Sony RX10 IV Review | If I Can Only Use ONE Camera, This Is It For Me (2018)
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- čas přidán 30. 01. 2018
- After using the Sony RX10 IV ( amzn.to/2Gz4Mit ) for 2 months, I can easily recommend this camera to just about anybody as the best camera if you had to choose ONE camera to own and use for general purpose photography and 4k quality video capture.
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Thanks Mike! You're review helped me in my decision process and I couldn't be happier with my new RX10IV. It truly is an amazing camera.
Hi Mike, bought my RX10 about 5 months ago. Your video is very positive and compared to many videos I watched, your speec and tone is very easy to listen to and I got a lot more out of your video than others. I haven't shot since film days so I'm getting back into hobby photography. Mostly outdoor and low light shots of nature and bands, Thank you!!!
New to this , watched way too many camera review videos over the past 2 weeks and finally , great to be not patronised and great not dealing with presumed knowledge, just great!!! Thankyou for helping me make that not insubstantial purchase decision!!!
I totally agree with all what you said. I bought it for all the reasons you mentioned. Luckily it’s been 10 years since I bought my last DSLR! so this was perfect for me as a travel camera. I am looking forward to fully exploiting all its amazing features.
thank you for the review This camera was recommended to me by a friend that shoots professionally and also works at a high end camera shop in Boston. I will consider this a valuable second opinion. I have made my decision and i will buy this one. Thanks again.
Hi Mike, great video! I bought this camera about a month ago and I'm still completely blown away by it. I'm just getting my first decent tripod this week (Manfrotto 546B tripod legs and 502A head) and am looking to getting some nice indoor shots as well as using it for travel. As a user of other Sony systems (HDR Camcorder and Action Cam) much of it all fits together at a minimum with the PlayMemories Home suite.
I really like your knowledgeable but laid-back presentation style and have subscribed. Here's hoping you hit your target! All the best, Rob in Switzerland.
Hi Rob!
Thanks for watching, the comment and the sub! I've never thought about my style for the channel, but I guess you're right! I make generally laid back presentation style videos mostly when talking about tech and cameras.
That tripod/head combination from Manfrotto sounds really solid. Too much for myself when traveling for fun, but you must be doing some pro work with the RX10 IV and am happy that it is exceeding your expectations as it has mine.
Play Memories home is pretty surprisingly decent if you stick in the ecosystem. I'll admit that with all my other cameras, and workflow with DXO and Lightroom, I haven't been using it as much, eventhough I should now that I must have at least half a dozen Sony Playmemories Home compatible cameras and camcorders still.
Crossing fingers for 1,000 soon, even if I don't hit the Feb 20th deadline.
Happy New Year!
Mike
Thank you! So glad to know that this camera is the one to get. Haven't shot anything other than long zoom bridge and want better.
Hi Mike, some great advice here. I also took the plunge about 1 month ago and brought the Sony RX10 IV. I love the versatility of the camera. I also have had a Nikon D300S for around 12 years now and used a Nikkor 70 - 200mm f2.8 with a 1.8x convertor using them for wildlife. Unfortunately the load was getting too heavy for me, both weighing just over 2Kg without a bag and tripod!! Not so enjoyable on a day out. So I traded in the Nikkor lens and convertor and brought the Sony - and I love it. I still use the Nikon camera along with Nikon PB-6 bellows for macro, but mostly at home or not to far away. The weight was putting me off - but now with the Sony I'm having a great time with excellent results. I love the fold out screen making low pic's of fauna much easier to set up. Though the menu style is very different I'm gradually getting used to it
Hi Mike, I've owned one in November and I'm fully agree with you, for the majority of time, this is the sole gear we need for Imaging...Quality is insane, and except some limitation in low light and high iso, this is my prefered camera now. I'm also equipped with Sony A7/A7s and some good objectives, but for an every day shooting, the RX10 IV is covering any subject.
Your video was very good, nice relaxed manner. But, more impressive is the effort you put in to responding to questions. Very nice. You certainly have more patience than me lol
ps don't feel you need to respond to this, you've earned a rest :) Well done!
Hi Mike, I used to run a Canon 7D Mk2 with several lenses....not anymore as I bought one of these 3 weeks ago and I am so pleased with it. Ideal for virtually everything a hobby photographer/videographer needs in one package. Fab video thanks for sharing 😀👍
Hi Shane,
Thanks for watching and the comment.
Have you sold off your Canon gear yet or are you holding out for Canon's answer to this beast of a camera? I had been waiting for Canon for a while to make an awesome G series to match. Each time they inch closer, Sony pulls way, way ahead.
Cheers!
Mike
Hi Mike, yes I sold the Canon, as much as I loved the camera it really wasn’t suitable for my needs now, with the Sony I can pack it in my motorcycle top box and go, capture stills and video with one camera and no extra lenses. Have to say I am more than delighted with the results.
I’m sure Canon will bring something out equally as good but by then Sony will have brought out the Mk5 version and it will be way ahead of the pack again.
That is exactly what I am busy with - selling my 7D2 and many lenses - My RX10 iv has arrived and collecting on Monday - Thanks Mike for a great review :-)
I owned the lumix fz2500, and it is definitely video centric. Soft lens for stills. The rx 10 mk iv is so very much better for stills and greater zoom. I sold the lumix . Great review. Thanks.
Very good and informative review. Just bought this camera in the hope that it can indeed largely replace my APSC ILC system with an acceptable (limited) trade off for image quality. After a while, it has become increasingly annoying to either lug around tons of equipment or feel like i'm missing exactly the lens(es) i decided not to bring...
Nice video here Mike. I agree 100% with everything you mentioned here. I have owned this cam since November 2017. It really does well in low light- not the best at night outside - but good indoors in low light. Although there is a low light video of this cam on youtube that looks pretty good at night at 3200 ISO. People just need to quit comparing specs on paper and take your gear outside and start testing and pushing its limits.
Im just more interested in the video settings at the belagio fountain. Is it straight out of the camera on auto? Thanks.
Great review on this camera. I sold my Sony a900 FF camera, then moved to the lighter a77II APS-C camera with all the various and very expensive lens systems, and now just have my RX10IV and older RX100II. The image quality from the RX10IV is significantly better than what I was able to achieve in my two previous larger sensor cameras. The Zeiss 24-600 zoom is the sharpest lens I've ever owned. Recently I had a canvas wall print done at 1.5 metres wide x 1 metre high, all off the tiny 1" sensor! Admittedly I gave it a helping hand by processing it through Topaz Gigapixel which delivered a 1.6GB print file, but even at this very large size of 5 feet wide, you can see every fine detail in the shot. Incredible camera!!!
That’s awesome. What resolution do you upsize it’s to for that size of canvas wall print?
@@MikeMu 300dpi
Thanks Mike just bought the RX 10 IV because of your great review.
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@@ahmedrashed78 so far i love it. im not a pro but the size and performance is great for me. i almost got the P1000 but it is so much bigger but i did like the distance it could shoot.
@@mountainbiker6098 awesome, I have the P1000 already and the reach is crazy but as you said it's little large and the stills quality is average due to small sensor size, 4k is awesome however
Thanks for sharing...nothing less we can expect from Minolta...now Sony ...
Great share. I am always interested in opinions regarding the color production. Do you and/or others feel that this camera produces natural colors when printing images? Thanks!
Great info video! I have many Sony cams like A7s, A6000, HX400V, AS-50, HDR-700V (Lost in Lombok! ), and Sony Mic, etc. I'll get this cam eventually. I wonder if Sony is going to have a new HX500V coming soon? Its a while now.
After viewing your video, I bought the camera. I sold my Sony 70-200 lens that I used on my A7R2 because it was so heavy and didn’t give me the range I needed to capture birds and other wildlife. I still use my A7R2 for macro, portraits, and low light situations, but the RX10 IV is perfect for trips to the zoo, sports, birds, and video.
Hi Sandra,
That's a really good use for the RX10 IV. I'm glad I could help lighten your load for outdoorsy type shots. Do you have a link to some of your photos I can take a peek at? I'd love to see what you're capturing out there.
-Mike
Mike Mu I recently posted some photos from the Oakland Zoo on my Flickr account under the name Sandylp I used to take my 70-200 lens with a teleconverter to the zoo, but it was too heavy to comfortably carry around while walking around for hours spent at the zoo.
Hi Sandy I just got one too. You are a fantastic photographer. Sue Cameron I am anxious to see your photos on Intagram.
@@sandyp123 Wow, your photos are beautiful.
Mike Mu,,I wanted to ask you is the Menu on this camera very similar to the A6000 ? l'm thinking i'm used to my A6000 and if i purchased this camera it would be easy to get used to it, I really like the idea of not carrying gear with me when i go out into wild. I have couple of lens for A6000 and also have a Canon 80D with 150-600 that i really like but if this RX10 IV has the same reach I wouldn't mind just having that . I would keep one of the other two just for a back up Camera, I'm not a professional.
Fantastic video! I am 14 years old and bought my rx10iv at the end of last year. I was debating between it or the A7ii (a7iii didn’t come out yet) or maybe even the a7rii. I have an a6300 as well. I ended up going for the rx10iv and I love it except for the low light capabilities. My dad has a canon 1dx and after looking at his sport images shot at 6400- 25600 iso with little noise it makes me wish this could do better in low light. He was very impressed with the quality coming out of this camera. I think it is fantastic for bird photography since a good telephoto lens for a full frame Sony is $1000-$12000! The reach this camera has is just insane for the price and quality when compared to those cheap bridge cameras made by companies like Nikon. I will be probably renting the a7riii and 16-35 2.8 GM for a trip where I hope to do lots of landscape photography which will be printed very large. Overall I can not agree with you any more that this camera is fantastic. I really think interchangeable lens cameras are over rated especially for consumers when most of them never step away from the kit lens. The biggest misconception with this camera is that it is “compact. “ while it is not very big, it is just a hair lighter than an a7 series or a9 camera with a lens such as the 16-35 GM. I was surprised how heavy and well built feeling it is when I opened up the box. Anyways, nice work on the review.
Eli,
Thanks for the comment and your thoughts.
The 1" sensor is never going to match a full frame in low light. The differences in imaging sensor size are significant in comparison. The RX10IV is also good for landscape photography. You can stitch the images and use a tripod in a cinch to pull out more resolution. But for single shot resolution, your A7RIII and 16-35mm combo is going to win easily. Just don't forget to rent some filters for that 82mm thread lens.
-Mike
are you sure you are 14 years old?
you didn't sound like 14 years old at all
I bought one couple days ago. I am by no means a professional photographer but this is an amazing camera. There are so much to learn about this camera. But it is taking phenomenal pictures.
Don't forget the video recording - just as good!
sound advice i must be the only person that likes a bridge camera because of no dust issues as no else mentions it, seems to be the pro future if on;y it could be complemented with a wide only version 35mm equivalent of 16 -35
Thanks for the review.
The #Sony #RX10M4 is the #King of #Bridge #Superzoom
#Cameras.
It rules them all, yet expensive.
A bridge with 1" sensor, or a 1.5" Sensor (or a
1.5" multi aspect sensor like the #LX100, why not?) is a good compromise.
I have the #90D, the #SL2 and the #SX530HS....
My first digital bridge camera was the #SX530HS...
it's 1/2.3-inch sensor but you get a lot from it than a smartphone.
The market is shrinking...
Smartphones are pretty advanced today, good for people who want to shoot decent photos and for people you want to share on social medias
for "quick views and likes"...
This is what most people do today,... printing is rare, but a lot of social medias.
For social medias, it's mainly smartphone: then difficult to tell the difference between 4k and 1080p, a photo shooted with an 1"
sensor or #M43, #APSC, maybe with a #FullFrame,...
People on social medias don't really pay attention to details...
They look quickly, like and/or comment, Scroll down
Some like without even really look...
But smartphones can't replace camera and the glass (optics) for now...
How many cameras you have to add to a cellphone to really compete a digital camera?
I have a #Samsung #Galaxy smartphone, its awesome, this makes me thinking what Samsung could deliver if they did not exit the digital
camera market.
The #NX1 was an amazing #APSC.
People will come back a bit to digital cameras, at least for advanced compacts, beginner mirrorless , when they are tired of selfies.
Digital camera companies are learning as well, the camera apps are getting better and better....
#Zeiss understands the concept, #ZX1: #Shoot + #Edit in camera (app or #Lightroom) and #Share =>>> as quick as possible!!!
Bridge superzoom cameras are a good option for people who want to learn photography without putting too much money on gears.
Bridge cameras offer DSLR / Mirrorless like functionalities.
Lessons learned with them help when you upgrade to a bigger camera, bigger sensor, ... that was my case when I switch to an #APSC.
The 1" sensor bridge cameras are awesome...
Sony / Nikon / Panasonic Lumix / Leica :
1.- Waiting to see what #Sony #SonyAlpha will deliver us with a #RX10MV, but hope the screen will be a fully articulated one.
Don't know if they have plan for a new menu system?!?!
Sony should probably work silently and quietly on their menu system and make heads spin with an update, when people are not expecting the big change.
2.- Hope #Canon with add built-in EVF in the next #G3X, the
#PowershotG3XMII, why not a #CanonEOSRP body like?
3.- #Nikon should bring back the #DL24-500, the specs were amazing. czcams.com/video/AUJL_JuyoM0/video.html
4.- I guess #Panasonic #Lumix will upgrade the popular #FZ2500 / #FZ2000 => #FZ2500MII / #FZ2000MII => The famous Dad Cam!!
5.- Owners of #FZ1000MII and #LeicaVLux5 / #VLux5 are happy.
#PanasonicLumix #FZ2500M2 / #FZ2000M2 = #G95 / #G90 with fixed lens?
Bridge Hybrid Superzoom for Videos ans Stills like those are more that important.
Good Luck.
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Very nice review. Very informative! Mike where can I source the soft touch shutter button? What brand is it?
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Thanks, doesn’t seem like there are any newer better options 5 years later
Thank you Mike, after watching your video my appreciation for this camer has grown significantly. I personally find the menu and it´s multiple option a bit confusing since it has so much to choose from; could you recommend a link where I can have a clear explanation on all of this in detail.?
Hi Luis! Thanks. I did a quick search on CZcams and found that there are some tutorials that last almost an hour. They must go into quite some detail on them. IUnfortunately, I have not watched any of them to recommend any but I imagine the selection should cover just about everything. Search for 'Sony RX10 IV tutorial ). Have a safe holiday season.
This and the LUMIX FZ2500 are probably the Best Cameras on the market bar none.
Mike, I really liked your review + your recommendations for accessories. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the links below your presentation screen that you mentioned [using a Mac and Safari]. Do I need to use a different browser or look somewhere else? Thanks!
Hi Allen!
Thanks. Do you have an option to click on "Show More"? If not, I don't know why it isn't showing for you. I hope my reply to this comment shows up for you:
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Great video, Mike! If you had to choose between this and the Nikon P1000, which would you go with and why? I'm a non-pro wanting to upgrade from my smartphone camera.
If it wasn’t obvious it’s this camera for all the reasons mentioned already. The P1000 is all about the telephoto end of things. A fun camera I’m sure (never owned one) but the quality of the photos and pictures isn’t enough to entice me.
Of course if all I’m doing is posting on Instagram, either would be fine. But the P1000 is even more of a beast to carry around and use properly.
I took at stab at this topic in 2018. Today I'd add the XT-3, XT-30 to the list. amzn.to/2JXBGf0
Hi Mike, I just subbed and would like to buy this camera, how is it with macro shots
being that it has such a high telephoto lens? Thanks and great video
NEO DON Hi! I love taking closeup shots, and this camera does well enough for general shots. Ie closeup of flowers, insects, textures. If you want to look closely at the individual eyes, this won’t be able to get that close.
Excellent review.
Thanks!
14:15, I'd like to know a little more how you would edit using proxy files. Do you have a video on this subject, or know of one? I appreciate your RX10IV review, thanks!
Hi Dennis,
Basically you 'trick' Adobe Premiere by substituting the files of the exact same name with the 4K versions. So I'd do all the edits with the proxy low resolution files which I keep in the edit folder. And then when I'm ready to produce, I point Premiere to the 4k version either by renaming the previous folder so Premiere cannot find it and asks you to point out where the files are / or just exchange the proxy files with the 4k version of the files.
Matt Who is Matt Johnson created a general video for Premiere on this. No, its not with this particular camera's proxy files but he goes over Proxy in general and provides some 'tools' for you to do what he does for giving up your email address: czcams.com/video/-b8VtZX62XA/video.html
Cheers,
Mike
Good review but I would have stressed the phase focusing technology since it's main competition uses contrast focus.
Hi Carl,
That's a great point for us more technical people. The main competition in this market was from Panasonic. They would argue that their enhanced contrast focus (DFD) system is more accurate and can be just as fast for photos and fine tuned to be as fast and more accurate than phase technology.
So.. I just left it as fastest autofocus at this time.
Great video Mike. As it's not possible for me to have bigger prints with this model ,can we expect newer model with bigger megapixel in 2020 from Sony's point and shoot RX 10 family.
Funny you should mention that. Someone just commented that they use Gigapixel by Topaz Labs to produce BIG prints.
Will see if Sony makes any announcements at CES coming up, but I doubt it. Next major announcement may come at photokina late May.
@@MikeMu thanks brother.
Good review. I'm considering this model to replace my current Nikon D7500 kit. Has your opinion changed since this video was published in 2018? Thanks for your input!
While it has not (for one camera) I now mostly carry the Rx100 Mark VII as it is 'pocketable'. It does not do as well with handheld video, or photo, but the portability is awesome. Compared to a D7500 Kit, the RX10IV would still be my preferred way to go. The RX100 VII: amzn.to/3AccCMZ
hi i got sony rx10 m4 for video recording with every clip its save thumbnail is well i want to stop please can you help thanks
All Sony cameras do this.
Excellent review, and a fantastic voice. You’re wasted on CZcams.
The only thing that made me pass this beast up was no flip out screen!
Hello, how to take the best sports pictures at night under average lighting, without having blurry images, is in AF C, AF S, or AF, ....
Night sports is challenging for any camera, except for maybe the high end $4k+ systems capable of shooting at 1/1000 shutterspeed even at night sports.
Not sure what average light is for you, but its probably really dark still.
Best bet is higher ISO - try 3200+ iso; maybe higher (but it will be more grainy/noisy). Maybe even 6400iso.
AF-C
AF Area Wide (starting out)
AF Center or flexible spot if you are after that one subject in middle of frame.
Shutter speed shorter than 1/500.
You might not be able to accomplish this unless at a professional venue.
If you get a chance, share some of your results or fails at previous shoots and I can tell you what's going on.
Sorry to bug you but I looked and couldn't find a definitive answer...is there a battery grip I can get for this? i'm going to be purchasing this in the next couple of weeks and was just curious because I had a grip on my Sony A7ii
Unfortunately, I don't know of any battery grip made for the RX10 series. But if you want extended shooting, a dummy battery can be used to power the unit up - and of course a more riskier option is through the USB port.
Handling wise I've heard of some using a combination of L plate, or cages.
I've found all that too cumbersome for my needs and just carry some extra batteries.
OK now we know the specs but how does it actually perform. You know some real life samples of images. How high can the images be enlarged before degradation. Some crop samples of increasing magnification. Comparisons with larger sensors. Useful stuff to know before spending $1700 and relegating my 7D and lenses to the old toys box.
Kan niet tippen aan de Panasonic FZ 2000 met Leica lenzen met een veel snellere processor .na filmen gelijk verder filmen en geen 4 seconden wachten om de film op te slaan zoals bij de Sony
Been thinking about this for airshows since I got rid of my Nikon d4 and 150-600 tamron. I was using it so little it didn’t make sense holding onto it. Plus having to haul it around was a work out. What do you think about the image quality and the AF on fast moving subjects?
I've never shot professionally at an air show, just as a spectator and back then I brought a 50-500mm Sigma (aka Bigma) so I'm not as serious as you when it comes to these. So take what I say with that in mind.
Image Quality is excellent (obviously).
AF is also super, won't have problems at most air shows. It has the AF system from Sony's a9 ( amzn.to/2Ged8e3 ) which is the best on the mirrorless side of things as far as the processing is concerned.
I think where you may have issue is zooming fast from one range to the other; a limitation of the lens design. It is all electronically controlled, so you are limited by the available speeds; and the fast setting for zoom, is not fast enough. You also can't really zoom, focus, and shoot burst at the same time the way you can with your Nikon combo. So if something is flying really fast right at you and you want to burst capture while keeping a really tight frame (as much as possible), its not going to happen. You'll probably get some good shots, spot on AF, but at the same focal length. If you don't normally zoom as you shoot faster FPS, things will work out just fine.
The 2018th of February? I thought it only had 28 days!
Sounds like a great all-in-one camera for just about everything! By the way, have you used the a9? I have one and wondered if you have used it before, if so what are your views are on the AF capability of the two? Thanks for the review of this camera. Cheers.
I have used the a9 briefly outdoors from a fellow peer photographer in the city, in late afternoon light. The a9 is truly a beast when it comes to AF. I haven't felt this way about a camera since I went from a 10D to a 1D Mark II back in early 2000s. I feel the overall experience of shooting with the a9 is what you'd expect for something that costs at least twice as much (not considering the cost of the lens, which in my case was another $2-3K). So the Rx10IV can't really compare with AF tracking in many scenarios the a9 was designed for (sports, action).
I imagine the a9 is going to be substantially better in less than well lit situations where the RX10IV struggles - and I'm imagining a scenario where you're shooting a local soccer game around dusk that is void of professional lights. But I have not tried both together in that scenario to know just how much better the a9 fares.
So for pro stuff, a9.
I think a big con is that you can't hold focus while zooming with the RX10IV. That pretty much kills it for serious pro work.
Soccer mom stuff, RX10IV is perfectly fine.
You'll get a lot of could have been better shots if you used an a9 and knew how to handle the camera. The Rx10IV will track right up to I'd say 15 minutes past sunset here in Los Angeles in the Summer (it stays pretty bright here).
Mike Mu Thanks for your prompt reply. I have both the a7iii and a9 but didn’t get the chance to give the RX10 IV a go, and wondered if you used the a9. I will probably go to the shop and hopefully borrow the bridge camera for a day. Cheers.
Very nice video! I have been considering this camera for a bit now. I am wanting this to be my all in one. So I don't have to carry My Nikon for photos, and Rx100 for videos. I love this concept, but I am just debating if I should wait for the next model. I would hate to spend the money on this one, and then a few months later the Mk. V comes out. I do most of my work with the RX100 as far as video. I think this would be the best of both worlds, and I could possibly sell all of my Nikon gear!
I have some more thinking to do, if you have any suggestions, or want to chime in on how long you might think it will take for there to be a Mk.V. Please let me know you opinion :D Anyways, like I said, awesome video :D
Hi Corey,
Thanks!
Personally, I think it'll be late 2019 before a 'Mark V' gets released, and who knows how much more that might end up costing. If so, the Mark IV will be sold right along the Mark V. I'd want to see a built-in ND filter, and capability to zoom while shooting at max burst speed, but I probably would not want to pay an extra $200 for those features.
Thank you both for your opinions, this will definitely help out my decision. Although, it is still a heck of a decision lol!
I bought the MK4 in late April 2019 as there is no sign of the Mk V yet
Mike, just purchased the Song A7iii with Sony 35 1.4 lens and am wondering if this isn't a better option. I was trying to get the option for super bokeh that the 1.4 offers, but for maximum shooting flexibility, this may be better. Thoughts? Had the RX10 mark 1 with previous employer and really liked its versatility. I realize this is MUCH better in MANY ways than that was.
Hi Robert,
Of course you are going to blow away the RX10 IV at 35mm equivalent with the full frame sensor and the 1.4 - there is simply no contest. You didn't need to get the A7III to achieve that, but since the a7III is sooo good, why not? I approve of your choice! Its a serious choice Pros will make and choose all day.
But your combination is also $3500!
A7III = $2000 ( amzn.to/2kCnI67 )
Sony 35mm Zeiss Distagon = $1500 ( amzn.to/2J1q7Gl )
I have the cheaper, but comparable Sigma 35mm 1.4 Art lens ( amzn.to/2LLXcUo ). Here is a sample I shot with an APS-C Sony camera: instagram.com/p/BjPdWA5AY3A/?taken-by=mikemuphotography
I love that lens and the bokeh achieved, but I don't casually bring it out with me since its big, heavy, and one focal length only.
Is what you're shooting going to *really* benefit that much more from the full frame and 35mm 1.4? It might at certain distances that are relatively close to you. Objects that are further away (think like a basketball court length) aren't going to get much of any bokeh effect or benefit.
Still if you shoot primarily at 35mm, I'd consider the RX1 RII ( amzn.to/2L9gQsa ). Focus isn't as fast, forget the video, but its the master of resolution at 35mm in a package you can fit in a jacket pocket.
For me, I prefer to carry my Fuji X100F ( amzn.to/2J3311S ) for my 35mm shooting needs as its such a pleasure to shoot with.
-Mike
Mike-Thanks for your prompt and in-depth response. Will check out the details that you've shared. New SUB today as well. Much appreciated!
Do you find that you have to be at the far reach of the focal length to get those results? With the Mark 1 version, I found myself shooting in auto most of the time with good results. Was trying to get more professional results by shooting Aperture Priority with Sony, but other than great bokeh with 1.4 lens, the sharpness doesn't seem quite as good as RX 10. Can you share more experiences with me since I need to make decision today or tomorrow about returning Song A7 iii? Thanks in advance!
is there any limit in the video shooting like nikon coolpix?
29:59 minute limit per clip. I heard there may be a way to bypass that (it’s a software limitation for camera restriction / licensing thing) but I’ve never needed longer.
Is this camera's auto mode that good? I usually shoot in aperture Priority because I have yet to find a good auto mode on a camera
I find the auto (P, not full auto) to be sufficiently good to the point where leaving it there works for me.
I usually shoot aperture or manual with my dslr and mirrorless cameras.
@@MikeMu oh you are talking about P Program mode I was talking about A Auto mode
airgreek In that case I don’t trust any camera’s full auto mode. But of all the Auto modes Sony’s I tend to trust the most. (But I have very little experience with Nikon).
I'd like to see where one can ask a problem question, my brand new (old camera 2016 or so) just out of box, shutter stuttered a lot and somehow, settled to take a picture, focus not that razor-sharp. Now, black screen everytime I turn camera on and message like = Turn Camera off and on. Camera is useless to me now.
Sounds like a stuck lens. May need to send it in for repair. Are you using it in cold climates? Let it warm up a bit.
@@MikeMu Not cold enough for that, was in house environment during all the problems described, arrived that way, right from when opened mail and never worked propelry, tried leaving alone for a week in house, same problem, it is internal and nothing to do with temperature. I bought this new out of mail package and after spending almost 2 grand, it is craP!
@@user-kq9zf7zn4r That's just plain bad luck. I hope you can just return it or get warranty coverage on it.
I want and i need this cam..
Hello Mike ! Are you still using your RX10IV ? It would be great to review this camera after all these years and maybe promote a version V soon !!!!
Sadly my camera was stolen, so I haven't even had the camera for a few years. I honestly was waiting for a Sony RX10 V after that... still waiting...
I can't imagine how the constant comparison with other cameras that many of us have never heard of adds a thing to the review.
Next time maybe Mike should write to you and ask you to provide a list of all the cameras you’ve actually heard of.
of course if its only camera , and no lens change allowed, it has to be this but I hope the next version has the better battery,
The next one should use the fz100. Which would be excellent!
What a great video. Informative and thoughtful. I'm an older woman who has been a hobbyist for many years and have extremely arthritic hands. I sold all of my Canon gear last year and went with Fuji. I have the 35mm, 16mm, 55-200, 60mm and the beastly 50-140mm. I really wanted the 100-400 (I love bird and wildlife photography) but just couldn't justify the weight. I've been going back and forth between the 100-400 and the Sony rx10 IV. You've convinced me. Now, though, I have a question. I love my Fuji colors and sharpness but think I should be able to let a couple of lenses go. I like wildlife, macro, and some portraiture. What would be your thoughts on what to keep and what to let someone else appreciate? Thank so kindly for taking your time if you're able. And anyone else who has thoughts on this I'm open to them!
Hi Cheryl,
Thank you very much!
I also love Fuji, but never made the jump to an all Fuji system and instead got myself a Fuji X100F which I've shot tens of thousands of pictures with. So I love the Fuji style, interface, colors, jpg rendering. But I have just about no experience with the lenses you own, so keep that in mind.
First, if possible, I'd advise you to wait before you sell off any of your Fuji lenses. I say this because you must have given a lot of thought into acquiring them, and they are all fantastic lenses from what I've read. At this point I'm not sure Fuji makes any bad lenses now, though, just good and better lenses - all relatively affordable compared to the competition and value.
After you get the Sony RX10IV you will probably start to figure out which lens(es) you'll keep with you in your pack and use, and which you'd not bring for your next trip out to the wild.
Of course the bright glass is heavy. Maybe you might just end up selling it all after you've used the RX10IV.
The one(s) you end up leaving at home most can go to a happy home.
But based on what you said about loving wildlife, macro and portrait I'd be inclined to keep the 60mm macro because its also a good portrait lens.
I'd also keep the 35mm 1.4 as its truly is one of the best lenses for the system.
And then the 50-140mm 2.8, also an amazing lens with Weather Resistance good outdoors and for portraits. Of course its heavy.
So from the list I'd probably let go of the 55-200mm. Obviously a great lens but you had wanted more reach with the 100-400mm. Its mostly covered by the 50-140mm which is a better lens.
I hope this helps!
-Mike
Thank you so very kindly for your taking the time for such a thoughtful and wise reply. I think I will do just as you have suggested. I look forward to more of your videos!@@MikeMu
awesome review ! do you think it's still worth to get it in 2020 ?
Yes! Still nothing beats it. I think only Sony can out-do themselves with the Sony RX10 V. But if you don't need the range, or video auto-focus speed you can save a lot by going the Panasonic route. Having experienced both, I'd be regretful if I didn't choose this over the Panasonic's line.
@@MikeMu perhaps i will go for 2nd hand RX 10 IV , thanks for recommendation
Thanks.
The #RX10M4 is praised by all reviewers, users/owners including yourself.
There are rumors of a coming #RX10M5.
The #RX10M4 seems to be the king of Bridges, what would you like to see if #Sony really decide to upgrade this swiss army knife of bridge superzoom digital cameras:
* Fully touchscreen for focusing and navigating the menu system?
* The new menu system in the #A7SIII?
* ...
Wondering if #Canon will upgrade the #PowershotG3X and if #Panasonic #Lumix will upgrade the #FZ2000 / #FZ2500 / #FZH1?
megagear case, use the bottom half only
Very good info and vid. You mentioned a no compromise camera. Well, the fact that this does not have a fully articulated screen is unacceptable in this day and age. This is ridiculous. If it had the screen I would agree this camera is the best. I won't be using stone age screen tech for free let alone what this camera costs.
Thanks! I *would* like a self articulating screen. I just hope they don't do the selfie treatment like they did the a6400. But then if they gave you everything, you wouldn't buy the next model. So the search for the perfect camera continues for a lot of us.
How far does it shooting in feet or Meters?
I'm not quite understanding your question. Technically in perfect lab controlled conditions, it'd be infinity but the resolution would get worse the further out you'd want to see.
It will bring objects in view about 12 times closer.
So... if you're looking at the moon with your own eyes which is 384472282 meters away from earth, and instead you jumped on a space rocket and got 32039356 meters away and looked again. That's about how much closer you'd be.
@fukthegoog I'm not sure I could get a good aim on the sparrow handling the camera, but if I could, I feel confident the focus won't be the issue.
Congratulations on not feeling the need to have annoying and unnecessary background music. Is your red soft button shutter release a stick-on or screw-in version. If stick-on, has it ever come off?
Funny. I'm not opposed to background music, just didn't feel a need. I've definitely made the mistake before but I was recording live and couldn't remove it.
The Red soft shutter button is a stick on. No, it has never come off - the screw in ones I *always* lose. I was tired of throwing money down the drain, even if I have a bunch of cheap ones lying around.
Not saying you can't lose it, just that I never have. And I have it on 3 cameras. Also, if it does come off, I find that it sticks to whatever rubbed it off - in one case it was a really tight fitting bag divider.
Just ordered for 1100 bucks, looking forward to testing it out.
Nice! What are you planning on shooting with it?
@@MikeMu I'm a pro landscape photographer that also shoots with the A7RIII and A6500, this will be my backup for occasional wildlife and macro work, or other situations where a heavier setup is not practical. I think the quick focus and wider depth of field is sometimes a strength
I'd be really interested to hear your thoughts on using it as part of your kit, and whether or not you feel its good enough for your more casual work (is that even a thing as a pro landscape photographer? Maybe scouting).
This review is right on the money. I can't think of another single camera I would rather have. Check out the timestamps on the images in the link provided below. I don't know of any camera (not named RX10) that could have captured this sequence.
photos.app.goo.gl/br65KDZ6KrcZgUmt8
When can we expect to see the Sony RX10V?
I think it is about time. But probably not until they update the RX100 series too. If they announce a new 1” sensor then maybe. But sales have been falling for these premium 1” models.
@@MikeMu I suspect that Sony won't launch a new version of the RX10 until one of the other manufacturers puts out a super-zoom that pushes it firmly off its perch as the most versatile camera in this group. The price, at least here in the UK, is significantly down from its launch price (£1300 compared to £1800) but has fluctuated quite a bit with supply being patchy.
@@ColinMill1 Yes. And also it looks as though Sony is not collaborating much with Zeiss anymore - so a new lens may need to be developed too. They seem to be focusing on vlogging stuff for some reason and that is definitely one thing this is not going to be great at.
Leave the lens off. Its angle of shade is minimal so virtually useless and makes the camera obtrusive. Fit Hoya HD nano UV to protect the front element.
Zoom is super fast? No way!
I liked the video 👍
Great voice -- you can earn 100 times more money being a sportscaster
Wow, thanks. The thing with my voice is I don't have the vocal cords to talk endlessly.
@@MikeMu
If you notice, sportscasters, radio talkshow, and television talkshow personalities have a glass of water next to them to alleviate that dry throught.
David Letterman uses a cup of Whiskey -- that's why when you see him take a sip you hear him going Ahhhhhhhh !
I will try that the next time I have a long session. :)
Rx10 iv or rx100 v or x100f as first camera?
RX10IV. Unless you want to own all three like me and leave 2 home when you have to choose ONE camera for a trip that can do it all.
But i went RX100, then RX1, X100F, then RX10 (this one).
Mike Mu so fixed lens is not big deal as first camera? And they say Sony camera has no soul, x100f is fun and should be the one,true?
Tough to say as I started out in the 90s with a prime lens, and film camera to learn photography and kept with the single focal length for years.
The RX10 IV is definitely more technology driven, but it has an aperture control ring, and EV comp dial which I use a lot of even on my X100F ( amzn.to/2EcZADw ).
Say with my a6500 ( amzn.to/2C62zrl ), I'd never have brought such a long focal length lens. And if I did, I'd have to change lenses.
With the X100F, I'm stuck at a very nice 35mm FOV equivalent. Unless I add on the wide ( amzn.to/2BjPKNd ) and the tele ( amzn.to/2C62q7h ) But then, no 4k video. But this almost forces you to be more creative to get better shots, so you may end up being a better photographer as a result and the X100F is significantly smaller and lighter than the RX10 IV, but also not weather sealed.
So as much fun the X100F is to use day-to-day, the RX10IV is still the ONE I'd choose if I had to choose one. I will get shots none of my other cameras can take in the least amount of time. This is especially true if I'm traveling on a once-in-a-lifetime trip - Get the RX10IV.
Mike Mu if so then if Panasonic release LX200 this month, should I pick that one or X100F?
Personally, I'd go with the X100F.
Here we go again, 30 something ounces, how much is that in metric weight, something everybody around the world (apart from the USA) understands?
According to Sony, the RX10IV weighs: 2.41 lb / 1095 g (including sd card). I will try and have a more international approach to the specs in the future.
@@MikeMu No problem, I think adding a caption with worldwide (metrics) data will do the trick. I really appreciated your review, and with some minor adjustments many people all over the world will as well, I'm sure. Thank you for posting it!
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2024 gang
Your incessant commercials are out of hand so I lost interest in filling your wallet
Hey, I hope you still got something out of it.