How to Test Fuel Pressure, Pump and Main Fuel Relay - Honda Civic CRX 88-91 EF
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I have to say bro, there are alot of guys out there...but you know your stuff. You deserve way more recognition. Keep up the good work.
Wintin Wolf Thanks so much for the vote of confidence!!
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Hi, I have a 1988 Honda Civic .. the car was sitting for about a year without being driven because of a bad distributor.. Finally, I replaced the whole distributor and main relay which is OEM. Then, because the car was sitting for a year I also put in a brand new battery, did an oil change and put in fresh fuel in tank.. sufficiently enough to start the car.. still car has no spark and it appears no fuel pressure. This is what the mechanic told me over the phone because the car is located far away. Also, when he turns key to "on" position, the check engine light comes on but it doesn't shot off.. it remains on.... the car still has same ignition wires by NGK and same NGK spark plugs.. also when you crank it the technometer needle does not move at all..
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I would appreciate your help.. thank you
Ecu might be bad especially if the CEL comes on and doesn't turn off.
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How do I test my 88 Honda Civic sedan ECU with a test light? is there a simple method? I wanna check and make sure is the ECU like you said... do you know where is the fuse for the ECU? thank you for your help
I really appreciate how you solve the problem by working through one item at a time. Just like my Dad taught me! Great job.
Same here. Dad's doing a good job for us! ❤️
I admire your work ethic to make sure you're not wasting time. You went thru all the steps to make sure it was the fuel pump first instead of just throwing parts at it
+PURE Virginia Man, you have to!! Dropping the tank is a pain in the booty! And thanks man, I'm trying to set a good example for anyone attempting this in the future!
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I'm late to this thread so hopefully you see this. If I have a 96 civic that doesn't require removing the gas tank but I also don't have the fuel pressure gauge., would you say it's worth a shot and just examining the fuel pump and sock, or should I actually buy or rent a fuel pressure gauge and make sure it is indeed the fuel pump. My car is experiencing different issues. Car will start but immediately dies at times, sometimes will not start at all without applying the gas, and sometimes will just work fine. It
Examining it won't tell you much especially if it still looks relatively clean. A pressure test is the easiest way to go and out if the pump is doing it's job.
Was about to give up on my CRX with all its intermittent fuel issues. Thank you so much for this!!! 🙏
Glad it helped!
@GarageBuiltHondas replaced the fuel main relay. Ignition switch and fuel filter.
Fuel pressure jumps to 50 when pump primes but immediately decreases back down to 10 after 1-2 secs. So can't get it to start.
I checked each spark plug inlet for leaking injectors into cylinders, and nothing. If I pinch the fuel return line on the regulator, the pressure jumps up to above 80, and the fuel pump makes strange noises but still goes back down to 10.
That seem like the fuel pump not holding pressure or something else?
I applaud your patience and though instruction.
You are a most vital resource in educating our next generation of repair enthusious..
Thank you for restoring my faith in online CZcams turorials
I really liked your comment, thank you!
No no,
Thank you!
For being you.
Don't ever let it go to your head, at the same time try not to second guess your true naturally acquired talent.
As we age some of us forget more than most people will ever know...
Just picked up a 91 sedan that is not getting fuel. Going to start down this path. I’m so glad you laid it out in a logical process. Crossing my fingers that it’s the relay and not the pump 😂.
There's a good chance it is!! Can't tell you how many times I've seen a bad relay.
I can confirm what he says at 16:20 is correct, don’t use that small sock that comes with the fuel pump, you’ll have issues like hesitation, bad idle, engine dies at 1/4 - 1/2 tank. Replace that sock with a longer OE style sock and save yourself the stress.
Just changed my fuel tank on my 88 hatch and when my car is less than half a tank and I’m going up a slight hill my check engine light comes on and it seems like it wants to die. Do you think that stupid sock could be the culprit?
What was the CEL saying it was?
As always quality vids! Thank you
I appreciate this info, I’ve been chasing around a stuttering/ bogging issue for a while since I’ve replaced the fuel pump with a whole unit, (different style sock) and my car dies at 1/4 tank
Good luck!
Fuel pump went out on me half way through a seven hour drive. Long day... your video helped me troubleshoot it though, thank you.
Mad scientist strikes again good work Jon great video
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Wow very informative! best content I have seen in awhile! I watch plenty of repairs on different vehicles but, Never seen a video so informative and straight to the point. definitely subscribing and don't know why this is the first time for me seeing your work. highly impressed!
Thanks so much Rich, I try my best to help understand how to keep em running!!
Great flipping video brother I just learned A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION!!!!!! THANKS!!!!
+Raymond Grell Awesome man, glad to hear!!
Dude your videos are great quality.
+XbenX0101 thank you for that!!
Experience is king
I appreciate the good information Now I know the 97 Civic trying to buy is gonna be an easy fix
Awesome!
You sound like a low-key ChrisFix.
Great video! Thanks!
That's a great compliment, thank you!
I put a smaller sock with my performance pump and it works fine but it's good to know how it's suppost to go on
Glad I watched this. I just bought a 1990 Civic STD and it's a little boggy sometimes while driving and if I bring the rpms up while sitting still it kinda fluctuates and sounds like it's struggling. I know what I'm doing Saturday...
+Steven Arias awesome!!
Amazing video, really all your content has been a game changer. I’m new to the world of car enthusiasts and just got an 88 ED hatch and your videos have already helped me a ton! Out of curiosity- do you have recommendations for which fuel pump works best for a 4th gen civic?? 🙏🏽💯👍🏽
I usually just grab one from the local auto parts store. I can't remember which brand AutoZone carries but that's generally what I use. Spectra maybe?
Hey great info on civic I'm having trouble getting a 99 to start got spark any tips to check fuel pressure at the rail
Very nice video man 👍👍👍
+Jesus Moya Thanks Jesus!
Excellent vid man!👌
Thanks buddy!
good evening Sir, I have 1989 honda civic lx sedan 1.5 engine with dual points injection, I replaced my distributor, replaced both injectors primary and secondary, replaced sparkplug, cables, fuel filter, delphi fuel pump with the right sock, main fuel pump relay, the car runs good but suddenly spotting or skipping plus loose it power, specially when you are at light, the engine pistons compression is at 140 pounds are the cylinder, I need help figure out what is happening with my car. thank you for your great videos
What's the max amount of tq can those motors handle with stock everything?
excellent video !!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for the inf my friend also my car dies yesterday check main relay and smell bad I change it and the car dozens start the check power to the black and yellow wire no power take the fp out test it direct to batt and run super fast the n car dozen crank no more the green ligh key show out one's in a while I really don't now what else to do I swap ecu and still the same problem do u have any suggestions for me I will appreciate this its crazy issue
Hey Jon, when you go to read the vacuum line off pressure, it's usually a good idea to pinch off the end of the disconnected hose so you're only reading the difference from the fuel pressure regulator and so your idle isn't effected too much by the vacuum leak.
+inspyral02 No it's fine. That's how it is supposed to be read. You're intentionally creating the vacuum leak to raise the idle.
The Honda/Helm's service manual for EK Civics says to disconnect and pinch/clamp the hose when comparing readings. Makes sense since the FPR adjusts fuel pressure based on vacuum and not engine speed, so it's not really necessary to create a vacuum leak, intentional or not. The DC Integra service manual says the same thing, but it might be different for earlier Hondas. Good video nonetheless.
inspyral02 Well sh*t, maybe I've been doing it wrong the whole time. I was taught this way a long time ago and have used it ever since. Next time I test another one I'll try it. Might not be for a while, it had been years since I last tested fuel pressure.
I don't think it would actually have much of an effect on the fuel pressure readings, at least on late model Hondas. It's probably more about preventing unnecessary wear and tear from running with that small vacuum leak, especially since the FPR doesn't really care what RPM you're idling at. Here are the relevant pages from the EK/DC manuals: imgur.com/a/vSpce
+inspyral02 ok, thanks! Learn something new every day! Appreciate that!
I just replaced my fuel pump and followed your other video showing us how to and now new pump is not priming and check engine light will not turn off cranks but won't start,I am getting voltage just not sure how much also got a new main relay
Just wanted to share my experience with the fuel pump relay on my 90 civic. It would start just fine and I would drive to the gas station. After filling up it would not start, no fuel pump sound. I would wait a few minutes, turn the key and it would fire right up. Inside the relay are two separate relays, each with its own plastic cover. When the relay got warm, one of those covers would warp, preventing the relay from closing!!! I removed the plastic cover and haven't had a problem since.
Wow, excellent diagnose. Thanks for sharing that!!
Tested this out on my relay thanks for saving me the trip to oriellys and not to mention the $
Glad to help!
Thanks for helping us👍
Youre welcome!
hey great video, maybe its the same for d16a9 motor? im having little issues to start the engine and when running, some irregular acceleration
Yes, absolutely!
I have to replace the fuel pump on my 90 EF HATCH but the whole process of dropping the gas tank makes me feel like I can't do it, or atleast not by myself. My gas tank consistently shows around a half tank but then acts like it's completely out of gas and I've had this issue for a year. The fuel pump recently started whining the other day when I got up to about 90 miles per hour on the freeway ever since I've been babying it and it doesn't wind anymore but I know the fuel pump needs to be replaced.
It's really not that hard. It's not intimidating at first but actually a really easy job. Try it, you'll be glad you replaced it and the peace of mind is worth it!
You see when someone worked on a car before and notice the street hurry to patch and go style, 😎I'm learning, I changed a lot of things in my Son's 1992 civic" I called him today to finally tell him that it might be the Gas pump and filter,He bought another vehicle to then sell the civic very cheap,,like giving it away, but I took it home , It is a nice looking civic,,And watching your video, Im sure that is the problem.
It happens a ton on these cars. Cheap cars a lot of times equals owners who can't afford much. I get it, but it's not fun having to fix the issues sometimes.
Always great seeing your videos buddy. You are sharp my friend!! How did you gain your knowledge? I had someone do a head gasket on my 91 Si Tahitian Green, getting it back on the road. It was awesome the last few days. The shop also changed the fuel pump and relay so I thought I would be ok. Took it out to go to some body shops as my car needs a driver's side passenger. I pulled into the garage and parked. I decided I wanted to move the car and put the key in the ignition. All the lights went on but it would not turn over. Back to the drawing board buddy! Ugh!
The front driver's side fender and outdoor rear view mirror is cracked. I got the mirror from ebay and am looking for the fender now. I see that there are a lot of after market ones out there.
I've never used an eBay set, but I would be willing to do so.
Very informative. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!
hi,GBH I have a problem similar with with this 90' honda on my 91' lx and will be going for a new fuel pump would you happen to remember the brand you bought or a brand you recommend to replace the old existing pump,and also are you any other social med. sites
Here's the pump kit - amzn.to/2lQ51Qr
I'm on Instagram, same name as my channel here. 👍
I'm having issues with my car now haha Just changed the battery and now after an humid day it won't start... It's freshly built too!! Imma check it up when it gets hotter.
Check the main fuel relay.
Hey bro I got a 90 integra it turns on but bogs and has a solids check engine light on .also doesn’t pass 3k rpms
thank you so much, my 90 sedan went through 2 pumps within a week because i had the wrong sock on it and couldnt figure out why. I guess now its time to pull the tank back out
It's annoying that these companies that make the fuel pump socks have incorrectly built ones that don't fit like OEM.
Seeking Help for 91 CRX Si: I installed a new OEM main relay thinking it would get my car to start up. But, it didn't. When the car is in the ON position (under normal operation), I can hear the main relay click, followed by a secondary click that primes the fuel pump. Right now I am only getting the first click as the CEL goes off, and no secondary click, with no noise coming from the fuel pump.
Apparently the fuel pump is not engaging. I was able to test & verify that voltage is being delivered to the fuel pump. Someone told me it could be a grounding issue, so I checked the ground wire connected to the thermostat housing, which was securely connected.
Any idea if a bad ignition switch could have a direct correlation to the fuel pump not activating? Or is a bad ignition switch and a bad fuel pump two separate issues that may co-exist without being directly related to each other? I do have a Honda Service Manual, which is helpful, but because of my limited experience, I am not able to adequately understand the aspects of diagnosing electrical fuel delivery issues.
I have followed the service manual test step to determine if there is voltage (10V) available when I connect the multimeter's positive probe to the BLU/WHT wire and the negative probe to the BLK wire of the main relay harness connector, then turn the ignition switch to the START position. I am not getting the 10V that the service manual says I should get, but only getting 0.03V. Does this mean the ignition switch could be bad? The engine does crank, it just doesn't start.
I hope the information I have provided is enough for someone who can respond with a possible solution.
I am basically trying to find out the following:
1. Do I have a bad fuel pump only?
2. Do I have a bad fuel pump AND a bad ignition switch?
3. Are the above two issues directly related, or are separate issues that don't necessarily correlate?
Any amount of information & knowledge passed along would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Im having the samw problem it boggs like it feels like its not getting any gas ive replaced injectors fuel filter wires and plugs could it be my fuel pump?
Definitely. Rent the pressure tester from AutoZone and see what your pressure is.
Do you have any videos for 88 honda civic dx hatchback ? Or is the crx basically same ? Because Mine isn't starting anymore 😕
88-91 Civic and crx are essentially all the same for suspension and engine parts.
My 95 honda civic does the one click with the CEL coming on once then turns off but it only clicks once does this mean that the main fuel relay is bad. Someone PLZ confirm ! Im going crazy !!! My civic is a d15b7, 5MT,
The new aftermarket relay i bought was junk. I bought a fuel pressure gauge. It mounts above the filter. I think i bought the adapter from glow shift.Mini gauge was from summit.
What could be the symptoms of the fuel pump strainer falling off? I replaced my fuel pump and once i put everything back together i saw that crush washer thing that holds it on. I didn't know what it went to until now lol
+EFsedan91LX lol, at least you know now! There really shouldn't be any signs because the flow will still be strong. It might start to dirty the fuel filter faster and you may have strained starting of the car. You also may feel like it's running out of fuel at 1/4 tank since the strainer won't be as low into the tank.
Help... I just put an Ultra Street intake mani but it stumbles horrible on low rpm's after a hard pull... Some say bad injectors, others say I need bigger injectors... what fuel pressure should I have? My pump is a 255 Walbro
Might be a gasket not sealed properly.
Hi, great videos you have, very detailed and easy to follow. I’m trying to bring my ‘90 CRXsi back alive after sitting for years. After replacing all fluids, filters, dumping the old gas and putting a fresh gallon in, the car cranks but does not ignite. After a little debugging, I find the Alternator Solenoid fuse blows when turning the ignition to on. If I pull the plug to the fuel pump, it doesn’t blow. Also, the plug shows +12 volts when not connected. Pretty sure it’s the fuel pump, but trying to confirm if it is bad before doing the change. Also would replacing the pump assembly be advice or just the pump/strainer.
Spark is fine? Distributor works fine?
@@GarageBuiltHondas dropped the tank over the weekend and it didn't look good. Pump, hanger, tank was all rusted. The gas that I drained didn't have barely any sentiment and the outside looks clean so didn't think it was that bad. Anyway, put in the order for new tank and parts. Will see after I get everything back in. Your other video on the tank replacement was great. Exactly, what I had to do. Thanks!
Just an update. I got the new tank with new pump and sending unit installed over the weekend. Replaced the blown fuse mentioned above, the hoses looked fine so I re-used those. The car pretty much started right up. Thanks for these videos!
Excellent!
So I was looking up the location of the pcv for my car nd this video popped up. Maybe u could help me. I have a 89 civic hatchback dx with a d15b2 motor.
Tryna smog my car but it wont pass.
It runs rich at 15 mph but it passes at 25 mph. Already changes the coolant sensor nd thermostat but that didnt seem to work. Now my friend is thinking it could be the pcv valve
I don't know sorry. In Texas all EF's don't require smog anymore so I don't ever encounter having to worry about those issues. May want to start with a tune up and possibly a new cat.
Do you have to soldier all fuel pumps? When you replace them because I don't know how to soldier. Is there a fuel pump I can buy that I don't have to soldier plug in?
Probably a stock replacement one. It's very easy to solder, and definitely something you should pick up.
Hi Jon, thank you so much for these videos - they're super helpful! Can you let me know the exact make and model fuel pump that you put in? Have you liked the performance from them?
I prefer this setup now over any others. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MBI5C02/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=jrw2018-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00MBI5C02&linkId=c0f03133167ad6e6e48eb3281280d6f5
@@GarageBuiltHondas does this fit directly in place of stock unit?
Yes
So I bought a 1990 EF hatch and the gas guage doesn't work and it starts sometimes runs smooth and stuff but randomly starts any help the car randomly starts
Do a tune up. Also your gauge cluster of fuel level sending unit might be broke.
I have a ef 91 with a b20b car sometimes cranks sometimes doesnt but i hear the fuel pump sound when turning key
Main fuel relay might be bad.
I had to watch the second part of the red hatch mistory. I will be honest. I haven't watched it yet but I was thinking fuel pressure. I'll watch it now and see if my guess was right from part one...
Hey Jon do you know what hood fits into a 90 Civic hatchback, I want to replace the hood and bumper filler, I'll appreciate your help
+Kevin Martinez All hatch and CRX are interchangeable. No wagon or sedan.
Garage Built Hondas and the bumper filler from a sedan can be cut to fit the hatch? Or just the hatch will fit? Mine a little bend and I wanted to change it, but can't find a Hatchback here in Mexico in good condition
+Kevin Martinez Hatchback only, the sedan is flat because they have a small grill.
I changed fuel pump with new, replaced the relay under dash, replaced fuel filter and still am having it die intermittently and then not starting after. Relay clicks and fuel pump hums. Any ideas?
Ignition switch possibly
Hey bud, what would be a good fuel pump to run on my 88 dx b16a swap. My fuel pump went bad
Walbro 255
My crx ECU fuse blows as soon as i turn the key to the ON position. i tried 2 ecu's and 2 diff main relays, blew a lot of 15a ecu fuses in the process, can't find out whats wrong...
Sounds like there's a short in the wiring somewhat unfortunate.
@@GarageBuiltHondas thank you for the reply man!
I b swapped my ef with a conversion harness from mono tech. I was teaching someone to drive manual and they stalled. It wouldn’t turn on until after 2-4 key turns and giving it a bit of gas. Code 16 came up then went into limp mode, I turned it off then back on and the code was gone. It’s happened a few times. Mostly when running hot but never becomes a constant issue where I can’t drive the car. It always “goes back to normal”
Try a new main fuel relay. Kind of sounds like the issue.
@@GarageBuiltHondas thank you I’ll try it out!!!
Are those Bbs RZ wheels, did you have to bore wheels to fit hub?
No idea. This was pay for work I did to someone's car.
I need help the carborator drowns with gas, what can i do?
Thanks for this video! I checked my fuel pump pressure and it read at around 28 psi. Disconnecting the regulator hose and the psi went to 38 psi. Would this be the reason for stumbling during acceleration in my 90 civic ex with only 90xxx miles?
Possibly especially if you can't verify if the pump is old.
@@GarageBuiltHondas thanks man
YW
@@GarageBuiltHondas so I replaced my fuel pump, regulator, filter, relay and tank and i still have only 28psi. Any idea why? Its running like I didn't replace anything.
Having issues with my 89 civic will check filter and pump
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Just got a tube up on my 86 prelude so I changed the fuel filter cuz it was hesitating till it hit 2 k well it say fir a while and the battery went dead and it won’t start I spay starting fluid it runs a d I hear a clicking in the dash where the relay is located so it may or may not still be working but the fuel pump still not working
U check the fuel pump fuse?
@@bonthor7515 replaced fuel pump runs like new added 4oz of marvels mystery oil into gas too never ran better cleaned throttle body and the pcv valve too
I having issues with my fuel pump not priming it was and now it doesn’t and I change the main relay for a new one and it worked and agin it stop priming ?
Pump might need replacing.
Thanks 🙏. I just got a new pump last night just in case .
Who made the carbon fiber gauge cluster trim? I made a handful of them for the 90-91 back in the day, (Ten By Ten Custom Carbon) but never saw anyone else producing that part. Looks good!
I'm unsure. This was a friend's car.
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Does it matter how much LPH the new fuel pump has?
Like mine is fucked up i guess on my 99 integra type r. Which do you recommend? And whats the minimum LPH?
Any new replacement will be fine. I've been using some Denso ones from autozone lately and finding thr ones with a whole new assembly. You could upgrade to a Walbro which is one of the best. The lph won't matter, your ecu, rail, injectors, and regulator will only allow the proper amount. The larger lph that some support is only if you upgrade and need the additional fuel, then your pump csn support the demand.
Is there a way to test the fuel pressure with the car cranking but not starting?
Once you turn the key and the pump kicks on, you're gauge should automatically tell you where it's sitting. It'll give you an idea on how the pump is doing.
I'm having the same problem with bogging down at more than 50 percent throttle. My motor is a d15b2 dpfi. I plan on doing a d16z6 swap but I'm just trying to get my current motor to run right first so that I can drive the car and move it if need be. I pulled my O2 and it was white. Will try a fuel filter and pump replacement since the z6 will need them anyways. My relay seems fine and my pump primes, but I haven't tested the voltage yet.
+Alex Kohlman try to do this fuel pressure test. It will definitely let you know how well your pump is working.
Thanks for your quality content!
+Alex Kohlman thanks for supporting and taking the time to comment, it means a lot!
Did we ever figure out why this car was bogging out im having the same issue my distributor and fuel filter are new and I have a check engine light. I'm throwing a code 1 code 17 and a code 20
It's in this video.
Would u have any idea why my 1989 Civic Dx is only getting 120 miles per full tank? Already changed the fuel filter and air filter. 😭😭
Stuck injector. Might need new plugs and wires, maybe a new cap and rotor also. Those items can help with an efficient burn.
@@GarageBuiltHondas I’ll take a look at all that, thank u🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
How much should it be at when you put it on the first key before turning it on ?
I don't recall, it's in the video.
Thanks for the tips trying to fix my car. What wheels are those on your track car?
Been forever since I've seen this video. What color are they?
@@GarageBuiltHondas bronze? Its shown at 7:14
Traklite Gear. They've been discontinued a long time. I'm unsure if Traklite even makes wheels anymore
hey, brilliant video, my civic b16a1, have been stoped for 15 years, and cant make the engine run (yet), can i measure the fuel pressure without having the car running?
Hopefully the fuel lines aren't clogged from sitting for so long. You can get fuel pressure without it running though
@@GarageBuiltHondas ok, any way dont ear the fuel Pump working, gonna mesure volts and then Change fuel pump. Thx for the vídeo, great tutorial, and huge tips. Up, yp
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So my fuel pump keeps running after turning the key. After a few seconds it gets louder. Swapped pump and relay, still same thing. After a few minutes of driving, it quites down. Sitting a t a red light it may make some noise. Pushing too much fuel.. Occasional noise. Old pump had over 300K on it anyway. Pressure regulator not working correctly? Or some wiring issue? Bad injector? No problem driving, runs fine.. just noisy pump, seems to idle high. Any comment appreciated. Don't want to stress out new pump.
new one seems to pulse with sound when cold, after driving and reaching operating temp seems to quiet down.
What kind of pump? Cheap generic replacement? I recently bought a running parts car and the fuel pump always kind of whines and makes noise. It's the first I've experienced like this. I haven't had issues with it, but I wonder if it's just defective and loud. Have you tested the pressure?
I put a new fuel pump not too long ago and it still does the same thing as you're describing where you give it gas and it kind of boggles and it doesn't turn off or stop it just you let go of the gas and then you push it again and it's back to normal what do you think it is do I need to put another fuel pump on there maybe the one I bought is defective
Maybe the filter is sitting incorrectly.
@@GarageBuiltHondas like the strainer that goes in the tank
@@GarageBuiltHondas I also just tested the fuel pump and I'm reading between 40 to 50 psi with out the pressure regulator vacuum line
Possibly.
Good video man. Id suggest getting a Harbor freight tester they are only $20 and mine always worked good.
+Kyle Govan I think I'll get one for that price! It'll be a good tool to have in case I ever want to use one. I rarely use them and the rental option is nice.
Garage Built Hondas. Yeah I think it's worth it. You don't know when you'll need it and when you do you might not have the $ for the rental. Hypothetically.
I want to get a Walboro 190lph. I wasn't sure if the stock fuel rail could handle it but it seems fine after seeing you have used a 255lph.
+Kyle Govan true. 👍
+Kyle Govan I've had no problems at all, and most people go with this lph pump. It's great for future mods too as you'll be set up already.
I have same problem on my 1990 Ef I replaced pump and fpr but still have same problem... stumbling on acceleration past 50% throttle.. ecu bad maybe ? Or injectors on dual point system . Fuel pressure read at 44psi with fpr vacuum line detached any thoughts ??
No idea. May need to check spark and ignition related items.
@@GarageBuiltHondas recently did spark plugs, distributor, starter and I had a shop recently put on a new cat and ever since then car ran good for about a week and then it died on freeway with check engine light turning on while power was lost then stalled.
The car still runs but it will eventually die while idling after reaching operating temp
What's the light on for?
U ever figure the problem out?
Hey Man, got a quick question I can't find an answer to.
I Have a 92 prelude, It's been sitting for 7 years and has over a half tank, engines out, is there a way to make the fuel pump continuously run without the car running? I want to pump it out with the fuel pump like you can do with a Mazda diagnostic port and a paper clip. Getting a fuel pump pig tail and make it run off a battery is the only way I've found so far.
Why not just drain it? Have you checked for a plug on the bottom of the tank?
@@GarageBuiltHondas It's more then 5 gallons and I only have a 5 gallon bucket. I'm working in my aunts 2nd house garage, so I can't have any spills of any kind.
I'm not sure then. You can experiment with applying power and trying to get it to pump. Hopefully the gas isn't thick and has not clogged the fuel lines.
Going trough this now with my y49 she hesitates on acceleration and when I took the vac line off the regulator it didn't even spike just like a line lol but will that pump and sock work for a crx aswell
Just buy a pump and strainer for your model whenever you order it.
@@GarageBuiltHondas im.getting it now that 255 Quantum pump and it comes with the fuel sock
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My fuel pressure is good, but if I turn the key on ON and don’t start it, the pump primes to about 35psi but immediately looses it and drop to 0. Is that normal?
It should slowly drop, not abruptly.
Good video
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@@GarageBuiltHondas I got the crx running good finally turned out the td41u dizzy is the one I needed the one I bought off Amazon wasn't working no spark so I bought another one and it fired right up did my fuel pump as well all stuff I have learned from your channel thanks for the great Honda channel
I have same problem i change the sparkplug, htw, fuel filter, fuel pump and still sputtering when i rev it stalled and loss power but when i reverse it wont sputter or misfire it runs smooth but when i get to 1st to 2nd gear it sputtering
What was your fuel pressure?
@@GarageBuiltHondas no it wasnt the fuel pressure i already check it the only thing i didnt replace as of now is the fitv and the old gasoline
When you pulled the fuel pump , it’s missing the rubber insert that sits under the pump and above the fuel pump bracket , the orientation is correct as that’s only way it can go on there is a simple that strainer aka the sock sits in .
Well unless the strainer is not oem I suppose could be the wrong orientation like you mentioned . I just replaced my fuel pump and strainer on my 88 crx si as it was bogging and stalling when coming to a stop . Turned out to be a bad fuel pump strainer was wrong one plus it was not attached properly , pump was good but replaced with a new one since I was in there and a new oem strainer. Also mine had a drain plug on the fuel tank so helped a lot and got a lot of sediments and deposits out .
I've noticed the aftermarket fuel pumps don't fit well usually with the rubber insert unfortunately and it's pretty irritating. I've had luck with a handful of aftermarket ones doing just fine though thankfully too! I wish all tank had the drain nut on the bottom.
would you happen to know where to get the strainer or if there is a copy in another brand? i cant find the airtex fs121
Unfortunately I do not. Check your local parts store. I'm sure there's a newer brand replacement.
@@GarageBuiltHondas do you think its the same one used in the 1988 crx and up
Yes. The CRX and Civic hatch have the same setup. I'm unsure if the sedan is the same and the wagon is probably different by itself.
@@GarageBuiltHondas oh okay i looked up fuel pump strainer for 1988 and there it was
Hi there, I have 89 Civic Ef. My problem is when the fuel tank is full, it run fine. But, when fuel inside the tank drop almost empty( about quarter ) it doest run.. It's like no fuel pump into the engine. I bring it to a mechanic, even they can't solve the problem. Any suggestions.? Tq.
The fuel pump strainer is either the incorrect one or isn't in the pump anymore. Common issue is people put the wrong one on the pump when replacing it.
@@GarageBuiltHondas tq for ur reply sir.
You're welcome
Would my fuel pump still prime if the relay is bad
No
my crx had this same issue thats crazy
hey man, i'm trying to check my Injectors right now, and am i'm wondering if i need to depressurize the fuel sytem prior?
Remove the gas cap, it'll help. You can also remove the fuel return line coming off the pressure regulator.
@@GarageBuiltHondas nice i disconnected the fuel line POST filter and it didn't seem to help. i'll try that now. Keep it up man, I love these vids and the EF community is alive and well
@@GarageBuiltHondas yeah no luck...i wonder if the rings being damaged eroded (my suspicion) is why they won't pull.... any other suggestions would be ace. thanks my man!
Won't pull?
Okay I have a 1989 Honda Civic hatchback SI and I have a 1991 Honda CRX you think the tank from the 1991 Honda CRX feet in 89 Honda civic hatchback SI
It's possible, but it might be slightly different. Look around online, find one for sale and see if they list that it fits both models.
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If you run around all the time on an empty tank your fuel pump will be running hot and most likely will fail sooner. I try and run at least a 1/4 tank of fuel to help cool the pump.
Facts! I keep mine between 1/4-1/2 at the minimum. I have a 94 Civic....$12 will take me from empty to half a tank and if I'm ever strapped and can't put at least $10 in it, I sit my ass down lol
Been trying to fix a P0172 code in my 2006 Honda Accord for some time now. Very frustrating.
I just looked that up. Sounds like a pain. Anything modified or all stock?
I'm the original owner. Had the USDM swapped out for a JDM last year. A little while after I installed an HPS short ram intake. Don't know if that is what started throwing the code but I ended up putting the stock intake back on because my mechanic wouldn't work on it with the aftermarket intake still on.
I cleaned the mass airflow sensor, reset the ECU and drive the car almost a hundred miles. Check engine light came back on. Did the same process after changing the plugs, O2/1, 02/2, and mass airflow. No luck.
I got a problem where I try to start my 93 Honda Civic and the fuel pump takes about 10mins to prime idk why it takes long
Old parts probably.
@@GarageBuiltHondas okay I’ll check it out I gotten the Honda not to long ago thanks for replying back
When the relay clicks twice that means it's 100% good right?
Yes
Need help my car stalls when it’s about reach normal temperature. I changed fuel filter , changed spark plug, changed fuel pump relay, when I switch on I hear fuel pump prime, clean the injectors, adjusted the valves, when the car stalls after 20 seconds I start it it’s fine then stalls again after few minuites. I’ll be checking fuel pressure soon. I’ll keep you update on that also I ordered new ignition coil I’ll also update you on that. The compression are all good .
Check the cat, might be clogged.
I don’t have a cat
Straight pipe from down pipe to the muffler
I just just changed the fuel pump relay, I’ll change the fuel pump next and ignition coil. I’ll keep you updated. Thanks
question If my fuel gauge is on half tank all the time would this be the issue?
You probably have a broken float or that portion of the cluster is broken.
thanks man Ill check it out
I replace my fuel pump now when i turn on the ignition position the fuel pump sounds harder & works fine but under the car you can smell a lil of gasoline but cant see any leack
Did you spill any gas when changing it?
@@GarageBuiltHondas just a lil
@@luciferjr4204 go drive it. See if there are any leaks after.
@@GarageBuiltHondasalright thanks man
Love it
Thanks Zack!
I've got a 91 Civic Si and am having trouble getting up, since bought it's got a new fuel filter and pump but anytime I give it any gas the rpm drops. Is it a throttle sensor I need?
Any CEL'S?
@@GarageBuiltHondas after running for a bit it comes on
Did u ever get this fix? And wat was the problem?
@@bonthor7515 yeah it was missing a fuel regulator or something like that, I just end up putting a screw in there to fix it.
@@galiks3908 putting a screw in where?