BLAME ON GOBERT? 🤔 Nikola Jokic was on FIRE but can we get SOMETHING!? - Stephen A. | First Take
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- Stephen A. Smith and Tim Legler join First Take to discuss what more 4x Defensive Player of the Year, Rudy Gobert, could have done against 3x NBA MVP, Nikola Jokic, and the Denver Nuggets in Game 5 of the Western Conference Semifinals.
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Gobert has become an easy scapegoat for everything since 2020.
He’s not a Scapegoat he’s literally out there getting picked on
@@beski3283 I bet AD would stop him
@@apex8373 Did you not see the last 2 times that the Lakers & Nuggets matched up in the playoffs ?? Jokic was doing AD just as dirty if not dirtier, AD was just able to match him in offensive production unlike Rudy
Bro he a 4 TIME DPOY!! They might as well have just giving to wemby
@@apex8373dude what? He just killed them in the playoffs. AD was not able to stop him. Have u been under a rock?
The blame goes to the Joker for being that great simple.
Ya not 4 time “ DPOY” who gets literally picked out in match ups and can’t guard anyone with an outside game. They won game 2 without him lol
Gobert got played off the floor in Utah to before jokic even won a mvp people were calling gobert a trash dpoy
Yeah, DPOY doesn't always mean "the best defender in ISO". Ppl are crying about what they don't understand. @@dahc0023
Rudy DPOY needs to go in the trash
@@dahc0023 Yeah put AD on him he will probably stop him.
NO ONE is stopping Jokic.
I feel like he doesn’t make 80% of his shots vs wemby
@@BossQuisWemby was getting consistent stops against Jokic
@@BossQuis Jokic averaged 34/10/8 on 61% this year vs San Antonio
@@beski3283Wemby couldn't stop my 90 year old Grandma,and Wenby shoudnt even be mentioned,the Spurs were terrible,the worst team in the league
Dwight Howard surely did 👀
No disrespect but if KD dropped 40 on Gobert. Stephen A wouldn’t even be talking like this.
That’s true, SAS treats KD as unstoppable but doesn’t see that Jokic is even more unstoppable than KD because of his strength & passing ability.
Oh my gosh thank you for this comment. He would be in here singing us the gospel of how Rudy just couldn’t do anything to the unstoppable force that is Kevin Durant (yet gets stopped every year) because he’s 7 foot tall and dribble the ball and CAN PULL UP FROM THUURTYY…
LMAO SAS doing anything he absolutely can to make sure Jokic doesn't get all of the credit. Jokic could drop 70, 30, 20 being triple teamed the entire game and SAS would say "bad defense"
He did the same thing against Luka when he dropped 73 points earlier in the season and you know whats similar between Jokic and Luka.
They are shameful gildress and the whole lot of them @@djkido316
Yall smart guys missed the entire point of the video
He called Lukas 70 piece disgraceful to the league😭
@@beski3283they’ve adopted this new victim hood mentality 😂
If Jordan had this performance, they would say “he’s Michael Jordan. No one can stop him”
You know how it is no point even bringing it up we know the truth thought
Jokic isn't Jordan bro. Not saying he's not an all time great but he ain't Jordan
@@gandalftheghetto1172he’s going to be better than Jordan
@@Dthreat__6lmao
@@Dthreat__6 there's a rehab facility in every major city bro, go look up which one is closest to you
Ngl..Gobert played great defensively. Look at the shots Jokic made and tell me what more Gobert could do, the man is simply on a different level.
EXACTLY! Gobert played great defense, only way he could do more is to literally foul Jokic. Defense is reactionary & Jokic has the best touch in the league, he can manipulate the basketball like a master chef. The NBA favors offense too so there’s only so much Gobert can do in a 1 on 1 situation & Jokic is a phenomenal passer
They want him to leap into space to grab those sky hooks, lmfao. What else is bro suppose to do.
And gobert used his full length and still couldn't affect the joker. Gata give it up to joker rather than talking about gobert
Indeed. Jokic made lots of crazy shots. If anyone else attempted them, it would qualify as extremely poor shot selection.
I don't blame Gobert as he did everything he could to stop Jokic. Jokic just made some unbelievable shots and you just got to give him credit for that.
In the 2001 NBA Finals Shaq averaged 33 15 and 5. Did we hold 4x DPOY Dikembe Mutombo accountable? I think not.
💯💯💯
Exactly, I’m so sick of the media pushing narratives
Dikembe was 35 years old pipe down
@@FreeBsands31who had just won his 4th DPOY THAT YEAR...
Yeah. Out of context. Mutombo was pretty old by then
If Jokic was black, SAS would just say he's unguardable
You’re right, SAS is not giving Jokic his proper credit
Why watch him...if he is prejudice?
Not if he was black. If he was the type of player who could land on the knicks in the future* yeah. He sees him as a boring who wil never leave his small market so he sees no need to promote him
As a black man, I highly agree. We know Rudy isn't the best defender in the league, if AD couldn't stop joker Rudy is going to get worse. And if an NBA superstar is hot no one can stop them, we have seen it a million times.
Suppose he was Asian?
If Joker was American white or black, he would be getting much more props than he does. The guy is phenomenal
Nah only of he was black. No way racist ESPN analysts would give a white dude his flowers
He's literally 3/4 MVP & called the best player in the world right now already tf else you want.. Dude has one championship been in the league 10 years
@@onestopshopbeautiful response.
@@onestopshop they want their great white hope to be treated like a god in a no big man era lmao. legs literally said hakeem & every other great defensive center couldn't have done ANYTHING last game.
@@joshuatreadwell5619🎯
SAS is just pathetic at this point lol. You mentioned Rudy is 4x DPOY but did you mention Joker is 3x MVP?! They try their best to discredit him, but he proves them wrong every single year. And NO YOU DONT KNOW HOW GREAT JOKER IS, because all you do is slander him
Yeah! And rudy is mainly a help defender, like most center who gets the DPOY, he s not a great one on one defender.
No one is discrediting Jokic, you're just being sensitive. SA says he's great all the time.
It's a win win for him cause he can hate/ignore an Euro either way!! 😂
@@crimson8183 and they say we cry bout being victimize all the time
Right he keeps mentioning goes he’s the 4x DPOY but doesn’t mention 3x mvp finals mvp and on his way to being on the greats very quickly. Rudy will not end his career by one of the greatest..
Gobert played good defense, Jokic just played better offense. MVP>DPOY, END OF DEBATE.
TIRED OF SEEING JOKIC FANS. ITS TIME FOR JOKIC TO RETIRE
@@PacmanBrunnerJOKIC AND LUKA ARE BETTER THAN YOUR FAVORITE PLAYERS KEEP CRYING ABOUT IT LIL BOY YOU GON BE ON LIFE SUPPORT WHEN EITHER LUKA WINS HIS FIRST RING AND FMVP OR JOKIC HIS 2ND RING AND FMVP IN JUNE😂
Again the point of DPOY is to be a stopper. Gobert was in a blender the entire game. Looked like his dad was spanking him across his knee. Looked like a boy playing against grown men. An ant playing against an elephant. Gobert needs to retire while he’s ahead.
@@PacmanBrunner the 29 year old?
His career is over 😂
Blaming Gobert for not stopping Jokic is like blaming someone for not stopping Kobe or Jordan, or Lebron. Makes no sense.
Exactly, these players are once in a life time players, just try to contain em and hope they miss.
There is sometimes literally nothing u can do
Exactly. I’m not sure if I’ve ever heard of Stephen A ripping Shane Battier or Ron Artest for not “neutralizing” Kobe or Mutumbo for not “neutralizing” Shaq.
They were black so the africans didnt care
Tried to sneak in Kobe 🤣it’s actually not same Kobe would have a mid game every other game
This!!
“It’s Gobert fault” as if Jokic hasn’t put up huge games against Wemby, Bam, and AD, the other 3 best interior defenders in the league smh. Not to mention Jokic would’ve had about 20 assists instead of 13 if it wasn’t for Gobert’s unbelievable help defense.
Those 3 aren’t better interior defender than Embiid, maybe only Ad. And jokic NEVER cooks him. It got to the point where his stats started saying he can never outplay Embiid because it’s not in Denver..lol
@@youngerudit2524 Jokic is 8-1 against AD in the playoffs in the last 2 years, 12-1 in the last 13 matches they played, and averaged a 29 point near triple double on his head in this year's First round. Also, if you think that Embiid Is a better rim defender than any of them, ur Just delusional. Go and rewatch all of last year's BOS PHI series, especially game 7, where boston was literally targeting him at the rim. He Is a great interior defender, but not Better than AD, Gobert, Wemby, Bam or Chet.
@@youngerudit2524how many chips does Embiid have? How many MVP’s does he have. Jokic is a winner. Embiid isn’t
I wonder if SAS has this same energy about 4x DPOY Mutumbo getting worked by Shaq in the finals.
Mutumbo was the best defensive center in his prime. And he couldn’t stop Shaq, he was just unstoppable. This is may be similar with Gobert, Jokic is a beast.
That mutumbo was old tho
Olajuwan stopped Shaq!
@@abdirazakwarsame7864 No, he didn’t. Shaq averaged 28 points, 12 rebounds and 6 assist a game on over 59% shooting in the 95 finals against Hakeem. Hakeem outplayed Shaq, if anything.
Same with David Robinson. He was owned by Hakeem Olajuwon in playoffs
It's not just joke. Embid, ad. Freaking Ben Simmons gave over him 40. He good defender but not great. Your 7 foot a thousand you better rebound and block some shots..know one say he should have hold jok to 10 points. You cannot get destroyed. The best game they played was when he was out
IT IS NOT GOBERTS FAULT. JOKIC IS SIMPLY UNGUARDABLE
He was terrible first 2 games completely stoppable
@@wartape201 BAD GAMES HAPPEN TO EVERYONE. TELL ME SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER HAD A BAD GAME. IMPOSSIBLE
The usual suspects in the sports media (like Stephen A) would rather criticize Gobert for being "overrated" than just giving Jokic his flowers. Jokic cooks EVERYONE. Name an elite defensive player than Jokic HASN'T torched. In the playoffs alone he's given Adebayo, AD, and Gobert (and KAT, anyone else the Wolves have thrown at him) the business the past two seasons. But they do whatever they can to downplay Jokic's legacy by saying the defense on him sucks.
I think Kat does better, not shut him down, but 8 of 9? That's pathetic
@@Maxrepfitgm kat does not do better. Do you not see him run away from jokic on defense HAHAHAHA
@@MaxrepfitgmKAT gets help defense from Gobert. Gobert was on an island against Jokic.
@@Maxrepfitgm KAT only does better cause that means gobert is available to rotate for help so jokic doesnt attack him like that and defers to his perimeter guys to force minn to play hime straight up
They're biased. Nobody said that when AD or Bam were getting abused. It's the treatment that euros get. Sad.
They don't want to give the joker his credit so bad 😂😂
As I am an old white man, I've long been aware of racism by whites towards people of color. What I have only recently learned is that there are similar racist views by some people of color directed towards whites. SAS and Gil Arenas just cannot directly admit how great of a player Jokic is.
If a 4x DPOY got cooked like vs. someone else, yes, we would laugh, but u forgetting he got cooked by 3x MVP and NBA current champion.
The most hilarious thing was listening to Draymond Green speak during the halftime/post game show on TNT. He was talking as if he would have done any better out there vs Jokic. It's like Richard Jefferson said in that JJ podcast, you could line up all 5 top DPOY candidates and Jokic would have cooked all of them. Especially that night. He was on fire in game 5.
Jokic wouldn’t have scored on Draymond. Draymond would have nut kicked him and gotten himself thrown out the game.
Look at the 2022 series. Dray made it super hard on him. Theres a video out there.
@@marcosjuarez1490 Dray made it super hard on him and yet he dropped 31/13/5??? Wow.....
And this is with Jokic having Austin Rivers, Campazzo and Monte Morris, not Gordon, Murray, Porter and KCP like he has now.
In the last two seasons, Jokic is 7-0 against Golden State and averaging 28/12/6. Some defense Draymond is playing there....
Tim legler is 1 of the best analysts in sports with no real bias. Giving the DOPY award to a center when guarding the perimeter is the 1st line of defense. Especially when you have players that can do both Wemby, AD, Giannis, Jaren Jackson , Embiid might be a step slower but his defensive impact is much higher.
If you paid any attention to that Phoenix Suns series, in 4 games Rudy Gobert willingly switched onto the perimeter and guarded KD, Book, and Beal….not sure where people get this narrative that he can’t and/or doesn’t guard players (let alone elite scorers) on the perimeter.
@@noahwelch2931 I hope you have other games to make your point bcuz this 1 not gone land . Just bcuz the SUNS couldn’t take advantage of the mismatch and cook Rudy on the pick n roll just says how bad the SUNS are. Like let’s be fr they couldn’t even get 1 game with the top scorers having 20-30+ points in multiple games with the last game KD having 30+ and Booker having I believe 49. The SUNS just couldn’t exploit the bad matchups . That is not a series to claim Rudy as the modern day Wilt Chamberlain.
Good point
@@noahwelch2931 🤔 now where would people get the idea that Rudy can’t guard the perimeter….
@@noahwelch2931 Repeating what I said , Phoenix couldn’t take advantage of the mismatch , but DALLAS can.
Jokic dropped 43 points 7 rebounds 13 assists no turnovers on 4x DPOY nobody can stop the joker he proved media wrong he should've been 4 straight MVPs Embiid robbed him
Embiid never robbed him and Embiid himself cooks Rudy all the time so…jokic robbed Embiid when he won that miserable mvp as a 6th seed then got swept.But go ahead, keep riding the twitter trend lol
@@youngerudit2524embiid hasn’t made it past the 2nd round in his career (in the east!). He simply doesn’t raise his performance when the playoffs come. Jokic on the other hand gets much better in the postseason
@@gnielsen07you know MVPs and DPOYs are regular season awards, right?
As much as Wemby's robbed of DPOY. Gobum sucks!
Espn is full of clowns (stephen a, perkins). Respect your profession, it is not just talking for the sake of talking.
what are you even yapping about?
@@David-hw9siRacist? Tf ru talking about bro. Their fkin colleagues are WHITE. Moron
Yep, Including JJ
NBA pays the networks what topic to discuss. Fox and Espn are just messengers. I believe NBA is also paying podcasts. You can tell from the topics.
All are calling out Rudy instead of praising KCP, Brown or Gordon.
@@broskiiv.2663 From the fact that the commentators do not have a work ethic, they try to put their thoughts above the facts, they really like the circus and many times they are not professional. They think they can say anything and get away with it.
Remeber when SAS said the Timberwolves and OKC are a lock for the WCF? 😂
Tbf, after game 2 that seemed legit. Denver didn't really show us anything in those first 2 games that made us think otherwise
You guys gave Marcus Smart a pass when Curry was giving him buckets all finals. Like Drake said is Gobert/Jokic not black enough??
Not for Shaq he’s not
Curry gets 4 screens every play and does not even play the post and shoots from the parking lot, that is not comparable
@jimmcmeen761: Shaq’s gonna hate on any great Center that came after him at some point, he’s still upset he only won 1 MVP.
Y'all keep making these illogical comparisons.. The nuggets are attacking Gobert lol. Jokic isn't just cooking him. The paint is open season for Denver right now. When they need a bucket they are attacking Gobert..GS didn't do that to Marcus Smart. The nuggets didn't do that against L.A. They didn't say "we need a bucket let's attack Davis." The nuggets are choosing Gobert to attack brah. That's pitiful for a 4 time DPOY
@@jimmcmeen761tbf, Shaq just hates big men that get compared to him regardless of color. Dude hated on Dwight like no other. He feels insulted when compared to Robinson.
Don't think it's really a race thing with Shaq. Dude's just jealous and petty
The media are making excuse for anthony edwards.. rudy gave a 18pts should edwards match jokic production
Thank you, Rudy gave 18 points on 7/7 fga which is about as good as you can expect from Rudy. I’m not gonna put all the blame on Ant because of how great he’s been & with Conley out it made his job a lot harder but KAT has been struggling in this series maybe due to his injury but still you are the 2nd big time scorer on the team, when Ant is struggling it’s on KAT to step up & take some of the pressure off of him. That would free Ant up from the double team as much & allow him to thrive without Conley in the offense
Exactly, they deflecting from the fact they falsely crowned Ant the next Michael. And as a black man I'm tired of the media not giving Luka and Joker their respect
@@ronaldgreen9167stop dicc sucking lmao nobody cares that you’re a "black man" (that’s if you actually even are),trynna stand up for your european kings, LOL,ant is obviously not mj and he said it himself,the media didn’t crown him mj,dumb white kids in twitter did because he "looks like him",and when it went viral as Ant was becoming a star, the media started picking up on that. But he doesn’t even play like mj, doesn’t look like him at all and most importantly he doesn’t like that comparison himself. With that being said, Ant is 22, he doesn’t know how to handle blitzes yet. Kd still barely knows how to and he’s in year 18 but y’all call him unstoppable. Give him time.
"He should match the 3x mvp in production" LOL, at 22 and at this stage of his career,joker wasn’t even good enough to make the playoffs.
@@marckusduverger9776Kat had 25 last game ant had 18 on 5-18 they not good enough the nuggets were not playing their best basketball the are now and these the results
Sas just wants joker stopped
He doesn’t like white Europeans being successful in the NBA
It ain't happening 😂😂
I agree with JJ, no matter how well you defend, there are some players you just can’t stop from scoring. Anyone who has been hooping long enough has seen someone like that in person or was that person themselves.
Just because you are DPOY means you can stop every single player in the league. Jokic is just that great.
No one can stop Jokic. Stop acting like anyone stopped Jordan, LeBron, Kareem, Shaq or any other generational player. Jokic is no different
LeBron, lol. This the same guy who has historically been quiet in 4th quarters of playoff game.
Lol
Rudy played amazing defence on Jokic. It's just that Jokic is phenomenal.
Have you ever heard "elite defence, better offence"
No he didn’t, his defense was far from elite
No
@@xlj12345678901 rewatch the game. Rudy blocked Jokic a few times and heavily contested most of Jokic's makes. There's a reason why 90% of Jokic's makes were highlights, because no one in history could make those shot
They won 2 games w/o Rudy HE'S THE PROBLEM!
@@lilsaint910 if it's easy as that their coach wouldn't have kept Rudy on Jokic for 3 straight games.
There are other factors like Conley being injured and Murray recovering from the injury from the previous round. Jokic is amazing and Gobert played him fine.
When Jokić was torching AD in Lakers series nobody was talking that its ADs blame. ESPN found another Euro to blame.
Seems that way. Rudy is great at help defense and protecting the paint. He's not stopping Jokic one on one.... but no one else is either. Look at Bam and AD matched up against Nikola. They can't stop him.
not even a basketball fan but Gobert was trying his damnest and Jokic would just put the ball up and I went in like magic making I look easy. Its not all on Gobert, Jokic is just him.
When black mvps dominate a game-you just can't stop the MVP.
When white mvps dominate a game-WHY DIDNT YOU STOP THIS SCRUB?
Yall weren't just questioning why Gobert couldn't stop Jokic, yall were pinning all the blame on Gobert for Jokic having a great night instead of giving Jokic credit for achieving what he did. All the media does it take credit away from Jokic's greatness by blaming it on someone else not doing their job. Media discussion was 10% Jokic was great and 90% Gobert was bad. If a white MVP posts a historic game, it's not because of what he did, it's because of what someone else didn't do. If a black MVP posts a historic game, it's because he's unstoppable and thats what he always does.
Why continue to watch if the media is bias. If I think the media is prejudiced, I don't follow, especially when it's just something like basketball
@@Cahluvca you aren’t the comment police buddy. People can voice their displeasure all they want.
Bro Im white , but I think we as Euros need to start becoming more athletic. I.e u get props when u completely waste ur defender by dunking on him. More intensity always helps with asserting dominance. If Jokic was Lauri Markkanen build doing this plus dunking on people they would have no choice but to start respecting him and put a different image on us as a whole.
I agree nobody is stopping jokic but cmon guys you watch this game Rudy isn’t even really trying on defense, he’s letting jokic get comfortable, not pushing jokic off the block or trying to deny him. He goes up his not jumping or making it hard. Lastly jokic is being way more physical
Can y'all please give Joker his flowers
Stephen A is forgetting to mention 3x MVP
But he never fails to mention 4x DPOY
SAS's complaint about JJ is exactly what he does. Dude is the biggest hypocrite.
@tommygunn2782 JJ got the podcast with Bron. He don't need to watch his back. I think he's gonna drop the ESPN appearance. He doesn't need ESPN.
The same Rudy Gobert that claimed he would lock Shaq up 😂
Fair, but the same Shaq who in today game who hav 5 offensive fouls before 3rd quarter
@@kararal9834 he would’ve also been fouled 12 times by that point in the game also.
@@kararal9834You're nuts! If Goebert is getting pushed off his base by Jokic he is getting pushed and backed into the shadow realm by Shaq.
@@kararal9834if LeBron isn't known for picking up a bunch of fouls in this era, neither would Shaq.
@@myleekb ? That's a dumb take LeBron and Shaq don't play like each other 🤣
If Shaq had a bad game, are giving props to the defender or saying Shaq was off his game? Give Jokic his props, this man is definitely on his way to be one of if not the best center in history
The best center in history being liable on defense is crazy
@@youngerudit2524Jokic’s not a defensive liability. He leads the league in defensive box plus minus followed closely by Wemby
Steve A Smith almost died at 4:02 😂😂😂
lol
Stop it
😂😂😂😂
Jokic is so good, he's even making Hall of Famers get mad publicly
Jokic showed one of the best performances of the history of the sport. The defense didn't matter. But Minnesota collectively tried their best.
I don't remember AD getting slander last year when Jokic was cooking him in the WCF 😂
AD doesn't have any dpoy trophies
@@gandalftheghetto1172 Pepperidge Farm remembers ppl calling AD the best defender in the NBA but sure 😂
duh, because he doesnt have dpoy. you want recognition? Remember it comes with all the smoke too
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@@bickenbackbeinbool771 Ppl were calling AD the best defender in the NBA last year 😂 i love how amnesia is selective lmfaoo
I get JJ - the fact that he had 0 turnovers makes you really understanding of that fact that Joker was on a heater and nothing was stopping it.
Truth
Its not just on Gobert , AD is another top 3 defender in the league and has no answer for him . Jokic is great
SAS complaining that JJ gets sensitive when someone has an opposite opinion is beyond hypocritical.
They just never want to give any credit to Jokic about who he beats. Last year he was 1 missed free throw away from sweeping these Wolves, but everyone was saying it was impossible for Gobert and KAT to work and that it was the worst trade in history. Next round, they were calling Ayton a Jokic stopper before the series began, A.D was called the best defender in the playoffs, and Bam was a DPOY candidate. But once Jokic embarrassed them, people were looking for excuses to change the narrative, saying those players weren't even good to begin with.
You are 100% right. T-wolves have the best defense in the NBA .... but anything to avoid giving credit to Jokic.
@2:58 Rudy didn't no which way to go 😂
Boogie Cousins made the best argument on Bully Ball the other day about Gobert. He said that past DPOY, such as Ben Wallace and Hakeem the Dreams defense, was so impactful that it would change the outcome of games. Rudy defense just doesn't hit the same. Twolves had their best defensive game against Denver the game Rudy didn't play. Facts!
It’s really concerning considering jokic had his worst game when Rudy didn’t play and his team got blew out
KAT has done a better job on Jokic and there perimeter defense is 1000 times better when Rudy is off the floor
It more has to do with Nuggets adjustements after game 2 than about Rudy
@@beski3283straight up they should put Gobert on AG and have him sag way off of AG so that he's essentially just playing rim protector. Put KAT on Jokic with Gobert coming over as help defense.
@@radicalmatamunemaybe for game 3 but game 4 he went AT gobert and beat him 8 out of 9 times. No Turnovers. That's torched.
@@JasenMinus No, he was 8/9 on Gobert in game 5. Jokic was 3/12 on Gobert in game 4 and 2/4 on Gobert in game 3.
The shots jokic was taking were over good defense
He’s MVP and has multiple for a reason. All time greats are hard to stop no matter what award you get so no one is to blame here.
Should've gave that DPOY award to Wemby
💯
Facts
Just appreciate a 🔥 old school center match-up between the DPOY and MVP. Reminds me of the 1994 & 95 Shaq-Hakeem finals. But no, we need some random Gobert rant.
Reminds you of shaq and Hakeem?
Rudy is overrated period... He shouldn't have won...
@@adamlynch6954If you think wemby deserved it then you should know that Jokic avgs like a 30 point triple double against wemby💀
@@josephle2381 AD should have won it... Not wemby
@@xlj12345678901right I’m so confused lmao
If jokic was black the dude would currently be in GOAT C conversations across the board.
He literally won MVP 3 times dude what are you talking about. You act like they ignore his greatness. 💀
SAS choking on his take about denver getting sweept
Come on now, Minnesota. PLEASE give us a great game 6, I need 7 games from this series.
It's over.
@@hgabrielroseman4499 looking real over after a 45 point blowout lmao
"Can I get something from Gobert to stop Jokic". Yes you did. Still not enough. Thats the whole point. The mans just that dominant. It wont take a player to stop him, but a whole strategy. And even thats not enough, because hes smarter than that. I repeat, Rudy is simply not enough to beat him not because hes bad but because Jokic is just that good. Jokic will eat even better in the next potential round, trust me. Stop it now, and give him some credit instead of bashing Gobert
Its not Gobert fault, its Jokic's greatness. Those plays he made were unreal. Gobert deserves his dpoy, just that you need a generational defensive player to stop Jokic. Coming from a Raps fan.
an all time playoff performance and no flowers given to the 3 time MVP, man what's up with ESPN
Gorbert is actually playing decent defense, it just doesn’t matter against jokic
What defense 😂
Gobert looked lost half the time, so I don’t know what defense your talking about
Where y'all blind af that man getting cooked out there like habichi
@@royaltydeal1441no one in the league can guard Jokic 1 on 1 lol
@@nateisinvincible a washed up Dwight howard entered the chat
The difference of JJ's basketball knowledge vs Stephen A is astronomical
Love how J.J. Reddick pointed out that Jokic was 11/28 against Rudy prior to the game he went 8/9 against him and they ignored that 😂😂
Ridiculous, no defender in the league is gonna stop Jokic in this form. He was contesting every shot and Jokic just happened to be making every thing on the night. Jokic is that good so award the players greatness and don't try to belittle another player.
I mean the blame goes to the Joker for being so simple
He’s literally a European Tim Duncan
I don't think that's fair. His game isn't that simple, he's actually got a great post-move bag and hits circus shots on the regular that Duncan really only took if the clock was expiring.
Their games really aren't that similar, Jokic is like what Marc Gasol would have been if he had Pau's finesse (not saying Marc didn't, just that Pau was definitely more skilled at scoring in the post).
His game is anything but simple though. For people that truly value high IQ, substantive basketball played the right way that results in WINNING, Jokic game is fascinating to watch. Way more fun to watch than Tim Duncan, who I’ve always had a high-level and respect for as well.
@@Jkev24Marc gasol was a great defender.
@@youngerudit2524 I know. I'm talking about him offensively
Tim was never this good at scoring and passing. Jokic is one of one
I wonder if wilt, kareem, hakeem, etc had this kind of hate and slander when they were dominating? Did people recognize theor greatness at the time or did they just scream "bad defense"? Legit question.
No those players got the credit they deserved. The T-wolves have the best defense in the league but the clowns like Smith pretending they are the Wizards.... rather than credit Jokic.
Dude they literally blew up Bill Russell’s house because he was black. Do your research please.
@christophercox936 I haven't done any research which is why I asked the question. Obviously. Sheesh can't even ask an honest question anymore without someone berating you.
It's called Jim Crow...Bill Russell got real death threats and slander. Among many other things...
Love the suit SAS, should I bring it up ‘Now or Later’ 🤣😂🤣
He's literally in his face contesting every shot, what more can he do?
Stephen A is just another clown talking nonsenses , jokic is too good , that simple.
JJ Reddick does not keep it real. He gets sensitive like Stephen Jackson. Some NBA players will not give honest takes . They get sensitive because its they are former NBA players.
Look at all the clips. That is good defense right there. Just unbelievable offense.
Rudy Gobert has made every team he's played for the number 1 defense in the NBA. How's that for impact?
This the truth.
There’s nothing you can do to stop Jokic!
Our offense is the issue. That’s where we are struggling the most right now. Doubling ANT has completely made this series challenging.
SAS SHOULD REPLACE GOBERT ! 😂
Jokic would have the 1st 200 200 stat line
& 15 assists 🙏🏾
Legless made the best point. Gobert hasn't faced a real big man in the post like that before so he doesn't know how to defend. And no Jokic would not have done that to Hakeem on his worst day. Dream on!
And gobert was saying he would lock up prime shaq 😂😂😂
Gober played very good defence on Joker , same like AD last year and this year , but just look those shots .
Joker just turn GOD MODE .
He actually did play good defense.... even on the video those were great contests but right now joker is on another level.....
I have yet to see them actually talk about the specific defense he played. Instead they spew out this hate. The audience is too lazy to even recognize that Jokic was forced to have several counters and still make a shot over a heavy contest
Some of of the plays are good defense but way better offensive. Also other DPOY/close to DPOY candidates also struggle against Jokic and yall making Gobert think he the only one that struggles against Jokic
It’s not suppose to be that easy. Gobert plays with no intensity, just lets em do what he wants. Plays with no force.
Joker was just cooking. Give him his props. He figured it out and started smoking the team.
For all of you guys saying No one is gonna stop Jokic … that’s fine … so what’s the point of having Rudy out there? Play Kat C and make Jokic work on the defensive end at least put more offense out there. they are letting Jokic off the hook defensively
I agree this is on the coaching staff with their game plan but blaming rudy is weak and shows people weren't watching the game.
Brother Jokic is just that good . No one wants to give the nuggets credit at all. It’s always the other team that’s the reason.
@@Cjust15I know he’s that good … my point is Rudy gets paid 40 mil and he’s got one job … if he can’t do that job then unfortunately he’s a liability out there he’s got absolutely no offensive skills to make Jokic work on the defensive end
@@ryanlebard3787 he had as many point as ant man... stop blaming gobert
Rudy got exposed in the playoffs when he played in Utah
That team was not built to help Rudy’s defense, he’s best when he can be near the paint. Jazz had awful wing defenders which made Rudy have to over help
The jazz had no athletic perimeter defenders to compliment Rudy bro. That's the difference
Legs being Legs, always giving thoughtful answers.
Its not the 40 points that are the issue, its the efficiency. Great players will get their stats, but 68% shooting with 0 turnovers, Gobert has to do better than that
If you watched the game, you would see that Gobert made no defensive mistakes. Jokic was just that good
Blame Shaq for poking Jokic
I 100% agree. It was a message to the media and SHAQ. I hate to say it as a black man, but they hate seeing Luka and Joker be the best players in the league.
@@ronaldgreen9167 exactly 👍
This is ESPNs way of changing the narrative to not give Joker credit for playing MVP ball. Make it about how the DPOTY is playing "bad" defense instead.
ESPN holds a weird grudge against white ballers.
I mean… that’s part of it. Jokic is great and Rudy should be playing bettter. Both are true.
He got played off the court in Utah during the playoffs was that Jokic to?
@@vaheed7518no it’s because nba knows gobert sucks… if he wasn’t 7 foot he wouldn’t be in the nba. No skill set other than blocking shots
He’s not a good defender. That’s why the media is confused by their own pick lmao
Frankly Gobert didn’t deserve DPOY this year. Victor Wembanyama had mire defensive impact on a non defensive team than Gobert did on the wolves.
8:22 Its funny how SAS gets right back into his take lol
SAS spot on here
Big Ben killed Shaq in the finals. So tired of all these arguments defending Rudy. You can’t be a 4x DPOY and a straight up defensive liability every single time it matters. This isn’t something new, it happens every single year. Rudy is a good defender but the rest of the league is so bad that it’s the only reason he’s won the award more than once. Wemby’s here though, Rudy will never see another DPOY
Shaq being out of shape was really starting to get to him around that time & they match up well. Jokic can shoot! Shaq can’t, Jokic has great touch & is the greatest passing big man we’ve seen. You don’t think that might have anything to do with it?
26 and 10 is killing Shaq???
@@brianduru3753 down from 36 and 12, yes
I wish they included the rest of JJ’s take. When he mentioned Ben Wallace and mutumbo getting owned by Shaq and David Robinson getting owned by Hakeem
We about to see a great basketball game tonight. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
He’s a really stupid defender. He makes multiple mistakes on defense almost every possession.
lol they were playing better when Rudy wasn’t on the floor idk why they haven’t realized they need to take him off the floor these past 3 games
No they weren't they played 1 better game without him otherwise they were -12 when gobert wasn't on the floor.
That's because his minutes parallelled Joker's minutes.
The arms of Jokic after games are full of bruises and scratches. They think Twolves is not defending Jokic😂
Molly said one thing the entire interview saying she misses jj on the show😭she has the life
jokic is making crazy shots, gobert has been pretty good on the perimeter when he is out there too. jokic did this to AD too like comon now, this dudes finesse n touch is probably the best ever...