The FGC needs a reality check (Froste vs. Nadeshot)

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  • čas přidán 4. 09. 2022
  • Esports drama doesn't splash over to the FGC very often... but maybe it should. The most recent example has Brian reflecting on FGC content creators - can they learn from others' mistakes?
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Komentáře • 535

  • @kobep206
    @kobep206 Před rokem +402

    "People got paid to go to EVO to lose their matches off stream" shouldve been the title of the video

    • @AP-qu2li
      @AP-qu2li Před rokem +41

      Shit, I could do that. Put me on the team

    • @perhaps9460
      @perhaps9460 Před rokem +15

      @@AP-qu2li “tell em to bring me my money”

    • @B_bang22
      @B_bang22 Před rokem +4

      @@AP-qu2li hell durring evo i was top 1k on Multiverus and mmr 99 on Harley. I could of gotten a win or 2 lol

    • @PersonaNonGrata666
      @PersonaNonGrata666 Před rokem +1

      Like a bad stripper, they got paid for the attempt.

  • @SUSJUG
    @SUSJUG Před rokem +234

    Brian talking about Froste makes me feel like the simulation is cracking

    • @PomadaGaming
      @PomadaGaming Před rokem +36

      This is the first time I hear the name Froste ngl

    • @charliericker274
      @charliericker274 Před rokem +5

      @@PomadaGaming I mean I think that's the case for most of us. I have vaguely heard of the hundred thieves organization mostly because of other CZcams videos making fun of them but I've never heard of that Frost guy before.

    • @PomadaGaming
      @PomadaGaming Před rokem

      @@charliericker274 same,same

  • @Akaraien
    @Akaraien Před rokem +348

    I fully agree with you I think the entire FGC is massively held back by the lack of content creation, if you compare it with other Esports with how HYPERCOMPETITIVE they are with content for example League of Legends its almost laughable with how much sponsored players get away with. I really hope we can make a change in the next year or two :)

    • @MacMens0100
      @MacMens0100 Před rokem +22

      yeah its weird having to dig for information for fighting games because the info will be out there but buried in like a discord
      while with league there was always at least 4 good videos on anything the day after an update

    • @Darchon101
      @Darchon101 Před rokem +2

      Just to put it out front, I don't watch your stuff very often Akaraien but I wanted to ask since I've seen some of your stuff.
      What type of content do you think would fit the FGC scene? I don't follow SF5 (and likely not SF6) but I enjoy Brian's talks. I don't watch most of his other stuff but the content like this video attracts me as a viewer.
      I won't name names but there are FGC content creators I do watch but it's generally just memey and dumb humor.
      There's of course the option for guide type videos but it can get very overwhelming if that's your entire thing.
      This got a bit longer than I had planned and way unorganized but what is your take on what kind of content that would fit the FGC scene?

    • @omgdisfunny4852
      @omgdisfunny4852 Před rokem +4

      thats because fighting games only get new content once every few months. there is no content to be made. look at hookgang god, all he has is the same matchups over and over. button check has amazing content thats just drama, outside the game. brian just makes content on content, its not a quickly evolving game like others league etc. Panda's content is exaclty what other games do. and guess what, the content sucks. it doesn't work for fighting games. no one cares to watch Kizzy fake overeact and scream all the time because loud = funny.

    • @otterdonnelly9959
      @otterdonnelly9959 Před rokem

      You can’t force everyone to do to that to though. Some people are just competitors. Others want to just play. It’s a tough genre and I guess some need to be entertained by people to take interest these days? I know people want it to grow (and honestly to make more $) but that isn’t a goal for everyone.

    • @omgdisfunny4852
      @omgdisfunny4852 Před rokem

      @@otterdonnelly9959 just like Justin and mewtwo King on pandas vids, they're extremely technically minded and putting them on videos that are meant to be funny/entertaining just doesn't fit their personality and they never seem that fully interested

  • @ItsYaBear
    @ItsYaBear Před rokem +124

    I still think its insane Brian has a god damn job that ISNT streaming/content creation and he still does it better than everyone in the fgc.

    • @moodyx5626
      @moodyx5626 Před rokem +9

      I have a friend who works in software development and his workload is pretty forgiving right now, I'd assume it's the same for Brian. I hope so at least, don't want FGCs favorite boomer burning out.

  • @withoutorder
    @withoutorder Před rokem +66

    I wouldn't know half the shit I do about SFV if it wasn't for entertaining content creators like you, Punk, etc. It can be intimidating or tedious/boring watching direct guides on fighting games. When watching you, it's both entertaining and at the same time you are providing information on how certain techniques work in real time, which helps reinforce what I've learned but have not yet applied.

  • @forechunkukee
    @forechunkukee Před rokem +23

    As a 32-yr old who loves being part of the FGC, i love the "old man" energy at the end of this video.
    On a serious note, thanks for doing what you do, learned alot from your content!

  • @dooberknob3947
    @dooberknob3947 Před rokem +78

    Another thing people really need to understand is that a sponsorship is not a reward for being a good player, it's a partnership with a business selling products. I see players complaining a lot that FGC sponsorship deals are trash, but they don't really understand the orgs have very little to gain by putting brand logos on a stream with 50 viewers, regardless of how godlike the player is. Players need to ask themselves how many additional units a company will be able to push be being associated with them. If the answer is not very much, that's why you're not getting paid.

    • @eVuLeX
      @eVuLeX Před rokem

      how much contracts did you have?
      Im just kidding, it is not always about the money bro

    • @ZawaOnYoutube
      @ZawaOnYoutube Před rokem +4

      It IS when you're sponsored...

    • @firecross625
      @firecross625 Před rokem +1

      @@eVuLeX It is for the sponsors. Sponsors are by and large just collections of brand sponsorships given a name, and those brands largely don't care about the content they're supporting. What they *do* care about is how large of an audience that content has, and how large of an audience the individual creator can reach. Sponsored players are walking advertisements, and companies aren't going to spend money on advertisement if it won't have a notable ROI

  • @ThePhilocypher
    @ThePhilocypher Před rokem +23

    Someone hire Brian_F to be an org director. Big Brain Brian out here dropping knowledge.

  • @Choochificational
    @Choochificational Před rokem +119

    brian turning into a boomer rage goblin is what we needed in these trying times

    • @Xenozillex
      @Xenozillex Před rokem +10

      brian is below 5'7 in height?

    • @Brian_F
      @Brian_F  Před rokem +53

      @@Xenozillex yeah

    • @ImortalZeus13
      @ImortalZeus13 Před rokem +2

      @@Brian_F
      Small Royalty unite brother

    • @Theorama11
      @Theorama11 Před rokem

      @@Brian_F still sexy af Brian dw hmu when you aren't numb anymore lol

  • @jovan7365
    @jovan7365 Před rokem +24

    That twitter trending tab is crazy huh

  • @Thedrewshow559
    @Thedrewshow559 Před rokem +13

    I’m 38 years old and I watching Brian go Full-Dad talking about the gift of time is something that speaks to me. I, as well, want to retire one day. That’s when I’ll stream lol

  • @Gronalak
    @Gronalak Před rokem +11

    Damn, the last part hits HARD, as a felow 30yo office worker

  • @chad8813
    @chad8813 Před rokem +67

    Got into fighting games a couple years back because of you and smug. Big respect for staying on your grind because your channel is one of my favourites

  • @CallMeKap_
    @CallMeKap_ Před rokem +61

    You’re one of the best, most level headed content creators out there for sure… right along with Devin Nash. Found him through you when referenced in a previous video. Mad props to you (and your team) and thank you very much 👌🏼👍🏼

    • @opssoldier3316
      @opssoldier3316 Před rokem +1

      Devin Nash is amazing. Wished I could be as consistent as him

  • @rikou4214
    @rikou4214 Před rokem +19

    Hey Brine, just wanna say, I legit picked up SFV because of you. You're really a likeable creator in the space, and you're right the more the players get into creation, the bigger the FGC will get. It would really help, since FGC really is soooo much smaller compared to other competitive genre.

  • @gustavoalmeida1579
    @gustavoalmeida1579 Před rokem +8

    You're right on that, one thing that I think is missing on the FGC is challenges between players like a good first to 10. Yesterday both Problem X and Infexious were streaming at the same time, these guys could be playing each other.

  • @BHS289
    @BHS289 Před rokem +3

    As much as I’ve enjoyed the edited content lately and make a point to watch it to help the channel, these recent rant/blunt discussion vids have been some of my favorite - not that I’d want them all the time, but they’re refreshing.

  • @webe9008
    @webe9008 Před rokem +20

    I agree, I would die for more online tourney runs with like music behind, with match/chat highlights, it’s literally the best for both appealing, learning, and SOOO much more. Of course I’m not expecting everyone to FGC analysis like you or Leon Massey, but still, I feel like there’s not enough. I’m so glad u said something about this

    • @Envy11235
      @Envy11235 Před rokem +1

      Brian's online warrior series is straight godlike and I wish more mid/top level players would.

    • @ktrieun
      @ktrieun Před rokem +1

      Kind of an insult to Brian_F to be lumped in with Leon Massey…

    • @webe9008
      @webe9008 Před rokem

      @@ktrieun dude, I’m talking in terms of content, not popularity. I’m just saying they both make REALLY good though out content

  • @BurnedRetinas
    @BurnedRetinas Před rokem +10

    It's one of the reasons I love the interview and talking portions of Street Fighter League. It does a great job of fleshing out personalities and getting to know players like Oil King on a human level.

  • @TheMexicanVaquero
    @TheMexicanVaquero Před rokem +44

    very true. Never seen BrianF on twitch, but i watch his youtube videos on a weekly basis at this point. I think the problem I can see happening is that people have been saying this esports bubble was gonna burst on the FGC people for years now and it hasnt. Frankly I'm beginning to worry that esports organizations aren't helping or even making players produce stuff because they just don't know thats what they should do. So instead of cutting players, these organizations are just gonna fall under instead. So these players aren't gonna be cut, the organization that helps them will just go bankrupt and the players will never even know that it was partly their fault it happened cause they were never put on blast for their lack of providing meaningful revenue back to the organization

    • @internethero83
      @internethero83 Před rokem +1

      the problem is that creating content is not really the role of the esports organizations, they just enable you to do so on a bigger platform. its up to the players to do that and i think a lot of them are just focused on getting better and winning tournaments. when the orgs hire people on 'streamer' roles it's because the streamers have already found a way to make content/get attention and that is the org's incentive to sponsor in the first place.

    • @abelmelo6409
      @abelmelo6409 Před rokem

      You don't need an organization to make things happen, you are your own brand. If you do a nice job with nothing, you could acomplish so much more when you start to earn a few bucks. The thing is, organizations don't want to develop, they want to profit. You need to know how to develop, so they can give you money now and both of you profit over time. That's how things works in ANY Sport, digital or not.

  • @bbrill9886
    @bbrill9886 Před rokem +7

    Brian coming from another Brian. Your hat of magic tricks and 'value' to the FGC is amazing. Love seeing your growth. Do it for all us good ones out there all the Brians. !woo Woo!!

  • @carlosvergara4132
    @carlosvergara4132 Před rokem +2

    Congratz to the editor on that 20:20 transition to serious time.

  • @ThePhilocypher
    @ThePhilocypher Před rokem +59

    THANK YOU!!! I 100% agree. Being sponsored and not making content is a wasted opportunity. You can't bank on placing in tournaments all the time.

  • @anthonychristensen1494
    @anthonychristensen1494 Před rokem +13

    You do a great job Brian, keep it up

  • @fonzworthbentley7455
    @fonzworthbentley7455 Před rokem +4

    CZcams is huge, a lot of people exclusively watch CZcams. Brian's got 90k subs, Punk/Smug/Daigo have 100k, Tekken Knee 230k, Arslan Ash like 90k. But some really talented and funny top players only have like 2k subs, it's crazy

  • @I9ndigo
    @I9ndigo Před rokem +2

    I'm nowhere near a top player in any of my fighting games but this did motivate me to do SOMETHING with my CZcams. That last segment was very strong.
    Just a reminder for all of us to do the most with the time we have.

  • @TheCaptainPaxo
    @TheCaptainPaxo Před rokem +6

    Something I'll always remember relating to content creations is that, people with either watch you because you are either: funny, good at the game or educational. If you can be all three at the same time, then you're winning

  • @TheWordPlay
    @TheWordPlay Před rokem +3

    I agree so much about the need to put out CZcams content. My schedule doesn't allow me to catch Brian's streams live, but I'm always here for the videos.
    I'm surprised that more organizations don't provide sponsored players with an editor (I believe Panda does, but I'm not certain)

  • @Ceelows
    @Ceelows Před rokem

    This is some epic insight I love this. Not only entertainment, but I've learned a whole lot about CZcams and content in general from you

  • @VaSoapman
    @VaSoapman Před rokem +8

    Starting a business in LA, or anywhere expensive, is not a good idea.
    Also having a Esports team make non-game related content is also not a good idea.
    That 100T team seems like it was setup to fail.

  • @outthefryinpan
    @outthefryinpan Před rokem +1

    thanks for the wake up call at the end of the video. i needed that lol

  • @joelarcher2691
    @joelarcher2691 Před rokem +1

    Good stuff Brian, insightful and interesting content as always. I'm lovin' it ;)

  • @MacMens0100
    @MacMens0100 Před rokem +16

    I wish more players in the anime fighter scene would make more youtube videos.
    only posting your super special tech to twitter with the barest explanation isn't doing you or your fans/followers favors

  • @entius6843
    @entius6843 Před rokem

    This is such a fantastic video. The FGC is so adverse to the greater ESports scene, but there's so much overlap that you can learn from and use to improve in selling yourself and knowing your worth.

  • @sant6182
    @sant6182 Před rokem +1

    Mirin' the Oro shirt. Anyone knows where is it from?

  • @eanhunt3184
    @eanhunt3184 Před rokem

    the last two minutes resonated with me a lot, it’s kinda a nice thing to think about with regards to personal performance in stuff. I don’t have all day to play and get better like some players do, I have to accept I won’t always be able to be on the level I should be. It’d be great to be able to grind more and do what I want and achieve what I want, but it’s nice to know that I can get where ive gotten without having all the time in the world. thanks for the great vid it was super interesting

  • @kodoy
    @kodoy Před rokem +36

    I agree with everything you say, but the unchangeable fact is that I imagine a lot of pro players have very little interest in being a streamer or youtuber. They came into the game, practiced and got good in order to compete, not in order to make content. And while i understand the whole argument about brand visibility and how it's generally not beneficial for teams to sponsor you if you're not getting that algorithm bread, you can't really force people to be excited about doing something they don't want or like to. Cause when they do force the issue unwillingly, the content usually ends up being mid and they burn out fast anyway. In an ideal world competitors should worry first about winning and second about content, but alas, capitalism
    this has nothing to do with whatever controversy is mentioned btw. just a thought after seeing so many players trying to force the issue and make shitty content that never takes off cause they don't have the personality or talent for that role. it's tougher than just working hard, you practically need to be invested emotionally in both of these enterprises equally (competition + content) in order to make it as a pro gamer and it's kind of sad

    • @acunniffe
      @acunniffe Před rokem +8

      If you're good enough at the game, then that's just "content" right there with nothing else required. Just stream your training sets and competitions, and pay an editor to clip the 30s segments for Tik Tok and CZcams. It requires 0 skill, just a tiny bit of effort.
      There are so many pros who are literally just leaving easy money on the table, then those same people will be crying on twitter about how small fgc event payouts are.

    • @doublevendetta
      @doublevendetta Před rokem +6

      @@acunniffe This ^ like, I'm totally with you on the fuck capitalism train but this is where we live and to be in a position where you're so good at something that you don't even have to get good at the production side you just take your skills and pay somebody who already IS to make that look pretty, and you make easy money, but just... Not? That idea is wild to me and I would jump so hard to have that level of freedom

    • @ItsMrKO
      @ItsMrKO Před rokem +2

      @@doublevendetta exactly. The FGC doesn't provide the tournament prize money that MOBAs do, but these players are literally missing out on bags because they don't make videos or stream, then complain. You being good is your content, just capture it and get someone to do the editing and post. Things are possible these days, just gotta go get it.

    • @vaderwalks
      @vaderwalks Před rokem +2

      @yan Plenty of pro athletes have a similar mentality; 'I just want to play the game.' From a competitive standpoint, that's admirable, sure. The funny thing is, most teams make more money when they're winning, so simply being good at the game is valuable...and yet orgs STILL require them to 'make content' in the form of interviews, promos, etc. Their job isn't JUST to play sports, it's to sell a brand. On top of that, even the highest-earning athletes pursue extra revenue with sponsors and ad deals. The organization and/or business model are different between sports and e-sports, sure, but the point is even well-payed athletes 'make content' because, duh, why wouldn't you?

    • @kodoy
      @kodoy Před rokem +2

      ​@@vaderwalks the key difference from the examples you cited is that the creative and managerial work is not being done by the athlete, but by their sponsor/team. Sure, they still have to show up, but It's a whole other world when the players themselves have to run a stream or come up with interesting content to put out that isn't just uploading training vods, interacting with chat once every 30 minutes.
      Don't get me wrong i think Brian F's advice is solid and that is the way to go nowadays. hire an editor, stream consistently etc but really if you stop to look - the stuff that takes off in the online space is curated content by interesting personalities that actually put a lot of work into their stuff. Most people who put in the "minimum" effort described end up like phenom's yt.

  • @crazycatguy4466
    @crazycatguy4466 Před rokem +4

    Love the insight on the community. Its all valuable information. Also 30s is the new 20s dude!

  • @trukimai9293
    @trukimai9293 Před rokem +2

    Thank you Brian F. I need more FGC content and I've been feeling like a lot of other players aren't doing enough to make content. "If Brian"Full-time"F can't do it, why can't you?"

  • @Darknesses10
    @Darknesses10 Před rokem +1

    I found you on CZcams my guy appreciate the grind.

  • @CptnFabulous
    @CptnFabulous Před rokem +1

    great video and great rant brine, shoutouts to the editor for the hard work, shoutouts to CLG and shoutouts to my boy hotshot

  • @Human-hv1qb
    @Human-hv1qb Před rokem +4

    Dude that ending got me lol, I just don't feel like I can add anything to the fgc as a content creator. Like I'm not good, I'm not that funny, and I have no ideas. Maybe I'm in my own head about it but yea. Maybe I'll boot up and stream ranked one day.

    • @jeremyroberts8822
      @jeremyroberts8822 Před rokem

      I think you are in your own head about it man I really do. You may not find yourself funny, you may think you aren’t really entertaining but that doesn’t mean just cus you think that about yourself that’s also what everyone else would think about you too. I’d say give it a shot because the worst that could happen is that you just end up in the same position you are already in now anyways so why not put yourself out there and try to do this so that way even if you fail you’ll atleast know that you tried. The more you do it the better you’ll get at talking to the camera, at making good content, at editing etc.
      Some of the biggest streamers and content creators ever sucked when they first started man but they got better over time and are now some of the biggest names ever. Everyone starts somewhere brother

  • @TheeMFGr0uch
    @TheeMFGr0uch Před rokem +1

    88k subs - 44k views
    Unreal 50% watch rate and you deserve it man. Glad I found the channel, keep up the great work.

  • @nogoodchad4473
    @nogoodchad4473 Před rokem +4

    Businessman Brian out here with the real strats. "You know the frame data, but do you know your income Excel sheet?"

  • @kenshisanki
    @kenshisanki Před rokem

    Love a good Brian upload, the end bit you were SPITTIN

  • @axineton33
    @axineton33 Před rokem +3

    "I'd be shitting on you ho's." This just keeps getting better lmao

  • @rufio2001
    @rufio2001 Před rokem +1

    I'm not necessarily new to the FGC, but i'll admit that Brian F's youtube channel helped push me into SFV. It is now probably my favorite game, so cheers!

  • @TheBanimal
    @TheBanimal Před rokem +1

    Fantastic video. It always felt like the FGC really is in the past with its content creation and mentality towards content creation. I understand that players want to focus on winning tornuments for the prestige but as you said the JP scene is showing that you can create content and win EVO.
    I feel like you need to do a panel at the next major on the subject.

  • @woyi_fgchronicles
    @woyi_fgchronicles Před rokem

    This was a very enlightening video. Some of my friends are trying to grow the gaming community in my country. I will send them this and discuss stuff with them.

  • @jonhaines4646
    @jonhaines4646 Před rokem +1

    We got to peek behind to curtain at the end of this one for real. The true Brian came out there at the end and the editor didn't even know what to do with it. I loved it.

  • @RoTeNdO
    @RoTeNdO Před rokem +3

    Brian, I've been telling people this for years! I'm glad to hear someone with a bigger voice and platform say something because as a collective, it's going to help everyone grow. You have to build your brand. You have to produce content. Sponsors don't care much about how well you perform. They care about how much eyes you bring to the brand. They care about volume. I hear people complain about getting sponsored, but not doing anything to earn one or they have one, but based on their contract aren't earning enough. Yet don't do anything to change that or produce anything. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE AN MONEY OFF WINNINGS! These orgs are taking risks signing fgc players because there's little to no ROI. You don't think that after a while, say 6 months, you won't get dropped because you're consistently getting top 8? Think again. Especially if they're paying for registration, travel and lodging. IF, and that's a strong IF, they're an org that takes a percentage of your winnings, no matter if you win an event, they're still lose money. I won't get into the math, but financially all that red isn't a good thing. It's a business, not a charity and you need to produce to stay viable for them.

  • @downtownhbrown4965
    @downtownhbrown4965 Před rokem

    Hey really great video, I hope the right people get the chance to hear/see it.

  • @markielthecrow5960
    @markielthecrow5960 Před rokem

    Thank you Brian. I needed something like this. It helps a lot.

  • @penguindude24
    @penguindude24 Před rokem +2

    The epilogue was perfect. "You damned kids!"

  • @Bustah
    @Bustah Před rokem +1

    This is one of my favorite videos

  • @NaneTheArtist
    @NaneTheArtist Před rokem +4

    Honestly, a lot of these top players could just watch their old matches and commentate on what happened in the match and I'd watch that for hours. Maybe even just tournament experiences like Valle. Give us a behind the scenes look into their careers.

  • @MikeScarbro
    @MikeScarbro Před rokem +25

    Being a pro player must be such a weird job. It's one of the few careers where you're expected to do basically two or three full-time jobs as a player, content creator, and marketing shill for the team or brand that sponsors you. It must suck if you're someone who is amazing at the game, but shitty in front of a camera with no interest in being a personality. You basically get punished for being bad at something you never wanted to do in the first place.
    I tried to imagine what it would be like if the company that pays my paycheck decided I had to keep writing code, but also start streaming full-time and making CZcams videos in order to keep drawing my salary. It would be insane.

    • @catchmyscoober
      @catchmyscoober Před rokem +3

      The orgs should be providing all the infrastructure to make all that as easy as possible. There's really no excuse

    • @Brian_F
      @Brian_F  Před rokem +19

      I agree. But there's ways to streamline this and limit the strain on the player. Streaming your practice so an editor can turn it into content and run your CZcams channel takes very little extra effort from the player. We gotta work with what we have right now. Hopefully one day players can focus solely on playing, but we aren't there now at all.

    • @ColdMetalz
      @ColdMetalz Před rokem +5

      Yeah I see what you mean. In a perfect world they could just play and get paid. But not the world we live in at the moment and you just have to understand what you're signing up for. You want to make a living playing video games, this may have to come with it. It's just life really, starving artist have to do something on the side, just as an IT guy I've put in don't know how many hours into extra course work/certificates, lame jobs in between jobs, etc. But yeah I feel ya, miss me with the life on camera stuff

    • @MikeScarbro
      @MikeScarbro Před rokem +2

      @@Brian_F I definitely agree with your message in the video. I'm just struggling with whether this is conceptually a healthy idea as a career in the first place. Like, should it be the case that everyone who wants to make being a professional gamer into a career also be required to become a content creator?

    • @vaudou_
      @vaudou_ Před rokem +1

      The thing is Esports is largely a money pit. Almost none of these orgs are making any money because regardless of what people think, players aren't providing them with any value if they can't market them.

  • @johnray527
    @johnray527 Před rokem

    On a serious note though the "you have the gift of time, do something with it" part hit hard AF. Great video.

  • @Iyokuu
    @Iyokuu Před rokem +3

    I've been talking about this for an entire YEAR and it always felt like my small group of friends and I were alone in this conversation. Too many players (not pro players & not content creators) see it as being salty/jealous about numbers, but that has never been the case. It's always been the fact that content creation is in the absolute dumpster for the FGC! Everyone wants to be a streamer, then call themselves a content creator, but those terms are not synonymous. Just as you said Brian, they SHOULD be in the position to hire an editor, SEO analyst, or something to help them package things out for CZcams. Opinions, hot takes, rival matches, tier lists, whatever.
    Now on the contrary, I will say that this is not entirely the players/creators fault anymore. I did a huge deep dive a couple weeks ago for a stream because this exact conversation topic got brought up by some other players and the fault lies in the community. Most of the time. There are a number of creators out there putting out "worth it" content that could help further the FGC into a good eye, but they do not get the recognition/support from the community because they don't have a popular name attached to it. FGC viewers live in the era of now.
    No tourney results? Pass.
    Top player didn't gas you up thereby creating association w/ x top player? Pass.
    Not a pro player we know about it? Pass.
    It's truly a problem because issues like this don't exist in most, if any at all, eSports-centric games. Apex, Valorant, LoL, Overwatch in its prime years, even SMASH BROS has a more supportive community than we do. lol I think it's because we don't have absolute results is why orgs don't have the definite idea of pushing content in their agendas. It's a huge risk to hire an editor, analyst, thumbnail designer, whoever and then the videos don't make enough to pay off one of those hired. If we did better as a community, I honestly believe we'd see a better path for FGC(ontent).

  • @BeeLy1011
    @BeeLy1011 Před rokem +1

    Off topic but I appreciate the DOA5 background in the thumbnail

  • @NoelDuken
    @NoelDuken Před rokem

    You made some great points about putting in the work to get results. I'd say resources are being reserved for SF6 and the rest is to keep the name in the game till then

  • @RealHourglass
    @RealHourglass Před rokem +1

    I think this describes me perfectly, I don’t have the availability to watch twitch but I have watched and been introduced to so many games and personalities from youtube. Not to mention I hear these personalities when watching there vods read donations saying “I came from youtube” all the time!

  • @iggy7534
    @iggy7534 Před rokem +1

    God bless the editors music choice

  • @LinNick
    @LinNick Před rokem +1

    Could you do a video on how to best format videos for fgc CZcams? Like some stats on what kind of titles, thumbnails, tags, upload times, etc. Do the best?

  • @VoermanIdiot
    @VoermanIdiot Před rokem +6

    Hopefully with all the focus on improving the general quality of life of fighting games that developers are doing now, adding rollback to games that didn't have it and games having support for a LONG time, there will also be more of a focus for the people to actually create content that isn't thrown together haphazardly. I do think Brian (And BGA) are very much a standard to strive for when it comes to content creation in the FGC space that is more focused on one specific game rather than someone like Max that focuses more on fighting games as a whole.
    also 9:41 hey thats me.

    • @ToseRoyal
      @ToseRoyal Před rokem

      Who is AA?

    • @VoermanIdiot
      @VoermanIdiot Před rokem +1

      @@ToseRoyal Oops, I meant BGA. Brain Genius Academy, his editor.

  • @anbuhyuga8299
    @anbuhyuga8299 Před rokem

    Even though I don't really play fighting games, I'm a huge fan and watch all your videos. Sometimes I start up SF5 and play some trials and bot games for fun after watching your videos, but that's all, still this video got even me inspired to do something lmao. Awesome video.

  • @Eliott-K
    @Eliott-K Před rokem +1

    Golden Guardians Melee is also doing a good job of staying content-focused for their players as well, it’s a cool way to show a wide variety of sides to the community from history, commentary, players, and wider community members

    • @ADavidJohnson
      @ADavidJohnson Před rokem +1

      That’s a really good example, especially because they have fun in-game challenges + trivia + interviews, and it’s building the community.
      E-sports, like all sports, needs history, narratives, and technical analysis to get people’s attention and keep their interest.
      ESPN is maybe 10 percent competition, 20 percent highlights, and 70 percent “what does this mean?” arguments/commentary

  • @matchbox0997
    @matchbox0997 Před rokem

    I felt this one.Good stuff.I like being educated on how things work.

  • @proteincannon
    @proteincannon Před rokem +2

    Big true. I've been a FGC fan most of my life but it's incredibly difficult to find any good content about fighting games. I like watching tournaments for sure, but like maximillion and Aris are the few people that I've seen who do stuff outside of fighting games to try and grow their brand. Funny thing is neither of them are sponsored by FGC related stuff.

  • @whiteichigo880
    @whiteichigo880 Před rokem +5

    I felt that ending

  • @DeathPena1ty420
    @DeathPena1ty420 Před rokem +3

    This has been my favorite video form Brian. The FGC is shooting themselves in the foot. There are so many interesting personalities but they do a terrible job putting that out there. Think how much more intense some of these rivalries would have been if all of them had 100k CZcams subs. The K-Brad/Wolfkrone beef, the Fchamp/KBR drama. Those are million+ view videos that would come from that.

  • @Go.el_Hadam
    @Go.el_Hadam Před rokem +2

    I sub to you because of the perspective you give like this video.

  • @Sandman13sq
    @Sandman13sq Před rokem +6

    I love Brian's meta videos. Truly the dad of the FGC

  • @yttaku7584
    @yttaku7584 Před rokem

    its amazing to me that this sparked off of that drama, but your speaking facts. Been watching you since 2017 and from there I've noticed that your literally top FGC CZcamsr in my eyes next to Panda because i always see both you for SFV tips, high level gameplay, or just seeing whats new. Barely anyone else that I know from the FGC even does half of that and if they do there no effort or emotion in the videos. Im not dissing thought, id really like to see people from the FGC take a stand and start the content grind a little harder and maybe we would all see change.

  • @GuelermeDias
    @GuelermeDias Před rokem +4

    I think one big handicap FGC players face when producing content is that it's a LOT harder to be entertaining, engage with stream and do well in fighting games than in a lot of other genres, since you have minimal downtime during matches. There are ways around it but if you have trouble playing and speaking your streaming time isn't really all that productive.

    • @LampcTG
      @LampcTG Před rokem

      one of the best imo is punk, maybe because of the persona he has when playing anyway, but he has the ability to commentate while playing on an extremely high level

  • @StealthGamingAndroid
    @StealthGamingAndroid Před rokem +1

    Have to agree with what's said here; personally I think Stack Bradford is the perfect example of this. I found him through wanting to learn Akuma, has an incredible personality, regularly posts flashy gameplay. Plus the Stream Team Battle is more than what I see most do. If only we had more of that...

  • @gamedope
    @gamedope Před rokem

    I don't watch that many FGC creators, but Brian, you don't blabber, you give a great insight of the scene and the the whole gig. You are awesome!

  • @PeterAlanAnderson
    @PeterAlanAnderson Před rokem +2

    Your CZcams videos are one of the things that helped get me to become a more serious fighting game player. Yeah - CZcams filters people with the right mindset and content appetite to you. Twitch and Twitter aren't great for discoverability. CZcams loves to push people into new types of content to keep them binging back catalogues.

  • @yototata2578
    @yototata2578 Před rokem +3

    Hi ! First thanks for the video
    I'm just adding a stone to the construction here on something that bothers me :
    "Why don't our players make content ?"
    I just want to say that while I understand, imo it is important to keep in mind that it does add a mental stack on the person.
    And while great and all, not everyone CAN (and therefor should have to imo) make content.
    Personnal opinion. I just don't want people to be in a bad spot mentally for overworking when they can't.
    (For those wondering, because someone can make it doesn't mean everyone can make it. I for sure will never go to space because heart problem for example.)
    On these words,love y all. Take care of you !

  • @Aeolus_000
    @Aeolus_000 Před rokem

    is that the MGS2 Big Shell music? made this video feel weirdly ominous lol

  • @shinji2oo4
    @shinji2oo4 Před rokem

    i love that Linus Tech Tips popped up on the recommmended videos @ 12:20

  • @4o-3o
    @4o-3o Před rokem +2

    Brian f with the continued high tier meaty content

  • @Boganella
    @Boganella Před rokem +1

    Brian really might be one of the realest CZcamsrs i watch. As a viewer exclusively with no desire to become a personality I'm so starved for fgc content i have so many favorite fg players but compared to other things like league of legends i get to watch them so infrequently. I would love for more people to provide fans like me stuff to watch. eSports culture is a mixed bag but i personally enjoy finally having personalities who i find enjoyable to spend my free time watching. In a way they're my celebrities but the difference is celebrities show up in shows or music or movies, my favorite players will end up in a tournament top 8 on losers side and be out at 8th and have maybe 2 or 3 matches that got on stream so o end up with maybe an hour of content to watch from that tournament they showed up in

  • @lee1987923
    @lee1987923 Před rokem

    Thank you grand pa for sharing wisdom

  • @lectric
    @lectric Před rokem

    Boy do I feel that last segment about young dudes wasting away all that free time. Just like Brian I have the enormous luck of working from home but still the responsibilities do nothing but pile up, be it meetings, deadlines, other work stuff or simply LIFE STUFF you have to do (taxes, going grocery shopping, keeping the house clean-ish, having quality time with your SO, trying to stay active and healthy, meet with friends and family) holy moly, just so MUCH stuff simply to EXIST.

  • @Ninocci
    @Ninocci Před rokem +1

    I agree with you. Even if you look deeper you'll find competitive players that are godlike but they don't even have a twitter account...its nuts!

  • @TaimMeich
    @TaimMeich Před rokem +2

    I only watched twitch for tournaments. Then since I searched for SF stuff, I got recommended videos from thar Sajam comentator dude. Who ended up being someone eloquent and with good arguments and personality, so I followed, and eventually, watch almost every day on stream. And do you know how I found (and subscribed) to your channel? The same way! This balrog player is posting some videos, oh let me check out, oh, he's talking about interesting stuff or he has a well put together stream recap with nice match highlights, etc. I'm also pretty sure I got recommended your videos because I watched Sajam's, so that's also the part of the community helping the community.
    Meanwhile (and I know some of them are shy/not eloquent/dumb as a rock) better players are NOT capitalising on this to grow themselves and their audience. Astounding.

  • @ricardodasilva9241
    @ricardodasilva9241 Před rokem

    This video was hilarious and insightful at the same, pure gold haha

  • @Fran_5
    @Fran_5 Před rokem +7

    Why the fuck did they move them to LA to begin with?

    • @HellecticMojo
      @HellecticMojo Před rokem

      Shared locations are generally desired for work, especially back in the day of pre-covid where off site work was barely considered

    • @joecoolmccall
      @joecoolmccall Před rokem

      California is so expensive.

  • @shekeib
    @shekeib Před rokem

    I've been making crappy FGC content since 08 on my channel with only 500 subs. This video is inspiring me to really go for something I can be proud of with my channel. Thank you Brian.

  • @MalikEmmanuel
    @MalikEmmanuel Před rokem +3

    The first gaming house I ever hear of was Empire Arcadia.
    Long live the empire!

  • @MadaoAU
    @MadaoAU Před rokem +2

    I was working in Dota big org. I can tell you from experience that what you are doing is way more important. The players I had back then, the moment they didn’t bring in the results, their value was down the drains.
    Organisations need to put effort as well into educating their players as to why it’s important for both sides to do content.
    Being a good player doesn’t make you a Professional. In this space that your relevancy can last only so long, without engagement from fans, you are nothing, unless you are a Huge name like Knee, Daigo, and all the other huge players.

  • @mistr_z7654
    @mistr_z7654 Před rokem

    This is how I know you're feeling the age, you look back to your own wasted time. So naturally its maddening to see it wasted again.

  • @Slatanata22
    @Slatanata22 Před rokem +1

    Brian you're a really smart guy you earned my sub today

  • @finallyanime
    @finallyanime Před rokem +4

    the issue isnt content. it's GOOD content.
    Everyone & their mom loves streaming rants and unscripted content about vague strategy. No one ever hardly does scripted guides or teaching about neutral...it's just little tech stuff here & there. Mostly 1/3 of screentime in menus...annoying. super props to romolla...but even her testament guide was just kinda 'dont press buttons against sol' like...ok thats good advice but nothing i didnt already know.
    We dont need ANYMORE random streaming no offense...
    If i literally wasnt dealing with a serious life illness id just be making some myself but i cant. im exhausted just getting through the day otherwise id love to be the change i wanna see. Maybe ill have to do it bit by bit & hire a competent editor...

  • @rin2012
    @rin2012 Před rokem +1

    i do agree with the lack of content for fgc. strive and sf5 and tekken are kind of the only games i see consistent coverage. most games only have maybe like 3 channels that intermittently put out content. i'd love to see what's done for this game for games like bbcf or persona or melty, just anything anybody is playing. I dislike having to dig up stream archives or parsing through twitter for anything, and that's mostly just tech or matches, not rvrn entertainment

  • @abxy2257
    @abxy2257 Před rokem +3

    Content is also how you bring in new blood to the community.
    My gatewayto the fgc was Sajam's videos, as well as Momochi playing splatoon.

    • @rickyfajar5190
      @rickyfajar5190 Před rokem

      Ah yes Splatoon, a very well known footsie-heavy ground control game
      /jk

  • @Mrkrillis
    @Mrkrillis Před rokem +1

    Your videos inspired me to make my own channel and videos!

  • @nateolison7553
    @nateolison7553 Před rokem

    Almost every main stage evo game has a World Tour. Been that way since CPT in 2014. You could literally have a "First Take" style show about all the pro tours.

  • @Antifrost
    @Antifrost Před rokem +1

    I imagine most people in the FGC who're looking to get sponsored are expecting to be sponsored to play in tournaments, not make content. I can't say for sure, I've never been and never will be sponsored for anything, but that's the feeling I get from people. I do agree that that's not a very sustainable practice long-term with the mechanics of how tournaments operate, and I do hope that sponsors make it clear what they expect from their prospective players before they sign that fancy deal.