Joe Rogan Calmly Obliterates Jordan Peterson

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  • čas přidán 13. 07. 2018
  • In this Majority Report clip, sucks when your Vulcan logic philosophical guru gets wrecked by the Fear Factor guy.
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    "he Canadian psychology professor and culture warrior Jordan B Peterson could not have hoped for better publicity than his recent encounter with Cathy Newman on Channel 4 News. The more Newman inaccurately paraphrased his beliefs and betrayed her irritation, the better Peterson came across. The whole performance, which has since been viewed more than 6m times on CZcams and was described by excitable Fox News host Tucker Carlson as “one of the great interviews of all time”, bolstered Peterson’s preferred image as the coolly rational man of science facing down the hysteria of political correctness. As he told Newman in his distinctive, constricted voice, which he has compared to that of Kermit the Frog: “I choose my words very, very carefully.”"*
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  • @wgjung1
    @wgjung1 Před 6 lety +4961

    "The Most Influential Philosopher of Our Time" getting owned by a guy who comments on jiu jitsu fights while smoking marijuana.

    • @badsocks756
      @badsocks756 Před 6 lety +222

      juan gomez
      Hey man, I smoke a ton of weed, and I...
      Shiiiiit, that *is* a pretty sick burn.

    • @badsocks756
      @badsocks756 Před 6 lety +32

      The Ghost of Flekk Bone Gnawer
      PERST MERDERNISTT!!11!!!!

    • @redrowolloftnod5230
      @redrowolloftnod5230 Před 6 lety +120

      Classical Liberal sounds eloquent, cultural Marxists sounds evil. How about we start calling Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin and their like - Ayn Randists.....or....cultural Randists.

    • @badsocks756
      @badsocks756 Před 6 lety +18

      The Ghost of Flekk Bone Gnawer
      Marxist marxist marxist merxist merxist murxxist merxshist mrxst mrsx mrx mrmrx
      MURXXXXX
      Wow, now that you mention it "12 Rules for Life" IS brilliant! Thanks, friend!
      *Autofellatio*

    • @eartianwerewolf
      @eartianwerewolf Před 6 lety +83

      tbh Rogan is doing better poking holes in some of these guys than others and I think it is because he just kind of does it in this chill way where it doesn't look like he's trying to pigeonhole them .

  • @MrOysteindjupvik
    @MrOysteindjupvik Před 5 lety +2259

    "Everybody deserves a basic mimimum" is not the same thing as "equality of outcome"

    • @salzshakes4895
      @salzshakes4895 Před 5 lety +83

      Exactly, it’s equality vs. equity.

    • @MrOysteindjupvik
      @MrOysteindjupvik Před 5 lety +134

      @@salzshakes4895 Basic minimum is not equity either.

    • @angusrobins5428
      @angusrobins5428 Před 5 lety +128

      Was literally just about to write a 500 word paragraph on this. I love how these guys have to sink to extremes to argue. Fucking idiots.

    • @josephramirez4877
      @josephramirez4877 Před 4 lety +236

      There are very very few people who argue for equality of outcome though. Even most hard lefties argue for building a stronger worker cooperative sector and well funded local public services like housing, education, healthcare, and utilities. You pay for it by taxing the gains on the people who have the most advantages in our system (and having an efficient budget obviously). Changing the justice and immigration system to ruin less people's lives is another one. All of these things effect outcomes. Again, total and complete equality of outcome is rarely mentioned in my experience with the Majority Report, Jacobin, Chapo Trap House, the DSA, and the Dig.

    • @liamboyd6882
      @liamboyd6882 Před 4 lety +38

      @@evanferreira8606 also those are libshits who think that progress is more female drone pilots

  • @seadog2969
    @seadog2969 Před rokem +207

    Watching this in Jan 2023 and man how Joe Rogan has changed--doesn't challenge JP on anything anymore.

    • @georgebricker8145
      @georgebricker8145 Před rokem +17

      noticed this too rip

    • @bingusenjoyer197
      @bingusenjoyer197 Před rokem

      thats why i clicked on this vid, after about 2 dozen 3 hour jordan peterson and ben shapiro oil fracking billionaire funded propaganda sessions joe has fully become a reactionary idiot who has lost touch with anything involving reasoning

    • @slapster69
      @slapster69 Před rokem +2

      @deedeetops the ignorance is strong in this one.

    • @annnee6818
      @annnee6818 Před 11 měsíci

      They just blow each other now

    • @JohnDoe-my5ip
      @JohnDoe-my5ip Před 7 měsíci +3

      Also notice how he doesn’t appear to be on steroids whereas it’s very obvious he is today

  • @Pierre-gk5ky
    @Pierre-gk5ky Před rokem +273

    Man, it’s so bad for the kids if their mom sleeps around, but it’s not a problem if the kids’ parents don’t have access to healthcare, or housing, or food according to Jordan Peterson.

    • @blackfrancis55
      @blackfrancis55 Před rokem +10

      BS

    • @Pierre-gk5ky
      @Pierre-gk5ky Před rokem +16

      @@blackfrancis55 Oh? Please show me where Jordan Peterson talks about how these things are huge problems for kids growing up then? If what I'm saying is BS, you should have no trouble producing the evidence.

    • @blackfrancis55
      @blackfrancis55 Před rokem +18

      @@Pierre-gk5ky Your "evidence" is that he doesn't talk about it, so therefore that is what he believes?!? 😆 That's a joke dude. That's why it's BS. You would have us believe that Jordan P. doesn't believe people should have food, housing or healthcare? 😂 Whatever...

    • @Pierre-gk5ky
      @Pierre-gk5ky Před rokem

      @@blackfrancis55 What you (or in this case JP) decide to talk about is pretty solid evidence for what you believe, and what you believe is important.
      If you decide to bring up a parent's promiscuity as a problem and talk about it on political talk shows, but don't talk about the issues I mention above, then you clearly believe the one you brought up is more important than the other.
      And if you actually think that promiscuity is more important than healthcare, housing or food, then you're a moron. Like Jordan Peterson.

    • @blackfrancis55
      @blackfrancis55 Před rokem +15

      @@Pierre-gk5ky That makes no sense at all. It's BS, and I think you know it. You're attributing false beliefs to him. It's a devious trick, but a highly transparent one 😂!

  • @edthewave
    @edthewave Před 6 lety +1202

    Jordan "Capitalism in the Streets, Marxism in the Sheets" Peterson

  • @BadReligion9
    @BadReligion9 Před 6 lety +961

    The only thing the JP incels are hittin' is the dislike button.

    • @screechingonions2365
      @screechingonions2365 Před 5 lety +23

      BadReligion9 lol fuck off beta bitch

    • @Ciph3rzer0
      @Ciph3rzer0 Před 5 lety +122

      @@screechingonions2365 this is the saddest comment lol. Conservatives trying to be insulted is neverending amusement.

    • @kuraikenshi2349
      @kuraikenshi2349 Před 5 lety +21

      @@Ciph3rzer0 not true. Sam Seder trying to be smart is amusing.
      I lied, its fucking torture.

    • @maltaian14
      @maltaian14 Před 5 lety +4

      lmaoooo

    • @kuraikenshi2349
      @kuraikenshi2349 Před 5 lety +9

      @@Knekten666 oh yes in pieces. You are SOOOOOOO right. Lol i guess people who call Sam on his nonesense makes them Jordon fanboys. Wouldnt that make ya'll Sam-cucks?? Or some other label thats trendy.

  • @natelancaster4714
    @natelancaster4714 Před rokem +205

    I love the way Joe doesn't let him interrupt

    • @imjstmichael86
      @imjstmichael86 Před rokem

      🙄

    • @annnee6818
      @annnee6818 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Yeah. It's long in the past now

    • @lococomrade3488
      @lococomrade3488 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@annnee6818Still fun to watch.

    • @lococomrade3488
      @lococomrade3488 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@imjstmichael86 Sad because your lobster boy was shit on?

    • @TheIamPC
      @TheIamPC Před 6 měsíci +4

      now he just lets anyone spew miss-information and just sits there looking amazed no matter who or what is said. Its a bummer.

  • @Kevin-wb5jl
    @Kevin-wb5jl Před rokem +27

    “I would argue bitches be triflin.” Best line of the video.

    • @ELP1125
      @ELP1125 Před rokem

      Cause it's true

    • @richardk6659
      @richardk6659 Před rokem

      Yo biotch ok

    • @zafran20
      @zafran20 Před 8 měsíci

      Michael Brooks lol he has great one liners like that whenever JP is discussed.

  • @lunacron
    @lunacron Před 5 lety +1835

    They need to get Sam a pause button, so he doesn't have to tell them to pause every 2 seconds.

    • @SuperWolfkin
      @SuperWolfkin Před 5 lety +35

      From what I've seen the problem is they use so many different ways to play videos there's no way to give him a pause button. Not even like a giant button that presses "spacebar" would work all the time.

    • @chilli1472
      @chilli1472 Před 5 lety +45

      SuperWolfkin just give him all the buttons packed into one really big button. Like, cmon. You know this.

    • @joelbreezy3116
      @joelbreezy3116 Před 5 lety +16

      At this point, they should've done this year's ago 😂
      I guess they didn't want to have to fired anyone

    • @TheJonnyEnglish
      @TheJonnyEnglish Před 5 lety +7

      @@chilli1472 this ain't Staples

    • @darder5940
      @darder5940 Před 5 lety +9

      so the others would be almost useless, I mean other than licking his balls.

  • @Travis7060312
    @Travis7060312 Před 5 lety +548

    I saw the dislike ratio and thought this would be a weak argument. Nope, turns out Peterson made a fool of himself and his devoted followers don't know what to do with themselves.

    • @skulleliete
      @skulleliete Před 5 lety +40

      I would suggest you watch the full 2 hour JRE show before making your assumptions based on cherry picked video clips that were cherry picked for the sole purpose of making JBP look as bad as possible. Make up your own mind instead of letting these loons tell you what to think.

    • @SilverCanary1
      @SilverCanary1 Před 5 lety +6

      Mr somebody you said cherry!

    • @skulleliete
      @skulleliete Před 5 lety +5

      @@SilverCanary1 what no i didn't. Pics or it didn't happen!

    • @obeb787
      @obeb787 Před 5 lety +32

      @@skulleliete anytime you put someone in front of JP and take the time to analyze what he says you can notice he is making a fool out of himself.

    • @obeb787
      @obeb787 Před 5 lety +10

      @@skulleliete watch 2 fu*#@* hours??? Are you crazy????

  • @tolamyb35d
    @tolamyb35d Před 2 lety +99

    Jordan is sober. His mind was forced to put its energy into something. Some choose fitness. Others choose faith. Unfortunately (or fortunately) for him, he became one of the most influential antisocial psychiatrists with narcissistic tendencies to entertain society.

    • @Vegard1986
      @Vegard1986 Před 2 lety +5

      well said 100%

    • @googlegoogle9712
      @googlegoogle9712 Před 2 lety +3

      That makes no sense because he wasn’t sober when this took place. He was popping valium. He’s allegedly sober now.

    • @bkerrkerr3124
      @bkerrkerr3124 Před 2 lety +12

      He's not a psychiatrist.

    • @caseydopp318
      @caseydopp318 Před rokem

      That's what happens when you're a benzo addict and too pussy to detox, so you go to Russia to get put into a coma for 8 days so you don't have to be awake for withdrawals. He literally fried his own brain. He is, in the most BASIC sense of the word, NOT a smart man.. for a guy who claims to be super intelligent and alpha, he sure doesn't drink his own Kool-ade

    • @jeffbell9391
      @jeffbell9391 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@googlegoogle9712so j.p was high , what a life j.p has .

  • @MalakkarVohryzek
    @MalakkarVohryzek Před 2 lety +12

    "I'm not trying to redistribute the weather..." --hysterical!

  • @bw5970
    @bw5970 Před 4 lety +179

    Universal
    Basic
    Intercourse

    • @hanumanvaya
      @hanumanvaya Před 3 lety +2

      Only for a bunch of pathetic repugnant incels.

    • @subversivelysurreal3645
      @subversivelysurreal3645 Před 3 lety +6

      🤣...IDW, Peterson promotes the ‘Intelligent Distribution of Women’.

  • @jiggerypokery3761
    @jiggerypokery3761 Před 6 lety +643

    How come the only time I've heard "equality of outcome" it comes from a right winger saying the left wants it.

    • @Fuctmentality
      @Fuctmentality Před 6 lety +104

      Because right wingers like to use it to mean "equality of opportunity"and like to pretend everyone to the left is a a communism.

    • @bboywolf
      @bboywolf Před 6 lety +5

      Same reason Obama never said he wanted to kowtow to his donors... not smart to say but obviously seen.

    • @politicaltroll8920
      @politicaltroll8920 Před 6 lety +75

      As big a strawman as “Open Borders”

    • @asdfasdf154
      @asdfasdf154 Před 6 lety +31

      Because you don't know that you are advocating for equality of outcome.

    • @hahaclintondix2815
      @hahaclintondix2815 Před 6 lety +10

      Michael brooks literally had a video on this channel saying he wanted to cap yearly income at 20 million. that is the beginning of equality of outcome.

  • @TheClarinettes
    @TheClarinettes Před 2 lety +194

    As many people of said JP is "taken out context" the way he get people to believe that is that he constantly makes extremely vague statements so that whatever he says can conform to retaliate to criticism, he is never really taken out of context he just knows how to say he is

    • @nexya26
      @nexya26 Před rokem +28

      He also puts words in people's mouths and conforms his argument based on it

    • @DMO-DMO-DMO
      @DMO-DMO-DMO Před rokem +38

      @@nexya26 yes, I swear it's like 90% of his political or philosophical discussions are purely based on straw man arguments

    • @zwoptf
      @zwoptf Před rokem

      @@nexya26 so the exact thing whoever made this video is doing, putting words into his mouth and saying “so this is his argument” y’all are so ignorant and lack so much self awareness it’s almost unbelievable

    • @nexya26
      @nexya26 Před rokem +3

      @@zwoptf I didn't make the video, I didn't even mention it so saying I lack self awareness is quite ironic isn't it

    • @Derrad
      @Derrad Před rokem +6

      When JP talks about equality of outcome he is talking about having a % of employees be of X race or X gender , equality of outcome in that case will lead to a worse work force because the employer needs to fill in a quota instead of actually getting the people for the jobs . So yes in this case from the first 4 mins he is arguing against something JP doesn't even stand for or mention. I used to like JP but i have my reasons to hate him now , however i do not respect someone pinning ideas on the guy when he never mentioned them just to "hate" on him coz its cool.

  • @Magnussc2
    @Magnussc2 Před rokem +34

    If even Joe Rogan can destroy JP anyone can

    • @thebluffdweller5029
      @thebluffdweller5029 Před rokem

      what a lazy uneducated response

    • @ascendednightingale2456
      @ascendednightingale2456 Před rokem +11

      It’s easy to do when you understand what Peterson is doing. He cannot condense his ideas. He MUST be vague, convoluted, and complicated so that his opposition feels intimidated. I’ve seen several videos of him being asked very simple questions like “Do you believe god exists”, and Peterson said “Well, that’s a very complicated question. What do you mean by “you”, what do you mean by “god”, what do you mean by “believe”?
      He skirts around the point so that he doesn’t have to actually explain anything. He sounds very profound to people who don’t realize what he’s doing.

    • @kellier021285
      @kellier021285 Před 5 měsíci

      Do you think you'd beat him in a debate?

  • @vvieites001
    @vvieites001 Před 5 lety +984

    Judging by these comments, It’s amazing how many times JBP is “taken out of context”...

    • @tnghunter
      @tnghunter Před 5 lety +48

      lol nail on the head.

    • @georgeallen7487
      @georgeallen7487 Před 5 lety +18

      It really is though.

    • @gotnothingclever
      @gotnothingclever Před 5 lety +99

      "Speak clearly" is one of his rules for life. LOL

    • @muddywitch9016
      @muddywitch9016 Před 5 lety +18

      He IS taken out of context. Lots. Got it? Good! Now go put on that dunce cap on and sit in the corner

    • @rontogunov282
      @rontogunov282 Před 5 lety +29

      could it be because he actually is being taken out of context?

  • @whospetcov9650
    @whospetcov9650 Před 5 lety +647

    The Peterson fanboys getting Triggered!

    • @screechingonions2365
      @screechingonions2365 Před 5 lety +4

      Who’s Petcov says the incel little beta bitch

    • @spike1422
      @spike1422 Před 5 lety

      Where?

    • @native307
      @native307 Před 5 lety +24

      I love the Dislikes. It shows how pathetic the Incel Peterson fanboys are. This video was GREAT

    • @petarticinovic2710
      @petarticinovic2710 Před 5 lety +3

      @@native307 "GREAT" is a little hyperbolic.

    • @ryanv3015
      @ryanv3015 Před 5 lety +2

      @@screechingonions2365 very intelligent argument (not)

  • @MMCV963
    @MMCV963 Před 2 lety +38

    Everyone deserves an opportunity to be successful, not everyone deserves to be successful.

  • @moordhaus
    @moordhaus Před 3 měsíci +3

    I’d recommend finding the original version. The amount of interruptions by this guy is infuriating, while adding nothing except time to the clip.

  • @TheNaqoyqatZ
    @TheNaqoyqatZ Před 3 lety +502

    Looks like all the Peterson disciples caught wind of this and are really upset.

    • @Tester-sh1mn
      @Tester-sh1mn Před 3 lety +18

      Yeah I’m quite upset that he can say such stupid shit, don’t get me wrong he’s great at his job and everything, but well, the environment has nothing to do with psychology.

    • @lampseven4894
      @lampseven4894 Před 3 lety +14

      Or just people with common sense judging it accordingly

    • @TheNaqoyqatZ
      @TheNaqoyqatZ Před 3 lety +46

      @@lampseven4894 Please feel free to elaborate. All of us dullards with no common sense are mindlessly waiting for you to usher us onto the path of wisdom.

    • @lampseven4894
      @lampseven4894 Před 3 lety +7

      @@TheNaqoyqatZ yeah that’s about the level of discourse I would expect around here lol

    • @TheNaqoyqatZ
      @TheNaqoyqatZ Před 3 lety +42

      @@lampseven4894 So you have nothing. Got it. That's totally what I would expect from someone with a "nail in coffin" argument! Cheers.

  • @Killinemkid
    @Killinemkid Před 5 lety +644

    Oh My God, Joe Rogan embarrassed the entire intellectually dim web

    • @KristianKumpula
      @KristianKumpula Před 5 lety +51

      "intellectually dim web" made me laugh. I'm gonna start using that

    • @CalebMcFarland
      @CalebMcFarland Před 5 lety +19

      This channel also has a video saying that Rogan is enabling right wing extremists apparently, and yet has a lot of videos of him ‘destroying’ people who come onto his podcast. So they’re praising the guy they think does that?

    • @estebancomulet
      @estebancomulet Před 5 lety +53

      Caleb McFarland the two aren’t mutually exclusive. He argues well with some of these reactionary dolts at the same time as enabling them by having them on so often (thereby giving then disproportionate airtime). He should have on Sam or Michael

    • @georgegreig8054
      @georgegreig8054 Před 5 lety

      @@KristianKumpula me too!

    • @AnthonyJones-gf6yv
      @AnthonyJones-gf6yv Před 5 lety

      When? And in what way? I’m curious.

  • @TheGiantMidget
    @TheGiantMidget Před 2 lety +9

    How is everyone deserving a basic minimum the same thing as equality of outcome?

    • @johnnybaxter1953
      @johnnybaxter1953 Před 2 lety

      Because if everyone has enough to live the number of people willing to work hard to live out their dreams will greatly diminish. It’s fucked up but hard times breed strong people. Strong people live long and fulfilling lives.

    • @TheGiantMidget
      @TheGiantMidget Před 2 lety +1

      @@johnnybaxter1953 so they want everyone to be equally mediocre?

    • @2262f3
      @2262f3 Před rokem +1

      @@johnnybaxter1953 You have some evidence to back up your assertion that ensuring peoples basic needs are met would cause an epidemic of apathy? We've had 40 years of 'trickle down economics' since Reagan, and we still await the emergence of strong people. We have a small selection of extremely rich people, and an ever growing population close to subsistence. Life already provides hard times for people, free of charge, what we don't need is organisations ensuring that only a few can ever transcend them.

    • @johnnybaxter1953
      @johnnybaxter1953 Před rokem

      @@2262f3 I just look at the world we live in. Most people are poor, but they don’t do anything to change their situation. They go work their shift at McDonald’s, come home, take a bowl, and watch Netflix. I think having a universal basic income would just become a way to make people even more dependant on the establishment than they already are. If you feed a geese bread everyday, it will die in the wild because it doesn’t know how to feed itself

    • @jackiehuff7736
      @jackiehuff7736 Před rokem +1

      ​@@johnnybaxter1953actually, if people don't have to worry about surviving their more likely to follow their dreams, or attain them in the first place. No one said give everyone a mansion, but if everyone had a house, it would provide incentive for better communities. Are their people who would take advantage? Yes, but that's true in any system. I would much rather someone have a house than be on the street where they could be a danger to others or in trouble themselves. The reduction in money paid to the police alone would pay for most of it.
      I would also point out that many countries already have a version of this, and it seems to be working for them

  • @EddyFisico
    @EddyFisico Před rokem +11

    Re-watching this on 2022, missing Michael. They were right all along about Jordan Peterson.

  • @peggels22
    @peggels22 Před 4 lety +717

    This man sure can talk for a long time without saying anything

    • @haizi7179
      @haizi7179 Před 4 lety +25

      Holy fuck I know right

    • @jovaransguplar3019
      @jovaransguplar3019 Před 4 lety +93

      People who don't understand the message love to say that

    • @haizi7179
      @haizi7179 Před 4 lety +62

      @@jovaransguplar3019 I understood the message. it just could have been condensed better, it was repetitive and seemed emotionally charged. So who knows

    • @jovaransguplar3019
      @jovaransguplar3019 Před 4 lety +34

      @@haizi7179 thats the issue though. Think about how frequently he gets misrepresented despite his efforts to clarify things. I can't imagine how much worse it'd be if he didn't make things that clear. Essentially he is just answering questions that would inevitably be asked anyway. He's being preemptive about it to avoid the headache, and so there's zero excuses for people who do misrepresent his position. I get it.

    • @jovaransguplar3019
      @jovaransguplar3019 Před 4 lety +4

      @Umberto Eco ok bud

  • @ideaaddict923
    @ideaaddict923 Před 4 lety +677

    This is like when Michael Scott said to Jim "It's not a pyramid scheme" and then Jim draws the pyramid on his diagram.

  • @lasvegasloner4621
    @lasvegasloner4621 Před 2 lety +19

    Another thing that is simple but underestimated with guys like Jordan is their style over substance. Whether he’s higher percentage right or wrong on a point, similar to Ben Shapiro, he just keeps talking. He starts vague but with high dollar words and phrasing causing people to wait for the next thing he says, then he takes you meandering through pseudo-truths until you’re nodding and thinking he really said something. It’s not fast and trying to intimidate like the insect Shapiro, but it does leave little room or time for many to say “well wait a minute”.

  • @nevaehclifton509
    @nevaehclifton509 Před 2 lety +3

    The willing ignorance in every person that argues against JP is amusing to watch

    • @cg9887
      @cg9887 Před 2 lety

      Facts

    • @keroberos2781
      @keroberos2781 Před 10 měsíci

      Rogan wasn’t even arguing with him, he just asked basic questions and destroyed JP’s stupid points.

  • @TangoNevada
    @TangoNevada Před 4 lety +469

    Sam "Pause it for a second" Seder

    • @pmally2006
      @pmally2006 Před 4 lety +11

      Seriously, that’s the one line that always comes to mind when I think of Sam lol

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada Před 4 lety +5

      @@patrickgallagher3934 I totally respect that. Thank You.

    • @nemesisurvivorleon
      @nemesisurvivorleon Před 4 lety +3

      @@patrickgallagher3934 people ruined it, you can like now

    • @cloudpuncher4615
      @cloudpuncher4615 Před 4 lety

      second that...

    • @andyg7373
      @andyg7373 Před 4 lety +2

      Hate that so much

  • @craigpartain
    @craigpartain Před 5 lety +493

    I noticed that contradiction in Peterson's two positions as soon as he started talking about enforced monogamy. I wasn't aware that Rogan had called him out on the contradiction. Kudos for Rogan.

    • @originalsinquirls1205
      @originalsinquirls1205 Před 4 lety +24

      @Warren Higgins the difference between enforcement from government, and enforcement from individuals is superficial. It doesn't change the consequences.

    • @lemartin93
      @lemartin93 Před 4 lety +47

      Warren Higgins the mental gymnastics Peterson fans have to do in order to defend such a nonsensical point. Any person with common sense will see through it.

    • @luxuscarnage4828
      @luxuscarnage4828 Před 4 lety +12

      @Warren Higgins Ummm.....Neo- Nazis, Antifa, and radical Islamists have sex.Quite a few of them are married or in some kind of sexual relationship. Neo-Nazis especially have a very sexualized culture as do ISIS and Boko Haram. That's one of their recruiting tools. The peeps in Antifa get laid all of the time. They go to protests and settle down with a partner for the duration of the protests or they are already in a relationship. Obviously, not all of them have sex. Not all of them want to. Ijs, it's incorrect to use those groups as an example. Even if sexuality if somewhat repressed like it is in Right Wing Christianity people still have sex. Why do you think so many of these people marry so young?

    • @tasmiraziz5260
      @tasmiraziz5260 Před 4 lety +1

      @Warren Higgins if Peterson or you knew anything about the Holocaust, about the Genocide, you'd know your point makes no sense.

    • @tasmiraziz5260
      @tasmiraziz5260 Před 4 lety +9

      @Warren Higgins also, since you live under a rock. There are many societies that have monogamy. In Pakistan, the Middle East even though re marrying is allowed in Islam there is a culture of monogamy. Also there is no relationship between women being strong and "fucking guys". This comes from yours and Peterson's extremely poor understanding of feminism.
      Extremism is caused by many factors but you have absolutely 0 data to support the claim that it comes from sexual frustration.
      The reason Peterson picks this is because otherwise he will have to address hierarchies, concede that hierarchies being corrupt actually stabilize society i.e mysogny, slavery, racism and so on, and then have to retract his point when he characterizes identifying oppressive hierarchies as complaining or playing indentity politics.

  • @dptdgclick5132
    @dptdgclick5132 Před rokem +10

    Jordan peterson is a college freshman for a living

  • @jimmaynard
    @jimmaynard Před rokem +32

    In this video: Sam does not understand the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome

    • @JamesScott-kg7rk
      @JamesScott-kg7rk Před rokem

      Sam is a communist.

    • @alfonzomma
      @alfonzomma Před rokem +5

      Completely agree, he is clueless

    • @JM-ev9gh
      @JM-ev9gh Před rokem

      @@alfonzomma Explain?

    • @outofworkactor3033
      @outofworkactor3033 Před rokem +1

      He really doesn't, and his whole argument is built on his complete misconception of equality of outcome. Sam is seeing this debate through a very different lens to mine.

    • @JM-ev9gh
      @JM-ev9gh Před rokem

      @@outofworkactor3033 How so? And why does JP equivocate?

  • @I_Get_Computers_Puting
    @I_Get_Computers_Puting Před 5 lety +283

    Look at the ratio and you'll see the how active Peterson fanboys and conservatives are on social media. They're on here to show their feelz

    • @aprioriontoast704
      @aprioriontoast704 Před 5 lety +23

      it's concerning and embarrassing...

    • @michaelbennett8981
      @michaelbennett8981 Před 5 lety +9

      You have ratios? Please do share! As a non conservative or fanboy, I'm unsure where I fair in these ratios; I heard both sides of the argument and Perterson makes very good arguments.
      Could it not be said that anyone posting a comment are there to show their feelz.

    • @aprioriontoast704
      @aprioriontoast704 Před 5 lety +9

      @@michaelbennett8981 Not all points he ever makes are bad but the ones in this video are , and they are very conservative views not to mention dishonest. There are centrists and folks with left leaning views who fall for some of his conservative views as well as the "fanboys" and conservatives but it's hard to justify the like to dislike ratio on them because it's easy to fathom a agenda can corrupt peoples judgement more than people defending his sophistry because his points are good because this video broke down why they are riduilous.

    • @I_Get_Computers_Puting
      @I_Get_Computers_Puting Před 5 lety +4

      @@michaelbennett8981 blah blah, spare me your bs.

    • @megafanflash
      @megafanflash Před 5 lety +2

      feels over reals mydude.

  • @federicomorra2323
    @federicomorra2323 Před 3 lety +450

    *in a high pitched JP voice* "I would argue that Bitches be Trifling"
    Thanks Michael, you'll always be in our hearts

    • @MasterBeeF649
      @MasterBeeF649 Před 3 lety +17

      RIP. Too bright. Too young.

    • @thune4944
      @thune4944 Před 3 lety +1

      Amen

    • @Str1ek0
      @Str1ek0 Před 3 lety +1

      Wait dude died

    • @federicomorra2323
      @federicomorra2323 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Str1ek0 unfortunately yes, something quick like an aneurysm, he will be missed.

    • @Str1ek0
      @Str1ek0 Před 3 lety +7

      @@federicomorra2323 May he Rest In Peace

  • @freakotech2410
    @freakotech2410 Před 2 lety +11

    Man, I think you need to learn what "Equality of Outcome " actually means?

    • @igo9481
      @igo9481 Před 2 lety

      why dont you educate us

  • @ang3latos
    @ang3latos Před rokem +4

    Should’ve had JP on the show to ask him their questions directly rather than make a 20 minute video building straw men in his absence.

    • @JM-ev9gh
      @JM-ev9gh Před rokem +1

      He would never do it. He's a coward with his big tears for all incels.

    • @ang3latos
      @ang3latos Před rokem

      @@JM-ev9gh idk where this whole “incel hero” idea came from, he has many videos where he speaks directly about incel types telling them they need to stop blaming women or society for their misery and shape themselves up. Seems like the exact right message.

    • @JM-ev9gh
      @JM-ev9gh Před rokem +1

      @@ang3latos He literally says that men who identify as incels should be able to have sex with women through enforced monogamy. That equality of opportunity should apply in the sexual realm.

    • @JM-ev9gh
      @JM-ev9gh Před rokem

      Incels love him and that should say a lot

    • @ang3latos
      @ang3latos Před rokem

      @@JM-ev9gh I think you’re mischaracterizing his points with an intent to discredit him, because I know the talking point you’re referencing. “Enforced” here doesn’t mean legally, the context is that societal enforcement disapproves of infidelity, and that healthy monogamous relationships are encouraged. The type of incel man who feels entitled to sex should instead channel energy into sorting their lives out in order to become desirable by women, which is a perfectly reasonable and healthy thing to do. To say incel men look up to JP is really to say that they are finally hearing an encouraging message to fix their own lives. We shouldn’t just cast these people out, they need help to see what they’ve been doing wrong.

  • @tilosobelman3114
    @tilosobelman3114 Před 4 lety +743

    interview him yourself. that'd be interesting

    • @FlaccidSunday
      @FlaccidSunday Před 4 lety +22

      Please

    • @PogDuncher
      @PogDuncher Před 4 lety +204

      Sam Seder is too stupid to actually understand what Peterson talks about. He takes everything he says literally, even though most of what Peterson talks about is either hypothetical or grounded in evidence. Even though Peterson may claim that various forms of equal outcome may be beneficial in some ways, he still stands by his opinion that equal outcome is dangerous, which it is.

    • @tilosobelman3114
      @tilosobelman3114 Před 4 lety +34

      yeah I find it interesting for people to have these sides but never speak to the person themselves.

    • @hungryhyena783
      @hungryhyena783 Před 4 lety +7

      Liam Hansen
      Very very true.

    • @IVIicro
      @IVIicro Před 4 lety +55

      @@PogDuncher fucking facts! lol its so easy to interpret. blows my mind how they take his word and make it seem so bad. Sam seder takes it way too literally and his bias really stands out when he does.

  • @bedwaaqcawsgurow6401
    @bedwaaqcawsgurow6401 Před 5 lety +328

    He is trying to solve a problem he just created in his mind, and refusing to acknowledge the existing ones.

    • @jon477
      @jon477 Před 4 lety +6

      Which existing problems does he refuse to aknowledge?

    • @interycreeper1152
      @interycreeper1152 Před 4 lety +4

      Did he create the Black Pill and partly MGTOW ideology in his mind just there?

    • @forretressrex9519
      @forretressrex9519 Před 4 lety +3

      RARAYAYA RAA can you give me an example of systematic racism?

    • @interycreeper1152
      @interycreeper1152 Před 4 lety +5

      @@forretressrex9519 Remember when Harvard discriminated against asians? I honestly don't know a lot in this area so eh. Dont take this seriously I'm just that dumb guy in the back guessing an answer because theres noone else answering

    • @forretressrex9519
      @forretressrex9519 Před 4 lety +4

      InteryCreeper it’s alright bro, and you’re right. That’s actually is a good example of institutional racism that ironically was caused by schools using affirmative action to fill in enrollment spots. I was hoping for more government related but given the fact that affirmative action derived from the government, it was a good example.

  • @magicaree
    @magicaree Před rokem +3

    If you are going to criticize Jordan Peterson at least learn to speak first

  • @rubiskelter
    @rubiskelter Před 2 lety +8

    That dude impersonating Jordan at 17:18 is hilarious!! Why didn't Sam let him continue??

  • @deadmanthehekatonkheire994
    @deadmanthehekatonkheire994 Před 5 lety +305

    I love the comments on this video. They're either idiots saying Sam strawmanned Peterson -- he didn't. Idiots claiming that Peterson didn't just argue for equality of sexual outcome -- we *literally* just watched him do that. Or idiots claiming Sam just doesn't understand Peterson's argument -- that doesn't surprise me. I love it.

    • @subversivelysurreal3645
      @subversivelysurreal3645 Před 5 lety +11

      DeadMan the Hekatonkheire : It’s the Best!! How could it BE any clearer?! I love this video! 🤣

    • @mikenedelcu3682
      @mikenedelcu3682 Před 5 lety +23

      Peterson is not smart enough to outwit joe rogan...nevermind sam seder lol.

    • @Mr_Hassell
      @Mr_Hassell Před 5 lety +25

      You know you are dealing with a cult when things like this happen.

    • @kuraikenshi2349
      @kuraikenshi2349 Před 5 lety +4

      Sam stated that Equality of outcome is a nice, compassionate, notion where its all "basic". He and you can shut the fuck up. The major issue in the discussion is that him and you can't seem to ever want to draw the line of your righteous nonesense. The basic minimums always fucking change and its always ALWAYS common in this shit is that its one group can dictate the rules or standings of others and actual force them from those who step out of line.

    • @benrnw4653
      @benrnw4653 Před 5 lety +13

      Kurai Kenshi: You didn't address any of the 3 arguments the OP mentioned, let alone pose any counter argument. All you did was claim to know how they think and what lines they draw and when. Must be awesome to have such insight into complete strangers entire thoughts and feelings on everything across the political spectrum simply from a comment on CZcams.
      Very impressive skill set, sir. Maybe you should use it for good, and not ignorant nonsense lacking actual counter arguments. But to each their own.

  • @DjNic11
    @DjNic11 Před 5 lety +258

    This video does have a legitimate criticism of Peterson. @ 15:10 This is where Peterson realizes what he is about to say *directly* contradicts himself. And Kudos to Joe for pointing this out.

    • @joealias2594
      @joealias2594 Před 5 lety +41

      What's so funny about this example is that they show him receiving a criticism, *acknowledging that it's a valid criticism*, *and taking time to think it through*. What a sad state we're in, when acknowledging a criticism without an immediate response ready is a sign of being wrong. Because if you ask me, the people who are willing to do that are far more likely to be right than those who seem "immune" to criticism.

    • @Eggbergster
      @Eggbergster Před 5 lety +26

      @@joealias2594 Yes, you can tell peterson is having these discussions in the genuine pursuit of truth and therefore recognizes when there's a valid point being made

    • @kenweaver08
      @kenweaver08 Před 5 lety +41

      @@joealias2594 Yes, he acknowledges the criticism and takes time to think it through, but he just waves it off and doesn't actually address it. And, it is a sign of being wrong, sorry. Just because I can acknowledge a criticism when someone points it out to me and I think about it doesn't mean I wasn't wrong.
      Peterson didn't produce a counter-argument to what Rogan was saying and just claimed that his point and Rogan's weren't contradictory. Then he moved on to another topic.

    • @pranays
      @pranays Před 5 lety +8

      This guy watches the video before commenting, unlike the Lobster virgins cult.

    • @jesspavlichenko5745
      @jesspavlichenko5745 Před 5 lety +20

      @@joealias2594 he is wrong but he didn't ultimately concede his point so he is being intellectually dishonest - no reason to glorify that

  • @ajax7277
    @ajax7277 Před 3 měsíci +1

    And then Joe Rogan wanted to tell us that he wants to date Jon Jones?

  • @DRCification
    @DRCification Před 2 lety +2

    Watching this was a major waste of time.

  • @Onus6688
    @Onus6688 Před 5 lety +344

    I feel like some people disliked this video before they watched it....

    • @MrMITOOS
      @MrMITOOS Před 5 lety +43

      I watched it all and it's a total misrepresentation of Jordan Peterson's point of view. And I know that because I actually watched the whole Joe Rogan interview with JP.
      And I'm a liberal..

    • @MrMITOOS
      @MrMITOOS Před 5 lety +19

      Actually if this clown (whatever his name is) was honest, he wouldn't pause every 2 seconds. What's he afraid of? Isn't it just a battle of ideas? Let's hear both sides and see what's he debunking, instead of this straw man beating.
      If JP is as ignorant and stupid as this guy wants us to believe, why not show the whole part where JP is explaining the idea that this guy is trying to take down?
      Oh, that's right. Because he's a conman.

    • @Onus6688
      @Onus6688 Před 5 lety +92

      @@MrMITOOS I don't agree with everything Sam does and says, however I do agree that Jordan Peterson is a joke in political circles.. Not trying to be rude but maybe you're young or just getting into politics... or he tells you what you want to hear

    • @MrMITOOS
      @MrMITOOS Před 5 lety +7

      @@Onus6688
      I can't care less what both guys have to offer but I just hate demonizing people because they stand on the wrong side. Watched a lot of people like this guy trying hard to label JP and insult him in all different ways and call him alt right and nazis and all nonsense and can't remember one time that JP trying to insult people for their stance.
      So at least honesty and respect is in his side.
      All I'm saying is. When you call someone an ALT right and all the smearing BS and they respond with respect because all they care about is to get their points heard, THEY WIN!
      Smear tactics are evil. You think someone is wrong, show it.

    • @JBJ0n3s
      @JBJ0n3s Před 5 lety +31

      @@MrMITOOS you should call in today in the fun half and share your views with Sam directly. The show starts at noon. (Edit, noon American Eastern standard Time that is)...

  • @ahmedetemadi3434
    @ahmedetemadi3434 Před 3 lety +760

    Equality of outcome shown in the dislike to like ratio on this video.

    • @danstalter
      @danstalter Před 3 lety +81

      @right right That's a bold claim there, buddy. Peterson is one of the least hate worthy people in academia. I'd love to hear your totally unbiased, super duper objective reasoning for why you hate the guy.

    • @evanclealand9231
      @evanclealand9231 Před 3 lety +235

      @@danstalter he's a junkie hypocrite blaming his wife's cancer for his dependence. He should take his own advice & "clean up his room" before criticizing the world.

    • @jakewhite8340
      @jakewhite8340 Před 3 lety +161

      @@danstalter he’s actually a moron who doesn’t understand history. Slavoj Zizek owned him into oblivion

    • @icorrectly
      @icorrectly Před 3 lety +134

      @@evanclealand9231 Do you even know the situation he was in leading up to his health crisis? He wasn't a junkie. His health actually declined because he tried to quit benzos cold turkey after he discovered how adversely they were affecting him, and how much they exacerbated his depression and autoimmune issues. He didn't blame his wife's cancer for his dependence (not abuse) even once. He was dependent on them because if he didn't take them, his symptoms worsened, so the drugs that were slowly killing him were also keeping him alive in the short-term. Smugness born of ideological differences is super cringy, man. Especially when you're inferring such awful, untrue things about the crisis he and his family had been facing just because you disagree with and want to try and invalidate him as a "junkie". That's pretty pathetic. Ad hominem does not an argument make.

    • @evanclealand9231
      @evanclealand9231 Před 3 lety +79

      @@icorrectly there were better solutions than being a junkie hypocrite misogynist.

  • @pano3607
    @pano3607 Před 2 lety +2

    17:12 “I would argue…”
    🤣

  • @strichar8519
    @strichar8519 Před rokem +17

    After watching both sides of this argument, it seems obvious to me, that the host of this show is the one that hasn't spent 10 mins to think about what JP is talking about. He just jumps on his soapbox and makes what JP talks about into some clown show, and has nothing to do with what he actually is espousing. Equality of outcome is a big difference from equality of opportunity.

    • @sophiasanders8321
      @sophiasanders8321 Před rokem +1

      smart

    • @PZBrooklyn
      @PZBrooklyn Před 9 měsíci

      @@sophiasanders8321 yes, I can't stand Peterson, but the host is absolutely attacking a straw man, completely misstating the point. It's very annoying because it is possible to critique what Peterson is actually saying.

    • @PookieMasten
      @PookieMasten Před 9 měsíci

      Exactly. Well said. This guy kn the glasses can barely string a sentence together. I think this guy is about 80 IQ points below JP and thats his problem perhaps

    • @The_Zeta_Male
      @The_Zeta_Male Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@PZBrooklyn great explanation by you and that other guy on why what jordan peterson said was super smart, ACTUALLY
      it was a very convincing argument and i for one am sorry i doubted the lobster lord's gigantic brain for even a second

  • @GRRAB
    @GRRAB Před 4 lety +60

    Sam seeing the stockmarket drop a thousand points in a day
    *pause it*

  • @Lunar_Pendragon
    @Lunar_Pendragon Před 3 lety +271

    I've been watching TMR's old videos for so long and didn't realise that Michael Brooks had passed away. That's so surprising, I'm shocked. Rest in peace, rest easy, man.

  • @henryschmid2808
    @henryschmid2808 Před 2 lety +5

    his point about how number of single parents has gone down is counteracted by the increase in number of divorced parents

    • @w.s.soapcompany94
      @w.s.soapcompany94 Před rokem +2

      Shared custody is not single parenting.

    • @itayr15
      @itayr15 Před rokem

      ​​@@w.s.soapcompany94 but Jordan Peterson didn't talk about single parenting lol, he talked about families were the parents weren't together

    • @adrienneclarke3953
      @adrienneclarke3953 Před 7 měsíci

      Some men do it well. Nick Cannon and all his kids come to mind.

  • @christopherbuss680
    @christopherbuss680 Před rokem +9

    Whenever the right doesnt have a real answer when asked to point out where a behavior is bad they revert to "its bad for kids" even tho its completely unrelated

  • @mattshalash
    @mattshalash Před 2 lety +97

    This guy has no idea what equality of outcome is.

    • @JD..........
      @JD.......... Před 2 lety +19

      Lol, not even remotely.
      He literally said it means no one should starve. Talk about confused.

    • @arkadihughes4893
      @arkadihughes4893 Před 2 lety +1

      Who, Joe? Ikr?

    • @mattshalash
      @mattshalash Před 2 lety +16

      @@arkadihughes4893 nah, the person hosting/ commenting on the Jordan Peterson video. I guess his name is Sam

    • @whatsgood6440
      @whatsgood6440 Před 2 lety +17

      @@mattshalash awwww you tried.

    • @gladyslucas198
      @gladyslucas198 Před 2 lety +21

      Because Sam isn't attacking the silly strawman that Peterson throws out. Nobody actually believes in equality of outcome as an ideology except a couple of 19 year old college dumbfucks.

  • @mackwhitz5312
    @mackwhitz5312 Před 4 lety +53

    We can hear him talk there's no need for your false interpretation

    • @swagulationstation5278
      @swagulationstation5278 Před 4 lety +4

      mack whitz Why would you watch the MR commentary video instead of the JRE podcast itself if you aren’t interested in commentary?

    • @mackwhitz5312
      @mackwhitz5312 Před 4 lety +8

      @@swagulationstation5278 to listen to his perspective is why, I just happened to find it to be shit

    • @AdrianDWolfe
      @AdrianDWolfe Před 4 lety +9

      @@mackwhitz5312 I also wanted to see how perverted Sams perspective on this would be. These guys are quacks. People should watch the actual podcast not this garbage. Chopped so much it means nothing, this guy pretends to understand the words JP is saying but its clear hes just puttin his own narrative. Gotta watch the original podcast.

    • @mackwhitz5312
      @mackwhitz5312 Před 4 lety +4

      @@AdrianDWolfe I have watched the podcast and that's why I know this moron is just twisting short clips so he can shine his armor and be the swj white knight nobody asked for

  • @danielbrown9095
    @danielbrown9095 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hilarious how this aged

  • @ScottJB
    @ScottJB Před rokem +1

    Omg I know this is old but the Kermit JP voice has me dying 💀

  • @akassasin5768
    @akassasin5768 Před 4 lety +9

    This dude doesnt at all understand what jordan was saying

    • @venceibul5676
      @venceibul5676 Před 4 lety

      Your connecting to points that have now connection.

  • @TerenceMakapan
    @TerenceMakapan Před 4 lety +54

    "Pause it. "
    S. Seder

    • @bobkeps2095
      @bobkeps2095 Před 3 lety +1

      Jordans is about to explain his point.... "pause it" and let me insert my idea
      -sam seder

  • @tomcoleman2165
    @tomcoleman2165 Před rokem +10

    Sam explaining equality of outcome, really made it clear that he has no idea what JP means with equality of outcome.

    • @massive1337
      @massive1337 Před 4 měsíci

      I think JP is a quack, but this idea that EVERYBODY must be given something to eat and a place to live. Who is supposed to give it to them and why ?

    • @boston-ku4gi
      @boston-ku4gi Před 3 měsíci

      Yes the analogy of sexuality and inequality of outcome doesn’t work. However that does not mean his whole inequality of outcome premise is invalid in all situations. If I tell you we should allow ALL people to have an equal chance to succeed that is equality of opportunity. Most people agree on that. If I tell you we HAVE to make sure 50% of woman are successful because 50% of men are that is equality of outcome. If I tell you 50% of the stem fields should be represented by woman despite the fact Men show more interest on avg in those fields, that is problematic, and has real consequences. If you don’t believe so why don’t you go look at some of these big companies that have fallen apart and see how bad all aspects have gotten because they put people in positions that shouldn’t be there. So instead of you laughing because someone got tripped up, why don’t you tell your arguments on how everyone having an equal representation, across all fields, no matter what their qualifications, benefits our society??!!

  • @ajax7277
    @ajax7277 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Women getting a choice to do what they want with their bodies and sexuality is the same thing as racism, according to Peterson

  • @cubsfan8293
    @cubsfan8293 Před 6 lety +181

    when Joe Rogan can easily debunk your argument you're doing something wrong.

    • @johnedwards1968
      @johnedwards1968 Před 6 lety +19

      Brandon Scienski I think Rogen is a smarter guy than most people give credit. That makes it doubly disappointing that he fluffed vacuous nitwits like Rubin and Peterson in the first place, but he seems to be tearing them down now.

    • @cubsfan8293
      @cubsfan8293 Před 6 lety +12

      Despicably Irascible Rapscallion I don't think Joe Rogan is dumb like most people do. however he is very chill and laid back and doesn't really tear into people.

    •  Před 6 lety +14

      I think he heard critics who rightly denounced him as an alt-right doormat and is trying to prove he isnt.

    • @theaviationist.5719
      @theaviationist.5719 Před 6 lety +1

      I am from the UK, but what is the hype about Joe Rogan? I have watched a few of his podcasts but all I see is a egocentric presenter that will absolutely try to rationalise viewpoint that are dear to him but will attack others for views that are dear to them.. lol

    • @darkbeen
      @darkbeen Před 6 lety +5

      Joe doesn't get enough credit for his intelligence because people still think weed makes you dumb

  • @patricktrinh5933
    @patricktrinh5933 Před 4 lety +169

    Regardless of your stance, you are misrepresenting and misunderstanding both.

    • @Xeando
      @Xeando Před 4 lety +10

      Well put

    • @reconx86
      @reconx86 Před 4 lety +6

      agreed

    • @cyberpunkmirai7011
      @cyberpunkmirai7011 Před 4 lety +16

      So fucking true this is a constant on this CZcams channel. I dont lean either way it just pisses me off when I see people trying to push one trail of thought on people and clearly omitting information and being completely bias.

    • @mercandog507
      @mercandog507 Před 3 lety

      great explanation. even though its here for all to see, but its just your feels that are hurt 😢

  • @EM1Zay
    @EM1Zay Před rokem +7

    “Not talking about myself, I get crazy tail” 😂🤣😂

  • @thisisntallowed9560
    @thisisntallowed9560 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The problem is having sex/women isn't a fundamental right. While having food/shelter/clean water is a fundamental right. You can't compare the two.

  • @chestypants78
    @chestypants78 Před 3 lety +376

    Brooks' Peterson impressions @6:45 @8:06 @10:33 @12:59 @15:24 @17:11
    You're welcome.
    RIP Michael.

  • @Sadiq01
    @Sadiq01 Před 6 lety +59

    Isn't the lack of basic income, healthcare, housing even worse for children?

    • @danilovegap
      @danilovegap Před 6 lety +23

      Absolutely, he just want to fix the only problem his incels wealthy white followers have, sex.

    • @redlightmax
      @redlightmax Před 6 lety +3

      +Sadiq Ghazy Absolutely, 13:13 they mentioned that too.

    • @user-yw9ys3dz7x
      @user-yw9ys3dz7x Před 4 lety

      I think maybe the argument should be what the definition of basic, income, health care and housing is.
      There's government section 8 housing, and basic cheap food. Matter of fact I've never seen a poor person that wasn't fat. there's health programs for the poor but they're not well funded.
      Maybe we need to upgrade what "minimum" or "basic" actually is because believe it or not the "minimum" already exists.

    • @cnking27
      @cnking27 Před 4 lety

      All that matters is whether or not you can force women to have sex with you

    • @zanjata7513
      @zanjata7513 Před 4 lety

      Peterson is for basic income, healthcare and housing jeez... would you please stop taking things out of context and spread wrong things? Just imagine being him

  • @MrLtia1234
    @MrLtia1234 Před rokem +38

    Joe Rogan is just a very simple guy who asks obvious questions (but is also very gullable). He's said good things and stupid things, but is just genuine in what he says.
    Not surprising that he easily called out JP's nonsense, probably by mistake.

    • @jeremyhopkins577
      @jeremyhopkins577 Před rokem +11

      Yeah, people who suggest that he has some sinister motive are really missing the point. The problems stemming from his output are literally just what happens when an average dude with zero qualifications has a platform that people come to view as a legitimate source of information.

    • @occamsrazor1285
      @occamsrazor1285 Před rokem +2

      You're talkign about direct consequences. He was talking about indirect consequences. You ever consider the possibility that maybe you're just biased and mischaracterize Peterson's arguments by being purposefully dense?

    • @MrLtia1234
      @MrLtia1234 Před rokem +1

      @@occamsrazor1285 That's an impressively pretentious way to construct a vaccuous ad hom attack.

    • @occamsrazor1285
      @occamsrazor1285 Před rokem +1

      @@MrLtia1234 That's not an ad hominem attack. Your interpretation of what Peterson said was always the topic. If the discussion were the merit of his agrument and I'd responded how I did, that would be a different story, but you completely ignored the argument in favor of dismissal due to Peterson being non-sensical by your estimation. No proof, just an opinion.
      So, your opinion was always the topic. As such; have you considered the possibility that you misinterpretted his argument? Or at least feigning misinterpretation simply because you understand it but don't like it, but otherwise can't argue against it?
      And even if what I did WAS an ad hominem attack (which it was not), it would be justified because you're the one that opened the door.
      You should probably understand what a tool is and how it works, rather than just pulling it from your toolbag and throwing it at "the problem" in the hopes that it works. All too often people on social media of all kinds see the claim of a logical fallacy work and so they keep it in their back pocket to throw out every time someone disagrees with them with no understanding of what a logical fllacy is (or at least purposefully misapplying it in order to muddy the waters enough to ek out a victory).

    • @MrLtia1234
      @MrLtia1234 Před rokem +1

      @@occamsrazor1285 Not really. that was just the topic of conversation and you're response was vaccuous. Literally just 'You're being dense'.
      As you can see, it is possible to be concise about these things. Bye.

  • @TsTaurusTarot
    @TsTaurusTarot Před rokem +6

    More of this Joe please.

  • @post-centrist666
    @post-centrist666 Před 6 lety +245

    Is Jordan Peterson, Dave Rubin's life coach?

    • @squatch545
      @squatch545 Před 6 lety +15

      JP is Rubin's daddy.

    • @WikeddTung
      @WikeddTung Před 6 lety +8

      Insofar as they both are looking to ca$h in on the stupidity of right wing audiences even if it means saying shit they don't believe or care about...yes. Yes, he is.

    • @mirandansa
      @mirandansa Před 6 lety

      Life coach, or rather lie coach.

    • @post-centrist666
      @post-centrist666 Před 6 lety

      Miranda N Hey O!

    • @spoton3278
      @spoton3278 Před 6 lety +1

      I believe that would be the Koch Bros

  • @Lucasgonzaloanf
    @Lucasgonzaloanf Před 6 lety +495

    peterson:
    i don't like postmodernists... but i define what "truth" means
    I don't like redistribution... except of sexual partners
    others are against science and the Enlightenment... I believe in knowledge from ayahuasca trips
    I can't say I'm a christian... everything is god related, and jesus is everywhere, and archetypes
    I'm not sexist... but female is chaos and male is order, and here is my "Antidote to Chaos"
    -_-

    • @ChiRedWhiteBlue
      @ChiRedWhiteBlue Před 6 lety +49

      Lucas Gonzalo salazar Peterson: I can have my cake and eat it too

    • @martins458
      @martins458 Před 6 lety +17

      ChitownBlue exactly.

    • @djdarklyceum
      @djdarklyceum Před 6 lety +24

      That idiom basically sums all of this up. Sad.

    • @manniefresh3425
      @manniefresh3425 Před 6 lety +11

      I think it's more likely that you dont grasp the concepts he brings up

    • @Bubbles99718
      @Bubbles99718 Před 6 lety +71

      Mannie Fresh Sounds like a flat earthers defense.

  • @jordant.teeterson3100
    @jordant.teeterson3100 Před 2 lety +6

    Matt's Peterson impression is hilarious.

  • @dougbelford4565
    @dougbelford4565 Před rokem +13

    This is hysterical. Joe has done this with a number of people

  • @mikewayda
    @mikewayda Před 5 lety +253

    8:07 I nearly lost in when Michael did his Jordon Peterson impression. "I'm not talking about myself I get CRAZY tail" lmfao!!!

    • @dartanya2
      @dartanya2 Před 5 lety +3

      I love it!

    • @Michael_Paul585
      @Michael_Paul585 Před 4 lety +10

      Or when Jordan Peterson's actual comments are so absurd you think its Michael doing an impression .

    • @johnnastrom9400
      @johnnastrom9400 Před 4 lety

      @@Michael_Paul585 Translation, you can't debate Peterson so you resort to absurd generalizations. The bigotry on the left ...

    • @leonardocorredorgarcia8848
      @leonardocorredorgarcia8848 Před 3 lety +14

      @@johnnastrom9400 Is it bigotry to make a joke? I thought jp fanboys were free speech die hard, absolutists.

    • @obeb787
      @obeb787 Před 2 lety +7

      @@johnnastrom9400 Everytime Peterson debates someone knowledgeable he gets destroyed, what are you talking about? His arguments crumble.

  • @happyscooter228
    @happyscooter228 Před 3 lety +596

    Hearing of Michael Brooks, I had to watch this again to hear his laugh and his impression of JP. What a loss. Sorry for his friends at TMR and TYT.

    • @owie4070
      @owie4070 Před 3 lety +23

      He did a great impression of Sebastian Gorka as well. I'm going to really miss that guy.

    • @maya-amf3325
      @maya-amf3325 Před 3 lety +6

      whaaaaat? Omg I didn't realize he died this year! At 36 holy shit.

    • @icorrectly
      @icorrectly Před 3 lety +17

      TYT is trash

    • @marksoquetjr4693
      @marksoquetjr4693 Před 3 lety

      This one is a classic

    • @StreetHierarchy
      @StreetHierarchy Před 3 lety +15

      @@icorrectly SHUT the fuck up, bitch.

  • @brendacooper5729
    @brendacooper5729 Před rokem +1

    In other words every man should have the right to get laid, but the resulting children shouldn't have the right to food shelter and health care.

  • @tomcoleman2165
    @tomcoleman2165 Před rokem +1

    Can't believe I spent 18 minutes on Sam straw manning equality of outcome.

  • @arsenelupin123
    @arsenelupin123 Před 6 lety +198

    "Their moral responsibility to dissociate from the radicals"
    Jordan, look at your comment sections. Please, look at them.

    • @the44thchamber
      @the44thchamber Před 6 lety +20

      arsenelupin123 his comment sections are arguably the most intelligent regions of discourse on the entire CZcams platform

    • @the44thchamber
      @the44thchamber Před 6 lety +7

      arsenelupin123 it becomes very clear that the average individual within his fanbase is AT LEAST 5-10 points above the average IQ, with many being well above that even

    • @temifakeye4247
      @temifakeye4247 Před 5 lety +36

      Intelligent lol, your all blind followers who follow a self help guru verbatim without actually thinking for yourselves

    • @the44thchamber
      @the44thchamber Před 5 lety +16

      Your'e*, and we do think for ourselves, which is why we study intently the advice of a renowned psychologist with a classical education. According to your logic, anyone who seeks to help others is a "self-help guru", as if self-help is something unworthy of our attention. His followers, including myself, do think for themselves...what makes you think you can claim that? So tell me Temi, how is that YOU think for yourself and we don't? What are the parameters that separate us? I'll wait

    • @Mike-th8um
      @Mike-th8um Před 5 lety +11

      Temi Fakeye he's not a guru he is well renowned professor.

  • @dillsanders1046
    @dillsanders1046 Před 6 lety +188

    Jordan Peterson-Karl Marx of Punani and Ayn Rand of life.

  • @WhichDoctor1
    @WhichDoctor1 Před rokem +2

    all the power being concentrated in the hands of a few people destabilise society huh? Wow I never knew Jordan Peterson was so based

  • @RollcagerX
    @RollcagerX Před 2 lety +1

    I work 40 hours, you work 5 hours doing the same work, we both get $400, that’s equality of outcome.

  • @cubsfan8293
    @cubsfan8293 Před 6 lety +239

    incoming all the Jordan Peterson fans that are going to say that you don't understand what he's saying. not only do you have to watch the entire video but you also have to watch these two different 3 hour videos to understand what he means.

    • @12brichards
      @12brichards Před 6 lety +44

      Who would a thought that taking a short clip of someone might not represent their entire view? Derp.

    •  Před 6 lety +47

      Are you denying that Peterson got pretty well tripped up by the cage fighting expert?

    • @FalconFire13
      @FalconFire13 Před 6 lety +48

      Don't forget that we have to read Jung, Nietzsche and Dostoyevsky; or else we're just not sophisticated enough to understand simple logic !

    • @kevindonahue2251
      @kevindonahue2251 Před 6 lety +45

      But remember, you don't have to read a word of Marx or Adorno to shit all over marxism!

    • @ssjgold
      @ssjgold Před 6 lety +8

      I don't consider myself a fan of Peterson. But.. the definition he's using of forced monogomy doesn't come across in this video. So they're slightly mischaracterizing what he's trying (and failing) to say. But apart from that, yes. Sam et al are absolutely right

  • @justice5408
    @justice5408 Před 2 lety +19

    wow this video got swarmed with JP lobsters lmao

    • @austinman1712
      @austinman1712 Před 2 lety +4

      Right?! I was just thinking the same thing lol

    • @andresvelasco8163
      @andresvelasco8163 Před rokem

      Not really lol. Most of the comments here are going against Peterson

  • @1968beebee
    @1968beebee Před 2 lety +2

    You're way off with his meaning of equality of outcome.

  • @sidhuggins9387
    @sidhuggins9387 Před rokem +1

    A friend to everyone is a friend of no one.

  • @hareeshscifi13
    @hareeshscifi13 Před 4 lety +45

    "I'm not redistributing the weather."

  • @abandonednetwork9167
    @abandonednetwork9167 Před 4 lety +301

    This video: has 21k likes
    Also this video: has 21k dislikes

    • @camse7en
      @camse7en Před 4 lety +9

      Check it again.

    • @darkwolf4434
      @darkwolf4434 Před 3 lety +32

      @Action Jackson People generally don't like when people misrepresents people they disagree with while they are being worshipped by their followers for destroying those people with misrepresentations.

    • @Nathan-bv1rz
      @Nathan-bv1rz Před 3 lety +6

      @@darkwolf4434 finest observation.. misrepresentation uff rubbish & low level determination of something you can't grasp ..DESTROYING haha beyond belief you sounds dump.Use words properly to convey your low level thoughts to misrepresent someone who you can't matched at any level of intellectual.

    • @darkwolf4434
      @darkwolf4434 Před 3 lety +4

      @Proper Kvlt Oh, a Seder fan I assume? The argument does seem similar to those made by Seder.

    • @ElectricLadyland87
      @ElectricLadyland87 Před 3 lety +46

      Lots of lobsters out there.

  • @harrycooper5231
    @harrycooper5231 Před rokem

    A guy having lots of girlfriends is bad for children, but not giving children proper healthcare is good for children? SMH.

  • @leotimtom6637
    @leotimtom6637 Před rokem +3

    Peterson sounds like an intellectual for uneducated people.

    • @felicityc
      @felicityc Před rokem +2

      that's exactly what he is

  • @CaptWesStarwind
    @CaptWesStarwind Před 3 lety +64

    “Dr Peterson, what’s your favourite colour?”
    “Well that depends on what you mean by favourite. And it also depends on what you mean by colour. This is a very complex question... One must acknowledge the underlying verisimilitude that is irrevocably nested within a multi-layered metaphysical substrate which many people fundamentally conflate with their ideological presuppositions with no uncertain irregularity, causing the inadvertent dismissal of Jung's archetypal extrapolation of the quintessential axiomatic juxtaposition required to achieve Raskolnikov's magnitude of Neo-Marxist existential nihilism...”

    • @janeleguardi6851
      @janeleguardi6851 Před 3 lety +3

      proud to be first like 👍

    • @mdaddy775
      @mdaddy775 Před 3 lety +2

      We know his daughter likes Red!

    • @karmveer36
      @karmveer36 Před 3 lety +2

      Peterson makes more sense than this, C'mon! Haha.

    • @CaptWesStarwind
      @CaptWesStarwind Před 3 lety +15

      @@karmveer36 Well that depends on what you mean by sense and the word more.

    • @WesleyNiman
      @WesleyNiman Před 3 lety +7

      Well that depends on what you mean by Dr. Peterson..

  • @Martyjowa
    @Martyjowa Před 4 lety +46

    He doesn't understand what equality of outcome means. True equality of outcome would mean the same amount of women in prison as men, the same amount of women doing manual labor, the same amount of male nurses as female nurses. People provided with the same opportunities do not necessarily seek the same things. The goal is equal opportunity, not forced equality of outcome; and it would never happen without being forced.

    • @mrawesome2742
      @mrawesome2742 Před 4 lety +7

      Martyjowa sadly most feminists are too fucking stupid to understand this simple premise

    • @512Squared
      @512Squared Před 4 lety +1

      ProArcades false. Stupid comment though 👍🤣😎

    • @seankearney-mcmanus4486
      @seankearney-mcmanus4486 Před 4 lety +2

      Mark Phillips prove it wrong then, if you’re so sure. What’s your case, bitch? Speak up.

    • @macdeus2601
      @macdeus2601 Před 4 lety +6

      But "equality of outcome" is a strawman, not something the left actually advocates.
      As Seder explains in the video.
      (The left advocates making a certain set of basic social benefits something that everyone is entitled to unconditionally. That's not "equality of outcome"; it's just a question of what counts as a universal right and what counts as an earned privilege.)

    • @grubbybum3614
      @grubbybum3614 Před 4 lety +3

      @@macdeus2601 seder is an idiot, who keeps bringing up racism to quash any of Peterson's ideas.

  • @yandhi4202
    @yandhi4202 Před 2 lety +3

    "In this Majority Report clip, sucks when your Vulcan logic philosophical guru gets wrecked by the Fear Factor guy.
    " LMFAOOOOOO

  • @marius7120
    @marius7120 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Came here to widen my perspective, im 6:16 in and so far it's just been strawman arguments.

  • @craigbradford4850
    @craigbradford4850 Před 3 lety +66

    “It’s also possible that bitches be trifling!” We miss Michael Brooks

  • @sargonsblackgrandfather2072

    30 years on the left and the only time I’ve heard “equality of outcome” is from right wing carnival barkers.

    • @tunebros2
      @tunebros2 Před 6 lety +1

      First time I've heard the term too!

    • @staceyboomboom8031
      @staceyboomboom8031 Před 4 lety +1

      THANKYOU that's cos it's not a thing.

    • @sidarthur8706
      @sidarthur8706 Před 3 lety

      'to each according to his need' means the same thing, no?

    • @bearcudlybear
      @bearcudlybear Před 3 lety

      @@sidarthur8706 no, it much more approximately means equality of opportunity, a base line of decency we all adhere to. But Marx had a critique for equality of outcomes and recocgnized you could never reach true "equality" bc there will always be situational exemptions or disparities. JBP's analysis of marxist postmodernists (a term ive only ever heard used by him and his followers given the two terms individually are largely incompatible) is flat out wrong on just about every level.

    • @sidarthur8706
      @sidarthur8706 Před 3 lety +1

      Petah Runs the jewels what, marx meant that the way i'd means equality of opportunity? so he had no socialist welfare state in mind?

  • @laughingmask3118
    @laughingmask3118 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I came here to watch Joe Rogan talk to Jordan Peterson and you guys didn't even bother to link the interview, let alone won't shut up.

  • @AtamMardes
    @AtamMardes Před 3 měsíci

    "Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
    Voltaire

  • @LowStuff
    @LowStuff Před 6 lety +81

    I'm a lefty. Like in, I'm a leftwing member of a european social democrat party. I have NEVER seen anyone seriously asking or arguing for equality of outcome. Not in my party, not in people interested in social democracy or even in the political left in general.

    • @redlightmax
      @redlightmax Před 6 lety +16

      +LowStuff I guess "equality of outcome" is one of those strawmen that the right love to use, because it's difficult to persuade people that universal healthcare is evil.

    • @____________________519
      @____________________519 Před 6 lety +12

      Of course no one advocates for it by name, just for policies that call for it, like diversity quotas. A diversity quota requires an organization to select applicants based on inherent characteristics rather than competency. This sounds like equality of opportunity since competency is not an excluder for entry under this system, but once the quotas take effect the competency comes back into play, because now the overall performance of the applicants is diminished compared to applicants chosen only for competency. If the organisation is a corporation, ineffectual people often get promoted rather than fired because there's a lot of them and so they don't do any damage to the operational systems of the business or cost unemployment money, if the organisation is a school academic standards will decrease so the majority of students don't fail and ruin the orgs reputation. In both cases, no one is allowed to fail and everyone above average is being incentivized to mediocrity because their competence has no diversity value. This is not equality of opportunity, it's equality of outcome. The left argues for diversity all the time, just because they don't call it by name doesn't change what it is

    • @skyblazeeterno
      @skyblazeeterno Před 6 lety +8

      A Stranger In Paradise ....that's to counteract racism sexism and bigotry

    • @____________________519
      @____________________519 Před 6 lety +7

      skyblaze eterno and it does so by encouraging racism sexism and bigotry! Just ask the group of Asian students suing Harvard, or Denise Young Smith, former Apple diversity chief who pointed out that 12 white guys can be diverse and got fired for it. Positive racism is still racism.

    • @karencarpenter1210
      @karencarpenter1210 Před 6 lety +4

      You've never seen feminists calling for 50% representation of women in government?

  • @itzarevltn2432
    @itzarevltn2432 Před 4 lety +185

    So he says that Jordan Peterson is wrong for saying “equality of outcome” is treacherous, then goes on to describe things that he considers “equality of outcome”, then says they aren’t really outcomes they should start at birth. This is not “equality of outcome” then...he is describing something completely different.

    • @LPempty
      @LPempty Před 4 lety +6

      I think they’re trying to make the point that it’s no way an equal comparison.

    • @LPempty
      @LPempty Před 4 lety +34

      I see my 18 year old self in Jordan Peterson. Not to say that these guys know what they’re talking about. However, Jordan Peterson definitely just hears about an idea and then thinks he knows everything. Exactly the way I used to think when I was younger. This man is educated and has had a lot more life experience to be acting this way.

    • @itzarevltn2432
      @itzarevltn2432 Před 4 lety +7

      I see where you are coming from but like you said he is well-educated. He does hear about ideas and then studies them thoroughly (he does have slight implicit bias but no one doesn’t) and lectures on the topics. What specific topics do you think he is under-educated on and why?

    • @LPempty
      @LPempty Před 4 lety +9

      Curtis Beardsley lmao exactly that man read the communist manifesto which is like 32 pages long and thinks he knows everything.

    • @LPempty
      @LPempty Před 4 lety +14

      ItzARevltn I agree with you he is an educated man. However, that’s all he is. He has an education but that doesn’t necessarily make you smart or intelligent. Peterson is a perfect example of that. He refuses to read anything and only forms his opinions on Marxism, post modernism or anything else only based on his feelings and what other people say instead of doing the research for himself. Like an educated man should. He only reads books that support his opinion and those are the only books he cites. Which are usually very misrepresentative. You can be educated and a clown at the same time which is exactly what Peterson is. Since he is a clinical psychologist this behavior is unacceptable.

  • @sergemartin5731
    @sergemartin5731 Před 4 měsíci

    Nahhhh! Just make it an animated character and use the guy who does Elmo on Sesame Street as the voice actor. No use in paying a full actor to play Mr. PETERSON.😂😂😂

  • @ajax7277
    @ajax7277 Před 3 měsíci +1

    He’s saying that expecting that expecting that everyone should have equal access to healthcare, and equal care should be accorded to them regardless of social standing, is the same as being a Klan member.