Ivan Lendl vs McEnroe - US Open 1987
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Although I realize it's unpopular, Ivan Lendl was and always will be my favorite tennis player.
Me too! I remember when i was a kid, watching Rolland Garros, my parents and sister always stood against him, i was the only one to love him and his deadly technique. You have to realize that Lendl is ranked #3 all time. (number of weeks beeing ranked 1st ATP.) So, one of the greatest tennis player ever.
Lendl played in 8 straight US open finals, a record probably never to be broken. Amazing consistency.
Jerry L His major deficiency was obviously never winning Wimbledon. He did manage two finals there. He even skipped the French during his prime in the hopes of winning the W crown , which cost him a possible additional slam title
@John Smith See Henman in his 2001 wimbledon with Ivanisevic? This was his best chance to reach a final many people believe
If there is a Henman Hill, why not a Lendl Lane? I think people did underappreciate Lendl at times. Maybe if lendl was a local, Wimbledon would have accepted and valued him more and maybe there would have been something within the Wimbledon grounds named after the great Ivan Lendl.
I was always a McEnroe fan - notwithstanding the temper tantrums. He became a thoughtful, insightful, and highly agreeable commentator afterwards. Lendl, to my mind, is probably the greatest male player of the 80s.
Ivan Lendl - father of the modern Tennis.
When Lendl played like this he was extraordinary. The topspin lob was wicked, and his passing shots were brilliant.
This day was the second anniversary of Lendl being No. 1, I guess it didn't matter to him who the opponent was. In this match, Lendl played the lob with such deadly accuracy that one reporter referred to it as an "overhead passing shot". Needless to say that Mac didn't stand a chance.
Well said
Chang got him on it in '90 at USO too. Just barely.
Lendl is one of my favorite champions ever. I met him at the WCT and he was a complete gentleman.
Lendl was the favorite to win the US Open that year. This match showed he was the heavy heavy favorite to win it. He was painting the lines in this match.
Pretty remarkable that between 1985-1987, Lendl defeated McEnroe twice, Connors twice, Edberg, and Wilander, and lost a total of one set in those 5 matches.
Gregory Mathews
To be fair Connors was old, and McEnroe lacked commitment after 1985.
That’s six matches, actually.
@@lzv6990 Connors was not affected by age. He would have been still top 10. As for McEnroe, he just couldn't keep up with Lendl.
@@alanchong7513 lol..dude...Connors and mac weren't close to their prime then ..
Lendl often defeated Mac also in early eighties, with seven consecutive wins between 1981 and 1982.
Coldest respectful handshake ever
The last 2serves of the 5th game of the 3rd set looks like the sweetest spot where confidence reigns supreme in Lendl's head. 2 first services like bombs.
The duel around 21:50 is one of my all time favorites, it is AMAZING! Mcenroe wins it but somehow it is the end of the match, as it becomes clear that Mcenroe needs to be so very very good to win points against Lendl that he cant be that consistent in the long run. Mcenroe 84 perhaps but not in 87. Most entertaining match though.
Point of the match for sure.
Amazing shot!
Mac is out of it in this game. Mentally and spiritually he's not in it. Something's wrong.
When Lendl got in shape, he really exposed the old school tennis greats like McEnroe and Connors. Had he gotten that way 2 years prior, I'm convinced Lendl would have won Wimbledon, and Connors and McEnroe wouldn't be known for the success they are now known for. Lendl would have owned 1982-4. Most of the other players on tour modeled their game after Lendl -- peak strength and conditioning and the game of tennis has been like that ever since.
Lendl said Mac was the only person who could put a volley away off of his shoelaces.
And Borg said he(Mcenroe) had the best wrists ever.
Edberg could do it
@@TheColourwonders True. Rafter has his minute too.
@@KingCast65 yes Rafter with back to back US Open wins in 1997, 98 and runner up at Wimbledon with Sampras and Ivanisevic taking the gold.
when you have great hands like McEnroe did and your racket strung at a trampoline 45pounds, it is possible.
Those were the matches we as kids used to watch late night on our 2x3inch sized black and white TV set
Lendl was Mac's greatest rival, more than Borg. Lendl puts another nail in Mac's slam aspirations.
All Ivan lacked was Wimbledon. That fkng Pat Cash.
Peak cash always going to win on grass
Lendl had McEnroe's number by this stage. The 1985US Open final was the turning point. Lendl never looked back and sped away.
Alan Chong ..yep..mcenroe wasn't the same player and the dawn of the new rackets made the power guys steamroll him
Yup. It was a new era. I think Mac managed to beat him a couple of times but that's it. Mac losing his focus at RG in '84 really altered the course of tennis history. He would have won 8 GS Titles and probably more because that's when Lendl found his groove.
Christopher King ..yes and without playing in the Australian...give him 3 titles there and that is 11 by 25 but he was a shell of himself after 25
Well with his game alone just being a 1/4 step off will kill you. Not to mention his emotional struggles.
I don't know, even after McEnroe gave away that '84 French title, Lendl still didn't win another grand slam until the US Open in '85, almost a year and a half later. McEnroe steamrolled his way to the Wimbledon and US Open titles in '84 even after that crushing loss at the French and dominated the entire year. Lendl was still Lendl, just finally with a Grand Slam title to his name. Going the next 5 majors without winning one is not really finding his groove.
McEnroe was never the same after he took the time off. He had a brilliant career but I always wondered what could’ve been. What if he had fully mentally and physically dedicated to the game. He just had such natural talent
Lendl played a great match. I thought the commentators were a little confused when they stated that Lendl was an underdog. You may not be liked by the crowd, but that doesn't mean you're the lesser player.
Lendl May hv won but Max wins every time on style . Mac had such a beautiful game. Lendl was industrial.
This was Lendl at his peak, reaching a never before seen level of tennis when he destroyed Wilander in 3 sets in the final of the masters in NY later that year. Wilander would rise is game to win 3 gran slams the year after.
" Never before seen level of tennis", really? It was only three years earlier that McEnroe produced perhaps the greatest tennis ever seen in his 6-1, 6-1, 6-2 demolition of Jimmy Connors in the 1984 Wimbledon final.
@@martydav9475 Sorry, I might have made an over statement when saying what I said . I was a big fan of Lendl and the setting of the masters that year with a blue tennis court specific for singles gave the impression that they were almost playing ping pong instead of tennis with astonishing coverage of the court by both players. although Wilander found him self miles away from the ball too often. Lendl was just untouchable that day.
Lendl at the very peak of his career! Indeed, one of the fathers of modern tennis. But, John McEnroe, even after his extended sabbatical, clearly the most interesting and gifted player of this great era.. Here he just showed samples of his comeback which culminated in 1989.. A very close match later in 1987, then his victory over Ivan in 1988 in Michelin event. Worth to remember
Dimitrios Katsochis e
He hit patsy ground shots that players like Lendl and latter Agassi and Sampras swatted away like flies. And if you consider whining like a baby interesting, then, yeah, ok.
Lawrence Garrison
His "patsy ground shots" were spectacular when he was at his best. Nobody ever took the ball so early and dictated play with so little effort.
And, no, I am not a fan. I called him McBuffoon more than once for being a whiny brat and a cheat but he was nevertheless a unique talent.
@@lawrencegarrison3792 Hahaha. Well said, Lawrence! It is true, your observation!
Certainement la meilleure année de Lendl qui aura mis du temps pour atteindre sa plénitude depuis la finale RG perdue en 81.
McEnroe said after he lost to Chang at the 1991 US Open that Chang must have watched this match. Chang also lobbed McEnroe to death in that match.
Lendl was a major nemesis for McEnroe. Ground stroke machine vs. great serve and volley.
Every single game between Lendl and McEnroe was the transition between the modern tennis and the old school tennis, Lendl show us how the new tennis was going to be played.
Absolutely! Racket technology started changing in 85...
Great crowd as usual in the US. Ivan so easy made them quiet. After this match Ivan beat John 8-1 before they retired. Just against Connors Lendl improved his game and Connors didn´t beat Lendl a single time after 1984. 17-0 to Lendl after 1984.
I appreciate the original commercials in this.
85-87 Lendl was near unstoppable. Everything in his game clicked.
Except at Wimbledon, where the limitations of his game were always exposed by high-quality serve-and-volleyers: Leconte, Becker and Cash beat him comprehensively in those years.
@@martydav9475 Agreed. His tendency to "cup" his forehand volley cost him dearly.
Lendl and Borg had great endurance.
Man, I sure do miss those court level camera angles during US Open matches. Now, they look like they are being shown from a drone
Ivan the greatest of all time and he is the father of modern tennis
Lendl so dominant in 1987, it's hard to think that it was also a bit of an end point for him. He would never win the US or French Opens again and would never reach another wimbledon final. He would also never win the tour finals again after 1987, an event he'd then won what was a record 5 times (untill both Federer and Djokovic surpassed it).
As mentioned during the commentary. IL said Mac's speed on the ball is slower and the same for his movement.
Just look at Macs serve, 1st and 2nd. No where near what they used to be.
At the 1985 U.S. Open had either (1) McEnroe gotten himself into excellent physical fitness condition right at the start of his pro tennis career in 1977/1978 or (2) if the USTA had scheduled the McEnroe vs. Wilander semifinal at nightime instead of during that brutally hot 117 degree heat during the day, McEnroe probably would have defeated Lendl in the 1985 U.S. Open final!
Mac was the last in the long line of old-style 'continental grip on all shots' player. That era was properly put to bed by Lendl. Just blown off the court. Tennis never looked back.
It was "put to bed" by racket technology. Even so, Lendl and McEnroe were on even terms (slightly in favor of Mac) up to John's hiatus in 1986. After that, he was never the same player again.
@@fundhund62 more like ‘85
Racket technology started changing in 85 which was the same time when Macs dominance ended and Lendl began.
Lendl was using a small, old school racket. Did you ever play with the Adidas branded racket Lendl played with? I'm not sure who actually made it. I got my hands on it once and hit with it. I had a hard time with control and mis-hits. I was probably a 3.5-4 at the time (not a pro but certainly no beginner) and had gone to a graphite racket for the rigidity because my older Prince Pro (aluminum) was too flexible. The Adidas was somewhere in between. Anyway, that's a long way of saying Lendl didn't have an advantage over McEnroe in rackets since McEnroe was using a graphite Dunlop at the time.
@@scott1564 interesting...let me ask, Mac prime was mostly with wooden rackets. .when the tour went graphite his style struggled and he wasn't as quick of course...
Lendl must've relished this match: beating the hometown favorite with such authority!
1985 was the last year Mac was a genuine heavyweight contender in tennis. Incredible to think he was basically over the hill by age 26.
The seemed to be the norm back then. Maybe it was that any slight loss of pace, slight loss of stamina, would be exaggerated by the limitations of wooden rackets?
too much weed, drugs poor nutrition and technique was now sound all wrists
I want to go back in time where this was my focus of life. And I would save some money and invest in the amazon book company.
How is that relevant to McEnroe Vs Lendl? You would tell them to invest as well??
Alan Chong my comment relates to this match as it relates to the best time in my life. I would like to go back in time. While I am back in time I would invest in the very small company called Amazon. If I did that I would now be a billionaire. Spelling things out is frustrating.
@@SammyEddie Thanks for the super-fast response. And yes, Jeff Bezos. Richest man in the world. Who would have known, except for him!
Alan Chong yes. It was. I was just making a joke. Have a good day.
Or go back to when Netflix stock was $1.97
Fantastic voley - 1:04:20
Let us not forget 1984 when Mac crushed Lendl in the final 6-3, 6-4, 6-1. More of a beatdown on Lendl than this match score of 6-3, 6-3, 6-4.
LOL😛 when @ 1:57.25 in the video...Mary Carillo interrupts to straight-up dog McEnroe and says John was so overmatched that night in every single department, and at that exact moment, Mac rips a nice serve to Lendl's backhand and then punches off a perfect backhand volley for the winner. Lendl was the #1 seed and ended up being the Champion. Mac was not at his best, this is true. 1987 might have been the best Lendl ever at the US Open. He won his first-round match 6-0, 6-0, 6-0, and then Lendl went on to lose only 1 set the entire tournament. Not many US Open champions can ever claim that. And that was in a tie-breaker in the final. In fact, no man has ever not lost any sets on the way to the US Open title so Lendl at least ties for best ever run threw the draw this year 1987. Basically, everyone was overmatched by Lendl this year. the only player to give Lendl a good match this year was Wilander in the final, with 2 tie-breaker sets. However, Wilander still suffered a 6-0 bagel in one of the sets in the final. Any pro getting a bagel in the finals of the US Open 6-0 for a set is quite rare and really shows that Lendl was on another level to all. Good for Carillo to make such a key point against McEnroe. Right as he dominates a point against the tournament winner. Hat's off to Lendl for dominating all.
Le meilleur attaquant contre le meilleur fond de court de l époque (en terme de palmarès)les années 80
Landl calm and composed. Controlled aggression. McEnroe aggressive.
In a way, John Mac Enro is fascinating because it looks that every one can play as him, because his technique is so "simple" with so few preparetion.
by fascinating..do u mean one dimensional and boring?
@@vja1970 i mean that his playblooks so simple but was also gracefull. I loved his backhand, his gesture. He looks always in a fragile equilibrium.
I watched this match live all those years ago. Lendl was scary in this match, but what in the world was up with John McEnroe hitting 3 double faults at 3 all in the first set? Sad to see.
A glaring difference between the vintage McEnroe and this version was his serve precision. High stakes matches against the likes of Lendl can't be won trying to play off a weak 2nd serve. It could no longer be relied upon to bail him out when backed up against the wall. A lot of this can be traced back to the extended break he took in '86 while still in his prime, during which he fell way out of shape and could never regain his form.
Peter Fleming, his doubles partner, also said that towards the end of 1984 McEnroe developed a leg injury that he didn't look after properly and he never was quite the same after that
Great post...the game was starting to shift to power by the mid 80s w the rackets...McEnroe style was going to struggle just as lendl would have struggled in the early 80s
@coffeeinthemorning yep... but technology changed in 85...lendl got better and becker emerged...
@coffeeinthemorning exactly...the combo of mac not quite being what he was and the changing game...
@coffeeinthemorning yes...absolutely...85 is when the technology started to change..mac getting blown off the court by Curren..Becker..lendl becoming world number 1... mac had a surreal style that wasn't meant for today...which is why we talk about him to this day
Mac enroe fera quand même une demi finale de l us open en 90 et en sa fin de carrière de demi finale à Wimbledon,89 et 92
Lendl created the new C path forehand that everyone uses today, more extreme today but I think Lendl invented it.
Nah, would give that to Borg, who Lendl copied by the way.
@@hunkgolden5726 I give that to you!
Go watch them play in 84. They hit it much harder here.
I’d love to ask them. The racquets SEEM to be the same, and I believe Lendl worked harder than any other player then. Maybe Lendl saw John couldn’t deal with power as much, so John couldn’t use the angles as much? I have no idea, but it’s really neat to see how Lendl’s volleys improved within just a few short years. Interesting hu?
@@SammyEddie in 1984, both players were exhausted from their semi finals. In his autobiography, McEnroe says he was really worried about how he'd hold up in the 1984 final physically, then he saw Lendl in the locker room and saw he was having problems just doing basic stretches.
@frank lapidus I would say in 1985 with the victory of B.Becker at Wimbledon and the other one of I.Lendl at the US Open.
@frank lapidus in 85 racket technology took off. Kevin Curran blew Mac away in the wimbledon QF..straight sets...Mac was 1 seed and 3 time champion.. Lendl took over tennis in 85 and after
Back noise IS missing
Lendl was like the real life Ivan Drago
Damn Mary C has been commentating for more than 30 years. hahahaha....I think Lendl was the only one that regularly used sawdust on his grip in every point and I thought Nadal had weird tendencies.
Which Dunlop racket is he using here?
Max 200G
@@msiroi01 no, its not that racket
Mary Carillo: I respect McEnroe as a player and competitor, being good to the game.
JokeH: Where where, where you can see it Mary. Just kidding it was Looney Tunes.
Family guy Stewie: Now I'm sad. Season 8. Part 4.
I as was one of the popular; why players aren't takin their opponent's serve? If they did win, however, they didn't have to compare on their serve against.
Also, naturally, it's more difficult win, gain advance.
If Lendl was a player in these years, he would be #1 seeded. Great forehand, great backhand, great service e solid from baseline. Good also on volley.
He was a mediocre volleyer, like Djokovic.
@@martydav9475 Absolutely right
Lendle introduced the new power of tennis, Sampras perfected it and Federer and Nadal, Novack took it to another dimension, even though I prefer the Sampras era where serv and volley and much better caliber players were around, nowadays is all for the damn entertainment of the crowd, they want to see 30 point rallies and 5 sets, what a load of schit.
Après 1985 Mac enroe n est plus un joueur de tout premier plan ,Lendl aura toujours le dessus dans les tournois majeurs (ce match ,Un 8 iem de finale de Roland Garros 88,Masters 89 et l open d Australie 89 ou 90)
A l'exception du tournois de Dallas en demi-finale en 1989,où McEnroe battra Lendl en 4 sets...
The sting had gone from Mac's serve.
1:51:03 "Come on you brat!" lol
The best
11:00
Poor mc enroe 😢😢😢😢
Lendl smelled blood when he beat Mac at the French.
Haha. Well said and true. Seems like McEnroe didn't take "the Ivan threat" seriously enough. The ol' case of the hare and the tortoise fable. This time being played out at the top of Mens' tennis! (Don't count your Slams and French Open and US Open crowns before they hatch!"
This obviously was so one sided tV 📺 commentator !
NY crowd is brutal !
Typical of the attitude of New Yorkers is that at the U.S. Open not only do the fans ignore the chair umpire's pleas to stand still behind the court as a player is preparing to start the next game, but even the ushers who are paid to follow the instructions of the chair umpire to "hold the gates" to keep the fans from entering the seating area as a player is preparing to serve ignore the chair umpire's instructions!
Yankees and Californians...tsk-tsk..
Mac Peaked in 84 the game had moved on after that no disgrace in that .
If you watch younger videos of John, he looks like he enjoys playing tennis much more than this.
These commercials...
When is the USTA gonna outlaw the topspin lob? And copoly strings?? Nowadays anyone can hit a topspin lob. At the beginning of this match McEnroe was 14-12 vs Lendl. Lendl won 8 of the next 9 matches, finishing with a 21-15 H2H record.
Curses!!!
Lendl had class.
McEnroe was just the cliché of the US-American bully.
Lendl was a bully himself, though. People usually give him a pass because McEnroe and Connors were even worse.. but he abused officials regularly, just like they did.
@@fundhund62 All three (Lendl, Connors and McEnroe) lost their cool. When top guys had tantrums.
@@alanchong7513 That's true! There is a difference between losing your cool and deliberately bully other people (opponents, spectators, officials), though.
Everybody loses their cool once in a while. But not everybody is a bully.
@@fundhund62 Yes, losing your cool is usually over a bad call or making an unforced error. Bullying is a tactic to intimate the opponent. All that yelling of c'mon can be construed as intimidation. Leyton Hewitt did that a lot to psych out opponents, I feel.
They were both less annoying than the big-mouthed, over paid announcers. Had to turn the sound off.
Mcenroe looks scared here, not the usual angry look.
Agreed. He looks out of it , like he's not even in the game mentally. Looks like he's been up all night partying. Something's wrong.
He took a lot of grief for his antics in round 3, perhaps this kept him from coming to the boil, maybe a bit self-conscious for such a big occasion.
John Newcombe is the greatest
Johnny in a funk and not looking good. Definitely something's wrong. He's out of it, not even in the game mentally. You can see it in his face , he looks like he's been up all night partying. There's no pep in his step, flatfooted. You can see it in his serve, it looks mechanical and slow. Lendl is beating him down and just taking him apart. You can hear the people in the crowd sense something's wrong trying to encourage him. At this point he should've took some time off , refocused himself and hired a fitness trainer.
Unfortunately Mc Enroe wa already a shadow of himself............he was slighly slower probably half a step and lost his flair , except few good matches he was unable to recover the level he had even in 1985
@@elwoodpalmer720 Exactly. But something is bothering him too. Maybe the pressures of the tour and marriage. He looks burned out.
I think Lendl used to intentionally aim the ball at his opponent.
OK was McEnroe coked out of his mind, or was it just me?
Lendl did not revolutionize tennis, if anyone did it was Connors. There was also power tennis long before, back to the 50’s.
Realistically Lendl defeated McEnroe in the French final '84; but celebrated it in Us Open '85 by beating the best player so far ( ATP for the record 17-15 ).
Losing the Masters '85 Lendl does not win in the beginning. On the turn won the Masters '82-3 again '86-7.
Lendl not necessarily the best of the '80s: but the most consistent of the decade.
"You can see why McEnroe won with Woodforde '89 when he stings in, but Lendl on the dominant."
Most Us titles had Philadelphia 'willow tree' Tilden 16 in between 1913-1929.
McEdition "Everytime everyone of them."
Cross the rule books and have won all of them Federer, Nadal, Djokovic 0321.
Yeah, New York they won Rosewall, in Paris, Wimbledon.
Compared to the serve Lendl's on the right. Service is like a delicate machine, how to use it. The different is not in the motion, the difference is how to play with it.
The service game is still accurate whether to serve with shorter backswing. It is not comparable.
The whole set up is more important for a serve that can make the different game.
Would Tennis dispense with the second serve? Not necessarily, because on the whole it's only a rule. It has justified secondary meaning. Firstable, when it's played counting with one point at a time, in the tie-break. 9 /18: jokeh😶 13.08.21.
The journeyman,,,Lendl this being one of the best game he played..i don't know this so.
If you could count to ten!! Probably being that way.
McEnroe 1981 how many you can miss??
McEnroe 1987 I'm ready.
Lendl's first serve is better, because he tries to close it down, if he went to net, it was not possible.
McEnroe at his peak had better 2 serve, for he tried to play it more often behind the returner that Lendl mentioning he learned later studying his opponent's game.
These games should probably be little more tight that didn't have to compare. It is often so than better you do is off-the-center.
You would only target yourseif. Motivating is another thing not being there, don't work that way.
The game is still unmarked, if concerning anybody, I would know.
@Jouko Halonen. Realistically speaking, McEnroe choked against Lendl in the 1984 French Open final when he was up 2 sets to none. Even though one must credit Lendl for not giving up when he was down by 2 sets in that match as he had a tendency to do early in his career when trailing in a match, the bottom line is that McEnroe lost that match more than Lendl took it away from him!
@@michaelbarlow6610JP Mcenroe could not handle the pace of the game on Clay, say, Borg or Nadal did best.
In an early career McEnroe mentioned his goal winning Borg in 5 sets in the French, on turn he lost it unsophisticated to another player. Habit he had through his career.
His best, however, none to 2.
Actually; pace of the game would decide because, it is of possibility.
Different players vary their game differently. McEnroe and Borg were different type of players, but could match each others game.
Although, it is fair to say that goin' to net or stay on the groundstrokes necessarily mean of power game, but is need for speed.
Mb You lost this, because of it is exactly so. Necessarily meaning winning or losing.
But you were absolutely, how it was treated, the game played at its best is genious, and that outcome even lendl v mcenroe.
All creditS who made Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and on..Sherlock.
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@@joukohalonen7770 . McEnroe at his best in 1983-1984 (especially in 1984) could handle the pace of power players like Lendl and Becker on non-clay surfaces because of his superb reflexes and quickness on the court and on red clay courts because the slowness of the red clay surface (which is actually pulverized brick not clay) negates the velocity with which power players with big serves like Lendl and Becker can hit the ball! Borg and Nadal are not power players. They both, in essence, are baseline rallying players (although Borg would go to the net in his Wimbledon matches), although Borg had a much better first serve than Nadal which would give Borg the edge over Nadal if they played against each other at Roland Garros with both at the very peak of their respective primes. Both Borg and Nadal were about equally fast and physically fit so neither would have an advantage in those two areas, but Borg as long as he keeps the ball deep, would defeat Nadal because of his superior first serve. Only if he hits the ball short in rallies would Nadal have the advantage.
Lendl didn't like borg and Sampras. Edberg was also lendls nemesis and a lesser degree Boris becker. Everyone else lendl cooked them.
De 80 à 88 Lendl est au moins en finale du Masters et de 82 à 89 au moins en finale de l us open...un record que Nadal ne possède pas ...
A partir de 86 Mac cesse d être un joueur de tout tout premier plan ,alors que Lendl débute un règne vers la première place mondiale de près de 3 ans
grand break de 6 mois en 1986, des problèmes conjugaux et de plus ne s'entrainnait jamais, contrairement à Lendl qui était un boureau de travail.. sa défaite de 1984 à roland garros l'a beaucoup affecté aussi mentalement..
Mcenroe ne s'entraîner jamais pourtant il fut numero 1 pendant 4 ou 5ans
No me agais caso, pero McEnroe no fue el mismo desde que se caso , ya no explotaba , antes McEnroe cuanto mas protestaba mejor jugaba, pero llego Tatum, y le quiso convertir en un chico bueno, ya nunca fue el mismo, dejo de ser MacEnroe para ser solo un jugador mas, aunque el avance de la tecnologia, tambien tuvieron su parte de culpa
At this stage of their careers, Lendl's not cheering as hard when beating McEnroe. I understand it. I mean, I don"t need to cheer when I've swatted a pesky fly with a fly-swatter neither. Same nonchalance.
La rivalidad entre Lendl y McEnroe trascendia lo deportivo. Se tenian verdadero odio y eso en la pista de tenis se dejaba sentir
One of the Top 5 greatest tennis players of all time beating the G.O.A.T. in straight sets.
McEnroe totally wasted here. He let down his own talent.
Weak handshake from McEnroe at the end of the match. Never takes losing too well, especially against arch-rival Ivan Lendl. Lendl got to No.1 and was just the consumate professional about his business. That's why he was on top for so long.
The public , absolutely disgusting. I would put a screen on all four sides between them and the players and let them see the game on a screen.
Mary Carillo: I respect McEnroe as a player and competitor, being good to the game.
JokeH: Where..where. You can see it Mary. Just kidding..it was Looney Tunes, of course, of course, you do. Of course you do.
Familly guy; Stewie: Now I'm poored again.
Sloppy playing by JMac here...
McEnroe never had a good game against good players , just a show !
Too much weed recreational drugs bad nutrition and no sound basics on his strokes ended his career early...
This shit is unwatchable, mainly because Mcenroe wasted so much time between points and his serves. He was never well conditioned, and he looked lethargic at times.
One of Mcenroe's worst big match performances. Though he came out loooking focused it didn't last long.
Couldn't serve when it mattered. Seemed like he didn't win a single point between the middle of the first set and the middle of the second, looking completely demoralised.
Couldn't handle the crowd moving around and having to wait, couldn't play with any patience. Totally pathetic match-play by his standards.
Probably didn't really believe he could win if Lendl played his A game. He was a worse player than 2 years before. Perhaps he'd been deluding himself that he could return to no.1, if so this match disabused him of that notion, tout suite.
@@bobstevens3265 Jimmy Connors called it right: "Lendl had to wait to become number one until Borg retired, I got old and McEnroe went nuts" - a reference to McEnroe's embracing of the New York party/drug scene and his sabbatical away from tennis. Up until '84 Connors and McEnroe had Lendl's number when it mattered most; and the limitations of Lendl's game were always exposed at Wimbledon.It's a bit of a myth that Lendl somehow soared to new heights from "85 onwards, he didn't really (he'd already reached three successive U.S.Open finals: '82-'84) it was Connors and McEnroe who declined markedly.
@@martydav9475 True to a degree. Ivan's game also significantly improved.
@@martydav9475 .. Anyone who is neutral and has followed tennis would give credit to Ivan for his achievements. You cannot win 8 slams, 5 Masters, 94 tournaments and be World no 1 for 270 weeks by default just because Borg retired, McEnroe lost focus or Connors got old. Also Connors was known to be a sore loser. All other pros including McEnroe accepted that Lendl was the best player in the world from 1985 US open onwards till 1990. Remember Lendl beat Edberg, Wilander, Connors, Mcenroe and all greats to win the Grand Slam’s and he also beat Boris thrice from 1985 to 1987 at the Masters and 2 of them were finals. You have to hand it to Ivan that he persevered, worked hard and not only reached the top but stayed at the top longer than anyone in the 1980’s. Also the way he improved his game on grass beating Edberg at Wimbledon and nearly overcoming Boris in 1989 and winning at Queens beating Becker is a testament to his greatness and drive to improve.He was the best and most successful tennis player of the 1980’s.. Connors and some others may like it or not does not matter.
Lendl owns 1986-
1990 total machine &Mac by 87,cleary lost his 1st step ,out powered on the serve, & layed allot of unforced errors . (This match)Volley into net type shit. Shame. I dispize Ivan winning
Not Quite, Wilander won 3 majors and the number 1 ranking in 88 ( Edberg won Wimbeldon for a Swedish Slam ). I used to despise Lendl but not so much now.
mcenroe must have the least athletic ability of any open champion. his physique was that of a school girl and he acted like one....
I am a big fan of Mac but I agree on both points. In his prime he won by using his brain - best shot selection, all spins and lobs, flat, slice, top you name it, fortitude, big points under stress; his legs, he was quick around the court; and there is more you could say to be sure. He never tried to overpower the ball. Back in the 70's and 80's tennis stars were built like track stars - Vitas, Borg, Mac were all slim and fast - they needed speed to motor around the court, to get to drop shots and move side to side. No one was built like a Tsonga or Safin... As for your second point - it is Mac's bad behavior on the court and gamesmanship at times that has turned me off - as I have studied his game I admire it more than ever - yet that poor conduct has turned me off.
i'm not sure mac could crack top 100. his groundies were just too inconsistent, you can only go so far with gile....
without doubt, she even said that she can't watch archival footage of herself as a player, compared to the women players of today, it's awful....
People maybe right in their assumption that mcenroe would not be even in the top 40 or even ridiculously the top 100 in todays game. That is if you think tennis should be all about 6'2 foot automatons, playing with rackets that have strings that allow for nothing but sheer power, players who get a nose bleed if they have to come to the net,who cannot volley,and who with honourable exceptions of Federer &warwinka, all play the same way. Players who complain they play too much(only the grand slams now are best of five sets in mcenroes& lendls day a lot of the big tournment finals were best of 5 ie, masters,wtc finals,monte carlo etc). If you like watching repetitive tennis played by players the public have not heard of, then if i were mac,l would be glad not to be in the top 100. Mcenroe for all his faults played in a unique way that at times was sublime. So while 95% of todays top 100 will be forgotten when they retire. People still watch&talk about mcenroe 26 years after he retired.
Jason Brooks , I agree with that ; he’ll be missed. I’m in my fifties and started watching tennis in the late seventies and stopped watching in 2010 because it was SO boring ( excepting Federer of course ). Remember the great Czech touch player Miroslv Mecir ? The Swede killer they used to call him because none of the Swedish players had any idea how to play him. Just one of many players I miss. We won’t see the
Ike’s of him again unfortunately. Milo
Lendl was so boring
Mary Carillo says absolutely nothing intetesting, a diversity color commentator that won almost nothing in womens Tennis.
Almost as bad is having Howard Cosell at courtside, and Bud Collins is a plain vanilla commenter who has goofy sayings in the day. Robert at 69.
Sorry McEnroe, you were a very good player but Ivan Lendl was the greatest tennis player in the world.
Lendl rules
This was lendl at his peak. The mac of 84 would have taken him.
Lendl's best year was 1986, not 1987.
Yeah but remember the Lendl of 84 gave the McEnroe of 84 the toughest loss of his career, and the one that really kickstarted his own
Did you forget that they played in the final of Roland Garros in 84. McEnroe still calls that the most heartbreaking los s of his career.
Vincent Hannah ..mac was up 2 sets and a break in the third on clay...almost steamrolled lendl...great xomevack..mac then dominated connors at Wimbledon and destroyed lendl in the 84 us open...do u not know any of this? a serve and volly player should never make a run at the french ..sampras never did anything...
The best Lend was better than the best McEnroe.