Police ID FAIL ( UNDER THE TERRORISM ACT I WANT YOUR ID ) Police audit
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( The Police encounter starts at 11min 25sec 11:25 ) but watch the whole video if you want to see the whole social experiment.
I will be adding PDF files on UK photography law and various police ACTS which they try to use to trick you into handing over your details. THIS IS MY PHOTOGRAPHY BIBLE ! Knowledge is power.
Well I decided to record a social experiment in Waterlooville town, UK where I walk around with my mobile phone recording anything I can see from a public place like Banks, jewelry shop and police station and then record the same areas using my Panasonic camcorder which is more noticeable.
I went back just to record a Police car going in or out of the station to use for the ending of my social experiment when these two constables tried to intimidate me into giving them my details under the terrorism act and then threatened to take my camera and phone.
Thanks to Bambuser live streaming and my knowledge of my rights and the law I kept them in check. The officer who was threatening me with arrest using the terrorism act couldn't even quote which act he was trying to use on me ! he basically didn't even know in my opinion. And even if he did want to arrest me under section 43 of the terrorism act 2000 then he would need to reasonably suspect me to be a terrorist.
Officers ONLY have the power to seize and retain any article found during a search under section 43 of the terrorism act 2000 which the officer reasonably suspects may constitute evidence that the person is a terrorist. Recording a police car from a public space does not make someone a terrorist !!!
Possibly PC 27036 and PC Morris 27552 but no name tags. And the UK police are about to get a pay rise because Teresa May decided to lift the 1% pay cap !!!!!
( If you want to be a chef then you better learn how to cook !!! )
ACPO Photography Guidance.....
www.mediafire.com/file/097t94q...
Metropolitan police photography advice...
www.mediafire.com/file/3i7rz3c...
UK photography law...
www.mediafire.com/folder/097t...
Section 50 police reform act...
www.mediafire.com/folder/e2jl...
Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 section 1...
www.mediafire.com/file/ax0sxh2...
Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 section 24...
www.mediafire.com/file/226c3re...
section 5 public order act 1986...
www.mediafire.com/file/u3l0orj...
Terrorism act 2006 section 5 and 2000 section 41...
www.mediafire.com/file/sy77sdo...
Section 35 dispersal order...
www.mediafire.com/file/1vng04c...
Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 section 26...
www.mediafire.com/file/hnzcq63...
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He ACTUALLY said 'quoting the law is not my job'. These two really need help.
She should never in a million years be in the police at any level, traffic warden would be a challenge for her
She'd have difficulty with dinner lady. Literally a waste of protoplasm.
lol
Insulting to traffic wardens and dinner ladies. Mind you, as thick as treacle, that's how the Plodstapos like them, especially in Hampshire.
I think dog catcher would be a better position!
another clueless moron ain't she.
This is one of my favourite Audit type videos. The fact that you don’t raise your voice and remain calm throughout, must have been such a slap to their ego it’s unreal. They absolutely detest it when their authority is tested by people not being intimidated. This is great stuff.
Well, here we have the nation's 2 stupidest puhlicemen and a very inarticulate auditor. The result is good though - those scumsuckers were shown up for the single brain celled idiots that they are, but I really wish that the auditors would wipe them out with one blow by being a bit more succinct with their comments.
@@bmcgoo6027 Inarticulate auditor? He literally tells them everything they are doing wrong and states all his rights. Despite all intimidation. How dare you say he is inarticulate. You twat.
@@jakubs.5966 I think it was a small mistake in the use of the word,
"In the current climate..." of police abuse.
Thank you to all the people who put their time into holding the police accountable and making them more conscience of their conduct in dealing with the public! 👍🏻
Just brilliantly done!!
Poor policing exposed. You were calm polite and composed.
Well done
I love when cops pull lines like "I'm a cop I know the law!"
And yet need to be schooled on something so basic.
“Should have told us that in the first place…”
No. You should have known all that stuff. Idiot. Moron. Maroon. Dweeb. Stupid little boy. It was all published, and sent to you, idiot, but you…YOU…failed to read it, or understand it.
"Am I being detained?"
"That's your decision..."
Amazing. Imagine her arresting someone...
"You're under arrest for murder!"
"But am I really under arrest??"
"Well, that's your decision..."
"See ya."
😂😂
it's absolutely mind boggling ain't it.
Female Cop: "We can arrest you if you refuse to provide your identifying information"
Female Cop (3 minutes later): "You're not obliged to give me your information."
Where do they go to find people this stupid to hire as police? I see England is working hard on it's community policing!
She probably still hasn’t learnt anything
I fully support you mate, good for you standing up to those bullies.
I’m soo glad I didn’t pursue a career with the police. Shameful
I actually think it would be good to try and be that one guy who doesn't act like the rest but you'd probably get dragged down
Herd mentality, if you display independant thought, you wont be welcome in the police force
Honestly if your a good cop then this kind of shit won't happen. As a cop id ignore this guy honestly
This is what happens when officers inbreed with each other, they quote laws they don’t understand and they make up their own laws that they still don’t understand either, in the hope of confusing the people.
Most jobs require knowledge and competence. The very opposite seems to apply to the Police.
as long as the uniform fit's you're basically fine to be a copper.
Stupidity is an absolute boon. The thicker they are, the more likely they are to obey stupid orders.
She is clueless, needs to change her job. 🍔 Burger King are looking for staff to clean bogs.
BK has standards
God only knows what she would try to do to customers using those bogs!
@cult Watch agreed...wat bog ?
Being a uniformed officer is her last chance at finding a man... she's struck out in all other jobs. She's being pressured by her family, constantly asking her, "When are you going to get married?" Poor cow.
What's a bog?
At the end, when you were asking if you were free to leave, I genuinely thought she was going to burst into tears.
When they keep bringing up the Terrorism Act it simply shows them as being PARANOID.
Maybe they are in the wrong job if they are scared of their own shadows.
This is like watching an episode of dumb and dumber 😲
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sad thing is, the only reason their even half reasonable is because of the camera
Just taser the nob
Josh Dwyer what was reasonable? They were obviously violating his right and threatening him with a rest and unlawfully detaining him. There was nothing reasonable about it. They both should be sacked. We should start using terrorist laws against the police because they're the ones that are TERRORIST!
"The current climate"
"Yeah. It *is* a bit nippy today".
"In this present climate."
Oh, are the Nazi's stopping people requiring their papers?
Sadly these dolts don't realize they are acting in the same ignorant space that the Nazi's, Stasi, and KGB did, falsely believing their acting righteously for a righteous cause.
Brushing your teeth and combing your hair could be suspicious to a paranoid schizophrenic.
5 years ago you may have gotten away with the suspicious line, but there has to now be over a million videos of people doing exact this thing. What rock have they been hiding under to not know this?
a man of many parts 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They seem to be under the impression that it's our job to care if they are concerned or feel comfortable: It's not.
Current climate covid and all the rest of it is a load of Crap. It’s just a way to impose there force of control on us.
You did a fantastic job there with that Audit, keep it up. I'm glad you made them look like total idiot's. Your a 🌟 Star.
The Constable says, "crime can happen anywhere." I know. It's happening right in front of me now by you two clowns."
What a stunning level of incompetence demonstrated by PC Morris, badge number 27552, of the UK police force.
The following exchange occurs at 26:58
Cameraman: "Am I being detained?"
PC Morris: "No. I mean, if you do leave, obviously we do have powers."
Cameraman: "Are you going to use those powers if I leave then? Because you just said I'm not being detained so I'm free to go."
PC Morris: "You're not being detained."
Cameraman: "So am I free to go?"
PC Morris: "And by all means, if you do leave, it does mean that we would be able to use powers to arrest you under grounds of suspicion of an offence."
Cameraman: "What offense?"
PC Morris: "My colleage is speaking to my sergeant for the moment."
Cameraman: "So am I free to go?"
PC Morris: "That's obviously your decision."
Cameraman: "And I'm not being detained?"
PC Morris: "That's obviously your decision."
Cameraman: "And I'm free to leave?"
PC Morris: shakes her head no.
Cameraman: "Am I free to leave??" (repeats question)
PC Morris: shakes her head no again.
Cameraman: "What does that mean?"
etc...
both cops were total assholes but she was a special kind of fuckwit
She literally was speechless, knowing that if she truthfully answered "No, you are not detained." he could have walked away, so in her mind, shaking the head "no" was non-committal somehow. What a pro! Not!
Dandy Man just antagonistic, so what does he expect
flying powers by any chance?
The irony here is palpable. She stands there with a poppy on her uniform - a symbol of sacrifice and freedom - while her and her "colleague" try their damnedest to trample all over your freedom. Hypocrites...
Here, here!
Warriorking1963
So technically these two uniformed thugs are the same people your forefathers defeated in 45...
Fought and died for our freedoms
Pull the other one.....
👍
This womanu
Woman is a bit dim there oh tthats why your a copper
The cops are always so baffled about public photography
REMEMBER: Until they have read the Caution, everything is absolutely inadmissable in a Court of Law.
Why are they harassing and shapeshiftng and antagonising like this? The threshold for arrest is to low. Somebody just needs to be "offended" and guess what.
Sirens, I hear sirens.
Yeah that's not how it works :) anything you voluntarily say can be used against you, the caution is only applicable to people under arrest to let them know their rights while under arrest
Absolutely clueless....I hope they and their superiors have seen this...God help us alll
Absolute madness. Not detained but not free to leave. What!!!!!!
@@Saxoncloset i think i got it: he shouldn't leave just because he is not detained, but he leaved just because he shouldn't leave. 😋😂🤣
Simple she was scared due to being filmed if there wasn't a camara he would of been detained she was fucking clueless and fucking ugly
Detained is the same as arrested
PACE was introduced to stop not under arrest but not free to leave.
I absolutely LOVE the expressions on that WPCs officers face at the end...”am I being detained?” GURN...”am I free to leave?” GURN...epic...don’t they teach these units ANYTHING in police college?
I just don’t get it. I can stand there and LOOK at a police station. How is it any different?!
"Am i being detained?"
"No"
"Am i free to go?"
shakes head
But to be fair, as she shook her head we did hear a rattle followed by a whistle sound as the wind picked up.
You're not officially detained, only unofficially detained, it's a bluff, if they don't say you ARE detained ,then you're not, hence her shrugged, non committal stance ------ , all bluster.
“OFFICER SAFETY”….They could always cower behind a wall. Nobody is stopping them. They were not press ganged into being police. They applied.
Sir, you rule. I wish that I could remember the law as you do, I would be out with my camera every day.Thanks for sharing this highly educational video. ATB, Steve.👍👍
"In the current climate" !!! Really.?? Standard response....
I wonder how she feels that 400k views and nearly 3k comments
"You could have told us that at the start". The Police should have known that at the start.
These 2 coppers are truly thick !
They tried so hard to find something on you and twist words so much just so they could see their selfs as the “winner”
Any lie from a person in uniform with the ability to handcuff you and drag you to the cells IS A THREAT.
The current climate was dry and slightly overcast lmfao
Mark Sumner 😆
perfect answer
I enjoyed this comment
And the CHEMTRAIL hell backed up behind them.... 😂 if a kid sprays a brick wall he may be arrested if the Deep State GRAFFITI or sky - dump on us then it’s just fine.... go get some answers to all our LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS ABOUT wtf etc. And serve and protect us ... from the STATE SPONSORED TERRORISM..
Read my mind
They love the “don’t put that camera in my face.” It’s them teeing up another trumped up charge.
they walked into his camera frame - how can they say hes pointing it at their face lmao
The only part that made the policewoman look bad is when he asked if he was being detained, and was he fee to leave and she made a face, but refused to answer. What she wants to get away with is , to detain someone without actually formally detaining them
She was truly out of her depth at the end. God help her when she is crossed examined by a barrister in Court.
Failed to articulate a single crime then started playing games and pulling silly faces when u asked if you were being detained. Severe lack of understanding of the law.
Absolutely poorly trained police officers who didn't have a clue even after talking to their Sargent who by the sounds of it also didn't have a clue. Even if he could quote the actual terrorism act he was trying to enforce and then arrested me under it then he would of been acting unlawfully and I would have sued the crap out of him. It was just a desperate attempt at extorting someones details from someone they decided was doing something they didn't like.
trained by the ai...mechanics of the acts lol
These fools are saying 'you cant sit in a public place and film a police station.'
but a real terrorist could sit and watch their police station unmolested for as long as he liked.
but its not ok for a member of the public who isnt a terrorist to film the police tation, but they can sit and watch it all day?
insane logic.
There are some very nasty cops in the UK this film will go global
Just watched the vid while here in Mexico. +1 for the videographer.
"You're about to publish a video of a police car showing the registration..." Hahaha car reg plates are hardly top secret information!!! She didn't do to well with that argument!
awoodvine The bright white cars with bright yellow patches + lettering are an easier identifier that can be seen better than the little plate.
did you know that the police do not insure or tax their vehicles . yet quick to nick any one else that is not taxed or insured.
Kim Bird i didnt know that surley they have insurance but it dont matter we pau anyway...
@@kravez16 Buses not insured either, they just have a bond to cover costs
No matter how long ago such footage is from, it shows another example of why the British Police are held in such low regard and lessons are not being learnt.
A cop tried to get my details as I was photographing nice buildings & he said 'current climate' I said I agree current climate is awful as it is wet and windy. Really had him worked up. He threatened to arrest me. I said arrest me for a non criminal offence & I will be seeking to have him fired for making up laws, false arrest, false imprisonment & assault, & then said go ahead make my bank manager happy! He went away annoyed!
"the current climate" as if the current climate makes the law something you can switch off and on at will.
These coppers must think Google street view is illegal...
Ha good one! He should have said that to them
this guys just another CZcams provoker
@@paulmatthews5664 and you're just another bootlicker.
This will go down as an all time classic.
I wager these 2 goons will get massive tax payer compo for hurty feelings from this video!
I freaking love you're accents!!!!! Thumbs up!!! These 2 police officers really don't know law at all. They are the same here in America. They were just angry that you know more law than they do. Good job sir. I'm now a subscriber!!!!
Cops have better things to do but it seems they are the ones with something to hide .shines light on who they really protect .
I never get bored of this video, watched it lots of times, Im sure her IQ drops a point everytime I watch it
What IQ?
If you've watched twice she's braindead
@@penguinhunter1357 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Same :D
It is she started at, 200 IQ but slowly she drops down and becames fucked up dropping to 98 IQ
These laws were put in place to protect us against them.
Jesus Christ - Hampshire Police turned me down but employed her I’ve never felt so insulted in all my life
Isn't it sad that we have to carry the law around with us, just so we don't get harrased by police.
Police: Are you a lawyer.
Me: Well you aren't or you would be.
Sad that citizens seem to know more about the law than police who are supposedly trained and paid to know it.
This is so consistently the case that I'm sure they are taught to overstep the mark because most people do not know their rights.....maybe should be on the curriculum.
@@eleveneleven572 Problem is the police have no accountability, bad enough to get a dumb one, a bully can be far worse, not to mention again, no accountability
"…counted sixteen flies hangin' around the food counter" Pullitzer level journalism there. 😉
Wow I’ve seen a few of these videos it’s just amazing how ignorant the police are
How on Earth did she get into the police force. Just imagine if she turned up on your doorstep if you'd phoned them for help.
Officer: "In this day and age...."
Public: "Yep, because in this day and age we have technololgy that makes it easy to film the Police.... ;) "
As I have said a million times, the only crime these road pirates can stop is the crime they start.
Much respect from Chicago.
Swear she’s been on another video like this
Her face at the end was worth a million words she was about to burst into tears. Brilliant that's how you treat plods.
When you pulled out the letters, they were so hoping it was a Permit from the local Council hahahaha!
You dont need to give details for a conversation, thats what makes it an interrogation.
You don't even need to give details for terrorism act, they can search you and that's it.
@Christopher Christos If they have reasonable suspicion that someone is a terrorist they can, and you're wrong. It clearly wasn't the case in this situation, but you should brush up on the law.
@Christopher Christos No they didn't lmao. They can't demand details after a search under Section 43. I'm 100% correct, go look it up.
@Christopher Christos Well considering I'm right, and you're wrong... That was the dim comment wasn't it.
They know you have not broken any laws but broken their egos so they want your detail to screw you over later...keep it up
Best comeback line I’ve ever heard on CZcams:
‘Can you get that camera out of my face please?’
It’s not in your face and you’re the one who came up to me’.
great police training on your part. you are a value to the community training their police force about the laws for free. thank you good citizen.
cave man Something tells me that the training was wasted on those nitwits.
Oh. MY. GOD. She is an absolutely horrible police office!
The current climate of Waterlooville is dire! Went there a few months ago, Wellington Way looked like a warzone.
You my friend have become my favourite auditor. Just discovered you tonight. Currently binge watching 😃👊
She's on the checkout at Tesco now
What, the auto one?!
Needs to be
These two sound like they’re in their first 6months on the job, “as I explained to you”
She says for about the 10th time, the next move is yours!! What kind of thing is that to say coming from a copper! She was clearly stumped. What a plonker. She needs a change or career.
Great video showing how to stand your ground against tyrants. Thumbs up from Texas. 👍👍👍
Definition of Terrorism:
2.2.1. Terrorism is defined by section 1 of the Terrorism Act 2000. In summary the term
“terrorism” in the 2000 Act means the use or threat of action where:
t the action used or threatened:
- involves serious violence against a person or serious damage to property;
- endangers a person’s life, other than that of the person committing the action;
- creates a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the
public; or
- is designed seriously to interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic
system.
t the use or threat is designed to influence the government or an international
governmental organisation, or intimidate the public or a section of the public; and
t the use or threat is made for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial
or ideological cause
Great job mate!!! I've been watching loads of the US 1st Amendment audits, you did a top job. We need more people like you in the UK.
RIP Bambuser though, no doubt shut down by the man.......
These 2 cops should be taken inside and sacked on the spot. For trying to manipulate the law and abuse of power. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour from uneducated public servants. If they don't know the law they should be working in a Asda or Tesco.
The *REAL* problem is: they are *trained* to act in this manner so they aint getting fired. They played by *their* rule book and tried to get a member of the public to incriminate themselves or abuse their powers to get a predictable outcome. Having a camera & knowing basic laws are the worst enemy of the Police as they now have to be accountable (camera never lies).
Dangerous Brian - Well said. Saved me a lot of typing.
And the person/s who employed them as anything but toilet cleaners!
I don't think Asda or Tesco wants these low IQ placeholders working for them.
She is cute though
The sad thing is: this video will follow this WPC around her whole career and it’s all her own fault for not knowing the law about photography in public. The other plod didn’t return so he got off the hook! Well done mate!
The police hate it when the law is on your side.
The Schrodinger detention :) She really had no clue and her partner just bailed on her!
the vast majority of coppers have no clue when confronted with a knowledgeable member of the public and resort to threats and intimidation. This is a great example of why we should ALWAYS challenge perceived authority. Knowledge is key and thanks for posting.
I watch a lot of audits and this one is to my mind the best. Your way of talking is so calm and reasonable and producing the documents put them on clear notice of your intensions and also the limitations of their powers was a knockout blow. Unlike some other auditors you are calm and polite and respectful. This just highlights further the inadequacy of the police and their training. I think you were wise to livestream. I think that chastened them. Your video highlights police inadquacies and serves a useful purpose without being aggressive or obnoxious. Well done you and keep up this style please.
This is how I would have landed it - "I've given you all the documents you need, if you still want to arrest me for photographing in a public place - go for it. But 2 things will follow from that. 1, I will make a civil claim against your employer and 2, you two will go before a Professional Misconduct Hearing, and you will have no defence for your actions, and that, will tar the rest of your careers. Do your worst."
So not breaking the law is suspicious?
Exactly...
Yes. Apparently not breaking a law has the same penalty as breaking the law.
Being suspicious is not breaking the law
To them YES YES IT IS
The government (US and UK) hope that a scared public will be an obedient public.
That was strange... You were neither detained nor free to leave.
It's almost like you were self-detained.
self-detainment IS A CRIME
He should have been arrested for that immediately. :-0)
That was weird as fuck for sure, she should be sacked for trying to pull shit like that. If you are not being detained your are free to go but she implied arrest if he did leave, it's like her brain short circuited and she couldn't process the concept, fucks sake.
Not detained = free to go. You can't be both not detained & not free to go. That dipshit female cop was dumber than a friggin' stump ...
Schrodingers arrest!
This Clip is gold it really highlights what’s wrong with the police. You wouldn’t let us violate your rights and you caught out ignorance if the law so we are going to arrest you.
Possibly my favourite vid. They just can’t stop digging themselves into a hole.
"If you don't give me your details, I am going to arrest you and take your equipment, but please don't think that's a threat".
How you maintained your calm throughout this video is beyond me.
You've earned a subscriber.
Just shut her up by telling her she is dismissed and free to go. Be done with her. Check out High Desert Community Watch' videos, he is really good at dismissing cops like her.
She nearly cried at the end a brilliant audit put those thugs in their place still Mps wont condemn these pirates behavior.
the mothership of audits.
3 years on no police station has been able to come close on the amount of b.s. issued here
There is nothing in any Terrorism Act that prevents photography in a public place.
Filming a police station is suspicious? What utter nonsense. Current climate? Oh for fucks sake......
The Ironman well with the terror threat levels do you think they are relaxed about shit like this? Think before you start typing
"With All That's Going On In The World Today" seems to be the stock line they all use to justify ID'ing people who havent committed any offenses..
markus5006 Yeah, it's like "if everybody would do that" and similar nonsense. There is always a reason why people decide to work for the police, mostly stupidity and malicious intentions.
No wonder there's so much crime, that's two prime examples of thick as two short plods right there!
Well done standing your ground and knowing your rights. Awesome job👍🏽
"The current climate", brilliant excuse to harass citizens.
The whole of the western world citizens are only fed non existent fear
That pig’s facial expressions at the end lol
She didn’t know what to say once she realised she was powerless
Bully boy couldn't quote the law he was trying to enforce. Maybe if he could he will save himself and others some trouble. If the female cop, even when presented with the law and guidelines from her superiors, could not get it.....she never will and should look for other employment. Both of them trying their hardest to incriminate you. Well done for putting them in their place.
These Officers don't have a clue.
England use to have a Good system of education. Why aren't these Officers any Smarter?
The Queen has a terrible mess in her Country...
Officers are Bullying Citizens for no Reason!
What next?
Bully the 6 Billion per year Tourist Trade!
What are they Affraid of?
What are they doing in the Station that's is so wrong?
The People must investigate Closer.
Keep up the Great work!!!
God Bless the Queen!
officer safety. they wear bullet proof vest's, got tazers, and tear gas, and truncheons,, and they fear for their safety from a camera. pathetic.
Just came across this. What really annoys me is that even after they have read the guidelines and the law, they still can't get it through their heads what a 'public space' is. They also try to cherry pick some sections that refers to permission on private ground.
Yes she absolutely did try to cherry pick from that photography law document I gave her, I had even highlighted the relevant sections using a highlighter pen but she chose to avoid that completely in order to try and twist what it said about photographing from private land needing the land owners permission. The section directly above that which was highlighted states that you can take pictures of public or private property as long as you are on public land. Bot officer were totally incompetent but she especially !
My gosh the UK coppers are so much more chill than US - comparing US and UK audit interactions.
In fact both those cops are in breach of sect 26 ( abuse of powers ). Great audit fella, well handled, you kept a cool head and sent them packing. They always fall back on " you have to understand..blah..blah " to which my answer is " I do not have to understand and your feelings are of no concern to me " l loved the end bit where Mr Plod buggered of and left her high and dry...pmsl.