God it’s insane how delusional some of the people you talk to are… she really didn’t want to engage with that quote that Tate OBVIOUSLY said as he did many other similar things. God it makes me crazy you must be going crazy destiny..
@@mangohavoc6428 is insane how delusional some of the people are thinking that if you say in internet that you are a pimp, a millionare or a bird automatically thats the truth . We live in a foolish era.
@@EthanThomas33 He just has a problem with men and women being different, any real women out there would tell you this, women want a man totally different than they are, not a feminine male, and men obviously want the feminine women, this truly isn't that hard to figure out, nature will tell you.
She also says, women shouldn't work either. So basically be broke and poor, and wait for a billionaire to give you money because men who make 85k or less are mediocre
It’s funny bc she fails to realize that society would cease to function if every one made $85000+ Making an average salary is not mediocrity, in fact average people are the only reason rich people can exist. Average workers are the literal most important part of our society. And imagine if all women left the workforce. It’d be a nightmare.
To show how unhinged she is, median household income is 70K and thats typically 2+ person income, making 85K on your own puts you at about three times the median income level for someone in the US. This princess wants someone that makes three times the typical dude and in exchange, you hear your screech all day about mediocrity online
There is NO shot Jedidiah grew up poor like she claims. Anyone who thinks 85k isn't an amazing life in 90% of the country has never been poor or is extremely bad faith. Oh wait she used examples of New York like Manhattan, and Miami. That confirms how bad faith she is.
> Oh wait she used examples of New York like Manhattan, and Miami. That confirms how bad faith she is I think those are the places _she_ goes to. I think she just has no idea how normal people live or what a normal budget looks like. It's an argument from sheltered ignorance.
$85K is a great life in most of the country if you're single. If youre the sole breadwinner for a wife and two kids, $85K will not be "amazing" in most of the country.
@@DavidJones-ot8qu Sure but in her defense, the argument is whether making more than $85K will make you happy. And I can tell you from experience it will. I'd say the threshold is more like $150-200K for a family, where making more money wont make you happier (in an average COL area)
@@TonyCox1351 Fax. I’m in an extremely privileged position to make 70k, with a paid off car, $1000 per month house payment (went half/half with parents to avoid mortgage), and insurance through my employer. As a single guy, even I can barely manage to put away an extra $1000 per month. I’m comfortable, but only because I am gainfully employed and live within my means. Any deviation from that, and shit gets dicey.
As a center right person this lady makes me want to bash my face into a wall. Her inability to engage with destinys sound, rational, LOGICAL arguments is infuriating. Destiny has way more patience than he gets credit for. I would have been cussing her out and calling her every name in the book after the 3rd time she said "If they had something they would have charged him"
Same. I can’t even describe myself as traditional or conservative because of ppl like her when I’m actually both of those things but actually, not their version of it.
Calling women that like to stay at home "bang maids" is one of the worst takes I've ever heard from Destiny. How can he be so demeaning to women that like to raise their children and stay at home? Why does he assume that they are air headed bimbos with nothing to do with their lives? Wasn't the feminist movement about choice and NOT judging? Yet here he is judging them for their choices. At least in so far I agree with her.
@@EbonyPope He's not calling the women bang maids, he's saying the expectation the men have of demanding a woman like that is motivated by wanting someone they can consider, or treat like, or expect to behave like, that.
Im glad this woman has never been abused, but it shows her lack of knowledge regarding abuse victims and their behavior. I was abused for 4 years and I constantly defended my abuser. I protected him because I thought I was in love. Thats not uncommon for people who were abused.
I didn't realise I was abused/raped until 9 years later. I even did the classic coping thing having a relationship with him just to feel like I got control Back. PS: on the other end: it might be an indicator of her being abused or having been abused and not working through it. 'i wasn't raped, I didn't screem' 'i wasn't hit, it was just a slap' 'i didn't experience violence, the person was justified'
@@Chiamarx youre right she could definitely be repressing, but regardless this mindset is sad and dangerous. Im sorry you went through that. I hope you have healed and if you ever need to talk im here ❤️
@@genesisjordan2440 absolutely but to me it is sad because it either is selfprotection and denial because of trauma or just lack of education and empathy. Both to me is sad and I pity her more than feel snger
@@Chiamarx if she is repressing then i do feel pity, but if she understands what she is doing just to try and justify this horrid guy’s behavior is disgusting. Its hard to figure out which just because she says it so confidently.
@@genesisjordan2440 it is very kind of you to give me this opportunity. It took another 3 years to come to a better place, but that is because my situation was more about taking advantage of a person needing a place to sleep after a car crash (no injury due to luck) than force. Which is why I still struggle to have people acknowledge it as rape, myself included. But I'm getting there and have professional help.
@@CoachDitka Right??? I make 55k a year and I’m happy af. Sure, I’ll make more as I get older and maybe it’ll make me happier. However, acting like not having a six figure income is the main cause of unhappiness is exactly the type of brain rot that makes you ultra-depressed
@@Might.B.Housey_ exactly. The fact that she refuses to acknowledge Destiny's point about excess salary not equating happiness is insane and shows how disconnected she is - it's a real economic term "diminishing marginal utility" and the consensus is around 75k
how could a woman be so hypocritical? "women shouldn't work and should stay home" Also, "women should not strive for mediocrity because money is important" meanwhile, she's working.
It's so weird. She acts like the best part of her life was when she exited the workforce and was a housewife, but then she goes off and joins the workforce again? That sounds like the dumbest thing ever. If I found something that was simply a net gain for me and my family I don't think I would ever think "I want to go do the thing that I know will make me less fulfilled again."
just listening to her you realize she's not a conservative, she's a reactionary. whatevery the "establishment" wants, she's going to say the opposite. if "woke math" came out tomorrow and said "2+2=4", I wouldn't put it past them to deny it.
It's more about defending people's freedom to decide "Oh...you're not actually in love? You just want me to work for you? How much? Hummm...i can actually forgive you and do business with you". I don't think the sex industry is a good industry, but i think an adult should be responsible for his decisions. You should be free to work to a guy. Even if he first lied to you. Otherwise what? Should it be a crime if a girl goes out with a guy that tells her he wants a serious relationship but actually just wants to fuck? Why don't we just let people live their lives and decides what's acceptable to them? Why do you have to decide on my behalf that nobody can lie to me? Why? What if i'm ok with that? Are you really that concerned about me? Are you really that concerned about those girls? I bet you wouldn't pay their bills. So how concern are you, really?
@@henriklarssen1331 Pro Russia talk makes somewhat sense though because America is the one using Ukraine as proxy to provoke Russia in the first place. The CIA got their hands all over Eastern Europe trying to get Russia to start WW3 and make them look like the bad guys in the narrative.
“The women were drinking an partying in the house so Tate has to be innocent of trafficking them” is one of the most ignorant arguments Ive heard yet. Right up there with “Tate was targeted cause he’s black” and “it’s just the matrix framing poor ole Tate” 😂 I can’t make these up. these conservatives will say anything.
it is always so mind baffling to me how absolutely common sense Destinys opinions are and still hes considered "edgy" and people disagree with him so much
It's not baffling to me that idiots believe in the obviously easily proven false claims destiny makes. The world is full of morons. He literally judged an idea based upon its abuse. Evidently, an ahole quote proves that person committed a crime. Lol. Only brain damaged Neanderthals do that.
Eh, depends on which topic for opinions. His freedom of speech takes and gun ownership are wild. guns became the #1 cause of death for children overtaking our cancerous car culture. He still doesn't want to regulate guns out of existence because he finds them fun to use.
These kind of “redpill” women are pretty gross. Talking crap about women trying to do what they themselves have done. They have successful careers outside of just being a housewife and if they lived their lives the way the redpill ideology suggests, no one would know who they are cause they would be at home with the kids keeping house.
I also think that those women forgot that you can never divorce or move away from your abuser if you rely on him for financial support. Its crazy how they only think in a low confidence man needs, how about men learning not putting all their worth on dominating women and starting with being a better person, why do women need to lower their abilities on getting education and making money? What is wrong with a confident woman? Or is it easier and less work for men to just tell women don't excel so men can feel powerful? sorry being a womb and a maid isn't good enough for most women, and we need to excel in life too. So men if you base all your existence on providing/ protecting/ dominating relationships, then you better start looking for other things to do in this world because that is kinda boring, start to really work on yourself and your spirit because you are low value if you don't think outside of a box.
He hasn't been charged with sex trafficking. Working for a guy in the sex industry does not qualify as sex trafficking. A guy getting close to you by pretending to be interested in you in order to then convince you more easily to work for him is also not sex trafficking. That's not the definition of sex trafficking anywhere in the world. There needs to be at least fraud in place to be trafficking. You need to be moved to another country under the illusion you are going there to do something else. Whether or not that happened, we don't know. If he goes out with a girl and then asks her to work for him, that's not trafficking.
It’s truly sad and depressing but the reason why she thinks this way is probably because she thinks she her daughters are sophisticated enough to avoid such situations or not to put themselves in situations such as these.
Another instance of a "masculine" (read: successful, ambitious, capable, charismatic, and persuasive) woman who thinks women shouldn't be masculine. Always jarring.
She’s highly educated, went to multiple colleges, worked at a college, dated around, got married late, lives in NYC, she’s practically a liberal. Bet she’s triple boosted
I think the adjectives OP chose were fine in spirit, but I think they meant stuff like "loud, assertive, aggressive, strong leader, confident", which are all opposites of classically feminine traits like "demure, quiet, agreeable" Can you engage with what OP said now?
@@pokingHali What do you mean? I just took issue with the statement that being capable, charismatic and persuasive is considered masculine by anyone. I don't object to Jedediah being called masculine.
@@TheRedHaze3 that just follows naturally from the conservative idea of men having to be proactive, strong leaders while women should be silent and pretty to look at. In that world it´s clear why any form of active capability would be considered masculine.
For Tate debates, Destiny needs a massive checklist visual aid for what is sex traficking. Show them the law and get them to agree on the criteria and then debate each point. Once they agree on something, it gets ticked. Eventually you'll have all the points ticked and they'll look like the hack that they are trying to say 'no but' in front of a giant checklist filled with green ticks
The second hand embarressment I got from this woman claiming to know how abused women behaved while waving away all woman that claims abuse and highlighted the ones who say they werent.. its unreal.
I feel like it's a similar case to when you have middle class black people that claim racism doesn't exist at all anymore because they've never seen it happen.
They never understand the contradiction of “let’s wait and see if he’s guilty” while simultaneously insisting he’s not guilty before evidence is brought forth
@@MrNewVegas2281 being held in prison for an abnormally long time without enough evidence to actually indict is the problem here. If you're not charged, you're innocent. How it needs to be.
Biased Skepticism. When it's [unfavorable position] it's "WELL let's just wait and see hmmmmm?" When it's [favorable position] it's "see they coughed twice while admitting to rape and murder, that shows coercion to admit guilt!".
@@99sins all the while that's exactly what all you guys are doing lol. Innocent until proven guilty is absolute but none of you want to acknowledge that for Tate.
This is Destiny at his best. He's done his homework and he is fully justified arguing in an aggressive manner. Empathetic Destiny has a time and a place but when he goes up against these disingenuous, ideologically compromised people who bring no arguments to the table, it's no holds barred and i think it's a glorious thing to behold
The fact that she thinks having a healthy relationship, having a loving family, having a meaningful vocation, having a supportive community, having committed friendships is mediocrity just... I can't actually believe she believes that, she has to be just trying to score political points.
You cant have this things without being successful, people and community wont go out their way to befriend you and respect you if they dont look up to your success, ask broke lonely men why they are isolated lol.
I think the exact same thing except about Destiny. He literally just called all stay at home moms worthless bang maids that contribute nothing. Are you kidding me?
She is absolutely horrible at listening to anybody else's talk. The worst type of people to talk to are people who start speaking 3 words into your sentence and do it consistently for the whole conversation. It's just painful and it's like. Why would you listen to anything they do they just want to hear themselves talk
not really hear themselves talk as much as you are just a face to bounce the same 5 talking points off of. You only exist to legitimize the narrative they need to believe just by being there.
She’s a complete grifter and she is not intelligent. Dumb people with knowledge and high entitlement are the most dangerous members of society. AKA narcissists
@@samselah that's exactly right. There is not a single one of these trad females on that red pill movement isn't benefitting from feminism. They are all the complete opposite of what they preach.
It's a math equation to her. He gets a plus 10 for the positive things he says that helps young men and gets a negative 4 for the vile ways he refers to women as his property and so he ends up with a plus 6 overall. As if that is how you measure morality.
This!!! I can't believe she worked in the TV industry. What the heck was she qualified to do? She said she got her Masters in a year.... I'm wondering what her degree is in.
She's fucking clueless or a blatant liar. For example, I don't believe for a second that she actually grew up poor. No one who grew up poor would label an 85k salary as "mediocrity."
@@benjaminagostini8 Exactly. All you have to do is a google search and some quick math. If she grew up poor on staten island in the late 70s and 80s, if you had a 2 parent household making 45k a year(if we do the math for inflation) you were doing pretty well. 85k a year back then put you basically as rich, a part of the 1%, not 10% and you were in the richest areas of the city. 85k a year now even in 2023 puts you 30k over the national median(which is a whole ass fulltime job for most americans), and for MOST CITIES in MOST STATES, you are living fine. There is a reason that everytime destiny talks to uninformed people, on the left and right, they always go to these wildly high cost of living areas of the country, and completely ignore the other 99%, because who would ever not just live in a major city. Its the most snooty shit ever, and they literally dont ever hear themselves.
I think those people got standard family life way out of control, lol all those people saying become this and that supposed to help regular man if most of those women around me wait for a man to take care of them , they will have to make that 80k and they wouldn't be able to do it in most cases. Lets just be truthful without love more men would be single and sad than we have nowadays, good for women that fall in love with those low income guys , Jesus Christ, those people are out of their mind, the only way to survive and most people to have relationship is to have compassion and work together not way for one or the other to do all work, house work or outside work. Also i think its dumb to have all those women pay for university education and not use it towards their career or towards the better of their society, and also if they work then the husband needs to do housework.
This convo proves destiny is a masochist. Jebediah does not listen. She only wants to peddle nonsense but Destiny engages her anyway. Maybe he knows she is not acting in good faith I don't know but having a conversation with her is pointless.
I think the conversation is for her audience not her, I don't think he has any illusion that she's gonna change any of her positions but he might slightly sway some of her audience
“85k is mediocre” “It isn’t.” “It depends on the life you want.” This woman will squawk up and down about how correct she is and when she’s called out on it she says “it depends on the person” even when her initial statements have nothing to do with personal preference, they’re just outright wrong.
@@stanleyelnats yes it is. I’m gonna assume you don’t even know how much you make in a year. That’s almost the top 1% of America (anything past 100k a year is in the 1%) yes you can survive, you can’t go vacation in Dubai but that’s more than enough money.
The amount of people Destiny has spoken to who think sex trafficking requires some agent LITERALLY holding a gun to someone's head for it to be considered such, is getting pretty dumb at this point.
Ill Grant you that the supporters did a poor job of explaining the situation,, but every interview I saw with Destiny regarding the Tate's was intellectually dishonest. He is constantly conflating the fact that the Tate's ran a web cam business 5 years ago with the complaints. He is so blinded by his desire to see the Tate's convicted that he is misleading his followers with false claims.
My personal problem with a lot of these kinds of conversations is the person makes the worst claims with zero evidence, demands Destiny provides the evidence for his claims, then refuses to engage with his point or even begin to give ground on their position even when it's so incredibly clear they have no legs to stand on.
@ali24B It also lies on her. She's the one claiming they have no proof or the proof seems inconclusive for Tate's arrest/holding. She's the one trying to claim the legal process seems corrupt, yet she couldn't begin to explain why it's corrupt.
OMG. It’s beyond frustrating to witness women like this totally refuse to accept the blatant reality of Tate being a trafficker. I cannot understand it. I truly think she’s basing her opinion on how sex trafficking is portrayed in movies from 20 years ago.
It's the same with conservatives and rape. They can only picture back alley poundings and don't seem to mind coercion. Then they say rape culture doesn't exist. Blows my mind.
What do you mean - everybody knows sex trafficking ONLY happens if a woman is held in a cage and only let out to be chained to a bed where strangers run a train on her. I am so smart, i know exactly how world works. Tate did nothing wrong. /s
This lady got dragged on the Tate case, Destiny was actually informing her of how legal proceedings function, basically giving her a play by play, presenting her with statements by Tate himself, and she just kept circling back to “but why not charge him yet, he’s being held under arrest, it isn’t fair” good lord, sometimes when you don’t have enough information it’s not worth having an opinion.
Destiny neglects his child, plays video games, and argues on the internet. Hes a literal teenager in an adult body. Sure he’s smart, but he has no clue about a normal healthy relationship.
@@picklespickle1641 firstly, it’s you’re*, dumb peasant, secondly i earn more than that. Thirdly, you just revealed yourself to be as stupid as her.. as if all lifestyles, demographics and area codes have an equal price… Go watch some more Jed videos to rot your rotten brain some more
@@phantasticmrphasma9874 You think i care about proper grammar on a youtube comment section? And no dumbass 80k a year is not enough in most states to raise a family comfortably especially if the woman doesn’t work. You would be fine but you would not have freedom and you would have budget. If you make more than that you should go but some education. And get destiny and his nuts out your mouth.
@@TonyCox1351 this is insane, i question if ur a dad, or at the least, if ur actually in an average cost area. not only would 85k put u easily on track to retire fairly comfortably at age 65, but some of the costs u listed fade after age 10 of a child. stop fibbing u goober
@Tony how the fuck is 7 grand USD not enough to support 3 people.... either where you live has absurd cost of living, or you're terrible at budgeting. You should honestly talk to a banker or somthing to get your stuff figured out. There's no way 7 grand a month shouldn't be enough for you and your boys to live a good life.
@@TonyCox1351 bro, u have a fucking cleaner, which i’m sure helps, but is entirely unnecessary for ur life. not only this, but the suggestion that u can’t live off of 62k a year is fucking WIIIILD. unless u got taken for a ride on your house and car payments, u should be fine on that amount of money. are u actually suggesting, minus the costs you already mentioned, you’ll blow through 5k in a month ? i question ur ability to save if this is the case. maybe it’s time to sit down and evaluate entertainment expenses my friend
It’s absolutely crazy that she is sitting here preaching about the benefits of being a traditional woman while she is exhibiting and doing exactly what men consider to be masculine. She’s talking about being a stay at home mom for a year! And how fulfilling it was. 😂 absolutely a hypocrite 😂😂😂
It’s warping my mind. She wants to berate successful women into being “traditional” but has to simultaneously defend her leading a very feminist life and career. And somehow it’s not even the dumbest part of her argument. 😂
I guarantee you if she’s not currently earning more than her husband she has certainly in the past. Her husband is much younger than she is and isn’t involved in this lucrative business
She’s delusional 😂 She brings up the Tate topic and can’t back up any facts then contradicts herself, it’s frustrating. Then her talking about abuse victims and has no clue what she is talking about 🤯
"Why do you think Tate is a sex trafficker?" *Reads off an exact quote from Tates own website of his own course "No no that tells me nothing. I don't know the context of that" "It's his website we can literally pull it up right now" "I don't want some quotes out of context" I truly...... Truly.....despise this person. Holy fuuuuuu
There’s literally nothing in that quote that equates to sex trafficking tho he hired a bunch of women he was dating to work for his webcam company like honestly so freaking what ? LOL webcam isn’t prostitution it’s a legal business
@@youngali505 Sexual exploitation does not require prostitution. Sex Trafficking is "Illegally transporting people from one country to another for the purpose of sexual exploitation". Sexual Exploitation can be prositution, but it also includes things like: Exotic Dancing, being a masseuse, being a cam girl). For Sex Trafficking: "victims are generally put in contact with the perpetrator through shared friends or common acquaintances, sometimes on social media or elsewhere on the Internet. Some perpetrators also approach young people directly in bars, malls or outside of schools or youth centres. At first, they do not present as someone who will exploit the young people they approach. Instead, perpetrators seduce, are generous with (gifts, free drugs, trips, etc.) and protective over their victim. Later, once the victim is in love with or dependant on the perpetrator (for their affection, connections with a group, money, drugs, social status, etc.), the perpetrator can manipulate and push, meaning force, the victim into offering sexual services" - Quebec govt website
@@CFIREKytb yeah but none of what you said fits the description first of all none of victims did webcam he was arrested for forcing girls to do tiktok and onlyfans secondly one of the victims who is pressing charges went to Tate house in a suitcase and asked if she could lived there ( that’s not luring) LOL then Tate kicked her out cuz she was prostituting in his house looool yall don’t even read the goddam WhatsApp and case files you just read a criminal headline and feed yourself with destiny lying narrative. How the hell you gone say Tate is guilty when he literally cut the victim off for prostituting 😂😂😂 anyone with damn sense knows the courts is corrupt as Fuck and Tate is likely innocent
For a woman who is against the modern woman she uses the same tactics. Destiny says "for most people" Her " but that isn't true for this tiny percentage of people"
Had a baby late and chased money and went to school. Wow it's almost as of generally this is a good and safe way for women to make money . Ben Shipro literally says it all that time about having a baby too soon, and not going to school is one of the biggest reasons why people broke and she literally didn't do that haha. She's what 44 and her kid is half the age of Steven's. She in every way is the women that she says is bad .
Isn’t she an example of not a woman that she wants other women to be? She seems like she’d be making a lot of money, not a stay at home mom just making dinner for her husband, yet she’s saying other women should be?
@@clev5678 She got her masters at columbia and landed pretty big tv jobs. She spent her twenties putting more time into her career than most men. Its a blatant contradiction but what good is a conscious when you can cash out those red pill checks.
@@clev5678 So she does zero prep work? Zero research? Zero pre production? Just shows up for an hour and wings it, dials in from home and doesnt have a commute.... nah id venture to guess she works a lot more than 3 hours a week. But doesnt want to admit that because its very masculine.
Yep. That’s exactly what she is saying. She ALSO said that money makes you happier but women should prioritize being a mother over career. She’s full of contradictions.
I think all choices a woman chooses be it SAHM and wife of podcast commentator should be accepted and not trashed. They should say how pleasant being SAHM is without making the other side of working moms or working non moms, sound miserable and selfish !
Am I the only one who is baffled by this ladies inability to understand what I believe to be obvious logic presented by Destiny regarding the Tate case? What's worse is Destiny is completely willing to accept a non-guilty verdict if that happens to be the outcome. Am I crazy?
Her ego is so big that she’s not willing to look at other point of view. Facts . She wants to do debate to prove a point, not to learn some thing. 85,000 a year is not mediocre. It’s mediocre in her eyes and where she lives, 95% of the population can live off of that. And that is a no it’s not, look at the stats figure out the cost of living in each state, compare it to the current household income and then make a decision. She’s basing it off Manhattan.😂
"People shouldn't be content with mediocrity"? Definitionally half the world is below average in whatever category you choose, being average or mediocre or whatever is *_fine_*
Yeah, I think you should really be seeking people who are exceptional in things that you value, instead of being exceptional for things like yearly income. Everyone is kinda special in their own way.
You should drive to have more than just 'fine' in any category though. Like money is one thing, but you also shouldn't just settle for just an okay relationship in your marriage either for example.
@@Matt-dn5jcthere's a difference between excelling in one category and _every_ category though, specialising is great and to be encouraged of course, find what you're good at or enjoy and perfect those skills, but trying to become a paragon of virtue and Ubermensch is a ridiculous moonshot destined to fall short, being average at most things in life is not failing at life is my point
It's really strange how this theme of "the average man is below average" is so common in these circles that claim to want to empower men. They literally perpetuate their idea that the average man is not good enough to be successful or happy if they aren't living an extremely extravagant and materialistic lifestyle, while also claiming to be religious and spiritual. It's like they don't even know what they themselves want or believe.
I literally have an existential crisis whenever I watch these kinda videos... How tf to these people actually exist their argument is literally being dismantled in front of them but they continue believing in their ideology. It's actually bordering on religious belief
It’s ego and any issue they are defending is in defense of their own self image. These debates aren’t really about being correct but winning and gaining security/power/status. Self actualization
What would America look like if no one worked these so called mediocre jobs. She is the best example of someone who is overpaid and over valued. These mediocre jobs are essential to the economy and infrastructure. What about the farmers where she gets her food. She is out of touch with reality.
How the fuck did she go from “the grind isn’t important, staying at home and nurturing my family is what’s most important” to “if you make 85k you’re mediocre” so quickly??
@@dspicerj Average” isn’t a good indicator of the average person’s income, as it easily swayed by outliers and doesn’t map well onto reality. The median is a better indicator and 85k is more than the median household income for 45 states out of 50. The median income for the whole country is 65k, so anything above that means you’re doing better than the average american. Also, men, just like women, get to decide whatever role they want within society, as long as it’s legal, after all isn’t that what America was founded on? The right of the individual to seek happiness and lead his life whatever way he sees fit, within legal boundaries of course. Now, let’s put statistics aside, in the hopes that I was able to pull you out of a distorted world view where somehow being middle class is considered mediocre. I couldn’t give less of a fuck what is considered average or what other people think of me, through experience I’ve learned that following other people’s dreams and society’s expectations only leads to misery, so instead I decided to pursue my own happiness, follow my own values, listen to my own instincts, emotions and thoughts and structure them in such a way that allows me both to be directed by them, and not to fall prey to the whims of whatever short term feeling I may have in a specific period. If this leads me to being rich that’s great, if it doesn’t who cares, I’m the one who gets to live my own life, so I don’t have to answer to anyone else’s expectations
Imfao right then saying you shouldn’t settle imfao I mean I won’t settle but mediocre jobs do have value however she is right about money and being a stay at home mom is in no way unfulfilling or useless it may be hard but that’s why u marry up ❤
Not to mention all of those things she mentioned had very little to do with then number of zeroes she has in her bank account and yet she gets offended if someone suggests that past a certain monetary point, if you can't find happiness , then it might not be because of the amount of money you have.
Ages 0-2 are the worst ages for a kid. The kid is absolutely helpless at that point, wakes up all night, you have to bottle feed it, change its diapers. Kids dont even start being enjoyable til 2 when they can walk and talk and play. She is either lying through her teeth or doesnt even have kids lol
What farm can even supply all her needs. Like, I know a farmer I can get eggs from, but that is all I can get from him since like 98% of other farmers his actual crops are contracted to an agricorp. It would cost you an incredible amount to have a farmer just provide you a chunk of his crops, and you would likely need multiple farmers to get all your food products. The reason we agreed on eggs is because the markup in stores is big enough me and a few neighbors could bulk purchase his eggs for more than the corp offers him but less than we pay at the store, but most products don’t have margins that big.
She’s constantly contradicts herself. She says women should be in the home but she’s not. She’s lying. She doesn’t believe the crap she says. It’s the same as all the women who do these podcasts
Average salary is like 40k. She says 80k is settling for mediocrity. Literally double what most people make. 80k is a damn decent living everywhere in the US I've lived.
It's almost like these people forget that there's a whole fuckin' world out there outside of this hyper rich utopia we live in. Sure, there's big problems here, but there's a total lack of scale when you hear materialistic people talk. How do they think so many people from poor countries end up happy even though they don't have a million thread count bed sheet?
80k a year is decent but he said it won’t make you happier past that which is a lie. At 80k you can not live in complete comfort, you will still need to budget and if you have kids it would be a bare minimum. Most car payments are 500 dollars a month for a 40 k car which the average. That’s half the salary.
@@picklespickle1641 if you’re at 80k, you could easily support prolly 2 kids in 95% of the country. Additionally, you shouldn’t be buying 40K cars. If you’re at 80K, you’re the .00001% of the world
@@joebidet3606 Absolutely not, 80k is good but to support two kids and yourself is expensive. 80k is also not 1% of the country, it’s more like 10% and maybe 15% in some places.
@@picklespickle1641 I said .0001% of the world. And is being top 10% in America not enough? What about the tens of millions of families that are able to live happily with an avg household income of 60K? I think they’re doing okay
You gotta love how the Tate case is so blatantly obvious and a slam dunk that people are blinded to it. It's a perfect case of being an educated idiot when it couldn't be more on the nose.
To these people sex trafficking is kidnapping little girls and aggressively raping them. They don’t realize that the most effective way to traffick is by making it seem like it’s their choice.
@@picklespickle1641 the answer is then they didn’t have sufficient evidence to prosecute him. Now the opposite of he gets convicted you going to finally admit he’s a sex trafficker or double down it’s all a conspiracy and the system is corrupt?
@@ChrisCoelho You still covering yourself Instead of admitting he didn’t do it if he’s found not guilty. You already have an excuse set up , it’s amazing.
There’s something ironic about a successful career woman who got married and had kids later in life lecturing everyone else about following a traditional path.
Im impressed over the blindfolds this woman has! It’s lucky clear she has never been in an abusive relationship or been abused by anyone. It’s all the same. They use punishment and lovebombing intertwined until you go around as a robot and do whatever you’re told. Smile, dance. Even go out and come back. The abuser breaks you down mentally until you believe your not worth anything and you depent on the abuser to survive. She is pissing on a lot of survivors of abuse with this attitude.
Her entire platform is dependent upon supporting conservative ideology. Tate is the most googety-googied person in the solar system so she doesn't want to alienate her core audience. Epstein and Weinstein can go to hell since they were on the other side.
19:34 never once have I given a shit about any “3 letter agency.” This woman simply lives and views things differently because she is more privileged than 99% of the population. “I buy my food directly from a farm” she shouldn’t be able to make generalizations about the average human.
I guess if you're privileged enough and you have almost no obstacles before you you'll just start inventing things to overcome no matter how fantastical they seem. Buying from a farm to spite the FDA has to be the most white conservative woman moment ever.
I don't like destiny but the things Tate has said about tricking women and getting them to be cam girls and fooling simps to pay for his university..I s enough for me to listen to his points .. Tate doesn't look good in this , guilty or not.
It’s hilarious that you don’t even realise that Tate isn’t even charged with webcam cuz that business ended 6 years ago he’s charged with making girls do tiktok and onlyfans LOL yall let destiny straight feed you misinformation
@@youngali505 That is not true if you look in the court documents, plus Tristan claimed that they increased their amount of cam girls during Covid. Covid was not 6 years ago. Maybe it was a "joke" video, but it doesn't look good.
This woman is the type of person where debates and arguments are pointless, her world view is built so heavily on her beliefs and opinions that she cannot see outside the box.
Jed says 50k a year isnt even first world? I feel like she pays $200 for ripped jeans. I bet she has never been alone in her whole life and has no idea what its like to feel you just have no one. I bet she has a huge supportive family.
12:53 When attempting to establish that 85k is not a high enough salary to be fulfilled, probably don’t say “I’ve lived in New York City for my entire life”
Does she realize how unattractive and “low value” she is to all these “high value” men she’s defending? She’s the exact opposite of what a high value women is. She’s successful, she’s opinionated and argumentative, she’s dominant, makes a lot of money, etc. it’s just weird to see her argue that she’s unattractive
@Highlightrelz I don't know what a "femoid" is but I don't think Tomi Lahren or Ann Coulter are "Social Conservatives" per say. I don't think they promote this housewife fantasy like Jedidiah, Pearl, and RadFemSapien. I'm not sure what Candance has said on this. But all of them do have masculine energy.
if she spent less time talking through someone else's main talking points, and more time trying to comprehend even half the words coming out of their mouths, this conversation would probably have been more productive.
Steve missed big on her point of "these other women say they weren't trafficked/abused"; THAT DOESN'T MATTER, if he didn't traffic/abuse those women, fine, but if you didn't murder other people but murdered another one, that doesn't bloody acquit you.
I think she thinks that his view on women combined with "work out, make money" is inspirational, but she probably doesn't think too long about the actual consequenses of his actions. She just forgets the large amount of men who are emotionally healthy and impressive, who don't bash or abuse women, that do a better job than Tate.
I'm 28, live in my own house in Greater Cleveland, OH on $50k per year and am saving lots and living comfy. If I made $80k per year (maybe within a few years after getting my degree, God willing), I'd say that's enough to have a stay-at-home wife (if that's what she wants) and start a family. This woman is so out of touch its crazy. Supposedly Christian? But it sounds like money is her god.
@@picklespickle1641 Hey! I saved up for a few years and put 20% down on my $95k house in early 2020 (was making slightly less back then), and my mortgage is $630 (was $590 before housing market boom). Before that, was paying about $800 for rent. I'm blessed to have owned my car since I was 21, my dad sold me the family 2011 Kia Soul for only $3,000 and I still drive it. When the time comes that I need a new car, I'll almost definitely buy used (I like simple cars from early/mid 2010s, cheaper and easier to maintain) from a private-seller with cash. I used to eat out and get fast food way too much, spending around $500/month on food. Recently I'm eating fairly healthy dinners at home (salmon, chicken, veggies) way more and usually drink soylent (meal replacement) for breakfast and/or lunch. Not including going out with friends for a meal once in a while, my monthly food budget is about $300.
@@c_xela 630 is insanely cheap and you seem content which is good congrats. But in most places thats pretty impossible, not to mention if you have kids.
@@picklespickle1641 Admittedly, my house is pretty small would be a little cramped with even just one kid. I think median incomes are pretty decent for living single or married though, a little more depending on family size. Ideally of course would be to have enough to be able to send kids to a good school, give them other advantages, and take nice vacations. But Jed seems to think that's wouldn't be plausible on a $100k salary, which I think is a little crazy. That's plenty of money to save for a few years for a 20% down payment on a nice house in a nice city.
Hearing the term “help mate” is driving me insane. That is not in the Bible. It’s a misquoting of the term “help meet” which is a common term in trad circles, and is ALSO not a real term. The Bible says “and she shall be a help meet for him,” the word “meet” meaning “fit.” So “a helper fit for him,” but tradcons decided to turn “help meet” into a fake term, and now Pearl and Jed are misquoting even that. It’s just such a hilariously transparent example of how lazy their tradcon grift is.
She actually thinks Andrew Tate dating “attractive women” has actual relevance as to whether or not these are valuable women some high status male should want to associate himself with. 🤦🏼♂️ Trust me, attraction is my first measure, but secondly I want a woman who”s intelligent, who values herself, her ideas, her self worth & fights for her passions & her place in our relationship. The last thing I’d ever want is some “pick me” woman like Pearl who treats me more like her father than her partner & just blindly agrees with everything I say. I want someone who fights for equality in our relationship & I want a challenge that’s on my level. I want her time & attention, but I want it with her consent & well being. Any woman that dates someone like Andrew Tate by default doesn’t have a healthy sense of self worth. His words make him not credible or someone worth taking serious & that by default makes the idiot women he associates with not worthy of being taken serious regardless of how attractive they are. Being attractive is just a prerequisite for all the important attributes that need to follow.
As soon as you have ownership tattoo, you are counted as a victim. Jebedilah should read about pimps and tattoos. And they won’t charge them because one case leads to other. When they are done with investigation, they will charge them.
Love that people are saying Romania is corrupt which is why Andrew himself chose to live there to try and take advantage of it and its backfiring so now its bad
jesus she goes from "if they had enough to charge tate, they would have charged him already." to "ok lets wait and see" without even realizing she completely flip flopped!
It's crazy how little this woman understands about law enforcement and criminal investigations. When you're building a case, you don't just jump and bring someone to court over the first thing you might get conviction with. No police officer anywhere would do that. You build a case and get as much evidence of as many different crimes as you possibly can, and investigations into organised crime are rarely wrapped in as little as 11 months.
me too; and frankly i agree with the girl in the first clip. she has these opinions because it brings male validation that she lacks because she’s fairly unattractive
I highly doubt she knows anything about the US justice system let alone the Romanian one. If she thinks a victim not labeling themselves as a victim means anything.
Yeah, seriously, in my country some people have been held up to two years before being charged, even if average street goons usually get charged within a couple weeks.
The self-aware thing to do is recognize everybody is biased, not in the sense of being wrong, but that at bottom, people have differing interests, and even if given the same set of facts, focus on different things by default.
What blows my mind is the whole “he’s a net positive” I just don’t get it, there are things he says that are “correct” or “positive” but that just leads men to trust him so he can offload all the harmful stuff he tells them too. God she’s so stupid it hurts
@@FqYIwgsiRW2MaTDc agreed. I find it so funny though that people will use the word “net” positive, because it means they do know about all the bad stuff. Truly baffling that people can just wilfully decide that sex trafficking isn’t that bad and he’s said some good things so ya know overall he’s a force for good. 😂
@@FqYIwgsiRW2MaTDc Hate to break it to you, but he was a scumbag even before this incident. The take aways that children get from watching Tate isn’t “I need to exercise and make money so that women like me” (which isn’t even a healthy mindset to begin with), it’s “Bitches are weak and money is what matters if you want to bang them”.
"Trafficking, sleeping around, r**ing and scamming isn't bad, as long as you tell men to go to the gym, man up and earn money..." There are definitely better people on the internet that men can look up to.
Also.. there's a good possibility she really enjoyed that year bc she had the option to leave a stressful worklife and be home with slightly older kids. She always had the option to return to something.. What she doesn't get is often these alpha males don't want women with options. They want women who feel their only and best option is to be a bedmate. If she can excel and make her own money.. and that is what you've built your entire personality around.. then why would she need/want you unless you just make way more than she ever could?
She's a very frustrating person to listen to, especially when someone disagrees with her. She's aggressive, shes passive aggresive, she's a little condescending, she is extremely ideological and doesnt admit it, she often conflates what she believes to be true with what IS actually true, she asserts things as true when she is clearly wrong, she often refuses to engage with the point, she rarely ever concedes even to points that have been logically laid out...😑😑😑
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I'm sorry but destiny is a bit off in this one.
God it’s insane how delusional some of the people you talk to are… she really didn’t want to engage with that quote that Tate OBVIOUSLY said as he did many other similar things. God it makes me crazy you must be going crazy destiny..
I see you put Jebediah everywhere, but her name is Jedediah.
@@mangohavoc6428 is insane how delusional some of the people are thinking that if you say in internet that you are a pimp, a millionare or a bird automatically thats the truth . We live in a foolish era.
@@EthanThomas33 He just has a problem with men and women being different, any real women out there would tell you this, women want a man totally different than they are, not a feminine male, and men obviously want the feminine women, this truly isn't that hard to figure out, nature will tell you.
“85k a year is mediocrity” okay this woman isn’t just a clown she’s the ringleader
She also says, women shouldn't work either.
So basically be broke and poor, and wait for a billionaire to give you money because men who make 85k or less are mediocre
It’s funny bc she fails to realize that society would cease to function if every one made $85000+
Making an average salary is not mediocrity, in fact average people are the only reason rich people can exist. Average workers are the literal most important part of our society. And imagine if all women left the workforce. It’d be a nightmare.
@@marketables yeah... 85k is a really high bar
To show how unhinged she is, median household income is 70K and thats typically 2+ person income, making 85K on your own puts you at about three times the median income level for someone in the US. This princess wants someone that makes three times the typical dude and in exchange, you hear your screech all day about mediocrity online
Kings and generals are nothing without workers and soldiers.
There is NO shot Jedidiah grew up poor like she claims. Anyone who thinks 85k isn't an amazing life in 90% of the country has never been poor or is extremely bad faith.
Oh wait she used examples of New York like Manhattan, and Miami. That confirms how bad faith she is.
> Oh wait she used examples of New York like Manhattan, and Miami. That confirms how bad faith she is
I think those are the places _she_ goes to. I think she just has no idea how normal people live or what a normal budget looks like. It's an argument from sheltered ignorance.
$85K is a great life in most of the country if you're single. If youre the sole breadwinner for a wife and two kids, $85K will not be "amazing" in most of the country.
@@TonyCox1351 it won’t be amazing, but it also won’t be dogshit either, ur basically just living a fairly average life atp
@@DavidJones-ot8qu Sure but in her defense, the argument is whether making more than $85K will make you happy. And I can tell you from experience it will. I'd say the threshold is more like $150-200K for a family, where making more money wont make you happier (in an average COL area)
@@TonyCox1351 Fax. I’m in an extremely privileged position to make 70k, with a paid off car, $1000 per month house payment (went half/half with parents to avoid mortgage), and insurance through my employer. As a single guy, even I can barely manage to put away an extra $1000 per month. I’m comfortable, but only because I am gainfully employed and live within my means. Any deviation from that, and shit gets dicey.
"I'm not a Tate person"
*proceeds to defend tate relentlessly*
You clearly have problems with justice
As a center right person this lady makes me want to bash my face into a wall. Her inability to engage with destinys sound, rational, LOGICAL arguments is infuriating. Destiny has way more patience than he gets credit for. I would have been cussing her out and calling her every name in the book after the 3rd time she said "If they had something they would have charged him"
Same. I can’t even describe myself as traditional or conservative because of ppl like her when I’m actually both of those things but actually, not their version of it.
Same
Absolutely! And Pearl is cut from the same cloth!
Calling women that like to stay at home "bang maids" is one of the worst takes I've ever heard from Destiny. How can he be so demeaning to women that like to raise their children and stay at home? Why does he assume that they are air headed bimbos with nothing to do with their lives? Wasn't the feminist movement about choice and NOT judging? Yet here he is judging them for their choices.
At least in so far I agree with her.
@@EbonyPope He's not calling the women bang maids, he's saying the expectation the men have of demanding a woman like that is motivated by wanting someone they can consider, or treat like, or expect to behave like, that.
Im glad this woman has never been abused, but it shows her lack of knowledge regarding abuse victims and their behavior. I was abused for 4 years and I constantly defended my abuser. I protected him because I thought I was in love. Thats not uncommon for people who were abused.
I didn't realise I was abused/raped until 9 years later. I even did the classic coping thing having a relationship with him just to feel like I got control Back.
PS: on the other end: it might be an indicator of her being abused or having been abused and not working through it. 'i wasn't raped, I didn't screem' 'i wasn't hit, it was just a slap' 'i didn't experience violence, the person was justified'
@@Chiamarx youre right she could definitely be repressing, but regardless this mindset is sad and dangerous. Im sorry you went through that. I hope you have healed and if you ever need to talk im here ❤️
@@genesisjordan2440 absolutely but to me it is sad because it either is selfprotection and denial because of trauma or just lack of education and empathy. Both to me is sad and I pity her more than feel snger
@@Chiamarx if she is repressing then i do feel pity, but if she understands what she is doing just to try and justify this horrid guy’s behavior is disgusting. Its hard to figure out which just because she says it so confidently.
@@genesisjordan2440 it is very kind of you to give me this opportunity. It took another 3 years to come to a better place, but that is because my situation was more about taking advantage of a person needing a place to sleep after a car crash (no injury due to luck) than force. Which is why I still struggle to have people acknowledge it as rape, myself included. But I'm getting there and have professional help.
Jed: *advocates for the average man*.
Also Jed: 85k a year isn't enough. 🤦♀️
Not just "isn't enough", she says it's literally the primary cause for you being deeply unhappy lmao
@@CoachDitka Right???
I make 55k a year and I’m happy af.
Sure, I’ll make more as I get older and maybe it’ll make me happier. However, acting like not having a six figure income is the main cause of unhappiness is exactly the type of brain rot that makes you ultra-depressed
Contradictions
@@Might.B.Housey_ exactly. The fact that she refuses to acknowledge Destiny's point about excess salary not equating happiness is insane and shows how disconnected she is - it's a real economic term "diminishing marginal utility" and the consensus is around 75k
@@Might.B.Housey_ that’s a decent wage, well done. Keep pushing to grow your career but remember not to sacrifice happiness to do it
how could a woman be so hypocritical?
"women shouldn't work and should stay home"
Also,
"women should not strive for mediocrity because money is important"
meanwhile, she's working.
She is a hypocrite.
It's all a grift. Candace owens says something similar while making millions of dollars.
It's so weird. She acts like the best part of her life was when she exited the workforce and was a housewife, but then she goes off and joins the workforce again? That sounds like the dumbest thing ever. If I found something that was simply a net gain for me and my family I don't think I would ever think "I want to go do the thing that I know will make me less fulfilled again."
@@luckirye The cognitive dissonance is so crazy. 😂
Don't kid urself, it's because it's easy money... like pretty much every famous or wanna be famous person wants its to be.
As an older person I just find it extremely weird that conservatives defend people involved in the sex industry
just listening to her you realize she's not a conservative, she's a reactionary. whatevery the "establishment" wants, she's going to say the opposite. if "woke math" came out tomorrow and said "2+2=4", I wouldn't put it past them to deny it.
It's more about defending people's freedom to decide "Oh...you're not actually in love? You just want me to work for you? How much? Hummm...i can actually forgive you and do business with you". I don't think the sex industry is a good industry, but i think an adult should be responsible for his decisions. You should be free to work to a guy. Even if he first lied to you. Otherwise what? Should it be a crime if a girl goes out with a guy that tells her he wants a serious relationship but actually just wants to fuck? Why don't we just let people live their lives and decides what's acceptable to them? Why do you have to decide on my behalf that nobody can lie to me? Why? What if i'm ok with that? Are you really that concerned about me? Are you really that concerned about those girls? I bet you wouldn't pay their bills. So how concern are you, really?
Iam a conservative and i dont get it either, same with the pro russia talk.
Seems like people or even groups think and act differently.
@@henriklarssen1331 Pro Russia talk makes somewhat sense though because America is the one using Ukraine as proxy to provoke Russia in the first place. The CIA got their hands all over Eastern Europe trying to get Russia to start WW3 and make them look like the bad guys in the narrative.
@@brunox3042 You okay dumb lil bro? Therapist arent that expensive.
“The women were drinking an partying in the house so Tate has to be innocent of trafficking them” is one of the most ignorant arguments Ive heard yet. Right up there with “Tate was targeted cause he’s black” and “it’s just the matrix framing poor ole Tate” 😂 I can’t make these up. these conservatives will say anything.
The definition of trafficking needs to be put out there because thats not it.
That part made me physically ill.
Idk, “Tate talks like that because he’s black and black people always talk with bravado and it’s just slang.” That was pretty bad 😂😂
@@picklespickle1641 you know its 2 clicks away on the internet right?
@@elieledouxjobin163 Yea and this aint it.
it is always so mind baffling to me how absolutely common sense Destinys opinions are and still hes considered "edgy" and people disagree with him so much
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It's not baffling to me that idiots believe in the obviously easily proven false claims destiny makes. The world is full of morons. He literally judged an idea based upon its abuse. Evidently, an ahole quote proves that person committed a crime. Lol. Only brain damaged Neanderthals do that.
Common sense is enough to have an opinion but not to be correct
@@askaelken Half of of humans (3.5 billion) and 55% of Americans. Obesity etc etc.
Eh, depends on which topic for opinions. His freedom of speech takes and gun ownership are wild.
guns became the #1 cause of death for children overtaking our cancerous car culture. He still doesn't want to regulate guns out of existence because he finds them fun to use.
These kind of “redpill” women are pretty gross. Talking crap about women trying to do what they themselves have done. They have successful careers outside of just being a housewife and if they lived their lives the way the redpill ideology suggests, no one would know who they are cause they would be at home with the kids keeping house.
I also think that those women forgot that you can never divorce or move away from your abuser if you rely on him for financial support. Its crazy how they only think in a low confidence man needs, how about men learning not putting all their worth on dominating women and starting with being a better person, why do women need to lower their abilities on getting education and making money? What is wrong with a confident woman? Or is it easier and less work for men to just tell women don't excel so men can feel powerful? sorry being a womb and a maid isn't good enough for most women, and we need to excel in life too. So men if you base all your existence on providing/ protecting/ dominating relationships, then you better start looking for other things to do in this world because that is kinda boring, start to really work on yourself and your spirit because you are low value if you don't think outside of a box.
@freddy1188
“It doesn’t take talent to grift” but it does take moral corruption
Imagine being a mother defending sex trafficking. So morally bankrupt.
He hasn't been charged with sex trafficking. Working for a guy in the sex industry does not qualify as sex trafficking. A guy getting close to you by pretending to be interested in you in order to then convince you more easily to work for him is also not sex trafficking. That's not the definition of sex trafficking anywhere in the world. There needs to be at least fraud in place to be trafficking. You need to be moved to another country under the illusion you are going there to do something else. Whether or not that happened, we don't know. If he goes out with a girl and then asks her to work for him, that's not trafficking.
It’s truly sad and depressing but the reason why she thinks this way is probably because she thinks she her daughters are sophisticated enough to avoid such situations or not to put themselves in situations such as these.
why don’t you provide us with someone evidence that proves them to be guilty then?
It's incredibly awkward... but it's her audience and community. She's sold her soul for keeping a measurable amount of viewership.
I believe it's because they think sex trafficking is kidnapping when it's way more convoluted
Another instance of a "masculine" (read: successful, ambitious, capable, charismatic, and persuasive) woman who thinks women shouldn't be masculine. Always jarring.
She’s highly educated, went to multiple colleges, worked at a college, dated around, got married late, lives in NYC, she’s practically a liberal. Bet she’s triple boosted
Does anyone say being capable, charismatic and persuasive is masculine?
I think the adjectives OP chose were fine in spirit, but I think they meant stuff like "loud, assertive, aggressive, strong leader, confident", which are all opposites of classically feminine traits like "demure, quiet, agreeable"
Can you engage with what OP said now?
@@pokingHali What do you mean?
I just took issue with the statement that being capable, charismatic and persuasive is considered masculine by anyone.
I don't object to Jedediah being called masculine.
@@TheRedHaze3 that just follows naturally from the conservative idea of men having to be proactive, strong leaders while women should be silent and pretty to look at. In that world it´s clear why any form of active capability would be considered masculine.
For Tate debates, Destiny needs a massive checklist visual aid for what is sex traficking. Show them the law and get them to agree on the criteria and then debate each point. Once they agree on something, it gets ticked. Eventually you'll have all the points ticked and they'll look like the hack that they are trying to say 'no but' in front of a giant checklist filled with green ticks
@@askaelken Thisss 🤣 the icing on the cake. Lmfao.
How is that check list
Thats what 70 IQ of self absortion looks like
Its so funny that Destiny kept disproving her points and she still kept using them.
@@tynna333 What a great and unique take
@@tynna333 u won I guess
The second hand embarressment I got from this woman claiming to know how abused women behaved while waving away all woman that claims abuse and highlighted the ones who say they werent.. its unreal.
I feel like it's a similar case to when you have middle class black people that claim racism doesn't exist at all anymore because they've never seen it happen.
Why they be partying if they were abused??? Unmmmmm checkmate?
Its so frustrating because i dont think she realizes how much harm her outlook on this can cause.
@@MyName-vg8yu lol she doesn't care, she's doing this for money and clout. You can tell by her takes on money itself.
@@Darklordiban7 just like jussie smollett.
No one would make up a hate crime for fame and donations. Right guys
This woman is the definition of “confidently incorrect”
The dunning-kruger effect 😊
She’s a clown
isn't she also the one who claimed college is a scam
Same as chat GPT LUL
*both of these women
Wrong and strong
They never understand the contradiction of “let’s wait and see if he’s guilty” while simultaneously insisting he’s not guilty before evidence is brought forth
Innocent until proven guilty is how it should work... If you have a problem with that simple concept you've got severe issues my friend.
Also complaining about how the Romanian laws are holding him when he specifically chose Romania to abuse the laws.
@@MrNewVegas2281 being held in prison for an abnormally long time without enough evidence to actually indict is the problem here. If you're not charged, you're innocent. How it needs to be.
Biased Skepticism.
When it's [unfavorable position] it's "WELL let's just wait and see hmmmmm?"
When it's [favorable position] it's "see they coughed twice while admitting to rape and murder, that shows coercion to admit guilt!".
@@99sins all the while that's exactly what all you guys are doing lol. Innocent until proven guilty is absolute but none of you want to acknowledge that for Tate.
Man she was so committed to that point about money that it felt like she was just avoiding making any concessions and looking like she lost.
Thats what narcissists do
She was projecting. I think for her money is the most important thing which is why she has to carry water for the red pill.
This is Destiny at his best. He's done his homework and he is fully justified arguing in an aggressive manner. Empathetic Destiny has a time and a place but when he goes up against these disingenuous, ideologically compromised people who bring no arguments to the table, it's no holds barred and i think it's a glorious thing to behold
The fact that she thinks having a healthy relationship, having a loving family, having a meaningful vocation, having a supportive community, having committed friendships is mediocrity just... I can't actually believe she believes that, she has to be just trying to score political points.
She's definitely under audience capture or downright grifting.
She even said having a child made her more happy than anything else. Then spends the rest of the time trying to give advice about chasing money.
You cant have this things without being successful, people and community wont go out their way to befriend you and respect you if they dont look up to your success, ask broke lonely men why they are isolated lol.
I think the exact same thing except about Destiny. He literally just called all stay at home moms worthless bang maids that contribute nothing. Are you kidding me?
she was either intentionally being bad faith or just very stupid.
She is absolutely horrible at listening to anybody else's talk. The worst type of people to talk to are people who start speaking 3 words into your sentence and do it consistently for the whole conversation. It's just painful and it's like. Why would you listen to anything they do they just want to hear themselves talk
not really hear themselves talk as much as you are just a face to bounce the same 5 talking points off of. You only exist to legitimize the narrative they need to believe just by being there.
This woman benefited her whole life from feminism all the way up into middle age. Now she sees the opportunity to grift off of lonely guys 😅
She’s a complete grifter and she is not intelligent. Dumb people with knowledge and high entitlement are the most dangerous members of society. AKA narcissists
@@samselah that's exactly right. There is not a single one of these trad females on that red pill movement isn't benefitting from feminism. They are all the complete opposite of what they preach.
@@phantasticmrphasma9874 very true
You'd be lonely too if you were a guy actually
@Billy Murray my husband isn't lonely and would disagree with you.
Every Andrew tate defender says “I’m not an Andrew tate fan” and then completely simps for him
It's a math equation to her. He gets a plus 10 for the positive things he says that helps young men and gets a negative 4 for the vile ways he refers to women as his property and so he ends up with a plus 6 overall. As if that is how you measure morality.
Destiny trying to have a good faith argument with a former fox cohost went exactly as one would expect.
This is the 3rd interview I've watched with this woman, and she still has yet to prove to me that she has a clue wtf she's talking about.
Shes either an actual grifter, or a deranged sociopath who shouldnt have been allowed to have children. Likely the former.
This!!! I can't believe she worked in the TV industry. What the heck was she qualified to do? She said she got her Masters in a year.... I'm wondering what her degree is in.
She's fucking clueless or a blatant liar. For example, I don't believe for a second that she actually grew up poor. No one who grew up poor would label an 85k salary as "mediocrity."
@@Ayommari apparently some teaching crap.
and she also shits on teachers. go figure.
@@benjaminagostini8 Exactly. All you have to do is a google search and some quick math. If she grew up poor on staten island in the late 70s and 80s, if you had a 2 parent household making 45k a year(if we do the math for inflation) you were doing pretty well. 85k a year back then put you basically as rich, a part of the 1%, not 10% and you were in the richest areas of the city.
85k a year now even in 2023 puts you 30k over the national median(which is a whole ass fulltime job for most americans), and for MOST CITIES in MOST STATES, you are living fine. There is a reason that everytime destiny talks to uninformed people, on the left and right, they always go to these wildly high cost of living areas of the country, and completely ignore the other 99%, because who would ever not just live in a major city. Its the most snooty shit ever, and they literally dont ever hear themselves.
The fact that she finds someone striving and being content at 85k a year preposterous sums this whole conversation up.
Facts I’m like the average American makes 40k a year 😂 80k a year is what 6k a month?? Average person don’t even have 1k in their bank account!
Conservatives like to champion capitalism but at the same time advocate for everyone to get rich. Like wtf lol
@DefiantKing7 same and i am stress free and i get fed and fucked every day. I'd have to be selfish to ask for more.
I think those people got standard family life way out of control, lol all those people saying become this and that supposed to help regular man if most of those women around me wait for a man to take care of them , they will have to make that 80k and they wouldn't be able to do it in most cases. Lets just be truthful without love more men would be single and sad than we have nowadays, good for women that fall in love with those low income guys , Jesus Christ, those people are out of their mind, the only way to survive and most people to have relationship is to have compassion and work together not way for one or the other to do all work, house work or outside work. Also i think its dumb to have all those women pay for university education and not use it towards their career or towards the better of their society, and also if they work then the husband needs to do housework.
Nah 85k is average at best with this Biden inflation you need 90 to 150k to live relatively comfortably
This convo proves destiny is a masochist. Jebediah does not listen. She only wants to peddle nonsense but Destiny engages her anyway. Maybe he knows she is not acting in good faith I don't know but having a conversation with her is pointless.
I think the conversation is for her audience not her, I don't think he has any illusion that she's gonna change any of her positions but he might slightly sway some of her audience
she acts like she isn't getting refuted throughout the convo, it's shameless
This is what I'm saying. This is ego shit. Why pretend?
@rumham5480 bcuz she refuses to see it. Valutainment is filled with ppl just like her.
Destiny's entire life proves he is a masochist lol
"If you don't know how anything works then everything is a conspiracy" -- Destiny
“85k is mediocre”
“It isn’t.”
“It depends on the life you want.”
This woman will squawk up and down about how correct she is and when she’s called out on it she says “it depends on the person” even when her initial statements have nothing to do with personal preference, they’re just outright wrong.
Wasn't there a Pearl conversation on this thing that women do, the default to relativism or the exception?
85 k isnt enough to support a family with 2 kids if you want to live comfortably.
@@stanleyelnats yes it is. I’m gonna assume you don’t even know how much you make in a year. That’s almost the top 1% of America (anything past 100k a year is in the 1%) yes you can survive, you can’t go vacation in Dubai but that’s more than enough money.
The amount of people Destiny has spoken to who think sex trafficking requires some agent LITERALLY holding a gun to someone's head for it to be considered such, is getting pretty dumb at this point.
It’s repulsive.
3 weeks later😂
Ill Grant you that the supporters did a poor job of explaining the situation,, but every interview I saw with Destiny regarding the Tate's was intellectually dishonest.
He is constantly conflating the fact that the Tate's ran a web cam business 5 years ago with the complaints. He is so blinded by his desire to see the Tate's convicted that he is misleading his followers with false claims.
@@hannibalatthegate3384 he’s on house arrest hardly released 😂😂
@@rhys2091 doesn’t sound like a charge dies it.
My personal problem with a lot of these kinds of conversations is the person makes the worst claims with zero evidence, demands Destiny provides the evidence for his claims, then refuses to engage with his point or even begin to give ground on their position even when it's so incredibly clear they have no legs to stand on.
Yes. The annoying combination of ignorance and confidence.
It depends where the burden of proof lies on. In this case it’s on Destiny and those who accuse Tate of being a human trafficker.
@ali24B It also lies on her. She's the one claiming they have no proof or the proof seems inconclusive for Tate's arrest/holding. She's the one trying to claim the legal process seems corrupt, yet she couldn't begin to explain why it's corrupt.
@@Darklordiban7 actually it doesn’t bro because he’s innocent until “proven” guilty
@@Darklordiban7 holding someone for months on end without even charging them? Yeah that’s obviously wrong
OMG. It’s beyond frustrating to witness women like this totally refuse to accept the blatant reality of Tate being a trafficker. I cannot understand it. I truly think she’s basing her opinion on how sex trafficking is portrayed in movies from 20 years ago.
It's the same with conservatives and rape. They can only picture back alley poundings and don't seem to mind coercion. Then they say rape culture doesn't exist. Blows my mind.
It's cult like. Tbh she not even willing to listen or read Tates owns words from his social medias that's how brainwash she is
Wdym? All sex trafficking happens exactly the way it happened in Taken, including Liam Neeson having to break up the trafficking ring solo IRL.
@@badicusvibesimus182 🤣🤣🤣
What do you mean - everybody knows sex trafficking ONLY happens if a woman is held in a cage and only let out to be chained to a bed where strangers run a train on her. I am so smart, i know exactly how world works. Tate did nothing wrong. /s
She just proved that you can leave Fox Network behind you but not within you.
I'm far Right and she's ridiculous. She doesn't hold actually conservative values.
This lady got dragged on the Tate case, Destiny was actually informing her of how legal proceedings function, basically giving her a play by play, presenting her with statements by Tate himself, and she just kept circling back to “but why not charge him yet, he’s being held under arrest, it isn’t fair” good lord, sometimes when you don’t have enough information it’s not worth having an opinion.
Only men who haven't been around numerous and different types of women from both childhood and adulthood would take Pearl seriously.
You can see it in her comment section
I think I agree, but be more specific... Not exactly sure what your trying to say
This sums her up her fan base perfectly.
Who tf is pearl
Destiny neglects his child, plays video games, and argues on the internet. Hes a literal teenager in an adult body. Sure he’s smart, but he has no clue about a normal healthy relationship.
Jed's $85k a year take is so disconnected it's insane. I almost can't even believe she's being serious.
Thats not a ton of money, you would need more to live comfortably with a family.
@@picklespickle1641 no you wouldn’t… be quiet
@@phantasticmrphasma9874 stfu your broke if you think that.
@@picklespickle1641 firstly, it’s you’re*, dumb peasant, secondly i earn more than that. Thirdly, you just revealed yourself to be as stupid as her.. as if all lifestyles, demographics and area codes have an equal price…
Go watch some more Jed videos to rot your rotten brain some more
@@phantasticmrphasma9874 You think i care about proper grammar on a youtube comment section? And no dumbass 80k a year is not enough in most states to raise a family comfortably especially if the woman doesn’t work. You would be fine but you would not have freedom and you would have budget. If you make more than that you should go but some education. And get destiny and his nuts out your mouth.
85k a year isnt enough? This woman is so out of touch. Imagine acting as though 85k is poverty
@@TonyCox1351 this is insane, i question if ur a dad, or at the least, if ur actually in an average cost area. not only would 85k put u easily on track to retire fairly comfortably at age 65, but some of the costs u listed fade after age 10 of a child. stop fibbing u goober
@Tony how the fuck is 7 grand USD not enough to support 3 people.... either where you live has absurd cost of living, or you're terrible at budgeting. You should honestly talk to a banker or somthing to get your stuff figured out. There's no way 7 grand a month shouldn't be enough for you and your boys to live a good life.
@Tony I'm the remedial yet you clearly can't read 🤣🤣🤣
@@TonyCox1351 bro, u have a fucking cleaner, which i’m sure helps, but is entirely unnecessary for ur life. not only this, but the suggestion that u can’t live off of 62k a year is fucking WIIIILD. unless u got taken for a ride on your house and car payments, u should be fine on that amount of money. are u actually suggesting, minus the costs you already mentioned, you’ll blow through 5k in a month ? i question ur ability to save if this is the case. maybe it’s time to sit down and evaluate entertainment expenses my friend
@@TonyCox1351 why would I respond when you didn't even read my initial comment lol
It’s absolutely crazy that she is sitting here preaching about the benefits of being a traditional woman while she is exhibiting and doing exactly what men consider to be masculine. She’s talking about being a stay at home mom for a year! And how fulfilling it was. 😂 absolutely a hypocrite 😂😂😂
It’s warping my mind. She wants to berate successful women into being “traditional” but has to simultaneously defend her leading a very feminist life and career. And somehow it’s not even the dumbest part of her argument. 😂
red pill women are something else
I guarantee you if she’s not currently earning more than her husband she has certainly in the past. Her husband is much younger than she is and isn’t involved in this lucrative business
She’s delusional 😂 She brings up the Tate topic and can’t back up any facts then contradicts herself, it’s frustrating. Then her talking about abuse victims and has no clue what she is talking about 🤯
It’s frustrating when u assume someone is guilty without proof.
@@natediaz1863 so he’s not under house arrest?
@@hannibalatthegate3384 is he free yet?
@@natediaz1863 is he?
"Why do you think Tate is a sex trafficker?"
*Reads off an exact quote from Tates own website of his own course
"No no that tells me nothing. I don't know the context of that"
"It's his website we can literally pull it up right now"
"I don't want some quotes out of context"
I truly...... Truly.....despise this person. Holy fuuuuuu
Lol if tant said it well 🤣
There’s literally nothing in that quote that equates to sex trafficking tho he hired a bunch of women he was dating to work for his webcam company like honestly so freaking what ? LOL webcam isn’t prostitution it’s a legal business
@@youngali505 Sexual exploitation does not require prostitution. Sex Trafficking is "Illegally transporting people from one country to another for the purpose of sexual exploitation".
Sexual Exploitation can be prositution, but it also includes things like: Exotic Dancing, being a masseuse, being a cam girl).
For Sex Trafficking: "victims are generally put in contact with the perpetrator through shared friends or common acquaintances, sometimes on social media or elsewhere on the Internet. Some perpetrators also approach young people directly in bars, malls or outside of schools or youth centres. At first, they do not present as someone who will exploit the young people they approach. Instead, perpetrators seduce, are generous with (gifts, free drugs, trips, etc.) and protective over their victim.
Later, once the victim is in love with or dependant on the perpetrator (for their affection, connections with a group, money, drugs, social status, etc.), the perpetrator can manipulate and push, meaning force, the victim into offering sexual services" - Quebec govt website
@@CFIREKytb yeah but none of what you said fits the description first of all none of victims did webcam he was arrested for forcing girls to do tiktok and onlyfans secondly one of the victims who is pressing charges went to Tate house in a suitcase and asked if she could lived there ( that’s not luring) LOL then Tate kicked her out cuz she was prostituting in his house looool yall don’t even read the goddam WhatsApp and case files you just read a criminal headline and feed yourself with destiny lying narrative. How the hell you gone say Tate is guilty when he literally cut the victim off for prostituting 😂😂😂 anyone with damn sense knows the courts is corrupt as Fuck and Tate is likely innocent
For a woman who is against the modern woman she uses the same tactics.
Destiny says "for most people"
Her " but that isn't true for this tiny percentage of people"
Had a baby late and chased money and went to school. Wow it's almost as of generally this is a good and safe way for women to make money . Ben Shipro literally says it all that time about having a baby too soon, and not going to school is one of the biggest reasons why people broke and she literally didn't do that haha. She's what 44 and her kid is half the age of Steven's. She in every way is the women that she says is bad .
@@komlat253 THANK YOU. 😂
Isn’t she an example of not a woman that she wants other women to be? She seems like she’d be making a lot of money, not a stay at home mom just making dinner for her husband, yet she’s saying other women should be?
She said she works an hour a day 3 days a week. There’s a lot more hours in the week.
@@clev5678 She got her masters at columbia and landed pretty big tv jobs. She spent her twenties putting more time into her career than most men. Its a blatant contradiction but what good is a conscious when you can cash out those red pill checks.
@@clev5678 So she does zero prep work? Zero research? Zero pre production? Just shows up for an hour and wings it, dials in from home and doesnt have a commute.... nah id venture to guess she works a lot more than 3 hours a week. But doesnt want to admit that because its very masculine.
@@isaiasortiz100 I stand corrected! Lol. Speaking out of my ass I guess, this is the first I’ve seen of this woman.
Yep. That’s exactly what she is saying. She ALSO said that money makes you happier but women should prioritize being a mother over career. She’s full of contradictions.
Conservative women: “I think women should become traditional and reject feminism.”
*gets job as commentator because feminism*
I think all choices a woman chooses be it SAHM and wife of podcast commentator should be accepted and not trashed.
They should say how pleasant being SAHM is without making the other side of working moms or working non moms, sound miserable and selfish !
Am I the only one who is baffled by this ladies inability to understand what I believe to be obvious logic presented by Destiny regarding the Tate case?
What's worse is Destiny is completely willing to accept a non-guilty verdict if that happens to be the outcome. Am I crazy?
Her ego is so big that she’s not willing to look at other point of view. Facts . She wants to do debate to prove a point, not to learn some thing.
85,000 a year is not mediocre. It’s mediocre in her eyes and where she lives, 95% of the population can live off of that. And that is a no it’s not, look at the stats figure out the cost of living in each state, compare it to the current household income and then make a decision. She’s basing it off Manhattan.😂
Patrick Bet David pays her big money to be bad faith
"People shouldn't be content with mediocrity"? Definitionally half the world is below average in whatever category you choose, being average or mediocre or whatever is *_fine_*
Yeah, I think you should really be seeking people who are exceptional in things that you value, instead of being exceptional for things like yearly income. Everyone is kinda special in their own way.
You should drive to have more than just 'fine' in any category though. Like money is one thing, but you also shouldn't just settle for just an okay relationship in your marriage either for example.
She's nearly 50 and hadn't figured this out. She probably doesn't know what the median age of mortality is either. (She's creeping up on it)
@@Matt-dn5jcthere's a difference between excelling in one category and _every_ category though, specialising is great and to be encouraged of course, find what you're good at or enjoy and perfect those skills, but trying to become a paragon of virtue and Ubermensch is a ridiculous moonshot destined to fall short, being average at most things in life is not failing at life is my point
It's really strange how this theme of "the average man is below average" is so common in these circles that claim to want to empower men.
They literally perpetuate their idea that the average man is not good enough to be successful or happy if they aren't living an extremely extravagant and materialistic lifestyle, while also claiming to be religious and spiritual. It's like they don't even know what they themselves want or believe.
I literally have an existential crisis whenever I watch these kinda videos... How tf to these people actually exist their argument is literally being dismantled in front of them but they continue believing in their ideology. It's actually bordering on religious belief
Yes!!
It’s ego and any issue they are defending is in defense of their own self image. These debates aren’t really about being correct but winning and gaining security/power/status. Self actualization
They know that the argument can be won in post trough out of context clips.
They know 90% of people will only see that part.
Its ok you are arrogant enough to think your life experience is reality, once you gain some wisdom that ll change
What would America look like if no one worked these so called mediocre jobs. She is the best example of someone who is overpaid and over valued. These mediocre jobs are essential to the economy and infrastructure. What about the farmers where she gets her food. She is out of touch with reality.
"If you don't know how ANYTHING works EVERYTHING is a conspiracy"
God I love this man.. this planet needs more destinys
And if you think you know, how everything works, nothing is a conspiracy because you know everything
She's right this world doesn't need more Destiny's. We need less idiots we need less conspiracy theorist
How the fuck did she go from “the grind isn’t important, staying at home and nurturing my family is what’s most important” to “if you make 85k you’re mediocre” so quickly??
Men and women have different roles your daddy should have taught you better. 85k is average in some states be better than average…
@@dspicerj Average” isn’t a good indicator of the average person’s income, as it easily swayed by outliers and doesn’t map well onto reality. The median is a better indicator and 85k is more than the median household income for 45 states out of 50. The median income for the whole country is 65k, so anything above that means you’re doing better than the average american. Also, men, just like women, get to decide whatever role they want within society, as long as it’s legal, after all isn’t that what America was founded on? The right of the individual to seek happiness and lead his life whatever way he sees fit, within legal boundaries of course.
Now, let’s put statistics aside, in the hopes that I was able to pull you out of a distorted world view where somehow being middle class is considered mediocre. I couldn’t give less of a fuck what is considered average or what other people think of me, through experience I’ve learned that following other people’s dreams and society’s expectations only leads to misery, so instead I decided to pursue my own happiness, follow my own values, listen to my own instincts, emotions and thoughts and structure them in such a way that allows me both to be directed by them, and not to fall prey to the whims of whatever short term feeling I may have in a specific period. If this leads me to being rich that’s great, if it doesn’t who cares, I’m the one who gets to live my own life, so I don’t have to answer to anyone else’s expectations
@@dspicerj "Men and women have different roles" very cool, but I don't think people making 6 figs give af about those "roles' lmao
Imfao right then saying you shouldn’t settle imfao I mean I won’t settle but mediocre jobs do have value however she is right about money and being a stay at home mom is in no way unfulfilling or useless it may be hard but that’s why u marry up ❤
HAHAHA what a pick me. Terrible woman attempting to be pro SAHM and wife yet at the same time idolises red pill sexist talking points
"I loved that year I did nothing but do stuff around the house, take my kids places see family"
No shit who wouldn't
And yet she gave it up when the kid was 2.
Not to mention all of those things she mentioned had very little to do with then number of zeroes she has in her bank account and yet she gets offended if someone suggests that past a certain monetary point, if you can't find happiness , then it might not be because of the amount of money you have.
Ages 0-2 are the worst ages for a kid. The kid is absolutely helpless at that point, wakes up all night, you have to bottle feed it, change its diapers. Kids dont even start being enjoyable til 2 when they can walk and talk and play. She is either lying through her teeth or doesnt even have kids lol
not to mention, she worked to make money to have a lifestyle to stay home for 1 year. And then says "women shouldn't work" WHAT A DUMB WOMAN.
Lockdown was great for sitting at home getting paid. I realised if I won the lottery I would never work and stay at home with my family.
"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." -Mark Twain
Yeah which one is which
Wow, aren't you clever.
@@Dade-xo9xt wow, arnt you both retarded
@@heinz57channel39 ur mom
Cant believe people upvote this shit
When she said I buy my food from a farm I don’t deal with three letter agencies I almost spit my water out because this lady lives in fantasy land
She also get her internet supply from an organic farm…
What farm can even supply all her needs. Like, I know a farmer I can get eggs from, but that is all I can get from him since like 98% of other farmers his actual crops are contracted to an agricorp. It would cost you an incredible amount to have a farmer just provide you a chunk of his crops, and you would likely need multiple farmers to get all your food products. The reason we agreed on eggs is because the markup in stores is big enough me and a few neighbors could bulk purchase his eggs for more than the corp offers him but less than we pay at the store, but most products don’t have margins that big.
@@luxborealis this is why she thinks "85k is avg" 💀
"I'm here 3 days a week for 1 hr a day" that's all you need to understand the disconnect from reality this woman has.
She’s annoying and I’m Quite conservative
She’s constantly contradicts herself. She says women should be in the home but she’s not. She’s lying. She doesn’t believe the crap she says. It’s the same as all the women who do these podcasts
If begging the question was a person. Shocked she worked for Fox News, absolutely shocked
You have way too high of standards of fox news.
Wtf?!?!? Why?!? These are EXACTLY the types of people Fox LOVES!
Guys. Sarcasm.
@@bigboy2217 lol you NEVER know! There really are people out there……. Look at Jedediah!
Not only did she work for Fox she was fired from Fox for being crazy.
"I really like my year off being a housewife therefore all other women want that as well"
Living in fantasy land as usual.
Average salary is like 40k. She says 80k is settling for mediocrity. Literally double what most people make. 80k is a damn decent living everywhere in the US I've lived.
It's almost like these people forget that there's a whole fuckin' world out there outside of this hyper rich utopia we live in. Sure, there's big problems here, but there's a total lack of scale when you hear materialistic people talk. How do they think so many people from poor countries end up happy even though they don't have a million thread count bed sheet?
80k a year is decent but he said it won’t make you happier past that which is a lie. At 80k you can not live in complete comfort, you will still need to budget and if you have kids it would be a bare minimum. Most car payments are 500 dollars a month for a 40 k car which the average. That’s half the salary.
@@picklespickle1641 if you’re at 80k, you could easily support prolly 2 kids in 95% of the country. Additionally, you shouldn’t be buying 40K cars.
If you’re at 80K, you’re the .00001% of the world
@@joebidet3606 Absolutely not, 80k is good but to support two kids and yourself is expensive. 80k is also not 1% of the country, it’s more like 10% and maybe 15% in some places.
@@picklespickle1641 I said .0001% of the world. And is being top 10% in America not enough?
What about the tens of millions of families that are able to live happily with an avg household income of 60K? I think they’re doing okay
If she had a daughter that went to Romania to marry Tate and instead ended up doing sex work, would she defend him like this?
😄 bingo...
I’m scared to know her answer honestly
You gotta love how the Tate case is so blatantly obvious and a slam dunk that people are blinded to it. It's a perfect case of being an educated idiot when it couldn't be more on the nose.
Slam dunk innocent?
When she listened to the Tate quote and responded "that doesn't sound like sex trafficking to me" my head literally exploded 🤯 WTF?
And if he’s found Not guilty then what?
To these people sex trafficking is kidnapping little girls and aggressively raping them. They don’t realize that the most effective way to traffick is by making it seem like it’s their choice.
@@picklespickle1641 the answer is then they didn’t have sufficient evidence to prosecute him. Now the opposite of he gets convicted you going to finally admit he’s a sex trafficker or double down it’s all a conspiracy and the system is corrupt?
@@ChrisCoelho You still covering yourself Instead of admitting he didn’t do it if he’s found not guilty. You already have an excuse set up , it’s amazing.
@@picklespickle1641 idk why anyone taking pickles pickle seriously
"That's not how women who've been horribly assaulted behave" She's immune to words, D explained how that isn't the allegation so many times
A famous philosopher once said: Mo Money, Mo Problems.
There’s something ironic about a successful career woman who got married and had kids later in life lecturing everyone else about following a traditional path.
Im impressed over the blindfolds this woman has! It’s lucky clear she has never been in an abusive relationship or been abused by anyone. It’s all the same. They use punishment and lovebombing intertwined until you go around as a robot and do whatever you’re told. Smile, dance. Even go out and come back. The abuser breaks you down mentally until you believe your not worth anything and you depent on the abuser to survive.
She is pissing on a lot of survivors of abuse with this attitude.
Her entire platform is dependent upon supporting conservative ideology. Tate is the most googety-googied person in the solar system so she doesn't want to alienate her core audience. Epstein and Weinstein can go to hell since they were on the other side.
19:34 never once have I given a shit about any “3 letter agency.” This woman simply lives and views things differently because she is more privileged than 99% of the population. “I buy my food directly from a farm” she shouldn’t be able to make generalizations about the average human.
I guess if you're privileged enough and you have almost no obstacles before you you'll just start inventing things to overcome no matter how fantastical they seem. Buying from a farm to spite the FDA has to be the most white conservative woman moment ever.
I don't like destiny but the things Tate has said about tricking women and getting them to be cam girls and fooling simps to pay for his university..I s enough for me to listen to his points .. Tate doesn't look good in this , guilty or not.
It’s hilarious that you don’t even realise that Tate isn’t even charged with webcam cuz that business ended 6 years ago he’s charged with making girls do tiktok and onlyfans LOL yall let destiny straight feed you misinformation
@@youngali505 That is not true if you look in the court documents, plus Tristan claimed that they increased their amount of cam girls during Covid. Covid was not 6 years ago. Maybe it was a "joke" video, but it doesn't look good.
This woman is the type of person where debates and arguments are pointless, her world view is built so heavily on her beliefs and opinions that she cannot see outside the box.
Thats why she shouldnt have a show
She took red pill talking points and ran with them . She’s a pick me and incredibly delusional that 85 k is mediocre HAHAHA clown
If “Bad Faith” was a living form
Fr 😂
Jed says 50k a year isnt even first world? I feel like she pays $200 for ripped jeans. I bet she has never been alone in her whole life and has no idea what its like to feel you just have no one. I bet she has a huge supportive family.
12:53 When attempting to establish that 85k is not a high enough salary to be fulfilled, probably don’t say “I’ve lived in New York City for my entire life”
Does she realize how unattractive and “low value” she is to all these “high value” men she’s defending? She’s the exact opposite of what a high value women is. She’s successful, she’s opinionated and argumentative, she’s dominant, makes a lot of money, etc. it’s just weird to see her argue that she’s unattractive
The ultimate irony. All these "traditional" or "Conservative" female influencers have a tons of masculine energy.
She's also unattractive in the more conventional way lmao
Successful Right wing women benefited from feminism more unironically
@Highlightrelz I don't know what a "femoid" is but I don't think Tomi Lahren or Ann Coulter are "Social Conservatives" per say. I don't think they promote this housewife fantasy like Jedidiah, Pearl, and RadFemSapien. I'm not sure what Candance has said on this. But all of them do have masculine energy.
Don’t forget she’s past 30 so she’s way too old for them too 😂
if she spent less time talking through someone else's main talking points, and more time trying to comprehend even half the words coming out of their mouths, this conversation would probably have been more productive.
Yeah, but she wasn’t looking for a productive conversation. Her only goal was to own the blue haired lib. And it made her look incredibly stupid.
Steve missed big on her point of "these other women say they weren't trafficked/abused"; THAT DOESN'T MATTER, if he didn't traffic/abuse those women, fine, but if you didn't murder other people but murdered another one, that doesn't bloody acquit you.
"I'm not a materialist" Says the women wearing Beats by Dre
imagine spending years to make 50k a year, and then listen to this lady.
"Past $80k a year money won't make you happier"
"Why do u want people to stay at $80k a year?"
Is money the only thing that can make people happy now?
This lady is very privileged it feels like she doesn’t realize it half the time
"Inspirational to men": right. So we should aspire to lie to and manipulate women for our own benifit. Very inspirational.
I think she thinks that his view on women combined with "work out, make money" is inspirational, but she probably doesn't think too long about the actual consequenses of his actions. She just forgets the large amount of men who are emotionally healthy and impressive, who don't bash or abuse women, that do a better job than Tate.
$85k is mediocrity?????? That puts you in the top 5% of earners! $85k would change my life and blow my mind.
I'm 28, live in my own house in Greater Cleveland, OH on $50k per year and am saving lots and living comfy. If I made $80k per year (maybe within a few years after getting my degree, God willing), I'd say that's enough to have a stay-at-home wife (if that's what she wants) and start a family.
This woman is so out of touch its crazy. Supposedly Christian? But it sounds like money is her god.
How much is your mortgage? How much is your car payment? And how much food do you buy?
@@picklespickle1641 Hey! I saved up for a few years and put 20% down on my $95k house in early 2020 (was making slightly less back then), and my mortgage is $630 (was $590 before housing market boom). Before that, was paying about $800 for rent.
I'm blessed to have owned my car since I was 21, my dad sold me the family 2011 Kia Soul for only $3,000 and I still drive it. When the time comes that I need a new car, I'll almost definitely buy used (I like simple cars from early/mid 2010s, cheaper and easier to maintain) from a private-seller with cash.
I used to eat out and get fast food way too much, spending around $500/month on food. Recently I'm eating fairly healthy dinners at home (salmon, chicken, veggies) way more and usually drink soylent (meal replacement) for breakfast and/or lunch. Not including going out with friends for a meal once in a while, my monthly food budget is about $300.
@@c_xela 630 is insanely cheap and you seem content which is good congrats. But in most places thats pretty impossible, not to mention if you have kids.
@@picklespickle1641 Admittedly, my house is pretty small would be a little cramped with even just one kid. I think median incomes are pretty decent for living single or married though, a little more depending on family size. Ideally of course would be to have enough to be able to send kids to a good school, give them other advantages, and take nice vacations. But Jed seems to think that's wouldn't be plausible on a $100k salary, which I think is a little crazy. That's plenty of money to save for a few years for a 20% down payment on a nice house in a nice city.
Hearing the term “help mate” is driving me insane. That is not in the Bible.
It’s a misquoting of the term “help meet” which is a common term in trad circles, and is ALSO not a real term. The Bible says “and she shall be a help meet for him,” the word “meet” meaning “fit.” So “a helper fit for him,” but tradcons decided to turn “help meet” into a fake term, and now Pearl and Jed are misquoting even that.
It’s just such a hilariously transparent example of how lazy their tradcon grift is.
She actually thinks Andrew Tate dating “attractive women” has actual relevance as to whether or not these are valuable women some high status male should want to associate himself with. 🤦🏼♂️
Trust me, attraction is my first measure, but secondly I want a woman who”s intelligent, who values herself, her ideas, her self worth & fights for her passions & her place in our relationship. The last thing I’d ever want is some “pick me” woman like Pearl who treats me more like her father than her partner & just blindly agrees with everything I say. I want someone who fights for equality in our relationship & I want a challenge that’s on my level. I want her time & attention, but I want it with her consent & well being. Any woman that dates someone like Andrew Tate by default doesn’t have a healthy sense of self worth. His words make him not credible or someone worth taking serious & that by default makes the idiot women he associates with not worthy of being taken serious regardless of how attractive they are. Being attractive is just a prerequisite for all the important attributes that need to follow.
First measure fin
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I don’t know what that response means? Can you elaborate?
She's arguing against her own lifestyle.
29:50 Destiny K.O. 's her.
Jed: "It doesn't make sense to me. "
Destiny: Because you don't care to find the truth. "
As soon as you have ownership tattoo, you are counted as a victim.
Jebedilah should read about pimps and tattoos.
And they won’t charge them
because one case leads to other. When they are done with investigation, they will charge them.
Love that people are saying Romania is corrupt which is why Andrew himself chose to live there to try and take advantage of it and its backfiring so now its bad
jesus she goes from "if they had enough to charge tate, they would have charged him already." to "ok lets wait and see" without even realizing she completely flip flopped!
It's crazy how little this woman understands about law enforcement and criminal investigations. When you're building a case, you don't just jump and bring someone to court over the first thing you might get conviction with. No police officer anywhere would do that. You build a case and get as much evidence of as many different crimes as you possibly can, and investigations into organised crime are rarely wrapped in as little as 11 months.
She will cut you off to say “I disagree, I disagree” before you’ve said half of a sentence. Wild.
When Pearl smiles vacantly to formulate a response, I get such Titan from AoT vibes. It's Uncanny.
me too; and frankly i agree with the girl in the first clip. she has these opinions because it brings male validation that she lacks because she’s fairly unattractive
I just think jebs problem is that she didn't know that right to a speedy trial was exclusively an American thing
I highly doubt she knows anything about the US justice system let alone the Romanian one. If she thinks a victim not labeling themselves as a victim means anything.
Yeah, seriously, in my country some people have been held up to two years before being charged, even if average street goons usually get charged within a couple weeks.
No shot that these same high value man would let her have her own podcast and independence
Seeing how quickly she defends Tate, I wonder how much she's making from his "business". Seriously, we got his defense attorney right here, live.
theres nothing more disgusting then someone bias saying they are not bias
Like destiny
@@mmor7380 destiny has acknowledged his biases many times before so… no
The self-aware thing to do is recognize everybody is biased, not in the sense of being wrong, but that at bottom, people have differing interests, and even if given the same set of facts, focus on different things by default.
@@mmor7380 care for an example?
"biased." The term is "biased."
man i love how Destiny dismantle every argument she has.
He got pwned in the stay at home mom part
@@johnjacob7646 How so?
@@johnjacob7646 she couldn’t make a single counter argument without strawmanning
And yet she stands her ground by saying no it isn’t
@@heinz57channel39 the way she kept hopping around, I couldn't really make out any ground that she actually attempted to defend :x
What blows my mind is the whole “he’s a net positive”
I just don’t get it, there are things he says that are “correct” or “positive” but that just leads men to trust him so he can offload all the harmful stuff he tells them too. God she’s so stupid it hurts
@@FqYIwgsiRW2MaTDc agreed. I find it so funny though that people will use the word “net” positive, because it means they do know about all the bad stuff. Truly baffling that people can just wilfully decide that sex trafficking isn’t that bad and he’s said some good things so ya know overall he’s a force for good. 😂
@@FqYIwgsiRW2MaTDc Hate to break it to you, but he was a scumbag even before this incident. The take aways that children get from watching Tate isn’t “I need to exercise and make money so that women like me” (which isn’t even a healthy mindset to begin with), it’s “Bitches are weak and money is what matters if you want to bang them”.
"Trafficking, sleeping around, r**ing and scamming isn't bad, as long as you tell men to go to the gym, man up and earn money..."
There are definitely better people on the internet that men can look up to.
Also.. there's a good possibility she really enjoyed that year bc she had the option to leave a stressful worklife and be home with slightly older kids. She always had the option to return to something..
What she doesn't get is often these alpha males don't want women with options. They want women who feel their only and best option is to be a bedmate.
If she can excel and make her own money.. and that is what you've built your entire personality around.. then why would she need/want you unless you just make way more than she ever could?
She's a very frustrating person to listen to, especially when someone disagrees with her. She's aggressive, shes passive aggresive, she's a little condescending, she is extremely ideological and doesnt admit it, she often conflates what she believes to be true with what IS actually true, she asserts things as true when she is clearly wrong, she often refuses to engage with the point, she rarely ever concedes even to points that have been logically laid out...😑😑😑