Which Denon AVR is Right For You? Denon X-Series A/V Reciever Buyer's Guide
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Thanks for the videos, glad to see then back on my feed... your videos helped me understand what I needed from a new AVR when I was shopping a while back ... my 90s Sony reciever finally died last spring and I picked up a Denon AVR S960H for a great price. So far I'm very happy with it for my living room entertainment system. Cheers, and happy holidays!
Got the 3600h on sale a couple of years ago and been very happy with it , just got a separate for my zone 2 patio speakers and it sounds great out there. I have learned so much watching this chanel and Youthman 👏🏽 my favorite youtube content
What an absolutely brilliant overview. Very useful and well explained. Thank you so much for putting this together!
Glad you liked it!
Dude, what a great super informative video. This is the video anybody wanting a denon receiver needs to watch.
I appreciate that! I wanted to make it more of a buyer's guide as opposed to just a Black Friday video talking about the pricing/deals. Thank you for watching!
Great video - thanks. Another reason to get the x3800h is access to Dirac.
Just unpacking my X4800H now. I was thinking of waiting for the x6800h coming out in January but after price revealed I just cant do it. The X4800H is on sale and purchased it from the Denon site. AC infinity fan is on the way. Cant wait to power it up.Thanks to you and Joe for all your great videos. Hopefully more to come😊
Hang in there Channa
Yeah, the price on the X6800H will make it out of reach for many. You are very welcome!
Great this video, keep up the good work!👍🏾
Thank you! Will do!
Would definitely love to see a video comparing S and X series from Denon. Glad to have your videos back man!
Copy that!
@@TechnoDad BTW, I noticed what looks like a few nice lenses for a DSLR/Mirrorless (not being nosey, swear!!) in the background. Just was thinking you'd be a good reviewer of photography equipment if that's an interest of yours. A major strength of your A/V videos (IMO) was discussing return on investment for items and photography equipment is just like audio equipment investment wise. Often one item 3x the price of another barely outperforms the more budget friendly choice- if at all. Would look forward to that, assuming it's something you'd enjoy. Best wishes on new chapter of your life regardless what direction it goes in!
Agreed. Would be cool to see what the S vs. X is all about.
And what is it with consoles and denon 6700h Xbox Sx works properly with denon. Does 4k 120hz have a problem or is it better to buy denon 4800h.
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Denon4700 1350e
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Had the onkyo txnr 585 for 6 years now just recently upgraded my tv to 4k just ordered the 3800h can't wait to hook it up I'm running all klispch speakers
Techno Dad how are you. Do you like Denon more than Yamaha? I find Yamaha to be a little more energetic. Something like an RX A1080
I got my X3800H earlier this year for a 7.1.2 configuration and I love it.
The black Friday pricing is wild.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy!
I just got the Dirac license on sale for denon x3800. Having issues on my MacBook after installing Dirac software “device not found”. Any tips? Thanks!
@@UnitedRedDevil13 damn! I’d say reset the device and reconnect everything on the wifi router. Other than that, I’m not too sure what else to do.
@@TechnoDad damn. Will do. Thanks a lot😩🥴
@@TechnoDad reset don’t work but i had to dig deep to an old 2015 av forums post. lol. Had to do with changing all the network settings in the denon, manually. Ip, dns, and router addresses. Finally got it to find the denon. Before i run Dirac, do i need to disable things in the settings and set the levels/distances to 0 or nah? Thanks Channa!
Thanks for sharing 😊
Thanks for watching!
Really informative video mate. I’m interested in your take on the two channel music capabilities of these? Do you listen to music on one at all?
Thanks! I have the X6700H, and I have been using it with a pair of Monolith T6 Towers, which are 4 ohm and not super efficient. Great sound!
Great video Channa. Looking to maybe upgrade my Yamaha AVR but gonna wait to see whats offered next year with new models.
Waiting is always a good bet!
Duck Fenon....Unreliable crap.
I just got the Denon 4800 and 6700 both on sale for $1700.00. Which one should I send back? The 4800 is updated and the 6700 is a few years old. Also I bought Definitive Technology - Demension DM 70 Towers (bi polar) and I'd like to compare the Klipsch 8060 FA II Towers sound. I'm looking to build an Atmos system and music is secondary but should still be adequate. I have X-BoxSx/Nvidia Sheild/Blu-ray Player/LG C2.
A1H doing 9.4.6 for me has been very impressive. Quite happy.
The 4800h does indeed have a zone 3 , unlike the 3800h, which was the main reason I bought the 4800, as I upgraded from the 4308 where I was using all three zones.
Nice!
Happy Thanksgiving and Black Friday Channa.
Happy Thanksgiving Cheekster!
I picked up an A1H for $3999 from B&H photo right after Black Friday.
I’d say wait for it after the holidays to return for that price! Trust me I didn’t believe what I was seeing for an hour or so. Even called Denon to price match but they said that department was closed for the weekend. Was not gonna take the chance on that so I bought from BH photo and it was delivered a few days later boxed like a tank. Mule kicking around the house with Joy! Hope someone else got the same deal!
Nice! That’s a great deal!
Happy Thanksgiving Channa❤
Happy Thanksgiving, Tristan!
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Giddy-up!!
Great video, prices in the US seem very high. Just priced the X3800H 20th Dec 2023 in the UK at £899 including all taxes and shipping.
Yeah 2800h just phoned Sevenoaks and they offered it for £550 to me
@@bravedwarf I got my price from Richer Sounds, and it includes a six-year warrantee as well.
That’s a good deal!
I got the 4700H as a Best Buy floor model for around $1200 this summer. Loving it. See no reason to upgrade. And external amp for separates is the next step. Also I use many of the legacy inputs on the 4700h and would miss them on the 3800, etc.
Nice pickup!
4500 owner since jan 20 and still love it. Only thing that has me eyeing new receivers is being able to add more height channels.
2 things- those external amps will wake your speakers up plus make your AVR last longer. Also I'd look at some cooling fans or an aircom, the cooler running temp will keep that 4700 kicking a$$ for a lot longer. Hot temp is my only complaint about the 4500.
Thanks I’m still rocking my 3700H
Nice! No need to upgrade!
Hey I need a new av receiver. Mostly for everything from gaming to movies mostly music though. I have a klipsch icon set up. 150w rms also need hdr10+ compatible. Which receiver would you recommend in the $700-1200 range?
Recently updated my X1300H to X2800H for USD950, along with LG OLED C7 (2017) to C3 2023 model. No sound upgrade as that is fine, running 5.2.2 setup.
Nice!
When you say there is no upgrade in the sound, so even if we upgrade from x2700 to x3700 or x3800 hope apart from power & chanel no sound upgrade we can see?
@@immanuelsuresh7739 My bad, I meant as in no upgrade in the hardware, kept my old speaker system/setup. The sound, per se, is definitely better, than with the previous AVR.
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What could be enough power for B&W 685 S2 in front with an AS 608 Sub-woofer in a average size room? (2.1)
I just found your channel. Did gou ever do a video comparing the X and S series Denon amplifiers?
Welcome! No, not yet...
A r 8500ha. Built like a brick out house also one reason I ended up picking the qn900 8k 75 inch tv over my original choice of Sony a95l oled..upscale all my equipment connected to it to 8k..built in Japan also like my old demon av1 se from many years ago seven channels at 170w heavy also and lives in the original box in the cupboard…..
i have a denon avr w1200x and im thinking about the x1800h
@Techno Dad is X3800Hs XT32 measuring system worth it over XT from X2800H when you want to use 5.1 in a (very) difficult room ?
I would say probably not. It would be more for the channel upgrade.
Thank for the reviews!!!
So I'm about to purchase 2 Klipsch RP6000F II and want to fire them with the 3800H - Sub will be a RP1200 SW
Most of the time I will listen to music only, wether through the eARC from the TVs spotify, my smartphone spotify via Bluetooth or the built in Denons spotify.
I want to bi-wire / bi-amp the Speakers, so my question is how the Watt output of the denon will be?
denon wiring guide suggests to use the "sourround back" channels to bi-amp/wire the speakers - so will there be 1 amp per channel? 105W at the highs and 105W at the lows?
Whew Jonas!......... slow down fellow audiophile.
There's a lot here. Perhaps some more time sifting through what's important to you or not. Please consider that a good stereo system & a good home theater system ARE mutually exclusive. One can have either, but not both.
Check the specs too. As a HT A/V receiver, the Denon 3800H fails with a frequency response of -3dB @ 20Hz to 20KHz because it can't handle any subwoofer frequencies below 20 (really 30). As a stereo receiver, the Denon 3800H fails because when used in a 2 channel mode, the distortion skyrockets.
The one semi-exception............. is to use that "excrement" brand's surround processor. It's the only way to sit on the fence without it being so uncomfortable.
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Any reason the X2800H-DAB is only 600€. Is this a lesser version on the X2800H?
Hello I have a question to ask you about a Marantz sr4003 AV receiver and I would like to know if it is a good Receiver or not as I am buying it second hand and the remote doesn't work and it doesn't come with the auddessy mic and I would like to know from you if it is worth buying it or not please let me know as I don't want to waste money thank you
Just replaced my 9 year old X7200Wa mostly because a power supply capacitor failed for the second time - I dropped it in the trash can. I decided to upgrade to newer technology (the X7200 had issues with CEC and Roku Ultra. I purchased the Denon 3800H from Best Buy to run my 7.2.2 system. I am very happy with the 3800H and the killer price I paid $1299.99 but if I had the money, the Denon AH1 would have been my choice. Thanks Techno Dad for your input
You are very welcome, Ted. Thank you for sharing your experience!
I’m looking into purchase a 9.4 Denon. Would that be ok to run my Bp9020’s ch 9040 a pair of D11’s a pair of A-90’s for Dolby and a pair of pro-800 for surround back heights.
I mean...the X3800H is still on sale - amzn.to/3REX6C1 - or the X4800H - amzn.to/3uWdFAr - but for that price, you are a small step away from the older, but still relevant X6700H - amzn.to/4acQp1d - but it depends on what other features you may want.
What happened to Yamaha receivers? I should update my x4300h. I need a prescription for one to convince my lady. Are you writing prescriptions?
Oh yeah, the X3800H or X4800H would be good for you. I had the Denon X6300H and I remember having to pay an upgrade charge for Auro-3D support.
What do i replace my Yamaha RX-V995 with?
The X1800H you show is not a US/ Canadian model. The US/Canadian model comes with Front Pre outs, making it more versatile than the 2800 in some respects. Adding a 100W amp to run just the front channel speakers is a very nice bonus. This model unfortunately does not have the Audessy XT32, but neither does the 2800.
Currently have X3400H - need height channels - looking for one of the X6xxx models.... but the new one X6800H is a gigantic price increase at £2,800 compared to previous model X6700 (not sure if difference between this and X6700H or site mistake) at £1,380 ?!?? What the hell - how can Denon justify the same upgrade model for over £1,400 (double) previous model?? The only thing I think is different that might be required for me is Dolby Vision pass-through - I thought I read on Denon spec sheet on their site that X6700 cannot pass through Dolby Vision - is that correct?
Do they know how low wattage this is compared to auto Audio systems and such a small space.
Wanted to know what do you think of the Polk xt-35 center channel speaker ??
a good speaker for the price. Better than XT30 center. I recommend xt35 for center channel.
This is the first time i've contacted an American site and it may well be the only time... but.... Usually our prices over here in the UK tend to be more (generally) than with you in the US... never the less. Three months ago I purchased the Denon AVC-X8500HA new in silver (which is an amp over here and not a receiver therefore no tuner) for £2,249. You can work out the £ to $ conversion due to fluctuations in the exchange rate, but either way that's a very good price. It was bought from a main dealer by the way and it's not a refurbished or a "seconds" unit but boxed and brand new with a six year guarantee.
Awesome deal! I bet the silver looks really sexy.
I miss recievers that add no latency to audio and have recording outputs
Got the X2800 for 430€ and like it so far
I was looking at the x1800, but I think the x2800 would be better but because room is right next to neighbour, I ended up getting a Samsung q600b soundbar with 9200s rears. It has a upfiring pair of front speakers, which I feel only produce processed front l+r but the overall sound is well enough for a lounge. 30 maximum for most films. The woofer only hits from about 40hz, and I crave deeper bass. But it is a very good sounding system. One day!!! 🙃
At least you got something much better than just the TV speakers! A win is a win.
Yeap! Love that the the x4800 is made is Japan 😁. Though I still want a class D system, looks like I’ll have to sacrifice & go separates to get it unless some new class D AVR gets announced soon
The previous versions were the 6500 and 6700. Wonder why Denon went with 6800 instead of 6900🤣😅
LOL!!!
Good video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hmm, I already got the a1h in hopes of continued support, and it’s more power, so I can plug in almost all of my speakers, and enjoy some good Atmos movies, though I just want to add, finding movies or music that needs or uses all 15 channels is hard,so I am not sure if I would recommend it to anyone thinking of buyying one, unless you like to have some spare power, or if you may have a big 7/9.1/2/4.2/4/6 set up
I make Atmos mixes. I try and put sounds in front wides and middle heights. Do you have a blu ray or media player?
@@TechnoDad yes I have both, I have a. Sony 4K blue ray player, and I believe either a second or third gen Apple TV 4K… I’ll get up tomorrow and try and hunt down your mixes, to give them a listen hopefully by around 11 am cst-12 cst, but we will see…
@@RyanDabrowskiBoilerUp No need to hunt, here's the zip file - technodad.biz/TDAtmosMP4August23 - there are four MP4s. Put them on a thumb drive and stick that into your Sony Blu Ray player. Play the files...enjoy!
@@TechnoDad thank you, I will give it a listen here in a couple of hours… I just have to go downstairs, and plug it into the player… you know what I also just want to ask, can I plug it directly into my Sony tv, or would that not work?
@@TechnoDad I just want to let you know, I have watched and I enjoyed the tracks you provided, hmm, well I want to also add the Atmos was definitely cool to hear, I also just want to add, that your tracks really help show me the benefits of having Atmos, so thank you for providing the tracks, to watch/listen to
6700 h going on my after 4 years so looking for a new receiver . I don’t think I’ll be going with Denon . My only advice would be to get an external fan because heat is a bad thing for these receivers. .
You're so right heat is tuff on these receiver. That's why i left denon and Marantz.
Iv got 6700 and its awesome for a 7.2.4...yes it heats up but its got 3 fans under the amplifiers built in
I have the 6800h and it does hot. What external fans are you using? I bought some usb one but the don’t automatically come on with the amp and I’m out of plug sockets, plus the are noisy. I have a load of spare quiet pc fans I’m thinking of using, I just need to do some research to see if I can get some sort of fan hub that runs of usb but has a temperature sensor in so I don’t have to manually switch then on.
@@curtismariani6303I've had luck with AC infinity aircom fans (what model you get will depend on your setup). They're pricey, but i have 2 that are going strong after 3 years. Pays for itself with heat/dust protection it provides, IMO. Even bought them for my external amps that really only get warm with extended music sessions at reference.
As far as I'm concerned, Japanese AVR's sound quite similar. None of them can play decent Hi-Fi Stereo. (Especially Denon)
I have the 6700h, is it worth considering a 6800h? I currently run 7.1.4 in a reasonably sized living room (with a couple of minor compromises). I have an LG 77” G2 with a Apple TV 4K and PS5 and I was thinking a better upgrade path for me would be to get the Emotiva BasX A3 to power my front 3 channels. I’m starting to collect a few 4K blue rays so probably going to get a decent dedicated 4K Blu-ray player as well.
Same with me, I have the 6700h. I don't see enough differences to spend the huge chunk of change. I'm considering the BasX A3 as well to step into separates and that is much cheaper. I plan to add 2 more atmos "7.1.6" so since the 6700h can already process that there isn't really a need for another receiver.
WE HAVE THE SONY A95L IN 77’’ WITH DENON AVR XR6700H , WITH A SENNHEISER AMBEO MAX 500 WATT SOUNDBAR , A PANASONIC DPU9000 BLU RAY PLAYER, AN ANALOGUE NAKAMCHI 900 WATT AMP. WITH A 30 BAND YAMAHA EQUILIZER . AND 12 JBL 3 SPEAKERS A PIECE SPEAKERS.
WE USE ALL 13 CHANNELS TO BREAK DOWN SPORTS , TV AND 4KUHD BLURAY MOVIES. THIS SYSTEM BLOWS PEOPLES MIND WHEN THEY SIT IN THE 5 VALANCIA TUSCANY THEATRE SEATS TO WATCH FOOTBALL OR TOPGUN 2 .
I would keep the X6700H and get the power amp.
I had the BasX A3 and that worked well for my front stage. I would go with that and not upgrade to the X6800H due to the price...
@@TechnoDad awesome, that is what I thought, thank you.
I received my 3800H today. I'm connecting it to my new A80CL. Can I connect it via HDMI to port 3 and 4 on TV so I don't have to keep toggling the HDMI input from Dolby to VRR?
It depends on if you are using the apps on the TV?
I don't use the apps on the television. I use a Roku, UB820, Xbox x series.
Can connect to TV when turning on or Whfi like BT which plugs into the back.
Great advice but My eyes is on that Onkyo 7100 planning to have overhead speakers
Nice!
@@TechnoDad I see u change house to get a better living room setup hope this one doesn't have the hole in the roof my setup now is 7.2 ear level could go 5.2.2 but I choose 7.2 that why I need two overhead four is too much for my space, can't wait to see what u do with the new house like villa man
Hey I got a dennon 4700 is the 4800 a step up, I'm running 4 sub configuration. Will it be better to just use my mini dsp to to align my 4 subs or get the 4800 and just let dennon configure it for me. Thank u.
Hi! I would stay with your X4700H. If you already have it working, then there really is no reason to upgrade.
Thank you for replying , well they are pretty close to being aligned I ll stay with the 4700h.
Happy Birthday Channa, Joe told me to say it
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i want to know the why to stay away from teh s series! i was just contemplating getting one of those but now i want to know the difference
Same here
Hey boss how do I hook up a 3 channel amp to my AVR x8500ha . How do I select the preouts in the menu can't find it
Just go into the menu->manual setup-> speakers-> assign -> select each speaker and click left or right button where it says pre out (this option totally disconnects the Amplifier of that channel and will provide 3.5volts of power via RCA outputs. You need to use RCA outputs from your AVR.
Nice receiver’s but once you go processor and power amp you can’t go back
I dunno. I've done that a few times.
according to Gene at audioholics Denon guarantees 70% into 5 channels but in their testing it applies to 7channels after that it drops further
@TechnoDadDoes the 6800 allow 3d video pass through
Not sure…I would imagine it would, but cannot confirm.
If you have 4 subs hooked up, does the extra three subs count as 3 extra channels used?
subs are pre-out and they don't count toward your regular channels. Hence 9.4 (.4 is number of subs) 11.4 if you included the 2 none-amp channels.
No. LFE is still only one channel.
What’s a decent budget 2 channel amp I can buy. I just want to run two speakers .
What speakers are you using? Would require that info to recommend. But on average: I recommend emotiva basx a2
I advice against 7.1.6 because there is a video of some guy who actually does the mastering of movie theatre films to 4K UHD BluRays and he says the best configuration for your home is a 9.4.4 because having 6 speakers on top makes the top layer too crowded and not spacious. You can easily locate the mid top speakers. He also said the front-wide channels do help a lot with the base layer being more atmospheric and closer to the theatre experience. So go 9.2.4 or if you have the space to use 4 subwoofers for optimal bass saturation.
I don't think the wide channels even get used most of the time because they only get used by Atmos processing if the Atmos sound objects are panned from front to side surround speakers... if they use static objects... which almost all movies do only - then any objects on front or surround channels will *never* be played on the wide channels at all - I think Ealan Osbourne even had video about this, where he found nothing coming out of his wide channels at all for many movies. And this mastering guy saying don't use top middle? Even TechnoDad here showed in his test audio videos that they are much better than a blank space in middle, so...not sure the mastering guy knows what he is talking about, or how the home systems work!
I have the x3700h, which is fine for running my 5.1.4 system, but sucks for video gamers.
Cant pass-thru hdmi 2.1 signals, so my ps5 and xbox sx i just run thru my tv’s e-arc. This is a bummer and means not even useful avr for input switching.
I heard Denon stopped cheaping out paid for the better hdmi 2.1 passthru chip for 3800h series??
Hi Edog! Yes, they fixed that issue with the newer X3800H, which is on sale right now for decent price, but still…you’re buying a new AVR - amzn.to/3NshWlx - I am using the X6700H and only using the one 8K port but I am getting the three port switcher box that Denon released, the AVS-3 - amzn.to/41pM4no - you could use this if your x3700H has the fixed chip inside.
You didn't say anything about zone speakers being able to be B speakers in the same room, I am sick of all this zone 2, I want to know what can I run B speakers on Denon AVR-X3800H and Up? I just want to hear the source at the same volume across from the room away from the TV
what about the 1700x?
When is the 6800 coming?
I think first quarter of 2024
What are thoughts on the onkyo receivers?
Well build for the price. Klipsch would be better speakers for that AVR ( as this avr can handle those speakers a lot more efficient and effortless than other speakers)the amplifer section on onkyo, Pioneer, Integra is little weaker than denon and marantz.
You also get an advantage of dirac. If that's important for you.
Mmmmmmmm x8500HA ... Yes please.. I can't afford that A1H .. but that 8500 is really tempting.
...Think it's worth trading off my x6700 for that 8500?
OH man, I dunno. I guess if you wanted everything in one box for 13 channels?
@@TechnoDad- I think maybe it's just an itch .. ya know? Like, Im aware there are more channels and options .. but I don't really need that upgrade?
yah.. Maybe I'll invest more into the space and keep the full Monolith 7.0.4 system for now.
Have to train myself to resist that pointless consumerism when I already have enough. ( more than MANY people have )
Is it worth upgrading from AVR-X4300H to AVR-X4800H?
Yes, I would go that route for sure! I had the X6300H, same year as your X4300H. A lot of new features have come by since then. More HDR formats, higher resolution, new HDMI board, and the new GUI is awesome!
Thanks for the comparison I picked up a 6700 from Best Buy they clearance it out at 1,500 is there any advantage of getting the 3800 or 4800 not worried about power I have external amplifier
Thanks
@@TechnoDadJust bought the AVR-X4800H😊
x1700 vs s970 same price rn, which one do you recommend and 80w/ch vs 90w/ch
X1700h. It better built in its Amplifier handling than the other.
Is the x2800 any better than the x2700?
Not really a big jump.
Yes it's better but not by miles.
I WOULD LOVE THE A1H IF I HAD THE MONEY...I JUST GOT 7.6 SET UP..
That's a big AVR!
Hi Everyone... question, What receiver should I buy? The Denon AVR-X8500HA OR Denon AVR-X6800H??? The reason I ask is because it looks like the x8500HA just got a 25% off promo on several big box websites. I planned on the x6800h, but it seems like a deal to just get the 'better' receiver with the discount. Thanks for any feedback!!!
It totally is a better deal to get the older AVR. As long as you don't need the features of the X6800H, you should be good to go.
Thanks @@TechnoDad for the feedback! Keep up the good work. You're one of only 3-5 QUALITY content providers that are watchable on YT (format, info, presentation, etc). Cheers. I finally went with an x3800h + 2 separate amps for fronts/rears from Emotiva. I got more watts/power, saved 700 bucks, then threw some leftover $ at upgraded 10 AWG ready made cables with banana plugs, and a boom tripod mic stand for the Audyssey to calibrate accurately.
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Nice!@@TechnoDad I'll check it out. That fine tuning is definitely needed after all the effort on the equipment 😆
Need help guys! I'm building a 5.1.2 setup. Will not change this for next 8 years.
Should i get NEW Cinema 60 for 1100 dollars, a X2800H for 628 dollars or a used X3500H for 385 dollars?
BTW, using a Shield Pro 4K and a UST 4K laser beamer so no 8K needed.
Would require more information about what speakers you are using.
The denon x3x00h series can provide
42watts (multitone frequency) at 4ohm load,
28.5watts(multitone frequency) at 8ohm load.
both rated with 9ch driven.
For cinema 60 just add 10watts extra to the aforementioned power rated.
If you need dirac then can go for cinema60 if dirac isn't much of an importance then going for 3500h would be better than 2800h.
@@audiodynamicsmaxsolutions Thanks for your reply.
I have a dedicated home cinema room 9 feet x 16 feet.
Klipsch RP800F's for front, 504C Center and RP-500M as rears. The 2 atmos speakers are Bowers and Wilkins CCM663's.
@Mediamarktfreak in that case, I would advice you to purchase used x3500h avr or if you are into dirac room correction system then cinema 60 would be worth. I can gurantee you that there's no audible difference between dirac live + bass control vs audyssey assuming both have been calibrated accurately in right way.
Unfortunately my equipment rack can't handle the DENON A1H.
That’s a big AVR!
@@TechnoDad 70 pounds!
Told you that I'd be watching.
Hi Tim!
@@TechnoDad Hey man. (Fistbump)
The great thing about the 1800 is it has front channel pre-out. The 2800 does not!
Really? I only saw two Sub outs on the X1800H...X2800H has zone 2 pre outs as well as 2 sub outs...
@@TechnoDad Yes, the picture on the denon site shows the front pre outs next to the sub outs, and it still has zone 2 pre outs!
Got a 6700h for 1400, big upgrade for me
Woot woot! Great price!
Hi, thinking of getting this model at that price too... the newer X6800H is ridiculous £2800... one question... do you know or can confirm if it can pass through Dolby Vision format video eg from a 4K disc which is in this format through the AVR direct to a Dolby Vision TV like LG OLED? Reading on Denon site specs it says it can't?
@@anone3842 Yes it can, I use it with my 4k discs and it passes the Dolby Vision through. I turned off most other processing so it’s pretty much just a straight pass through and then I let my tv do the processing. I have a Sony OLED.
try sending 1400p through any Denon/Marantz and report back. until then these are not in any way gaming compatible in 2023
3800h for over a year with all channels run on external amp, auro 3D is by far my favorite.
Nice!
Which amp are you using? Just got my 3800h but haven't stepped into separates yet. I would like to in the future though.
@@deepg7084 I went BasXA11, but I bi-amped the front left and right, 5.2.4 but able to use all 11 channels from amp in this configuration.
Pre covid price, meaning pre inflation price.
Yamaha A8A
Who do you think has a better sound Denon or Marantz ?……….
None. Both are equal when utilizing room correction software. Marantz is better only in terms of built quality of its Amplifier. That's all
You get closer to 60 watts per channel at 7 channels
Thanks!
I MITE GET THE X6700H...ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE A 7.6 SYSTEM ..2 CAR BOX CAR SUBS 1 6" SUB FROM ORIGINAL RCA RECEIVER..AN 12" KLIPSCH SUB..
ALSO NO 2 CH FOR ME...7 CH ALL THE WAY..
The longer I live: buy once cry once
Also me: the older I get, the less I need
7.1.6 tight is the least of my hurdles. The wife's not having ceiling speakers. 😒
Damn!
Currently have the 6700 and cant wait for the 6800 to release!!! Will purchase asap .
Nice!
DON’T WASTE YOUR MONEY 6700 HAS 95% OF SAME FEATURES AS 6800. YOU ARE A MORON FOR SPENDING $4,500 ON THE 6800.
GOT THE 6700 UP HERE IN CANADA AT VISION ELECTRONICS FOR $1,450 CDN . WHEN IT CAME OUT 3 YEARS AGO IT WAS $3,600 CDN .
15:57 I’m willing to pay a bit more for a quality product assembled in Japan. They use better components. I can get the 4800 for 1.300 euros or the Marantz CINEMA 50 also for 1.300 euros. I’m not sure what to get, yet.
Alleged Denon has better cinematic qualities and Marantz better audio music qualities.
Personally, I would go with the X4800H.
Too bad they don’t have two HDMI outputs, I’d rather still buy the S970H because of that.
I can't imagine running wire for all this shit. 😅. I geek out on it, but nope.
Just discovered there's no point in blowing cash on stupid Soundbars but instead get an AVR. Sadly after learning a lot, all these have some or other issues from Onkyo having bs QC problems, Yamaha making their AVRs with plastic despite solid quality and sound, Marantz and Denon downgrading their AKM based AVRs to a cheap Ti DAC chip. Arcam having insane price but nothing out of ordinary etc etc. I'm thinking Yamaha A6A for now.
Yes compare the S and X series
for the price of expensive avrs. their amp section should be like 150 watts into 8ohms minimum and 200 watts into 4 ohms. most have garbage amps. and they wanna charge like over 2k, some avrs are over 6000 dollars…. and still have bugs. 🤦🏻🤦🏻
Yes, that’s the problem. People who buy in the price categories surely (like me) have big floor standing front speakers and even my center is rather big. Why don’t they build asymmetrical amps with 2x250 or even 300W for front ( and Stereo) and 7x80 W or so. You can draw 1500W with no problem from any socket in the world. In Germany you can draw 3,5 kW out off a normal power socket….
And digital amps have a real good efficiency factor and don’t get too hot like class A. Ok, one could buy a stereo power amp or two mono blocks, but I don’t want to clutter my room with too much gadgets. The best subwoofers, like SVS, have amp with 1000 to 3500W ! And you need Watts for bass.
My front speakers would play so much deeper and fatter with more power.
People who buy in the price categories surely (like me) have big floor standing front speakers and even my center is rather big. Why don’t they build asymmetrical amps with 2x250 or even 300W for front ( and Stereo) and 7x80 W or so. You can draw 1500W with no problem from any socket in the world. In Germany you can draw 3,5 kW out off a normal power socket….
And digital amps have a real good efficiency factor and don’t get too hot like class A. Ok, one could buy a stereo power amp or two mono blocks, but I don’t want to clutter my room with too much gadgets. The best subwoofers, like SVS, have amp with 1000 to 3500W ! And you need Watts for bass.
My front speakers would play so much deeper and fatter with more power.
Yo Channa D.😊
Hi Mike!
@@TechnoDad hey buddy I hope things are falling into place for you. You will be okay whatever you do.
He just briefly explained why he thought the s series was not as good as? 🤦🏾🤬