NIKE ALPHAFLY+ VAPORFLY AFTER 1 YEAR OF USE (500 MILES/ 800KM)
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In todays video i share my experience with using the Nike Vaporfly next% and Nike Alphafly next% over the last year. I go over my races, the uses in my training/shoe rotation as well as which running shoe I would pick if i could only use one. I've now ran over 500miles in both shoes. If you enjoy this video, please leave a like and consider subscribing to the channel.
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I’d say those held up very well
Just watched a video about a guy who’d ran 2000km in his! They’ve got plenty of life left :)
Love this video! So many reviews say these shoes wear out after 150 miles. Great to know that they can last MUCH longer and still give something back. Thanks for this!!
Thankyou go watching Brian! Yeah these shoes have done me well! Probably around 200 KM left in them before they’re fit for the bin!
I think the issue is that those complaining people walk like limp donkeys who's dragging it's feet, utterly destroying the undersole.
How about if one use it Like a training shoe for running on tredmill only. So how much it will last if use them for running on tredmill ?
@@gauravnagpal3281my Vaporfly don't have enough under the ball of my feet so I've switched them to treadmill only after about 150km of races and park runs. Reckon they'll last forever 😎
Sup Ben!
Hands down you're one of my favorite Running CZcamsrs. Your transparency and easy training breakdowns and gear reviews are impeccable! Keep up the great work!
Appreciate that Stephen. Thank you
Awesome video Ben! Great to hear that these shoes have held up for you for so long and worked out so well! Cheers from Canada, Scott :)
Your videos are awesome mate, keep them going!
Love comparison videos. Helps to choose shoes. I recently started a shoe rotation and it has brought some fun to training.
Everyone needs more shoes right! It certainly keeps you motivated
Listen Ben I’m not saying it enough - I enjoy tracking your progress and watching your videos so much! GREAT JOB YOU’RE AWESOME 👏🏻
So gay...
I’ve trained for my marathon in the Vaporfly Next % this year and stayed healthy the whole season and loved them! Great shoes.
Thank you for making this longevity video on both shoes. There is endless 100mile reviews on both but you just provided information I was looking for, how well has the shoe done over hundreds of miles and over a long timeframe with training and racing.
Great review! I’m running since august and this Sunday I have my first 5k race. Now I have only one pair of running shoes but already planing to have at least two more (Hoka Mach 4 and hoka Clifton 8 or bondi 7). really enjoy your content and I’m sure you have a bright future ahead!
Best of luck!! Hoka is probably my favourite brand of shoe for training. The Mach 4 is my favourite shoe of the year and I ran over 1000km in the bondi 6 so I’m sure they’ll be great additions to your rotation. If your looking for a speed shoe though look no further than these
Really impressed to see over 1700km in the Infinity Run! I push mine over 1500km but after that I started to have some hip and knee pain. Immediately gone after I retired the shoe.
Awesome video Ben, much appreciation from East Africa ,Tanzania
What is your size Ben?
Thank you Inyas, I’m size 8 uk
Good to see that you've got so many miles out of the Next% shoes. When I bought mine I was told they would last 100 miles, tops, so I've kept them for AAA races only. I think I might run in them a bit more now!
Keep the fire burning. Success awaits
🔥👊🏻
I just got myself og pair of alpha and I cannot wait to those long runs in them!
Amazing video mate 👏 it’s phenomenal too see how they’ve held up over 500 miles… quality stuff!
Thankyou mate! Nice chatting today, looking forward to next tuesdays session! 😀
Spot on analysis 👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks Paul
very helpful thank you for honest review.
Great videos and may catch you at the Billericay 10K keep up the good work
Love to hear your thoughts on the race.
Another great vid Ben👍 Such a shame that I didn’t get on my my next% and still struggling with hamstring issues😫
Thankyou! Oh yeah I remember you had a problem with them wearing out pretty fast? Mine have done me well! Maybe you should give them another try? Hope you’re recovering! 😊
Great info thanks Ben👍
Thanks Andy
Interesting I have the same use case for these shoes. Alphafly is very good long run shoe, Vaporfly for intervals or threshold runs. To me these shoes are tools I dont care about the price as long as they make me enjoy running. I know lots of ppl save them for racing only and at the same time they have like ten pair of "cheaper" daily trainers for no reason. The cheapest shoe I usually use is the Novablast for recovery runs, as it has similar soft cushioning as the Alphas.
Great review mate!
Thanks Gustavo 👊🏻
Ben, I just signed up for my first 10k race at the end of the month!! Thanks for the motivation. I’ll be plodding along, doing the Ranelagh Harriers Richmond 10k… 28th November… apparently flat and ideal for a PB if you fancy it!
Hi jack! Good luck with the race and hope the next few weeks of training goes well. I’m racing a 10k on the 21st nov so plan to have a few weeks easy after that. Sounds like a good one to do though 👊🏻
Hey Ben, great content! Really inspiring me to focus more on running and enjoy it. I would be interested to see a video on your strength work you do in the gym, an area I don’t think I’m focused enough.
Hey Charles, I’ve featured a little bit of my gym routine in a recent video but yes, I’ll try to do a video on the topic :)
@@BenIsRunning Awesome thanks Ben.
Awesome vid, I’ve recently got a pair of the tempo next% and they feel great so far for what I’ve done 👍🏼
I’ve not tried that shoe, should really pick a pair up but with having the alphafly I’ve not bothered yet
@@BenIsRunning yeah I don’t have the alphafly but I imagine you wouldn’t need it if you had the alphas, I’m not doing races at the moment though so figured the tempos would be perfect for tempo+ above training
I've watched 10-15 videos on durability of Nikes's super shoes and this is the the most informative. I also train in the shoes as well but only faster runs. I'm 55 and run around 35 mins for 10k so slower than you but also weigh 72 kilos ( love excuses - if I weighed 50 kilos...). My shoes look like your shoes at 150k but I can get 800k out of them with a lot of shoe glue and other loving care.
I just bought the Nike Tempo Next% Vaporfly which is also a carbon plated shoe. I do not race at the moment and so I mainly use it for tempo and threshold training. The shoe brings me a lot of stability and I feel like it also helps with my running form. For easy runs I have the Invincible Run. I am very happy with that combo right now.
The tempo next% has a nylon composite plate I believe so it’s slightly less stiff that the one found in the vaporfly. But yes, your right to save that for the faster stuff and the invincible is a great fun shoe for them easy runs. Hope your training is going well Samuel
I was considering getting a pair of alpha fly for Christmas and this video has confirmed that I will!
Yeah they are such a great shoe! If you use the link in the description I get commission from Nike 👊🏻
Nice thanks!
Now's the time to buy. With discounts Nike are currently selling the Mango colourway Alphafly for £155 in their Black Friday sale.
@@harveydean7952 wow!!!
Loving your vids. Those 2 pairs of shoes and most carbon plated shoes tend to work best sub 7:30 min mile so pure race shoe for me (soon) keep up the channel 👍👍👍
Agree Gary! I tried doing a warm up in my vaporfly and it just feels wrong jogging in them
Really interesting video! I personally normally stay clear of training in my carbon plated shoe (endorphin pro) but I have no reason to do so other than I’m not too clued up on the science behind it all and don’t want to risk injury and manipulating my gait on a higher % of my runs. That said I’ve never had any issues with them and may start using them a bit more to get that money’s worth!
I too got the left foot pain with the Alphaflys. My heart sank when I got the pain within minutes of first use. After reading around reddit, I took out the insole (it was glued in and a hassle) and replaced it with Endorphin pro insole (basically one with the thickest arch support). It has made it loads better so I'm looking forward to finally using it for a half marathon in 2 weeks. Good to know you do get somewhat used to it.
I'm sure mine are stitched in
Best channel Iv found. Implementing some of your training to improve my 5k pb. Currently 15:32. Want to get as close to 15mins as possible 🤞
That’s my aim too! Sub 15 together would be cool, where abouts are you based?
@@BenIsRunning London and Cornwall. That would be pretty cool, I’m sure you’ll achieve that! I’m getting on in years now, but will keep trying
@@martinberry9616 let me know if you ever fancy an Essex race, be great to have a someone aiming for a similar time
@@BenIsRunning il keep that in mind! Appreciate it! 👍
Interesting video! What else do you train in, besides these two? I agree with the point that all athletes want to use the best gear available, so the "VF/AF only for races opinion" is a bit silly. I currently only have a VF2 and a NB Fuelcell TC for my training. So these are 2 carbon-plated shoes. But wondering if a third shoe (like a Pegasus) might be helpful.
As a slower, heavier runner I was planning to pickup a pair of Alphafly for my sub 4hr marathon attempt in May 2022. And still use it for my regular race distance, the half marathon. Glad to see the shoe can have it's usable life extended. Much like the often maligned Hoka Mach4, I will have over 400KM in the Mach4 and it's still going strong.
>slower runner
>sub 4 marathon
pick one 😝
Hi Ben ...great video to compare thoose 2 shoes after 1 year of running and 800kms lol awesome 🤪...i really do prefer my AFs v1 over the VP2s...i feel more bounce and energy return in the AFs than in th VFs ...and legs saving just fantastic in th AFs ...i ve the Rawdacouis version bought at last Black Friday for 180€ and that last purple colorway (woman version lol) on Nike webside actually for 149€ lol ...i like my adios pro2s in which i did Paris22 but the AFs are a way more bouncy and let me keep my MA pace easally...c u from France and thx to speak in kilometers its rare for an english shoe reviuwer lol ...its really appriciate 👏👏👏👍😉🇫🇷
I got around 500k on my vaporflys but i also used a lot of tape to protect the exposed zoomx foam in the heel area.
Maybe not the most fancy looking but the 700k definitely possible with that method
Tape? Like duct tape? Didn't it start to stick in the ground after a while?
I presently use both vaporfly and alphafly. To increase life of shoes, I always clean them after each run and very importantly check and remove any stones. Will really prolong life of shoes!
Great video Rob!!
I do all my hard Training Sessions in the Tempo Next%. They are heavier, but they work for me in faster Sessions! I use the heavier Shoes on purpose to get a bigger Effect of the light Next% in Races. And it worked out… everytime i use the Vaporfly it felt sooo light!
Worked out to be a great Strategy! Racing felt really „Easy“ and got rewarded with huge PBs Half 1:14:58 and a Full in 2:37:17.
God! you’re flying.
big fan of training in the shoes i am racing with.
great video about the shoes. i recently purchased tempo next% which i absolutely love. when do you recommend changing shoes? un sure they say anywhere between 250 - 500 miles. also i go the Turmeric Zooki. i had the first one today. i cant wait to see the affects in the next few weeks
I think 500miles should really be the limit to prevent/ reduce the chances of injury but I just use them until they fall apart! Let me know how you get on!
@@BenIsRunning so far i have run about 50 miles in the shoes and they have made me so much quicker. its strange but the energy they give back are insane
I´ve just the other day sacked my 4th pair of Nike zoom fly flyknit. Each pair went through 800-900 km of running. Best shoe I ever had. I used them for EVERY training session. Now they are impossible to get hold on, so moving on with Pegasus 39 and then soon a pair of Vaporfly.
Nice video
Thanks monu
I also use them in training. I have had several pairs of the Vaporflys but only one Alpha. I like the VF version 2 a lot better than version 1 as I really dislike the upper on the 1. I've only raced a short race in the Alphas (Hilly 4k) and they were not so great because heavy when going uphill (at least heavier than the VFs.) I've raced 10ks in the VFs but never a half or full.
I ran one 5k in my Vaporfly’s and the heel split on them which I couldn’t believe because I just loved the feeling on them on so I returned them and ordered a new pair and hopefully it doesn’t happen again 👍
I have the vaporfly next % but have not run in them yet. I was due to run some road races but they were all cancelled (June to December). There is the possibilty of a race going ahead mid-December, so I'll use them then. I may try a 5km TT before, but I don't want to use them except for races (until they are too worn out for racing). Thankfully I got them for AUD 200 or GBP 110, which I think is a good deal.
I brought the 2021 Alphafly and yesterday beat my 1st time i did in a half marathon want to buy another pair of these trainers might wait until the new 2022 pair come out next year
That’s interesting pretty good I was always told when the shoes first came out home to not do anything but ration them because then come race they wouldn’t feel special and you wouldn’t see a benefit from it in the beginning of these shoes. I was totally against them but I run in every stack height from five fingers to max shoes, so might try to run some more weekend sessions in my older pairs.
I'm guessing youre going to buy a second pair of at least one of these, would be interesting to have a comparison between fresh and used pair.
currently train in HOKA Rincon ONE-ONE’s, and race in the Ekiden Alphafly’s
love both, especially the alphaflys on “race” day (i say “race” because it’s currently just beating PBs at Parkrun)
I’m really impressed you’ve managed to get over 800km in each of these. My first vaporfly next%s only lasted around 520km before the outsole and midsole wore so much I could see the plate!
Are they near the end or do you think you can squeeze another couple of hundred kms out of them?
To be honest I think I should retire them both but going to take them to 1000km most probably. I just can’t seem to part with them just yet. The alpha is really starting to break down pretty fast now
I have alphaflys next%2. I use them for a two months, and they are excelent shoes. I did few longer runs and my legs was greatful after. Now i just run only some speed or shorter tempo runs in them, yust to try extend their life 🤣. Also, last year i had splin shint, and i thought is this really what i need... They were also on a discount so i give them a try. After few faster runs in them, my little muscles in injured feet get sored and after that i feel even better 😁👌
You have the same relationship with shoes that I have with bikes!
😂😂 it’s certainly going to be hard to let these go!
I usually don't train with carbon plated shoes mainly since I would like to have as fresh of a pair as I can on race day. I have worn the Saucony pros for a tough track workout. But the next% 2 will always be my racing shoes. Always wanted to try the alphaflys, bought them with the thoughts of returning them but haven't worn them or return them yet😅
Yes that’s a good idea keeping them fresh. I enjoyed mine so much I decided to get a racing pair that only come out on race days 😂
Nice, I have picked up Atreyu carbon shoes as my carbon race shoe, at $100 it was worth a punt. Got my HM PB in them (1:37:40) but have left me inured :( back to Brooks Adrenalin for me.
Ben can you explain about base building and its importance before having a speedwork phase weeks, And how many Miles or KM per week to build just to get PB, and how many miles you put in a week when you see theres drastic changes in your PB....thanks
Yes this a great topic for a video. I find the best combination between the two is to increase my milage with easy running and then slowly increase the intensity ie more workouts 💪🏻
I ultimately do not train in carbon fiber shoes outside of a few select pace workouts, mainly for mental reasons. I think I tell myself that if I save the carbon fiber shoes for races then I’ll feel the benefit or boost more. Like I said, probably more a mental thing! 😂
Yeah that was my mind set before! But once I trained in them once, that was it! Couldn’t put them away! And all that money to go back in the box just didn’t feel right! Saying that I’ve got another pair I keep just for races 😂
@@BenIsRunning I have a pair of "good shoes" too - they make me want to register for more events just so I can run in them more.
Indeed discipline is the key... for a carbon plated shoe I'm using the Puma deviate nitro, fantastic shoe
I’ve not tried that one! Maybe I should pick that up next?!
So, my plan with a few supershoes now is to do the same and race them and then use them for training but...how long did you race these for in terms of distance before they were replaced as racing option? Thanks
I'm brand-spanking new to running. I've been researching shoe rotations and models. It seems all the running pundits say not to train in carbon soled shoes. Price aside, I don't see a reason why one couldn't. I imagine a new runner might not make the most of the energy return, or they might overwork their calf muscle because they aren't working the shoe as intended (snail's pace). I'll be testing this theory as I've picked up a pair of vaporfly 2, which I intend to use as trainers after a month [or two] of training 😀
Only Nike carbon shoe I've used is fly 3. Feels like a clown shoe, but have run some fast long runs in it with little effort. Been mostly racing and doing faster workouts in Sketchers carbon shoes because of weight, but I've been enjoying New Balance RC elite v1. And just got New Balance TC to do some longer runs in.
Rotate multiple pairs of vapoflys then a couple other shoes for training.. I sti haven’t tried the alpha but I’m sure I’d love it
The vaporfly are a much safer bet. Wouldn’t be surprised if the alphafly 2 is the next big thing
I find the Zoom TEMPO to be something in between the Alphafly and the Vaporfly. Not as soft and shifty as the former, and because of that they are more responsive and stable when there are sharper turns in the race course. They are also £100 cheaper at most retail places.
I’ve never tried the tempo after having the alpha in my rotation but maybe I should look into getting some tempos. Thanks for the insight Angelo
@@BenIsRunningI would encourage you to give them a try ;) I've a 30+ shoe collection and the tempo are my fav for training, I feel they are more comfortable than the Alphafly and less bulky (even if they are higher stack) and they are more durable (because more rubber) .. you also get used to an heavier shoe so the Alphafly feels faster/lighter on race day ... and they are cheaper ;)
Nice vid Ben can’t beat real world experience from someone who has kms put in them. I got the Alphafly on sale just wondering if there’s much difference to it or V2 do you know , tnx ?
The alphafly 1 is the superior shoe in my opinoin. The V2 is heavier and doesnt seem to have the same responsiveness
Thanks Ben that’s what I was thinking also but not sure , I bagged a pair of V1 on sale 😄, appreciate the reply 👍
What's the reason to choose treadmill over road out of interest? (obviously unless it's dark/bad weather)
Nice edit with the milk 👍
What was the recovery stuff you took in the morning? Looked like supplements?
Hi
May I know how long vaporfly 3 will last if use only on treadmill for running for 5 miles / day .
This question is related for only treadmill use .
Curious, do runners normally not clean their shoes? Or does the dirtiness become permanent despite cleaning?
Same left side irritation... The sole really narrows. Next%2 though they corrected this
For the algorithm.
Cheers SG 👊🏻
What's your fastest marathon mate? An great channel by the way.
Never raced one! Would imagine between 2:40-3hours :)
@@BenIsRunning thanks for replying. Cheers.
I like to put the treadmill in track mode
Not an option for me. I'm one of those who has big issues with the narrow arches of the Alphafly, had to return them. For the brief moments I had them I could its power. So it is Vaporflies all the way for me. Hoping Nike will fix the arch issues in Alphafly 2.
You certainly weren’t the only one so yes I’m hopeful that that the alphafly 2 will be much better in that area. Still find it crazy the the vaporfly is too dog for many having been out for a good few years now!
Mine have done almost 1000km still going strong but due for replacement sponge wise
Yeah they last way longer than I think people think. They just get softer and softer. I’ve got a new pair of the vaporfly I use only for races and they are so much firmer
I believe if you are going to race in carbon plates you need to train in them for tempo run too. You body needs to adapt to them.
2 questions... For the dairy you drink, what kind of milk do you drink? (2%? whole? soy?) and the other, with both these shoes that you have literally broken down have you thought about replacing them with new ones?
I use green milk which is 4% cows milk and yes, I’ve brought a second pair of vaporfly but I’m only keeping them for races at the moment
Ben Is Running green is 2% in the U.K. I think?
What would you say the advantage a Carbon plated racer gives you??
Ah okay, I’ve bought some alpha fly’s and ran about 10km in em, but I don’t want to use em that often since I’m scared of the wear and I’m not rich (bought em with sale for €186). For the short runs I’ll still use my Pegasus, but for the long runs like half marathon and more, I could just use the alpha fly’s
Hi Ben i have a question
Do you think the carbon plate gets a little bit more flex over that many miles?
That's what pundits say: best performance for the carbon sole is
5:15 starts the part about the shoes.
My adidas ultraboost 22 is also near garbage quality after 1 year of use. Basically if u are rich, u should change every 8 months.
I see lots of resemblance to the late, great John Lennon!
Thank you?!
Do you still train solely on carbon fiber shoes ?
If you are a heavier runner, the shoes will last for shorter. If you are a lighter runner, shoes will last for longer. No matter, which model and which brand. Cheers!
Just like brakes and tires on a lotus exige vs a Merc AMG.
Please..... Brought is to bring as what bought is to buy! My left Alphafly also hurts my insole
Gottcha Dave 👊🏻
Hi,
This may be a weird question but I was wondering if you would be interested in selling any of your old running shoes
The first line tho
Jacob Ingebritsen says the carbon plate discussion is silly. He says you wanna run as much of your running as fast as possible, and the carbon plate is helping with that. In any sports athletes uses the best gear available, and there is no reason why runners should not. So he uses them _all_ the time.
It also reduces stress on the body meaning faster recovery time meaning shorter time till you can “go hard” again.
For us “normal runners” there is of course a money aspect to it, and I shave to say I am doubtful of how much it helps with a carbon plated shoe on the easy/recovery runs… maybe the bondi x could have a say in this topic.
I use carbon plates in my rotation, but other shoes on slow long runs and easy runs.
When it comes down to it I think that all runners can make up their own opinion and whatever what that opinion is is right for them.
Some great points! Bottom end, if Jacob says it’s ok then that’s what I’ll do :)
@@BenIsRunning Hehehe yea he should know ;)
@@BenIsRunning Ben Parkes just trashed the Bondi X 🤣🤣 i love the RC Elite, very squishy and protective, not as fast as vaporfly but good enough!
LIKE 👌
Hey Ben, your head is not made of wood, I hope. Lol
Can you make video for the foods??
I don’t understand I’m afraid
Foods for runners
Do the Vaporflys fit true to size? Similar sizing to Pegasus 37/38?
Yes.
Yes vaporfly true to size. If your thinking of purchasing I have an affiliate link in my description to Nike. Be great if you brought them through there :)
@@BenIsRunning cheers mate, do you/anyone know how they compare to peg 38 sizing?
@@MrGardenup I’ve not had that shoe I’m afraid
@@MrGardenup Totally the same for me, I have both the peg 38 and vaporfly 2 in the same size. Both fitting the same, nice and comfy :)
Will you buy more alpha fly?
Only thing stopping me is how expensive they are!!
Do you have same size af/vf?
I do yes! The alphafly I’d say is half a size too big for me though
tell the truth Ben: have you been walking or running to the market to buy milk? :D
Joking aside, success to you!
I can’t help but run. Walking just feels so slow 😂 thank you Rodrigo, hope you are well
I want Vapourfly shoes But I don't have money 😢
How many K have your hoka mach 4 lasted
Mine are.quite shot after 800k
I’m at 1200km in mine and still feeling alright! Could do with replacing them
@@BenIsRunning that's good going.
Ben! Just do the video, don’t do that ‘what’s coming up’ clip. The title tells us what we’re watching. 😭
I get where your coming from but it stays I’m afraid. With the CZcams algorithm, it promotes videos that get high viewer duration ie if someone watches the whole video that’s 100% viewer duration. Having the clip at the start encourages people that may have clicked off the video in the first 10-30 seconds to continue watching. Hope that gives you an insight into why I edit in this way. You’ll just have to skip the first bit 😂👊🏻
Please give me the vaporfly shoes brother❤❤