The Man Who Changed Journalism
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Johnny Depp nailed all those little subtle quirks about Hunter S. Thomson
They got high as a kite together when Hunter was alive. It's no surprise Depp knew him so well.
I think he was just high
Depp lived for months in Thompson's basement while conducting character study. Time and effort well spent.
@@mikitz he lived with him in his ranch in Colorado
yeah, when he was still a good actor, before he fell in love with burton
"too weird to live to rare to die" Hunter s Thompson
NoEMogjii Oh&c too*
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“When the Going gets Weird, the Weird turn Pro.”
“If you’re gonna be crazy, you better get paid for it, otherwise you’ll be locked up.”
I watched fear and loathing in Las Vegas and I'm in the process of reading the book rn, I find myself developing a fascination and respect for Thompson and it is a shame he killed himself, but not really that surprising when you learn about who he was as a person
This might be your best video yet. So, so interesting.
Writing on Games good thing you used that comma ;^)
As a journalist, and intense lover of HST, I believe you really shouldn't try to style journalism the way Thompson did, unless you're doing column-writing or the like (and even then you still need to have real facts, not fiction). There's nothing wrong with objective journalism, it shows that you trust the reader to be able to make their own judgement without you spoon-feeding them opinions. It's okay to have style and rhythm and literary qualities to journalism (hell, it's encouraged if you do it right), but don't let it ever get in the way of doing your job: telling the facts.
No journalism is objective. The facts you report on might be objective, but your perception of them, the way you cover them, the way you choose to cover some and ignore others, the way you apply them to the larger picture, and so on are always going to be ENTIRELY subjective. And that fact IS objective.
dildonius that might have been the most enlightening thing I’ve read in the past 5 years. I had the totally opposite opinion and you my good sir just changed it. Thank you so much
To quote Hunter S. Thompson himself: “You can’t be objective about Nixon.”
This was in response to some saying he’s biased against Nixon and isn’t practicing objective journalism.
The truth is, people don’t give a shit about facts. Give them a story that makes them care about something. That’s the only way to do effective journalism in my view. Therefore, you need to use some subjective storytelling methods to get the job done.
Thank you.
As much as I respect the Hell out of Hunter S. Thompson and his place in our history, is the subjective form of journalism that he helped pioneer something we need more than ever now... or something we have way too much in abundance now?
I'd say we have it way too much in abundance nowadays.
The thing is, it's not Thompson's type of journalism that's open about being objective. Now we have a majority of journalism being subjective, but framed as objective.
@@LordVader1094
Yup. Look at the BBC and their insistance that they are being objective. It's clear to everyone but themselves.
Subjective journalism makes far more sense than “objective” journalism. No one is actually objective. People insert their ideas through multiple means wether it be what story they cover, how it is framed or when it is discussed. Stories are decided by the wealthy who own media corporations. Chomsky describes in manufacturing consent. You don’t even need to tell a journalist what to do; they just hire ones they know will say the right the thing. So would you rather try and have an “objective” journalist launder their opinion or have them come right out and say what they mean? There is no objective journalist, historian, or anything else. The best you could hope for is a scientist is objective and even that hasn’t always happened.
Considering the biases and spin of modern media. No...I'd say the went too far. You can't trust the modern media to tell the truth any more. Or at least their "truth."
Anything that gets hunter s Thompson name out there is good in my book
It's already out there, and anyone who knows anything about pop-culture or history has heard his name.
Ossi Muurinen that isn’t necessarily true, there are a lot of millennials who know a good deal about pop culture but don’t know hunter
Payton King damn near every person my age knows who Hunter S. Thompson is, so no. That is not really the case.
dildonius How old are you? Because I am yet to meet another person my age who knows about hunter s thompson.
The book,and movie,are full fiction events and metaphors
Pretty much all the drug experiences(confirmed by Thompson)are exaggerated and meant to represent something else entirely then just being on a psychoactive substance
Most people who read or watch the movie get the false impression that it's suppose to represent a drug binge,when in reality some the drugs depicted were completely fabricated,such as the famous "Adrinachrome" Even be which was confirmed by Thompson to be completely made up
The trips he described were not meant to be taken literary,because they were a work of fiction writing
But people watch the movie and think that's the actual effects and experiences of Thompson,which again were highly exaggerated.
My late grandfather (1934-2014) recommended Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72. A great book, I love it. Hunter was a truth teller and a great journalist. I've also read The Great Shark Hunt, and own Hell's Angels, which I plan to get to soon.
Did you read it?
@@sjattemptstodraw7937 Yes I have
Fear and loathing in Las Vegas is the kind of film where nothing makes sense but I'm glad that it doesn't. Maybe it's not supposed to make sense.
Oh it makes a lot of sense, if you share some of the experiences of Hunter
@@rolux4853 i agree with this guy, gives a lot of perspective of the death of the counter culture movement aswell as the conservative arms race that started in the 70's, following through y2k. Aswell as inherent human nature, but that stuff is just depressing
This was great, makes me want to immediately reread Fear & Loathing
I remember reading fear and loathing in Las Vegas in high school when my speech class teacher suggested from than on I was hooked to him. I think some forget that when it came to a lot of his other works he put you in his seat and showed you the unclean world he lived in. You look at his coverage of the campaign trail of 72 and while you get all the insanity that comes seating shotgun with him on the trail he also brought the facts and numbers as well.
Great video! How about making a video about Monty Python? Would love to finally see a good essay of them, because so far youtubers have completely skipped the Beatles of comedy.
I was thinking about this and an interesting thing about both Monty Python and the Beatles, is the way they use knowledge. Because they use the same obscure stuff, but in different ways.
Monty Python, take information such as Freud or something and make it completely meaningless, by putting it in something like The Freud beauty contest, it's so unnecessary but it helps with the bizzare surrealism of their world. They take something and make it about nothing but keep it noticeable. They show 'nothing' 'publically'.
The Beatles however, and I'm a McLennon, just as a warning, is that they take the same sort of information, such as The Hyacinths that sprouted after Apollo's boyfriend died in Greek mythology, and make it about themselves. To say as a start, the Paul is dead thing was created by the boys themselves as a bit of fun and was partly inspired by the JFK conspiracy theory Paul was interested in, but being the Beatles, they thought how can we be genius about this. So because Paul's side-ho 'boyfriend' Tara Browne died in a car accident the summer before, and because of Paul's Apollo 'God of Beauty, Music and Art'-ness they brought in the Greek myth. Therefore taking something important, and making it meaningful and about themselves, keeping it hidden from 'basically' everyone. They show 'everything' 'secretly'.
Both Monty Python and The Beatles are both bizarre pieces of performance art that came out of this really specific time period. And it's just so interesting how they don't really feel like what they are supposed to be, either 'comedy' or 'band' they just feel surreal.
@@amyritchie8510 shit, you should make a video on this
Saying monty python are the Beatles of comedy is an insult to the pythons
this movie is like, Scarface for hippies. one introdduces you to the gangster andd money side of ddrugs, and the other introduces you to the psychoactive and imaginative side of ddrugs
I’m always glad to see other people’s thoughts on my favorite person
What Hunter didn't understand is that objective journalism is valuable because it gives us a goal to aim to aim for. Is it possible for a journalist to ever be entirely objective? No, of course not. But by trying to be objective you can't help but become aware of what you're own biases are. And as you become aware of your own biases, you start asking questions that never would've occurred to you otherwise. Since thought-provoking journalism depends on asking question that no one has yet thought to ask, objective journalism is the most fertile breeding ground for truly original and thought-provoking journalism.
Excellent video, really nicely put together!
I had no idea you did a video on my favorite! This a real great one, I love it:
This was incredible. Thank you
this is very well done and you should feel good about it!
i love how you brought up ECT. thank you :)
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I loved Thompson for a decade but since, I've seen his humanity - in all its ugliness. We live, we die, he made it count, he danced.
Bro, I've been watching your videos for four years and finished community college and, now attending university. Thanks for your content and dope essays. - Hails from South Central, Ca. /m/,
Love it. Thanks so much!
picking up the ice from the grass and putting it in his drink. what a legend
Hunter Thompson's book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is just incredible. It spoke to me so much. It was great that it was Terry Gilliam who ended up directing the film of the book and he co-wrote the screenplay, basically just taking everything from the book. Johnny Depp is the only person who could play Hunter and he did it perfectly. Also Benico Del Toro was great as Doctor Gonzo.
The creative nonfiction aspect is relevant to two specific films I've been thinking about: The big short and Mr. Holmes. Essentially, both films are about facts being manipulated for the purpose of entertainment through the cinematic medium. Mr Holmes has such an interesting premise. A 93 year old Sherlock tries to remember a specific event so he can write the narrative truthfully, opposed to the exaggerated version written by Watson.
The big short uses a self aware structure to highlight a string of events that led to a fortunate group of people who benefited from the housing crash of 2008. Facts are distorted, rearranged and repurposed, all while characters expose the fictional construction of the narrative.
The paradox of fiction is that it uses lies to reveal truth.
I love these videos keep it up with the amazing content
The point of "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas":
"The American Dream" (tm) = A bill of goods.
Hear I am, a fan of your horror movie coverage. I recently got into the idea of doing gonzo journalism and here you. Godspeed👏
killer video man like the way u break the toxic down keep up Tue great work
I have all of his books except for 1. Great writer. Great mind even if he did have his downfalls like all of us do. The man may have been somewhat part of the system but he sure as hell made note he hated it to the core. Really informative books. Including ( Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72 ) and ( Generation of Swine ).
Fantastic video, in all regards.
The first time I watched this movie I was tripping tf out so after watching it again sober and then this review I have such huge respect for this movie.
Subbed HARD! lol =) Great Video Sir..
thanks for keeping his legacy alive
The gun thing !!! He is one of a kind
6:16 girl is doing Elane's dance from Seinfield.
journalism was a cool class waaay back in the day. very introspective, almost like a pre-psycology class
and he didn't need patreons to help out. He earned it.
You make it sound as if Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is almost a random collection of rambling thoughts, while it may appear to be so at first glance it is actually a very tightly constructed text which contains more brilliant comedic lines than almost any text I've ever read. The writing style of Fear and Loathing is supreme, it's impossible to emulate and surely one of the greatest books written in the 20th century.
4:02 It is important!
Because they explaning the hippy culture. A hole generation directed by a peasefull man called timothy leary. This movie explain so much about society and that drugs aren' t more crazy that our "new" culture.
I know that it is a year later, but to be honest, HST was kind of resentful towards the Hippie movement and drug use during the writing of FaLiLV. He wrote a genuinly interesting perspective, especially since he was present in the movement and was able to see its downfall.
For your Q&A: 1, What do you think Far Cry 3 did that Ubisoft cant replicate. 2, What are your thoughts on EA's announcement of a Battlefield TV, if they go throught with it what do think the format will be? Half hour shorts, standalone seasons in different countries and time with different tones ( do you think it will be serious like Saving Private Ryan or a drama like The Last Ship, or do you think it will be a comedy like the shorts in Bad Company? Do you think they will use the show to setup the games or vice versea?
CAN YOU HEAR ME?!?
We need Hunter now more than ever.
I wish Hunter was here right now savaging Da Ronald, eviscerating him daily with the wrecking ball/cannon blast that was his exceptional, American Treasure-ist writing. “The Pen is Mightier than the Sword.”
holy shit i wasn't expecting to see ricky and elliot here
This is still my favorite movie
4:22 you say distorting the nature between fact and fiction but the warped face of the lady represents the very real effects of lsd when you trip that’s what happens
What is the name of the song or beat used in the second half of the video? This was a great explanation of Fear and Loathing.
The one thing that you can definitely admire about Hunter S Thompson was that he definitely lived life on his own terms. He didn't hide who he was, or what he did or what he was on or taking. He marched to the best of his own drum, and he didn't give a shit about what anyone said about it. He did what he wanted when he wanted. And his good friend and neighbor at one time, the great Jack Nicholson adored his friend as well as being scared shitless at times by him. He was a true pioneer, you name it, he did it. No matter how insane it may have been.
This movie is definitely a guilty pleasure of mine. I realize that it's supposed to be taken seriously, but I laugh my ass off everytime. Johnny Depp and Benecio Del Toro have great chemistry and both are way over the top. Which in truth was Hunter S. Thompson through and through. He was literally insane. Depp stayed with him for awhile at his home to get his character right. And they bonded so greatly that they became very good friends. Depp recalls all the guns he shit, all the shit that they blew up. Funny he didn't mention anything about any drug use. As Hunter S. Thompson had a Dailey scheduled regimen of his drug and booze on ice. Along with his cocaine, and pot, and whatever else may cross his hands on a daily basis. So Depp mentioned all the guns and explosions they embarked on, but didn't mention a word about doing any cocaine or anything. Okay. In the end when Thompson died of a self inflicted gunshot (Suicide), Depp had a 3 million dollar party and fireworks extravaganza to honor his good friend and it was Depp who fired his ashes out of a cannon after he was cremated. As Thompson had wanted. There wasn't any mention of cocaine or drugs at that party either. Okay... 😂😂😂
"He who makes a beast out of himself.. gets rid of the pain of being a man"-YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
CAUGHT HERE IN A FIERY BLAZE!
Excellent video, deserves way more views
The narrator is the impersonation of this letter æ
You could say Orwell, Capote and Hemmingway invented "new journalism/gonzo" but it was only Hunter S. Thompson who made the stories about himself and his wild parting habits (Hemmingway did a bit of that in his books of fiction). Plus, you could say he helped push fake news as he would write BS and pretend that it was just satire. You could say he was an amusing writer but not a good writer of journalism.
buy the ticket, take the ride.
this video is great Hunter s. Thompson is my favorite writer and i love when ever someone brings him or his work to light showing more people his work.
Hunter s Thompson helped make things like the legalization of pot because of his writing
I am a huge HST fan. I recognise this video is about his impact on journalism and it raises many valid points. However, I think its important to note that a significant theme of Fear and Loathing (and a lot of HST's other work) is totally neglected here - the American Dream.... it isn't mentioned here (or did I miss it?) and is a core component of the work, which he explores via a number of methods and means.....
neat
should i post my questions under this video or the next one?
thx
At what time will your next vid be?
Anyone notice that Nancy and Kenyon look like Emma Watson and a Tom Hanks and channing Tatum hybrid respectively
Very fucking interesting!
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There's nobody that can pull off activist journalism anymore.
hey, i like this.
Roman aclef. I need to remember that word
when you speak its like you go from a North American accent to English accent at least in this video
sou D's like your saying spedman instead of steadman
maybe your just not being more specific then this.
but thomson was more talking about the past when he mentioned the drug he used. like in a background kind of way he explained ehat they did as mentioning them by proxy. and was a hippie durring the 1960s, he even described what is was like back then in sanfransisco.
no L in Capote
Phillip DeFranco- Neutral
Lolwut
And yes journalism is stories told from journalists points of view no doubt. But even though yes, HST did invent his own kind of journalism, and yes, some was genius. But as far as a fully functioning mind and a point of view from a journalist, as much as I respect him and some of his work, the point of view you were sometimes getting were the words of a mostly high, crazy, and unpredictable madman. And I don't say this to offend because I loved the guy, I say it because I have read and seen so many interviews and documentaries on him, hearing him talk and even his body language, and especially the true stories from ppl very close to HTS, it's just really truly who he was.
Lil Wayne payed homage to Gonzo with no worries video.
Dr Doc no. Just...no.
dildonius look me in my fave. I ain't got no woies. I ain't got no woies
Dr Doc that's more of an insult to HST than it is anything else.
dildonius I don't think so man. That's his personality type. He says he isn't worried about anything but inside the need for change is killing him. That's why the substance abuse. He was like a teenager who never grew up
Dr Doc then you know precisely fuck all about HST
The Kentucky derby really is decadent and depraved
Man iv done so many drugs while fear and loathing was on, Honest to god tho, most of societys problems would be gone if everyone just did hella drugs like that shit is lit as fuck, like none of the hard drugs but like weed, acid, shrooms, ketamine, cocain, alcky, DXM, molly like what more niggas need then that. The trippy life is the life to live people, WAKE UP!!!
He changed journalism -- hopefully temporarily -- for the worse.
There is no guarantee that of ethicality or honesty.
The better example of such journalism is Norman Mailer, but with him one also got legitimate journalism.
"Anthem-phetamine"? What the hell is that?
You should do a video on natural born killers!
He sais Ralph Spedmen nőt Steadmen.
Funny.
Gonzo all the way!
When you write on a subject you studied in person objectively you are saying this is the truth which is essentially im the mouth of god but when you do it subjectively you show your position which can be bad for the mindless looking for a movie to be in which is an overwhelming amount but its still essentially but like everything moderation is important. Thats the problem today its all emotional based journalism even the seemingly objective pieces are just in disguise.
Oh wait should have finished the video you said all that ha well most excellent job friend
Shit is GONZO AS FOOK
You guys know he used to make and sell snuff films?
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allegedly
Love this dude but why put my Samoan people so low ???lol still love the movie tho ..
Ca-Poe-Tee*
never ever in my life did i think id ever hear casey neistat be compared to fucking hunter s thompson lmfaoooooo
The pre-gonzo work was better. He isn’t so fixated on his own myth or sustaining it.
The film itself is not good. Watch it and all you get are two scenes repeated over and over: we’re about to get wrecked, we’re wrecked. Thankfully the wave speech hits the right notes.
How does it lack substance?
While I agree that Hunter Thompson is one of the most important literary figures of the 20th Century (Fear and Loathing is one of my all time favorite books), I believe he began the decline of decline of journalism as a serious profession. Obviously no style of journalism is ever truly objective, but that doesn't mean that it's futile to try and paint a balanced and neutral picture. The style of journalism that Thompson helped create gives the reader the burden of triangulating the news and filtering whats true and whats not true, a burden which I don't think many people take seriously. Walter Cronkite in Thompson's era at least made the effort to report the news in a balanced way in order to appeal to, and inform, as broad a range of people as possible. Today, we have garbage from the left and the right, TYT, Fox News, Alex Jones, VICE, AJ, all of which practice Thompson's brand of subjectivity even while deluding their audience and themselves into believing they are being objective. I can't help but think that at least part of Thompson's legacy is contributing to the toxic political environment that we find ourselves in today.
Matt P the problem isn't so much that there is biased or opinionated journalism, I think. I believe the problem is that it's taken as truth by too many people and is distributed to the masses by large media sources with that intent. While also not being balanced out by enough objective journalism. The impression I get is that Thompson wrote with the intent that his work would be read with the understanding that it was his personal opinion and not some kind indisputable fact, unlike basically all the news we get now. I think too many people also just want to be told what to think
Not enough people trust their own reasoning processes and instincts, and instead rely on other perspectives to generate their view for them. Manufactured opinions and an unwillingness to question them and trust oneself is a great problem of today.
No journalism is objective. The facts you report on might be objective, but your perception of them, the way you cover them, the way you choose to cover some and ignore others, the way you apply them to the larger picture, and so on are always going to be ENTIRELY subjective. And that fact IS objective. HST was just one of the first to not pretend that acting like Walter Cronkite meant you were presenting an entirely unbiased account and were entirely objective. The more you understand humanity and journalism, the more you will understand that "unbiased" journalism never existed.
Also, it definitely sounds like you havent actually read any of his work besides Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
William Randolph Hearst has more influence on today's form of journalism than anybody else. Given that true journalists rarely exist anymore.
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isn't most of today's "news" just gonzo journalism?
There is no Gonzo. Only realizing that we are biased human beings and to what extent will we realize it.
joe BONES and how open you are about it.
kamalindsey most journalists aren’t even interested in the topics they write about, especially in the gaming journalism sector.
kamalindsey I dont think any of those words mean what you think they mean
Don't stop here it's bat country
How dare you
You are assuming that journalist don't manipulate the narrative on purpose
Gaming journalism desperatly needs a game changer like hunter s Thompson
Isak Wennstig more like actual gamers that write for them
As soon as somebody says "a truth", as if there were several, you know that they are speaking postmodern bullshit. But n a way, Thomson paved the way for the hacky "opinion piece" troll click-bait shit that we see everywhere, didn't he?