How Much Does It Cost to Replace a Demon 170 Engine? The Truth Hurts!

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  • čas přidán 21. 05. 2024
  • I recently had to replace the engine on my Demon 170 and many people asked how much it would actually cost if I had to pay for the repair out of pocket. I reveal how much the bill would have been if Stellantis had not honored my warranty. The number may surprise you.
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  • @RacerX9
    @RacerX9  Před 28 dny +13

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    • @expectnolove9978
      @expectnolove9978 Před 27 dny

      So I had that stage4r package with Forza performance/cicio performance completed in October and I have 3k miles on the build. This past Monday the 2.7 redeye supercharger came apart and metal pieces got sucked into the engine and it's locked up... So now I have to replace the engine on my own.... Just paid the car off and it only has 11,000 miles on it total .... it's a sad day for me.... My new mechanic said the 2.85 upper pulley is too aggressive for the redeye blower, he said the 2.4 can handle more than the 2.7.... have you heard this before?

  • @ericfaley9019
    @ericfaley9019 Před 27 dny +31

    Racer X I’m a dealership tech. The warranty labor to replace the complete engine and oil cooler with cylinder head removal for inspection is 13.5 hours. Our warranty labor rate is 161.00 = 2160. I’m sure the tech was paid diagnostic time that would be extra time. Also the customer pay labor time would be about 26 hours. Yes on an engine replacement Stelantis under pays the dealerships/techs. The engine cost is 31315. That’s only the engine. Dump the car.

    • @scottlagasse3182
      @scottlagasse3182 Před 27 dny +3

      You gotta love warranty work!! 18yrs of dealerships

    • @douglowden8802
      @douglowden8802 Před 27 dny +3

      Warranty work does not include vaseline , maybe a little sand though . Lmao . The reason i left dealership life 20 years ago .

  • @sstevocamaro
    @sstevocamaro Před 28 dny +69

    $50k was the exact amount I had to pay to get my engine replaced in a semi truck.

    • @Justtwodangmany
      @Justtwodangmany Před 28 dny +22

      😂 twice the torque, half the horse, 20x the lifespan, and actually earns you money. Thats well spent!

    • @joelaichner3025
      @joelaichner3025 Před 28 dny

      Standard , or mountain motor ?

    • @davidthomas3729
      @davidthomas3729 Před 27 dny +3

      I owned a large repair facility that dealt with mainly semi,'s, but we did anything skidders track loaders and we did track work. Had 5 in-house techs and 2 service trks. I personally did all the rebuilding of engines and trans and never come close to $50k cost. If the block was bad I found a block. I'm curious what engine and I'd assume a cat at that expense.

    • @sstevocamaro
      @sstevocamaro Před 25 dny

      @@davidthomas3729 The dressed reman Maxxforce 13 engine was $27k, and the labor was another $20k something, then odds and ends and taxes all done by the International dealer. If it ever goes out again I’m buying a low mileage used engine. Could have saved $10k+..

    • @BASSHEADBOOM
      @BASSHEADBOOM Před 24 dny

      @@davidthomas3729how long ago was that? And what economy? A Cummins X15 is $37k right now and after robbing Peter to pay Paul $50k is pretty standard if your business wants to make money

  • @Aperiderbones
    @Aperiderbones Před 28 dny +11

    Moral of the story, sell your Demon before the warranty expires.

  • @wythetrumpet6419
    @wythetrumpet6419 Před 27 dny +13

    I must admit Stellantis has pushed the limit on performance. Here's the kicker, in the real world you cannot have a daily driver and a race car in the same machine. When cars get over around 650 HP you have more of a racer than a daily driver. No matter how great the engine is, all that horsepower and torque stresses things to the limit and yes they break even in new, pristine condition. There is a reason true race car engines are broken down after each run. The 170 would certainly be a fun daily driver, providing you don't overdo it, because power breaks things, Going to car shows, street fairs, and occasional fun at a stop light would be okay; but if you are indeed going to race it, be prepared to spend big money on repairs. It is, what it is.

    • @mrwhamisrick
      @mrwhamisrick Před 23 dny

      Engines that are broke down after each run are top fuel. That's a whole different animal.

    • @GokuGaming
      @GokuGaming Před 16 dny

      race car engines are generally stock... like nascar.. The reason they're broken down isnt't because of "STUFF BREAKING" its because they literally run it hard the whole time and then they use thinner oil to get every last drop of horsepower out of that car making it wear EXCEPTIONALLY FASTER than normal

  • @cjjacque23
    @cjjacque23 Před 28 dny +16

    The Demon 170 should of been built with a dry sump system.

  • @BroomieIam
    @BroomieIam Před 28 dny +52

    Because a dealership would never inflate the cost of repairs when it’s a warranty job….👀

    • @mahoenui
      @mahoenui Před 27 dny

      Not correct, all Dealers are audited by their Distributors... whatever this guy says , say 50k is not what the dealer gets paid, fact

    • @davidthomas3729
      @davidthomas3729 Před 27 dny

      I don't know what dealership you worked at.

    • @nf100
      @nf100 Před 27 dny +6

      and with most warranty jobs, techs get bent over w/no lube

    • @scottlagasse3182
      @scottlagasse3182 Před 27 dny +1

      Very true!! No KY or nothin’

  • @crebbsjd
    @crebbsjd Před 28 dny +20

    Really great service. Awesome that they can do all of that. To think a 1971 Challenger would have cost $3k or $4k for the entire car and with the 426 hemi another $850 or so. You, sir, are definitely a part of Mopar history. Good video, Racer x.

    • @SovereignKnight74
      @SovereignKnight74 Před 28 dny +3

      Inflation accounted for today's market from $4,000 in 1970 to 2024, that's over $31,000!

    • @jeffrey501green
      @jeffrey501green Před 27 dny +1

      ​@@SovereignKnight74and inflation is caused by the Fed printing fiat debt notes....

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Před 27 dny

      ​@@jeffrey501greenthis and printing money for their debts

  • @stevehaynes7348
    @stevehaynes7348 Před 28 dny +30

    The technician that replaced the engine probably got around 8hrs labor total. All the little things that racerx talked about that the technician did came out of the goodness of his heart. Dodge pays for the engine replacement and nothing more, not the time spent talking to Star and nothing for dealing with the service rep that came and inspected the car. I have 25 years of Chrysler experience and know this unfortunately

    • @scottlagasse3182
      @scottlagasse3182 Před 27 dny +3

      You are very right, most of the people that have never worked for an independent dealership doesn’t understand flat-rate. Over 20 yrs. Most in dealerships. 3 tenths to do a recall and that includes waiting at the parts counter for you parts. Good times and bring your own tools. $$$$$$$

    • @TheSwampDonkey
      @TheSwampDonkey Před 25 dny

      It’s unfortunate the techs get shafted on labor for warranty repairs. I’ve heard and read all about it plus the horror stories in some cases due to shorting the techs.

  • @lukeallen6444
    @lukeallen6444 Před 28 dny +23

    Just finished a CT5V Blackwing warranty engine replacement. Warranty cost was $22,000.00

    • @cbruno12180
      @cbruno12180 Před 28 dny

      That 6.2 lt4 is as common as the cold thou 22k includes labor too I’m sure at 200 an hour x 40 hours

    • @WineHouse33
      @WineHouse33 Před 28 dny

      These power levels are for aftermarket professionals...

    • @goblinzl1
      @goblinzl1 Před 28 dny

      22k installed for an lt4? thats reasonable imo but what would it cost not warrantied.

    • @WineHouse33
      @WineHouse33 Před 28 dny

      @@goblinzl1 factory builders are literally watching CZcams videos to figure out how to increase power levels…

  • @Hellcat-pg5pq
    @Hellcat-pg5pq Před 28 dny +18

    😱And that's why I paid for a 7 year warranty on my Hellcat and kept it stock other than a cold air intake!

    • @rickcapabianco6411
      @rickcapabianco6411 Před 28 dny +3

      Wow- I thought they didn’t do extended warranty on hellcats! That’s what all the dealers by my house told me.

    • @TRX2021
      @TRX2021 Před 27 dny +4

      I got a 125k extended warranty on my Ram TRX.. It's the Hellcat engine so I would assume it can be got on any Hellcat powered vehicle...

    • @Hellcat-pg5pq
      @Hellcat-pg5pq Před 27 dny +2

      Yeah, good choice. Since I didn’t use my warranty, Dodge refunded my money at the end of 7 years. I didn’t buy the warranty on my TRX because the Hellcat engine never had a single issue in 7 plus years. Hope I didn’t make a mistake.

    • @zippedmouthgaming5637
      @zippedmouthgaming5637 Před 27 dny

      @@rickcapabianco6411 I got a Fidelity warranty on mine and they've already been able to bill a new purge valve to it successfully

    • @Hellcat-pg5pq
      @Hellcat-pg5pq Před 27 dny

      @@rickcapabianco6411 The dealer told me the same thing but a couple weeks later I received a letter from Dodge indicating that they would give a Lifetime Warranty. When I called they said no lifetime on the Hellcat but they did offer a 7 year for about $3400 that was refundable if not used. I took it.

  • @MrTurboRotary
    @MrTurboRotary Před 28 dny +13

    I don't know but somehow this saga reminds me of StangMode and his Shelby 500.
    Only difference here is that his Coyote engine was worked by a reputable shop that guaranteed it for more HP and capable of taking more mods.
    However, StangMode's Coyote engine went to the cemetery a couple times /. Then he finally got rid of the Mustang.
    Wishing you the best 👍🙏

    • @Lifeof728
      @Lifeof728 Před 28 dny +2

      Predator engine

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Před 27 dny +1

      It's a predator engine it is a coyote based engine but it isn't a coyote. Also another note some people think all dohc 4v Ford motors are coyotes this also isn't true. There are multiple different ones but most of their stuff after 2014 are coyote based engines but not all coyotes there was also the predator and voodoo and before that the terminator engine and the cobra and Mach 1 motors before it and the condor 5.4 gt500 motor and trinity 5.8 gt500 engines. All dohc ford that aren't coyotes. Just a heads up I see this alot

  • @kevz2474
    @kevz2474 Před 28 dny +14

    That technician must have been a genius. That has to be a hell of a job to replace an engine like that.

    • @KoryBrooks
      @KoryBrooks Před 28 dny +9

      It's not much different than replacing a 5.7 or 6.4. subframe unbolts and drops down with the engine and you have all the room in the world to work. Just a few extra bits on any hellcat or demon engine.

    • @Scatpack-kd3wz
      @Scatpack-kd3wz Před 28 dny +7

      These cars are as easy as a box Chevy to work on 😂

    • @mblake0420
      @mblake0420 Před 28 dny +1

      Lol😅

    • @speedracerjeff
      @speedracerjeff Před 27 dny +3

      Yeah if you work on Mopars it’s not super complicated. Just gotta know what you’re doing of course and have all the tools, hoist, room, etc. My mechanic is dropping a 392 into my single cab Ram, I don’t have the tools or room so I have to pay for the extra Labor etc.

    • @shakerman55
      @shakerman55 Před 27 dny +2

      Easy compared to a lot of cars. Try putting long tube headers on a fox body Mustang with the 4.6 engine.

  • @Chris-ho9pq
    @Chris-ho9pq Před 28 dny +5

    Thanks for your in depth analysis for your engine. I enjoy watching your channel and gain a lot of valuable information on the Challenger. Thanks again and keep those dream cars shining.

  • @mjende1007
    @mjende1007 Před 28 dny +7

    Glad you got it back in working order. Keep up the great content!

  • @user-zi1lu9xd4h
    @user-zi1lu9xd4h Před 28 dny +1

    Thanks for sharing and keeping us updated. Can't wait for the first drag run!!

  • @jgmullins1
    @jgmullins1 Před 28 dny +6

    I had work done on a ZL1 yesterday. It was $159 per hour on the labor rate. Sure everything is a little more in Tampa. Lets call it $170 per hour. That comes to 117 hours of labor or almost three weeks. Yes, some extra stuff done. Never heard of a crate motor taking 117 labor hours to install. Since this was the first time the tech had ever done this install there must have been a huge amount of training, a big learning curve, consulting, double checking, and testing to get to a 20K labor charge. All good, hope this one is trouble free and traps a higher MPH than the last one right out of the gate.

  • @RobertBabb-mm8xy
    @RobertBabb-mm8xy Před 28 dny +5

    Stick with it X enjoy the hell out of it! Real enthusiasts don't really care what the "drop off value" actually is because in real life...WHO CARES? Use what you purchased or what you built and ENJOY IT! That's what we do right? Lol Apparently some people are more concerned about "resale value" or "depreciation value" rather than having fun and living life! Buy it,build it,have fun and let the chips fall where they may.

  • @fertakj398
    @fertakj398 Před 28 dny

    Dodge is giving you plenty of attention because of your CZcams presence and Dodge doesn't need anymore stink on their name after dropping the Challenger line. The average consumer gets treated like shite by most dealers.

  • @jeffnoob8448
    @jeffnoob8448 Před 28 dny +6

    Another honest open video. Thank you

  • @bekkiware264
    @bekkiware264 Před 28 dny

    Fingers crossed that all goes well with the new engine. Thanks for the video.

  • @anthonycorley4793
    @anthonycorley4793 Před 27 dny +1

    I love your content. I always learn something new.

  • @FaithfulServant316
    @FaithfulServant316 Před 22 dny

    Pray you have much better luck with new engine RacerX.
    you deserve it.

  • @greganderson1989
    @greganderson1989 Před 28 dny

    Another great video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @jimferrill1790
    @jimferrill1790 Před 28 dny +1

    Like your channel Bud. Thanks for posting.

  • @artillerybuff2000
    @artillerybuff2000 Před 28 dny +30

    $20,000 for labor and incidentals? That is an insane labor rate!!

    • @richardpauza2075
      @richardpauza2075 Před 28 dny +6

      Then You Do It. 😂

    • @007zzzz
      @007zzzz Před 28 dny

      That's what I'm saying ​@@richardpauza2075

    • @gato8759
      @gato8759 Před 28 dny +3

      @@richardpauza2075you must be the butt hurt tech that got stuck with warranty work on an engine swap and didn’t flag the hours you wanted 😭😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @artillerybuff2000
      @artillerybuff2000 Před 28 dny +2

      @@gato8759 ha, nice one!

    • @justpray365
      @justpray365 Před 28 dny +10

      I’ve done probably 50 plus engine swaps. I can see $8,000 to $10,000 for labor on this engine. They cooked the books a little since Stellantis was writing the check.

  • @shakerman55
    @shakerman55 Před 28 dny +14

    And that’s why you don’t take a chance on the flawed oiling system with a front sump. Dry sump is necessary for those hard launches. An engineering flaw. It happens a lot these days, especially when corporate is pushing.

    • @zippedmouthgaming5637
      @zippedmouthgaming5637 Před 27 dny +2

      This. You're 100% right. That was a decision made by an accountant, not an engineer.

  • @lemuelhampton73
    @lemuelhampton73 Před 28 dny +1

    Good Afternoon Big bro, First I have always loved your videos. Now unfortunately now a days instead of people appreciating the value if just learning something they tend to spoil it by knowing everything. So for the rest of us thank you, & keep moving forward. Have a wonderful day, & Thank you.

  • @JimiJamma
    @JimiJamma Před 28 dny +5

    Why are people commenting about installing the engine yourself. It’s an under warranty car, that makes it a moot point, period!

    • @SovereignKnight74
      @SovereignKnight74 Před 28 dny

      Some folks appear to be Armchair quarterbacks. 😉

    • @josephvaldora49
      @josephvaldora49 Před 27 dny

      Actually, the warranty “may” apply if you use the car for racing. Stellantis could have walked away but they didn’t.

    • @JimiJamma
      @JimiJamma Před 27 dny +1

      @@josephvaldora49 okay, but the car is made for the race strip.

  • @patrickciarcia4100
    @patrickciarcia4100 Před 27 dny

    Glad it’s working out so far… I’m sure it’s going to be fine… great videos…. 😎

  • @user-xj5fx2qe6p
    @user-xj5fx2qe6p Před 27 dny

    Makes a lot of sense to me ,i wouldnt want to change that engine out ,im glad they stood by you and fixed that hot rod , im glad they changed all the oil lines and other stuff .

  • @rickgeraci2027
    @rickgeraci2027 Před 27 dny

    Glad you got everything done and covered. I owned and built and raced many vintage Mopars. I own 2 late model Challenger's. One is a Pro Built E85 Hellcat. I had to relearn everything in the last 7 years of owning these 2 special Dodge SRT Vehicles. It's way different and I don't have that facility or tool's either! But Ost Dyno Does! ❤🐈‍⬛️

  • @aymanlockhartable
    @aymanlockhartable Před 28 dny +1

    Those Caddy’s amazing machine! Insurance will be crazy on the Cadillac give away! My experience once something catastrophic happens something else will follow up. I sell my cars immediately.

  • @ReignitedAuto
    @ReignitedAuto Před 28 dny +17

    If anyone is not aware, when he says a STAR case was opened, STAR is essentially our technical assistance resource and it's basically a requirement on a job of this level to open one up. 👍

    • @amstaffmike80
      @amstaffmike80 Před 28 dny

      wonder how much of that $48k he claims actually goes to the tech for installation.

    • @ReignitedAuto
      @ReignitedAuto Před 28 dny +2

      @amstaffmike80 tech pay varies quite a bit by location but I'd estimate the tech earned about $1200 on that job. Of course the dealer is charging their normal warranty rate to Chrysler, ours is about $185hr

  • @JoeJoe-qq2sr
    @JoeJoe-qq2sr Před 26 dny +1

    Goes to show having your own CZcams channel has it perks.

  • @totalenergy80
    @totalenergy80 Před 15 dny

    Great info

  • @garynunn1904
    @garynunn1904 Před 28 dny +4

    Nice shout out to OCMotivaror on your shirt!!

  • @ctsroaddog
    @ctsroaddog Před 28 dny

    Did you see the new one before it went in or did you check the numbers on the block to check if its a different number or a blank block number? Id be curious

  • @haroldbirge6881
    @haroldbirge6881 Před 28 dny

    🏆Racer X🏆 makes me happy to see you happy and remember no guts no🍀glory 👀✌️

  • @MikeShelby67
    @MikeShelby67 Před 28 dny +3

    I love the expert with the great teeth. 100% true!

  • @dylanarnold4487
    @dylanarnold4487 Před 26 dny

    I’m glad they warranty your 170 brother. Almost all factory blown motors will void the warranty if it has a k&n filter. ( factory charger induction)

  • @gregrumbaugh4855
    @gregrumbaugh4855 Před 26 dny

    Thanks for the update alot of us were wondering what it costs truly not some Billy Bob.

  • @perryalexander5868
    @perryalexander5868 Před 28 dny +3

    They are on back order until the end of this year, and you have to buy the wiring harness separate from direct connection.

    • @ItsBlurrs
      @ItsBlurrs Před 28 dny

      where did you find that info from? and does it say that they will be available through 2025?

  • @raulgutierrez6415
    @raulgutierrez6415 Před 27 dny

    oil level overfilled , like the rest before your engine replacement? Mine is overfilled 7.5 plus, what did your tech say about that

  • @ksdxx1
    @ksdxx1 Před 27 dny

    Every Dodge tech. Should have done what your guy did Racerx. Everyone pays the same amount and should get the same service. But glad they hooked you up!

  • @carlcasteel7159
    @carlcasteel7159 Před 28 dny +3

    Please let us know about what is failing in the engines. Very curious...

  • @Trout2054
    @Trout2054 Před 28 dny

    How’s the alignment after they dropped it and replaced it?

  • @brooks74silverbee
    @brooks74silverbee Před 27 dny

    The Cadillac's are badass but I gotta ask what the 2 smaller black holes under your hood are for?

  • @carculturenation2166
    @carculturenation2166 Před 28 dny +1

    real question is how much value does it lose not being numbers matching anymore? knowing how most ppl pull the factory demon engine and trans and put it away and upgrade a different engine and trans so the demon and demon170 can be put back to stock

  • @raywong5454
    @raywong5454 Před 28 dny +2

    Exactly correct that engine more than likely drops thru the bottom. Better have a lift!!

  • @joelaichner3025
    @joelaichner3025 Před 28 dny

    Did they index the plugs ? So the electrodes face the intake track

  • @jamesolive3693
    @jamesolive3693 Před 26 dny

    When I worked for Acura back in 94 we did an engine on an NSX and it was 25k we had to send it back to Japan they covered it we had to drop the entire rear suspension and lift the car up it was really huge wide

  • @robertwheatley2471
    @robertwheatley2471 Před 26 dny +1

    I realize the labor cost involved besides the $28K for the engine but $50K total is complete insanity. Which explains why I could never have one. They're nice however... for someone else to enjoy.

  • @MisterMikeTexas
    @MisterMikeTexas Před 28 dny

    Is the Cadillac CT5 on the same platform as the recently departed Camaro?

  • @fluxcapacitor9867
    @fluxcapacitor9867 Před 28 dny +1

    That go mango …. Looks so good

  • @srt_bris_9558
    @srt_bris_9558 Před 28 dny

    I've seen 3 170 engine chrysler seap in the tx fb market. But lesson to racer x . On tje average person can't swap

  • @brianenochs
    @brianenochs Před 27 dny

    Did the tech drop the entire front subframe with the engine bolted to it as the aftermarket speed shops do?

  • @Cole-tf3qd
    @Cole-tf3qd Před 28 dny +1

    take out the K frame 4 bolts, take off transmission mount & driveshaft, disconnect the radiator hoses and transmission lines, remove the alternator, disconnect the steering column and spindle/upper control arms, unplug the sensors and engine and transmission comes right out, we just did it, about 4 or 5 hours to take it out.

    • @RacerX9
      @RacerX9  Před 28 dny

      Without a lift with regular tools?

    • @Cole-tf3qd
      @Cole-tf3qd Před 28 dny +1

      @@RacerX9 Yes, regular tools, however, we used a lift to raise the body off the K frame, engine, transmission and suspension. Without a lift, use an engine hoist and take out the engine and transmission together, however, it is a pain the pass to get it back in, from my experience

  • @raynavarra
    @raynavarra Před 27 dny +2

    Congrats . I’m glad they treated you right. But I believe too, that they stepped up for you because they did not want the negative CZcams content if they did not step up. I think the average guy would not be so lucky. But truthfully as well. You underestimate people’s abilities. There are way more than the .02 % of people out there that could do this job. Proper tools and equipment is always important. But there are in fact many skilled mechanics both professional and non professional who can do that job. lol moment, the mechanic went the extra mile and checked everything, including my spark plug gap. 😂

    • @Somanybeats
      @Somanybeats Před 24 dny

      Shout out to that dealership, they knew what was up lol

  • @barrettnichols4987
    @barrettnichols4987 Před 28 dny +6

    At how many miles did you start racing the demon? Even though the break in is 500 miles it says to not race it until 1500

    • @RacerX9
      @RacerX9  Před 28 dny +12

      I had 67 heat cycles in the engine prior to putting in on the dyno or racing it. It actually has very little to do with mileage and more with heat cycles and variable load. I have seen guys with 1500 miles and only a dozen heat cycles on the engine and its not properly broken in. I have also seen engines completely broken in correctly at 200 miles. The 1500 mile thing was put in there for the guys who take long trips at static rpms that don't understand how to properly break in an engine (more of a catch all). Dodge has already stated that the engine failure had nothing to do with the break in process.

    • @barrettnichols4987
      @barrettnichols4987 Před 28 dny +2

      @@RacerX9 Thank you for the reply! That makes a lot of sense then.

  • @paulbramford
    @paulbramford Před 26 dny

    is it still a Matching numbers vehicle?

  • @yodaevil
    @yodaevil Před 27 dny

    I bought a 2011 challenger in toxic orange (v6) rallye package, so fully loaded in 2011 for under 25k. 48k is crazy

  • @aliceajr02
    @aliceajr02 Před 27 dny +1

    Fun fact, warranty labor rate is different from customer pay labor rate. The manufacturer pays a set labor rate that is less than what a dealership will charge a customer.

  • @michaelriebandt6754
    @michaelriebandt6754 Před 27 dny

    I have 2016 Chrysler 200C AWD and I had bad Differential in rear and they had to replace Driveshafts hub assembles whole back drive assembly.
    Covered under car's warranty.
    That was $5,000 including labor and taxes, 2018 prices.

  • @frankwolfrum6301
    @frankwolfrum6301 Před 28 dny

    Whenever we have engine failures all components related to engine performance were checked oil coolers, radiators and torque converters just to name a few. If there was a problem they were replaced or rebuilt. Equipment dealers are different than car dealerships though. But when you are talking the Demon 170 without mark ups the price is not much less than a 2023 Cat 420 back hoe. I think every component related to that Demon 170 engine's performance should be inspected at least.

  • @nicocaps5624
    @nicocaps5624 Před 27 dny

    I just looked at demon 170 specs and it doesn’t not have a dry dump oil system. Nor external separate fuel filter. Also, a reason I think the car is so hard to launch perfectly is the rear suspension. #1- demon 170 ADS suspension on drag mode: firmest rear compression and rebound. Front is firm compression and soft rebound). The rear end links are fixed and cannot be adjusted. So is the rear sway bar. I think if you upgraded the coilovers, added adjustable sway bars w end links, and changed camber angle for more negative camber then there could be a vast improvement in the launch. And first 330 ft.

    • @voodoodiecast
      @voodoodiecast Před 25 dny

      In other words, the demon149 is not well engineered at all. “Baddest muscle car ever” my a**

  • @nailbndr9869
    @nailbndr9869 Před 28 dny +2

    the easy peasy guy 👍🤣

  • @bdogjr7779
    @bdogjr7779 Před 28 dny

    AwesomeX《☆》Wow That's almost as much as the brand new SWINGER edition ScatPack Charger I was looking at a few days ago. It listed for $65k but $8k off. It's my favorite color F8 Green👽🤳with Gold SWINGER billboard. I suspected something was up with your 170 when it was pulling out power on the Dyno. Take care Brother🙏🏼Better Luck this time✌🏼😎☯️

  • @bigtmac23
    @bigtmac23 Před 27 dny +1

    The real question gonna be not how the car is at 500 miles (the break in period) most of us is waiting to see X how is that car gonna do when you put it back on the track. THAT THE 50K QUESTION. anything before kinda Doesn't matter only if the car act up doing the break in Process then plz let us know. Because if that car do what it did before dodge is F! Period
    Fyi, they weren't flying all those people in just because you're special x this is Big money corp business. They making sure to cover their end. Because that car mess up again. They gonna blame it on you and probably wont fix it again for free Warranty or not. so just watch yourself 💯

  • @funnyman1972
    @funnyman1972 Před 28 dny +4

    I'll stick with the simple LS chevy.

    • @MichaelAguilar-vj2nr
      @MichaelAguilar-vj2nr Před 23 dny

      I have seen plenty of LS Engines Blown up. Especially when Clown 🤡 Backyard Mechanics buy a Tired LS out of a Junkyard and throw on a Chinese Turbocharger. Whatever Engine is Built for Performance, it has to be built with the best internal parts. Obviously the Bean Counters at Chrysler only cared about Money 💰 Savings. If You go back 65 Plus Years ago up until now. Chrysler still has a better track record than GM when it comes to Engine Design Failures.

  • @geraldscott4302
    @geraldscott4302 Před 28 dny +6

    I have built, removed, and installed a LOT of engines over the past 50 years. Almost all of them have been older style carbureted engines in older American cars. No EFI GARBAGE for me. I can and have built supercharged drag race engines (unsuitable for street use) using GM 6-71 superchargers, Dart blocks, Brodix heads, Moroso 11 quart oil pan (designed for drag racing) forged cranks, cams, rods, pistons, roller lifters, the absolute best of everything, for $25,000. And they did not blow up. Removing and installing such an engine is a 2-4 hour job, depending on a few variables. I have no idea why anyone would pay such a ridiculous price for a Demon 170 engine when you could build an engine that is several times better, and several times simpler, for quite a bit less.

    • @judgehastheword9069
      @judgehastheword9069 Před 27 dny +1

      But Racer x says you can't put that motor in are pull it out your not that smart to do it.only 98.5% of people can.I believe this comment he made is going to hurt him. People need to share it.

    • @TRX2021
      @TRX2021 Před 27 dny

      ​@judgehastheword9069 Really you want people to bash Racerx cause he said that 99.8% of people Don have the tools and experience to do R&R on a motor...This was not disrespectful to people who can do this but making a point that most would have to pay someone to do it...Your a real winner buddy....I hope people share how much of a good guy you are...

  • @IxXDOMINATORXxI
    @IxXDOMINATORXxI Před 27 dny

    They may have done it that specific way of unnecessarily changing brand new parts on a brand new car that doesn't need to be changed but in practice you can absolutely swap an engine out and put a z new one in with just about nothing else other than a fluid flush, I've done that many times in my life with no issue. As long as it's a block engine and you have a lift, tools and the know how it's really not that hard just time consuming

  • @mustang32758
    @mustang32758 Před 23 dny

    I would venture a guess and say not every Demon 170 owner would be getting the same care as racer x.
    His CZcams channel generates a lot of interest and if they dump on him thats going to not bode well for PR, IMHO

  • @GoatPilot04
    @GoatPilot04 Před 27 dny

    Reminds me of when the 6.7 came out and morons toasted them cranking them up or doing something careless to get the warranty voided. Pump was $4-5k, injectors were $2100, head and block dizzying $$$. Anytime somethings brand new, and *should* be under warranty, it's wickedly expensive to pay out of pocket dealer prices.

  • @VchaosTheoryV
    @VchaosTheoryV Před 28 dny +1

    @Racerx, There's a racing oil by a brand called 'Driven'. It was formulated by a certified Tribilogist and has his own CZcams channel. I wonder if swapping out the oil for a higher additive package would help the demand placed on the engine? Id hate to see something happen like this again. Best of luck bro!

    • @QuicKurtZX14R
      @QuicKurtZX14R Před 28 dny +1

      'Tribilogist' aka The Oil Geek

    • @QuicKurtZX14R
      @QuicKurtZX14R Před 28 dny +1

      I would certainly call them and ask what they'd recommend for it 😊

    • @VchaosTheoryV
      @VchaosTheoryV Před 28 dny +1

      @QuicKurtZX14R LOL thank you I couldn't figure it out

    • @QuicKurtZX14R
      @QuicKurtZX14R Před 28 dny

      @@VchaosTheoryV 😄

  • @edschoenfeld9935
    @edschoenfeld9935 Před 28 dny +1

    Yeah,it's not just a swap.Has to be tuned with computer, one of the reason you have your old times still.Deff not a fun job,you can do on a weekend.

  • @BangZoom726
    @BangZoom726 Před 26 dny

    I didn’t realize that was the hellephant motor in the 170s. How does not having matching numbers any longer affect the value of the car?

  • @alpo723
    @alpo723 Před 27 dny

    ...the CAR was "protecting itself"? 😂😂😂

  • @nicocaps5624
    @nicocaps5624 Před 27 dny +1

    I’m thinking that there’s something wrong with an ancillary system that feeds the engine with either oil and/or fuel. My friend owns a demon 170 which we have tested at the track. Best 1/4 mi time we achieved was a 9.431 at 140 something mph. I don’t remember exactly. About a week later he gets CEL’s. He did a scan and saw a bunch of error codes. A few had to do with oil pressure. Then camshaft slow responses, cam retard/advancing, and cam producing low torque. Fuel- he got a lean fuel error when his tank was full E85, (which could’ve been bc we live in NY and pump E85 can vary from as low as E70 depending on weather. I think that may be a contributing factor. And I believe if my friend was filling tank with VPX98 (which is what I use) and is 98% pure E85 rated at 105 octane then he maybe wouldn’t be having all of these issues

    • @nicocaps5624
      @nicocaps5624 Před 27 dny

      Also does the demon 170 have a dry-sump oil system?

  • @drvr2141
    @drvr2141 Před 28 dny

    I'd be doubling if not tripling the break-in time! Another channel says that the warranty for these 170's states that damage may not be covered if done while racing. Is that true?

    • @poormansdemon3176
      @poormansdemon3176 Před 28 dny

      You can do 37 break ins or extend time for a year won’t change a single thing. If issues it piles up period. Do a couple quick oil changes cut filter apart you have your answer.

  • @Slay0lot
    @Slay0lot Před 27 dny +1

    That’s just crazy! It’s not you fault, but if I had a new car where the engine blew up. I’d get rid of it.
    I can understand if you had 100,000 miles on it, but you know cars.
    Dodge allegedly designed this car for drag racing. They lied.

  • @SirWavy345
    @SirWavy345 Před 28 dny

    What length is your necklace? It fits better than mine does.

  • @zippedmouthgaming5637
    @zippedmouthgaming5637 Před 27 dny +1

    My usual obligatory comment that you should go back to a Last Call Hellcat (or even go pre-Stellantis on the cheap and mod it). My local dealer's region just lost their tech rep (on that note, their entire reach back chain was removed). Tim K is gone. US engineers being laid off left and right. A dealer mechanic can work on a Hellcat. My local dealer actually just did an engine swap on a TRX and said it was relatively easy. I wish you all the luck if you choose to keep the 170 but brother, I would not. If the idea of a blown motor is an inch more stressful than "Unfortunate, but that's part of the game," I don't think it's an ideal candidate to race.

    • @zippedmouthgaming5637
      @zippedmouthgaming5637 Před 27 dny

      I know the idea of stepping back from such an exclusive club has got to be gut-wrenching, sincerely, but if a Hellcat will last you and any dealer can work on it, that's the move. You could also do an entire series on trying to get better times than you got in the 170. Would be awesome.

    • @RacerX9
      @RacerX9  Před 27 dny +1

      The issue is that I already did the hellcat thing and the content dried up.. which is why I moved to the hellcat platform! There is not much out that’s all that exciting right now in my mind

    • @SovereignKnight74
      @SovereignKnight74 Před 27 dny

      @@zippedmouthgaming5637 He's been there, and done that. czcams.com/video/BhBztqTJI-4/video.htmlsi=a-7abJI1e2IIEo-M

    • @zippedmouthgaming5637
      @zippedmouthgaming5637 Před 27 dny +1

      @@RacerX9 Fair enough of a point for sure. Good luck regardless of what you pick. The Plum Crazy R/T was neat as well.

    • @RacerX9
      @RacerX9  Před 26 dny +1

      For sure 👍

  • @jefffreyjefferson9455
    @jefffreyjefferson9455 Před 28 dny

    Does the engine swap lower the resale value as it is no longer numbers matching?

    • @SovereignKnight74
      @SovereignKnight74 Před 28 dny

      Honestly, since the work was officially done by Dodge, and it is well documented, it should not make a difference.

  • @apache4541
    @apache4541 Před 28 dny

    Ouch ! That's crazy 48,000 dollar for new Demon engine ! that's cost 48,000 about same my New 2023 Golf R !

  • @seanmarchiny
    @seanmarchiny Před 17 dny

    Well, you’re a CZcamsr reaching over 200 thousand ppl. Of course they are gonna take care of you they don’t want that bad publicity. Or at least they shouldn’t. Glad they took care of you. All ppl should have this experience, unfortunately they don’t.

  • @flashnmb1
    @flashnmb1 Před 27 dny

    Everyone will be glued to the YT channel; it’s not a matter of if, but when. Hope the channel yields enough revenue; because the next engine is on Racer X. I agree with the other commenter, dump it while you can. A pedigree name and hype; with the reliability of a Yugo; nothing about this was supposed to be practical. Nail it; boom, expensive letdown!

  • @nicocaps5624
    @nicocaps5624 Před 27 dny

    I’m sure they had to do a lot of tuning to get the car just right since it has so many features which ppl forget. the ecu learns and adjusts as you drive. But stellantis also had to diagnose the issue. And figure out why the engine broke. The obdII scan will tell you a lot. But many times it doesn’t bc sensors can be tricked if problem is from a combo of mechanical issues.
    Either way the demon 170 is made to run 1/4 mile drag races. That demon launches so violently and has so much torque that parts will definitely break. It’s not a matter of “if” but “when.” That’s why the manufacturer warranty for this car is worth its weight in gold! When these demon 170’s are resold used. I would only ever buy one from a dealer that’s CPO. And buy the longest, most comprehensive CPO warranty they offer.

  • @drdetroitwheels
    @drdetroitwheels Před 28 dny +2

    Hey Paul have you heard that Dodge has trademarked the name for the United States cuda

  • @bige2818
    @bige2818 Před 27 dny

    It would be really dope to see someone put this engine in a jeep or a viper

  • @midwestlee-iw8nl
    @midwestlee-iw8nl Před 28 dny +1

    this is why , I have a old school mopar .

  • @GMPC
    @GMPC Před 28 dny

    Are you worried it’s an engine issue and this one could go also?

  • @honda116969
    @honda116969 Před 12 dny

    On the average vehicle yes you can swap a motor or a transmission in a weekend if you know what you're doing without a lift but on a car like that demon 170 that's a VERY special vehicle & race car you don't want to be fucking around with that in your driveway like some backyard mechanic that needs to be done damn near in a clean room... A $28,000 engine❓Jesus God congrats on your engine replacement 👍💯👍

  • @Mr2004MCSS
    @Mr2004MCSS Před 28 dny

    What I think is that there would be no way I would race this car again until I had some idea what caused the original engine to fail. If others are having engine problems with this car, there may be a design flaw. I also think that if this current engine fails, Dodge won't be as nice the second time around.

  • @registrationaccount1034
    @registrationaccount1034 Před 27 dny +1

    Sell it and go order the new Yenko 1000HP TT C8 from Chevy with factory warranty.

  • @AcuaNCA
    @AcuaNCA Před 28 dny

    How many miles did you have

  • @eclipes00
    @eclipes00 Před 28 dny

    Send your oil to speed diagnostics they are great! Owned by lake speed

  • @simonsinner9755
    @simonsinner9755 Před 14 dny

    Beautiful car and yeah definitely baby the hell out of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @09fatbobmike
    @09fatbobmike Před 27 dny +1

    Wow, thank God that you didn't choose to tune and void your warranty. SHEWWW

  • @crazypkm
    @crazypkm Před 28 dny

    Just get a superstock . 2022 since the 23s were rushed & have issues