I love Jasper because she is such a sympathetic villain, who isn't really a villain, and the formation of Malachite blew me away. Steven Universe isn't afraid to touch on serious subjects and I'm glad they even did something like this relationship to show even fusion can be through an abusive relationship. Even something like fusion isn't perfect.
The reason I like her so much is because I am able to understand her actions. I mean, i'd be pretty pissed if the gem who made my life go to an infinite downward spiral ever since I popped out of the ground was rumored to be alive, go to earth to find out that she's basically gone, discover that her followers are alive as well, get beaten by one of them, having to resort to a basically criminal action by homeworld standards to get back at them, only for my partner to turn against me and basically treat me like a punching bag for nine months(?), then come out of the fusion mentally unstable, sealing the fact that my life is basically a living hell.
That's why I feel Jasper is fairly sympathetic. You can understand her actions and you feel bad for what happened to her. Her diamond is gone and homeworld left earth behind, leaving Jasper with no closure and a whole lot of hatred towards Rose. Yet Jasper still respected her and never went below a fair fight. I feel Jasper deserves a lot more credit than some people give her.
I think the reason jasper stayed in the water was to in a way show Stockholm syndrome. lapis tricked her and pretty much kidnapped her, forcing her into the abusive relationship they were in. after the fact once they split jasper literally came crawling back to lapis. When lapis refused I think the ocean was all Jasper had left to remember Lapis and what being malachite was like. afterward she started to try and fuse with corupted jems, craving the feeling of fusion and the power that comes with it. in the end it kinda led to her own demise... just my opinion though! 😅
Yeah I was thinking of Stockholm Syndrome too. It also seemed like Jasper might have felt like Lapis was the only one who could 'get' her...the whole thing reminds me of someone in an abusive relationship who stays with someone because they are all all they've ever had/they think the abuser is all they will ever have.
Madelin Elaine That was what I was thinking too and I can't believe Slice of Otaku didn't catch that. For Jasper, going back to the ocean... it's like crying over your ex's stuff that they left at your place. Forcing fusion with whatever other gems, it's like having sex/dating whoever else you can find in a desperate attempt to feel the sensation again. Jasper is one of my favorite gems because of her story and I hope she gets her resolution.
SliceofOtaku huh...nice to know you all agree with me, especially you! just wanna say thanks! after watching you and other similar CZcams's i was able to catch things like this! also, it is really an amazing show, with all the things it shows that people tend to sugar coat or overshadow when speaking of it, if they ever actually do talk about it. hence why i love this show. it in a way defends the downtrodden in our uncertain times within a world build for those who fit a mold. that being said leading to another realization I made (which I'm not sure if you or anyone else has covered) which is the diamond authority is kinda like our world. we have a strict mold and stereotypes we are forced to follow, wether they be because or race, gender, sexuality, grades, ect. if you don't fit into this mold they you are to be shattered. this in my opinion symbolizes the fact that anyone who isn't exactly like everyone else tends to be bulied, ridicules, and in some places arrested or even put to death. the rebellion of rose quartz was gems standing up for earth and organic life. if you look throughout history there has been plenty of scenarios all around the world showing people standing against their government for whatthey believe is right. to protect those who need protecting. For instance Gandhi and India, slavery of Africans/african Americans and the Jews, the civil rights movement, and one of the most recent, lgbt rights. at one time or another these people didn't fit the mold, and some still don't, there for they must be "purged" as jasper has said many a time. again, I could be completely wrong and crazy, but its my opinion and I just wanted to share it. also sorry for putting another theory on you! it just kinda came out as i typed this! xD if you think this is long, trust me, there's more details and a little more of everything to it!
I mean, interpret it the way you will just like I will too, but I didn't think it was Stockholm, it was more of "I've changed, lets make up and get back together"
But it's also a line victims use too; victims can often feel like their abusers protect them, or will stand up for their abusers - Ken Rex's underage wives, for example, defended him when he was clearly abusive - because abusers can get so deep into their victims head, that when their abuser rejects them they panic and become desperate.
Stockholm syndrome is forged through love and affection for your kidnapper if she was really going through Stockholm syndrome she would have never lifted a hand towards Steven or anybody that lapis cared about because she knew that would have hurt the one that she had affection for lapis but we see that she doesn't care for that so until the crewniverse clarifies I'm going off of the psychiatric definition lol
I would agree, but Jasper literally uses the words "I've changed; you've changed me". The fault does lie on Lapis, I totally agree, but that was definitely an "I've changed, take me back" speech. She literally says the words.
Since Malachite has the abilities of both Lapis &Jasper, thus leading her to being a strong fusion; would you believe that location of the battles that happen between gems (fusions included) changes the turn out?
im honestoy dissapointed w the crewniverse. Lapis could be a great character and peridot too but they barned them and made them comic relief side characters.
Yea,that bummed me out. The reason people want Homeworld Gems redeemed is so they could get screen time and we get to knows them like Garnet Amethyst and Pearl. So they could join the main cast,to see new interactions of foes becoming friends. But no,they've been barned!
When Lapis first tricks and traps Jasper, it feels like she did so to protect Steven. She even told Steven, "Just let me do this for you!" Later it's revealed Lapis just liked taking all her hatred and frustration out on Jasper. That makes her the abuser.
I'm kinda confused on how you worded that. Do you mean that Lapis' original intentions were to protect steven, but later the reason became was because she took her frustration and hatred on Jasper? :o
Basically she was claiming her reasoning was to protect Steven, but she later admitted that it was actually so she could take everything she was feeling out on Jasper.
Jasper is sort of a victim of wobbly writing - in Jailbreak and Chille Tid she clearly wanted out. Something happened to make Jasper change her mind. That, or the crew just forgot Jasper clearly hated the fusion.
SliceofOtaku hey slice can you see the other comment I dropped for you to see? It's about what I think of jasper and what she went through! Please just take a look! Great video by the way! You rock!
we all know why people think Jasper is the abuser. we ALL know. she's muscular, she's "manly". we all know that a lot of people these days - particularly a lot of the people who watch this show - think that masculine people cannot be abused. they're always the abusers, whether they actually are or not.
Autumn White the way I, me, myself, see it is that Jasper just fitted that role better than lapis did in the eyes of everyone else. I don't want to victimize Jasper nor do I want to lie when I say she wasn't an abuser and lapis was. I just think they BOTH were to blame for the whole ordeal. I guess Jasper just acted more like the abuser in "alone at sea" typical abuser behavior of victimizing themselves, saying that they have changed and that everything will be better so I guess it was just easier to balmed Jasper? Am I explaining myself?
Autumn White Jasper forced Lapis to fuse when she didn't want to. Lapis reluctantly agreed to it and trapped Jasper to keep the one person she cared about safe "steven". Lapis was pressured but Lapis hates everyone and mainly want to protect steven.
There are those few seconds zoomed out with the ocean in view and then on Lapis' face before she extends her hand - this is a clear indicator of deception. Lapis takes her time, literally. Lapis never behaves like she feels threatened, because she knows she has nothing to fear from Jasper. On top of that, Jasper never abused Lapis - ever. She tugged her around a few times and said some mean things. That does not abuse make. It doesn't matter how much of an asshole someone is - you can't bind them and torture them for months on end.
Something I really want to see in the future in the show is Jasper and Lapis interacting with Topaz and Aquamarine, the relationship between the two feels pretty similar at time's and almost like a reflection of the truth of the Malachite situation with Aquamarine looking pretty innocent and defenseless in a appearance is a lot more dominant then Topaz who although has an intimidating appearance is somewhat at the hands of Aquamarine until she decides to take the wheel like in the end of stuck together. Also seems very likely that Topaz could be the reason why Jasper despises fusion seeing how Topaz is a fusion who's a high ranked gem in yellow diamon's court while jasper this super soldier isn't given that same title, thats interaction I especially want to see.
Malachite is also my favorite. 1. That design is AMAZING. 2. A fusion between two of my favorite characters (just get Peridot and Topaz in there... come on...). 3. HOLY COW WHAT IS THAT FIGHTING TACTIC! If/when Jasper gets her arc. For the love of... Whatever, BRING HER BACK. (Note on Lapis: Can people just STOP taking her for the one and only victim?)
I've always seen Jasper as the one in the relationship that has the mentality that it is their fault that the relationship. The one that has tried time and again to change themselves to better the relationship, even putting whatever pride they have left aside even when the fault is not with them. Malachite, to me, is that twisted sort of relationship where everyone can see that it's terrible and toxic for both parties but both may be feeding off of each other or one (in this case Jasper) is in denial of how bad it really is and is trying to mend what can't be ignored as best they can.
Before I say the rest of this, let me say that I adored Malachite in terms of character and her depth. I thought that she was wonderfully characterized, despite my not liking the abusive relationship she represents. My thoughts on the Jasper/Lapis dynamic and people calling Jasper the abuser is because of Lapis' other actions in episodes like Alone at Sea. As you say with Jasper, you really need to look deeper with Lapis. For instance, when Greg offers to let her steer the boat, Lapis refuses, saying that she shouldn't be in control. She's afraid of being in power because she saw what happened with Malachite, and she was kind of traumatized by it. One of the lesser emphasized parts of abusive relationship (that's still important to keep in mind) is the shifting of the blame on the abuser, making it hard to tell who played what role, and how a toxic relationship can bring out the worst of either member of it because of the cyclical revenge involved. When Jasper made her move to fuse, Lapis knew what she was getting into, and she retaliated against Jasper's aggression by keeping her tied down (literally and figuratively), and Jasper retaliated by breaking the bonds and seizing control of Lapis. During Malachite vs Alexandrite, Malachite had Jasper in full control, judging by the voice. That was Jasper sucking Lapis dry of her strength, a deprivation we saw taking its toll on Lapis later. Again, it's a cycle. Lapis kept Jasper tied down with Malachite to protect Steven, but she developed such a severe hatred for Jasper and her values that it had a lasting toll on her. In my opinion, Alone at Sea was Lapis sharing how toxic Malachite had been for her, and Jasper was doing the same in her own way, as she was craving the strength that hatred was giving her, the opposite reaction that Lapis had, associating power and control with hatred and fear.
This video itself was just perfect, in my opinion Malachite was an incredible fusion and I did love her despite what it was that she stood for. I never understood myself why Jasper was called the abuser but I got tired of writing the same response so I eventually gave up. Once again, thanks for such a great vid about such a lit character~
Well yeah, Garnet is pretty simple when it comes down to it. She's just two lovers with an unbreakable bond. The relationship within Malachite is much more complicated. It can't be described as just one word as 'love' or 'hatred.' Both components of Malachite struggle with internal pain, and they cope by letting out their anger and frustration into their fusion.
Malachite's not my favorite (that title is tied with Alexandrite and Sugilite) but I totally agree with her being strong. Her reasoning for existing is tied with Garnet as the best imo (although they're the only fusions to stay fused for more than 1 episode.) Her debut in Jailbreak gave me shivers. The "spider" like appearance was weird at first but I got used to it.
I really liked your point about jaspers appearance and how that warps fans’ perception of her!! The show kinda has a history with ‘demonizing’ larger and muscular women (ie sugilite, jasper, topaz even) or, in the case of bismuth, painting her in the wrong. None of the good gems fit that huge, jacked, butch stereotype, yet a lot of the antagonists of the show do. It’s unfair, and I’m glad more people are talking about it!!
Ya know, every gem is weak when compared to BDSM Bismuth Death Shattering Machine. I'm pretty sure if you shatter a gem during a fusion they would both die
A.R.D. Project I doubt it, though the other gems involved in said fusion would definitely need time to reform. Not to mention the psychological damage of having been linked to someone who was shattered effecting their physical forms. It wouldn't kill them, but they would feel what it is like to die, as well as the fallen's final moments.
I love this video! I always get shit on by people when i bring up that wasn't Lapis the one who abused Jasper? Iv gotten yelled at because of my opinion. I can't help it. I never saw Jasper as the abuser. The theory fits more with how Lapis is in the newer episodes after Jasper is gone. She broke Peridots recorder and never apologized , she never apologized to Connie trying to drown her. I mean is it that crazy that Lapis is the abuser and not Jasper? Because she never abused Lapis.
Shyrocker123 I agree with the Lapis being an abuser to Jasper, but I don't see why people bring up Peridot and Connie. Peridot was one of her captors then she was asked to play nice and get along, Lapis wanted to be alone and Peridot constantly was trying to force friendship onto her, in order to stop her Lapis was cold and personally attacked her by destroying an object she loved. As for Connie I really saw no on camera opportunity for her to apologize. I understand Lapis isn't a nice character but she isn't a mean one either.
I agree because Lapis knew how bad it was to be imprisoned, and its already been clearly shown Lapis is an emotional abuser. She might have imprisoned Jasper to protect Steven, but that sense of control over jasper def made her sadistic toward Jasper. I think realizing that Lapis had betrayed her, Jasper fought back, only to grow "Stockholm syndrome" / masochist for Lapis feelings and full power. The balance was actually pretty perfect for both characters, however the reason Lapis ran away because she feared how much she actually enjoyed all that power. She was afraid to become addicted like Jasper had become.
Shyrocker123 Yeah, Lapis was an abuser, but I personally think Jasper was an abuser as well. I definitely don't think that "Oh Lapis was the ONLY abuser!" and "Oh Jasper was the ONLY abuser!" Nah. I believe they're both abusers to each other. Malachite is my favorite fusion, excluding Garnet. I would like to see Malachite appear again, but this time more trustful and stable. Not fully stable though, I actually want Jasper and Lapis to keep a small grudge between each other and not completely become "friends."
Shyrocker123- Boy, I really have no clue on the extent of this mentality is in the fandom. Most comments I read, people seem to realize it was a toxic relationship on both ends. Both of them fought for dominance, and Lapis, was the one to stay on top. It even came out of her own mouth! So, I can't see why people would just pin it on Jasper. Was Jasper innocent? No. But Lapis' hands are by no means were clean of the situation either.
Slice,Lapis is my favorite character and I respect that you don't like her, And I show respect all opions you and everyone has, so Let the keyboard warriors make you laugh,you'll be the only one to win in the end,because when it all comes down to it we all are gonna have hate and love,my point is I love you're videos,and I may disagree with some of it to a slightly point,but please never stop, I love you're video's.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE this channel. You make sure to look at Steven Universe from perspectives most fans are too closeminded to even consider, and I really, really appreciate that. Keep up the good work, Slice, you've got a good thing going!
Jasper's abuse of Lapis basically comes down to her using fusion - love - for power alone. She asked Lapis to fuse, not because of her feelings for Lapis, but because of her own hunger for power. She was taking advantage of Lapis, and Lapis then turned the tables to become the abuser herself, in retribution to begin with, but in the long run, on account of her own bitterness and anger. Neither of them were the "good" guy in this relationship, which is not just complex and interesting, it's realistic. Most people in an abusive relationship will exhibit abusive behaviour themselves without knowing it. This is why Malachite is so unstable - it's not just one strong gem ordering a weak one around, it's two equally powerful gems constantly trading blows.
My favorite fusion is the unknown quartz fusion in the episode "Earthlings". It's just so cool and scary, the way it looks and behaves is like a complete fusion of man and beast and I love it's color scheme. I could gush about it forever but I don't want to.
I absolutely love every time you speak about Jasper because you actually understand her charter and the struggles she’s been put through. And I when you talked about how Lapis abused her I had to stand up and applaud.
You know everyone thinks " OH LAPIS AND PERIDOT ARE THE BEEEEEEST " but they never appreciate how jasper no matter how horrible she might seem, is obeying her homeworld and still has a heart! When she was getting corrupted you could see how she is really afraid and sad she is. You could see how betrayed and horrible she felt, she must have felt that she could have protected pink diamond if she was just stronger!, that's why she acts so feisty and makes it look like she can't feel remorse.... but inside that's all she feels! You have to understand how desperate and confused how this gem is! All she wants to do is make it up to pink diamond and avenge her being shattered! She just needs some help and love! Thanks for reading all this! Please like it so slice of Otaku can see it! Thank you!
I honestly don't see why people made Jasper out to be the abuser. It's so obvious from the episode content that Lapis was the bad guy in that situation. Jasper actually did nothing wrong. She thought Lapis was on her side at that point (Lapis was in prison, but only because she was being interrogated and not for being a rebel at that point) and ASKED her to help her win the fight. At no point does she force her. She asks for her consent. And Lapis gives it. If we're using the "fusion is sex" metaphor, Jasper did everything you're supposed to. It's made especially clear in Alone At Sea. Lapis isn't scared of Jasper, she isn't scared that Jasper's going to hurt her. She's scared of what SHE could do to Jasper. Jasper awoke a dark side of Lapis that she didn't even know existed, a side willing to hurt and punish, and it terrified her.
Malachite was the scariest thing in the show, imo. Not based on primal fear like those cluster experiments, with the bodyhorror aspect. But just the lingering, looming since of dread that followed her all the way up to her liberation.
i personally love watching the character analysis videos! i think you have a very interesting perspective on malachite and her separate component gems, especially regarding all the abuse controversy in the fandom. i'd be very interested in seeing a character analysis video along the same lines as these about pearl since a bunch of people in the fandom claim that she's an abusive character too.
I remember watching when lapis first appeared and being really excited for her character. I was very disappointed when she turned out so...average? If she’s your favorite character I understand. People tend to like more edgy characters that seem depressing or like there ‘babies’ but I would love to go back and find out more about her. She makes me curious to find out more about her and that is one thing the crewniverse did right.
Steven Universe- All about characters that are both good and bad. There really seems to be no black or white character in the series, all of them fall into a grey area and are always deeper than the 'good guy' or 'bad guy' concept.
one thing ive been thinking of since i watched your jasper analysis video was like... it's been hard for me to accept jasper because im an abuse victim and her displays of physical aggression and violence make me uncomfortable. but like. ive been through a lot of emotional abuse and manipulation as well, but somehow glanced over the scenes where lapis was displaying manipulation and emotional abuse... i think a lot of people, even abuse victims ourselves, internalize this idea that emotional abuse isn't "real" abuse and forgiving emotionally abusive characters and manipulators or looking past their actions... i dunno. it's obviously a lot harder to recognize but yeah
SliceofOtaku Yeah! One thing I've come across a lot in this fandom is people who are like "why does it matter, why would you debate about it, why do you care, it's just a cartoon, they're just fictional characters, don't get so worked up about it" but these stories and characters really do matter because they can represent real issues in a very real way and that's important to people who have been through similar struggles, victories, emotions, relationships, and developments that we see our favorite characters having. So it's important to keep conversations going about representation and the serious aspects of the show and characters !!!
I just wanted to say that as another victim of abuse jaspers actions and words also made me uncomfortable and were unsettlingly familiar. I pretty much related to everything you said so thank you for putting it into words because I certainly didn’t know how to.
Man, I really enjoy videos where characters are broken down like this. Their themes brought to light, their mentalities explained, and so on. It just helps give a greater appreciation for those characters, as well as open eyes to ideas that hadn't been explored before. Thanks SliceofOtaku for the awesome video!
I am so glad you touched on the issues of Malachite while acknowledging that they are a powerful fusion. I will admit I was in the boat of "Jasper was the 'abuser' until later on when we Jasper beg to get back with Lapis and then what happens with her fusing with corrupted gems, the consequences be darned.
At first I was interested in Malachite but didn't particularly love her. Now after this video I can't help but gush with love and affection at how complex a fusion malachite is. It would be bad if she came back, but I can't help but kind of wonder how that fusion would be if Jasper was redeemed and more at peace with herself.
Malachite was always my favorite fusion, solely on her first introduction with Jasper and Lapis's fusion dance. Also you can't believe how happy I am to hear someone else say how Lapis was pretty much the abuser of the relationship equivalent of the fusion.
To be honest, I never saw Malachite as an abusive relationship. I know that's how most people interpreted it, but I saw it more as a BDSM relationship that needed to form boundaries/a safe word. So, not an inherently bad relationship, but a greatly misunderstood one. I'm gonna be honest here; Jasper has the makings of a masochist, and Lapis has the makings of a sadist. sado-masochism just makes sense for them. There's actually a lot there when you look at that relationship with that in mind. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm crazy, but that's honestly how I saw their interactions. Especially since Jasper, not Lapis, was the one who was "abused," and I love Lapis to death, but she never struck me as a victim. Not in regards to Malachite. Then, at the beginning of her fight with Alexandrite, Lapis and Jasper started working together, and their fusion was incredible. Basically, they agreed on some boundaries and started reinventing and reassessing their relationship. Malachite was on the brink of becoming a more stable fusion when Alexandrite separated them, and I think the only reason Lapis and Jasper were split apart was because they had only just started figuring out who they were together and what they could do together. I think if Lapis had agreed to fuse with Jasper in "Alone at Sea," it would have been as though they sat down, talked about what they liked and didn't like the first time, made everything clear, and both consented this time. Then we would've gotten a stable Malachite (aka, a healthy BDSM relationship).
I like how the crewniverse used Malichite to show not only what goes on in a mutually abusive relationship, but also how they used the memory of her to show the aftermath. Jasper starting to believe that she's only powerful if she's fused with someone showing how one side can end up feeling worthless without a partner, and Lapis developing PTSD not only from what she went through but also from what she did, it's beautiful.
YES YES YES OMG PLEASE, YOU UNDERSTAND THE CHARACTERS AND THATS WHATS NEEDED! People don't see under the shell of the characters but you do (and I) and you're needed so people understand the depth of them! I LOVE YOU SO MUCH Tbh you're my favorite SU youtuber
She was like a homophobe who found that she had feelings for the same gender, but also a bad person who a good one took advantage of and abused. Redemption trampled by toxicity. A recipe for disaster. Can we just get Jasper a hug? She deserves it by now.
I still hope the show delves further into Lapis's past. Specifically when Jasper tells Steven got his shield pointed at the "wrong person". An 80 gem killing machine regards a Terraforming Lapis as a threat greater than herself. I think Lapis let more of her darker side slip out when she was chaining the pair of them under the ocean.
Malachite is my favorite fusion and Lapis is my favorite gem, but you're right that after alone at sea Lapis went downhill. She went from a gem wiling to do terrible things to help her friend, with parallels to pearl, to a pointless. Like peridot, the writers "stripped them of their dignity."
It's really herd to choose my favorite fusion. I do REALLY love malachite though, A LOT! And one little thing I always loved about her is how her voice can change from lapis's voice to Jasper's
Jasper "asking" Lapis to fuse was not a choice, it was an ultimatum. Jasper told Lapis to just say yes while holding her down from fleeing. Lapis took that and spun it back onto Jasper. Additionally, Jasper was introduced into the series as a "bad guy," and that's largely why lots of people (myself included) initially felt like Jasper was the abusive one. I've come to see their relationship how you see it, but I think you overlooked a part of the explanation as to why people might have seen it the other way around. Aside from that, I loved this video and you've helped me appreciate Malachite so much more than before! I love your videos! Keep up the good work :D
I'm honestly just waiting for people claiming Jasper was the abuser to just admit they only see her as an abuser because she's more masculine than Lapis. How else can they justify this when Lapis outright admits she liked hurting Jasper like ??? Even as someone who liked Lapis, after really watching the episodes over again it was really hard *NOT* to see her as an abuser. Jasper *asks* her to fuse, Lapis wasn't forced she chose to fuse in order to imprison Jasper and hurt her considering the crystal gems would have taken her out easily. Then when Jasper tried to leave she forced her to stay so she could continue hurting her while using protecting Steven as an excuse, then she flat out admits that she enjoyed hurting her and took everything out on her. Jasper's whole "i've changed' thing sounds WAY more like a person with stockholm syndrome.
I'm here for this analysis. Also, Mr.Slice if you haven't seen the movie Perfect Blue you should really check it out such an incredible psychological thriller that I think you'd love. Anyways wish you the best I love you!
I've watched SU all the way through like five times now, but there are so many ideas you present in your videos that I've never before considered. Thank you for taking the time to share this with us.
Unique fusion that is built from two strongest characters who is also most badass fusion? Fuck yeah she is amazing! I personally love how, when Malachite was around, she sounded like she was Lapis and Jasper talking and acting together in one body as oppose to two individuals mixing into new one. It was different. And say all you want, but crystal gems would never defeat Jasper or Malachite fairly. Moral? She is the most real and amazing fusion ever.
A cool feature that I love about Malachite is that she doesn't have her own voice actress. She instead just has Lapis and Jasper's actresses speaking at the same time. I feel as though this is very symbolic of their relationship as Malachite, being that they do not agree on any part of what they are doing, and that while they are fused physically, they are still miles apart mentally.
Malachite only defeated Alexandrite easily because they were at the ocean, where they can use their powers with an enourmous extent. Alexandrite would win easily if they were in a middle of a desert or in a place without water EDIT: Lol, malachite didn't, I'm dumb
lmao, you mean the only reason malachite lost is because of the watermelon stevens, which were thankfully able to distract her. Otherwise, she would've definitely been able to poof and likely shatter Alexandrite.
HiMyNameIsWeirdo Malachite had the higher ground on the fight (just like obi wan). She had an ocean to help her hydrokinesys and Alexandrite only had her weapons and the flamethrower. Malachite is indeed a strong fusion and if she have the high ground (the water in this case) she can really make things
I honestly agree with the part about I asked living in the water. I personally feel as if jasper continuously returned back to the ocean to be in that same mental state she was in while being imprisoned as malachite.
Sorry but i love lapis the way she is She doesn't take shit from anyone She's not a follower She doesn't feel the need to help everyone She's not to nice She's a chill character And she's calm minded doesn't give af about anyone like me and i just love that about her :)
Adolf Hitler self theory I think Lapis acts that way Because if anyone else starts to like her (exceptions are Steven and maybe Peridot) Then they'll fuse again, so she acts mean to not repeat history
Lol sounds like you got problems if you are like that. She isn't "calm minded" just hateful. She is mad at everything, like a perpetually pissed chick that no one would enjoy as company. It's only when she opens up and lightens up that she becomes remotely likeable.
Malachite is aesthetics asf too, I was originally surprised and kinda wierded out by her design, and as time went on I began to love it. Also, WATER POWERS!!! ;D
I think the reason why people keep thinking Jasper was the abuser in the situation was two factors, and it has nothing to do with appearance: 1. Despite Jasper asking permission, it seemed greedy for her to just want to fuse with Lapis. All she wanted from the fusion was something one sided, not on a common goal. There are two debunks to this. Firstly, Jasper could see fusion way different from the cast, as a power thing than a relationship. Lastly, despite the fact Lapis was a prisoner to them, she could've believe that they were on the same page, though this second point is super speculative than real debunking fact. 2. Like you said, Jasper's words and her actions during Lost at Sea really come across as the whole stereotype, which is kind of stupid. SU usually doesn't like "in your face shit". Let's give them the benefit of the doubt for a moment with that, and focus more on Lapis and Jasper. If SU tried making Jasper the abuser, then they did a poor job at it sadly. If they tried making Lapis to be the abuser, once again, bad job. Only way they can salvage this idea further, is if they bring it up in the future in some way, but this is kind of doubtful. (Keep in my this last statement is my personal opinion) It's now just a dissatisfying end, to an engaging plot thread with a ton of potential, with poorer writing/direction than as hoped. Least Jaspers part after Lost at Sea was engaging in it's own ways, even up to her corruption. (Could be wrong on certain things, so take this with a grain of salt)
「A Guy In A Tophat」 jasper didn't ask permission to fuse, she grabbed lapis while she was trying to fly away and demanded she fuse, lapis didnt or at least (probably) believed she didn't have any choice aside from "consenting" to the fusion
Had a feeling I had something wrong there. Thanks for the clarification. Now of course anyone could say "Lapis could've easily sent Jasper flying into the water", but really, in Lapis' eyes, maybe she thought otherwise, so I totally agree with you there. But even with that still in effect, it's kind of hard not to see both being abusers to one another, rather than one party being a victim, unless I'm missing some details.
「A Guy In A Tophat」 I see where you're coming from with them both being abusers but I view it more as a victim of abuse finally getting the upper hand on her abuser (and possibly taking it too far) as a victim of abuse I can verify that it is very easy to go too far when you finally fight back because the fear of what they will do to you for fighting back creates a feedback loop but the line between fighting back and "mutual abuse" seems to be thin and blurry so in this case I think either view is fine (because they are fictional characters)
I can totally see that connection myself, and the more I thought of it after the comment, I felt a bit dumb not thinking of that point. Just glad you were the one to bring it up! As for that loop, it can be human nature for vengeance or wanting "justice", and very easily abuse this blind judgment. Tends to warp your morality and mentality in some cases, becoming the very thing you hate. I agree. Little blurry, which can be okay if it was intentional, which I'm not their writers, so I don't know. Regardless if the writing was that of Edgar Allen Poe, or a 12 year old on Fanfic sites, the concept no matter what is interesting. I'd prefer it to be done right, but at least the attempt was made, allowing others to try out this concept themselves, and maybe have their own take on the idea.
strength does not define whether it is the best or not, as Dumbledore said: It is our choices that reveal what we really are, much more than our qualities.
I definitely agree that Lapis was abusing Jasper. Jasper began to need the abuse because, even if it was negative, she was still getting attention and wasn't alone. That is extremely unhealthy for someone and that's why Malachite is my least favorite fusion. I love both Lapis and Jasper and I don't like what that fusion did to either of them. I know that it was Lapis' choice to take Jasper prisoner, but she was doing it to protect Steven so I don't hate her for what she did, and it definitely hurt her mental health too. Sure they might be kinda similar based on the points in your video and they're super powerful and they look beautiful (minus the doofy legs), etc., but I will never be supportive of it because of how toxic the fusion was. I will fully support Jasper and Lapis making up in a redemption arc, but I don't think Malachite should make a reappearance unless both parties have moved on and the situation is dire
All that being said, I'm really glad things happened the way they did. I'm glad the show touched on such a serious subject because kids do need to learn about things like abuse and, for kids who are abused, show that people can move on and be happy (another reason I NEED a Jasper redemption)
Malachite is my favorite fusion, but I don't support it. I just think she's interesting (abusive relationships are a topic that I have a scary fascination for). On a separate note (kinda), do you know that people actually ship Jasper and Lapis?
HiMyNameIsWeirdo yeah I do and I really hate the idea. Like I know all this makes for a really good story but it just makes me think of real abusive relationships and it puts a bad taste in my mouth, you know?
Kerri Yeah, I definitely don't think Jasper and Lapis should be together, but I do believe there needs to be some closure between them. Kind of like how Greg and Pearl finally made up, except Lapis and Jasper definitely need a lot more time for healing (and I don't just mean corruption).
I personally want Lapis to be the one who requests Jasper's release in a time of desperation, have them sit down and TALK, and after it all I want Malachite to say something along the lines of, "We are me, and I am happy." Ending with a new permafuse!
Nah... honestly I haven't seen much of Steven Universe. However I have kept up with the story. And honestly it feels like Jasper has already played her part. Bringing her back would really serve no purpose to the story...
I didn't even realize that Jasper was essentially trying to recreate Malachite without Lapis by dwelling in the ocean I love watching your videos because of how much is discussed and how your show takes different perspectives
I agree with you 100%. Malachite is awesome. The internal struggle between those two characters was way more than I was expecting from a cartoon. I am still disappointed with the way Lapis has turned out (I feel for what she went through, but that doesn't give her an excuse to be abusive towards another and take out her anger on them). I'm still hopeful she will be developed more. And Jasper is one of my favorite characters. I don't want her to come back and turn all good since that wouldn't be believable ...but I think an anti-hero. I would like to see Lapis and Jasper's relationship develop into a healthy one. Thanks for the videos....they are fun!
Yeah I love her, she's my favourite fusion, but she was an example of abuse. Their relationship was unhealthy. And As much as I love her character design, and things like that, I never want to see her again. And when you said she pleaded, lapis was right to say no, again abuse. It is common to say, "I've change"d, or "I'm different now." Did you not see the look on lapis' face? Yes, *lapis* was abusing jasper, but she knew it. Jasper knew as well, but she wanted it to stay that way, she wanted to continue this hideous cycle. I do believe that jasper can change, but it would take time and effort. And, moral of the story, malachite FTW? No. Moral of the story, abuse is not a good thing, you don't need a partner to be powerful. You treat lapis, as a joke, when her character is meant to be teaching people about abuse. You say you don't hate her, and that's good, but you are missing the point. Lapis was about teaching lessons about abuse, not about being your favourite gem, and having no flaws. Sorry for the long post/rant, it's just now I'm torn wether to sub and tell my friends about you, or to not. Sorry.
You know what I appreciate about Malachite physical form? Her body is a consistent of grabbing complexities. Everything is just latching and holding on to the problems/goals and they wouldn't let go. And by holding on it does become stronger what it was previously. And I just adore how much it reflects their minds.
I really liked this video and always appreciate your work for character analysis because while it has a short track record and isn't fully realized, it's very engaging and promising. I can't wait to see more as you dive into new characters in the future. Malachite is a very interesting choice, but I can see why you love her so much from this video. Best of Luck on your computer project!
I love Jasper because she is such a sympathetic villain, who isn't really a villain, and the formation of Malachite blew me away. Steven Universe isn't afraid to touch on serious subjects and I'm glad they even did something like this relationship to show even fusion can be through an abusive relationship. Even something like fusion isn't perfect.
The reason I like her so much is because I am able to understand her actions. I mean, i'd be pretty pissed if the gem who made my life go to an infinite downward spiral ever since I popped out of the ground was rumored to be alive, go to earth to find out that she's basically gone, discover that her followers are alive as well, get beaten by one of them, having to resort to a basically criminal action by homeworld standards to get back at them, only for my partner to turn against me and basically treat me like a punching bag for nine months(?), then come out of the fusion mentally unstable, sealing the fact that my life is basically a living hell.
That's why I feel Jasper is fairly sympathetic. You can understand her actions and you feel bad for what happened to her. Her diamond is gone and homeworld left earth behind, leaving Jasper with no closure and a whole lot of hatred towards Rose. Yet Jasper still respected her and never went below a fair fight. I feel Jasper deserves a lot more credit than some people give her.
infectioustrations Jasper is still a villain. She fused with corrupted gems tried to kill Amethyst and Steven fused with a corrupted gem and etc
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"And she was tearing them apart."
_"I can't wait to tear you gems apart!"_
*_cOiNcIdEnCe?_*
SHSL Editor that's what I thought!
I THINK NOT!!
I think the reason jasper stayed in the water was to in a way show Stockholm syndrome. lapis tricked her and pretty much kidnapped her, forcing her into the abusive relationship they were in. after the fact once they split jasper literally came crawling back to lapis. When lapis refused I think the ocean was all Jasper had left to remember Lapis and what being malachite was like. afterward she started to try and fuse with corupted jems, craving the feeling of fusion and the power that comes with it. in the end it kinda led to her own demise... just my opinion though! 😅
Yeah I was thinking of Stockholm Syndrome too. It also seemed like Jasper might have felt like Lapis was the only one who could 'get' her...the whole thing reminds me of someone in an abusive relationship who stays with someone because they are all all they've ever had/they think the abuser is all they will ever have.
Erratic Pants exactly
Madelin Elaine That was what I was thinking too and I can't believe Slice of Otaku didn't catch that. For Jasper, going back to the ocean... it's like crying over your ex's stuff that they left at your place. Forcing fusion with whatever other gems, it's like having sex/dating whoever else you can find in a desperate attempt to feel the sensation again. Jasper is one of my favorite gems because of her story and I hope she gets her resolution.
...Dear lord thinking about it like that hurts like hell.
SliceofOtaku huh...nice to know you all agree with me, especially you! just wanna say thanks! after watching you and other similar CZcams's i was able to catch things like this! also, it is really an amazing show, with all the things it shows that people tend to sugar coat or overshadow when speaking of it, if they ever actually do talk about it. hence why i love this show. it in a way defends the downtrodden in our uncertain times within a world build for those who fit a mold. that being said leading to another realization I made (which I'm not sure if you or anyone else has covered) which is the diamond authority is kinda like our world. we have a strict mold and stereotypes we are forced to follow, wether they be because or race, gender, sexuality, grades, ect. if you don't fit into this mold they you are to be shattered. this in my opinion symbolizes the fact that anyone who isn't exactly like everyone else tends to be bulied, ridicules, and in some places arrested or even put to death. the rebellion of rose quartz was gems standing up for earth and organic life. if you look throughout history there has been plenty of scenarios all around the world showing people standing against their government for whatthey believe is right. to protect those who need protecting. For instance Gandhi and India, slavery of Africans/african Americans and the Jews, the civil rights movement, and one of the most recent, lgbt rights. at one time or another these people didn't fit the mold, and some still don't, there for they must be "purged" as jasper has said many a time. again, I could be completely wrong and crazy, but its my opinion and I just wanted to share it. also sorry for putting another theory on you! it just kinda came out as i typed this! xD if you think this is long, trust me, there's more details and a little more of everything to it!
I saw Jasper's pleading to be Malachite again as a Stockholm syndrome kind of thing instead of an "I've changed, take me back" kind of thing.
It's heavily implied that is true.
I mean, interpret it the way you will just like I will too, but I didn't think it was Stockholm, it was more of "I've changed, lets make up and get back together"
But it's also a line victims use too; victims can often feel like their abusers protect them, or will stand up for their abusers - Ken Rex's underage wives, for example, defended him when he was clearly abusive - because abusers can get so deep into their victims head, that when their abuser rejects them they panic and become desperate.
Stockholm syndrome is forged through love and affection for your kidnapper if she was really going through Stockholm syndrome she would have never lifted a hand towards Steven or anybody that lapis cared about because she knew that would have hurt the one that she had affection for lapis but we see that she doesn't care for that so until the crewniverse clarifies I'm going off of the psychiatric definition lol
I would agree, but Jasper literally uses the words "I've changed; you've changed me". The fault does lie on Lapis, I totally agree, but that was definitely an "I've changed, take me back" speech. She literally says the words.
she definitely had an advantage being in the ocean.
CrystalQueen90 not to mention having less gems on the fusion. more gems = more instable
I did enjoy every twisted moment of malachite though ❤
CrystalQueen90 same
Since Malachite has the abilities of both Lapis &Jasper, thus leading her to being a strong fusion; would you believe that location of the battles that happen between gems (fusions included) changes the turn out?
Yes because alot of her attacks were with water.
im honestoy dissapointed w the crewniverse. Lapis could be a great character and peridot too but they barned them and made them comic relief side characters.
Yea,that bummed me out. The reason people want Homeworld Gems redeemed is so they could get screen time and we get to knows them like Garnet Amethyst and Pearl. So they could join the main cast,to see new interactions of foes becoming friends. But no,they've been barned!
Still holding out hope that jasper gets another arc
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dσcтσя єиzумє αρσcαlуρѕє Kimberly Brook pretty much confirmed that she's getting redeemed
HAMILTON!
Yeah, I'd love to see more of her
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When Lapis first tricks and traps Jasper, it feels like she did so to protect Steven. She even told Steven, "Just let me do this for you!" Later it's revealed Lapis just liked taking all her hatred and frustration out on Jasper. That makes her the abuser.
I'm kinda confused on how you worded that. Do you mean that Lapis' original intentions were to protect steven, but later the reason became was because she took her frustration and hatred on Jasper? :o
Basically she was claiming her reasoning was to protect Steven, but she later admitted that it was actually so she could take everything she was feeling out on Jasper.
Well that's what Lapis said but that's just words. She probably did it to have a control over what's going on.
Jasper is sort of a victim of wobbly writing - in Jailbreak and Chille Tid she clearly wanted out. Something happened to make Jasper change her mind. That, or the crew just forgot Jasper clearly hated the fusion.
In my opinion, I think that Lapis did it for both reasons - to protect Steven as well as take out her anger and frustration.
"before i dive deep" i see what you did slice
SliceofOtaku hey slice can you see the other comment I dropped for you to see? It's about what I think of jasper and what she went through! Please just take a look! Great video by the way! You rock!
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we all know why people think Jasper is the abuser. we ALL know. she's muscular, she's "manly". we all know that a lot of people these days - particularly a lot of the people who watch this show - think that masculine people cannot be abused. they're always the abusers, whether they actually are or not.
Autumn White yeah fucking sjw's
Autumn White they were both abusive, jasper was abusive to her prior to fusion. And malachite was lapis' revenge for that.
Autumn White the way I, me, myself, see it is that Jasper just fitted that role better than lapis did in the eyes of everyone else. I don't want to victimize Jasper nor do I want to lie when I say she wasn't an abuser and lapis was. I just think they BOTH were to blame for the whole ordeal. I guess Jasper just acted more like the abuser in "alone at sea" typical abuser behavior of victimizing themselves, saying that they have changed and that everything will be better so I guess it was just easier to balmed Jasper? Am I explaining myself?
Autumn White Jasper forced Lapis to fuse when she didn't want to. Lapis reluctantly agreed to it and trapped Jasper to keep the one person she cared about safe "steven". Lapis was pressured but Lapis hates everyone and mainly want to protect steven.
There are those few seconds zoomed out with the ocean in view and then on Lapis' face before she extends her hand - this is a clear indicator of deception. Lapis takes her time, literally. Lapis never behaves like she feels threatened, because she knows she has nothing to fear from Jasper. On top of that, Jasper never abused Lapis - ever. She tugged her around a few times and said some mean things. That does not abuse make. It doesn't matter how much of an asshole someone is - you can't bind them and torture them for months on end.
Something I really want to see in the future in the show is Jasper and Lapis interacting with Topaz and Aquamarine, the relationship between the two feels pretty similar at time's and almost like a reflection of the truth of the Malachite situation with Aquamarine looking pretty innocent and defenseless in a appearance is a lot more dominant then Topaz who although has an intimidating appearance is somewhat at the hands of Aquamarine until she decides to take the wheel like in the end of stuck together. Also seems very likely that Topaz could be the reason why Jasper despises fusion seeing how Topaz is a fusion who's a high ranked gem in yellow diamon's court while jasper this super soldier isn't given that same title, thats interaction I especially want to see.
damn! i never caught this parallel! you're so right about aquamarine & topaz vs. jasper & lapis. good catch.
thanks man :)
Malachite is also my favorite.
1. That design is AMAZING.
2. A fusion between two of my favorite characters (just get Peridot and Topaz in there... come on...).
3. HOLY COW WHAT IS THAT FIGHTING TACTIC!
If/when Jasper gets her arc. For the love of... Whatever, BRING HER BACK.
(Note on Lapis: Can people just STOP taking her for the one and only victim?)
I've always seen Jasper as the one in the relationship that has the mentality that it is their fault that the relationship. The one that has tried time and again to change themselves to better the relationship, even putting whatever pride they have left aside even when the fault is not with them. Malachite, to me, is that twisted sort of relationship where everyone can see that it's terrible and toxic for both parties but both may be feeding off of each other or one (in this case Jasper) is in denial of how bad it really is and is trying to mend what can't be ignored as best they can.
Before I say the rest of this, let me say that I adored Malachite in terms of character and her depth. I thought that she was wonderfully characterized, despite my not liking the abusive relationship she represents. My thoughts on the Jasper/Lapis dynamic and people calling Jasper the abuser is because of Lapis' other actions in episodes like Alone at Sea. As you say with Jasper, you really need to look deeper with Lapis. For instance, when Greg offers to let her steer the boat, Lapis refuses, saying that she shouldn't be in control. She's afraid of being in power because she saw what happened with Malachite, and she was kind of traumatized by it. One of the lesser emphasized parts of abusive relationship (that's still important to keep in mind) is the shifting of the blame on the abuser, making it hard to tell who played what role, and how a toxic relationship can bring out the worst of either member of it because of the cyclical revenge involved. When Jasper made her move to fuse, Lapis knew what she was getting into, and she retaliated against Jasper's aggression by keeping her tied down (literally and figuratively), and Jasper retaliated by breaking the bonds and seizing control of Lapis. During Malachite vs Alexandrite, Malachite had Jasper in full control, judging by the voice. That was Jasper sucking Lapis dry of her strength, a deprivation we saw taking its toll on Lapis later. Again, it's a cycle. Lapis kept Jasper tied down with Malachite to protect Steven, but she developed such a severe hatred for Jasper and her values that it had a lasting toll on her. In my opinion, Alone at Sea was Lapis sharing how toxic Malachite had been for her, and Jasper was doing the same in her own way, as she was craving the strength that hatred was giving her, the opposite reaction that Lapis had, associating power and control with hatred and fear.
10000% AGREED!
This video itself was just perfect, in my opinion Malachite was an incredible fusion and I did love her despite what it was that she stood for. I never understood myself why Jasper was called the abuser but I got tired of writing the same response so I eventually gave up. Once again, thanks for such a great vid about such a lit character~
I feel as if malachite is most complex fusion...even more so than garnet
Well yeah, Garnet is pretty simple when it comes down to it. She's just two lovers with an unbreakable bond. The relationship within Malachite is much more complicated. It can't be described as just one word as 'love' or 'hatred.' Both components of Malachite struggle with internal pain, and they cope by letting out their anger and frustration into their fusion.
Malachite's not my favorite (that title is tied with Alexandrite and Sugilite) but I totally agree with her being strong. Her reasoning for existing is tied with Garnet as the best imo (although they're the only fusions to stay fused for more than 1 episode.) Her debut in Jailbreak gave me shivers. The "spider" like appearance was weird at first but I got used to it.
Obnoxiously Terrific garnet fused for more then one episode ;)
When Slice sais " I love you", my day just brightens up.
I really liked your point about jaspers appearance and how that warps fans’ perception of her!! The show kinda has a history with ‘demonizing’ larger and muscular women (ie sugilite, jasper, topaz even) or, in the case of bismuth, painting her in the wrong. None of the good gems fit that huge, jacked, butch stereotype, yet a lot of the antagonists of the show do. It’s unfair, and I’m glad more people are talking about it!!
Ya know, every gem is weak when compared to BDSM
Bismuth Death Shattering Machine. I'm pretty sure if you shatter a gem during a fusion they would both die
I think only one of the components would die. Why would both die if one of the stones is intact?
Phesheya Bhembe Because they are connected. well, we don't know how it works so...
A.R.D. Project I doubt it, though the other gems involved in said fusion would definitely need time to reform. Not to mention the psychological damage of having been linked to someone who was shattered effecting their physical forms. It wouldn't kill them, but they would feel what it is like to die, as well as the fallen's final moments.
BDSM? You mean Jasper?
Killerainbow BDSM means bismuth death shattering machine
I love this video! I always get shit on by people when i bring up that wasn't Lapis the one who abused Jasper? Iv gotten yelled at because of my opinion. I can't help it. I never saw Jasper as the abuser. The theory fits more with how Lapis is in the newer episodes after Jasper is gone. She broke Peridots recorder and never apologized , she never apologized to Connie trying to drown her. I mean is it that crazy that Lapis is the abuser and not Jasper? Because she never abused Lapis.
Shyrocker123 I agree with the Lapis being an abuser to Jasper, but I don't see why people bring up Peridot and Connie. Peridot was one of her captors then she was asked to play nice and get along, Lapis wanted to be alone and Peridot constantly was trying to force friendship onto her, in order to stop her Lapis was cold and personally attacked her by destroying an object she loved. As for Connie I really saw no on camera opportunity for her to apologize. I understand Lapis isn't a nice character but she isn't a mean one either.
I agree because Lapis knew how bad it was to be imprisoned, and its already been clearly shown Lapis is an emotional abuser. She might have imprisoned Jasper to protect Steven, but that sense of control over jasper def made her sadistic toward Jasper. I think realizing that Lapis had betrayed her, Jasper fought back, only to grow "Stockholm syndrome" / masochist for Lapis feelings and full power. The balance was actually pretty perfect for both characters, however the reason Lapis ran away because she feared how much she actually enjoyed all that power. She was afraid to become addicted like Jasper had become.
Shyrocker123
Yeah, Lapis was an abuser, but I personally think Jasper was an abuser as well. I definitely don't think that "Oh Lapis was the ONLY abuser!" and "Oh Jasper was the ONLY abuser!" Nah. I believe they're both abusers to each other. Malachite is my favorite fusion, excluding Garnet. I would like to see Malachite appear again, but this time more trustful and stable. Not fully stable though, I actually want Jasper and Lapis to keep a small grudge between each other and not completely become "friends."
peridorrito was doing her job
Shyrocker123- Boy, I really have no clue on the extent of this mentality is in the fandom. Most comments I read, people seem to realize it was a toxic relationship on both ends. Both of them fought for dominance, and Lapis, was the one to stay on top. It even came out of her own mouth! So, I can't see why people would just pin it on Jasper. Was Jasper innocent? No. But Lapis' hands are by no means were clean of the situation either.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Wait run Malachite is here-
Kay.Bay. Edits
Ruby’s are red
Sapphires are blue
Malachite is going to flatten you
I love Jasper.
I love Malachite.
I love videos where someone describes these characters and actually gets them.
*Casual Subscribe/like of joy*
Finally! Malachite gets some love!!
I'm not the only one that loves Malachite?!?!
Slice,Lapis is my favorite character and I respect that you don't like her, And I show respect all opions you and everyone has, so Let the keyboard warriors make you laugh,you'll be the only one to win in the end,because when it all comes down to it we all are gonna have hate and love,my point is I love you're videos,and I may disagree with some of it to a slightly point,but please never stop, I love you're video's.
SliceofOtaku So are you,You are amazing and I love every bit of hard work and research into you're videos.
Atleast Someone Else Loves Malachite as much as me
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE this channel. You make sure to look at Steven Universe from perspectives most fans are too closeminded to even consider, and I really, really appreciate that. Keep up the good work, Slice, you've got a good thing going!
Jasper's abuse of Lapis basically comes down to her using fusion - love - for power alone. She asked Lapis to fuse, not because of her feelings for Lapis, but because of her own hunger for power. She was taking advantage of Lapis, and Lapis then turned the tables to become the abuser herself, in retribution to begin with, but in the long run, on account of her own bitterness and anger. Neither of them were the "good" guy in this relationship, which is not just complex and interesting, it's realistic. Most people in an abusive relationship will exhibit abusive behaviour themselves without knowing it. This is why Malachite is so unstable - it's not just one strong gem ordering a weak one around, it's two equally powerful gems constantly trading blows.
bruh even my boyfriend doesnt say "i love you" that passionately
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Is it just me or is Malachite weirdly attractive...
she has that dominatrix charm.. I guess..
She moist... literally.
Roman.Davis she looked really pretty when she first emerged from the ocean with her eyes closed. I think Malachite is beautiful
malachite has the best design and i love the unstable relationship it has. it's the most interesting fusion for me haha
Also do you think Malachite could stand a chance against at least one diamond?
n o
James Kenny don't you mean gem destabilizers?
My favorite fusion is the unknown quartz fusion in the episode "Earthlings". It's just so cool and scary, the way it looks and behaves is like a complete fusion of man and beast and I love it's color scheme. I could gush about it forever but I don't want to.
I absolutely love every time you speak about Jasper because you actually understand her charter and the struggles she’s been put through. And I when you talked about how Lapis abused her I had to stand up and applaud.
You know everyone thinks " OH LAPIS AND PERIDOT ARE THE BEEEEEEST " but they never appreciate how jasper no matter how horrible she might seem, is obeying her homeworld and still has a heart! When she was getting corrupted you could see how she is really afraid and sad she is. You could see how betrayed and horrible she felt, she must have felt that she could have protected pink diamond if she was just stronger!, that's why she acts so feisty and makes it look like she can't feel remorse.... but inside that's all she feels! You have to understand how desperate and confused how this gem is! All she wants to do is make it up to pink diamond and avenge her being shattered! She just needs some help and love! Thanks for reading all this! Please like it so slice of Otaku can see it! Thank you!
No offense to lapis and peridot fans! I respect your liking for these characters! It's just my silly opinion here so no hard feelings!
I honestly don't see why people made Jasper out to be the abuser. It's so obvious from the episode content that Lapis was the bad guy in that situation. Jasper actually did nothing wrong. She thought Lapis was on her side at that point (Lapis was in prison, but only because she was being interrogated and not for being a rebel at that point) and ASKED her to help her win the fight. At no point does she force her. She asks for her consent. And Lapis gives it. If we're using the "fusion is sex" metaphor, Jasper did everything you're supposed to.
It's made especially clear in Alone At Sea. Lapis isn't scared of Jasper, she isn't scared that Jasper's going to hurt her. She's scared of what SHE could do to Jasper. Jasper awoke a dark side of Lapis that she didn't even know existed, a side willing to hurt and punish, and it terrified her.
It's kind of funny seeing Jasper pop out of the water being like:
"Sup" and then going back in being like:"You haven't seen the last of me"
Malachite was the scariest thing in the show, imo. Not based on primal fear like those cluster experiments, with the bodyhorror aspect. But just the lingering, looming since of dread that followed her all the way up to her liberation.
"Jasper is alone, even when she's around others"
*I see what you did there*
i personally love watching the character analysis videos! i think you have a very interesting perspective on malachite and her separate component gems, especially regarding all the abuse controversy in the fandom. i'd be very interested in seeing a character analysis video along the same lines as these about pearl since a bunch of people in the fandom claim that she's an abusive character too.
Malachite's my favorite fusion too! She's amazing!
I remember watching when lapis first appeared and being really excited for her character. I was very disappointed when she turned out so...average? If she’s your favorite character I understand. People tend to like more edgy characters that seem depressing or like there ‘babies’ but I would love to go back and find out more about her. She makes me curious to find out more about her and that is one thing the crewniverse did right.
Steven Universe- All about characters that are both good and bad. There really seems to be no black or white character in the series, all of them fall into a grey area and are always deeper than the 'good guy' or 'bad guy' concept.
one thing ive been thinking of since i watched your jasper analysis video was like... it's been hard for me to accept jasper because im an abuse victim and her displays of physical aggression and violence make me uncomfortable. but like. ive been through a lot of emotional abuse and manipulation as well, but somehow glanced over the scenes where lapis was displaying manipulation and emotional abuse... i think a lot of people, even abuse victims ourselves, internalize this idea that emotional abuse isn't "real" abuse and forgiving emotionally abusive characters and manipulators or looking past their actions... i dunno. it's obviously a lot harder to recognize but yeah
SliceofOtaku Yeah! One thing I've come across a lot in this fandom is people who are like "why does it matter, why would you debate about it, why do you care, it's just a cartoon, they're just fictional characters, don't get so worked up about it" but these stories and characters really do matter because they can represent real issues in a very real way and that's important to people who have been through similar struggles, victories, emotions, relationships, and developments that we see our favorite characters having. So it's important to keep conversations going about representation and the serious aspects of the show and characters !!!
kittykat490 so many people don’t seem to think emotional abuse is not real abuse because the scars are not seen on the outside
I just wanted to say that as another victim of abuse jaspers actions and words also made me uncomfortable and were unsettlingly familiar. I pretty much related to everything you said so thank you for putting it into words because I certainly didn’t know how to.
Man, I really enjoy videos where characters are broken down like this. Their themes brought to light, their mentalities explained, and so on.
It just helps give a greater appreciation for those characters, as well as open eyes to ideas that hadn't been explored before. Thanks SliceofOtaku for the awesome video!
I never thought about why she was living in the water, really made me see that whole season in a different light
I am so glad you touched on the issues of Malachite while acknowledging that they are a powerful fusion. I will admit I was in the boat of "Jasper was the 'abuser' until later on when we Jasper beg to get back with Lapis and then what happens with her fusing with corrupted gems, the consequences be darned.
At first I was interested in Malachite but didn't particularly love her.
Now after this video I can't help but gush with love and affection at how complex a fusion malachite is. It would be bad if she came back, but I can't help but kind of wonder how that fusion would be if Jasper was redeemed and more at peace with herself.
Malachite was always my favorite fusion, solely on her first introduction with Jasper and Lapis's fusion dance.
Also you can't believe how happy I am to hear someone else say how Lapis was pretty much the abuser of the relationship equivalent of the fusion.
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To be honest, I never saw Malachite as an abusive relationship. I know that's how most people interpreted it, but I saw it more as a BDSM relationship that needed to form boundaries/a safe word. So, not an inherently bad relationship, but a greatly misunderstood one. I'm gonna be honest here; Jasper has the makings of a masochist, and Lapis has the makings of a sadist. sado-masochism just makes sense for them. There's actually a lot there when you look at that relationship with that in mind.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm crazy, but that's honestly how I saw their interactions. Especially since Jasper, not Lapis, was the one who was "abused," and I love Lapis to death, but she never struck me as a victim. Not in regards to Malachite. Then, at the beginning of her fight with Alexandrite, Lapis and Jasper started working together, and their fusion was incredible. Basically, they agreed on some boundaries and started reinventing and reassessing their relationship. Malachite was on the brink of becoming a more stable fusion when Alexandrite separated them, and I think the only reason Lapis and Jasper were split apart was because they had only just started figuring out who they were together and what they could do together. I think if Lapis had agreed to fuse with Jasper in "Alone at Sea," it would have been as though they sat down, talked about what they liked and didn't like the first time, made everything clear, and both consented this time. Then we would've gotten a stable Malachite (aka, a healthy BDSM relationship).
my favorite fusion:
smol space dorito...
she's a fusion of an Xbox, key lime pie, mt. dew, and a cat...
I like how the crewniverse used Malichite to show not only what goes on in a mutually abusive relationship, but also how they used the memory of her to show the aftermath. Jasper starting to believe that she's only powerful if she's fused with someone showing how one side can end up feeling worthless without a partner, and Lapis developing PTSD not only from what she went through but also from what she did, it's beautiful.
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She was like a homophobe who found that she had feelings for the same gender, but also a bad person who a good one took advantage of and abused. Redemption trampled by toxicity. A recipe for disaster. Can we just get Jasper a hug? She deserves it by now.
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I still hope the show delves further into Lapis's past. Specifically when Jasper tells Steven got his shield pointed at the "wrong person". An 80 gem killing machine regards a Terraforming Lapis as a threat greater than herself. I think Lapis let more of her darker side slip out when she was chaining the pair of them under the ocean.
Malachite is my favorite fusion and Lapis is my favorite gem, but you're right that after alone at sea Lapis went downhill. She went from a gem wiling to do terrible things to help her friend, with parallels to pearl, to a pointless. Like peridot, the writers "stripped them of their dignity."
My favorite fusion is the lovely sardonyx
It's really herd to choose my favorite fusion. I do REALLY love malachite though, A LOT! And one little thing I always loved about her is how her voice can change from lapis's voice to Jasper's
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Jasper "asking" Lapis to fuse was not a choice, it was an ultimatum. Jasper told Lapis to just say yes while holding her down from fleeing. Lapis took that and spun it back onto Jasper.
Additionally, Jasper was introduced into the series as a "bad guy," and that's largely why lots of people (myself included) initially felt like Jasper was the abusive one.
I've come to see their relationship how you see it, but I think you overlooked a part of the explanation as to why people might have seen it the other way around.
Aside from that, I loved this video and you've helped me appreciate Malachite so much more than before! I love your videos! Keep up the good work :D
I just rewatched the scene, and Jasper lets go of Lapis after she asks. There was a choice, and Lapis took advantage of it.
I'm honestly just waiting for people claiming Jasper was the abuser to just admit they only see her as an abuser because she's more masculine than Lapis. How else can they justify this when Lapis outright admits she liked hurting Jasper like ??? Even as someone who liked Lapis, after really watching the episodes over again it was really hard *NOT* to see her as an abuser.
Jasper *asks* her to fuse, Lapis wasn't forced she chose to fuse in order to imprison Jasper and hurt her considering the crystal gems would have taken her out easily. Then when Jasper tried to leave she forced her to stay so she could continue hurting her while using protecting Steven as an excuse, then she flat out admits that she enjoyed hurting her and took everything out on her.
Jasper's whole "i've changed' thing sounds WAY more like a person with stockholm syndrome.
I want skinny jasper and lapis to fuse to make a "stable" melachite
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Malachite might have an amazing background and stuff, but they're also really frickin cool! Love their color palette.
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I absolutely love your opinions on Lapis and Jasper. They are so spot on.
I'm here for this analysis. Also, Mr.Slice if you haven't seen the movie Perfect Blue you should really check it out such an incredible psychological thriller that I think you'd love. Anyways wish you the best I love you!
I've watched SU all the way through like five times now, but there are so many ideas you present in your videos that I've never before considered. Thank you for taking the time to share this with us.
i love lapis and she's crazy powerful but my favorite fusion is opal...jus love everything about opal
Unique fusion that is built from two strongest characters who is also most badass fusion? Fuck yeah she is amazing! I personally love how, when Malachite was around, she sounded like she was Lapis and Jasper talking and acting together in one body as oppose to two individuals mixing into new one. It was different. And say all you want, but crystal gems would never defeat Jasper or Malachite fairly. Moral? She is the most real and amazing fusion ever.
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A cool feature that I love about Malachite is that she doesn't have her own voice actress. She instead just has Lapis and Jasper's actresses speaking at the same time. I feel as though this is very symbolic of their relationship as Malachite, being that they do not agree on any part of what they are doing, and that while they are fused physically, they are still miles apart mentally.
This point is only valid when makite is near water really
jasper going and asking lapis to fuse again seems kinda like Harley Quinn going back to the joker in the animated series doesn't it?
Malachite only defeated Alexandrite easily because they were at the ocean, where they can use their powers with an enourmous extent. Alexandrite would win easily if they were in a middle of a desert or in a place without water
EDIT: Lol, malachite didn't, I'm dumb
lmao, you mean the only reason malachite lost is because of the watermelon stevens, which were thankfully able to distract her. Otherwise, she would've definitely been able to poof and likely shatter Alexandrite.
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Malachite had the higher ground on the fight (just like obi wan). She had an ocean to help her hydrokinesys and Alexandrite only had her weapons and the flamethrower. Malachite is indeed a strong fusion and if she have the high ground (the water in this case) she can really make things
But I think Alexandrite isn't that weak, and if they fought in other place withou so many water the battle could be faster to Alexandrite's side
A.R.D. Project Kinda like how Lapis is stronger in the ocean?
Airmanon exactly
I honestly agree with the part about I asked living in the water. I personally feel as if jasper continuously returned back to the ocean to be in that same mental state she was in while being imprisoned as malachite.
Sorry but i love lapis the way she is
She doesn't take shit from anyone
She's not a follower
She doesn't feel the need to help everyone
She's not to nice
She's a chill character
And she's calm minded doesn't give af about anyone like me and i just love that about her :)
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I think Lapis acts that way
Because if anyone else starts to like her (exceptions are Steven and maybe Peridot)
Then they'll fuse again, so she acts mean to not repeat history
Lol sounds like you got problems if you are like that. She isn't "calm minded" just hateful. She is mad at everything, like a perpetually pissed chick that no one would enjoy as company. It's only when she opens up and lightens up that she becomes remotely likeable.
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Lapis: gets trapped in a mirror for possibly more than 5000 years
Jasper: trapped for months and gets sympathized
Logic
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Malachite is aesthetics asf too, I was originally surprised and kinda wierded out by her design, and as time went on I began to love it. Also, WATER POWERS!!! ;D
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Oh my gosh yes. Malachite was my favorite before this video and now only stands stronger
I think the reason why people keep thinking Jasper was the abuser in the situation was two factors, and it has nothing to do with appearance:
1. Despite Jasper asking permission, it seemed greedy for her to just want to fuse with Lapis. All she wanted from the fusion was something one sided, not on a common goal.
There are two debunks to this. Firstly, Jasper could see fusion way different from the cast, as a power thing than a relationship. Lastly, despite the fact Lapis was a prisoner to them, she could've believe that they were on the same page, though this second point is super speculative than real debunking fact.
2. Like you said, Jasper's words and her actions during Lost at Sea really come across as the whole stereotype, which is kind of stupid. SU usually doesn't like "in your face shit". Let's give them the benefit of the doubt for a moment with that, and focus more on Lapis and Jasper. If SU tried making Jasper the abuser, then they did a poor job at it sadly. If they tried making Lapis to be the abuser, once again, bad job. Only way they can salvage this idea further, is if they bring it up in the future in some way, but this is kind of doubtful.
(Keep in my this last statement is my personal opinion) It's now just a dissatisfying end, to an engaging plot thread with a ton of potential, with poorer writing/direction than as hoped. Least Jaspers part after Lost at Sea was engaging in it's own ways, even up to her corruption.
(Could be wrong on certain things, so take this with a grain of salt)
「A Guy In A Tophat」 jasper didn't ask permission to fuse, she grabbed lapis while she was trying to fly away and demanded she fuse, lapis didnt or at least (probably) believed she didn't have any choice aside from "consenting" to the fusion
Had a feeling I had something wrong there. Thanks for the clarification.
Now of course anyone could say "Lapis could've easily sent Jasper flying into the water", but really, in Lapis' eyes, maybe she thought otherwise, so I totally agree with you there. But even with that still in effect, it's kind of hard not to see both being abusers to one another, rather than one party being a victim, unless I'm missing some details.
「A Guy In A Tophat」 I see where you're coming from with them both being abusers but I view it more as a victim of abuse finally getting the upper hand on her abuser (and possibly taking it too far) as a victim of abuse I can verify that it is very easy to go too far when you finally fight back because the fear of what they will do to you for fighting back creates a feedback loop
but the line between fighting back and "mutual abuse" seems to be thin and blurry so in this case I think either view is fine (because they are fictional characters)
I can totally see that connection myself, and the more I thought of it after the comment, I felt a bit dumb not thinking of that point. Just glad you were the one to bring it up!
As for that loop, it can be human nature for vengeance or wanting "justice", and very easily abuse this blind judgment. Tends to warp your morality and mentality in some cases, becoming the very thing you hate.
I agree. Little blurry, which can be okay if it was intentional, which I'm not their writers, so I don't know. Regardless if the writing was that of Edgar Allen Poe, or a 12 year old on Fanfic sites, the concept no matter what is interesting. I'd prefer it to be done right, but at least the attempt was made, allowing others to try out this concept themselves, and maybe have their own take on the idea.
strength does not define whether it is the best or not, as Dumbledore said: It is our choices that reveal what we really are, much more than our qualities.
I definitely agree that Lapis was abusing Jasper. Jasper began to need the abuse because, even if it was negative, she was still getting attention and wasn't alone. That is extremely unhealthy for someone and that's why Malachite is my least favorite fusion. I love both Lapis and Jasper and I don't like what that fusion did to either of them. I know that it was Lapis' choice to take Jasper prisoner, but she was doing it to protect Steven so I don't hate her for what she did, and it definitely hurt her mental health too. Sure they might be kinda similar based on the points in your video and they're super powerful and they look beautiful (minus the doofy legs), etc., but I will never be supportive of it because of how toxic the fusion was. I will fully support Jasper and Lapis making up in a redemption arc, but I don't think Malachite should make a reappearance unless both parties have moved on and the situation is dire
All that being said, I'm really glad things happened the way they did. I'm glad the show touched on such a serious subject because kids do need to learn about things like abuse and, for kids who are abused, show that people can move on and be happy (another reason I NEED a Jasper redemption)
Malachite is my favorite fusion, but I don't support it. I just think she's interesting (abusive relationships are a topic that I have a scary fascination for). On a separate note (kinda), do you know that people actually ship Jasper and Lapis?
HiMyNameIsWeirdo yeah I do and I really hate the idea. Like I know all this makes for a really good story but it just makes me think of real abusive relationships and it puts a bad taste in my mouth, you know?
Kerri Yeah, I definitely don't think Jasper and Lapis should be together, but I do believe there needs to be some closure between them. Kind of like how Greg and Pearl finally made up, except Lapis and Jasper definitely need a lot more time for healing (and I don't just mean corruption).
I personally want Lapis to be the one who requests Jasper's release in a time of desperation, have them sit down and TALK, and after it all I want Malachite to say something along the lines of, "We are me, and I am happy." Ending with a new permafuse!
Nah... honestly I haven't seen much of Steven Universe. However I have kept up with the story. And honestly it feels like Jasper has already played her part. Bringing her back would really serve no purpose to the story...
I didn't even realize that Jasper was essentially trying to recreate Malachite without Lapis by dwelling in the ocean
I love watching your videos because of how much is discussed and how your show takes different perspectives
Malachite is cool
I agree with you 100%. Malachite is awesome. The internal struggle between those two characters was way more than I was expecting from a cartoon. I am still disappointed with the way Lapis has turned out (I feel for what she went through, but that doesn't give her an excuse to be abusive towards another and take out her anger on them). I'm still hopeful she will be developed more. And Jasper is one of my favorite characters. I don't want her to come back and turn all good since that wouldn't be believable ...but I think an anti-hero. I would like to see Lapis and Jasper's relationship develop into a healthy one. Thanks for the videos....they are fun!
Yeah I love her, she's my favourite fusion, but she was an example of abuse. Their relationship was unhealthy. And As much as I love her character design, and things like that, I never want to see her again. And when you said she pleaded, lapis was right to say no, again abuse. It is common to say, "I've change"d, or "I'm different now." Did you not see the look on lapis' face? Yes, *lapis* was abusing jasper, but she knew it. Jasper knew as well, but she wanted it to stay that way, she wanted to continue this hideous cycle. I do believe that jasper can change, but it would take time and effort. And, moral of the story, malachite FTW? No. Moral of the story, abuse is not a good thing, you don't need a partner to be powerful. You treat lapis, as a joke, when her character is meant to be teaching people about abuse. You say you don't hate her, and that's good, but you are missing the point. Lapis was about teaching lessons about abuse, not about being your favourite gem, and having no flaws. Sorry for the long post/rant, it's just now I'm torn wether to sub and tell my friends about you, or to not. Sorry.
You made me love Jasper and Malachite so much.
im sorry for my misunderstanding of the way you feel about lapis
You know what I appreciate about Malachite physical form? Her body is a consistent of grabbing complexities. Everything is just latching and holding on to the problems/goals and they wouldn't let go.
And by holding on it does become stronger what it was previously. And I just adore how much it reflects their minds.
The one word to describe Lapis is, meh.
I really liked this video and always appreciate your work for character analysis because while it has a short track record and isn't fully realized, it's very engaging and promising. I can't wait to see more as you dive into new characters in the future. Malachite is a very interesting choice, but I can see why you love her so much from this video. Best of Luck on your computer project!