How the Cleveland Cavaliers Failed LeBron James (2003-2010)

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  • čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
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    Chapters:
    00:00 - Backstory
    02:22 - Early Years
    09:43 - Competitive Years
    19:27 - Crimes Against Basketball

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  • @entername9179
    @entername9179 Před 3 měsíci +1983

    any cavs fan will tell you our team failed him but then non cavs fans will try and say that it was lebrons fault
    Edit: The comments under this prove my point😂

    • @frameddonut1056
      @frameddonut1056 Před 3 měsíci +149

      What do y'all think about the reaction people had when Lebron left nowadays?
      Because it was pretty ugly to see and it made the 2010 Cavs fans look like a bunch of immature adults crying about a player taking his career into his own hands.
      But then again, I'm not even American or a Cavs fan, so I don't know what it feels like to have the "Chosen One" in my team just to loose him for nothing in free agency lol

    • @entername9179
      @entername9179 Před 3 měsíci +224

      ​@@frameddonut1056 hes definitely loved here nowadays hes our biggest legend. the reaction was very bad at first because people didn't want to see him leave. after he won us a chip and people started thinking about it with less emotion they started to realize how much he did for our team

    • @leo_wentzel
      @leo_wentzel Před 3 měsíci +41

      @@frameddonut1056coming from a non Cavs fan, their reaction really wasn’t that bad lmao. Anytime a star player leaves a team the fans always take it personally, and we see it in every sport: jersey burnings, signs, social media posts etc.
      One would say Cavs fans are mature as they welcomed back Bron with open arms and didn’t just blindly hate him cus he left when the organization was sorry.

    • @johndebono1870
      @johndebono1870 Před 3 měsíci +19

      @@frameddonut1056 I'm a Toronto fan, so have strong feelings about LeBron.
      Having the greatest comeback in finals history will get you a lot of goodwill.

    • @mhead1117
      @mhead1117 Před 3 měsíci +14

      It was lebrons fault

  • @ktkeef8494
    @ktkeef8494 Před 3 měsíci +262

    I always said this , “LeGm” Bron only became a thing because of those 7 years in Cleveland! He most likely got ptsd from organizations thanks to those Cleveland years 😂

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 3 měsíci +3

      Yeah but miami got him bosh wade chalmers haslem miller jones joel battier cole ray lewis andersen plus turiaf bibby big z house juwan pittman harris beasley over 4 years and he still left ...can't do better than that with the money draft and trade restrictions they were facing....thats a great run of players they added that contributed to titles and finals runs ...not a single wasted player there....

    • @yvngxsensai
      @yvngxsensai Před 3 měsíci +39

      @@razkableMiami didn’t get him wade and bosh, the players agreed amongst themselves all to sign to the same place at the same time

    • @Aextra101
      @Aextra101 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@razkablewell he left Miami for 2 reasons. 1. Wade and Bosh’s health were uncertain, especially Wade’s at the time. So it wasn’t clear if they could run it back and contend for another title. 2. He has unfinished business in Cleveland, now that they had Kyrie, Thompson, and Dion who only missed the playoffs by 2-3 games that year, all they needed was Lebron to be contenders. Kevin Love was just a sweetener.

    • @yc99official95
      @yc99official95 Před 2 měsíci

      i think the pressure on the front office stems from not wanting to repeat the same mistakes the cavs organization did in his 1st stint, but since his 2nd stint, especially when it was winding down, there was mounting pressure to make moves to build a team around lebron, that's why the cavs blew up their team twice in a span of around 5-6 months
      lebron not getting enough help during his 1st stint with the cavs, inadvertently did result in him having a very large influence in the front office decision-making where they had to acquire pieces that would help him, thus the "LeGM" thing

    • @captaincurt396
      @captaincurt396 Před měsícem

      Acting like the East wasn’t absolutely Putrid during that time. The West was filled with juggernauts

  • @casualbanter6939
    @casualbanter6939 Před 3 měsíci +802

    I hope Wemby doesn't end up in the same situation

    • @gokuswanson2037
      @gokuswanson2037 Před 3 měsíci +75

      Wemby won't but for completely different reasons.

    • @timoehlers2265
      @timoehlers2265 Před 3 měsíci +75

      As a Mavs fan I hope Luka doesn't

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 měsíci +46

      ​@@timoehlers2265 At least Luka has special, great and unique moments. Every Playoffs and RS with him it's great, especially with the past series with the Clippers and Suns

    • @theSafetyCar
      @theSafetyCar Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@timoehlers2265Luka has been in a similar situation but the Mavs are getting better

    • @jodlaa5142
      @jodlaa5142 Před 3 měsíci +35

      Spurs will handle it don't worry

  • @Joswag
    @Joswag Před 3 měsíci +1126

    I don’t blame him a bit for leaving
    It’s alarming when your best teammate is Mo Willams

    • @RarelyEvenn
      @RarelyEvenn Před 3 měsíci +168

      I mean Mo Williams was a pretty good player. But if that's the BEST YOU CAN GIVE HIM? Thats pathetic.

    • @Betroid
      @Betroid Před 3 měsíci +14

      @@RarelyEvennyou taking mo Williams over Scottie pippen?

    • @user-wt5lm9kv1q
      @user-wt5lm9kv1q Před 3 měsíci +8

      Mo williams , 2009 all star

    • @user-wt5lm9kv1q
      @user-wt5lm9kv1q Před 3 měsíci +14

      @@Betroidscottie pippen , THE ONLY ALL STAR JORDAN PLAYER WITH , when rodman joined he was aged
      LEBRON played with SIXTEEN 16!

    • @Betroid
      @Betroid Před 3 měsíci

      @@user-wt5lm9kv1q who!?

  • @bballtotal
    @bballtotal Před 3 měsíci +1516

    It’s still crazy to me that LeBron led that awful 2007 Squad to the FINALS 🤯

    • @manzac112
      @manzac112 Před 3 měsíci +187

      Okay, they weren't that bad. They had a really good defense and good coaching. They couldn't get any offensive to help LeBron ever since Carlos Boozer walked in free agency.

    • @hhtptai
      @hhtptai Před 3 měsíci +90

      All time carry job.

    • @juniorgonzalez3900
      @juniorgonzalez3900 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Quit discrediting him. They were AWFUL. @@manzac112

    • @jumpman2326
      @jumpman2326 Před 3 měsíci +51

      Lebron carried them to the finals that year.

    • @transcribeded
      @transcribeded Před 3 měsíci +102

      ​@@manzac112they were the 4th ranked defense in the league. Really not a bad team.

  • @user-jw5qj8kv2y
    @user-jw5qj8kv2y Před 3 měsíci +610

    LeBron left the Cavs because of their organizational failures. After drafting the 18 year old kid that was deemed ‘The Chosen One’ he lived up to and exceeded all expectations. LeBron James gave the Cavs 7 seasons of the best basketball an organization could ask for and they failed him. In those 7 seasons the cavs failed to hit on any draft picks and they also didn’t trade for another star. Still with no co-star LeBron managed to drag that cavs team to the finals in the 2006-2007 season where they got swept by Tim Duncan’s spurs despite LeBron having the most points and assists in the series. People like to bash LeBron for leaving the Cavs but they don’t know what they’re talking about, he gave them everything. It’s not LeBron’s fault for the cavs front office failures because given the situation, he was damn near perfect on the court.

    • @charles-cjbox4661
      @charles-cjbox4661 Před 3 měsíci

      Danny Ferry, Jim Paxson, Dan Gilbert going to hell for deplorable decision

    • @ricardolozano5356
      @ricardolozano5356 Před 3 měsíci +20

      how does a bad team win 66 games

    • @amastargaming5156
      @amastargaming5156 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@ricardolozano5356lebron

    • @gokuswanson2037
      @gokuswanson2037 Před 3 měsíci +98

      ​@ricardolozano5356 when they have the greatest player in history bad teams can win games

    • @ricardolozano5356
      @ricardolozano5356 Před 3 měsíci +9

      @gokuswanson2037 who's fault is it when they lose?

  • @Sai4651
    @Sai4651 Před 3 měsíci +127

    4:49 - The instant I heard mental health I knew that a Better Help Ad was coming

  • @PER578
    @PER578 Před 3 měsíci +99

    I am huge lebron fan, but i wasn't around with his first stint with the cavs and this documentary helps me understand him much better

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 3 měsíci +1

      No it doesn't....lebron choked a bunch back then...fact is he had enough to make many finals with the cavs and win the 2010 title

    • @ineveryuniverse3953
      @ineveryuniverse3953 Před 3 měsíci +27

      @@razkableI really hope your joking…because it doesn’t take a genius to know he had FAR from enough to win a finals in that first stint

    • @lolomo5787
      @lolomo5787 Před 3 měsíci +13

      ⁠@@razkablehe had enough to make the finals? The moment he left cleaveland started getting number 1 picks lol. He is carrying scrubs his first stint and cleaveland. Im not even a lebron or cavs fan

    • @BooBooDaFoo330
      @BooBooDaFoo330 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@razkable LMAO he led this shit franchise to the finals in 2007 and had back to back win 60 seasons in 2009 and 2010 and averaged 30 in the playoffs. Yeah he definitely choked

    • @bmbrowns1778
      @bmbrowns1778 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @le Jordan wouldn't have done sh*t with that cavs team either. Jordan is nothing without Pippen. top 5 player of his time and Jordan had him his whole career
      edit. Not whole career but for all of his rings

  • @DeadPlayin
    @DeadPlayin Před 3 měsíci +42

    holy smokes, these videos are so well made bro 🙏 it’s always a great time watching them. great music choices too 🫡

    • @solemagus4761
      @solemagus4761 Před 3 měsíci +1

      * Shot for 22ppg, .395fg, .200 3pt, .69 FT% and commited 23 of the Cavs 44 turnovers in 07 Finals while Media and Bronsexuals blamed teammates

  • @RomnysGonzalez
    @RomnysGonzalez Před 3 měsíci +193

    The 2009 finals... The Kobe vs LeBron final is forever gonna be one of the biggest "what if" in sport history

    • @wavoe368
      @wavoe368 Před 3 měsíci +5

      As a kid I was so excited for this matchup

    • @jamalwalker
      @jamalwalker Před 3 měsíci +16

      Lakers win in 5

    • @hsfazal00
      @hsfazal00 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@jamalwalkerbron & the cavs winning in 6

    • @darnellwilliams8783
      @darnellwilliams8783 Před 3 měsíci +8

      ​@@hsfazal00Lebron choked against the Magic in 09 yall gotta stop lying lebron had help he had Big Z mo willaims boobie Gibson and Ben Wallace and drew Gooden

    • @williamtoad8040
      @williamtoad8040 Před 3 měsíci +8

      Unfortunately Dwight happened to choke the shit out of those finals who went from 25.8ppg on 65% FG in the 2009 ECF to 15.5ppg on 48% FG in the Finals

  • @mar.cus15
    @mar.cus15 Před 3 měsíci +32

    congrats on the first sponsorship man, glad to see your hard work paying off 🎉🎉

    • @theshooterman3
      @theshooterman3 Před 3 měsíci +2

      his first sponsorship is with a shady company :(

    • @jacobporter419
      @jacobporter419 Před měsícem +1

      His first sponsor was a god awful company

  • @aappaapp6627
    @aappaapp6627 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I love the editing and memes you've been including recently!

    • @Courtside3661
      @Courtside3661 Před 3 měsíci

      I made a video on how incrediable Lebron James was during his tenure with the Miami Heat, If you could check it out it would be much appreciated.

  • @SnuggieMaple
    @SnuggieMaple Před 3 měsíci +17

    It will always make me angry how the Cavaliers fans reacted to Lebron leaving when he carried the franchise so much even that bum team to the finals!
    And then when he finally was done with it and left they burned the home town hero’s jerseys

    • @Courtside3661
      @Courtside3661 Před 3 měsíci

      I made a video on how incrediable Lebron James was during his tenure with the Miami Heat, If you could check it out it would be much appreciated.

  • @demonreacts7816
    @demonreacts7816 Před 3 měsíci +125

    Those Cavs were 60+ win teams sometimes, but what’s sad about em is that most of it was cuz of LeBron. It’s also sad that revisionists use those Cavs teams to criticize him, as if Mo Williams, Larry Huges, an old Shaq and Big Z was apparently more than enough help for him.

    • @volkarach0293
      @volkarach0293 Před 3 měsíci +9

      excuses for lebron. big z was one of the best centers in the nba at this time...kids today didnt witness the time and lebron fan goofballs from back in the days forgott the reality

    • @kolovikon2118
      @kolovikon2118 Před 3 měsíci +19

      Well let me get it clear: if it's 60+ wins team it's because of LbJ if they fail it's because teammates suck? How about "LBJ makes his teammates better" or it only works with the all-stars?

    • @jadencedras6878
      @jadencedras6878 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Like at no point did anyone think they were actually gonna get a series on the lakers spurs and later the celtics while they were good defensively they were a horrible offensive team relying on lebron to carry and those spurs magic and celtic series show it

    • @demonreacts7816
      @demonreacts7816 Před 3 měsíci +55

      @@volkarach0293 I grew up in the 2000s, at no point was Big Z up there with guys like Shaq, Ben Wallace, Dwight Howard, Yao Ming or even Marcus Camby. Hell, even if u count PFs that played center, like Dirk, Timmy D, KG or Amar’e, Big Z wasn’t even in the top 10. “Kids these days.” All the comments I see from u is complaining about LeBron LIKE a kid, ur point literally has no meaning.

    • @mcjr1989
      @mcjr1989 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Iverson had more trash teammates but he still won games against laker in finals

  • @anygoodmedia
    @anygoodmedia Před 3 hodinami

    I've been watching YT for a long time watched so many channels that have now become obsolete but coming across this channel I have finally found my favourite genre of video, historical sports docs

  • @jamesultranba
    @jamesultranba Před 3 měsíci +60

    Yessir it’s always a good day when Dylan uploads

  • @zaidkidwai7831
    @zaidkidwai7831 Před 3 měsíci +26

    Love your videos man. Great storytelling and editing.

    • @AlanBaller10
      @AlanBaller10 Před 3 měsíci

      His vids are ass lol he's a nobody talking about NBA players how they failed lol bro don't talk about how he's falling in his life rn lol tf this guy do huh

    • @Courtside3661
      @Courtside3661 Před 3 měsíci

      I made a video on how incrediable Lebron James was during his tenure with the Miami Heat, If you could check it out it would be much appreciated.

  • @kawhileonardsburner6792
    @kawhileonardsburner6792 Před 3 měsíci +396

    The title should really be “How the Cleveland Cavaliers failed LeBron James”
    Edit: w title change

    • @MadGunny
      @MadGunny Před 3 měsíci +48

      That’s what the title is now, what was it before?

    • @SnuggieMaple
      @SnuggieMaple Před 3 měsíci

      @@MadGunnyidk

    • @kawhileonardsburner6792
      @kawhileonardsburner6792 Před 3 měsíci +33

      @@MadGunnyit was “how lebron james failed the Cleveland Cavaliers”

    • @sparkyfister
      @sparkyfister Před 3 měsíci +11

      @@kawhileonardsburner6792 that's what it should be

    • @slinkybeans2442
      @slinkybeans2442 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@sparkyfisternuh uh

  • @brokenglass0642
    @brokenglass0642 Před 3 měsíci +2

    This is a great part 1, cant wait to see what part 2 looks like!

    • @Courtside3661
      @Courtside3661 Před 3 měsíci

      I made a video on how incrediable Lebron James was during his tenure with the Miami Heat, If you could check it out it would be much appreciated.

  • @mobilebosco
    @mobilebosco Před 3 měsíci

    Love to see you getting a sponsor man!! Your content is always so entertaining you deserve all the success

  • @jimmytheenlightenedcentrist
    @jimmytheenlightenedcentrist Před 3 měsíci +5

    Dylan I love the P5 soundtrack choices. You use that shit real well.

  • @OsyrisCorleone
    @OsyrisCorleone Před 3 měsíci +63

    Bro’s a JRPG fan, I love it lol

    • @sfzndo
      @sfzndo Před 3 měsíci +10

      facts, when the persona 5 mementos music hit I was vibing

    • @JJ23
      @JJ23 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Dog ever since playing persona 5 I swear I can’t do anything without hearing at least one song off the sound track (it’s so good I love it)

    • @OsyrisCorleone
      @OsyrisCorleone Před 3 měsíci

      @@JJ23 ahahaha I peeped the xenosaga too

    • @jacobswerbensky662
      @jacobswerbensky662 Před 3 měsíci

      I thought my playlist was playing over the video for a second when freedom and peace came on 😂

    • @syts77
      @syts77 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Ok nerds

  • @jalen4945
    @jalen4945 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Your videos are great man keep it up!!

  • @87alock
    @87alock Před 3 měsíci +58

    9:17. Man that roster made me physically cringe

    • @Joswag
      @Joswag Před 3 měsíci +19

      Look at the 2001 Sixers to be disgusted as well

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 Před 3 měsíci +18

      Exactly and they act like that's a Finals roster to go up against. Prime Dùncan,Parker and Ginobli

    • @Mrballerize
      @Mrballerize Před 3 měsíci +7

      Tripping. That was a solid defensive roster, with all star help in Zydrunas Ilgaskus; and all nba 1st team defensive help in Larry Hughes.

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@Bigedub101I mean 9 of those 10 that played were the core of the next year finals team plus they kept newble as well and he played so that makes 10...just add rookie gibson replace murray with him plus play more sasha less snow and damon and you have the main 11 playoff rotation guys on a finals team...the 12th man played like a few minutes total in the playoffs that year so....

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Joswagsnow is on both teams what a coniciendence

  • @stringfalafel7692
    @stringfalafel7692 Před 3 měsíci +33

    Respect for the pokemon music 💯

  • @cl5rys
    @cl5rys Před 3 měsíci +4

    couldnt have said it better, ive thought of this for a long time but recently it really hit me then i see this

  • @1farin
    @1farin Před 3 měsíci +2

    These video qualities are getting better and better

  • @BBallGOAT
    @BBallGOAT Před 3 měsíci +72

    Thanks for this Dylan. A lot of MJ and Kobe fans blame LeBron for leaving Cleveland, but Cleveland never really built a solid supporting cast around LeBron. MJ threatened to leave in his earlier years as mentioned in Sam Smith's 1991 Jordan Rules book, and Kobe threatened to leave the Lakers for the Bulls I believe in 2007 after losing 4-1 in the Western Conference First Round vs the Phoenix Suns. I'm ok if you think MJ is the GOAT, I think the whole GOAT Debate is really subjective at the end of the day, but LeBron left Cleveland because they were not building around him and also there are rumours of personal issues with teammates.

    • @MigIgg
      @MigIgg Před 3 měsíci +10

      Yeah, and if it wasn’t for Scottie Pippen stepping up at the time and the Lakers acquiring Pau Gasol, then things would have been alot different today

    • @kurtcometa4818
      @kurtcometa4818 Před 3 měsíci +14

      The difference is the competence of their respective teams. The Bulls and the Lakers handle their stars' frustrations by making smart moves by drafting or trading great players to complement their stars and it paid off. I once hate Lebron because of this move but I'm still young back then and don't know shit so looking back I'm thinking right now that shit I'm glad Bron left that sorry ass organization

    • @orbit5311
      @orbit5311 Před 3 měsíci +3

      for the record i think Kobe is the goat and i don’t blame lebron for leaving

    • @juliuscaesar6994
      @juliuscaesar6994 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Bruh, lebron won in CLE😂.. Thanks kyrie lmfao.. But beside the fact, it's not like he's had trouble finding help, so why leave???.. Because he was losing?? Nobody else have 6Ls but bron

    • @bmbrowns1778
      @bmbrowns1778 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@juliuscaesar6994 nobody else has 6 Ls in the finals because they aren’t good enough to go to the finals 10 times. What a stupid argument

  • @raavenzen6100
    @raavenzen6100 Před 3 měsíci +8

    The super mario 64 music in the background is just 👌

  • @tzwen70
    @tzwen70 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Love the videos

  • @Westlander857
    @Westlander857 Před 3 měsíci +32

    15:30 I had foot surgery the day LBJ hit that buzzer beater, and I remember springing up from my chair right onto my wounded foot. Thankfully I didn’t mess it up any more, but that’s one his top career highlights for sure.

  • @watershed6092
    @watershed6092 Před 3 měsíci +13

    6:15 The Cavs didn’t trade two unprotected first round picks for him.
    They traded their own 2007 pick - which was top-10 protected.
    They already owed their 2005 playoff-protected pick to Charlotte, and in order to complete the Jiri Welsch deal they chose to unprotected.
    I know this is a mouthful, but you really should clarify this when you are making a video.

    • @JWex-jy7sk
      @JWex-jy7sk Před 3 měsíci +2

      That and when he talks about Larry Hughes and Michael Redd he says “They chose the wrong guy”
      Well they didn’t choose Hughes. I’m a Bucks fan and can tell you Redd has gone out and said it was loyalty that had him re-sign with Milwaukee. They were kind of left with no choice but to chose Hughes cause Redd rejected them

  • @EricTheActor805
    @EricTheActor805 Před 3 měsíci +23

    Do a video on The 2004 Charlotte Bobcats Expansion Team
    They tried to do the smart thing and tried to build a team for the future, it didnt work, all of their picks were busts. They sucked.
    How do you think they would have done if they built a win now team?
    In the expansion draft they could have taken veterans like Antoine Walker from Dallas, Jerry Stackhouse from Washington, Chucky Atkins from Boston, Eddie Jones from Miami, Ruben Patterson from Portland and some younger guys like Matt Barnes from LAC, Jason Kapono from Cleveland, Zaza Pachulia from Orlando, Gerald Wallace from Sacramento
    In the draft they would have had the 4th pick and their choice of Shaun Livingston, Devin Harris, Josh Childress or Luol Deng. None are franchise cornerstones but all had better careers than Emeka Okafor
    I think that would have been a year 1 playoff team with a 29 year old Jerry Stackhouse getting 15/3/2 in 30mpg at SG/SF and a 27 year old Antoine Walker giving 20/9 at PF,
    I think that Bobcats team, with the sake of hindsight knowing how bad they were at drafting and developing talent and knowing how leadless they were. They definitely would have benefited from having a more veteran roster and they would have benefited from having later picks in the draft, assuming that's a playoff team the first 2 or 3 years.
    The Bobcats expansion draft is a super intetesting topic thats never talked about. Looking back with the benefit of hindsight, what do you think was the best possible team they could have built with the expansion draft and their 2004 draft picks?

  • @redriot3008
    @redriot3008 Před 3 měsíci +18

    Whenever I watch Dylan’s video I always sit down and grab something to eat it’s like a mini movie 🍿 ❤

  • @ricardojurado5544
    @ricardojurado5544 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Let’s gooo new video

  • @IliasKoureas
    @IliasKoureas Před 3 měsíci

    Congrats on your first Sponsor brother!

  • @euro51116
    @euro51116 Před 3 měsíci +107

    I've always thought that Lebron being drafted by his hometown Cavs, and thus having his legacy be attached to them forever, was the worst thing that could have happened for his career.

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 měsíci +11

      It's the best to me, in abstract and substantially, the challenge, the connection, the ride, the downs, the thriving, the adversities.
      The 2016 comeback though, it's mainly because of that of course. Perfect.
      Thank god that he left and went to another eastern team though. And then returned ready and with some great moments like the 2012 series vs the Celtics and the 2012 Finals.
      If he was a Zion instead, of course It would've been already a ruined situation from the start and without anything to show for.

    • @ericejoaquin
      @ericejoaquin Před 3 měsíci +18

      In retrospect him leaving taught him how to win at the highest level. When he came back to the Cavs he knew what was necessary from himself and his teammates.

    • @jonathank786
      @jonathank786 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Honestly it’s not a bad case but his career still went a good direction does make you think how dominant he’d be on any decent team in that era

    • @euro51116
      @euro51116 Před 3 měsíci +28

      @@dusk6159 2016 alone would put anyone else in the HOF, First ballot. I agree when Chuck says he is the greatest sports story of all time, but still i feel like had he drafted to a even remotely competent team, like Curry, KD, DWade, or MJ he would be the undisputed goat (and im a bulls fan lol)
      People give him shit calling him "LeGM" but its always been a compliment to me. It's because of the content in this video that he had to build that mindset because he couldnt trust his own front office to do any moves. Curry nor MJ ever had to lead and manage to magnitude of LeBron because they had organically built culture and elite coaching to rely on, Lebron never got to have that luxury outside of maayybe Miami (even then it wasnt to the level of the warriors or bulls).
      I still can't believe the Cavs owner publicly shitting on Lebron while he was already being shit on, the hate is uncomparable lol

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@euro51116 You're right on, that's the main point (plus wondering the if "everything was easier, set up and conducive to rack up things and greatness", he might even wonder and want that more than the ideal unanimous support for his boatload of hard and harsh adversities and accomplishments, which who knows if he would do and accept all over again, but I and we are for sure thankful that he doesn't have a magical choice of that kind). But, although I am more talking from a specific viewer perspective, not the majority of viewer's one, instead of if I were him, I would still stick with that story, past (not intending and meaning to necessarily mention the life stuff, although the struggle of not having a father contributes to the magic, hope and battle - despite being always blessed and talented in skills and body of course - , and ultimate success), rise and comeback. It is just special and also outside of the standard things (MJ's doing being for example superior to any other, even over Kareem and his own titles, besides the evaluation with Lebron who holds up).
      After all, rightfully so obviously, there are still loads of sectors calling him the goat.

  • @Gator656
    @Gator656 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Bro PLEASE POST MORE

  • @thehomiejonathan3720
    @thehomiejonathan3720 Před 3 měsíci +2

    DYLAN UPLOADED AND ON A FRIDAY TOO 💯🎉

  • @spjr99
    @spjr99 Před 3 měsíci +41

    I am a LeBron fan. I am also a jordan fan. They accomplished different things. If LeBron for his first seven years had got proper help, or at the very least not completely incompetent front office, I would conservatively assume he would have another ring. It is just crazy to see them give up on amazing players for dogshit ones

    • @gokuswanson2037
      @gokuswanson2037 Před 3 měsíci

      Jordan was in a good situation. Not good enough to win but not bad enough to get great picks (very similar to lebron except Jordan's teams were a bit worse) I agree with your assessment. It's rare to see people make logical points like this, well done

    • @Dimesprodz
      @Dimesprodz Před 3 měsíci

      I’m a fan of both too 😂. I’m too young for the Jordan era but he’s my favorite all time and Bron’s my seconds favorite.

    • @PHXNKVHXLIC
      @PHXNKVHXLIC Před 3 měsíci +7

      Would MJ have left Chicago for a better fit if Chicago never got Scottie? MJ fans don’t want to admit that acting like MJ was any good with mid rosters. The man has a negative W-L record in his career without Scottie and 1-9 in playoff series lol

    • @1stAmendmentorDie1776
      @1stAmendmentorDie1776 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@gokuswanson2037jordan came into s way worse situation.

    • @1stAmendmentorDie1776
      @1stAmendmentorDie1776 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@PHXNKVHXLICwould scottie have been who he wss without the goat next to him. No.
      Yall over hyping scottie so much.
      Meanwhile lebron has been outplayed by numerous guys in the finals.

  • @ForzasPanda
    @ForzasPanda Před 3 měsíci +4

    Never thought I’d hear “Respect Your Elders” from Smash Melee on an NBA video 😭😭

  • @sychobones3788
    @sychobones3788 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Michael redd has gone on record saying he chose the bucks. Larry hughes was the 3rd option they wanted, first 2 being ray allen, then michael redd. Get ya facts straight bro

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway Před 3 měsíci

      He chose the $$$$

    • @sychobones3788
      @sychobones3788 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@DMalltheway from the interview, I saw it sounded like it was more a comfort thing since he started his career in Milwaukee, and they took a chance on him with him being a second rounder. I believe he stated that on all the smoke, but I may be wrong. He also said that he regrets not going to Cleveland because he feels like if he was on the Cavs when they played the Spurs they could’ve won.

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@sychobones3788 Cavs didn’t offer as much as MIL, that’s what it came down to and honestly it wouldn’t have made the Cavs much better.

  • @hlb_thegoat272
    @hlb_thegoat272 Před 3 měsíci +2

    i love your vids brooooo they so good

  • @GALuigi
    @GALuigi Před 25 dny

    4:59 lmao knew it was a betterhelp ad right here.

  • @breonwilliams7
    @breonwilliams7 Před 3 měsíci +6

    I never understood why the Cavaliers couldn’t get LeBron the help he needed in his first stint with them, but in his 2nd stint he got a lot more help. I feel like it’s because in LeBron 2nd run with the Cavs he knew what it took to win a championship.

    • @TheForkOnTheLeftist
      @TheForkOnTheLeftist Před 3 měsíci +1

      LeBron Stans still make the same excuse no matter how much help he gets. No one wants to consider maybe he's just not that guy

  • @vladleon2307
    @vladleon2307 Před 3 měsíci +13

    The 21 years of seeking help. This guy took "stop it, get some help" to literally

    • @Betroid
      @Betroid Před 3 měsíci +2

      Mj didn’t have to look his legendary gm sat hall of fame players on his lap

  • @TomSports._
    @TomSports._ Před 3 měsíci

    DYLAN WITH ANOTHER VIDEOOOO

  • @gunprojects5398
    @gunprojects5398 Před 2 měsíci +2

    love the subtle nod to the Corneria theme from SSBM lol

  • @monkeymoo87
    @monkeymoo87 Před 3 měsíci +37

    Lmao Cavs didn’t want to trade JJ Hickson and Igauskas 😂

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Just shameful

    • @bfns23
      @bfns23 Před 3 měsíci +8

      Pathetic. LeBron should've left way sooner. Then the owner had the nerve to write that abysmal letter slandering LeBron. What a punk

    • @IcePhoen1x694
      @IcePhoen1x694 Před 3 měsíci +8

      Yeah wtf was he thinking? Originally I knew the cavs office was incompentent, but I didn't know they passed up on Stoudemire to keep a 2k generated player JJ Hickson. And then lebron left and he said cavs would win before lebron. Like what?

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 3 měsíci

      They didn't want to risk losing young cheap trade asset hickson for just a few months of amare without lebron committing to stay...they could of lost amare and lebron that summer and it didn't guarantee a title...jamison made more spacing sense with varejao shaq big z on the roster...

    • @YGacs
      @YGacs Před 2 měsíci

      @@razkable nah. the cavs DEFINITELY would've reached or even won the finals if they had amare that season. If the cavs were close to beating the celtics WITHOUT amare, imagine what they could've done if he WAS there.

  • @fevers94
    @fevers94 Před 3 měsíci +8

    I love your vids but saying the Cavs chose Hughes over Redd is a straight up falsehood. The Cavs offered Redd the maximum amount of money they could and he chose to re-sign with the bucks. They obviously wanted him more but there is nothing more they could have done. Its easy to dunk on them for not getting the guy in hindsight but shitty to say they chose anyone over him when they offered him the max they could and he didnt want to sign regardless.

    • @watershed6092
      @watershed6092 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Exactly. I like his videos too but he’s missing many key aspects, including the Jiri Welsch trade, which I commented about. The Cavs did not trade two unprotected first round picks.

    • @user-zs2td2fo2e
      @user-zs2td2fo2e Před 22 dny

      @@watershed6092 all that was fine but giving up amare was litteraly terrible

  • @ReeverN21
    @ReeverN21 Před 3 měsíci +2

    That Mario 64 music at 13:20 🔥🔥

  • @richborn6700
    @richborn6700 Před 3 měsíci

    Secret Base also has a really in depth two part documentary about the Cavaliers. Part one is the formation and early struggles, part two is an hour long video on LeBrons first stint in Cleveland. I recommend watching both

  • @rjcarless
    @rjcarless Před 3 měsíci +4

    Biggest mistake was not trading JJ Hickson for Amare Stoudemire.

  • @JamRap
    @JamRap Před 3 měsíci +4

    Persona music goes crazy

  • @newpancakeman
    @newpancakeman Před 3 měsíci +2

    AYY MY BOY GETTING SPONSORSHIPS NOW!!

  • @quanttg3
    @quanttg3 Před 2 měsíci

    That “huh” at 18:15 killed me 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @0AEROPLANES0
    @0AEROPLANES0 Před 3 měsíci +4

    KEEP THE GOAT VID COMING

  • @paulusrumanouw3176
    @paulusrumanouw3176 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Cleveland in 2009 & 2010 was actually seeded no.1 in the league with 66w and 61w, so they did have a strong team to win it all or at least expected to be in the Finals with home court advantage through out.

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 3 měsíci

      The 2010 cavs were built to make the finals and challenge bryant....lebron had already decided the summer before that he was leaving...that 10 cavs team after the jamison trade was nice af...they had delonte varejao gibson hickson big z off the bench with shaq jamison bron mo will and parker starting...in 2010 that's a finals roster

    • @paulusrumanouw3176
      @paulusrumanouw3176 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@razkable yeah so the notion that the Cavs organization failed LBJ by surrounding him with bums is not entirely true!

    • @TheForkOnTheLeftist
      @TheForkOnTheLeftist Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@paulusrumanouw3176of course it isn't. someone should make a video comparing that Magic/Cavs series to Nuggets/Lakers last year. The team is good enough, but is Lebron good enough in the big moments?

    • @Chef_curry_30.
      @Chef_curry_30. Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@TheForkOnTheLeftistexpecting LeBron to carry this team at 39 is the biggest reach typical Michael Jorgamble fanboy 😭🙏

    • @TheForkOnTheLeftist
      @TheForkOnTheLeftist Před 2 měsíci

      @@Chef_curry_30. first off Kobe is my goat so great job assuming and being wrong lol. Secondly, who said anything about carrying? The team got him into the big moment and he gagged. Game one he missed an idiotic early shot clock 3, game 2 he missed a practically wide open layup, and game four he missed two straight clutch shots in a row when he had wide open teammates. You can't even make the dumb excuse that he "made the right play" lol he choked just like many other years. Keep slurping though

  • @Noifsnobutsnococonuts-rj4kk
    @Noifsnobutsnococonuts-rj4kk Před 3 měsíci +2

    The legend is back

  • @theycallmekobi
    @theycallmekobi Před 3 měsíci

    I haven't watched the video and i know this is banger

  • @alfasiger4178
    @alfasiger4178 Před 3 měsíci +10

    Nuggets got the same problem regarding reliance. When Jokic goes off the floor, they dont know what to do. Too much reliance on one player increases losing chances.

    • @Idontknowhoiamanymore
      @Idontknowhoiamanymore Před 3 měsíci

      Difference Jokic won a ring

    • @Vyuel
      @Vyuel Před 3 měsíci +19

      Nuggets still good tho, didn't they beat the clippers without Jamal Murray and Jokic by like 20 earlier this season? An actual WORLD of difference in supporting cast lmao

    • @alfasiger4178
      @alfasiger4178 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@VyuelYeah, but lost every other game with both teams having full rosters.

    • @gokuswanson2037
      @gokuswanson2037 Před 3 měsíci +8

      ​@@Idontknowhoiamanymorethe difference is Joker had a solid team and great Robin

    • @Idontknowhoiamanymore
      @Idontknowhoiamanymore Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@gokuswanson2037 you guys love making excuses for lefraud

  • @schmidtytime
    @schmidtytime Před 3 měsíci +18

    babe wake up, dylandoesbasketball dropped a new video

  • @buzzlightskin_
    @buzzlightskin_ Před 19 dny

    pyro outro goes hard

  • @courtneymitchell5940
    @courtneymitchell5940 Před 2 měsíci

    11:44 Boston with the bowser music???! Yes! 🙌🏾 😂

  • @JohnEmmanuel-sc9qu
    @JohnEmmanuel-sc9qu Před 3 měsíci +4

    First Team All-Cardio is crazy 💀💀

  • @Munozway
    @Munozway Před 7 dny

    The Pokémon battle music lol

  • @jotelesmash8566
    @jotelesmash8566 Před 3 měsíci

    No way you used persona 5 music for this vid, damm man love this video.

  • @nathanlong1908
    @nathanlong1908 Před 3 měsíci +4

    1st team all cardio is hilarious 🤣

  • @jasonvelasco90
    @jasonvelasco90 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Dylan you always cook bro

  • @arfaannoermahomed3443
    @arfaannoermahomed3443 Před měsícem +2

    Can you make a video about the new orleans Hornets

  • @SCSAsJorts
    @SCSAsJorts Před 3 měsíci

    The more and more as time went the Cavs Org and fan bases reaction to him using his well, free agent ability was so wild, they never needed to “break the bank” but literally never seemed to try and make savvy moves

  • @christophermauro-barias7451
    @christophermauro-barias7451 Před 3 měsíci +11

    im so glad players like Kobe and MJ didnt give up and People like Jerry Buss and Krause werent stupid

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 3 měsíci +4

      Kobe was given shaq ceballos elden van exel old scott and horry to start and then got jones and fox and then harper and a.c. shaw and rice...he was fine early on....

    • @christophermauro-barias7451
      @christophermauro-barias7451 Před 3 měsíci

      given? no more like they were already there lol@@razkable

    • @BooBooDaFoo330
      @BooBooDaFoo330 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Bruh what are you talking about? Kobe was ready to walk outta LA in 2008 until Jerry West saved his ass with Pau Gasol

    • @christophermauro-barias7451
      @christophermauro-barias7451 Před 3 měsíci

      @@BooBooDaFoo330 you mean when he wanted a trade and said it publicly and rescinded it after he was talked to by the org?

    • @BooBooDaFoo330
      @BooBooDaFoo330 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@christophermauro-barias7451 do you remember when Kobe quitted in game 7 against the Suns in 2006 after blowing a 3-1 lead 😂

  • @loudy12
    @loudy12 Před 3 měsíci +2

    3:49 the way the cavs let boozer go was nasty worl

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 3 měsíci

      They replaced boozer money with gooden varejao more big z and marshall plus big ben...I think it worked personally....boozer wasn't worth it...they had more depth without him over those years after 04

  • @babypluto1944
    @babypluto1944 Před 3 měsíci

    Am I tripping or is that Pokémon music in the background? I love it

  • @uncleGravey5
    @uncleGravey5 Před 3 měsíci +6

    This guy is the Emplemon of basketball, I love it 😂👍🏼💯

  • @JuanTonSoupXP
    @JuanTonSoupXP Před 3 měsíci +8

    Can we get an elbow reveal? The people wanna see bro

  • @jacobswerbensky662
    @jacobswerbensky662 Před 3 měsíci

    Hearing Freedom and Peace come on made me a happy NBA/Persona fan 😂

  • @flynch4358
    @flynch4358 Před 3 měsíci

    love the vid as well as the persona 5 bg music❤

  • @jovenbron31
    @jovenbron31 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Imagine giving Lebron the help he needed early in his career, that would've sealed the goat debate.

  • @d444nnyy
    @d444nnyy Před 3 měsíci +12

    babe wake up dylan posted

  • @SnuggieMaple
    @SnuggieMaple Před 3 měsíci

    Yep

  • @markbeltran1021
    @markbeltran1021 Před 26 dny

    The Pokémon battle song 😂

  • @alanboi9470
    @alanboi9470 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Finally a Cleveland LeBron video

  • @1peidu
    @1peidu Před 3 měsíci +4

    19:20 We just gonna gloss over this one?

  • @carlpacquing2575
    @carlpacquing2575 Před 3 měsíci

    14:00 - Love the Persona 5 music!

  • @RomaniiCh
    @RomaniiCh Před 3 měsíci +2

    I remember that the Miami stuff happened when I was in the Middle School range and at the time I felt like he was being disloyal but when I got into my 20s I empathized with LeBron so much more. Granted The Decision is still kind of cheesy the circumstances surrounding his place in the NBA was something that I didn't realize how draining it must have been to be giving legendary performances for years and begging for help, only for the front office to give him a nearly retired Shaq and Anthony Parker while declining the deal to get Amar'e Stoudemire. I can't imagine how insulting and soul draining it is giving incredible performances year after year and being treated so cheaply and the Cleveland front office didn't deserve LeBron's work, especially now that we know how much effort and constant work he put into his body and craft. I'm happy that the Cleveland fans who treated LeBron well got closure in 2016, but that entire front office in the 2000s didn't deserve the amount of work LeBron put in. The silly comic sans letter is kind of really telling of that office's professionalism and arrogance, which made the huge record drop even more ironic after LeBron left (winning a Finals without LeBron, huh?).
    Another great video. I always drop what I'm doing when this channel uploads a new documentary.

  • @Nahaintnoway
    @Nahaintnoway Před 3 měsíci +4

    Babe wake up Dylan did more basketball

  • @t-god2439
    @t-god2439 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Also lebron beating the pistons imo is the pistons own fault. If they kept Ben Wallace. I don’t think Lebron is scoring 25 straight. As you can see the bulls had the #1 defense. And who did they have? Ben Wallace

  • @prolazoi774
    @prolazoi774 Před měsícem

    I didn't expect to hear Melee music in this LMFAO

  • @justlookingaround5476
    @justlookingaround5476 Před 3 měsíci

    Loved this video. Maybe video of Kobe’s legacy after Shaq left and his back to back?

  • @abcdlilbit11
    @abcdlilbit11 Před 3 měsíci +3

    👍🏻

  • @canismkit666
    @canismkit666 Před 3 měsíci +10

    Any time someone gives him shit for going to Miami they always leave out the part where cavs management did nothing to build a championship contender around him.

    • @bfns23
      @bfns23 Před 3 měsíci

      Exactly

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 3 měsíci

      Meh the only big mistake the cavs ever made was letting boozer go...and maybe drafting luke jackson so high...

    • @gobot581
      @gobot581 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@razkable thats not how running a franchise works. List the potential championship moves they made other than being lucky and getting a number 1 pick. In all the drafts, offseasons and trade deadlines just list the great moves in 7 years

  • @Delaretro_
    @Delaretro_ Před 3 měsíci

    The Pokémon music in the background 👍

  • @talesfromthetrip
    @talesfromthetrip Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm not saying LeBron is the GOAT or anything, but Jordan fans gloss over the fact what he had to deal with his first tenure as a Cavalier. Jordan was literally put in the perfect situation and when they got all those pieces together, they started winning. If they switched teams, I'm sure LeBron's career would look like Jordan's and then some. Plus, they brought in the greatest coach to put the cherry on top of those Bulls.

  • @_Paul_N
    @_Paul_N Před 3 měsíci +2

    LeBron should've toughed it out and stayed in Cleveland and probably would've won the city 1-3 more titles due to how garbage the Eastern Conference was at the time. One more decent role player would've taken the Cavs over the top since they cruised to the conference finals pretty much every year. Dude got impatient and took the easy way out when he joined the Heat. I don't care what anyone says 😄

  • @bandzyolo
    @bandzyolo Před 3 měsíci +4

    Cavs should of pulled a spurs move and tank once they saw bron really was him imagine if they got a top 3 pick early in bron career

    • @gokuswanson2037
      @gokuswanson2037 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Lebron was literally too good to tank lol. MJ was able to help his team more by being worse in his early years

    • @user-zy3kz1lw6b
      @user-zy3kz1lw6b Před 3 měsíci

      That was the problem LeBron was Good that there was not tank and when they missed the playoffs the first two years they were draft busts

    • @coreylevine8095
      @coreylevine8095 Před měsícem

      They did Tank and got Iring

    • @gokuswanson2037
      @gokuswanson2037 Před měsícem

      @@coreylevine8095 Lebron was in Miami..... and the cavs stayed in the lottery until lebron came back

  • @lukacostanza5793
    @lukacostanza5793 Před 3 měsíci

    Yo I never heard about that Welsh deal before that shit is wild lol

  • @Torchim49
    @Torchim49 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Danny Granger video next pls

  • @CJStew06
    @CJStew06 Před 27 dny +4

    "How the world failed LeBron" -that might as well be the title of his memoirs. Everything about this guy's career is a convoluted excuse about how everyone else sucks and he's the GOAT. Even in the way he responds to critics, it's always snotty and narcissistic. After he blew the series to the Mavs and scored 0 points in the 4Q of a game Miami lost by 3, he actually sat at the podium and said his critics have to go on living their miserable lives while he's rich and playing in the NBA-such an insecure and pathetic mindset for a competitor. And the apple doesn't fall far, because his fan base goes along with all of it. It's so bad now that we have revise history and burn down his former teammates (some of whom were all-stars), his past coaches and executives, past NBA generations, and anything else that can make LeBron stand over the ashes. It's all so entitled and self-centered and disrespectful to the other greats of the game, and frankly it's getting bad for basketball to have such a divisive figure trying to be the center of everything-after all, didn't he call himself "the sun." He acts like a cult leader. I can't wait for him to retire already.

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 Před 26 dny

      Says the Cavs failed Lebron, but didn't mention what the Cavs could have done better. In truth Lebron hurt himself in Cleveland when he extended his contract for only two years after his rookie contract was up.
      What free agent was going to come to Cleveland if they knew Lebron didn't want to commit? People blame Mo Williams, but Lebron was just as bad in the playoffs with his high turnover rate, missed free throws and going 1-8 from 3 in a few games especially against the Celtics in 2010.

  • @heretolevitateme
    @heretolevitateme Před 3 měsíci +4

    LeBron didn't win until Miami slid him to the 4, stopped clogging the paint and surrounded him with shooters. You can say a lot of things about those Cavs but surrounding him with Boozer or Amar'e or some other 6'9" guy who couldn't shoot wouldn't have got it done either.

    • @jaydot4956
      @jaydot4956 Před 3 měsíci +1

      You don’t know basketball bro, Amare was an all nba player who was at his peak in 2010, if you put him with Lebron in 2010 that’s like putting AD with a 25 year old Lebron. And all they would’ve had to give up was an old illgalskus and JJ hickson.

    • @heretolevitateme
      @heretolevitateme Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@jaydot4956Ah yes, Amare, who is well known for his postseason accolades, would have certainly gotten the Cavs over the postseason hump.

    • @jaydot4956
      @jaydot4956 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@heretolevitateme what was AD doing in the playoffs before he teamed up with Lebron? He joined Lebron and won a title his first year in LA and that was with a 35 year old Lebron, you mean to tell that Lebron in his athletic peak couldn’t win a championship with prime Amare??? Are you high?

    • @user-zy3kz1lw6b
      @user-zy3kz1lw6b Před 3 měsíci

      ​Yes but no they also had three point shooters and ad was lockdown and that is was all LeBron teams need a knowdown three point shooters and a dude who can lockdown the paint

    • @user-zs2td2fo2e
      @user-zs2td2fo2e Před 22 dny

      @@user-zy3kz1lw6b not really. different era. every team sure needs shooters but at that time they dint need it. in 2009 magic beat cavs solely because they lacked big men. when they faced LA with odom gasol and bynum they got dominated. amare was litteraly enough