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- Explaining why the Falcons drafted Michael Penix Jr. đ§ | Domonique Foxworth Show
The Domonique Foxworth Show discusses some storylines in the aftermath of the 2024 NFL Draft.
0:00 Welcome back to the Domonique Foxworth Show
3:04 What do you make of the Falcons drafting Michael Penix Jr?
33:01 Are teams changing how they approach drafting QBs?
43:21 Which team had the best draft?
44:46 Which team had the worst draft?
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Come on!! Flash forward 2 years and you guys would be harping on "The Falcons KNEW they had a 36 year old QB with a bad achilles! They knew he would be injury prone. HOW did they not make a succession plan?"
This! That's why I say đ the media on this issue because you can see the hypocrisy by the criticism the falcons have recieved for something past Sucessful Organizations have done to remain competitive by having a Vet mentor a young successor at the QB position!
Falcons management were stunned Penix Jr was still available at #8! They just played the Draft Board and couldn't let the pick slip down, he's NFL ready right now, and other teams with Top 10 picks were definitely going to pick Penix, if falcons didn't per sports team insiders. Penix Jr, will back-up Kirk Cousins with Honor in case Captain Kirk tweaks the injury by unseen circumstances. Rise Up
If they were stunned, they were the only ones lol
Sadly inept front office
â@@levisingleton4921 Falcons had four teams looking to trade up to get Penix haha. 6 QBs were selected in the top 12. They definitely were not the only ones.
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Penix was a smart signing for sure, once everybody calms down and processes this, pretty sure most people will be on board. The problem is, a lot of negativity is is thrown due to not looking at our situation the last seven years. MR2 was not exactly his best and Mariota/Ridder. We don't want that, a quality qb is hard to get, we got two...allegedly. we can find all other positions.
There is logic if you look at it from an Atlanta Falcons point of view. Kirk isn't exactly expensive per year$45mil) and and rookie qb's need to learn and get into NFL speed. Not every good qb busts into the league like CJ Stroud, I want Penix to study under Cousins and we can call it good in a couple of years.
Drake london, bijan, allgeier, nate landman, clark phillips, bergeron, hellams all solid picks by Terry
To say London wasnât a good pick and to call out Pitts on his injury season and ridder season are two terrible takes
A 35(6) quarterback signing IS a Stop Gap move! Period!
They really expect Kirk to play for us when he's 39/40. The contract was front loaded for a reason.
IDK why everyone is so confused by this. When 90% of your guaranteed money is in the first 2 years of your deal, the signs are clear that you just signed a 2 year deal essentially. Add in his age and recovering from injury and it'd be wild for them not to insure that investment. Not only did they get insurance for those first two years but they now have someone who can take over for Kirk in the future without having to spend multiple picks in a trade up or shell out another 9 figure deal to get a FA QB
Kirk was the best available Free Agent at any position. Just so happened to be QB. ATL wants to win. QB play has been horrible since 2016. Get the best QB available now and the get a stud, NFL ready QB to back him up. This isnât rocket science. Penix had 3 teams trying to move up tot get him. Only time will tell, but man, as a life long Falcons fan, we need a good QB room.
@@positivepatrick2009 Exactly! We went from Mariota/Ridder to Kirk/Penix and idk how any Falcons fan can be mad at that, especially since QB was the single biggest reason they couldn't make the playoffs the past 2 years in a weak division. There's a chance our BACKUP can be the best QB in the division.
Signing said QB to a 4 year old/ $180M is not a stop gave move. Especially with how cheap Russell Wilson and Justin Fields went for. Yall will defend EVERYTHING
We also have to think about what happened last year. So many QB injuries. How many starters went down. Pennix is going to be really good
When a potential franchise QB falls in your lap, you don't let a 36 yr old Kirk cousins stop you from drafting him. C'mon Falcons fans this was a great move. R(W)ISE UP!!!
THEY SPENT $100 MILLION DOLLARS IN GUARANTEED MONEY ON A QUARTERBACK, JUST A FEW WEEKS BEFORE. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
@@PGO_GamingSo what! The owner is a billionaire, and Falcons quarterback play was a**. Open your brain
@@deelawton4 All of the NFL owners are
Billionaires. Every team has to operate within the salary cap. Don't you understand this? When you draft a rookie QB when you have a guy on top tier QB money, you lose the benefit of the rookie deal. Logic 101.
@@PGO_Gaming Who cares what you say, we have our quarterback of the future, youâre just a random douche on CZcams
@@deelawton4they donât get it.
how is Penix a reach? ppl get so caught up in mock drafts.
Itâs a $180M reach by drafting to the same position in Round 1 that was just solidified a couple months earlier
@@jaymac7349only thing Solidified is losing big games with Cousins as your starter. Penix actually gives you a chance to win a Super Bowl or bowls.
@@robesonrogers2722 Not a Cousins fan at all. And I agree that Penix has better upside as a starting QB. And if ATL believes that too, than they shouldâve just taken Penix at No. 8 overall. And not paid max contract value to a 36yo QB with 1 more playoff victory than the QB they planned to draft. Itâs just bad decision making.
@@jaymac7349 a Super Bowl is worth more than the 100 million. They make billions upon billions. Every high value team (Cowboys, Pats, GB, SF, Pitt etc.) at one point in time increased its value tremendously because they won super bowls with an elite guy.
Best Available is a thing. Picking a player just so another team canât is also a thing. I believe the falcons achieved both with this pick. Simple. Also reminds me of the Jets in 2017 when they passed up Pat Mahomes and went with position needs on defense because they just signed veteran Josh McCown. Do u think the Jets wouldnât go back in time to 2017 and redo that draft? Iâd rather take a chance on what my scouts think is on a generational talent than take a position need player that I donât really like
Ohhh yeah! I forgot about that draft. Excellent point. I love the forward thinking the Atlanta front office and coaching staff has. Atlanta going to do big things.
people getting upset bc they were wrong and shocked by the decision. lol. we see First round DL busts every year. draft the guys you want not who ppl say you need. simple
As a falcons fan I was mad but when I think about itâŠit make sense what if Kirko get hurt pennix fit right it
18:21 obviously they didnt know theyd be here dom is 100% right
This guy should listen to Dominique more. Terry Fontenont literally built a Falcons team that is ready to win the division-As a GM, he has shown that he knows what he is doing. Falcons have literally been a QB away for the past 4-5 seasons. They now have two.
The Penix pick was smart. They were 7-10. Kurt has to be worth 2 more wins than Ridder and Morris is worth 2 more wins than Smith. You replaced the worst parts of your tean with people who will actually use the weapons they have. 11-6 is more than enough to win what will be another weak NFC South year where whoever won it last falls off the map again. Penix will have time to develop his body and his game as long as Kurt stays healthy and if Kurt can't stay healthy they'll still have a fighting shot at having the best QB in the division. If they need more pieces this year they should pick them up via trade or waiver wire.
Such weird logic. You spent $100M on a QB and immediately, you wonât be able to maintain the same quality of defense. The falcons are not likely to win 11 games next year, and they are certainly not more likely to do so by drafting Penix at 8 đ Plus, they locked up Cousins for at least two seasons
@@jamalstrickland12 seasons is not a long time. Love just started his first season at 25 and the packers are geniuses but if penix is 26 the falcons are idiots?
@@Robertb48 Love was sitting behind Aaron Rodgers, and he was 21 when he was drafted. Penix is turning 24 this week. And, two full seasons would be the longest that any top 15 pick has waited to see the field in the history of the league FYI. The avg nfl career is only 3-4 seasons
@@jamalstrickland1 Stop trying to explain logic to these guys. If you play fantasy football, this is akin to a fantasy owner picking two QBs within the first four picks. It's outrageous. Every way you slice it, the Falcons wasted resources and they are still trying to justify it. lol
@@jamalstrickland1 One DE is not going make a difference for the Falcons. MP was the 4th best rated player, second best rated QB on the Falcons board and he has the best arm of all the QBs drafted. This is very well documented. MP will be starting next season because he will be better than KC. He can easily throw the ball 60 yards and hit a target the size of a quarter. $100M is nothing for today's QB and when you have the opportunity to draft a franchise QB when you don't have one and do it without giving future #1 picks, you jump on it. OP is pretty much spot on. KC brings 2, 3 more wins during season but he cannot carry a team, especially in the playoffs. Back to the defense. The falcons drafted potentially 3 superstars in rounds 2-4. Watch their tape and MP's tape while at it. BTW, KC will only be with the Falcons for 2 years at most, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him get traded next year and they take the hit. You have to play the QB that provides the best chance to win and that will be MP.
*BREAKING NEWS:*
1. Cousin Kirk, a Quarterback who pretends to work on Mondays, and doesnt work on Tuesdays and his silly fans, are upset that Michael Penix Jr. (the most talented college Quarterback since Trevor Lawrence, Caleb Williams & Deshaun Watson), a Quarterback who works from Sunday till Sunday got drafted. đ đ€Łđ
2. Jeebus Forking Cripes... the Michael Penix Jr. whinging is getting on my nerves.
The mistake wasnt drafting Michael Penix. The mistake was signing Kirk Cousins for $100M. Dude has earned more than Tom Brady, but only has 1 playoff win.
3. People are pretending as if Falcons drafting Laiatu Latu or Dallas Turner would have been the piece for Kirk Cousins to take the Falcons to the Superbowl. Kirk Cousins could have JJ Watt and Nick Bosa and he still wouldnt go to the Superbowl.
4. 14 starting QBs got injured in 2023. Therefore you might as well take a very good QB in the 1st round and a good Defensive End in the 2nd round and thats exactly what Atlanta did.
1. Thereâs no guarantee the Penix will ever be as good as Cousins was in Minnesota. I think so and hope so, but itâs not a guarantee. He has a long injury history and some defects in his throwing motion.
2. Drafting Penix is only a mistake BECAUSE theyâre committed to Cousins for AT LEAST half of Penixâs rookie deal. If Penix is as good as we expect, they just wasted two years to take advantage of his cheap window to compete big. If you have a ready-made prospect like Penix with 6 fkn years of experience, then you donât need to sit him
3. I think youâre underrating Kirk. Heâs inarguably a top 3 QB in the NFC, and they play in the weakest division. You build a strong defense, and who besides the 49ers should they be afraid to take.
4. This is your most ridiculous take. You donât plan for your newly acquired $100M QB to get injured LOL. And even if you did, the 8th overall pick is not where you draft a 2 year backup đ
@@jamalstrickland1 What makes you think Cousins was good at Minnesota? He was completely rubbish. Cousin Kirk got paid the same amount as Tom Brady, but Cousins only had 1 playoff win in 12 years. *THATS AWWWWWWWFULL!!!!*
@@herrguru4264 I hate that youâre making me defend Cousins đ But playoff wins can be a misleading stat. He played good enough to win multiple playoff games lol. Also, heâs obv not Brady, but heâs OBJECTIVELY been a top 10 QB the last four seasons off numbers and eye test.
Thank you Domonique for pointing out a BIG reason people should have more faith in Penixâs ability. He made IUâŠ.yesâŠ.INDIANA UNIVERSITYâŠ.a Top 10 FOOTBALL team in the NCAA. Clearly Iâm biased but that bias makes me understand EVEN MORE how impressive that is! HOOSIERS BABY!!
Knowing a city like ATL. Iâm sure when Mr Blank heard the story of bro freestyling before the Oregon Comeback he knew he needed him in the city. A black qb wearing a durag?? Bro heâs meant to play for ATL LMAO
Lefty like Vick too đ
Tru!!
Dude argument doesn't make any sense because teams was literally trying to trade with the falcons to draft Penix at #8.
4 teams to be exact
Dude with the milky knees is a clown. Dude on the left makes sense. I assure you Font is not an idiot. Font just extended our Super Bowl window from 3 years to 15 years and Milky Knees wants to clown cause we paid Cousins a lot of $$$. Thatâs the cost of not planning ahead for a Matt Ryan replacement. If we use Milky Knees logic weâd be back in the same situation when Cousins hangs it up. We just avoided QB purgatory and pundits canât see the forest for the trees. đ€ŠđŸ
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I donât think ppl hate the Penix pick as much as they just hate signing Cousins to a $100M at 36, THEN drafting Penix.
I think ppl put far too much stock into having a QB sit. If Penix is the guy, only game experience will get him where he really needs to be. Then, theyâre talking about having him sit for 4/5 years đ
Terry has drafted high end talent. ppl see the talent. they just fired Arthur smith who had one of the most vanilla playbooks and worst QBs in the league.
Dominque makes good points. The other guy makes this hard to watch.
Falcons going to playoffs so everyone just relax. We got 6 years of qb under contract rise up
Terry Fontino made dried leaves taste like steak in the past 3 seasons, with the falcons.
my only thing is your analysis of his first round draft history is not fair. Kyle Pitts had an amazing rookie season and who was throwing the ball, Matt Ryan. Since Matt left we havenât had good QB play so if your QB sucks then of course these guys arenât going to ball out. Now if Kirk is healthy and plays like he normally does and Pitts, London and Bijan struggle then thats a different scenario because you have a good QB but otherwise itâs not a fair assessment
How do people not look at this situation like how they looked at Green Bay for the last 2 qbs they picked high even tho they had a HOF at qb already. First with drafting Rodgers when they had Bret and of course drafting love when they had Rodgers. Itâs the same situation. Love was drafted with the 10th pick if my memory is correct. Everyone wants to win now but you have to look at reality. ATL even adding cousins isnât a contender at all. They have talent and they can at least make the playoffs in that division but I love this pick for the future. Cousins can get hurt he has a history of it.
The problem is cousin nowhere close to favre or rodger.his record was awful.
Cousins is no where near a HOF QB, thatâs where the issue lies. With GB, the idea is Rodgers learns from Favre and then becomes the type of player Favre was and then some. Love learns from Rodgers and then becomes the type of player he was, etc. Penix learning from Cousins is funny because nobody wants their future franchise qb to turn out like Kirk Cousinsđ. At the end of the day they shouldnât have signed Kirk if they was taking Penix.
Because they just didn't pay a new quarterback a hundred million
they didnât like the Jordan Love pick, the Mahomes pick , or the Lamar Jackson pick. no one cares win the team is winning. the masses really donât like atlanta but look at how much they talking bout us now
@@swayythegoat7483heâs one of the most consistent QBs in the league. youâre foolish
Another thing, the Rams made it to the playoffs with a depleted defense with rookies, no Stafford. Do you guys really think Morris is doing what you assume? He ain't, he wants to win now and down the road. We're good with Cousins and we'll be good with Penix.
On draft day EVERYBODY knew Penix would be available at 8.
Back when they signed Kirk, EVERYONE assumed he would be there round 2 lol
Everything is incorrect. He was not going past 12
The Fact he didn't go at least 3rd on mock boards blown my mind the entire offseason
Not true, players like that always get more steam during the draft, he wasnât making it past 13 to the raiders. Also if the falcons donât get Kirk and teams know they want to draft penix then maybe teams offer a boatload of picks to the titans at 7 to move in front of Atlanta
it's wild how somehow making 2 good decisions is a bad decision.
Bijan Robinson will be in his prime for another 6 years or so. They knew they needed a young qb to pair with him but they didn't have time to wait for the qb to develop. Kirk will hand the team off to penix. Perfect plan.
They addressed the line in the next rounds. They KNOW just adding Cousins wouldnt make them instant Super Bowl contenders but will build the winning culture that CAN lead to a super bowl with or without Kirk.
New management is playing chess not checkers.
Why arenât we making a bigger story out of Carolina trading away no.9, and the no. 1 overall pick for a qb who clearly wasnât ready to play? Or SF trading away 3 firsts for a chance at a franchise qb (which btw bombed, since Lance is no longer even on their team)? In terms of value, a single no. 8 pick is nothing compared to what most other teams invest in the qb position. Keep that same energy with every organization is all Iâm saying
I love your comment. True indeed, they wanted Penix to go to the raiders. Or Seahawks late in the 2nd round. They hate that Atlanta picked him 8th overall.
Turned it off when he said Drake London hasnât had a good career lol
Cousins was always a stop gap qb for the Falcons or anyone else who would've signed him.
Mariota/Ridder QB room vs Cousins/Penix QB room? Not even close. Now we can build a team around the QB and actually win games that were lost by bad QB play.
Bingo! Iâve heard all the bad scenarios and those arenât bad problems to have at all. Rise up
Which QB are you building around? Cousins is looking over his shoulder at Penix. Penix wants to play now. Which one are you focusing on? THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
drafted best TE in draft
drafted one of the top4 WRs
drafted best RB in Draft
drafted QB of Future.
great job Terry. everyone acts like they know nothing about insurance. this white guy saying penix wasnât gonna go in top10 shows that these regulars say anything. iâm glad Fox schooled him.
People don't understand
Best TE ?
They didn't draft Brock Bowers...
â@@drbenway4 He is referring to Kyle Pitts
@drbenway4 the draft he was in
@@drbenway4 this comment refers to his 4 yr tenureold plz donât bother to waste my time if you canât read into context clues
I donât mind that they signed Kirk Cousins because you get a lot for 100milly. We get a veteran in the huddle to lead the young players and he knows enough about the offense to be able to teach the young players and groom Penix. Iâm good with Kirk and it will be a success if he leaves the team better than he found them. He can teach Penix how to be a pro while we win games. Most people liken this to the Green Bay situation, but to me itâs more like Patrick Mahomes and Alex Smith. Kurt can win but the brass thinks Penix is next level talent.
The only reason theyâre criticizing Fontâs picks is because they didnât have a qb to unlock them. Problem solved!
Obviously they signed Cousins so nobody would trade up to pick Penix before Atlanta. đ
They still tried a lot of teams including the raiders.
Have the same energy when Atlanta do great this season and the future
Cynthia Frelund said it better than anybody else: If Minnesota had resigned Cousins to the same deal he got from Atlanta and then drafted Penix, everybody would understand it. They might even be celebrated for securing the position. But Atlanta did the same thing, using the same logic, and it was almost universally panned. Seeing it from that perspective makes it clear that it's all much ado about making ado.
Drafts are the front end of a shiny new thing. Fans don't look at what the pick has achieved down the road. To see how bad the Falcons picks have been over the years, a deeper analysis of the contributions the picks made over the course of their career. Tak McKinley spent 6 seasons in the NFL (4 with ATL) but only started 27 games as a 1st round pick in 2017. I think a moderate dive into Fontenot's draft picks will provide clarity. For example, 2021 3rd round pick Jalen Mayfield, who started 16 games as a rookie, is out of the league due to an injury. On the other hand, 4th-round pick CB Darren Hall started 10 games over 2 seasons. He was waived in training camp leading into the 2023 season and failed to make another ball club.
Rise Up Dirty Birds!!!
Falcons actually have implied odds of 4% for the Super Bowl. Kirk Cousins was already mid-to-good, BEFORE his injury. If he comes out and stinks it up, theyâd be banking on next year having someone as talented as Penix (remember 2022).
The more I think about, the more I continue to love the pick
Exchange starting at 19:50 đ„ âthey can all be buffoons. Thereâs not a limit on buffoons. I donât cap my buffoon finger pointing.â
I don't understand how anybody can have a strong opinion on something that has NEVER HAPPENED before!!! So where is the negative proof đ€ for all this HATE đ #Calmdown #Stay #Neutral
We got our QB in penix.. 50 mill is starter pay for QB and Kirk will pass the torch next year or this year .. rise up đŠ 19:09
How many QB's are making 50 million dollars in the league? I'll wait.
@@PGO_Gaming 6 or 7 and he is the latest to get 50 and he is less than thr 6 before him. This years it will be more and the next great QB will be close to 60.did you have to wait a long time đ o yea the numbers are fake. He gets he gets like 65 with signing bonus this year and 25 next year and 5 that next year. My team is moving on and I hope you do too. Rise up
Falcons are showing the league they aren't near-sighted and who was in their QB room prior to the draft? Cousins anddd......
Raylor Heinecke
35 yr old qb coming off a major injury and people wonder why they drafted a capable QB???
Nobody is questioning Penix as a QB. The issue is what they did 6 weeks ago and then turning around and picking him. No matter which way you twist it, each scenario leaves you scratching your head.
@@chnaceecousins is expensive but he made you favorites in the division and heâs cheap to cut year 3.
This was a rational, informed objective discussion. Mostly. Thank you.
I think where Fontenot failed was paying $180 million for a 36 year old with an Achilles injury in the first place. I would have traded for Minshew or someone like him - then drafted Penix. Then you have plenty of cap to trade for FAâs on defense.
But, the Falcons want to win now and in the future and the whole management team has been shell-shocked at QB in the past. At least three other teams wanted to trade up to take Penix, but ATL said no. Penix was the highest impact player on the board at 8. They took him according to Fontenotâs strategy - impact over need, if available.
They may have put a screw in the locker room chemistry. But, maybe the players can work it out. Only time will tell.
Minshew doesnât make you the favorite in the division. Cousins did. Of course the falcons could have gotten way worse qb play for lower money.
I support the pick but I think this is the best response from the view of someone who doesnât. I completely understand your reasoning.
Difference is if teams know Atlanta wants penix at 8 maybe teams like the raiders or Seattle try to trade in front of them. Also the going rate for a top 12 qb in todayâs market is 50 mil a year. Thatâs what Kirk is getting for 2 years, if they donât offer it to him then someone else will. And they probably fell in love with penix after meeting with him and that was after they signed cousins
@@johnnycash8567 Totally agree.
Nobody paid 180mil. SMH just say you don't understand NFL contracts
Stop saying trade the pick unless you are certain they had a valid trade offer that fits what they wanted.
The fact that this random guy who has clearly never played in the NFL or have any behind the scenes knowledge is challenging Dominique on whether they knew that Penix would be there at 8 is the height of hubris.
The only team that was going to pick Penix at 8 was THEM. Teams were trying to trade into their position to take him. It doesn't matter if they knew or not. Penix was not supposed to go there. You don't sign a QB for 100 million guaranteed and then draft another QB. It's ridiculous.
Saints, Seahawks, and Raiders all tried to trade up into the top 10 to get him, he wouldn't have fell much further
I still cant overcome comping JJ McCarthy to AJ McCarron or Ken Dorsey. Accurate championship QB but i dont see the 'intangible' or 'it factor'
Anquan Boldin ran a 4.6 as well. Keon Coleman is fast with the ball in his hand go watch the tape
Because with the pick they IN the playoffs đŻ
Going from 4 to 6 percent is increasing your odds by 50%. Even 4 to 5 is a 25% increase. But yeah, no player was going to increase it my that much, it would be fractions of percent.
No one thing penix going 8 is crazy. Itâs the falcons picking him at 8 after signing Kirk to 4/180 with 100 guaranteed that is crazy
Penix the falcons savior
Atlanta fans defending this move. You either roll with the most expensive best available QB on the free agent market and draft the best defensive player OR you draft the QB at #8 and you spend the money on multiple free agents.
Cousins is playing 3 years at a minimum barring injury. If he doesn't then Atlanta will be stuck with a $35 million DEAD CAP hit in year 3 (2026), AND a $12.5 million DEAD CAP hit in year 4 (2027)
Freaking dummies
Bo Nix went 12 but Penix at 8 is a reach đđ
Falcons will win games with Kurt they will not be in top 8 position for several years
Great pick
Penix will wonder if he is back at Indiana if Cousins is sat down because of injury or poor play. Desmond Ridder was sacked over 30 times despite not starting the full season. Off top, Jake Matthews was never going to be confused with a HOF LT despite the number of zeroes on his paycheck. His play has declined over the years and the dirty birds have no one waiting in the wings to replace him. They may be back in the market for a QB by November.
4 teams wanted to trade with the Falcons to draft Penix. . .
Dominque sounds absolutely illogical in this argument đ€Łeveryone knew penix would be there. Second who should the raiders have taken?? They covered the line later on and Iâd say the secondary is shored up. Now we need a QB but everyone was gone by the time the 13th pick rolled around and idk if trading up for anybody but Williams or Daniels was worth it
Kyle Pitts will be working with his 6th qb by the time Penix is the starter. He was working with a washed Matt Ryan, Mariota, Ridder, Heinicke and now Cousins. Falcons have always had a qb problem. Same with Drake London minus the Matt Ryan part since he was traded to the Colts before they drafted London. The receivers have been working with terrible QBs so no we havenât seen their full potential.
Ydkb iam afraid to say drake a bad pick but not look at his coach and QB
No matter how you slice it. Wrong move. Shouldâve traded the pick and got more team needs to win now. Couldâve even resigned MR as a backupâŠâŠ
Atlanta is going to bank on Penix being a good QB in 3-4 yrs from now with little to now NFL game experience?
No one needs anyone to explain why a team made a pick. The Falcons GM already explained it & no one is gonna convince me, a 35 year Falcons Fan that using a 1st Round Pick on a QB & Signing a proven starter to a huge contract in the same offseason is a good move. Now the funny thing here is all the people claiming it's a brilliant pick have 5-6 Years to make such a claim because we won't even know if Penix is a hit at QB in the NFL until 5-6 years from now. So it's real convenient to get your high horse now when the verdict is so far off. It would be better to just not even talk about Penix because he wont even be playing unless Terry Fontenots other move to get Cousins turns bad & if that happens then that's another strike against the leadership. People talking like you can package Penix up for 3-4 years & keep him from aging & roll him out at 24 & act like you just drafted him are delusional. In the NFL just like in Life you only have so much Capital & you have to use it wisely & this was a terrible allocation of Capital by the Falcons. Falcons would have been better off drafting a NEED to WIN NOW.
The falcons want to have it both ways but they arenât good enoughâŠthey married Kurt but went out to the club flirting, not wearing their wedding ring and telling others Iâm not married but my wife is.
Alright, Joel Klatt lol
We were one game out of being in Tampas playoff spot last year with a QB who has more fumbles than TDs
How you gon crap on the falcons weapons when they had Smith at coach and Desmond Ridder who threw more Picks then TDs as your quarterback. How you gon grade the weapons? kyle broke the falcons record for a TE his first year with Matt Ryan who was older what you think he gon do with a good kirk cousins and a guy who could probably develop to be that guy. If I'm a falcons fan I would be happy they should have in theory consistent Quarterback play for the next 10 years at least.
The Falcons have the best qb room and roster in the South period. They just have to go win it. That's the whole point of the off-season
Terry Fontenot won't even be the GM anymore by the time Penix even hits the field. Lol
Itâs the Rodgers-Love situation all over again
No itâs not Kirk cousins got ONE playoff win in his career I donât know why yall got so much faith in himđ
â@@WizWiz-qk3bcwe don't have that much faith in Kirk, that's why we drafted Penix.
@@unNORMALized420 so why pay him 150M n u couldâve signed defensive players in free agency or got a better QB at a cheaper price n still got ur rookie QBđ
@@WizWiz-qk3bc because Mariota, Ridder, and Heineke were our last 3 QBs lol. So of course we overpaid for the best FA QB on the market it was the going rate. Then the draft rolls around and a QB we really like who is looked at as borderline generational (in a lot of people's eyes). Our biggest hole on this roster last year was the QB hands down. Well that QB room looks 100% better. We're not trying to win draft boards, we're trying to win games. This pick makes a lot of sense and I can't believe Falcons fans are hating on it.
@@unNORMALized420 Bro Iâm picking Heineke over cousins any day of the week..Justin fields was still on market when yall gave Kirk that money but not only that u got Kirk coming off a Achilles injury and u draft a QB who had 2 Achilles injuries in college your Qb room just got worseđ
31:24 he just said the Cowboys have shown consistent successđ
We hate it now but weâll love it later
Blk GM, Blk HC, draft blk QB to replace Wht QB. That's what this is all about.
I donât understand why people question this pick. Kurt Cousins? đ Kurt Cousins? Off an injury Kurt Cousins? đ So what they gave him $100 Million. They paid him for all he has done for the NFL and , and the Falcons can write that $180 Million off. Kurt Cousins? đ How many Super Bowls have Kurt Cousins won? đ This was the best pick in the draft! Every team needs a good backup quarterback! Why people question this pick makes no sense. We will see in two seasons if it was a good or bad pick. See yâall in 2026
The fact you said see y'all in 2026 tells you all you need to know about how bad this pick was considering their plan is to pay Kurt cousins the same amount as Patrick Mahomesđđđđ
Only Siths deal in absolutes
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This green bay pt 2
All these people are going to look really foolish for doubting that pick. The falcons are going to complete the next couple years and Penix is gonna take over afterwards.
Because cousins just started the $100 million contract. Not last yr of it. It's like guy gets married and next week at lunch he introduced you to his new Girlfriend đź. You can't help to blurt out ..what!?!
@@bryanttisdale2446not a marriage. more like dating mf
3 yrs 2024 qb draft class is a bust. penix is 26 or 27 and kirk moved on and atl is picking another qb.
Ok letâs not get stupid. It was no guarantee Penix would fall to 8. Be real with yoself some people just haters and canât help it
white dude must not have seen Kyle pitts and Bijan reaction to Penix being drafted ? lol
Falcons basically punted on even trying to win a Super Bowl in 2024. Atlanta doesn;'t make the playoffs then Fontenote will need to be fired.
Brock bowers is going to be the best tight end in the league
Not when old guy like kelce,kittle still there new one like laporta and Kincaid also good last season
Not with Minshew and Aidan O'Connell
This guy in the blue shirt said falcons reached for Penix that he didnât FALL to them lol
Anybody can speak sports these days
They should trade Domonique Foxworth
This is the dumbest perspective I have heard. 1 defensive player does not automatically improve your chances of getting to the Super Bowl, much less winning. Over a top 3 QB. That absurd. Having a contingency for an aging QB and solidifying the QB position for the foreseeable future is a smart move. Whoever canât understand that is just lost. All these podcast and media people are mad because itâs the Falcons who drafted this man.
Yal must not watch Falcon football.. Drake London is a dawg..
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Your partner need to start doing some research bro got that laptop for a reason, how did pitts have half a good season??? Most REC yds by a rookie TE in nfl history
How has London not panned out??? QB has been mariota, ridder, and Heineke and still averaging around 1,000 yds for those 2 seasons. Stop just saying what you see in articles n know football. This was a clown take in general stop riding the media wave
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They should trade Michael to Seattle for some picks
Man him being in Seattle would be crazy!!!
Seattle, The Raiders & Saints tried to move up to get em but giants not taking a qb gave Atlanta the room to do it!
There's no explanation for stupidity and that's all it is. Penix is a good player, but this whole situation is completely trash and illogical. There's no explanation that works, zilch just stop trying
The Falcons can have 6 QB's and they still won't make the playoffs. Bucs and Saints are both better and in the same division.
Lies
Buc & saints?Uh-huh sure đ
you just saying things to get replies đ
If they are so better why did Desmond Ridder beat them and at the week 16 tie with them?
No they arenât. I would rather have penix and Kirk than any of the other qbâs in that division.
Pitts and London with competent QB play is going to give you better results. Pitts had a great season with MR2 under center. It's hard to evaluate these pieces when your delivery system in Desmond Ridder. I love the pick. Kirk was never going to win you a super bowl, anyone who thinks we should go all in on trying to make that happen either forgot who Kirk is or is just lying to themselves.
This guy is stuck on things other than talent or proven logic . His logic is based on computer searches and the history of the white quarterback and the NFL . Things and time are proving the false belief that quarterback position is made for white boys only ! Doug Williams , changed that , because young boys that wanted to play quarterback . Could finally believe . Some still and always will believe that a white boy can win in the NFL. Eventhough they see all of the white boys that has been drafted over the last 6 or 7 years are still carrying a clipboard on gamedays . While guys like Lamar , C j stroud , Patrick Mc Holmes and on and on ! Are tearing up the league. If all things were equal , there would be more . I've watched a lot of these podcasts and a lot of these so-called experts . What bothers me the most is the effort being used to steal Michael's shine by constantly inserting kirk cousins and his 100 million dollars. Into every conversation about Penix When there's not a single one of them that's upset with a white guy being given a 100 mil ! People are upset that a white boy didn't get drafted 8th and would make more than Penix . Especially since three black quarterbacks were drafted ahead or Nix and Mcarthy .
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