In today's video we will be talking about Logan Paul, Prime, Tommy The Lawyer and more Second Channel - / @callummarkie2 My Instagram is @callummarkie / callummarkie
even worse, he made logan paul factually correct. so not only being rational, articulate and of normal intelligence but he made logan paul correct. the end is nigh...
@@kaylahaas So did they ever find more water sources with those contaminants? I moved to michigan a few years ago but am now moving back to cali and I am just super curious. I was in Traverse City btw. We were always so scared to drink any of the tap water
try and find homes or places with well water, if I live in a MI city I get bottles or a filter. My ma has cancer & is cautious with PFAS so we don’t sweat it, but prefer our well & bottles over the city water. The pipes have been fixed but with city line flushing & other whatnot we just chose to take our own control! Welcome back to MI tho!
could people PLEASE stick to their occupations? if you're a lawyer, stick to talking about law and don't venture into medicine/food science, especially if what's gonna come out your mouth is utter bs
tbf he is a lawyer talking about a lawsuit... but i'm curious to know what kind of law he practices tho, because i highly doubt it's anything related to this
Lawyers fact check stuff as a career. He's just bad at checking facts. At least in the way that an analogy would be 1+3=5 but he can't wrap his head around math. You're generally right. If you can't swim get out of the pool. But this wasn't rocket science. He didn't need to be a chemist to not muck the facts all the way up. He didn't do someone else's job wrong. He did his own job wrong.
This kind of thing makes me furious because it minimizes the genuine complaints against this company, and drowns them out with “Logan Paul confirms he is not selling us poison”.
Just curious, what are the genuine complaints against them? I've only ever heard of this and the selling to underagers claim, which I agree with Markie, isn't something the company controls. I'm yet to hear a founded complaint against Prime other than the fact their drinks just aren't that good 😂
@@pixiesouter9461i mean, true, I've never really heard much about prime as a company Then again, being owned by Logan "CryptoZoo" Paul is more than enough for me to not acknowledge it so i never looked into it
You don't accuse a shoplifter of bank robbery just to get them arrested. They may not be the best person, but you don't accuse them of a worse crime just to get a twisted form of justice.
@@MrNorker77 but but but... every police show proved that you need to frame the bad guy to get them arrested and it is ok to do it, because "i feel it in my gut". it is either that or torturing or selling them out to a rival gang. isn't that how police work is done?
This is why lawyers can't be trusted to be chemists any more than chemists can be lawyers. Dude didn't understand what all those teeny tiny numbers meant.
That's what the job does to you. It pays well but it destroys your soul. I quit at the training contract phase because I discovered that I loved law school but hated the actual job.
Any time a little kid ends up with a terrible disease it seems to be very normal for the parents to lash out in some way trying to figure out a cause. Sometimes this process includes suing random products their child consumed. Unfortunately these things just happen sometimes, but that's not a satisfactory answer for a distraught parent.
i read into it & it really seems like the kid’s mom is looking to point fingers at anything & everything for “causing” her kid to have leukemia when it really doesn’t work like that
@@seichethebobcat It's so weird to blame things.. like why not look into the family history? Can leukemia even be caused? Like I know lung, throat, skin, and those types of cancers can be caused but I don't think Leukemia can be caused like that..
We have lawyers reacting to cases all the time. The problem is this guy is grossly misinformed, highly exaggerative, and/or malevolent in his TL:DR "analysis".
They can talk about it, but it hurts their case in court to give out their plan, and it might hurt them in jury selection if it goes to court in front of a jury. Just like a coach talking about an upcoming game. You shouldn't give direct strategy or talk about the other team directly, it's just a bad look and it looks even worse after losing lol.
if his firm hadn't been contacted about it, I think it would be fine, pretty sure it is probably frowned upon to openly talk about a case you or your firm is representing(i could be wrong, and will happily take corrections if I am). Also depends on the lawyer cause there is a lawyer here on youtube who won't cover cases in his state for various reasons until AFTER they finished or he knows he won't be visiting the court room for it, he explains his reasons in a few of his videos I just can't remember them off the top of my head
Fellow Aussie here! The first time I saw Prime wasn’t in an a Coles or Woolies, it was an empty one outside my local shops that someone had made into a bong 😂 I laughed so hard and took a picture of it.
If the child who had cancer had had nothing but Prime hydration to drink day after day, a connection might be made, but to make a claim like that about a drink one is likely to consume only occasionaly is so insane.
You should meet the kids in the uk. They do basically consume nothing but prime. It's so out of control in the uk there are shops, newsagents, that are selling certain bottles and flavours for huge amounts of money to children. They fanboying and hype is just ridiculous
That line, "correlation does not imply causation", is what this example of the child supposedly developing leukemia from prime shows. The lawyer needed to do a better job at what he was saying to cover his own azz. Again, he created a situation where folks defend JP! Allegedly!
"There is a child who has leukemia from drinking Prime." I beg your unbelievable pardon?! That is so freaking out there that you could probably argue that its not defamation because no one would take it seriously.
You say that, but i remember a case in the 2000’s where a woman claimed axe body spray killed her son. Not from misuse or anything that the chemicals in it killed her son when he used it as intended. Everyone reacted like you, they lost the case in court and everyone was like “of course!🤪” but then several years later it got overturned because a lab finally was able to determine which chemicals were in it that AXE didn’t put on the label, and one of them did in fact kill the kid. I’m not saying this drink “gave a kid leukemia” cause lukemia is much more complex than just having it or not, but i am saying that you can’t KNOW it didn’t with ~common sense~
My partner and i tasted a few flavours, they werent pleasant. Im glad we got them on sale. On the upside, the bottles are made really well and make solid bongs.
I love Food Science Babe! She talks about how she use to buy into a lot of the fear mongering until she started to work in food development and labeling. I always appreciate her break downs.
Why is it so hard for some people to just admit when they were wrong 💀I mean I find when I do that and learn from my mistakes, I end up feeling more secure in my own character to grow and be a better person in the end This unhealthy grip to their ego will inevitably result in worse outcomes
You and people like you speak the truth and are very mature for it, but unfortunately, many people, especially online, are too cowardly and self-absorbed to admit whenever they are wrong. It also doesn't help if these people are in an echo chamber with like minded people constantly telling them how amazing they are for not owning up to their mistakes. 😑
The lawyer is trying to use this for a shock value but the fact that PFAs could be present doesn’t surprise me at all because yeah our drinking water sucks over here. Where I live a PFAS manufacturing company has been releasing chemicals into the river since the 80s and they have similar sites across the country. A recent study found 99.9% of our town’s residents had PFAs in our blood and PFAs and other legacy chemicals were also found in our town’s treated drinking water tanks. One of the only ways to remove it is with reverse osmosis, which is expensive to implement on a large scale.
I think someone needs to check on his family. He recently got fired this year and has made some....off and seemingly emotionally distressed videos about it. They were a little off.
Omg this reminds me of when Sunny D came out and they discovered if you drank too much it started turning you orange. How dare this man make Logan Paul sound like the rational one and make us defend him. The world is coming to an end!
Most lawyers on tiktok make more money off tiktok than they do as lawyers. Like this guy isn’t a trial lawyer, he doesn’t get a case and work with a defendant and go to court, he sits in an office and reviews paperwork on a team of paperwork reviewers. They’re just worker drones with big degrees
I will say, im impressed by how much logan paul seems to know about the business. Most celebs just slap their name on a thing and walk away, but he seems to be very involved in the process. Good for him!
The county I live in discovered super high levels pfas in our drinking water from the foam that was used to put out a fire at a nearby airport and now we have to have a drinking water dispenser. It's been a nightmare to deal with!
You know, this situation reminds me of the Alec Baldwin video that surfaced recently. A person was repeatedly harassing him and he knocked the phone out of her hand. Is Alec Baldwin shit? Sure. But I actually defend him in that situation cause if someone was all up in MY face I would be pissed too. Logan Paul is in the right here. Can’t believe I’m saying it.
Where I live in the USA you can sell coffee to anyone, but energy drinks & caffeine pills can only be sold to 18+. My state also raised the smoking & vaping age to 21, so I think they're more strict than other states.
@@haxan_3567 I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same thing they did back in the day with alcohol. No state 'has' to raise their age of restriction, but if they don't then they might have some funding for things such as interstates cut.
It's tricky, as someone else pointed out, research is part of their job. *But* he clearly has no idea what he's talking about and obviously needed an expert to decode his findings before sounding off on tiktok.
People like this lawyer really need to learn that it's okay to not give your take on every situation. IT IS OKAY TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. If you aren't an expert on a certain subject (in this case, PFAS), maybe don't throw around huge accusations that could land you in major hot water against a company. And he just kept going! Like dude, you're already buried. Stop digging deeper!
Looks like the lawyer is going to go bankrupt after he settles the court case he is about to be slapped with. Damn, it's crazy that people who are smart enough to become lawyers can act so dumb when it comes to false allegations.
This reminds me of this very unethical testing lab that will test products (sunscreens, hair spray, things like that) for companies and every time the product ends up testing for various cancer causing chemicals and then there’s always some media attention around it. I can’t remember how it was found out, but it ended up being some companies paying this unethical testing lab to skew results to give those competitors products a bad name to consumers.
That doesn't surprise me at all! It's so unbelievably common for even small businesses to make up bald face, pseudoscience lies in order to scare people into buying their products over others'. It's actually disgusting, but these end up going viral and becoming mainstream misconceptions, like all US food, and somehow never anywhere else, having ingredients that cause cancer 🙄
You would think as a lawyer he would know better to talk about this if it’s an actual open lawsuit…..especially with the words and language he’s using to imply things.
I don't think it's an actual law but most stores won't serve you energy drinks under 16. I remember still getting ID'd for a red bull when I was 18 because I looked younger 😅
@@CallumMarkieand in the US I believe our ingredients/serving sizes are also wayyyyyy more sugary and caffeinated than across the pond. So no age restrictions, and way more health risks 🤦🏻♀️
In Sweden it is restricted to 16+. Kids tend to have less body mass and it's easier to get a toxic dose of caffeine then. It's much easier to consume a whole lot of coffee from energy drinks, with brew that really isn't a thing.
"The FDA were asked to investigate" I'm guessing this is true, sort of. If I was going to try filing this kind of lawsuit, I'd find some way to contact the FDA and ask them to investigate. Can't imagine they would from one random complaint, but it might create some form of paper trail I could point to. And, who knows, they might and find something that would improve my case.
I’m sorry, but the one thing I don’t agree with you on is the fact that he’s not selling this to kids, because he is. It’s not illegal to buy a caffeine drink in the store when you’re under the age of 18. The stores have nothing to do with it, but the marketing certainly does and it’s aimed towards children.
Most kids are drinking the Prime Hydration not the Prime Energy. I’m not saying there aren’t some kids drinking PE but I definitely don’t think it’s the amount people think. As the mom of a 12 year old, football player, wrestler, basketball player, and track/runner all of the kids we’re around are drinking Prime Hydration, not to mention it’s the parents responsibility to not purchase or allow their children to purchase the caffeinated version not Logan’s job.
My husband works at a water treatment plant that makes pretty good water. They treat lake water and turn it into drinking water. There are pretty specific guidelines and regulations on the water and the quantity of chemicals used in the process. I believe it was last year when there were some regulations on PFAS talked about. The levels that were being talked and that they were expected to get too were crazy. They PPT numbers were literally impossible to regulate because the technology to measure it didn’t exist. Now I myself don’t work there and I haven’t asked my husband in a while so maybe this has changed. I do know that usually water treatment plants supply water that has passed all government regulations to factories and then they use that to make their products. Some might be supplying raw water, for example the paper mill in our town gets raw water, but they aren’t making consumable products. I would be really shocked to learn that the prime factory isn’t starting with finished treated water (again that is safe for consumption straight from the water treatment plant) and then filtering is agin and then using that to make their products.
if a company is advertising targetign toward children (going off whatever countries definition is) then you can very much go after the company for kids buying those products....that's why they went for prime..not just the shops that were selling against local country caffine laws. (doesn't mean it was successful but that's just why)
Let's try something new/ old. If you have kids you watch them, I already raised mine. Tag, you're it! I'm not willing to give up my freedom because parents don't supervise their own children. Get a grip. Generation X here, half of you idiots can't count money, won't touch money, blame your damn parents! We don't care.
I personally find Prime revolting. It tastes like a cheap melted popsicle. The kind in the plastic tubes. Makes my throat hurt. 😅🤢🤮 Edit .. You have age limits on caffeine in the UK?!
That is a very common misconception due to pseudoscience fear-mongering. Food* Science Babe is a seriously great person to follow to start seeing more scientific info about these urban legends about food
He said "A young boy who has leukaemia after drinking Prime Hydration." That's pretty obviously a claim that Prime gives you cancer right? There's no OTHER way that sentence could be taken surely.
The only thing you need to know about prime is: The cans are the "energy" and have high caffiene and suggested for over 16's The plastic bottles are "hydration" and are caffiene free so can be sold for kids to drink Neither contain poison - although it is always the dose that makes the poison as you can overdose on good old fashioned water!!
Huh I didn't actually know that I've never had prime and given that I've never had good things about the flavour don't plan to do I was actually unaware of that
I get so annoyed when people of a certain caliber (licensed in other fields) just assume they know and understand an entirely different field based on their distorted perception of their knowledge because “I’m smart.” 😒
The lawyer asking to "talk about it" seems to just be looking to create some event to leech off of Paul's fame. He's practically salivating at how many views he'll get if Paul joins him on a live.
Ngl I was given a strawberry banana prime drink that wasn't caffeinated. I was actually upset at how much I enjoyed the flavor. It was like a Powerade but tastier. Don't wanna give that man my money so I won't buy it but I'd be lying if I said it tasted awful.
Chemist here. The lawyer is f-ed. The detection limit are to high, the "lawsuit" and the analysis "made by a lawyer" (which sound terrible for credibility IMO) are not values that can be considered real, so there a high chance there is no analysis or the lawyer grabed the value of background noise in an analysis as being presence of PFOS. And he is F-ed because with the videos, a lawyer can prove without a shadow of a doubt that Tommy lied intentionally, which fulfills the almost impossible standard of a defamation suit. He is f-ed is Paul tries to sue him, would be an immediate win for Paul.
I still find it funny that in the UK so many supermarkets and corner shops stock bought so much Prime thinking it would make them a huge profit from flying off the shelves Nope Hardly anyone buys it here as Monster is more popular So shops had to discount the Prime drinks Places that were selling them for £4 a can now sells them for just under or over £1
This guy is out here going on about a lawsuit his firm is involved in, if I’m understanding this correctly? This is, at the very least, grounds for his firm to fire him, and at most this is ripe for an ethics case against him. He should have focused on discovery and speaking to experts instead of blasting his client’s business on TikTok.
Caffeine purchases aren’t regulated in the states, there’s no laws for age requirements at all. I’ve never heard of them doing that anywhere outside of the states either
How dare they make us defend Logan Paul!
RIGHT?!
Feels weird.
I hate that Logan Paul is seeming logical and rational here. How bad are you at lawyering to make Logan Paul look good against you.
@@jenniferredd1430honestly? Very, very bad. I pity anyone that's represented by him in court
I feel dirty.
Imagine being so bad at lawyering that Logan Paul looks like a rational person!
It's even worse. He made Logan Paul look articulate and intelligent too! Where's my bell of shame?
even worse, he made logan paul factually correct. so not only being rational, articulate and of normal intelligence but he made logan paul correct.
the end is nigh...
I feel like at the rate of TikTok Drama going on, Markie will go through EVERY. OCCUPATION.
I am waiting for sheep herder drama, goat milking drama, or some Nun drama.😅
As an administrative professional, I am just waiting for the executive assistant TikTok drama
@@ResinAlchemist2024 I'm curious about crime scene cleanup drama, something really weird like that.
Cat food taste tester drama any day now.
I’m waiting for the dog groomer drama next 😂😂😂
This lawyer is going to get his mind blown if he ever finds out about Flint Michigan.
dudes mind will be blown. I’m from Flint. 😬
@@kaylahaas So did they ever find more water sources with those contaminants? I moved to michigan a few years ago but am now moving back to cali and I am just super curious. I was in Traverse City btw. We were always so scared to drink any of the tap water
try and find homes or places with well water, if I live in a MI city I get bottles or a filter. My ma has cancer & is cautious with PFAS so we don’t sweat it, but prefer our well & bottles over the city water. The pipes have been fixed but with city line flushing & other whatnot we just chose to take our own control! Welcome back to MI tho!
Flint Michigan still does not have clean drinking water 10 years later.
could people PLEASE stick to their occupations? if you're a lawyer, stick to talking about law and don't venture into medicine/food science, especially if what's gonna come out your mouth is utter bs
tbf he is a lawyer talking about a lawsuit... but i'm curious to know what kind of law he practices tho, because i highly doubt it's anything related to this
Who wants to wager he's a property lawyer? @@gerrrb
This is why experts are necessary as witnesses.
Lawyers fact check stuff as a career. He's just bad at checking facts. At least in the way that an analogy would be 1+3=5 but he can't wrap his head around math. You're generally right. If you can't swim get out of the pool. But this wasn't rocket science. He didn't need to be a chemist to not muck the facts all the way up. He didn't do someone else's job wrong. He did his own job wrong.
This is why you get experts for the court testimony, not just the lawyer trying to do their own research into something they have no clue about
This kind of thing makes me furious because it minimizes the genuine complaints against this company, and drowns them out with “Logan Paul confirms he is not selling us poison”.
Just curious, what are the genuine complaints against them? I've only ever heard of this and the selling to underagers claim, which I agree with Markie, isn't something the company controls. I'm yet to hear a founded complaint against Prime other than the fact their drinks just aren't that good 😂
@@pixiesouter9461i mean, true, I've never really heard much about prime as a company
Then again, being owned by Logan "CryptoZoo" Paul is more than enough for me to not acknowledge it so i never looked into it
I read the title and thought we were getting another Janet video 😂
Same
Jannette *
Same!!!!
I assumed dui guy lawyer that got famous by going to the Depp trial
When I first saw a clip of this guy, Jeanette was the first thing I thought about 😂
When people say, "Look at my lawyer dawg, I'm going to jail 😭", this is who they're talking about
You don't accuse a shoplifter of bank robbery just to get them arrested. They may not be the best person, but you don't accuse them of a worse crime just to get a twisted form of justice.
Harvey Weinstein is the perfect example for this. As has been pointed out, don't frame a guilty person.
@@MrNorker77 but but but...
every police show proved that you need to frame the bad guy to get them arrested and it is ok to do it, because "i feel it in my gut".
it is either that or torturing or selling them out to a rival gang.
isn't that how police work is done?
This is why lawyers can't be trusted to be chemists any more than chemists can be lawyers. Dude didn't understand what all those teeny tiny numbers meant.
that lawyer looks dead behind his eyes... I dunno how to explain
but how dare he make us defend Logan Paul??
That's what the job does to you. It pays well but it destroys your soul. I quit at the training contract phase because I discovered that I loved law school but hated the actual job.
A lying liar lying about a liar lying 😂
lol
Lies😂
Oof, this made my brain hurt, lol! 😵💫
A circle of lies.
Buuut I wonder how much LP is paying that lawyer to make his company “look good”? It’s not out of character. In my opinion. Allegedly.
How much is the kid drinking to claim he has leukemia based sole on his intake of an energy drink? That claim by itself is very complicated.
Can you imagine how much all that drink would cost?!
I am wondering what nut gives their kid ENERGY drinks?
Any time a little kid ends up with a terrible disease it seems to be very normal for the parents to lash out in some way trying to figure out a cause. Sometimes this process includes suing random products their child consumed. Unfortunately these things just happen sometimes, but that's not a satisfactory answer for a distraught parent.
i read into it & it really seems like the kid’s mom is looking to point fingers at anything & everything for “causing” her kid to have leukemia when it really doesn’t work like that
@@seichethebobcat It's so weird to blame things.. like why not look into the family history? Can leukemia even be caused? Like I know lung, throat, skin, and those types of cancers can be caused but I don't think Leukemia can be caused like that..
Should this lawyer even be talking about an ongoing lawsuit on tik tok????
We have lawyers reacting to cases all the time. The problem is this guy is grossly misinformed, highly exaggerative, and/or malevolent in his TL:DR "analysis".
I believe lawyers are allowed to talk about ongoing lawsuits as long as they're not involved/representing someone in the case.
They can talk about it, but it hurts their case in court to give out their plan, and it might hurt them in jury selection if it goes to court in front of a jury. Just like a coach talking about an upcoming game. You shouldn't give direct strategy or talk about the other team directly, it's just a bad look and it looks even worse after losing lol.
if his firm hadn't been contacted about it, I think it would be fine, pretty sure it is probably frowned upon to openly talk about a case you or your firm is representing(i could be wrong, and will happily take corrections if I am). Also depends on the lawyer cause there is a lawyer here on youtube who won't cover cases in his state for various reasons until AFTER they finished or he knows he won't be visiting the court room for it, he explains his reasons in a few of his videos I just can't remember them off the top of my head
Dude. I never thought I'd be taking Logan Paul's side on anything EVER.
OMGeez same!!!!!! ❤
When Prime hit Australia the people buying it were under 15, yet every bottle said not suitable for people under 15.
Now Prime seems to be on clearance most of the time 😂
Fellow Aussie here! The first time I saw Prime wasn’t in an a Coles or Woolies, it was an empty one outside my local shops that someone had made into a bong 😂 I laughed so hard and took a picture of it.
@@sassycatenthusiast now that is pure Australian. Please tell me that it had a cut garden hose too?!!
@@farrah7215 of course! Can’t be a true homemade bong without the (stolen) section of garden hose 😂
No one knows how to read
If the child who had cancer had had nothing but Prime hydration to drink day after day, a connection might be made, but to make a claim like that about a drink one is likely to consume only occasionaly is so insane.
Especially considering prime has only existed for a few years.
You should meet the kids in the uk. They do basically consume nothing but prime. It's so out of control in the uk there are shops, newsagents, that are selling certain bottles and flavours for huge amounts of money to children. They fanboying and hype is just ridiculous
That line, "correlation does not imply causation", is what this example of the child supposedly developing leukemia from prime shows. The lawyer needed to do a better job at what he was saying to cover his own azz. Again, he created a situation where folks defend JP! Allegedly!
"There is a child who has leukemia from drinking Prime."
I beg your unbelievable pardon?! That is so freaking out there that you could probably argue that its not defamation because no one would take it seriously.
You say that, but i remember a case in the 2000’s where a woman claimed axe body spray killed her son. Not from misuse or anything that the chemicals in it killed her son when he used it as intended. Everyone reacted like you, they lost the case in court and everyone was like “of course!🤪” but then several years later it got overturned because a lab finally was able to determine which chemicals were in it that AXE didn’t put on the label, and one of them did in fact kill the kid. I’m not saying this drink “gave a kid leukemia” cause lukemia is much more complex than just having it or not, but i am saying that you can’t KNOW it didn’t with ~common sense~
My partner and i tasted a few flavours, they werent pleasant. Im glad we got them on sale. On the upside, the bottles are made really well and make solid bongs.
So they are prime bong materials?😂😂😂
So they make prime bong materials? 😂😂 love it
@@scootaloo6158 baaaahahaaa! But yes. Can confirm, prime bong material.
@@scootaloo6158 eeeeheheheheee
Yeah they would be much more solid than Gatorade bottles, decent grip ect like the old orchie bottles.
I love Food Science Babe! She talks about how she use to buy into a lot of the fear mongering until she started to work in food development and labeling. I always appreciate her break downs.
being on Logan fucking Pauls side in drama was not on my 2024 bingo card
He definitely insinuated that the prime drink caused the kids cancer. What a pos. I hope he gets sued too smh.
Why is it so hard for some people to just admit when they were wrong 💀I mean I find when I do that and learn from my mistakes, I end up feeling more secure in my own character to grow and be a better person in the end
This unhealthy grip to their ego will inevitably result in worse outcomes
You and people like you speak the truth and are very mature for it, but unfortunately, many people, especially online, are too cowardly and self-absorbed to admit whenever they are wrong. It also doesn't help if these people are in an echo chamber with like minded people constantly telling them how amazing they are for not owning up to their mistakes. 😑
@@sadtitties222 a wise and perspicacious response from sadtitties 🙏🏽😌 lmao
It's not about being wrong anymore...
It's about clout.
@@TwiggyHetfield27 sad facts
a wise and perspicacious response from @sadtitties222 😌
The title should read “TicTok Lawyer gets buried by company’s MS&T (manufacturing science and technology) Department”
as a law student, i dont claim him
The lawyer is trying to use this for a shock value but the fact that PFAs could be present doesn’t surprise me at all because yeah our drinking water sucks over here. Where I live a PFAS manufacturing company has been releasing chemicals into the river since the 80s and they have similar sites across the country. A recent study found 99.9% of our town’s residents had PFAs in our blood and PFAs and other legacy chemicals were also found in our town’s treated drinking water tanks. One of the only ways to remove it is with reverse osmosis, which is expensive to implement on a large scale.
I love Food Science Babe. It’s hilarious watching her debunk these crazy food conspiracies people make up😂
Yes!!!! She's so fantastic and does such a great public service
am i even surprised by the title?
Maybe just disappointed.
😅
No
I think someone needs to check on his family. He recently got fired this year and has made some....off and seemingly emotionally distressed videos about it. They were a little off.
Omg this reminds me of when Sunny D came out and they discovered if you drank too much it started turning you orange.
How dare this man make Logan Paul sound like the rational one and make us defend him. The world is coming to an end!
It’s baffling that a lawyer would risk their career reputation for a meager amount of clout.
Most lawyers on tiktok make more money off tiktok than they do as lawyers. Like this guy isn’t a trial lawyer, he doesn’t get a case and work with a defendant and go to court, he sits in an office and reviews paperwork on a team of paperwork reviewers. They’re just worker drones with big degrees
@@HarringtonsApocyah ok. I hadn’t thought of that. I assume for some lawyers there may be burnout. He just seems so young.
Tommy should just acknowledge his wrongs and apologize, it’s pretty gracious of Logan to even offer that.
I will say, im impressed by how much logan paul seems to know about the business. Most celebs just slap their name on a thing and walk away, but he seems to be very involved in the process. Good for him!
The county I live in discovered super high levels pfas in our drinking water from the foam that was used to put out a fire at a nearby airport and now we have to have a drinking water dispenser. It's been a nightmare to deal with!
The South Park episode about Cred shows how much this is marketed for kids.
Never thought I would say this in my life time, but Logan Paul did good! Holy crap, he barbecued that guy with facts and receipts. Whoa.
You know, this situation reminds me of the Alec Baldwin video that surfaced recently. A person was repeatedly harassing him and he knocked the phone out of her hand. Is Alec Baldwin shit? Sure. But I actually defend him in that situation cause if someone was all up in MY face I would be pissed too.
Logan Paul is in the right here. Can’t believe I’m saying it.
Where I live in the USA you can sell coffee to anyone, but energy drinks & caffeine pills can only be sold to 18+. My state also raised the smoking & vaping age to 21, so I think they're more strict than other states.
I thought the age was raised nationwide?
@@haxan_3567 I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same thing they did back in the day with alcohol. No state 'has' to raise their age of restriction, but if they don't then they might have some funding for things such as interstates cut.
Nicotine products have a federal minimum age of 21, so that's every state.
There is no age requirement in PA for caffeine.
No age requirement in WV for caffeine either.
A lawyer lying? Woahh 😂
I live it when subpar lawyers try to talk science.🤣🤣
It's tricky, as someone else pointed out, research is part of their job. *But* he clearly has no idea what he's talking about and obviously needed an expert to decode his findings before sounding off on tiktok.
People like this lawyer really need to learn that it's okay to not give your take on every situation. IT IS OKAY TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. If you aren't an expert on a certain subject (in this case, PFAS), maybe don't throw around huge accusations that could land you in major hot water against a company. And he just kept going! Like dude, you're already buried. Stop digging deeper!
Looks like the lawyer is going to go bankrupt after he settles the court case he is about to be slapped with. Damn, it's crazy that people who are smart enough to become lawyers can act so dumb when it comes to false allegations.
This reminds me of this very unethical testing lab that will test products (sunscreens, hair spray, things like that) for companies and every time the product ends up testing for various cancer causing chemicals and then there’s always some media attention around it. I can’t remember how it was found out, but it ended up being some companies paying this unethical testing lab to skew results to give those competitors products a bad name to consumers.
That doesn't surprise me at all! It's so unbelievably common for even small businesses to make up bald face, pseudoscience lies in order to scare people into buying their products over others'. It's actually disgusting, but these end up going viral and becoming mainstream misconceptions, like all US food, and somehow never anywhere else, having ingredients that cause cancer 🙄
Never thought I'd hear "Logan Paul" and "Good Response in the same sentence but here we are.
This lawyer dude is also giving me major Garrick vibes (from sister wives)
what did we learn from this being a lawyer does not mean you know chemicals i would never hire that guys as a lawyer
I wonder if this guy, Jeanette / Janet and her lawyer are all friends from the same law school 😮.
You would think as a lawyer he would know better to talk about this if it’s an actual open lawsuit…..especially with the words and language he’s using to imply things.
Interesting that there’s an age restriction for caffeine in the UK.
I don't think it's an actual law but most stores won't serve you energy drinks under 16. I remember still getting ID'd for a red bull when I was 18 because I looked younger 😅
@@CallumMarkieand in the US I believe our ingredients/serving sizes are also wayyyyyy more sugary and caffeinated than across the pond. So no age restrictions, and way more health risks 🤦🏻♀️
@@CallumMarkieit’s the same in the US.
In Sweden it is restricted to 16+. Kids tend to have less body mass and it's easier to get a toxic dose of caffeine then. It's much easier to consume a whole lot of coffee from energy drinks, with brew that really isn't a thing.
@@CallumMarkieI got IDed in tesco for coffee concentrate… I’m 28
I need to study how Logan Paul is able to be pulling these insane reverse unos.
"The FDA were asked to investigate"
I'm guessing this is true, sort of.
If I was going to try filing this kind of lawsuit, I'd find some way to contact the FDA and ask them to investigate.
Can't imagine they would from one random complaint, but it might create some form of paper trail I could point to. And, who knows, they might and find something that would improve my case.
I call BS - trying to insinuate prime causes cancer is ridiculous. @Foodsciencebabe knows her stuff and provides the nuance needed.
It's true anything that is made out of plastic has this forever chemical
@@gotmilkbutt because nobody wants to go glass and plus glass is reusable easy to sanitize and repackaged
I’m sorry, but the one thing I don’t agree with you on is the fact that he’s not selling this to kids, because he is. It’s not illegal to buy a caffeine drink in the store when you’re under the age of 18. The stores have nothing to do with it, but the marketing certainly does and it’s aimed towards children.
It’s illegal for stores to sell high caffeine content to children in the uk. So yes it is
the hydration ones don't have caffeine
Most kids are drinking the Prime Hydration not the Prime Energy. I’m not saying there aren’t some kids drinking PE but I definitely don’t think it’s the amount people think. As the mom of a 12 year old, football player, wrestler, basketball player, and track/runner all of the kids we’re around are drinking Prime Hydration, not to mention it’s the parents responsibility to not purchase or allow their children to purchase the caffeinated version not Logan’s job.
@@parrotstories In the US it isn't which is likely where the lawsuit was happening.
@@AliciaLynn2kids are drinking both. They have been banned in many schools
Prime is kinda morally poisonous...
Anything Logan Paul produces is morally poisonous.
Living in the US and finding out there's an age restriction on caffeine
Not a Paul fan, but damn his response is good.
My husband works at a water treatment plant that makes pretty good water. They treat lake water and turn it into drinking water. There are pretty specific guidelines and regulations on the water and the quantity of chemicals used in the process. I believe it was last year when there were some regulations on PFAS talked about. The levels that were being talked and that they were expected to get too were crazy. They PPT numbers were literally impossible to regulate because the technology to measure it didn’t exist. Now I myself don’t work there and I haven’t asked my husband in a while so maybe this has changed. I do know that usually water treatment plants supply water that has passed all government regulations to factories and then they use that to make their products. Some might be supplying raw water, for example the paper mill in our town gets raw water, but they aren’t making consumable products. I would be really shocked to learn that the prime factory isn’t starting with finished treated water (again that is safe for consumption straight from the water treatment plant) and then filtering is agin and then using that to make their products.
I absolutely love Food Science Babe.
I love how lawyers speak on areas outside of their expertise! He didn't consult an expert prior to going on TT to spew his misinformation....
if a company is advertising targetign toward children (going off whatever countries definition is) then you can very much go after the company for kids buying those products....that's why they went for prime..not just the shops that were selling against local country caffine laws. (doesn't mean it was successful but that's just why)
Let's try something new/ old. If you have kids you watch them, I already raised mine. Tag, you're it! I'm not willing to give up my freedom because parents don't supervise their own children. Get a grip. Generation X here, half of you idiots can't count money, won't touch money, blame your damn parents! We don't care.
I personally find Prime revolting. It tastes like a cheap melted popsicle. The kind in the plastic tubes. Makes my throat hurt. 😅🤢🤮
Edit .. You have age limits on caffeine in the UK?!
Yuck I hated those even as a kid I knew those popsicles were suspect as fuck
@@emmy_cat_taylorLOL!! Right?! Frozen chemical treats! LOL so gross.
was waiting for this video omg. literally refreshing my feed cuz i was wondering if markie was posting soon
If we took an actual deep dive into food and how it’s made in the US, literally everything would be canceled. All this crap gives us cancer.
Even stressing about it does ( apparently) .
That is a very common misconception due to pseudoscience fear-mongering. Food* Science Babe is a seriously great person to follow to start seeing more scientific info about these urban legends about food
When Logan Paul knows what he's talking about and you find yourself siding with him, what a world.
He said "A young boy who has leukaemia after drinking Prime Hydration." That's pretty obviously a claim that Prime gives you cancer right? There's no OTHER way that sentence could be taken surely.
If tiktok is a part of their job description, i immediately don't believe them. I don't believe any "professional" on tiktok
That arrogant response alone would make me sue him. What a disgusting attitude.
He should be fired for his inability to defend his untrue claims.
Lawyers are famous for not being able to do math. It's a common joke in law school that everyone went there because they couldn't do math.
The only thing you need to know about prime is:
The cans are the "energy" and have high caffiene and suggested for over 16's
The plastic bottles are "hydration" and are caffiene free so can be sold for kids to drink
Neither contain poison - although it is always the dose that makes the poison as you can overdose on good old fashioned water!!
Huh I didn't actually know that I've never had prime and given that I've never had good things about the flavour don't plan to do I was actually unaware of that
Hence the South Park: Not Suitable for Children special on Paramount+
I see prime drinks in a ton of stores, but i never see anyone ever drinking it and havn't met anyone who has actually ever drank it.
I have seen several kids drinking the hydration version at the schools I teach in.
As someone that attends conventions of all kinds, music festivals and other shows I see it alot with kids ranging from like 14-19 years old.
I drink the energy drink all the time, since we sell it at my work. The Strawberry Watermelon energy drink is pretty good.
I get so annoyed when people of a certain caliber (licensed in other fields) just assume they know and understand an entirely different field based on their distorted perception of their knowledge because “I’m smart.” 😒
As EDB says: “lawsuits are just allegations and shade”
The lawyer asking to "talk about it" seems to just be looking to create some event to leech off of Paul's fame. He's practically salivating at how many views he'll get if Paul joins him on a live.
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that prime is actually a SHIT drink filled with artificial flavors/colors/sugars!!!!
I mean true or not I’d believe that Logan’s drink would kill you. Not gonna die on that hill. That just seems like too much energy to care lol
He should not have said someone contact his office. If that's true, he's theoretically compromised himself
All the flavors are dogwater..and now we know it's bad for you.
But that is not true and that is exactly what the video is about, someone lying and saying it's unhealthy when it's not.
@@nonamepainter lol, even without the forever chemicals this stuff is clearly unhealthy..sugar substitutes and food coloring, not good for you.
Ngl I was given a strawberry banana prime drink that wasn't caffeinated. I was actually upset at how much I enjoyed the flavor. It was like a Powerade but tastier. Don't wanna give that man my money so I won't buy it but I'd be lying if I said it tasted awful.
@@nutella1757 As they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
@@tjrune3432 I feel as though that is the perfect way to describe my experience with prime.
Lawyers like this are exactly why lawyer jokes exist.
seems like this guy shouldn't be a lawyer
Logan looks absolutely chuffed to finally be able to make a reasonable defense for something involving him in his video.
willing to bet this guy got sent a cease and desist letter, it's all fun and games until legal action is on the table.
I think dude got his law degree in “Law for Dummies” classes.
Thank god we don't eat bottles I guess
Chemist here. The lawyer is f-ed. The detection limit are to high, the "lawsuit" and the analysis "made by a lawyer" (which sound terrible for credibility IMO) are not values that can be considered real, so there a high chance there is no analysis or the lawyer grabed the value of background noise in an analysis as being presence of PFOS.
And he is F-ed because with the videos, a lawyer can prove without a shadow of a doubt that Tommy lied intentionally, which fulfills the almost impossible standard of a defamation suit.
He is f-ed is Paul tries to sue him, would be an immediate win for Paul.
I'm starting to think that good lawyers don't necessarily have the time for social media, with a few exemptions
I still find it funny that in the UK so many supermarkets and corner shops stock bought so much Prime thinking it would make them a huge profit from flying off the shelves
Nope
Hardly anyone buys it here as Monster is more popular
So shops had to discount the Prime drinks
Places that were selling them for £4 a can now sells them for just under or over £1
Never thought we'd see the day that LOGAN PAUL is actually the victim in a situation, wtf is going on in 2024?!?
This guy is out here going on about a lawsuit his firm is involved in, if I’m understanding this correctly? This is, at the very least, grounds for his firm to fire him, and at most this is ripe for an ethics case against him. He should have focused on discovery and speaking to experts instead of blasting his client’s business on TikTok.
I don’t think a “healthy energy drink” will ever exist
Loving all the updates hope your feeling better markie ❤
14:31 this man really put a suit and tie on to make a response video 😂
tiktok's motto should be "don't let other people ruin your life, ruin it yourself"
The UK has an age minimum for caffeine? That's wild. There's no such restriction in the US, that I know of.
i work in water treatment industry and the very first time i heard tommy speak i couldn’t stop laughing
Thanks for the video Markie 😊
Caffeine purchases aren’t regulated in the states, there’s no laws for age requirements at all. I’ve never heard of them doing that anywhere outside of the states either
Defending Logan Paul makes me feel dirty.
Logan paul has done so many bad and sketchy things i didnt think it was possible to slander him. I was proven wrong.