How On Stranger Tides Ruined Pirates of the Caribbean
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- A sequel to my video on pirates of the Caribbean 5 as I referenced the fourth film a lot so I thought it deserved its own video.
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0:00 Introduction.
1:00 Not a Pirates of the Caribbean Film.
4:37 Barbosa and the obvious missed potential.
7:51 The New Characters Suck.
11:28 Why I still like this film.
15:44 Conclusion.
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What do you mean the spanish had no reason at all??? It's obviously for a Holy reason cause the guy literally says before destroying the chalices "Only God may give eternal life!"
This!
yeah, this dude's opinion are sht💀💀
Are we gonna forget the fact that spaniards and english used to hate each other 😅😅
@@palomanavarro6150 I dunno if you mean the movie or in real life...
@@keybladegames_real in real life, spaniards and british had a lot of fights and hated each other 🤣
I know I made three comments already but in defense of Barbossa joining the british navy is actually historically accurate. The british navy pulled a Salazar and wiped out most of the pirates and some pirates were welcomed into their crew. They joined willingly for their own survival. So Barbossa being welcomed despite being a pirate is no mistake.
They literally even specify that he's a Privateer now, which means he literally took a commission on behalf of the navy which means hes jist a pirate with papers lol
The Spanish did have a reason to destroy the fountain of youth I think. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was because they believed that only god should be able to grant eternal life. "nOt tHiS PaegAn wAtER"
Btw, I completely agree with barbossas missed potential. I would have LOVED to see not only barbossas insanely awesome nature in the capture of the pearl scenario but also the Queen Anne's revenge in battle, we never see that and it's such an awesome ship. Really annoys me we never saw it fight sometimes.
Time to time I wish our past governors had that same comitment to their beliefs and ideas that media has attributed to them. Seriously, Spain's king most probably would had been on first line with any spaniard for extriacting their lifespan.
Stranger tides wasn't so bad, but the 5th one was outright awful
I think you’re saying this for the same reason I do: we didn’t yet know what rock bottom looked like.
The Spanish explained why they wanted to destroy it. It's a blasphemy to Christian beliefs.
catholic*
You nailed it on barbosa's missed potential. That would make blackbeard more threatening/interesting and the whole film more bearable to watch. Good review.
Ehh this one wasn't SO bad. Doesnt have the charm at worlds end had but the fifth one? THAT is the one that deserves to be shat on. I cant bare how they changed the lore of the compass. Jack got it from calypso but in that one it was given to him from his dying captain. That scene with young jack was ok, shows how clever and bad ass he can be. I just wish they didnt change the compass. It just completely ignores the other movies. At least On Stranger Tides is bareable to an extent and had some entertainment. The fifth one is just cringe cause of every consistency got thrown away. Also unlikable characters. Mainly Barbosa's daughter. I can't believe the words coming out of me Mouth but Elizabeth was better than her and she's a bit of a Mary Sue and even then she's tolerable.
Agree with you completely!
It actually explains that he lost it and his captain got it and gave it back when he died. It’s in the pirates comics
@@AverageFallout4Enjoyer but are the comics even canon?
I’m pretty sure?
@@AverageFallout4Enjoyer I really wish that they explained that in the actual movie.
On barbossa sailing for the British;
(historical)
In 1717 King George the first declared the Acts of Grace, which allowed pirates to get pardonned for their crimes and follow a straight path (or sail as privateers under flag) in an attempt to diminish the amount of pirates on sea.
Maybe a similar thing happened in the POTC universe (even though the king in the movie is King George the 2nd), and Barbossa could've seen this as an opportunity to get back at Blackbeard. Just speculation tho
Also there's a certain irony in P4 having a good Jack but terrible script and co-stars while 5 has a decent script and co-stars but a terrible Jack
Tell me about it. As a history lover, I was upset with how they butchered Blackbeard, and that is what ruined the whole film for me when I saw it in theaters. For me, Blackbeard should have been more like Barbosa from the first film.
I think it would have been better if Blackbeard himself was a slowly rotting zombie who barely survived Okracoke using black magic, and wants to drink the waters of the fountain to restore his vitality and live forever. An easy change and a much better and more obvious motivation than the whole Barbossa prophecy thing. And yes, I love the idea of the film opening with Barbossa losing the pearl to Blackbeard in a terrifying attack by night. But you know what would make it even better? If Blackbeard just straight up used the Pearl as his own ship instead of putting it in a bottle, since it's a much sleeker vessel than the film's lumbering portrayal of the Queen Anne's Revenge.
He would have looked too much like LeChuck (the novel inspired the games tho)
The British actually had a need for privateers, and the tales of Barbossa made him an obvious choice.
This one is a guilty pleasure for me. I love it, but it looks like the cheapest one out of them all in my opinion. And smaller scaled, and the fountain of youth doesn't look impressive. I was expecting something beautiful, but okay.
The Spaniards are chasing the fountain so they could destroy it for religious reasons.
But, I miss the original crew members like Pintel and Rageti. Seriously, where are they after at worlds end? I liked Angelica and the mermaids and the escapes Jack Sparrow makes. But that's pretty much it. Oh, and Hans Zimmer is always good
I do think it’s interesting that even though he “gave up”, Jack still had a vested interest in the Fountain. But the more he discovered about the way it gives life, courtesy of Angelica, Jack’s principles start seeping in because it requires someone else to provide those extra years of life.
The first three pirate movies NEVER relied on actuall historical pirates it instead used them as inspiration for their own fictional ones. Like speaking of blackbeard, there is a pirate in curse of the black pearl who's clearly based of blackbeard his called Jacoby and is the one with the bombs and the SMOKING BEARD! just like Blackbeard would've. Elizabeth Swann is also probably inspired by someone like Anne Bonny and Mary Read and Barbossa's names is taken from Barbarossa ''redbeard''.
Pintel and Ragetti mention Morgan and Bartholomew as the writters of the Pirate Code as a nice little reference. But no HISTORICAL Pirate ever showed up in the trilogy and I would think that if Blackbeard did exist in this universe he would probably be part of the Brethren Court. I get the sense that the historical pirates were almost legends to our fictional characters like their time has long passed. Historically inaccurate but this entire Universe is clearly supposed to be FICTIONAL!
You would think the most expensive film ever made would probably be talked about a lot but no this movie more left in the background.
oh well, RIP Lieutenant Groves shot by the Spanish while carrying Union Jack and Gillette in a sword fight, they lasted longer than Norrington and Thomas Beckett
thanks for making a note of these men's bravery.
Above all else, this film suffers from the lack of Gore Verbinski in the director's chair. Nothing really cements how much his particular voice made this franchise work than watching some hacks trying to recreate it. It just doesn't have the same energy.
I may be bias because I've seen the movie literally like 200 times but I feel some of your points may be invalid
I think people think too much of the story and the idea more then the entertainment. The first 3 had a story that carried on till the 3rd movie. Though with the 4th one it was like a sub film and it just was there for the fans! People need to just chill and just watch the film and not worry so much about how the producers of the film manage the story.
lol the hate on this movie and the 5th one is ridiculous sure the 5th one isn’t that great but this was one does not deserve this hate
I still feel that these movies are not as bad as your microphone. Christ, I had to stop watching with your "SSSSSS" constantly drilling my ears.
Cry about it
@@RichieReviewsTheDoctor I can’t understand why people just don’t say, hey, maybe that was snarky but maybe I should get a better microphone.
@RichieReviewsTheDoctor he had an very agreeable point though, that mic makes you a helluva more loud than you should be during those segments lmao
It is very reasonable for the Spanish to destroy the pagan fountain for multiple layers of reasons: 1. They are devout Catholics of the classic Iberian fanatism, and as openly stated, this fountain might grant something for an inhuman price that faith grants by lifing virtueously. 2. In the same spiritual reasoning, there is Command I: "Thou shall not have other Gods next to me". 3. Traditionally, all non-Monotheistic religion but even Islam were taken for devil-worshipping paganism, especially the religions of Asia and the New World. 4. This is even more interesting: IF the "pagan waters" would work, this prooved the existance of other deities next to the abrahamitic Lord God. The whole fundament of the (Catholic) christendom would collapse by an instant, being prooven wrong or at least not fully monopolic. This would destabilize Europe as a whole, but especially shatter the whole ideology the Spanish built their empire on. There, it must be destroyed.
Wrong on the last bit. That would just indicate other supernatural sources that, considering how the fountain works, could easily be filed under "demonic", same as any other pagan deity at the time. What it would do is make an interesting wreck of philosophies trying to secularize things.
Its like Patrick Jane in Mentalist everytime Jane enters a room he look around everywhere for details and solves crimes in matter of minutes.
The easiest fix for this film would be Jack wants the fountain because he still wants immortality even though Will got it in the prior film, and since it's the only way left for other national powers to be able to challenge Will at all over the sea also seek the fountain as a means to make their own immortal military. Blackbeard could also be wanting immortality as a parallel to Jack's situation in the second film but demonstrating a completely different approach to it would help a lot.
I don’t have a problem with the Spanish, I do have a problem with how complicated the process is to achieve eternal life with the two chalices, mermaid tears, an unknown location that make you wonder how any survivors told the tale
No,no,no,no,no....
What ruined the frenchie was as you said the 5 one.
Zalasars revenge was a guide on how to ruin a franchise.
But I do agree with a lot you talk about here too
PotC4 was the most expensive movie??! HOW??
Then what is the justification to reducing the main cast so much if they had the biggest budget? Why does the movie looks and feels so much like a Direct-to-TV Disney Channel film?? If they had the biggest budget why did the they decided to do such a smaller film compared to the first 3 entries instead of making it bigger and better than AT LEAST the first 2???
This movie is a big case of money laundering, is the ONLY thing that makes sense for me, cuz otherwise where all that money go??
What disappoints me in this film is that in the trilogy before the world building was amazing you really felt the world was lived in but in this one and the one after you feel like that has been drasticaly toned down and they barely connect to what came before, jack didnt seem to have a goal in this movies and literally got kidnapped and forced to be in the narrative, blackbeards motivations are bizarre he will be killed by a one legged man so he needs the fountain to avoid that ? Im assuming if youre younger youre not gonna be immune to being stabbed by a one legged man or by any man with a sword for that matter.
And it just feels like blackbeard came out of nowhere, like where was he in the 3rd movie since he is this big pirate that all pirates fear ? If he was this big player i would assume he wouldve played a role in the big battle that decided the fate of all pirates in the 3rd movie.
They couldve made a cool connection to davey jones to explain that absence,
What if blackbeard was a big pirate years ago that commanded the seas with everyone fearing him for years and his big army of pirates owing all of that to a deal he made with davey jones just like jack did for his black pearl, but unlike jack when it was time to pay up blackbeard runs away to land giving up his pirating ways forever afraid of davey jones and never going back to the sea so he wont face him, showing the parallels between him and jack where one faced there fear and defeated the devil while the other ran away like a coward and like what jack wouldve become if he did succumb to his own fears like he almost did.
Fast forward a few decades later a year after davey jones is dead and theres a vacuum in power that needs to be filled, with blackbeards only reason thats keeping him away from the sea having died he can finaly come back and rebuild his army that he once had to take over the seas again, but after decades of waiting the man has become to old and needs to recover the years that he has lost and thats why he goes for the fountain of youth. You can split this story into 2 movies even with the first ending with blackbeard recovering his youth and the second one having him want to be the pirate king, since before when there was no king he needed the court to vote him in which wouldve never happened but now that there is a king they can add a rule in the narrative that a new king can be crowned after killing the old one paving the way for elizabeth to reenter the narrative and will to come back to protect his wife in the 5th movie and the bretheren court returning not wanting to serve under a tyranical rule of horrors under blackbeard like the years prior where he ruled the seas, with the climax of the 5th movie being between blackbeards rebuilt army vs the bretheren court and all their army under king elizabeth all while jack is jumping around from side to side manipulating the whole situation so he can get back his black pearl as well as come to terms with the immortality that he always was looking for
Omg... i dont know but maybe you had to pay attention at history classes maty!
The feude between England and Spain was real in that time, Katholics against Protestants.
Actually Pirate 4 is pretty good as a film, manny refferances to real life events, Ponce de Leon for example was a real figure who was looking for the fountain of youth in real life, and thought it to be in now days Florida.
Also if u watch the film closley you see that Jack actual has been there beffore, only not inside where the fountain was, because he did not know the procedure with the chalisses.
And he was allone at the end of At World End. So this might be the reasson why he did not care about it, he just could'nd done it allone.
POTC 4 is such a uniquely odd movie. The other POTC films were mostly original stories that just borrowed a few elements from a storyless theme park ride, but this one was an adaptation of a novel that had nothing to do with the franchise. I can’t think of a single other film like that. Jack and Barbossa probably don’t mesh well with the rest of POTC 4’s story because their characters were actually just shoehorned into it.
Wouldn't Blackbeard be a pirate lord if he's supposed to be so powerful then where tf was he at the brethren court?
This movie was may more enjoyable in the Lego game.
This movie is still a masterpiece compared to the upcoming 6th part.
I disagree. The last too were not bad.
There were not bad per say. They were a let down. The characters were pretty good and the story was all over the place but overall it’s entertaining.
the 5th one was worse
Decent review but GOOD LORD FIX YOUR MICROPHONE
The screaming is a bit much
Yeah I only wants Barbossa be with Jack. Barbossa and Jack moments are clearly the best moments in the entire franchise. They are so funny. Everytime I see scenes with Barbossa and Jack I always laugh and they are so funny. Coz the truth is Barbossa do care about Jack. Its like Spongebob is for Squidward that even Spongebob is annoying and Squidward gets always angry he do steps up for him and care for him and Barbossa does sometimes even both hates each others when they work together, when they get to finally talk in privacy they do get calm and they just looks total buddies. The reason Barbossa mutinied Jack in the first movie was because Jack was very young to be a captain and Barbossa felt he would be a better captain and just wanted to save Jack being idk backstab by his crew that surely hated him. Its also thx to Jack Sparrow that Barbossa became a commander. It was Jack who lead Barbossa into a better path. He got entire fleets and lot of ships by his command and he live in a damn luxury life and all that came thx to Jack and like Jack promised, Barbossa got a really nice hat. :D Although I hated his commodore hat coz the hat the little guy find the cool looking hat to Barbossa inside Black Beard's room. I wish he had kept it on.
Put Stranger Tides’ Jack into Dead Man Tell No Tale, and you would’ve had a great movie
A y yall heard how he pronounced phenomenal 🤣 his delivery throughout the video extra
Excellent English from me there 💀
Weird audio pop at 9:03
Oh wait I should’ve checked when this was posted lmao oh well
This film doesnt have two of the main characters from the first 3
Pirates were free and somehow that was undone by the british? And the fountain is no where near as important as the heart because in dead mens chest Jack, Will and James desperately needed the heart while in this movie no one really needs the fountain drink the only people who truly need it are Blackbeard and Angelica but even then they don't really need it either
Why is Angelica even doing this? Does she want to die? Blackbeard is doing just fine nor does he have any reason to fear anyone it just doesn't work at all
This film was good, maybe not as much as 1-3 but it's still interesting. 5th one was a mess mostly because of any respect to the canon
The firsy 3 were directed by the same person. The next 2 were different people
barbossa's transformation of the average pirate is actually complete in poc 4 just without the parrot although he had that poc 1 in jack the monkey. i still like poc 4 more than 5.
Bro u actually speakin facts
Am I the only one who thinks Calypso and Barbosa should have been the villains of pirates 4?
I will understand why disney wasted this franchise by making over produced low effort crap. I just dint get it. Pirates couldve been as big as star wars or harry potter but they wasted it.
Christ man don't get so angry... breathhhhhh
This movie was the most expensive film of all time and it was shit 💀
Actually Tragic lmao
Belay that!
Shut it!
Great review
Pirates of the Caribbean wasnt about jack it was about Will
Ian McShane kind of saved to movie enough
This one was good.... except for Penelope Cruze. Blackbeard was amazing. Jack was great.
The fifth one was bad. The Spaniard was just a poor villain.
Film 2 and 3 were so big and epic... and than this piece of trash came along. This could have been epic. But it's even shot like a TV movie. Blackbeard could habe been one hell of a threat, but he is a wet fart (his ship is cool though, his Zombis on the other end suck compared to Davy Jones Crew).
Actually no, I loved this movie, it's my second favorite after The Curse of The Black Pearl 🏴☠️
"direct to DVD..." Exactly my point. This movie is so bad, and the side characters are sorely missed. I can't name a single actor of the Spaniards and Ian MC Shane....goddamn he was wasted. But in the video for the 5th u call this one better, now u have just said this one is worse, which it is
On Stranger Tides is essentially the Indiana Jones 4 film....the one we just keep trying to forget they ever made to begin with.
I will admit though...I actually enjoyed the 5th film.
And that is where I declare your opinion on this movie invalid. PotC 4 felt like a weak PotC film. PotC 5 made me wonder what the neck I was watching five minutes in and didn't get any better from there.
You're nuts. I've enjoyed them all
The fifth one was good
Yeah you're wrong. And you don't know what you're talking about and I enjoyed every one of them👍