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Nearly a decade later, he returned to Cleveland, Kyrie left him and dragged his team again to the Finals facing another dynasty with three stars. I'm not his biggest fan but he deserves all the praise around him.
@@livingrentfree9596 first off, a true carry job is when you win. There was no winning each of those years. Second of all, the 6 teams he faced in the conference runs, none were an elite team: in both runs, he himself was the best player of either team. What happens when he faced an elite team each time? Swept. Swippity swept. You want to know a real carry job? 81 Larry, 94 Hakeem, 11 dirk…. Yea I bet you’ll remember that last one😂 you want to know a decent carry like Lebrons? 2001 AI. That little ass guy actually got atleast a win over those legendary lakers with Kobe and shaq. Lebron? 🧹 I know you won’t let all this into seep in to your mind and you’ll continue to be blissfully ignorant but I have to try and enlighten you
@@armando7257 Wanna know something? Who mentioned anything about other basketball players? The original comment was about the two biggest carry jobs by *LEBRON*, not the biggest carry jobs in history. Nice to know people are still coping and letting him live rent free in your heads. I could honestly argue against the emotional rant you gave me but I'll just let this "seep into your mind."
The fact that only 4 years removed from high school lebron was able to carry his team to the nba finals against a good wizards nets and pistons teams shows why he’s the goat.
@@DamianLillardno1glazer sure the east was laughably bad but still doesn't take away that LeBron went up against solid competition. Especially Detroit and Spurs
@@DamianLillardno1glazer so the nets who played in 2 finals with two hof carter and Kidd weren’t a good team the pistons who represented the ecf for the last 4 seasons at the point weren’t a good team Lebron had no help whatsoever that season or any season with the cavs tell me one player in nba history who would beaten that spurs teams or make it to the finals
We can't really compare LeBron and other guys like MJ because they all had different situations, managements, coaches, teams, eras, etc. We could use statistical data to potentially make a case. Such as LeBron dominating in the 90s as he is built like magic and Karl or MJ being able to shoot consistent from 3. The reason why people think LeBron flops or acts soft is to get the call because of the rule changes he has to change his playstyle too so do other players. MJ would also develop a good and dangerous 3 pointer if he needed too. What makes them HOF is that they are able to adapt to the change of the game.
@@Person-qh4oe in '07 the cavs bench outscored the Spurs by 9.5 points and they were the best rated defense in the league. they held Duncan to his worst finals numbers ever. Lebron turned the ball over 23 times in the series, got outscored by Tony Parker and shot 67% from the free throw line and poor % from the field. Bron wasn't skilled enough to make a solid team champions yet because of his subpar shooting.
@@_M.... without bron, could that cavs eveb reach playoffs? ur stupid enough to think ryt? they triple team lebron everytime, thats why, pathetic hater
Jason Kidd dragged his weak Nets team to finals two years in a row, and he didn't say nothing. Lebron did it once, and his fans could not shut up about it.
I don't think people understand that this whole "Lebron is 4/10 in the Finals" narrative is complete BS. He had to drag and carry his team to the finals on at least 4-5 of those finals appearances. Just speaks volumes to how great he really is, give this man the credit he deserves.
With the exception of the 2011 final loss to dallas, there was nothing he could have done in the other finals. He was up against two dynasties in the spurs and the warriors.
@@winsortse He lost 4 finals in Cleveland, 2007, 2015, 2017 and 2018. None of which were his fault, he had absolutely no chance of winning and was amazing in all of them.
To speak as unbiased as possible, the only finals loss that can TRULY be held against Lebron’s legacy is 2011. That was the only series where he didn’t play his ass off and he wasn’t the best player on his team (even though he had the ability to be). Every other finals, win or lose, he was either the best on the court or at the very least the best on his team. There’s always levels to this shit that most people leave out.
His 2011 finals loss is the only reason his bumass team didnt win. Imagine getting outplayed by JJ fuckin Barea bro. Wade has to get a million back massages after that series to keep carrying Lebum
People really underestimate LeBron's accomplishments. People say he's only 4/10 in the finals. But the way he got most of these finals is nothing short from spectacular. Don't trash the king
Especially one of those Ws was against the 73 win warriors after being down 3-1. I hardly ever hear anyone give credit for that win. The best playoff win in nba history
Rd 1: Arenas, Jamison, Butler Rd 2: Kidd, Carter, Jefferson ECF: Billups, Hamilton, Rasheed Finals: Duncan, Parker, Ginobili Nobody could do what Lebron did that year with that Cavs lineup. Literally "hero ball" because he was superman, batman and robin all at the same time
Arenas was injured and didn’t play both the nets and wizards won 41-41 games so stop acting like they were Elite pistons had won 3 more games than the cavs and no longer had Ben Wallace so the paint was wide open meaning they couldn’t stop the thing bron was best at which is driving to the rim( not to mention boobie Gibson had to save bron in the close out game by dropping 30 when bron shrank) well the Spurs could stop him and forced him to shoot jumpers. Let’s see how that went 22,7,7 5.8tov 1.5stl 0.5blk on 36%fg 23% 3pt
This is why LeBron is the GOAT, people argue Jordan’s rings but everyone knows he couldn’t do it without Pippen. LeBron came into the league with heavy pressure to be the best. His early years with the Cavs were not his fault, he gave it his all every year and no one helped. To be a young 22 year old star carrying an entire franchise in the best league, while millions watched is truly incredible. Yes, he lost, but can u blame him? Maybe having the greatest coach of all time, Phil Jackson and a couple Hall of Famer sidekicks could’ve helped. People also bring up his finals record 4-6, but again, who got them there?
exactly why blame lebron? he did everything and yet people still hate him because people cant accept that a boy from Akron Ohio is better then their idol Michael Jordan and lebron is the GOAT the king and lebron will always be the greatest in my eyes
You're forgetting he played half of his career in a historically bad Eastern conference. Once he faced good teams, he'd get beaten easily. Then he colluded and played with multiple top 5-10 guys to ring chase.
the fact that he stayed with the cavs for 7 or 8 yrs(if im not mistaken) and carry just shows that he tried and gave a chance to cavs FO to find him help and build around him.. but nothing came.. then ppl proceed to hating him for going to miami.. smh
Jordan will forever be better than Lebum cos he had to crawl his way out of the OP eastern conference. Thats why he was almost always a first round exit, because he faced larry fuckin bird, and a hall of fame squad with the damn cocaine circus. It was either that or the Bad Boy Pistons who hacked and slammed MJ to the damn floor. Lebron had weak competition. Thats why he got whooped in the ‘07 finals, cos thats the first time he faced true competition. Name me all the competitors for the championship in 2007. Just know, that most of them were in the WEST. Night night clowns
@@gerryambino8498And Duncan couldn't win without stars like Ginobli Parker Robinson and Kawhai. Kobe couldn't win wothout Shaq or Pau. MJ 1-9 before scottie.
Im not even a LeBron fan like that and I know still what this guy was able do so young with no male guidance is a crazy story tbh I grew up without my Dad there most my life to be able to keep urself in line is hardest part coming up as young man hats off to you man you did dam thing and became number 1 in scoring crazy
I saw many people saying he also had all stars when getting to the finals, when every team James team face in the finals (except for the Mavs) have 2 or three all stars. He also had to do extra work especially when most of "all stars" he teamed mostly have injuries.
I will never understand how making 10 finals is used as an argument against him. Don't get me wrong, the two Heat Finals losses (esp. the Mavs) you can put a fair amount of that on Bron, but the losses against the Warriors, and that 07' run you can't see those as arguments against him. Without him those teams don't make the finals, and in the case of the 07' and '18 teams they probably don't make the playoffs at all. He has been the reason for a team's final loss once, maybe twice depending on how you rate his performance against the Spurs. But the other 4 finals losses aren't failures for him, especially when you think about how many all time great players couldn't do for their teams, what became commonplace for him. We really take for granted how hard it is to make the NBA finals, and how crazy it is that he did it with that level of regularity.
@@juwantaylor5293 34/8/10 is choking? He arguably carried the 2018 team through the playoffs harder than he carried 2007, and 07 is like the textbook example of having no help on a team. In both those finals the same thing happened, Lebron couldn't single-handedly beat a top 10 roster of all time by himself (07 Spurs and 18 Warriors.) And again I ask, how is that an argument against him? At least Michael had Scottie for all his runs like damn you're gonna ask him to win a finals with Mo Williams or JR Smith as his second scorer? Cmon bro
@@johncena4096 I wouldn't blame him for that finals, but I can see the argument that if he's the goat he would've made it happen. Granted that's the highest bar you can possibly judge him by, but I can respect that point. Its not like the Mavs final where he was actively mediocre and unclutch
And people critize him for "the decision". The Cav's management was riding off his coattails. People were burning his jerseys and flaming him calling him le choke. He's not even in his prime yet, bought the team to Finals. Chill out.
im so guilty of unfairly using lebron getting swept in the finals in middle school-HS 2008-2012 i was a diehard kobe fan and was honestly just young and hated hearing that lebron was better when kobe was already established and lebron was just beginning to shape his legacy. kobes still my fave all time.
This roster may not have been great, but they were far better than y'all give them credit for. They were one of the best defensive teams in basketball along with having a respectable offense. All this team needed was that superstar #2 type player similar to what he got in Wade, Irving, and now AD later in his career.
@@cuthbertcoritico6754 Pretty bad by design since the roster is entirely built around him and his skillset rather than a teak system that utilizes everyone while having him as the centerpiece. It's wild how you all will celebrate him for that but then don't understand why his teams have difficulty functioning without him.
lebron getting that team to the finals is one of the most impressive things in ALL SPORTS HISTORY. it's insane he was able to do that. the team was bad. very very bad and he SINGLE HANDEDLY GOT THEM TO THE FINALS! insane. arguably more impressive than the 3-1 comeback, and that was some historic stuff.
@@sanathdeshpande.7759 there’s a lot of people who stopped watching bc of Bron And even if you’re right (you’re not, “most” people no, I’m sure “some” people yes) that doesn’t prove Brons the goat How is Bron the goat to you?
Wait he was 22???? They should honestly go back and give conference finals mvps. I just realzied how being the youngest player to win a confrence finals mvp would affect his legacy (and his 9 others he would have lol)
In June of 2007, a 22 year old led his team to the NBA finals in historic fashion! The next month, July of 07, the term “Big 3" was created, by bringing Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and KG together!🤣 LeBoogie Man Bron!👑
While spurs were already great and kobe bieng kobe with shaq. The piston and the wizards and young okc young d wade young rose young rondo young nash and more . Lastly prime D Howard . Single handeldy carry majic to finals. Prime dirk. Injured ming and tracy megredy will still make u suffer
Lebron is blameless in 2007, 2014, 2015, 2017 and 2018 finals losses. He played phenomenally and lost. Jordan is losing all 5 AND 2016 if he was in Lebron's shoes.
On the other hand, Jordan would go 4 out of 4 with that Heat squad from 2010-2014. That team was stronger than any squad that Jordan had with The Bulls.
The MJ Stans: LeBron doesn't have the 🔥"KILLER INSTICT"🔥. MJ would've found a way to win those Finals despite being smaller, less efficient, and being a worse playmaker than LeBron.
what are you talkng about? he avg 22 points, less than the 24.5 pts tony parker put up, and 23 turnovers in this series. his inefficient shooting is why the cavs lost the series. they lost games by thin margins and were the #1 defense in the NBA. this cultlike mental gymnastics is crazy.
@@_M.... yeah and then tim duncan admit himself 2007 all their eyes is on lebron thats how great he is, because hes the problem teammates of bron is just addons,
@@_M.... you solidified the point where if james score 5ppg less in a series, no one would step up for him, he literally had a 13ppg teammate as the next top scorer for cleveland
Prime 80s Celttics, Prime Showtime Lakers, Prime Bulls, Prime Shaq-Kobe, Prime GSW. These 5 alone are already better. 2014 Spurs were also great, 2013 Miami and so on.
Man, imagine if he has help he would’ve been the Youngest finals MVP! The previous series literally took a toll on his body, the wear and tear. Playing 43-46 minutes per game in playoffs was insane, played 78 regular season games.
@@KingTaylor-pl2el prick head he said if he had help he would get ring before .... Jordan wins his ring at the age of 28 the best teamate eaver. So jordan choke before he wins all that tite.
This is the reason why I think he is the best player I've ever seen. All of ya'll that hate hard on LeBron always just gloss over this. Who is the other players that reached the finals with no other all-star??? I'll wait...for you to change the subject.
Hakeem and he won playing harder competition bron played 2 41-41 win teams this playoffs and the wizards didn’t even have Gil cuz injury. The pistons had won 3 more games so ppl actin like the cavs were underdogs is far from true Larry Hughes before joining bron averaged 22ppg and led the league in steals before becoming a “scrub” as bron fans say and big z was a 2x all star 🤣🤣🤣 when mj had a 2x all star he won the chip
Pretty sure the 2011 Mavs only had 1x all star (and they had a much harder conference and actually won!! Bulls in 91 only had 1x all star and again they won!! 94 Rockets had 1 all star and won! I think 2003 Spurs too I won’t include the 2016 Cavs or 1998 Bulls bc the only reason they had 1 all star was due to injuries
That team did heavily rely on Lebron offensively as they were slightly above average, but far from Championship Caliber. However DEFENSIVELY Coach Brown had them boys 🔒 🆙
Damn bro Bron was plus 40 plus mins. I never knew that. I always wonder why was this young super athlete was got cramps. And there’s my answer. Over 45 mins in the playoffs? For 3 plus series? Wow
ALRIGHT... now I see lots of haters going like, "Oh oh, it's not a real carry job. He didn't have them win!!!" well, why are we expecting a 22-year-old Lebron who is still developing with a nobody team, to beat prime time Duncan, many Ginobili, and tony parker.
Lol Hakeem did it and won in 94 and big z was a 2x all star and Larry Hughes averaged 22ppg and led the league in steals all in the same year before joining bron and miraculously becoming what “a bum/scrub” 🤷🏿♂️🤣
@@JC-po5zy Wow, you really don't know the differences in rosters. Hakeem was great, but the Rockets also had Kenny Smith, Otis Thorpe, Robert Horry, Sam Cassel, Mario Ellie, and Vernon Maxwell (in their primes). Larry Hughes did NOTHING that year. What does the year prior have to do with THAT year?
@@lookfeelbehealthy6320 cuz ppl tell me Bron makes his teammates better soooo 🤣🤷🏿♂️y did Hughes not become better and all those players u named are roleplayers non were all stars bron had an all star teammate in big z lol
How about a 20 year old magic winning the title and getting the finals MVP. Won the college national title the year before. Won the state high school championship two years before that. Amazing.
To the LeBron haters who keep bringing up his 4-6 finals record, let's analyze it for a bit... 2007: Basically a young LeBron vs. prime Duncan, Parker & Ginobili 2011: Okay, we can give him criticism for that. 2012: Beat a team featuring KD, Russ & Harden; 3 future MVP's and Hall of Famers. 2013: Beat the mighty Spurs Dynasty. Yes, he got saved by Ray Allen, but let's not take away the greatness he showed in the finals (i.e. Paxson & Kerr). 2014: Again, vs. the Spurs Dynasty + a young Kahwi Leonard. 2015: Basically just LeBron vs. Steph, Klay, Draymond & Iggy. 2016: Beat the 72-9 Warriors. Greatest comeback in NBA Finals history. 2017: vs. the Warriors Dynasty + KD (?) At this point it's just not fair for the rest of the league. 2018: Same story, only this time, without Kyrie. 2020: Beat the Heat in 6 (idc if it's in the bubble, had they played in home arenas, Lakers would've still beaten Miami)
Yeah just brush off the biggest finals meltdown of any superstar in history. Gettin outplayed by JJ fkn Barea lmfaoo. Also 2020 was some bullcrap bubble ring and it was basically Butler vs the whole lakeshow
@@michaelspetsquirrel5372 not brushing off his 2011 Finals performance... like i said, we can give him criticism for that. He played bad (for a superstar), and there's no two ways around it. Also, yes... 2020 was basically Jimmy vs. LeBron & AD, but let's not forget that LeBron got into that same situation THRICE!!! 2007, 2015 & 2018... yet we don't invalidate those Spurs' and Warriors' rings. Just saying 😶
@@charlespatulin2802 Fr bro 😂 if lebron losses without help, they dont invalidate the opponent's ring but criticize Lebron instead, but if Lebron is on the other side, they invalidate his ring not criticize his opponent😂 so much hate
@@TreyDoe pistons only won cos kobe and shaq were feuding. If it wasnt for that lakers woulda gentleman swept them. In an interview, kobe and shaq themselves said this: Shaq: Ben Wallace guarding me? Kobe: That’s ridiculous
@@kellz1703 shit team in a shit conference wow what a surprise. Name me all the great teams and contenders of the 2000’s. You know what ill do it for u: Spurs Lakers Mavs Nuggets Suns What do these teams have in common? THEY ALL IN THE WEST
@@juwantaylor5293 he was only 22 years old at that time in his FIRST NBA Finals against an all-time great team and still led his team in scoring, so stfu.
And people keep talking about his 4-10 record in the finals. This is one of those trips and most of his loses are because of the warriors dynasty. He was not lucky unlike Mike he always needed to carry his team (except the Heat Team) and always lose in the finals. If he was not drafted by the Cavs he might be the goat right now.
I hate talking about it. MJ wouldn't survive playing against 2017-2018 Warriors nor the Spurs all in their primes,i'd say he could've won the 2014 ring and the 2015 one as well but i'd say his actual record if he had actual good enough cast is like a 4-7 record,like bro imagine going against 2 dynasties all in their primes? just isnt relalistic enough.
@@Foxy-rs3gp No way! Jordan in his prime would average 50 in today's game. No hand checking? 3 second defensive rule? That's BBQ chicken right there. Defense is a joke now, DPOY now pretty much means that you just played solid defense for a whole season. People don't realize that yes, Jordan was one of the best offensively, but he also was consistently one of the best defensive players in the league too for years and years. That's what made him so lethal. LeBron was always a good defender, but he was only a great defender for 3 or 4 years of his 20 seasons.
@@cole9777 50 is a bit too much. id say maximum 38ish but yeah Lebron could've won defensive player of the year instead of Marc Gasol but it is what it is,Jordan was a very good defender and is a great two way player but i just don't see him beating some other teams in the finals and that includes the warriors and spurs dynasty,Jordan would indeed put up a fight but would lose either way.if he had a good supporting cast then i'd say he could win some.
And y’all say he ring chased, no he had to leave and save his legacy. If the Cavs couldn’t do anything for him through 7 years, he was wasting his time. He left to get a ring or two, then came back and won one with the Cavs. He played his cards perfectly imo.
He lost this one essentially because he was a kid with no help. Take away the Miami years and he lost 2015 because after the Love and Irving injuries it was essentially 2007 all over again with Delly as his 2nd best player. He then beats a 73-9 team after coming back from 3-1 down. That 73-9 team then adds one of the best players in the league just to beat Bron. He then drags an Irvingless team back in 2018 that had no place being there. For all the Jordan 6-6 talk he didn't drag a team to the finals at age 22 and he never faced a team at a dynasty level.
The 2007 Cavs were a 20 win team without Lebron.
He didn't carry that team to the finals, he *DRAGGED* that team to the finals.
But they lost???
@@ThePrinceofallsayain cmon man don’t be hater
@@ThePrinceofallsayain
And it was 0% Lebron's fault, so what's your point?
Lebron and 3 Make-a-wish kids.
@@ThePrinceofallsayain bro shut up, what more can bruh do for a team.
Nearly a decade later, he returned to Cleveland, Kyrie left him and dragged his team again to the Finals facing another dynasty with three stars. I'm not his biggest fan but he deserves all the praise around him.
Lebron failed Cleveland. Lebron a scrub 🗑
@@juwantaylor5293 lebron brought them their first title in franchise history💀
@@eren5925 kyrie saved Cleveland that title 💯💯
@@juwantaylor5293 the most clutch in nba finals was by bron that game wym
@@eren5925 kyrie hit the clutchest shot in nba history to save Cleveland that 2016 ring 💯 facts
2007 and 2018 was 2 of the biggest carry jobs by Lebron
🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ unbelievable casual take
@@armando7257 It's true 🤷
@@armando7257 Yes, you are a casual
@@livingrentfree9596 first off, a true carry job is when you win. There was no winning each of those years. Second of all, the 6 teams he faced in the conference runs, none were an elite team: in both runs, he himself was the best player of either team. What happens when he faced an elite team each time? Swept. Swippity swept. You want to know a real carry job? 81 Larry, 94 Hakeem, 11 dirk…. Yea I bet you’ll remember that last one😂 you want to know a decent carry like Lebrons? 2001 AI. That little ass guy actually got atleast a win over those legendary lakers with Kobe and shaq. Lebron? 🧹 I know you won’t let all this into seep in to your mind and you’ll continue to be blissfully ignorant but I have to try and enlighten you
@@armando7257 Wanna know something? Who mentioned anything about other basketball players? The original comment was about the two biggest carry jobs by *LEBRON*, not the biggest carry jobs in history. Nice to know people are still coping and letting him live rent free in your heads. I could honestly argue against the emotional rant you gave me but I'll just let this "seep into your mind."
The fact that only 4 years removed from high school lebron was able to carry his team to the nba finals against a good wizards nets and pistons teams shows why he’s the goat.
lmfao played in the weak ass east and got swept the minute he played a decent team
@@DamianLillardno1glazer sure the east was laughably bad but still doesn't take away that LeBron went up against solid competition. Especially Detroit and Spurs
@@DamianLillardno1glazer so the nets who played in 2 finals with two hof carter and Kidd weren’t a good team the pistons who represented the ecf for the last 4 seasons at the point weren’t a good team
Lebron had no help whatsoever that season or any season with the cavs tell me one player in nba history who would beaten that spurs teams or make it to the finals
@@elmerperez6262 what about the nets the wizards were a good team back then
@@DamianLillardno1glazer the nets and pistons were some of the best teams in the league ur just hating for no reason
We can't really compare LeBron and other guys like MJ because they all had different situations, managements, coaches, teams, eras, etc. We could use statistical data to potentially make a case. Such as LeBron dominating in the 90s as he is built like magic and Karl or MJ being able to shoot consistent from 3. The reason why people think LeBron flops or acts soft is to get the call because of the rule changes he has to change his playstyle too so do other players. MJ would also develop a good and dangerous 3 pointer if he needed too. What makes them HOF is that they are able to adapt to the change of the game.
Well said
you can totally compare. who is better, lebron or pippen.
Probably a good point, I didn’t read it cause I’m lazy lmao
Shhh don’t tell anyone, or everyone at ESPN and first take will be out of a job.
the oldheads aint gonna like this one
This Cavs branding was on another level
Those blue jerseys were crazy
However our front office was absolute dog shit.
@@theendisnigh4497man I remember that shit
bro the cavs were in contention for the worst record of all time without lebron, people sleep on his greatness.
Lebron choked in 07 finals. That cavs team was solid
@@juwantaylor5293 name one player from that team other than LeBron without searching it up
@@Person-qh4oe in '07 the cavs bench outscored the Spurs by 9.5 points and they were the best rated defense in the league. they held Duncan to his worst finals numbers ever. Lebron turned the ball over 23 times in the series, got outscored by Tony Parker and shot 67% from the free throw line and poor % from the field. Bron wasn't skilled enough to make a solid team champions yet because of his subpar shooting.
@@_M.... without bron, could that cavs eveb reach playoffs? ur stupid enough to think ryt? they triple team lebron everytime, thats why, pathetic hater
@@Person-qh4oe name 1 great team they beat in 2007 playoffs.
Crazy to think this was a lifetime ago and he’s still at a high level. Longevity alone should be celebrated
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Jason Kidd dragged his weak Nets team to finals two years in a row, and he didn't say nothing. Lebron did it once, and his fans could not shut up about it.
I don't think people understand that this whole "Lebron is 4/10 in the Finals" narrative is complete BS. He had to drag and carry his team to the finals on at least 4-5 of those finals appearances. Just speaks volumes to how great he really is, give this man the credit he deserves.
With the exception of the 2011 final loss to dallas, there was nothing he could have done in the other finals. He was up against two dynasties in the spurs and the warriors.
Um he had to carry d wade, kyrie Irving, and Anthony Davis to a finals appearance? No sir you are wrong
@@veganpenguin9857 Yes, Dwade was washed by 2014, absolutely
If you think about it Lebron lost 3 finals in Cleveland, so I think its just a Cavs curse. w/o those losses it would be like 4/7 which is not bad
@@winsortse
He lost 4 finals in Cleveland, 2007, 2015, 2017 and 2018.
None of which were his fault, he had absolutely no chance of winning and was amazing in all of them.
To speak as unbiased as possible, the only finals loss that can TRULY be held against Lebron’s legacy is 2011. That was the only series where he didn’t play his ass off and he wasn’t the best player on his team (even though he had the ability to be). Every other finals, win or lose, he was either the best on the court or at the very least the best on his team. There’s always levels to this shit that most people leave out.
His 2011 finals loss is the only reason his bumass team didnt win. Imagine getting outplayed by JJ fuckin Barea bro. Wade has to get a million back massages after that series to keep carrying Lebum
@@michaelspetsquirrel5372 he literally just said that 2011 could only be held against him 🤨. You took that and ran, and for what?
@@markgilbertjr413 lebron also choked 2007 2014 2015 finals
@@juwantaylor5293 What’s your definition of choking?
@@markgilbertjr413 lebron choked 2007 and 2014 finals also
Greatest Player Of All Time 🤷🏽♂️
Bro forgot MJ exists
3-6-1 🤡🤡
@@Ohno-rr7pe Your just bias if you still believe mj is the goat
Mj the goat 🐐 no debate needed
@@DamianLillardno1glazer LeBron is the King
MJ is the Goat
Kobe is the Black Mamba
Then went on to go to 8 straight finals the goat in my eyes
Very true
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def. arguments for him or jordan make sense to me. but bron is just a juggernaut. best overall player of all time for sure
I agree jordan always had great players as teammates and he didn’t face gsw2017/18
What was his record in the finals at that point?
I remember this team, LeBron and Bunch of Other Dudes or some variation of it. I couldn’t believe the Pistons lost it was amazing to watch
Then lebron choked in 2007 finals
@@juwantaylor5293 yeah cause you know 2007 Spurs were pushovers right? . . . .
They barely face great team in the east anyway
@@juwantaylor5293 outscored the spurs in the 46 minutes he played in games 3-4 😂 you’re a 🤡
@@juwantaylor5293You mean against Prime Duncan with Manu and Parker and coach Pop
The definition of “fine I will do it myself”
And the porch scene is him winning the title.
Lebron choked in 07 finals
@@juwantaylor5293 while you ,here you are in the.comment section, a NoBODY
@@juwantaylor5293go away your weird
@@juwantaylor5293 against one of the greatest dynasties in NBA History
People really underestimate LeBron's accomplishments. People say he's only 4/10 in the finals. But the way he got most of these finals is nothing short from spectacular. Don't trash the king
Ten fucking times while carrying is insanity.
@@teh_blazerer shit is bonkers dawg.
Especially one of those Ws was against the 73 win warriors after being down 3-1. I hardly ever hear anyone give credit for that win. The best playoff win in nba history
Lebron trash 🗑 he choked in 07 finals and miss the playoffs this year with lakers
@@teh_blazerer lebron disappeared and choked in the finals
Imagine if LeBron was drafted by a team with good management
Imagine he had what Michael had with the bulls!
Would have swept every time
@@Lu_Williams good teammates
@@Lu_Williams lebron CHOKED Cleveland and he had help no excuses
@@Celuta96 lebron choked failed CLEVELAND
Them first 5/6 years of Lebron career was so much fun to watch.
He CHOKED n FAILED CLEVELAND that wasn't fun 😂
Rd 1: Arenas, Jamison, Butler
Rd 2: Kidd, Carter, Jefferson
ECF: Billups, Hamilton, Rasheed
Finals: Duncan, Parker, Ginobili
Nobody could do what Lebron did that year with that Cavs lineup. Literally "hero ball" because he was superman, batman and robin all at the same time
Arenas was injured and didn’t play both the nets and wizards won 41-41 games so stop acting like they were Elite pistons had won 3 more games than the cavs and no longer had Ben Wallace so the paint was wide open meaning they couldn’t stop the thing bron was best at which is driving to the rim( not to mention boobie Gibson had to save bron in the close out game by dropping 30 when bron shrank) well the Spurs could stop him and forced him to shoot jumpers. Let’s see how that went 22,7,7 5.8tov 1.5stl 0.5blk on 36%fg 23% 3pt
@@JC-po5zy Jordan played in the weakest era
@@radixonix839 lying >>
@@radixonix839 Jordan played in the golden era of basketball when it was fair cuz defense was apart of the games lol
How many championships the first three lines got without being with Lebron???? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm just one?????
This is why LeBron is the GOAT, people argue Jordan’s rings but everyone knows he couldn’t do it without Pippen. LeBron came into the league with heavy pressure to be the best. His early years with the Cavs were not his fault, he gave it his all every year and no one helped. To be a young 22 year old star carrying an entire franchise in the best league, while millions watched is truly incredible. Yes, he lost, but can u blame him? Maybe having the greatest coach of all time, Phil Jackson and a couple Hall of Famer sidekicks could’ve helped. People also bring up his finals record 4-6, but again, who got them there?
exactly why blame lebron? he did everything and yet people still hate him because people cant accept that a boy from Akron Ohio is better then their idol Michael Jordan and lebron is the GOAT the king and lebron will always be the greatest in my eyes
@@drozylol1748 u better ur eyes checked then lmfao
You're forgetting he played half of his career in a historically bad Eastern conference. Once he faced good teams, he'd get beaten easily. Then he colluded and played with multiple top 5-10 guys to ring chase.
the fact that he stayed with the cavs for 7 or 8 yrs(if im not mistaken) and carry just shows that he tried and gave a chance to cavs FO to find him help and build around him.. but nothing came.. then ppl proceed to hating him for going to miami.. smh
Jordan will forever be better than Lebum cos he had to crawl his way out of the OP eastern conference. Thats why he was almost always a first round exit, because he faced larry fuckin bird, and a hall of fame squad with the damn cocaine circus. It was either that or the Bad Boy Pistons who hacked and slammed MJ to the damn floor. Lebron had weak competition. Thats why he got whooped in the ‘07 finals, cos thats the first time he faced true competition. Name me all the competitors for the championship in 2007. Just know, that most of them were in the WEST. Night night clowns
Lebron had to carry every team every year for almost a decade, and yet people were upset when he joined a super team. Dude deserved a breather.
I'm not lebron hater dawg but just agree he can't win without super stars like ad Bosh dwade kyrie lol just speaking facts
@@gerryambino8498 Same could be said for Kobe, MJ, and KD
@@gerryambino8498And Duncan couldn't win without stars like Ginobli Parker Robinson and Kawhai. Kobe couldn't win wothout Shaq or Pau. MJ 1-9 before scottie.
Im not even a LeBron fan like that and I know still what this guy was able do so young with no male guidance is a crazy story tbh I grew up without my Dad there most my life to be able to keep urself in line is hardest part coming up as young man hats off to you man you did dam thing and became number 1 in scoring crazy
Shutup man
@@nonamewillbegiven1217if I ask you now, why are telling him to shut up?? I am curious to know the dumb reason you will give me
@@yudajd9665 g.l. Bron minion
I doubt there's no one in this league right now that like him in his 22 year old era, I can't find anyone FR
Luka and Trae young better than 22 yr old LeBron
@@KingTaylor-pl2el good joke
Bro leave him 😂😂😂. Sometimes these guys hates so much that they forget to talk basketball wise @@DeuceWalker-hv6gu
@@yudajd9665 so how that first round L treating you stan?
The longevity of this guy is insane. He's veen doing this out of highschool into his forties.
Bron trash 🗑️ he failed both Cleveland and LA
Even though he lost , it’s crazy he took that team all the way 💯🐐
Not GOAT
Lebron overrated he's not top ten all time
@@KingTaylor-pl2elis d riding all you do?
I saw many people saying he also had all stars when getting to the finals, when every team James team face in the finals (except for the Mavs) have 2 or three all stars. He also had to do extra work especially when most of "all stars" he teamed mostly have injuries.
I always enjoyed those Lebron - Arenas playoff duels for those couple of years
Was injured didn’t play
I will never understand how making 10 finals is used as an argument against him. Don't get me wrong, the two Heat Finals losses (esp. the Mavs) you can put a fair amount of that on Bron, but the losses against the Warriors, and that 07' run you can't see those as arguments against him. Without him those teams don't make the finals, and in the case of the 07' and '18 teams they probably don't make the playoffs at all.
He has been the reason for a team's final loss once, maybe twice depending on how you rate his performance against the Spurs. But the other 4 finals losses aren't failures for him, especially when you think about how many all time great players couldn't do for their teams, what became commonplace for him. We really take for granted how hard it is to make the NBA finals, and how crazy it is that he did it with that level of regularity.
2014 finals is not on Lebron whatsoever
Lebron disappeared and choked in 2007 and 2018 finals fasho 💯💯💯💯💯
@@johncena4096 2014 is lebron fault fasho💯💯💯💯💯
@@juwantaylor5293 34/8/10 is choking? He arguably carried the 2018 team through the playoffs harder than he carried 2007, and 07 is like the textbook example of having no help on a team.
In both those finals the same thing happened, Lebron couldn't single-handedly beat a top 10 roster of all time by himself (07 Spurs and 18 Warriors.) And again I ask, how is that an argument against him? At least Michael had Scottie for all his runs like damn you're gonna ask him to win a finals with Mo Williams or JR Smith as his second scorer? Cmon bro
@@johncena4096 I wouldn't blame him for that finals, but I can see the argument that if he's the goat he would've made it happen. Granted that's the highest bar you can possibly judge him by, but I can respect that point. Its not like the Mavs final where he was actively mediocre and unclutch
nah 22 year old bron was hooping his ass off💀💀💀💀💀💀💀good lord
This reminds me of dwight Howard's title run
The King has been battling Dynasties after Dynasties lol he really is the 👑
Lebron the biggest choker in nba history 💯💯💯 he choked vs them teams
@@juwantaylor5293 And youre his biggest fan judging by how much time you spent on this video lol
Nope
That piston team was crazzyyyy
44 mins is insane lol
game 5 against detroit is one of his all time performances. DYNASTY KILLER
But he choked in 07 finals 🤦🤦🤦
Dude how much subs do u have excactly
@@KingTaylor-pl2eldo you really expect LeBron to beat the overpowered spurs? You bron haters are weird
Y he da 🐐. Carry teams like no other.
Lebron trash 🗑️ he choked 07 finals
That team had no business beating the Pistons, Lebron is just otherworldly
The Pistons weren't great you m0r0n
Those were talented players on his team
Cracks me up because so many people who don’t know basketball will tell you Mo Williams was on this team lmao
Fr
If he had just one or two stars with him… this would be a different story
no If had just someone who could score or do very good defense.That series would have been very close
I said this before if lebron had drafted by spurs or be with phil jackson and prime shaq 9-11 rings easy
they nearly signed ray Allen that off-season
Or better role players
And people critize him for "the decision". The Cav's management was riding off his coattails. People were burning his jerseys and flaming him calling him le choke. He's not even in his prime yet, bought the team to Finals. Chill out.
07 cavs without Bron is a g-league lottery team.
im so guilty of unfairly using lebron getting swept in the finals in middle school-HS 2008-2012 i was a diehard kobe fan and was honestly just young and hated hearing that lebron was better when kobe was already established and lebron was just beginning to shape his legacy. kobes still my fave all time.
Yea kobe my favorite all time but bron is a animal on the court
What a baller. i hope he can drag La to the finals again
@@iam17anddangerous34 Last season was so bad for the Lakers they need to trade Westbrook
@@finnoone12 and it’s crazy how that was his best season too lol.
@@7mileTen who Bron or Westbrook
@@finnoone12 bron year 19
@@finnoone12 still up to date on the lakers? 😂
A final appearance is a feat itself.
It’s funny how the 2012 thunder get the “young excuse “ but the 07 Cavs got swept 😂😂😂
What great memories.
These videos are so good and high quality! Keep up the good work!
This roster may not have been great, but they were far better than y'all give them credit for. They were one of the best defensive teams in basketball along with having a respectable offense. All this team needed was that superstar #2 type player similar to what he got in Wade, Irving, and now AD later in his career.
Facts
What's their record without lebron?
@@cuthbertcoritico6754 Pretty bad by design since the roster is entirely built around him and his skillset rather than a teak system that utilizes everyone while having him as the centerpiece. It's wild how you all will celebrate him for that but then don't understand why his teams have difficulty functioning without him.
@@cuthbertcoritico6754👍
@@davidmartinez52420
stop quoting FALSE narratives
lebron getting that team to the finals is one of the most impressive things in ALL SPORTS HISTORY. it's insane he was able to do that. the team was bad. very very bad and he SINGLE HANDEDLY GOT THEM TO THE FINALS! insane. arguably more impressive than the 3-1 comeback, and that was some historic stuff.
No it's not you delusional groupie
Love your videos
I still to this day cannot imagine how LeBron has accomplished these many things.He is such out of this world a true G.O.A.T.
FACTS!!
Make that make sense man, you do know the NBA existed before 2004 yeah?
@@bobbyd1632 That's the thing man most of us really started loving NBA just because of Bron.
@@sanathdeshpande.7759 there’s a lot of people who stopped watching bc of Bron
And even if you’re right (you’re not, “most” people no, I’m sure “some” people yes) that doesn’t prove Brons the goat
How is Bron the goat to you?
@@ReoLeo-ov7xh Kobe better than lebron
Wait he was 22???? They should honestly go back and give conference finals mvps. I just realzied how being the youngest player to win a confrence finals mvp would affect his legacy (and his 9 others he would have lol)
this channel tuff af
I Love your work so much ♥️♥️♥️♥️🏀🏀🏀🏀🏆🏆🥇🥇🏅🏅🎖️🎖️
Lebron solo squadded entire franchises all time best players 😂😂
So obvious he’s the best player ever
In June of 2007, a 22 year old led his team to the NBA finals in historic fashion! The next month, July of 07, the term “Big 3" was created, by bringing Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and KG together!🤣 LeBoogie Man Bron!👑
Thats very unrelated
@@nonamewillbegiven2412 Lmao u a fan of Lebron so much you commented at least 20 times on his videos
@@Soldier979 yawn
While spurs were already great and kobe bieng kobe with shaq. The piston and the wizards and young okc young d wade young rose young rondo young nash and more . Lastly prime D Howard . Single handeldy carry majic to finals. Prime dirk. Injured ming and tracy megredy will still make u suffer
DID HE CALL THE NETS A BIG 3 ??!! LOL 😂😂😂😂
That team was kicking and screaming the whole way
Lebron is blameless in 2007, 2014, 2015, 2017 and 2018 finals losses.
He played phenomenally and lost.
Jordan is losing all 5 AND 2016 if he was in Lebron's shoes.
fax
In all honesty jordan not even making it to the finals in those situations
On the other hand, Jordan would go 4 out of 4 with that Heat squad from 2010-2014. That team was stronger than any squad that Jordan had with The Bulls.
The MJ Stans: LeBron doesn't have the 🔥"KILLER INSTICT"🔥. MJ would've found a way to win those Finals despite being smaller, less efficient, and being a worse playmaker than LeBron.
@@peramitic4247
Nope, Wade and Bosh were 100% washed in 2014, he is not beating the Spurs with Kawhi.
Not happening.
The performance of Lebron and the Cavs in the 2007 & 2018 NBA Finals were the most impressive in NBA history. 😆😆😆
Yeah and the fact that Lebron dragged his poor Cavs team to the finals and facing 2 of the greatest dynasties in NBA History
No it wasnt emoji boy
what are you talkng about? he avg 22 points, less than the 24.5 pts tony parker put up, and 23 turnovers in this series. his inefficient shooting is why the cavs lost the series. they lost games by thin margins and were the #1 defense in the NBA. this cultlike mental gymnastics is crazy.
@@_M.... yeah and then tim duncan admit himself 2007 all their eyes is on lebron thats how great he is, because hes the problem teammates of bron is just addons,
@@_M.... you solidified the point where if james score 5ppg less in a series, no one would step up for him, he literally had a 13ppg teammate as the next top scorer for cleveland
The best videos everrrrrrrrrrrr
The fact that this isn’t a marvel movie yet is crazy 😂
I seriously just re watched this series over the past 2 days and my god. I love my Cavs but that Spurs team was like a top 5 team all time.
That spurs team isn't top 5 all time
Prime 80s Celttics, Prime Showtime Lakers, Prime Bulls, Prime Shaq-Kobe, Prime GSW. These 5 alone are already better. 2014 Spurs were also great, 2013 Miami and so on.
He may not be the goat for me but he's one of the greatest no doubt.
Fair enough, others like Jordan and Kareem have insane cases too.
Lebron not top 20 all time
@@LeafyPeach lebron not top 20 all time
@@juwantaylor5293
You sound ridiculous. Every legend has him at least in the top 10. You can't name 20 guys better than lebron.
His best season
How the hell did this man beat vince, j kidd and jefferson 😭 God damnn and he was 22 years old
Man, imagine if he has help he would’ve been the Youngest finals MVP! The previous series literally took a toll on his body, the wear and tear. Playing 43-46 minutes per game in playoffs was insane, played 78 regular season games.
@@KoreanBoy9713
Lebron's career is a GREAT LEGACY
(no boost needed)
LeBron CHOKED 2007 finals and he had help no excuses
@@KingTaylor-pl2el prick head he said if he had help he would get ring before .... Jordan wins his ring at the age of 28 the best teamate eaver. So jordan choke before he wins all that tite.
@@KingTaylor-pl2el I guess this video needed to be translated to retard for u lmao
This is the reason why I think he is the best player I've ever seen. All of ya'll that hate hard on LeBron always just gloss over this. Who is the other players that reached the finals with no other all-star??? I'll wait...for you to change the subject.
Hakeem and he won playing harder competition bron played 2 41-41 win teams this playoffs and the wizards didn’t even have Gil cuz injury. The pistons had won 3 more games so ppl actin like the cavs were underdogs is far from true Larry Hughes before joining bron averaged 22ppg and led the league in steals before becoming a “scrub” as bron fans say and big z was a 2x all star 🤣🤣🤣 when mj had a 2x all star he won the chip
Dirk 2011.. Duncan 2003..
@@JC-po5zy so he's the second to do it? Thats amazing, and speaks volumes on how good Hakeem and Lebron played.
Pretty sure the 2011 Mavs only had 1x all star (and they had a much harder conference and actually won!!
Bulls in 91 only had 1x all star and again they won!!
94 Rockets had 1 all star and won!
I think 2003 Spurs too
I won’t include the 2016 Cavs or 1998 Bulls bc the only reason they had 1 all star was due to injuries
The 2007 Cavs were underrated
This was my favorite version of Bron stupid athletic and all natural till
I'm a huge Giannis fan, can you do a video about giannis. Either times he humiliated his opponents or how good is he actually vid.
That team did heavily rely on Lebron offensively as they were slightly above average, but far from Championship Caliber. However DEFENSIVELY Coach Brown had them boys 🔒 🆙
He went to finals even though half of his teammates was jealous of him .
the cavs to lebron: "I am once again asking for your basketball support"
The East was absolutely horrible that year. Once he faced a real good team in the Finals, LeBron promptly got swept.
And Cleveland really gave this man Judas treatment when he left in 2010…
Man you're clueless
LeBron's God Level stamina is just on a different level
Lebron garbage 🗑
People dont realize how good the Nets was at that time too...
41-41
Damn bro Bron was plus 40 plus mins. I never knew that. I always wonder why was this young super athlete was got cramps. And there’s my answer. Over 45 mins in the playoffs? For 3 plus series? Wow
Yawn
Damn if he was drafted by a competent franchise he would have at least 6 rings by now.
10 rings
Agree
Amd with good teammates
@@01angadsingh lebron 🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️ trash af he FAILED both Cleveland and LA
Bron trash af 🗑️💯 he failed CLEVELAND
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I’m 22 and I don’t even have my drivers license yet 😂😂
ALRIGHT... now I see lots of haters going like, "Oh oh, it's not a real carry job. He didn't have them win!!!" well, why are we expecting a 22-year-old Lebron who is still developing with a nobody team, to beat prime time Duncan, many Ginobili, and tony parker.
M0r0n
The best finals run of a team who only had one good player in the history of the league.
Lol Hakeem did it and won in 94 and big z was a 2x all star and Larry Hughes averaged 22ppg and led the league in steals all in the same year before joining bron and miraculously becoming what “a bum/scrub” 🤷🏿♂️🤣
@@JC-po5zy Wow, you really don't know the differences in rosters. Hakeem was great, but the Rockets also had Kenny Smith, Otis Thorpe, Robert Horry, Sam Cassel, Mario Ellie, and Vernon Maxwell (in their primes). Larry Hughes did NOTHING that year. What does the year prior have to do with THAT year?
@@lookfeelbehealthy6320 cuz ppl tell me Bron makes his teammates better soooo 🤣🤷🏿♂️y did Hughes not become better and all those players u named are roleplayers non were all stars bron had an all star teammate in big z lol
that would be the 98' Chicago Bulls.
@@_M.... Did you forget about Pippen?
How about a 20 year old magic winning the title and getting the finals MVP. Won the college national title the year before. Won the state high school championship two years before that. Amazing.
Not a lebron fan, but TEN finals? How many has your stars made? He just does it. He did it with and without all stars.
To the LeBron haters who keep bringing up his 4-6 finals record, let's analyze it for a bit...
2007: Basically a young LeBron vs. prime Duncan, Parker & Ginobili
2011: Okay, we can give him criticism for that.
2012: Beat a team featuring KD, Russ & Harden; 3 future MVP's and Hall of Famers.
2013: Beat the mighty Spurs Dynasty. Yes, he got saved by Ray Allen, but let's not take away the greatness he showed in the finals (i.e. Paxson & Kerr).
2014: Again, vs. the Spurs Dynasty + a young Kahwi Leonard.
2015: Basically just LeBron vs. Steph, Klay, Draymond & Iggy.
2016: Beat the 72-9 Warriors. Greatest comeback in NBA Finals history.
2017: vs. the Warriors Dynasty + KD (?) At this point it's just not fair for the rest of the league.
2018: Same story, only this time, without Kyrie.
2020: Beat the Heat in 6 (idc if it's in the bubble, had they played in home arenas, Lakers would've still beaten Miami)
Yeah just brush off the biggest finals meltdown of any superstar in history. Gettin outplayed by JJ fkn Barea lmfaoo. Also 2020 was some bullcrap bubble ring and it was basically Butler vs the whole lakeshow
@@michaelspetsquirrel5372 not brushing off his 2011 Finals performance... like i said, we can give him criticism for that. He played bad (for a superstar), and there's no two ways around it.
Also, yes... 2020 was basically Jimmy vs. LeBron & AD, but let's not forget that LeBron got into that same situation THRICE!!! 2007, 2015 & 2018... yet we don't invalidate those Spurs' and Warriors' rings. Just saying 😶
@@charlespatulin2802 Fr bro 😂 if lebron losses without help, they dont invalidate the opponent's ring but criticize Lebron instead, but if Lebron is on the other side, they invalidate his ring not criticize his opponent😂 so much hate
@@michaelspetsquirrel5372 you can say that as well at 2007, 2015 and 2018 lol
Lebron choked in 2007 finals and got destroyed by kd in back to back finals no excuses
That was so close. LeBron's first Finals appearance came just one year before I start following the NBA.
My Goat 🐐
The stats mentioned in the videos are insane
Lebron would have 10 rings by now if he just had competent teammates 😭
Lebron lost 2 finals on a superteam miami team and miss playoffs this year on lakers superteam. Lebron himself choked this 2007 finals
@@juwantaylor5293 🤡
To be fair, the East was EXTREMELY weak in that 2007 finals run, but even so, it’s still impressive
Cavs without Bron only win 20 games and contend for a 1st pick. That finals carry wasn’t easy
Didn’t the Pistons just win the championship
@@TreyDoe pistons only won cos kobe and shaq were feuding. If it wasnt for that lakers woulda gentleman swept them. In an interview, kobe and shaq themselves said this:
Shaq: Ben Wallace guarding me?
Kobe: That’s ridiculous
@@kellz1703 shit team in a shit conference wow what a surprise. Name me all the great teams and contenders of the 2000’s. You know what ill do it for u:
Spurs
Lakers
Mavs
Nuggets
Suns
What do these teams have in common? THEY ALL IN THE WEST
@@michaelspetsquirrel5372 so what? The East wasn’t weak as ppl say.. that’s a myth
1994 Rockets, 2001 76ers, 2007 Cavs, 2018 Cavs 4 of the greatest carry jobs in NBA history.
No. M0r0n
And now he’s at 40,000+ points smh 🐐
And yet people are using this Finals run to discredit his greatness, LMAOOO. That 2007 Cavs team would be a lottery team if not for LeBron James.
Lebron choked in 2007 finals. His teammate showed up in finals
@@juwantaylor5293 he was only 22 years old at that time in his FIRST NBA Finals against an all-time great team and still led his team in scoring, so stfu.
No one averaged more then 16 points yea stepped up
And people keep talking about his 4-10 record in the finals. This is one of those trips and most of his loses are because of the warriors dynasty. He was not lucky unlike Mike he always needed to carry his team (except the Heat Team) and always lose in the finals. If he was not drafted by the Cavs he might be the goat right now.
I hate talking about it. MJ wouldn't survive playing against 2017-2018 Warriors nor the Spurs all in their primes,i'd say he could've won the 2014 ring and the 2015 one as well but i'd say his actual record if he had actual good enough cast is like a 4-7 record,like bro imagine going against 2 dynasties all in their primes? just isnt relalistic enough.
@@Foxy-rs3gp True
@@Foxy-rs3gp No way! Jordan in his prime would average 50 in today's game. No hand checking? 3 second defensive rule? That's BBQ chicken right there. Defense is a joke now, DPOY now pretty much means that you just played solid defense for a whole season. People don't realize that yes, Jordan was one of the best offensively, but he also was consistently one of the best defensive players in the league too for years and years. That's what made him so lethal. LeBron was always a good defender, but he was only a great defender for 3 or 4 years of his 20 seasons.
@@cole9777 50 is a bit too much. id say maximum 38ish but yeah Lebron could've won defensive player of the year instead of Marc Gasol but it is what it is,Jordan was a very good defender and is a great two way player but i just don't see him beating some other teams in the finals and that includes the warriors and spurs dynasty,Jordan would indeed put up a fight but would lose either way.if he had a good supporting cast then i'd say he could win some.
@@Foxy-rs3gp Jordan averaged 37 in the '86-'87 season, he'd average 50 in today's league.
Remember when SNL dissed the CAVS on their way to the 2018 NBA Finals.
And y’all say he ring chased, no he had to leave and save his legacy. If the Cavs couldn’t do anything for him through 7 years, he was wasting his time. He left to get a ring or two, then came back and won one with the Cavs. He played his cards perfectly imo.
Then you're an 1diot
He lost this one essentially because he was a kid with no help. Take away the Miami years and he lost 2015 because after the Love and Irving injuries it was essentially 2007 all over again with Delly as his 2nd best player. He then beats a 73-9 team after coming back from 3-1 down. That 73-9 team then adds one of the best players in the league just to beat Bron. He then drags an Irvingless team back in 2018 that had no place being there.
For all the Jordan 6-6 talk he didn't drag a team to the finals at age 22 and he never faced a team at a dynasty level.
Weak east
Lebron choked and failed Cleveland. Mj better than lebron 💯
Lebron garbage 🗑 he choked 07 and 2011 finals. He failed Cleveland and quit on them twice
The 86 Celtics says hello. I.diot
Y'all mj d riders make excuses every time lebron does something impressive
Jordan could never take that Cleveland to finals at the age of 22 like Lebron did with bunch of nobody’s😂😂
Mj can do that and mj would've won 07 finals to
@@juwantaylor5293 Then why are u on a Lebron video instead of a MJ video. U low key a fan lmao
@@Soldier979 mj is better than lebron 💯. I'm watching how lebron got destroyed in 2007 finals 😆 🤣
@@juwantaylor5293 You low key a fan lmao thats why you on his videos every day
@@Soldier979 Ima curry fan
W video like all ways
I cant name a single person on that thumbnail except lebron that says alot