conversation more structured" - have some of these people ever had a conversation in real life
She is very well spoken, I'm gonna check out her videos. How did she get cancelled? She literally seems more open and calm than 99.999% of people, going just off this video.
FD signifiers following mass reported her channel for ‘transphobia’
Because you ain't black if you ain't with us
Sjws man
She just has a british accent dawg.
The accent helps but it’s way more than just that
i love seeing kidology getting a lot more traction on youtube and the whole political sphere.
the way she articulates and carries herself is incredible, especially in difficult situations , i have so much respect for the way she does it all.
Glazing
She's just speaking with a british accent 😂
@@hashcrash9729 exactly 🗿
dunno seems pretty common in the way middle class black people in the UK and by that I mean basically all middle class people in the UK talk and articulate themselves. I guess here South African roots may have some affect on that too.
But there is literally nothing special about her actual delivery. I always find it weird when people have a comment about how a relatively normal person person surprises them with how they present themselves.
@@hashcrash9729 Her accent is heavily South African though ...
Fantastic convo
These two could make a lot of content together I would watch.
Because I think she has the right questions and he has some plausable answers.
I think she has a big point about children of pornographic actresses, especially since so many young women have an onlyfans and are going to have kids in the future.
I would legit kill myself even if I went to hell, if people knew my mom has hours and hours of gangbang footage.
How does destiny not get that blocking puberty is super unhealthy?
Anyone who thinks puberty blockers are reversible isn’t thinking through how puberty works.
Puberty does more than change looks. I’m pretty sure there are people who have conditions that stop them ever having puberty and it’s incredibly unhealthy and bad for long term health.
Trans people don’t go through the opposite puberty, they go through no puberty.
Seems like a good portion of arguments boil down to "words mean what I want them to mean instead of what they actually mean"
I still can't believe Kidology would consider herself an incel (involuntary celibate). Her looks, attitude, and social skills are all fine. No way she would fumble the bag on a date so bad that most guys would not happily make her uncelibate.
If she can't attract the guys she would be interested in that makes her by definition an "incel". That is what every "incel" is. Any "incel" would have options if they lowered their standards enough or paid for it(porstitute)
She's kind of cold and distant, so Idk about social skills, but she's chill and pretty enough to overcome that.
I think there just needs to be a better term to apply to people who have totally checked out of the entire dating/sexual scene because of how gross and impersonal it has become. Instead of revolving around finding someone to start a family with now it revolves around getting as many notches on your belt as possible. In an environment like that even a conventionally attractive woman can feel like they're being involuntarily shunned from intimate connection purely because they have no interest in the hook up culture we exist in currently. That destiny's advice is to start a tinder account really speaks to the underlying problem here.
It’s called a cope and lying to yourself, she’s a Volcel.
@@noraththelost ^^^this
Them two seem like coming from different planets
She's a bit awkward and nervous but very articulate candidate trying to present herself the best she can. He's an HR guy, this is his 15th interview today, he likes her, he wants to hire her, but is also hungry and jumpy and didn't really read her CV but enjoys shading her previous interviewer
Different planets? That's the same damn world. It's called an "interview" 💀
Great convo - thanks!
Kidology is very beautiful. It is so hard for me to think of her as an incel. Like I can’t imagine men not wanting her. That blows my mind. She’s honestly beautiful.
Even just her mannerisms and overall vibe.
men do want her. she claims losing virginity doesnt mean anything. it has to be romantic and trust me she is no less than a 6 she is no fking incel and real incels should be mad.
Sometimes it’s just the demographics of where you live.
Thr provlem isn't guys not being interested. The problem seems to be her struggling to connect.
She's not an incel. She's a volcel.
She is lying though.
I like her. Would love to see more conversations.
Edit: I'll elaborate a little more.
After watching the just pearly debate , the extreme feminist, and others that got out of hand and talked over each other, I love how she pauses(and given time to respond as well) to gather her thoughts on the questions asked and is able to convey them.
1. Debate topics are known before the debate.
2. If someone is asked to debate on a topic with Destiny, it's likely they are an expert on the topic. That expert has probably debated that topic before and therefore can quickly respond to most of Destiny's arguments as they have probably heard something similar before.
3. This is not a debate, it's a conversation. She doesn't have a firm view on most of what Destiny is talking about and she is unprepared to talk about it - therefore the pauses.
You probably like her, so you've attributed these things to some positive trait.
@@0xnpctim definitely well put here.
@@0xnpctim I've watched plenty of her lives where she does call-ins. Her pauses seem natural to her. She does appear to be a genuinely reflective person albeit not being versed on the topic at hand.
Regardless, for me the pauses and thought are refreshing in the space of CZcams discourse, where far too often folks are verbose without substances, e.g. FD Signifer's conversation with Kidology.
@@0xnpctim I've o ly started watching Destiny's videos as of this month and this is my first time hearing of kidology. I can't "like" her after seeing her only once and never seeing her other content.
@@Aelitagurl yes….that is how most humans function…yep
I've been waiting on this connection
thanks for the videos August keep it up
Destiny doesn’t understand how difficult it is for women to get good sex. Even women who don’t want a relationship.
Or that good sex for most women doesn’t just begin and end with the physicality of the act- if there is not a certain level of emotional connection or understanding or respect there it can be an awful experience, worse than just not having sex at all. It’s hard to get across to these guys, including Destiny as their brains do not to seem to work the same way.
Then shes not an incel, shes just wants sex with connection
@@soupalotis that why their body counts are so high bro? 🤣
@@Macheako ?
@@Macheako Millennial body counts are actually low compared to Gen X. They're having significantly less in general
first 15 minutes destiny was thinking "am i looking in a mirror?"
16:12 is an exact answer he's given dozens of times lol
I do not believe her AT ALL when she says that she is an incel. That's 100% cap.
What a calming yet interesting conversations 😊
Andrew Tate has never said anything of useful substance, that you could find in another corner of the massive internet. Imo, his supporters are wasting time and their lives at their expense. Touch grass and don't hit women
right
I think Kidology should have pressed more with her point on sex workers, and Destiny sort of brushed it off on purpose.
There are many industries that include exploitation (of minors, low income people, etc.), and where the job takes a serious toll on your body and psyche. But none of these industries are going to sabotage when you change as domain, as much as being a sex worker. Especially a sex worker with an online presence.
Being a professional athlete/model/actor/construction worker has a great risk of exploitation and will break your body and maybe your mind. But no one will says "Hell no, I won't employ her as an accountant, she was an Olympic gymnast!".
But I can think of countless corporate business and regular people that would not hire a former sex worker. Especially when you are a sex worker that is present online. And things live online forever, even if it's a stupid OnlyFans that you toyed with in your early 20s, it can bite you in the ass in your 30s.
I can't imagine someone appointing a VP R&D in Intel/NVidia/ARM/Big-tech-corp who has her vagina on display all over the internet. Recruiters now search for you online during the hiring process, and running into a footage of you being rammed by 4 men and a donkey is not going to increase your chances to land a job in a different sector.
People are not progressive. They have negative views on sex workers and former sex workers. Being a sex worker, especially female, is a dead-end in terms of your career. When you get older, you either become a porn producer, or you survive on benefits. Getting out of the sex worker hole is near impossible, and this is why it's not really a profession we should encourage young people to peruse.
Then maybe women shouldn’t go into sex work 🤔 I am the LEAST bit interested in changing how I see sex work.
Why don’t you change? 😂😂
@@Macheako First, it's not about women. It's about young people in general being seduced into a very a problematic path. You do realize the men who do sex work are also going to face similar consequences?
I don't see Credit Suisse employing a guy, who when customers search for his name, they get to see his dick online.
Second, "Why don’t you change?" - nowhere did I say I engage in sex work or support it. My last sentence is literally "this is why it's not really a profession we should encourage young people to peruse.".
By your response, you seem to have some serious issues with women. Why don't you start with working on yourself before suggesting others should change?
how can you be smoking hot and still believe you're an incel
Relax, you’re exaggerating how attractive she is.
@@AudaciousBourgeois just cause you don’t find her attractive doesn’t mean she isn’t attractive
Bro why are you in every comment saying this nonsense. Said it before I'll say it again, she is attractive. The comments seem overwhelmingly to agree, and most commenters are straight men stats-wise. So...
idk ask Elliot Roger....
@@Laura-oe2dl good example, actually. The only way someone like her would be incel is if they're absolutely socially repugnant and a walking red flag. Kid doesn't give that energy.
Destiny: you're British
This girl: I'm South African
But to be fair... she is both, even though her accent is SA.
She told him multiple times before after and during that she lives in the uk and has for a while.
@@dylansevitt she was born in England too. then moved to SA and came back. She is British for sure!
@@noomade I’m pretty sure she was born in South Africa as she doesn’t have a British passport. She only moved to the UK at age 16
@@YourEverydaySheep you are pretty sure are you?
The fact that she would have a British passport by now not withstanding...
Kidology brought me here and so far the convo is interesting as we get 10mins in. I like the questions Destiny is asking and Kid is only confirming what I suspected about FD's silliness. At 10:30:00 Destiny summed it up really well. For example, some of the most elaborate and insidious forms of racism to be experienced by minorities in social settings can be from so called Leftists in my experience. They can be in such denial or else conceal their own wonky politics but are apt to sermonise and virtue signal endlessly. It is the wacked out lefty liberal types who have the gaul to attempt to lecture minorities on how to think and live and oerceive their own circumstances. Such types will actually claim moral superiority over you and feel only they have the key to freedom and righteous living lol. I had one such type attempt to lecture and berate me about my use of Mcafee anti-virus and consumption of a Nestle product. They more or less said I was betraying my race and killing people in Africa, with a straight face. When I told this friend, you do realise this is how these companies operate? They exploit poor producers in the developing world all over the globe to maximise profits and so by rights we ought to stop using the vast majority of consumer products on the shelves. I explained that convenience, affordability and using my available resources to make life comfortable comes first and that my friend was in fact ill-informed about the depth of these issues she was trying to lecture me about.
I am British nationality and W. African ehtnic origin and lived on the continent and a few other places for significant periods. When destiny speaks of the rigidity of leftist ideology, how they are in lock step with all the key propaganda points I totally agree. When the EU was trying to reduce the price point of palm oil and its derivatives (used in everything from ready meals, to shampoo to lubricants for machinery) in order to put the squeeze on African and other producers across the tropics and I attempted to have a reasonable discussion with this friend she could not at all take on board any point I raised and I was eventually disgusted by how deep she was into the so called woke leftist ideology. Happy to lecture me about Nestle yet when I bothered to give her a solid example demonstrating how she has been lied to and groomed to believe agendas that damage the poor and could even limit their opportunities, the same poor ethnics she claimed to care about her self-righteous idignance and lecturing went into overdrive. She simply refused to take on board what I had to say. I explained that palm oil farming is a profitable and sustainable business for many poor farmers on the continent, that it is less damaging to grow this particular palm tree that is native to the tropics, that all parts of the plant can be harvested and used to produce so many useful things vs other forms of farming; that palm fruit when processed to make the thick cooking oil actually has more health benefits than basic vegetable or sunflower oil; that palm oil is a staple in Africa and increasing agriculture for it is great for many reasons: it is a hardy yet fast growing tree that takes minimal tending to; this makes it super low cost for novices to get into farming and make their own living and offers a much better route to success and financial security than so many of these fraudulent 'fair trade' deals that have been used to reduce the price point of other valuable products such as cacao, coffee etc ALL of that was lost on my friend. She refused to take any of those factors into consideration.
I had asked this friend is it better for these farmers and their families to be able to eat, afford school fees, maintaining their homes and stand on their own two feet or simply languish and hope for birdseed donations from the West when they are in dire straits? I asked her if she could at all consider what I was saying, that my belief and understanding, along with many Africans (conversant with the issue of palm oil production n sales and impact on african economies) the UK government and EU were playing up the dangers of palm oil, even hiding behind the eco agenda to get undue support for their scam, that so much of the recent campaigning was being used to rig the game and stress African producers, thereby reducing the price point even as the need for palm oil as a n ingredient in Western foods and other consumer products was rising sharply? She literally could not entertain this level of discussion. This friend had the nerve to become upset and even condescending "you ought to do better...you dont understand...you are supporting companies who are killing the people." Nothing I had to say as a member of the African group who has actually experienced the socio-economic issues she said she was so concerned about had anything to do with her POV at all, she could not even entertain a different perspective. It didnt matter that I had direct experience of seeing how palm oil is produced, that I have family in agriculture who raised themselves out of poverty through this industry, None of that counted, her cult's script took precedence. By the way this same friend revealed herself to actually be a racist wolf in sheep's clothing later on and I had to cut her off. Ask any minority in Britain, if they dare to be honest, some of the most toxic, racist and duplicitous types you can come across in any workplace or social setting are the wacky leftist liberals. I much prefer my racism upfront and no longer trust these self aggrandising woke leftie types as I have had countless experience over the years with them that have gone wrong. Obviously there is something wrong when you are dealing with individuals who are more concerned about talking the talk over walking it. I forgot to add this same friend said Joanna Lumley was right when she said that if Africa stabilises its elctricity grids and ensures continuous power for all that this is terrible as it will hurt the environment and climat concerns come first. Yup, this kind of wacky liberal would prefer Africa to be in darkness, begging bowl in hand waiting for their 'generosity' pah" What is disturbing to me is that the Left seems to now be overrun with these wacky types and while the clowns are in charge of the circus Im out!
I hope this gets corrected, but those implications were about Vaush, not about Destiny.
I think Destiny's sex takes are always his worst takes, and I think it stems from his unique relationship with sex and sexual relationships. I think it fogs over his glasses, so to speak, whereby he can't envision what the average guys relationship with sex is.
No, porn isn't actually a substitute for sex, but I do think people can end it viewing it that way, and I think Kid's points towards the end provides insight. When a guy wants to set out about having sex, they have to go and meet people in public or use a dating app. primarily, and there is a compendium of things to consider and hurdles to jump over.
SCENARIO 1: If we say that a dating app. is the path of least resistance because there's an established link with 'hook-up culture' and one night stands, the process is that you have to construct a dating profiles and make sure it appeals to the people you're hoping it appeals to (which is an ongoing job), rifle through a mountain of profiles, hope that other people match with you, try to start a conversation, hope that people respond, engage in a conversation, manage to transition that conversation into getting to meet up in person, go to meet that person in real life and hope they show up, when they do show up, hope that you can develop chemistry, hope that you can be charming enough to have someone not leave, be conscious that you don't say anything stupid or offensive that MAKES them leave, try to be assertive and transition that good time into going back to one of your places or a hotel, instigating sexual advancement, having sex, making sure that you can perform well especially if you're nervous, be conscious of their enjoyment as well as your own (if you're hoping to transition this meeting into a relationship), wonder if you're big enough - going fast or slow enough - worry if you're being attentive enough - worry if you're going to last long enough, then finish and try to handle how you're going to act afterwards.
After the fact, you have to then wonder if you were up to par, if they're going to contact you back, how long to wait to contact again, if you did anything that they could consider untoward which they might hold against you, and just generally reflect on how things went. Now if you've gotten to this stage, you've probably benefitted because you're probably going to be more confident going forward even if this tryst doesn't blossom into something more lasting. You may also be put off or traumatised depending on how things ended, or if something went wrong at any of the steps after first conversing with the partner.
And this is scenario 2:
SCENARIO 2: Open up a new tab on your browser, open a porn site, look through videos, find one you want and start watching, maybe rifle through a few videos because you don't find quite want you want, you can go as fast or slow as you want, you can look for kink videos that you likely wouldn't be able to think about with a first time partner, you finish, clean up, close the tab, delete the history if you're on a shared computer or profile and you're done.
Now - porn hasn't replaced sex, but both scenarios end the same way. You're stacking up the act of sex against EVERY OTHER ROADBLOCK or WORRY or REJECTION that can happen at ANY stage of the process when meeting someone for sex. You can get the preferable outcome of having sex and STILL feel worse after it. This thought process is simple and it's something we do in many facets of life, and it's called settling.
We settle for partners in a relationship based on someone being good ENOUGH to be in a relationship with, we settle for what we want when it comes to ambitions, such as having a dream job but needing a job that brings in income. If we're going to go on vacation, and Spain isn't available, we might settle for France if it is.
When considering sex v. porn in our minds, in many minds, we think about all of the potential negatives as well as the one big positive, and we stack those against the relative simplicity and familiarity of using porn, and if that ease and simplicity , but with a worse outcome, that being porn - can supersede the consideration of positives vs. negatives for sex, it's entirely possible that people will 'settle' for porn. Some people will do this consistently in life until they get so fraught that they make a change, some people will rarely or never 'settle' because they think or know that the positives of sex outweigh the negatives, and some people will 'settle' every single time for porn because the potential negatives of the alternative outweigh the thing they know so greatly, that they won't ever try.
That said, that still doesn't make the individual an incel. I'd say a tiny minority of people ACCURATELY fit that description. But there's probably wayyyyy more voluntarily celibate people than Destiny could possibly realise. And to re-iterate, I think that's just because of his unique relationships with sex and sexual relationships. He can iron out a lot of the potential negatives that other guys think about because it's scenarios he's been in countless times, and even the rejection or disputes might not be a big deal to him. But I do think it's an area where his experiences cloud his jugdement when it comes to his conclusions and his arguments.
Anyway tl;dr, just had to share that and I'm not great at being succinct as you can see if you miraculously made it this far.
Idk about you but when I consider my dating prospects I don’t really consider trying or expecting a chance of a first date hook up. I would concentrate on creating relationships with a longer payoff. Not sure comparing porn to hookups or other prospects is helpful. Continue to improve yourself and put yourself out there, it’s worth it.
You don't need to rely on these hypothetical anecdotes when its simply factually inaccurate that porn doesn't serve as a substitute for sex. We've studied the changing availability of porn in certain countries and found that less sexual assaults were happening as porn became more available. It also goes against biology as the exact same libido reducing chemicals are released into your brain after an orgasm regardless of what caused it. A man that just masturbated isn't even physically capable of having sex, let alone desires it anymore. But yeah like all of destiny's takes on the subject its awful and fueled by bias.
You did the tldr wrong
@@MADDcartman I'd say it compromises the drive for real life sexual relationships, it's an easy choice that can at the same time be good in a soothing filling-the-gap-way but also bad (or very bad) for different people to different degrees. That said a ban is obviously a stupid and most certainly a counterproductive measure. If we were to ban that, we might as well ban tobacco, drinking and gambling lol.
Problem is, of course, that's not actually a good risk reward evaluation, because one is hollow and shallow.
Also, tldr is for a summary. Not just a footnote. Lol.
Apolitical, an indication of being a conservative. Watching this video and others of her interactions, it becomes obvious that she is a social conservative. I find it troubling when people don’t take the effort to discover their political stances and values, especially what their identity is.
Yep, got that from the moment she started talking about that's not only that it makes people like her look extremely disingenuous. Just say what you are, not like she has anything to lose lol not to mention when she starts speaking it's clear where she lies so why hide behind apolitical? It's such a cowardice thing to do.
@@whatreallymatters571 On her channel she repeatedly states that she is currently apolitical, in that, she is not active politically/doesn't vote b/c she lives in the UK but is a South African immigrant and that she would become politically involved were she to return there. She also says that her opinion changes constantly which, given how sincerely she actually LISTENS to people, I believe. She also studied political science at Uni so it's not like she's uninterested or ignorant of politics. I don't think she's being disingenuous but since, like, NOBODY is going to interpret apolitical as meaning all of that; she should stop saying it and use other terms like 'politically interested yet uncommitted / always open to having my mind changed on issues.
Bruh I never thought. Imagine bring destinies son in 13 years and getting into an argument with him as your dad
She carries herself with alot of grace. A very attractive trait to have as a woman.
Yeah, she strikes me as naturally alluring. Also very intelligent. Pretty cool.
@@lolwtfbbq111 She probably grew up in a safe environment. Hate how people bring up grace but not factor how environment determines that. You will find way more graceful black women if people didn't actively bring harm to them
@@suzygirl1843😮
@@suzygirl1843 Nobody disputes what you are saying. The way she was raised by her parents and environment shaped her to become the way she is, ofcourse. I'm just saying the way she carries herself is attractive. That's all.
What about as a man?
The urgency she is talking about is anxiety about their existence, an obsessive compulsion to violently organize everything towards their emotional and physical satisfaction.
Every time someone brings up the argument that the decision whether or not it is in a childs best interest to go on medication that will alter their life forever should be left to the authorities, such as a board or singular professionals being consulted, i see a lot of anger and vitriol being thrown towards people that demand we use utmost caution in selecting the people we equip with all the authority but no responsibility.
Often the urgency and a general percieved threat towards trans lives is given as justification for this.
Just remember, you want to trust in the SAME safeguards, systems of vetting and bodies of authority, aka the same pushers and lobbyists that got you into the ongoing opiod epidemic. I'd like to think that alone would warrant caution.
Her saying she's an incel is cultural appropriation fr
Been waiting for this one for a while!
Porn doesn't need to be a full substitute for sex in order to affect a person's sex drive. It sounds like Destiny is reframing kidology's (and Aba's I guess)? position to be more absolute than it is. The general idea is not that men would rather have porn than sex all else being equal; but rather that easily accessible, ubiquitous porn lowers men's drive in general, affecting numerous things including their urgency in finding sexual partners.
Shes stealing incel Valor. Feel like its bad faith. Id bet she could sleep with half the streamers if she wanted to. She jist doesn't want to. Not an incel
She genuinely believes they wouldn't want her.
@@EvolianTiger if she is an incel than at least 50% of women are incels because she is in the middle percentile of attractiveness for sure.
@@EvolianTiger She is not incel.She just have high standards
“I’m an involuntary celibate”
*looks at phone screen*
Has she ever seen a mirror? JUST WALK OUT THE DOOR?
Yeah. That's not how it works for dark skinned women.
That’s a lie. Even if someone won’t date you because your race, men in particular would still have sex with you if they find you attractive.
@@bunchielove6893 Depending on where she lives, it might be the case that she has a harder time finding men than other races, but overall I don’t see it getting to the point where she can call herself an involuntary celibate.
@@bunchielove6893 If she lived in NYC, she would have zero issues finding potential partners
This is one of my favorite of your videos this week. Maybe because of the lack of yelling. 😂
lovely discussion
She's wonderful, have her on more!
The puberty blockers debate is a weird one to me. As a straight man who wanted to be a girl and asked everyone around him to call him Tina between the ages of 4 and 12, I am glad that my parents let nature take its course and didn't put me on puberty blockers. However, I can understand where someone who continued to want to be the other gender after puberty would be put in a tough spot not getting access to puberty blockers. It is a double edged sword so to speak, because giving them puberty blockers could help or destroy their lives. While not giving them puberty blockers could help or destroy their lives. I don't think there really is any winning when it comes to this because you don't know what the future will hold and you can't determine if it is a "phase" the child is going through or if they are actually trans.
@@testcase6997 but how would you know which side that is? I would say it would have been pretty harmful to myself and other kids in my situation to be put on puberty blockers. You can't take either back. My point is that it's a lose/lose situation because we don't have the ability to see the future. We also don't have enough data from either side to know which decision would cause the most harm.
As a gay woman same. I didn’t necessarily want to be a man I just didn’t want the issues that came with being a woman. I wanted to chop off my boobs and get my uterus taken out (sometimes I still do). Glad my parents didn’t listen to me all throughout middle school lol
You were brainwashed into hating your true gender identity
That was A LOT of measured vulnerability there from kido. Respect to her for talking about her mom. That was an ooof. Nothing wrong with that but it's nice of her to be transparent about how that maybe affected her life.
I feel like Destiny wants to add her to the harem.
I really enjoy kidology's poise and demeanor, and how she analyzes various topics.
I think the only thing i felt was sort of in bad faith was her shifting of the term “incel.” I don’t think she’s silly enough to really buy her claimed understanding of the term. Probably in other conversations it allows her to pivot.
I really enjoy hearing Destiny speak and hearing his thought process.. his thoughts seems more realistic and critically thought out and I love that for anyone thinking critically and not emotional
24:41 I wonder why we don't try the 'hey let's wait and see' strategy with more nuerodivergencies with a high suicidality rate in regard to treatment 🤔
i met my husband online through a forum for a mutual hobby lol, almost 10 years ago. moved some states over and now we own a house, car, etc.
26 years old and im so glad im lucky enough to not have to deal with todays dating shit like it looks soooo miserable. i work with a 21y/o who is nice and wholesome but she wont shut the fuck up about her 5 fuckbuddies who all have cute nicknames, like this shit is so bizarre
*and on that "kid seeing his mum on pornhub, uploaded 8 years ago" looool i thought about this so many times as a kid, like where would this all be when im all grown up? what is NOW going to look like THEN. ig it just comes from being on the internet since elementary and watching it all change so fast.
dang i made myself real sad i miss old times
oh great, no gaming footage, that stuff is so distracting
hope!
I enjoyed this video.
Honestly as a blk woman i can see how she can ended up thinking how she thinks regarding dating etc. I wouldve thought i was a femcel too if i didnt just get on a dating app and just meet people. I feel like in SOME spaces, not all, that blk women are a little lower on the dating market so maybe she just needs to just go out more instead of feeling like she cant find someone. I ended up meeting my bf online. Sex can turn into relationships too and it happens for many. Some go on tinder and it starts as friends with benefits then something else. I dont see that coming from tinder as a bad thing
If you’re competing against white women in a WHiTE majority location….come on, sis
I’m SURE white women get treated a different way than black women in a black majority town….ya gotta factor this stuff in 😕
You didn't get her point
@@countessofmontecristo3849 I have seen some hot black women.But they tend to have latino facial features
@@Blackpill149 latino isn’t a race. I think you mean European or mixed
@@Findmy_Way-Home I was talking about dark skin latina's
I actually disagree with Destiny's take on men prefering sex over porn, but not in a general sense, just in my case.
i'm actually demisexual and i feel like shit when i have sex or even make out with someone i don't have feelings for, so much to the point that i just rather jerk off, but i know that's not the case for 99.9% of men
Woman's Name (so original 😂😂)
actually I'd really like to see her have a conversation with Vowsh
I like how she had to redefine what sex was to label herself an incel.
If someone asked dudes the question about having sex with them in a hotel room, I have to imagine a large % of them would assume your going to kill them or rob them and say no.
worth the risk
@@jonathanard7885 No
So? Men do dumb stuff for sex….
I believe porn can be a substitute for sex. Is it identical? No. It's like how cheap fast-food can be a substitute to going to a decent restaurant. Porn can reduce the desire for sex in the same way that a fast food place can reduce the amount of people going to a decent restaurant. Porn doesn't fulfill certain needs like it doesn't reduce loneliness. That's why Destiny's argument at the very end falls flat. He thinks that "porn can substitute for sex" means that "it fulfills ALL the same needs", which isn't the argument being made.
She's bassicly a conservative hiding her power lvl's lol
I think porn has become more of a substitute but I would say the idea that it's harder for men to talk to women stimulates more from lack of confidence. Think there has been no text on small penis anxiety which plays a predominant factor in confidence when approaching sex for men until porn came to light in a mainstream way.
There are many doctors, and clinical psychologist that can attest to this. I think we've come to a point where we're seeing the neurological effects on the brain when people use sex and porn to cope. Casual sex and casual porn use can be good for people without trauma but like addicts in any sense it can become an impairment to their psychological functions if used as a means to run away from issues. Regardless the dissassociation between intimacy and sex is a hard and difficult phenomenon for most people to grasp and can cause issues in LTRs.