The BEST Miniature Paint... Isn't Miniature Paint???
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
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0:00 Intro
1:03 What We Painting?
2:09 Wet Blended Base Coat
3:20 Powerful Pigments
5:32 Gettin' Yo Monies Worth
7:01 BUG PPL
10:18 Like a Cake
11:02 Why is Matte Paint Better?
13:04 NMM Blades
14:07 Isn't This Just Kimera Paint?
15:33 Final Reveal
16:03 GOOD FEELZ and Outtakes - Jak na to + styl
Hello Ninjon! Thanks for choosing GOLDEN. [Really, thanks!]
Thank you guys for making such an,amazing brand of paint from your high flow to your so flats we love your paints!!
Hey. I live in norwich and went to your main plant recently. I love the fluid acrylics. How do you think your soft body line would do for miniatures?
@@Belows682 - we don't refer to any of our acrylic color lines as "soft body", but if you're referring to our Fluid and SoFlat colors, you will find a lot of miniature painters recommend these colors - like this guy: czcams.com/video/iLkSQjG9oLg/video.html (there are others!)
@@GoldenPaints lmao been trying to figure out why this link isn't working, it's sending to the literal same video lol
My wife is a more traditional artist and we did some general color mixing palates with miniture paints versus artist acrylics. It basically converted me to using artist arcylics for miniture painting. She was stunned that miniture paints don't say what is in them usually and that the reason why I wasn't happy with the colors mixing was because there was too much white or black in the paints.
This is good to know - I was in the local arts/crafts store last night and saw that Golden has several different lines of their awesome acrylics now. I used to use them almost exclusively when I was painting canvases. Yesterday I saw their "new" high flow acrylics and wondered how good those would be for painting miniatures. I think I might have seen theses So Flats as well - I just didn't pay attention to them not knowing if they would be any good for miniatures, too. I am really new to the miniature painting hobby, so I didn't buy any of them yet - I wanted to stick with known miniature paints for a while before venturing out away from the norm. But I might be more inclined to venture out now based on this comment about mixing paints! Thanks!
Same here, I use Winsor and Newton artist grade acrylics, or any artist grade acrylic to be honest, and always the CMYKW palette with burnt amber/sienna
I spend a stupid amount of time admiring my paint bottles, their shape, colors, and names all placed in groups on the racks. It's just pleasing.
I am a canvas painter as well as a mini painter, and I can tell you that Golden is the cream of the crop as far as acrylics go. Not surprised you enjoy these ones.
But the cream will rise to the top, ooh yeah.
I have the same experience. I don't do canvas painting anymore, but when I did, I found that Golden Acrylics were the best of the best. I always used them as my primary brand of paints!
@@Hizoll Ooooohhhhh Yeah it does !
The bonus here is that Golden is a really awesome company if you look into how they're organized. It's great to support companies that support their employees.
When I learned that they're employee-owned, I decided that was a sign I had to buy all those pretty paints
Your intros are absolute gold.
I come for the hilarity and stay for the fun of watching you deal out knowledge in a way that feels like a conversation at a friend's table.
That first sentence has been my last 6 months in a nutshell. I've been trying a whole bunch of new ranges and new things.
Every mini CZcamsr - “Let me review ArmyPainter speed paints”
Jon - “Let me review an artist range that wet blends better”
Golden does a better job than most artist companies to communicate their paint qualities. They have a blog, Just Paint, where they deep dive into the science of acrylics. Worth a read even if you don't use their paint.
@@GoldenPaints my pleasure. I'm really glad you folk are getting some love in the mini-sphere with So Flat. Just too bad it didn't come out a few years earlier. I started down a limited-palette path with your 8-pack High Flow paints but they were too dang glossy for me. Then I tried to do limited palette with Vallejo but it was the worst: everything came out grey. When Kimera came out I never looked back. Even then they were so hard to source I would have switched to So Flat a couple of years ago. Now my FLGS stocks them.
Still, don't tell Kimera but I am just waiting for an excuse to switch.
@@TylerProvick We won't tell if you don't ;)
"These are artists paints, they don't count" ended myself on this one! I use those kinds of excuses all the time to justify what I'm doing haha
After you stated mixing the colors to create your own paints, I got an idea. Bet. Use those same paints to mix your own and paint a Space Wolf, a Flesh Tearer, and a Salamander (Or another chapter of you choosing). I think that would be proof of concept and help solidify your argument for using these acrylics over the other brands of paints. CHALLENGE ISSUED! 🤙
Do a 3 color challenge! Tons of fun to work from primary colors and white/black. (They're not colors). So much fun to mix all your colors.
Hey Ninjon, awesome video! I love Golden acrylic paints, but just a heads-up, Cadmium and Cobalt pigments are toxic (they're heavy metal pigments) so should be handled with some care. Figured that would be worth mentioning. That paint job looks AWESOME btw!
As far as I know, the pigments in "cadmium" acrylic yellows and reds aren't actually the cadmium pigment. They just use the name to describe the hue they have created. For instance, Prussian Blue, the pigment the paint color is named after, is insoluble in acrylic medium, so any Prussian Blue acrylic paint you have is actually another, very similarly colored, pigment or combination of pigments.
@@vincentcozza5813 - just a clarification, when we include the word "Hue" at the end of a color name it is an indication that the color is intended to replicate the color space of a particular pigment or color (ex. hazardous pigments and/or historical fugitive colors we are making with lightfast modern pigments). When you do not see "Hue" after a Cadmium or Cobalt color, the paint has actual Cadmium or Cobalt pigment. The common chemical name is usually on the label well to inform artists about what they're using. The Cadmium colors in SoFlat are all actual Concentrated Cadmium Zinc Sulfide pigments. The High Flow and Fluid color lines, by contrast, do not have any genuine Cadmium colors to discourage artist from spraying them. You should see "Hue" in the names within those color lines.
True heavy metal colors, for true heavy metal fans
@@GoldenPaints hi, we model painters would love if you use other lids like copper bottles... would be easier to get the colors on the pallets...
@@GoldenPaints so no more licking on the brush
I'm so happy you did this video. I've done a few tests with this line and I was amazed at how matte they were. I did have a bit of trouble getting them thin and smooth enough, though, so I didn't end up doing much. After watching this, I may just give them another shot!
Congrats Jon, it seems like you’re starting to find your video identity. Your spliced up goofs and gags went from a bundle at the end to a tasteful sprinkle throughout. I enjoy this evolution greatly. From here on I’d encourage you to experiment with editorial evolutions, shots compositions, camera placement, light fixtures. You’ve shown how creative you can be with models video materials thus far…don’t stop experimenting.
Hello and thank you for the presentation of this color range! I have also treated myself to some of these colors and am thrilled. Especially Pyrolle Red is one of the most opaque and vibrant reds I have ever worked with.
There is tremendous satisfaction in mixing your own colors (when you are successful at it!). I started doing it because I was cheap… I kept doing it because I realized I was getting better and better at it.
I recently started experimenting with these paints, and they are awesome. The Pyrrole Red is probably the best red I ever tried, and the Payne's Grey is a very nice "universal" shadow color (doesn't work with everything, but almost).
Just discovered this channel, really great stuff! Well presented and fun to watch, ended up watching way more videos than I intended. I think you have a really unique painting style, your color combinations are absolutely awesome, being able to come up with that stuff is a gift.
Just picked these up today to try out and you were 100% right they are so good! Knowing that I have so much paint to use makes it even better!
Your words are so Inspirational to stay motivated and to keep painting. Thank you!
Golden also sells some paints in dropper bottles designed for airbrushing. I bought a few of the fluorescent paints and they blew me away.
Golden and Liquitex are great. I come from a fine art background so I have been aware of them for a long time but it always freaks me out seeing hobby folks get suckered into buying stuff like Lahmian Medium.
Is there a better alternative for the Lahaina Medium?
@@PaulKim-lw3sy it's just acrylic medium. You can get acrylic medium in a variety of finishes from Liquitex or Golden for a tiny fraction of the price.
I've got easily 250 paints, full range of Kimera, pro acryl, majority of scale 75 and more. I need these.
Lord Of The Print is the Greatest of All Time! Their current subscription for Dec 2022 is incredible and it feels like they keep getting better. Normally i dont pay for 3D models cause there are good free ones online but I HIGHLY recommend them!
One of my go to paints when I was very heavily active in Warmachine was Folk Art's metallic black paint for my warjacks, weapons, and armor. Gives depth AND helps establish the heavy metal amror used in the game.
Absolutely love goldens from my time in art school and with all of my fine art projects I do, I’m glad they made this line to widen their breadth of users!! 🥳
I just got into mini painting and your videos are an incredible resource! Thank you sir!
Incredible! Painting this character as an orchid-like mantid was brilliant. It is a tribute to your skill you pulled it off so masterfully.
Awesome break from the status quo. Golden brand has been a low key favorite of mine for a while. I need to check out the specific line you cover in this video. Their high flow airbrush paints are a go to for a satin/low gloss and super vibrant/pigmented paints that spray beautifully.
Love the HFA as well! They sell the HFA medium too, so if you want to modify your mini paints to behave as such, or thin the opacity it works well. It also helps it run smoother through an airbrush as an alternative to the Golden Airbrush Medium.
Love artist's paints. I use a lot of golden, myself.
Golden Fluid acrylics are very intense and pure, great for mixing, maybe comparable to Kimera?. In their heavy body line, I've only tried Golden Artist Acrylic in titanium white, and WOW is it great.
As an extra tip for working with acrylics: you can buy mediums and mix them with the paint you have. For example, I cannot do any realism without adding a slow dry medium to my paint. (I prefer oils but space and money restrictions mean I can't use them right now)
You can probably buy any heavy body artist paint and then get a matte medium to mix with to get the same consistency as the Golden paint you have. Which is important since this line is less likely to have ALL pigments available but the standard line from them will. You might need to add a tad bit of water to get it flowing more or could also buy a flow medium to add in as well. Personally I just use water to get my acrylics to flow more though
legit! thanks! I'll chekc them out. I too find most miniature paints needlessly complex in color makeup and consistency. awesome find.
These look class, always good to see some new products in use. Great video dude
Great suggestion, I'll definitely try these out! To be fair, mixing paint for an army project, especially if it's an ongoing one, may not be the most efficient thing. I myself remember dreading paint mixing back in the early 2000s when I started doing this hobby stuff - you usually had only one or two brushfulls of mixed paint before it dried on your tile or piece of cardboard or old china plate. However, much of the complexity and problems of paint mixing in general is massively lessend when using a wet palette. On that thing, mixing the paint you've already got on there comes entirely naturally.
Likely gonna pick some of these up. Also ty for the motivation at the end. Will take any I can get. That paint job was really cool and interesting too.
I must say there is something about your voice talking about your process that is very relaxing. Keep up the work my man.
There I was... thinking I have my color addiction under control.... and then you drop this very interesting video. :) One important thing that I didn't catch you mentioning in the video is that some pigments - like PY35 that is used in the Cadmium Primrose - are toxic. So no brush licking! Might not be obvious to everyone.
I'm a big fan of Kimera Pure Pigments and Scale75 Artist Acrylics - so these look really good! Great video!
Yes most of these paints are toxic.
@@Dragonfire-tn2jg five cadmiums and one cobalt out of 40 colours isn't "most" but it's good to be aware of these things.
You also shouldn't be airbrushing any of the cadmiums or cobalts. The toxic pigments in acrylic paints are largely stopped from entering the bloodstream by the acrylic medium itself but all bets are off when inhaled.
@@nicholascaldwell6079 True, I should of said artist paints overall no matter the brand.
Insane knowledge just effortlessly distributed. My hat off to you, sir!
I absolutely love these paints for my "artsy fartsy stretched canvases" lol. I'm a canvas painter first, minis came later. I haven't used the so flat on minis yet. I normally use the Citadel contrast paints as my base layer, and then add details with my other golden acrylic paints. The so flat series is new, but I already love them. The fluorescents are awesome 👌
I started out painting on canvas a couple of years ago. I found these paints back in November of last year and bought one because of the richness of the color. I fell in love with it for adding effects to terrain pieces but balked at buying more because of the costs. Meanwhile spending ungodly amounts on little dropper bottles without thinking about per oz costs. Thank you John, you've made me finally realize that I had found a great product months ago without realizing their potential for my minis!
Hmm well, I am always glad for tips and tricks as well as products. Just knowing the options are their helps you try new stuff. It's like your dry brushing vid, I tried it a little then but now I've seen it and for me it is tool I use for texturing things that I didn't think of before.
Lots of the videos are like that, tools, tips and techniques. I like the format a lot.
Great video, I just got the Kimera paints and they make a world of difference for me. They also added tips and tricks for mixing with pure pigments, which made it less hard en scary to start with. Having full control over your paints really made it a lot easier to get a nice fineshed result. You saying that they are very similar makes me want to get these Golden paints.
watched this last night and went and purchased the black....Fantastic. Thanks for the research.
Hi Jon! Loved this vid and the other content you do! I've learned a lot and enjoyed along the way! Sincerely top notch stuff.
You might already know, but just in case and as a general PSA, I was looking at the Golden site earlier and saw that the SoFlat Titanium White was recently recalled for several failed batches in the 2 oz, 4 oz, and 16 oz. Looks like they were willing to replace product and or offer solutions from what I was reading, though that was back in December so I'm not sure what they are doing now.
Maybe they got the batches off of the shelves before you got yours, and you may already know, but figured I'd mention it just in case. Also worth noting for anyone else who may have some and didn't know. The Golden site has more info in case anyone needs as a general PSA.
Nice to see them willing to replace the product too. Good stuff. Really excited to try their stuff to try making my own paints, as well as their high flow acrylics.
Anywho, have a good one and enjoy some tendies!
Shoot, why does Jon always make me want to buy things.
Gladly. hours after video release amazon has 0 stock :D
😂 Misery loves company, I guess. Jon doesn't want to suffer alone.
@@necpwnz checked out these paints online after watching the video and Amazon sent me a lighting deal notice after. Not only was it the cheapest price I had found they said “last one left” so I pulled the trigger without much hesitation. To my surprise they arrived in a BLICK arts box with an invoice addressed to Amazon not me, and get this.. THEY PAID MORE FOR THE PAINTS THAN THEY SOLD THEM TO ME FOR!!! Lol get Rekt Amazon, get Rekt.
I've been curious about this line for a while. Thanks for doing all the hard work.
Great video, even better message at the end. Really good work!
I love your channel and appreciate the introduction to the So Flat Paint line. I've ordered a starter kit to try it out. I imagine I'll need to get a ton of dropper bottles so that I can mix my own. I didn't know about the color mixing issues with white or black but it makes sense.
Normally I love your painting (far better than anything I could do, I'm not a fan of the way this model turned out. It's the face or the helmet, or whatever that is. Those yellow highlights make it look like, well, like a painted model. I love the green on purple in the lower half ... just something about those yellow highlights. But I'm new to painting so maybe it's just me.
I swear between you and Miniac, you're ticking all the boxes for me. Fun personalities, great videos, and metal and synthwave music lol
Keep it up Jon 🤘
You can see how good this paint is when you feathered the sword blends.
Great review - I’ll be buying them.
Wow, great review of this paint range……I’m going to have to try some of them soon. Thanks again!
Putting a main topic of the video on the side I need to thank you Jon again for spreading the motivation and actually believing in people. I struggle a lot with just pushing myself to paint, but once I’m at my desk with brush in my hand it just work. Keep going man!
First time I've heard of these! Glad I caught this video. Thanks!
The paints are awesome, thank you for this Video, i have now the two starter Sets Pop and Zing and burnt Umber + burnt Siena.
I think this was one of your best videos yet. Thank you for sharing.
I ordered some of these after watching your vid and hands down these are the best paints I've used on minis. I've used Golden heavy body acrylics in the past but did not like the way they thinned out. These paints are amazeballz!!!
15:59 "Get to your painting desk...." I'm bookmarking this for inspiration.
I've recently been interested in getting into mini painting, and I've been wondering if there were any artist paints that would work well as mini paints. (Because honestly a lot of the mini paints seem like a rip off compared to artist paints.) I'm glad to learn that there is!
Any paint range I can pick up at my local art store instead of ordering it is really appreciated. Thanks for the video! Love the painted model too! Wild colors!
I've just started painting mini and i had a bunch of artist paint at home and that's what i started with. The result is pretty good, and same goes with the oil wash i just feel its better and nuln oil.
this looks amazing. I'm inspired to fix some similar models I painted to look more like this.
The color scheme is amazing! Great work
That's a great paint job. I was really surprised at how loose the initial wet blending was. Also, the high-energy marketing delivery of the information was fun.
I got my artist opus drybrush set last night, and those are gorgeous af. Can't wait to use them
Love the character you get into your videos Jon - keep doing what you're doing dude :)
Golden is great, and good people. They sponsored our paint and take at the Michigan GT a couple years ago. Sent us paints, wet pallets and brushes.
Superb tips and the paint range looks interesting 🙂. 8k printer looks awesome 💪
What a perfect video. The intro was spot on, and my only gripe was that these paints sounded like kimera, and you nailed that as well. You get all of the likes.
I’ve been looking for an artist grade acrylic to use for minis for awhile now… saw your video, ran out and bought their starter 6 pack and a Cobalt Teal. Very impressed, thanks for pointing them out!
That paint job is magical! It was a joy to watch.
Absolutely beautiful job.
I've been interested in these.
I have also been using a lot of Liquitex Heavy Bodies and holy crap. Amazing.
So tempted by these…. Love using artists acrylics so these will be fun to get a hold of and usw
Absolutely glorious vid, as always Ninjon and I’ve added this vid to my. Facebook account page. I also look forward to your videos thanks!
I love mixing colours (yes it’s spelt correctly) looking forward to seeing how they work with Kimera, thanks for the recommendation.
Great job Jon, keep up the great work!
Golden Fluid Acrylics has been my go to for some colors for years, and I do enjoy them.
I use Golden all the time for painting my Dwarven Forge terrain, they're absolutely great!
16:03 A simple but very helpful talk that I needed to hear. Thanks Jon!
Love this video. I have been using the same tubes of golden open (titanium white and carbon black) for years and I love it. The thick and creamy texture makes them wonderful for mixing colors. Open has longer dry times, giving more time to work with blending. So… safety lol. Do NOT lick your brush with artist colors. Mini companies try to use non toxic colors in their paint ranges however artist colors don’t care. I.E cadmium is a toxic metal. That being said cadmium red is such a beautiful color so it makes sense why they keep using it.
Golden High Flow and Fluids are my go to paints for brush and airbrush. These come in nice dropple bottles too, unlike the SoFlat line. Their mediums are awesome as well (airbrush, matt, ...).
Thank you for helping me step up my painting game still a noob but it’s getting much better
Love your content, you seem like you’re always searching for different ways to paint.
I’d love you see you do a comparison paint job of brushes, basic cheap starter brushes from a hobby shop/craft store to the more pro ones you are using. Might be interesting to see how a cheaper brush is actually costing more in the long run.🤷♂️
I am currently loving golden's fluid acrylics and had wondered about the soflat range, so Thank You for reviewing it. I'll be getting some of these. The occasional gloss finish being one of the few gripes I've had with the fluid acrylics. Before I began using them I thought mixing colours would be a hassle but it has become one of my favourite parts of the process. I feel like I am exploring and playing instead of what feels sometimes like painting by numbers. Y'all's mileage may vary.
the Golden Artist Colors high flow acrylics are nice too. great consistency straight from the bottle.
This topic was impeccably timely. I was on my way out to buy a bunch of Vallejo paints at my local hobby shoppe and wanted to check a few things online first. I saw this video in my feed and watched it before I left. I scratched the miniature paints from my list and hoped for the best at a few art stores close by. I came home with Cad Red Light, Pyrrole Red, Phthalo Blue, Bismuth Vanadate Yellow and one that I would have absolutely passed over - Yellow Green. Hoping to do them justice. Thanks for this tip.
Great video! I will have to try these paints.
Looks amazing 🤩 thanks for the lesson!
I've used a bunch of the soflat's for miniature painting for about 6 months. Payne's Grey is one of my favorite dark colors in the line, So is their Turquoise. The white is also far superior than just about any miniature paint line white.
You can never own enough paint, I love the golden range of paints and I covet the bottles I have, might have to check out the flat range…my ninjon Artus opus texture pallets also came today so time to give them a go….thank for the video.
I like the matt paints but sometimes super matt paint leave the model feeling chalky even though its not. when I get low on my Pro Acryl I might give some of these a try.
You can always go back over it with a semi-satin finish to soften the chalkiness
Picked up the core set + burnt umber and I have to say that burnt umber is beautiful and will be my base coat for leather moving forward (formerly Rhinox Hide)
Really cool video. I might check out this paint.
Quite possibly my favorite paint job you've done
I've been using some of my Golden Fluids that I've just had around and they work great for my minis.
Hmm they look interesting, so worth a try. Love the painting of the model.
I may have a similar affliction. I bought dioxezine purple it’s amazing love your videos Thank you for the content
Jeeeezuz, that's the best quick NMM I've EVER seen.
This is great timing as my collection of Reaper paints are finally starting to run out. I've been trying to decide what to get next and I think I'll give this stuff a shot and see what happens.
We're going to add these to our collection. They look like a great find!
I started using Golden products back in art school and never looked back. In 1980, Golden started making paints in his family barn in NY, and as of 2021 his company is 100% employee owned. Their focus is on making affordable high quality artist paints with archival quality. This means that the pigments will not change or diminish over a set period of time. They are a fantastic company with great customer service and I’m happy you are finding ways to incorporate their products in our hobby! ♥️ (I do not work for them- I just love their paint!)
Worth mentioning Golden: High Flow Acrylics, been using their Titanium white for miniature painting for a while, because it is very close in function to an acrylic ink and in white that means good enough coverage for blending and edge highlighting, without chalky results, also works well through an airbrush.
Be careful with artist grade paints through an airbrush. They often (usually) contain heavy metals which can be fairly toxic, more so when aerosolized. Most miniature-specific paints are blended using cheaper pigments, so it is less of an issue with those.
Their other HIGH FLOW colors are great too. I have red, black, dark green , yellow and blue.
@@fleetadmiralmatteo4123 Good advice but you can check these and they are marked: Health & Safety - There are currently no known health hazards with associated with anticipated use. Underneath is the recommendation for using a respirator when spraying : )