Nice review and demonstration, I think you explained well in an emergency, and you have no axe or saw, this knife holds up as well as any. The Bohler- Uddeholm 20C steel Mora uses for their carbon knives is much like 1095 but a cleaner alloy than most 1095's, very high quality. That along with Mora's heat treat is a steal for the price of a Mora knife. You explained it very well in the video the features of this knife longer wider blade stock, and the fact that the general butcher knife design was what was used by most of the early trappers and mountain men, and it seemed to serve them well from hunting and skinning, making snares, self defense, patch cutting, cleaning a fish, and yes chopping and gathering wood for a fire. They didn't carry an array of knives and tools so this design had to do it all and it did. NIce job and great information thanks Dave.
Hey Dave, that looks like a good all around woods knife. I Got my old 11" bowie i had made by a blacksmith in Tx and my old USMC ka-bar both are awesome blades. After your video i would add this Mora knife to my collection. I have several 511 Mora's in PSK go bag kits I gave to friends and family. I enjoy all the great work and info you and your pathfinder school provide. Semper Fi brother.
Mora makes awesome knives. They're well worth the small investment to acquire several. I find that both their carbon and stainless steel knives are excellent tools.
I have really enjoyed using this knife. Shame its going out of production this year. Hopefully they will improve on the design and release something similiar later on. It had alot going for it but poor sheath design, and the fact that its not full tang prevented it from becoming a commercial success I guess. Give me this exact knife in a full tang construction with a decent sheath and I'll gladly pay. You go tell em' Dave!
Thanx Dave, great review of what seems to be a great knife, recently I've been trying out a new carry for me, a 1 knife carry, usually I've been carrying a 3knife carry, that really worked out well for me, and on some serious trips into the wilderness, I even went to a 4knife carry, extreme, perhaps, but I luv using my knives, but like I said, I'm trying new carry systems, this Mora Bushcraft knife seems like a winner for me, your right, a longer blade is better, I've used my Bravo 1, great knife, works great, but a little too short at times, so I went into 6"er's, so far my Swamp Rat Rodent 7 seems to hit the spot, it's simply a great knife, a little heavy, but all you need type of knife, but now this video, I liked it, and I'm trying this one out, Thanx.
Caution: May 3rd UPDATE by Rocky Mountain Bushcraft (RMB). While field testing the Mora Bushcraft Pathfinder by chopping through a small dead pine branch a small section of the edge chipped. RMB said: “We informed Mora of this issue, they were very concerned, and quickly sent us a newer production sample of the Pathfinder to test.” and “I took the new test sample back out into the field and chopped some dead pine branches with it. On the 3rd test branch, the same issue appeared, except that instead of a chip, the edge rolled on the lower section of the blade.” The test was stopped and RMB concluded that Mora could be reaching too far into the US “survival knife” market? With their test knives failing the tester thinks the Scandinavian edge while great for carving with the smaller Moras is not ready for the physics of chopping with a large blade. - Great as a splitter and wood carving knife. - Fail as a Survival Blade.
This was on the wilderness outfitters channel guys. This is the self reliance outfitters channel lol so yeah, it's a repeat but it's new to this channel.
Hey Dave! I'm not sure if you are aware of this or not, but you do realize that you don't NEED to have a long knife to split more significant wood right? Here are two vids of this guy splitting good sized logs with just an ESEE izula: 1. Splitting wood with a small knife - ESEE Izula 2. ESEE Izula - batoning & splitting wood Hope you had a good Easter Dave! Be well my friend.
Hey Dave I was curious about what your current opinion on this knife is today in 2018. Haven’t heard anything else or seen this knife in any of your other videos.
Ive. Got the bushcraft black. Amazing knife. But up in Canada I think you're going to get a better bang for your buck with a KA-BAR BK-7. 7 inch blade. Full tang and it's cheap. But only because the sheath and handle scales are crap. But that's the thing you get more money and you can turn a 85-110$ knife in to a 200$ knife.
Ya... The original Ka-bar with the rat tail is no where near as strong as my bk-7. I don't think you know what you're talking about. Not to mention, do you know how bushcraft knives are designed? Drop point. Not clip point. And definitely not with a swage because it chews up a baton when you try to do such. And most importantly to maintain strength.
Daniel Isabelle That knife actually exists and its been in production for well over 20 years. I believe its called "Mora Classic 3" since they merge of KJ/Frosts into the "Morakniv" company. The blade is 6" and it costs around €17-20 here in Sweden
Terrible technique. Keep the blade horizontally throughout the split no matter how hard the wood is. If you can't, it's not in the blades capability......Thanks for sharing your thoughts and your opinions with me, I appreciate it sir.
do we even want to have a 6.5 inch blade with a Scandinavian grind, especially not full tang? i enjoy their bushcraft black, but i don't baton more than wrist size pieces and don't do it often. scandi grinds i thought were best used for small processing and carving but are too fragile and edge for reasonable hard wood. I think i'd rather just carry an Esee 6 or BK7 to accompany my mora bushcraft if not taking a small axe. thanks for the review though. Love your stuff man!
I like it. I've been using Mora knives for over 25 years and I really like this one alot. I had a couple of large Mora knives over the years and I've liked them aswell. Just like those knives this isnt your average thick spined "prybar-with-an-edge" survivalknife. This one is still light and fast and there really isnt alot of that around these days. That either appeals to you or it doesnt but forcing this to be something its not by splitting logs with it just to make it fit your frame of reference for long blades just isnt fair. This isnt a fällkniven A1, Condor Dundee or Becker by any stretch. Sadly, this one is going out of production.
@@TheKimjoh560 It's still being sold. Or it went out of production and in again. The Mora 731/ 711/ 748Mg on the other hand are discontinued. It had to do with the mall/machine being at its end. And so the production of it stopped.
@@TheKimjoh560 from Thomas Erikson , Product specialist at Morakniv; "they have all been recently taken out of production and are all sold out from our side. They might however still be available at our distributors and retailers but that is out of our control It is an old design from the early 1980´s and the moulding tools was just fitting one old moulding machine that broke down, so instead of making new tools for newer machines these models was delisted and taken out of production. Sad but true."
I'm watching this video because I bought this knife as a Christmas present for my girlfriend last year. I'm really glad that she cheated on me because now it's my knife.
If a person uses the Pathfinder like a life should be used, it will give them a lifetime of use.. I like this review because it shows that the Pathfinder Mora "failed" videos are not the knifes fault but the users fault. I can make a beautiful feather stick and baton a log with a butter knife, that doesn't make the butter knife a good knife.
What looks wrong about it? The ergonomic grip of the Mora knives are really unparalleled even among "high end" or expensive knives. And not just the ergonomics, the materials used for the handle are extremely durable and have some of the best grip you can ever want in a knife. The blade is high quality steel with a Scandinavian type grind, which is really one of the most, if not the most preferred grind for bushcraft and survival tasks. So all of that having been said, and seeing the abuse that a cheap knife like this can take, what looks wrong?
Bad knife, bad knife! Take that and that and that! Take your punishment like a man! What kind of ironwood are you using for breaking that knife and handle ?! If I needed to chop up that wood, I wouldn't. I would just stick the log into the fire, and keep pushing it into the fire, burning up the end, .... Or just go and get the chain saw and dull the blade on it instead. I'd get some soft wood for feather sticking and fire material. for the initial fire, then the hardwoods for higher and longer heat-producing campfire. This is almost as shocking as seeing European bushcrafting videos using their knives as hatchets/machetes/axes on tree limbs, then stab a tree trunk, or stick the blade in the ground. Ouch! A knife is a knife is a knife, not a splitting maul. Or were you making a point about the durability of the knife?
John Lord he was just making a point that's why he said don't do it unless you absolutely have to. I am on your side for the most part. Read Horace Kepharts book. Even he suggests a small 4-5" fixed blade knife and a hatchet or better yet small tomahawk. Hawk/hatchet for firewood not a knife.
Dave has so much knowledge. It’s great reading his books and the details in them, especially for me on knives.
Nice review and demonstration, I think you explained well in an emergency, and you have no axe or saw, this knife holds up as well as any. The Bohler- Uddeholm 20C steel Mora uses for their carbon knives is much like 1095 but a cleaner alloy than most 1095's, very high quality. That along with Mora's heat treat is a steal for the price of a Mora knife.
You explained it very well in the video the features of this knife longer wider blade stock, and the fact that the general butcher knife design was what was used by most of the early trappers and mountain men, and it seemed to serve them well from hunting and skinning, making snares, self defense, patch cutting, cleaning a fish, and yes chopping and gathering wood for a fire. They didn't carry an array of knives and tools so this design had to do it all and it did.
NIce job and great information thanks Dave.
As always when you test tools you don't mess around. Thanks Dave for making things better for our bushraft needs.
By far that's the craziest batoning vid I've see yet. Thanks Dave for always bringing great reviews & demos.
Hey Dave, that looks like a good all around woods knife. I Got my old 11" bowie i had made by a blacksmith in Tx and my old USMC ka-bar both are awesome blades. After your video i would add this Mora knife to my collection. I have several 511 Mora's in PSK go bag kits I gave to friends and family. I enjoy all the great work and info you and your pathfinder school provide. Semper Fi brother.
Great to see someone doing a demo with challenging pieces of wood
Mora makes awesome knives. They're well worth the small investment to acquire several. I find that both their carbon and stainless steel knives are excellent tools.
Those Swedes sure know their knives!
Best beating of a Knife I've seen, it stood up to everything you threw at it well. Thanks for the Great demo Peace :-)
I have really enjoyed using this knife. Shame its going out of production this year. Hopefully they will improve on the design and release something similiar later on. It had alot going for it but poor sheath design, and the fact that its not full tang prevented it from becoming a commercial success I guess. Give me this exact knife in a full tang construction with a decent sheath and I'll gladly pay. You go tell em' Dave!
Thanx Dave, great review of what seems to be a great knife, recently I've been trying out a new carry for me, a 1 knife carry, usually I've been carrying a 3knife carry, that really worked out well for me, and on some serious trips into the wilderness, I even went to a 4knife carry, extreme, perhaps, but I luv using my knives, but like I said, I'm trying new carry systems, this Mora Bushcraft knife seems like a winner for me, your right, a longer blade is better, I've used my Bravo 1, great knife, works great, but a little too short at times, so I went into 6"er's, so far my Swamp Rat Rodent 7 seems to hit the spot, it's simply a great knife, a little heavy, but all you need type of knife, but now this video, I liked it, and I'm trying this one out, Thanx.
I literally bought this knife based on this video alone...
Awesome knife. She does it all well. Thanks.
Great video, thanks
What will break during batoning is a Cold Steel ATC stainless. Ask me how I know.
Caution: May 3rd UPDATE by Rocky Mountain Bushcraft (RMB).
While field testing the Mora Bushcraft Pathfinder by chopping through a small dead pine branch a small section of the edge chipped.
RMB said:
“We informed Mora of this issue, they were very concerned, and quickly sent us a newer production sample of the Pathfinder to test.”
and
“I took the new test sample back out into the field and chopped some dead pine branches with it. On the 3rd test branch, the same issue appeared, except that instead of a chip, the edge rolled on the lower section of the blade.”
The test was stopped and RMB concluded that Mora could be reaching too far into the US “survival knife” market? With their test knives failing the tester thinks the Scandinavian edge while great for carving with the smaller Moras is not ready for the physics of chopping with a large blade.
- Great as a splitter and wood carving knife.
- Fail as a Survival Blade.
This was on the wilderness outfitters channel guys. This is the self reliance outfitters channel lol so yeah, it's a repeat but it's new to this channel.
Great review Dave 👍
seems like a great knife
Hey Dave! I'm not sure if you are aware of this or not, but you do realize that you don't NEED to have a long knife to split more significant wood right? Here are two vids of this guy splitting good sized logs with just an ESEE izula:
1. Splitting wood with a small knife - ESEE Izula
2. ESEE Izula - batoning & splitting wood
Hope you had a good Easter Dave! Be well my friend.
Make a longer Garberg? Garberg XL.
This one is ok but mixed reviews on tests.
Hey Dave I was curious about what your current opinion on this knife is today in 2018. Haven’t heard anything else or seen this knife in any of your other videos.
Like it and I bet the price is right as well ;)-
Please announce when they are available at your Pathfinder online store.
I think this knife is VERY underestimated by the CZcams knife snobs.
Try doing that with a Buck 119
Great test. You pay for what you get. Thx Dave.
Ive. Got the bushcraft black. Amazing knife. But up in Canada I think you're going to get a better bang for your buck with a KA-BAR BK-7. 7 inch blade. Full tang and it's cheap. But only because the sheath and handle scales are crap. But that's the thing you get more money and you can turn a 85-110$ knife in to a 200$ knife.
Ya...
The original Ka-bar with the rat tail is no where near as strong as my bk-7. I don't think you know what you're talking about. Not to mention, do you know how bushcraft knives are designed? Drop point. Not clip point. And definitely not with a swage because it chews up a baton when you try to do such. And most importantly to maintain strength.
I prefer PKS Scorpion XL
I'm kind of torn between the Pathfinder trade knife and this new Mora bushcraft pathfinder. Which one would reccomend.
Very good, Thank you very much
Excellent review! What kind of rock were you using at the end for the final sparks?
@Closed He was talking about the piece of flint he was using to strike the spine of the knife to create sparks to ignite the char cloth
I’ve wondered did they name this knife in honor of your school?
Hope you don't need that knive in an emergency demo or not. .. that's what axes are made for
I think the Esee Knives 5 would be a good option to, just need to remove the coating.
It a re-post posted about 1 month ago but still good video
there is a video with a same test, where the knife snaps..
What kind of Ferro rod fire starter are you using in the video?
But if. I was gonna be in woods a long time, I would just as soon die with that good blade you demo'd.
One word kept coming to mind "axe" lol
A little pricey for a mora but looks very sturdy
That looks like a long knife can you imagine if they added a few more inches on a mora classic lol
Daniel Isabelle That knife actually exists and its been in production for well over 20 years. I believe its called "Mora Classic 3" since they merge of KJ/Frosts into the "Morakniv" company. The blade is 6" and it costs around €17-20 here in Sweden
"... gotta have something to beat on besides my hand" (2:04) - what? - is Dave going soft????....
What firesteel where you using
Hi, I'd like to ask: is the Pathfinder as strong as the Garberg in hard use in general and in batoning in particular?
Nice, does the job but how much?
www.thepathfinderstore.com/mora-bushcraft-pathfinder/
Looks like a scandi Sog seal team
Is this a repeat?
Terrible technique. Keep the blade horizontally throughout the split no matter how hard the wood is. If you can't, it's not in the blades capability......Thanks for sharing your thoughts and your opinions with me, I appreciate it sir.
do we even want to have a 6.5 inch blade with a Scandinavian grind, especially not full tang? i enjoy their bushcraft black, but i don't baton more than wrist size pieces and don't do it often. scandi grinds i thought were best used for small processing and carving but are too fragile and edge for reasonable hard wood. I think i'd rather just carry an Esee 6 or BK7 to accompany my mora bushcraft if not taking a small axe. thanks for the review though. Love your stuff man!
I like it. I've been using Mora knives for over 25 years and I really like this one alot. I had a couple of large Mora knives over the years and I've liked them aswell. Just like those knives this isnt your average thick spined "prybar-with-an-edge" survivalknife. This one is still light and fast and there really isnt alot of that around these days. That either appeals to you or it doesnt but forcing this to be something its not by splitting logs with it just to make it fit your frame of reference for long blades just isnt fair. This isnt a fällkniven A1, Condor Dundee or Becker by any stretch. Sadly, this one is going out of production.
@@TheKimjoh560
It's still being sold.
Or it went out of production and in again.
The Mora 731/ 711/ 748Mg on the other hand are discontinued.
It had to do with the mall/machine being at its end. And so the production of it stopped.
@@Ve-suvius The 711 is actually still in production. It's rebranded and sold by a Swedish company called Biltema.
@@TheKimjoh560
from Thomas Erikson , Product specialist at Morakniv;
"they have all been recently taken out of production and are all sold out from our side. They might however still be available at our distributors and retailers but that is out of our control
It is an old design from the early 1980´s and the moulding tools was just fitting one old moulding machine that broke down, so instead of making new tools for newer machines these models was delisted and taken out of production. Sad but true."
@@Ve-suvius All I can tell you is they've been sold out and restocked multiple times in the last couple of years.
Aaai like my SOGfrom ski, japan. $75 at a pawn shop.
I'm watching this video because I bought this knife as a Christmas present for my girlfriend last year. I'm really glad that she cheated on me because now it's my knife.
Watch how the blade fails doing what you did but with a smaller trunk and barely starting the work. czcams.com/video/dwUWuyuRgRk/video.html
If a person uses the Pathfinder like a life should be used, it will give them a lifetime of use.. I like this review because it shows that the Pathfinder Mora "failed" videos are not the knifes fault but the users fault. I can make a beautiful feather stick and baton a log with a butter knife, that doesn't make the butter knife a good knife.
i find that hard to believe.
batoning is, in my opinion, just complete nonsense that spreads like a plague of damage to knives otherwise a nice video
I'm not sure I'd spend $20 for that thing... looks all wrong must feel all wrong too... IMO
What looks wrong about it? The ergonomic grip of the Mora knives are really unparalleled even among "high end" or expensive knives. And not just the ergonomics, the materials used for the handle are extremely durable and have some of the best grip you can ever want in a knife.
The blade is high quality steel with a Scandinavian type grind, which is really one of the most, if not the most preferred grind for bushcraft and survival tasks.
So all of that having been said, and seeing the abuse that a cheap knife like this can take, what looks wrong?
***** Yeah... that's exactly what i wanted to say !!! Ah... that dang Tequlia with a Beer chaser... get me every time !!!
Bad knife, bad knife! Take that and that and that! Take your punishment like a man!
What kind of ironwood are you using for breaking that knife and handle ?! If I needed to chop up that wood, I wouldn't. I would just stick the log into the fire, and keep pushing it into the fire, burning up the end, .... Or just go and get the chain saw and dull the blade on it instead.
I'd get some soft wood for feather sticking and fire material. for the initial fire, then the hardwoods for higher and longer heat-producing campfire.
This is almost as shocking as seeing European bushcrafting videos using their knives as hatchets/machetes/axes on tree limbs, then stab a tree trunk, or stick the blade in the ground. Ouch! A knife is a knife is a knife, not a splitting maul.
Or were you making a point about the durability of the knife?
John Lord he was just making a point that's why he said don't do it unless you absolutely have to. I am on your side for the most part. Read Horace Kepharts book. Even he suggests a small 4-5" fixed blade knife and a hatchet or better yet small tomahawk. Hawk/hatchet for firewood not a knife.
Mmmmnnnnnnoooooo, way to big and would be almost impossible to conceal if you had to, stick with the bushcraft black, Dave.