Mobility Scooter Electric Brake Fault finding & Repair Part 1
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- A simple way to trace a faulty electric brake on a Shoprider Mobility Scooter with just a multimeter. No fancy programmers required.
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Love your instructional style and accent, it looks like to enjoy your job, please make more videos
Thank you for your video and your advice. I have managed to get my wife's scooter gong again. You are a gentleman.
Brilliant video. Very informative. Thank you for taking the time to do it 👍
Thank you, just the explanation I needed.
Very clear, helped me find the issue with the scooter not working, its great you supply the parts also. Cheers 👍🏻
I work with mobility equipment as a hobby here in the US and have found it very useful to apply some grease on the axle/key area before putting the wheels back on. Some scooters actually "click" when riding but the grease quiets them down.
Mine does that. Is it the key clicking?
@@arconeagain More than likely yes. Remove the rear wheels and apply some good high temp wheel bearing grease to the axle & key.
Hi I have a kymco foru mobility scooter had no batteries on ot for about 6 weeks. Brought two new batteries put them on and everything comes on on the control panel even the key is switched off is there a reset or something I can try thanks
We have a Go Go Elite Sport scooter The brake applies intermittently when travelling at maximum speed it gives a fault signal of Five Bleeps .
Yah. def make sure the brake release lecers are in correct position.
Purchased a used Pride GoGo scooter, seems to be in decent used condition. Scooter runs as supposed to when lever in Drive position. I do notice that when the lever is in Drive, you can manually push it as when you have it in the Neutral position. The brake does not engage when in Drive and stationary, or when the scooter is off and in Drive. Is there an adjustment possible? Note: I also noticed that I unable to take the wheel nut off on the rear back side - it spins.
On my scooter the same as the one in this film it lets the brake of but instantly reapplies it?
My tga vita has started to roll bk on hills while waiting for traffic to clear is this the brake please
Had a really nice chat with you today about this Video you said you would like to help, but you would need to see a picture of scooter because I had no idea of the name of manufacture. Firstly thankyou very much your informative Videos. I will send pictures to your e-mail address.
Good evening sir ,love your videos.I am trying to find brushes for a rascal 850.would you know if there is a generic size or can I only use brushes intended for the scooter?once again I've found your videos helpful ..the wiring for the lights etc was so twisted I thought I'd never sort it .. jy.....
www.nithsdale-wheelchairs.com/prods/10855/pair-of-shoprider-brush-units-nith-711.html
Thank you for the video very useful. I have a rascal 850 and it was recently taken out during rainfall and now it had a constant beep, any clue that can help me sort it out as just waiting for it to dry out and hoping it goes away.
Ok water is not very good. So keep it in a warm room for a couple of days. Disconnect the batteries. Then try to see if it will work. It may dry out. Water will short some connections. So take off the seat and the rear plastic shroud so heat can dry out any dampness. Hope this helps
@@tomjacques4 Thank you it worked, found out it was something to do with the horn button, dried out after a day of rest. Drastically need a huge rain cover Haha.
Help sort my scooter thax. .....great vid
Good morning Sammy. Thanks for your enquiry what seems to be the problem.
another great video ,notice more and more trailers been used on mobility scooters ,but found nothing on how there wired up ?have you done any /many ?
ballkeeper666 impersonally would not recommend it but have seen some locating the trailer to seat seat base. Most scooters seats have an attachment at the rear base metal work. Used primarily for attaching crutch holder or other accessories.
@@tomjacques4 think its a good idea for say shopping light loads sort of thing, but iam not sure of,would you think of doing one ?
thanks for your quick reply but if the batteries are new would a solar panel beable to give me the distance? would you be able to suggest the vaultage of a solar panel that i could use, thanks again fiona
Sorry I know nothing about solar panels.
overr 5 years,i wore out 2 tires then electric brake went on but not off dealer said no spares available its too old is a fortress 2000 mdl used ? when i bought it.
Hi send us pictures of your brake and we will see what we can do for u
Good night, i was wondering if you can help me to connect a Celebrity Scooter of my friend, He is very poor and someone tried to help him, but just disabled the adjustment of speed since the board. Thank you... By the way, you are very good to explain. Good night since Mexico.
Hi Oscar can you please be for specific. you can send us pictures etc. if you want email to nithsdale.wheelchairs@btinternet.com
Hello, Have you encountered the Cabin Car build by Scooterpac? I just bought one, I live in Canada and there are no dealers here that work on this model. I got 24.5 mls on the clock and the elec-brake is defective. (moter goes, but no movement, and the brakes won;t apply when keys are out of ignition) I looked online, but can't find one that looks the same as mine. Do you know the part number and the manufacturer?
Uk importer www.scooterpac.com/products/cabin-car/
we are agents so you can get any parts you need best to send us pictures of the part just in case the parts have been changed.
Great video,I always come to your videos when I'm checking something but I have a request. Is it possible to clean this auto break with break cleaner. As I have a problem with my excel galaxy 2 it keeps stopping going forward but great in reverse. Advise please
Do not use any lubricant on that brake. Recon it would be the throttle pot.
Thank you for the reply,but I was told that I could use break cleaner on the breaks to get rid of all oil and dirt. The scooter seems to be ok now but my partner is a big lady and I think the break was binding and it over heated. So I've got to re-test it under- load as before then get back to you. Is the throttle pot the wigwag.
@@Wombat63 yes
@@tomjacques4 thanks if I buy a new one off you do I need to reset it and how
When fitting a new brake. Does the scooter need power . To make the brake easier to fit..
Once you have the brake fitted over the nut then yes so you can easily move the brake around to find the holes for the bolts
I need a repair manual for a Shoprider TE-787NA. I can find plenty of owners manuals. Thanks
Repair manuals don’t exist you need to check just about everything what’s the videos that will help
Your video was another clue to solving my scooter problem thank you.
Hello thanks for uploading these videos they are a great help.i have a carego airlite scooter.it turns on but doesn't move.the light was flashing 9 times which was the parking brake had a bad connection now it's flashing 3 times which is a bad connection from motor to battery connection.any idea where to go from here? Thank you
Check all wires and touch pads from the motor to the controller.
@@tomjacques4 thank you I'll try that today
Hiya I've checked all the wires from the front of the footboard right along to the back where the motor is but can't get access to the control panel.do you think it's worth persevering and getting the panel off please?
@@michaeljohnson5370 sure do could be a loose wire
@@tomjacques4 thanks very much
Hello my shoprider brake works but down hill it fails and the scooter runs away
LOOKS LIKE ITS WORN WE WILL HAVE THEM IN STOCK YOU COULD REMOVE IT AND CHECK THAT THE NUT ON THE MOTOR IS TIGHT. YOU CAN CONTACT US FOR A PART ON 01659 490 667
I have a problem with the motor running on one wheel
i have a rover scooter which once covered 30 k's but now will do only 10 k's, i have new batteries put in but still i cannot get more than 10k's, could anyone tell me what else could i do to get back my mileage. Please i need expert advise from someone who knows about disability scooter as this is my legs. please help, fiona
Fiona Donald hi. As the motor gets older it will draw more current hence less mileage. Also did you get quality batteries ? Or the cheap ones and did you get the same amp rating of battery. ? Check motor brushes ensure brake is not binding on ( getting hot while driving) it’s like an old car...... think wear etc. Hope this helps
Hey love the videos, very helpful! I however am still having issues with my Rascal 600F. I connect everything to the battery as it should and the lights all light up, even with the key off. I the go to put the key on and receive the 5 flashing lights on the scooter. I looked up im my manual and it says a break issue. So I replaced the electric break but still same issue. I have good brand new batteries in this mamma jamma. Just went to try it out today and noticed then I connected the battery that the tiller was unplugged, so I plugged that in with the key off and noticed right away all the lights came on front and rear. I then turned the key and received the 5 flashes. After replacing the brake I am not sure what else to check all connections are good and i have continuity to through all wires from one side to another. I am thinking its a controller issue but those are pretty expensive.. Any other ideas what i can check?
Bjorn Bjornson mmm without some spare parts your snookered
Bjorn Bjornson could be controlled
You could try and bridge the wires leading to the brake then you should not get a flash code. Check all the wires at the controller to the brake. Clean contacts. Ps I do have a spare controller.
Nithsdale Wheelchairs V Thanks for the response, I will give that a go. When I bridge the leads I can do the two pins right off the controller correct? I am currently watching a controller on eBay and hoping to score it for less than 150us dollars.
Bjorn Bjornson I would connect the wires at the brake end. Remember to get the controller that has been on a rascal 600 some had seat lifts fitted. Don’t just buy any controller as the software may be different
Hello there.. i have a problem with a freerider kensington.. I have racked my head to bits trying to source the fault.. I have watched several of your posts on youtube which have been very helpfull.. Unfortunatly for me there were none that cured my problem..As with most things it used to be perfect.. Anyway what started happening was after a distance which could be anything from a few miles or so it would suddenly without warning start to slow down...the battery level would also drop to virtually zero and the green led on the dash would be barely lit... when the scooter was turned off and left for a few minutes it would be off on its way again with no faults.. then the same again could happen at any time..this fault has been getting worse and now its luck if it can run for more than a few minutes... When i took the plastic back off and checked the electric brake was red hot...I unbolted the brake from the motor but left the wires connected... I tried the scooter again and it ran fine but eventually it slowed and stopped again.. The brake had cooled down by now.. i stripped the brake and cleaned it and re-asembled it.. when i refitted it it was worse !! (My fault) as i'd overtightened the small allen head bolts... i sorted them and the brake now works sound and stops and releases as it should without overheating etc..But the scooter does the same... I have totally removed the motor and ran it in the bench with 24v... it run perfect for over 25mins no problem or hesitation...i inspected the brushes and copper contacts on the motor armature and they are great...The speed controler on the dash works fine.. the wig-wag works fine..Oh yeah forgot to mention.. after i sorted the brake out when the scooter faulters and slows to a stop the battery level does not drop anymore so i presume the brake was causing the heavy current draw... the batteries are brand new lucas ones and fully charged and tested..i tried some other fully charged batteries just in case but the scooter does the same... Tested the charger and thats also working correct...i cannot find any lose connections anywhere and ive pulled and re-connected them...If you can help me in any way or give me some pointers i would be more than gratefull so i can get my mother back on it.. thanks... Dean...
AVIT LARGE ok dean sorry for the late reply. Well you have check just about everything. Sometimes the circuit breaker can be faulty internal damage due to water. But that said it should not cause the motor to overheat. Try and remove the brake but still have it connected lift the wheels of the ground and run it. Check will a current tested what draw you have at the motors and the battery. With a temperature sensor check the temps of the motor and the brake and the circuit breaker. Again move all wires as the scooter is driving ps. Have the voltmeter connected to the battery so you see if there is any drastic voltage drops while it’s driving and you moving and checking all the wires. Check to see if the motor in contaminated with the oil from the axle. Hope this helps
@@tomjacques4 hello there..thanks for that.. i had already removed the brake but left connected.. the brake no longer go hot and works as it should... ive had the motor running for a long time in its own removed from the scooter on 24v with no faults at all... the brake now works fine. Ive checked pulled /yanked all the cables while running but still nothing.... is it possible that it could be the blue control unit ??..
Thanks
AVIT LARGE have you actually replaced anything new. Like throttle pot. Could be a an issue there. Now that the motor and brake are not overheating. Cheaper than changing the rhino controller. But yes it could be that. But usually if they are faulty they do t work. Also if run with or without load does that make a difference.
@@tomjacques4 hello again.. it doesnt mske a difference if theres a load or not.. also when the motor stops the voltage doesnt drop on the gauge or with a test meter..
@@tomjacques4 also when you say "throttlepot " do you mean the twist switch in the middle of the dash..ie: slow to fast ?
I own a shoprider explorer I put an 18 litre bottle of water on my scooter plus my fat ass all of a sudden my scooter stopped working now it works then stops the battery's are new! any idea's would be welcome! And don't tell me to lose weight I'm dying from B cell Lymphoma and don't have time.
Very difficult to say if we don’t know why I would check motor continuity first and check all wires. Stopping while driving could be a slack connector.
Can tell where I can buy an electric brake in United Kingdom please.
Hi we sell them just contact us with make and model
@tomjacques4
Hi Tom, The model mobilty scooter is a Pro Rider Road King. Could you give us a price & postage, l live in Swansea South Wales.
Cheers Ron
@@redkite111 www.nithsdale-wheelchairs.com/prods/339561/shoprider-brakes-.html
Shoprider brake mk2
It also beep when ur battery is busted
Yes correct, mind you your led battery display should show low power so an easy fix. Some batteries may be ok to start with then loose power after a given time this should be seen by the lights on the battery indicator so when the power is so low the controller can’t operate hence the peeing.
Nice video. I have a problem where my scooter Will only reverse, when i Want to go forward it cuts out and the battery meter blinks :(
sounds like a throttle pot problem. to confirm this reveres the 2 outside cable on the throttle pot.. when this is done the reverse lever will make the scooter travel forward and the forward lever should no in reverse and cut out...
@@tomjacques4 charged the batteries fully and went out this morning, reverse works fine. and forwards works fine, for 20 meters, then it will only reverse again. im thinking one of the batteries are bad. voltage is okay, but CCA could be bad?
im using a set of car batteries just to test the unit as it was very cheap
Brugernavn batteries should not make a difference. Have you swapped the wires as stated. ?
@@tomjacques4 yep. No difference.
Errorcode says brake. Its also hard to push when in "neutral"
pullede the brake of it today, it works fine. drove without the brake and same problem. goes backwards fine, but when i want to go forward its a click and it stops, its also hard to push without the brake even on the motor, after af few minutes its easy tu push again.
Sorry but that is not a Wood Ruff key
Scooter guy : woodruff keys are available in different shapes and sizes depending on its use some are even half moon shapes. The ones on said mobility scooter are small rounded either on one side or both or non at all it depends on the manufacturer. So I would disagree with your statement.
@@tomjacques4 I'm sorry but what you have there is a square key and would have a radius one end only. Both keyways use different cutters to produce. Other keys are Gib, Tapered, T keys, Scotch key. Shoprider had Square keys in the rear axle. Some of the Pride range came out with Woodruff keys in the rear axles. A woodruff key way requires a radius machined into the shaft not a straight slot.
Woodruff key or not ,we all understood what was meant and most of us call it that anyway.
Beeps 5 times
Yep usually electric brake issue but could be something else. It all depends on what controller is fitted.