IIHS tests a new kind of active head restraint
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- IIHS recently evaluated a new kind of active head restraint that uses rear-facing sensors to detect a collision before it occurs and adjust a driver's head restraint into position. This allows for increased comfort and can improve crash outcomes.
Technology like this provides new opportunities for vehicles to adapt to their occupants.
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Things can always get safer, thank you all for what you do!
Real good push to the industry now to account for this
Push Chryler to treat people fairly for the random exploding headrest that is reportedly injurying people from defect.
More important is proper headrest height adjustment. Very few people adjust them properly, and most do not self-adjust with seat position programs (driver 1/2 for example). My 5 Series does adjust them, the first car I’ve owned that does this.
Y'all gotta be thankful to Saab for introducing and developing the active head restraint technology through the years. They brought so much for the car industry on so many levels, even tho they stayed for so little. Saab forever !
That would be terrifying sitting in your seat and you feel the head rest moved knowing your gonna get in a crash
The chrysler random exploding AHRs fully deploy 3 times faster than an airbag in 13/1000th of second, if it's as fast as those you wouldn't even know it's coming, at least if you knew it was behind your head to begin with you would know the sound of a gunshot wasn't you being shot.
My 2011 328i Cabrio has has this type of head restraint. It has a small discharge bottle that pushes the front part of the head restraint towards the passengers head to minimize whiplash. It works extremely well.
What if I have already resting my head on the head pillows, or the head restraints? I always lay back on the seat during red light, or in a traffic jam. Will it cause secondary injury by pushing my head away and crash it twice?
What iihs and euroncap are not testing for is seat backs which won't collapse in a 50mph rear crash, causing paralysis, ejection and injury to those behind.
Interesting point.
Yeah only ones that do that are Volvo and Mercedes even Subaru are far behind in that area.
@@ar12. Where are you seeing these results?
@@MBisFrenchy crash videos 50mph rear s80 only Volvo that did similar to Subaru all second gen whips Volvos hold up well in rear crashes so did Mercedes Subaru seat bucked back to far.
What should we do guys? So you guys are mentioning the only cars that have the collapsed seats when in rear accident is Volvo and Mercedes? I try to buy jap cars because euro cars are expensive for me to repair in general
Doing great work, thanks
Will they be able to retract if there isn’t an accident?
Yes
Of course. If they use an electric motor like seen here they just reverse the power and the motor retracts it.
Can we also see the return of SOFT head restraints. Modern cars have such rock hard restraints i feel like that could do more harm than if they were softer like in 2000s cars. Cars like the original lexus ls400 or the 3rd gen 4runner with the super padded tilt forward headrests.
If head restraints were softer, your head would bottom out the cushion of the headrest depending on the severity of the crash, causing severe head injuries.
@@cgiacona there has to be a middle ground in there somewhere. Keep the strong structures but just pad the top to take off the initial blow.
I'm guessing modern car restraints are better, which is why they were acing the IIHS tests, and they probably shifted because of the tests
@@SuperMrgentleman I think the overall shape and strength and structure comply with the modern requirements, but there is no way a rock hard head rest is better in the real world. It probably tests well because the lack of compression in the cushion will make the numbers seem like the structure is stronger by not deforming as much.
@@cgiacona But if the Active head restraints that parachute the head were already extended without having to deploy, they would be so much cheaper and I think safer but look rediculous. They would also eliminate the potential for defective random deployments like the controversial Chrysler exploding head rests. It's cosmetics, I believe.
Amazing
Good, in theory.
However, it will probably end up with new cars twatting me over the back of the head every time I stop at a roundabout with someone vaguely behind me...
I think you should also test a few different scenarios. For example, the bullet vehicle crashes 50 % overlap with the target vehicle to see if the sensor is working properly.
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May 8, 2023 11:32PM
Your english is perfect.
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Does this new honda head restraint extend that slowly, or was that slow motion cutting to real-time speed? If it's real-time for the full duration, it makes me wonder, with so much time to detect the crash, can't there be other mitigations put in place?
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IIHS, "We are discontinuing the head restraint and seat test as all get a good rating." Also IIHS, "Our recent tests show automakers need to improve head restraint designs as they are failing to protect people."
Maybe IIHS is working on a newer, tougher test since everyone was already doing well?
@@SuperMrgentleman That's possible. But I think they mainly did this to encourage manufactures to add active head restraints as some cars don't have these.
Wow it adjusts prior to the impact?
I’m planning on working here one day
This is cool, but it seems to me that head position sensors (i.e. pressure sensor in headrest) would be needed, for when the driver has their head against the headrest - as is recommended. Otherwise, the head would be launched forward.
Ahhh a whiplash test. Very interesting.
i just wanna ask if there's other technologie in the seat can meets this innovation ( Optimization and modeling of the safest driving position in the event of an accident.) i find the high tech head rest and the whips of volvo, I'm a student in electronics and i ask if there's more technologies that we can put them on the driver's seat...
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All for one, one for all.
When will the Audi A4 updated side test come out
It should pulsate the brake lights or rapidly the flash hazard lights. Im fairly certain Volvos do
Can you please do 2023 acura integra
So if I'm resting my head on the headrest, do i get my noggin launched?
Please encourage active head restraints and seat bottom airbags. Back-tilting seat bottoms prevent seatbelt underride and forward tilting head restraints prevent whiplash, but people use cushions to mitigate the health problems they cause and the benefits are often lost in the real world. Physical therapists recommend placing a cushion at the back of the seat as a default treatment for back pain caused by driving.
but what happens if the head is resting against the head restraint? will it just fling the head forward?
It won’t close back?
How about we get drivers to wear a helmet and HANS device?
What if your head is already on the headrest?
@Justinian Yi Yeah but then it would shunt your head forwards. This new design
That's why I drive with a pillow
Maybe racing car's Hans or Hans hybrid system is a better solution
WTF!! that's creepy!!
I wear a garrote to protect my head.
Couldn't you use the test crasher instead of another actual vehicle to do the rear impact? Seems like a waste of a vehicle that could be used for its own test. Sensors would pick up the test crasher just like a regular vehicle.
Would love to see you guys go after seat back strength. So many cars have seat backs that just collapse in a rear-end crash, sometimes paralyzing the occupant of the seat and crushing children and small adults seated behind.
Can you please state at least one? And please don't include 20 years old cars or even more... Thank you
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If the one in FCA Chrysler from 2010-August of 2017, when they began washing components with alcohol to remove any oil contaminant causing random deployments, doesn't injure people, why re-invent the wheel? Is the active component just a matter of cosmetics? Are you not being totally upfront with consumers? Wouldn't it be safer and cheaper to leave it extended without deployment? It would still act like a parachute slowing the head back, no bells, no whistles lol, heard after a defective one bounces your chin off your chest from close proximity "random" deployment absent a rear-end collision. Is this one going to be like the controversial Chrysler exploding headrests any you'll claim it has virtually zero chance of injury unless its "Accidentally" deployed but not if it explodes on its own? My DR's and I disagree with Chryslers Zero injury statment, and I believe the masses of uninformed drivers and passenger will eventually figure that out too, when they become informed, heck first responders I've talked to don't even know about these devices so how will they be able to tell if one deployed as it should or randomly deployed and caused a rollover fatality from the reaction?
Sitting here in the last month wearing my neck brace from my C4-7 Neck fusion, PTSD, TBI, speech therapy, another round coming of that, from just shutting the door to my Jeep Patriot after dark from a random headrest explosion with my head really close to it, I didn't even know the device was there when it went off, my wife screaming what's going on, what's going on. I believe these devices have the potential to kill from distraction too not just TBI's, concussions and neck injures amung many other types reported to NHTSA; I attempted to fight a phantom attacker behind me in the dark, thinking I was going to be killed, hit again, or shot and then my wife attacked. Somebody is going to die from the reaction if it already hasn't under an NDA or unsuspected as Chrysler warns of "accidental" deployment from a hand, foot, or loose cargo hitting it during a rollover fatality, but what body part to they not warn of hitting the head rest? The head,,, to give you a ride on the head sled catapult.
If you don't brand them with an SRS warning to inform consumers what is behind their heads and give them a choice to walk away from purchase as an informed consumer, I don't think that is cool. Do those ones sound like a gunshot, too, like the random exploding FCA Chrysler models?
I do believe in the concept, don't get me wrong, but given that in all the crash test videos I have seen with the AHRs, the head is already placed at a safe distance from the AHR, so far, in fact it can be seen that the AHR will not hit the back of the dummy head because the AHR deploys so fast as to beat the shock wave. The one that catapulted my head from close proximity would not be an issue in an accident or not had ability to randomly deploy if it came standard already extended, there would also be no issue of the consumer not aware of what is behind there heads because it would be seen.. Since Chrysler's letter informing of warratntt extension to the defectively deploying AHRs, absent the word defect of course. They states it can take several months to replace a "random" deployed AHR and does not warn to park one's vehicle, translation? To me it means the fully extended AHRs will still work, the issue demanding attention when the airbag controller senses a rear end impact and a warning light comes on that is absent the random exploding head rest deployments.
I can assume my driver-side AHR still works if my wife, who shuttles me to dr appts is hit from behind, the two linear springs would act as a parachute and "lessen" the risk of whiplash. So, is it not for comfort, seeing how the fully extended AHR still doesn't touch the back of the crash test dummy head? Honestly, why do we hear "for comfort" but not "for cosmetic" reasons?
If you think People wouldn't buy a ridiculous looking extended device behind one's head, well, make it look fantastic, and you would be telling the whole truth that it would be safer than the competition, without the ability to catapult a passenger or drivers head if randomly deployed, because it would be absent that ability, from the many scenarios from close proximity. Heres a scenario, A soccer mom with kids in the back seat in her Dodge Caravan with the Defective AHR with the oil contamination ESC cracks just waiting for that tap to trigger the explosion. She is in reverse to a gas pump, and her rear tire strikes a rock and her head, a body part Chrysler doesn't mention could cause "accidental" deployment, bumps the AHR, then Boom against her turned face looking out the mirror, then boom again when the car hits the gas pump. I guess that's what PTSD gets me now, visions of all I don't think people imajine.
I firmly believe it would be safer; unlike my passenger AHR, I have tied with a paracord and a pillow behind me to keep my head away from the un-deployed AHR FCA wont replace (with one absent the oil defect) unless it too first randomly deploys. At my last Post fusion DR appt, when I said my passenger side AHR could have the potential defect from the first explosion, I was told I should sit in the back seat; God forbid I'm hit with approximately 120# of force, deploying 3 times faster than an airbag for a second time. I had pre-existing neck arthritis, and virtually everyone will get Degenerative disk disease with age as well. Are elderly and those like vets with TBIs with pre-existing conditions considered? In my case I had pre-existing conditions and thought the law is suppose to take people like me into consideration for damages if their condition is worsented (neck fusion), they deny they can injure even those more vulnerable. Puts you between a rock and hard place when the insurance companies will say it's a defect so they won't cover a random deployment injury medical bills let alone pain and suffering, so it's good for the insurance company. Chrylers manufacturer is out of the U.S I see they always being excused from litigation for lack of standing. are these devices made in the U.S?
I hate to see anyone else get a default letter from the mortgage company and life turned upside down, things to consider. Keep it simple, So why not just leave the device extended, to begin with, is it you cant make tons of money with no fancy deployment gizmo to go wrong and injure anyone that way?
seems like a waste of money to have a actual vehicle to do the rear ending? why not build a cart like the side impact crash?