Should Victor Wembanyama Win DPOY? | NBA on TNT
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2024
- Shaq, Candace Parker, and Jamal Crawford debate Victor Wembanyama or Rudy Gobert for NBA Defensive Player of the Year on NBA on TNT Postgame Show.
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Bro, shaw has to give it up, this is getting ridiculous, youre hating on this kid for no reason. Its like he see’s this and is jealous because he can see that wemby can become the best and most dominant big of all time. This kid is not normal.
He's doing a gimmick for TV, don't take his "analysis" of Wemby too seriously. I'd worry if Tim Legler started analyzing basketball like this lol
@@lulululululu2939it’s not a gimmick, he’s serious.
@@lulululululu2939 Nah Shaq is serious.
@@whatwhat9004 he can't be cause that makes litterally no sense
@@phux You ever wonder why he only acts like this in TNT? You watch him in other places and he's the most reasonable guy in the room. One thing you should know about Shaq is that he's a pro wrestling fan and gets the concept of a "bad guy" getting heat. If you know who Chael Sonnen is, he'll seem like the biggest douche until you realize he worships the Attitude Era and loves the Rock
By that logic, one can argue that Shaq was only so dominant because he was just bigger and stronger then everyone else. He was supposed to be.
Pretty sure he’d agree with that
@@gbmbg114 No he wont... because there were people bigger than him that have played in the NBA and they didnt do the same. Shaq Knows he is hating...
you have to WANT IT.
Soon according to Shaq WENBY will have to apologize because....he is Black
Also, Bol Bol is 7'3" isn't he supposed to do that too?
I’m sorry, but y’all don’t know the difference between hating and holding supremely gifted players to a higher standard.. all shaq is saying, “ok great.. now give me more”.. and the point is that you can’t get satisfied by just being gifted.. and if you stay hungry, you’ll accomplish a LOT in the league..
Shaq a hater 😂😂😂
Jokic>> shaq
I thought you knew
That's facts. First he said bol bol is in the league and victor is nothing new. Victor puts up incredible numbers.. as a rookie... As a rookie.. now shaqita wants to say he's suppose to be doing that.
Shaqita has always been a hater.
@@irwandi2476that man ain’t dominating like that stop it
@@lloydjr8337well to be fair, he is a better all around basketball player than Shaq, (I mean the way he plays and the fact he's been top 5 in assist in the league the last 5 years practically) but he is in no way close to as dominate and never will be as dominant as Shaq was, that's impossible. But jokic can shoot, pass and his game iq is ridiculous...he got Shaq beat on those
Not really surprised shaq is hating on Victor he's always been like this against spurs players never giving them credit even back in the dynasty days us Spurs fans remember it all
Shaq has to be trolling at this point. 💀
Just super jealous
He loves bol bol❤
Shaq is a hater! He doesn't want Wemby to get praise because he knows Wemby has the potential to be the greatest big man of all time 🎯
Boy Stop
Wemby's already better than peak Shaq, he'll be unanimous MVP if the Spurs reach top 6 next season.
Wemby already better than shrek i hate old head hater zeke isahia thomas would give wemby big praise
Wemby isn't gonna be the greatest big man of all time, he is gonna be the greatest player of all time. If he wasn't on minutes restrictions he would be in the talk for MVP. He is already averaging .72 points per minute played which is 7th all time and it's his rookie season.
@zakglove6536 If he becomes the greatest player of all time, that would make him the greatest big man of all time as well because he's big. Like I said, the reason why SHAQ is mad is because Wemby is a big man and Shaq feels like Wemby's success as a big man will overshadow his own.
Shaq is jelly & salty against Wemby! Chill Shaq!
Foreal. F bol bol lmao...
@@EA97_ sleepy bol bol just chilling in the bench, while Wemby blocking & dropping shots.
Shaq would dominate this guy
Shaq is fucking painful with this lineup. Chuck, Kenny and Ernie pull him up on his bullshit whereas with this lineup he feels like he can say anything and not be challenged. His takes are fucking horrible lately.
Where is Kenny, Chuck and Ernie?
@@dell500jd You forgot Bert
“I wasn’t trying to do it”. We are now entering 12 year old debate tactics 😂
lol
Freemason vibes
Honestly I’d take the average 15 year old over Shaq on any kind of mental exam
@@eddiea2446wtf? You people are so weird lmao
We already know why shaq is hating on wemby. Already wemby number is comparable to Shaq MVP season and he's just a fucking ROOKIE. It's not going to be long before wemby top shaq in record and accolade.
"Zach Eddyy is 7'5 he ain't doing that"
Shaq: "who?"
Zach Eddey is 7'5 he ain't doing that"
Shaq: "He's dominating in other ways"😭😂😂😂😂
Zach Edey brother
Bol Bol doesn't even move as mobile and athletic like Wembanyama and he says he does it exactly like him. Come on now...
Bro that’s not what he’s saying. He said Bol Bol is the first to be close to Wemby’s height and be able to pull out some of the same moves as Wemby does now. And he’s right. They’re just trying to deny it because Wemby does it so effortlessly whereas Bol Bol damn near got clamped attempting those moves. He never said anything about Bol Bol being as mobile and athletic as Wemby
@@360carter3 Wouldn't Porzingis be the first if that's the case?
Bol Bol has a lot of the same gifts and skills as Wemby. He could have been great. But there's a problem -- some people say laziness, others say that he was never given a chance, maybe it's a combination of both. Wemby has been given the chance and he wants to be great. Btw... Ralph Sampson also had some limited guards skills back in the 80s. His body gave out too soon.
@@brandontingley7059 You guys have to stop with this nonsense... Bol Bol was given a chance in Orlando a Real Chance his Ball IQ is lacking and his general attitude is care free... his "y'all are dick riding" is the sort of stuff a prospect who wants to make it big will never be caught saying ... etc
Shaq himself says it, he is lazy and Shaq knows him personally and has seen his attitude and training .
Everything Victor does is to be the best he can be , same as Lebron and Jordan before them.
@@grichkatayou7558 Isn't that kind of what I'm saying? He's got gifts and tools but he doesn't care if he's great...
Shaq mad because wemby already better then him in his first season 😂
The name of the award says Defensive Player of the Year, not Defensive Team Player of the Year
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Rudy is still a better defender period. Victor will get his in time but this year is Rudy by far
Wemby is the true dpoy. He don't need any reward. We know his numbers 😎
Next season hopefully we are cheering for him and the spurs in the playoffs.
@@Ant-Man612Spurs have a better defensive rating with Wemby on the floor. He has more games with 5+ blocks this season than Rudy Gobert. You cannot punish Wemby because his team stinks, that’s not his fault.
@@SUBZRO Rudy is our defensive coordinator. He elevated the entire teams level of defense. KAT is a good defender BECAUSE of Rudy’s influence. I don’t expect a rookie to have that kid of influence.
Plus blocks are not an accurate way to grade defense. Rudy’s reputation deters players from even trying him. His rim deterrence rate is far greater than Wemby’s and opponents shoot way lower percentages when Rudy is on the floor.
Shaq jealous of wembys work ethic
Something Shaq never had.
Bol Bol probably has Shaq's leaks
When did 7'3" Bol Bol led the league in blocks, Shaq?
Your arguments are wild. 😂
Bol bol lead stats in nights spent in shaq's couch....
@@stanlexii4846 💀
7’2*, Bol Bol is a good 2 inches shorter than Wemby who is exactly 7’3.5, so basically 7’4 BAREFOOT. So not only Bol Bol isn’t 7’4 or 7’4 or even 7’3 like Porzingis, but his handles aren’t as advanced and creative as Wemby handles, Wemby is literally more creative than Lebron or KD in term of handles and footwork, never seen KD or Bron pulling the shamgod and Wemby already did it twice and it wasn’t a basic shamgod, the first was a fake dribble hand off to a shamgod to a lay up vs Gobert and the 2nd a shamgod into a spin move and finger roll, he has the mind and IQ of a pg and the athleticism, agility, speed, coordination ect of a 6’9 wing like PG or Tatum that’s crazy he is a rookie and is already the most complete player in the league imo, Embiid is a close one with his improved playmaking, but Wemby the last 5 game averaging 29/15/7 and 6.5 Blocks 😂😂😂When this guy get great players around him and a great system built for him this statline will be his season stats 😂And he could do this in his sleep just like Jokic
Shaq acting like a boomer.
Shaq continues to look silly with his Bol Bol infatuation.
if at 7'4" Wemby is supposed to do that, then why Porzingiz, Marjanovic, Bol Bol, Muresanu, Yao Ming and many other giants never had so much blocks, they were not even close, may be because there is something to do with natural agility and muscle-neural connection and responsiveness of Wemby
That was a weak statement from Shaq " suppose to be doing it" hahahha then all players should be suppose to be be MVP or dpoy or any awards hahah
and hes better. shaq wish he was as fast and could shoot 3's too
What amazes me is the 1+ steal per game... the man steals balls...
Wow, you said " muscle -neural connection. Yeah, your smart 🤓. I like that. 👍💯 Wemby is definitely DPOY. 👽
Manute bol, shawn bradley
If you really wanna see Shaq head explode, start calling Wemby "Superman"
Shaq is allergic to centers with good defense, Dwight Howard, Rudy Gobert, Now Wembanyama.
The only reason Shaw is like this to Wemby is because he feels like WEmby is treatning his career. So the big man is trying to downplay him at every chance he can get, as an insecure person would.
Sorry Shaq 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣,everyone know you salty🤢🤢🤢🤢
Shaq is becoming a fool with Wemby
He will eventualy say that it was to motivate him to get better and better like he always does.
@@clementpistre9031yup my thoughts exactly
@@clementpistre9031 nah mate hes saying that cause hes a bully and hates europeans
Shaq is a jealous fool. That's all.
Shaq should just sign bol bol to Reebok
😅😅😅😅
Shaq is a fool
Yes. Stat wise he is head and shoulders above all else. Gobert is helped by the best defensive team especially by the best perimeter defense in Ant and Mcdaniels.
Shaq is giving bol bol a reebok contract or he is just delusional
I'm now convinced Shaq doesn't like Frenchies
Yes ! Know one this season has had such a defensive start. Just jealousy at this point
I m French and i loved Shaq but each time he talk about Rudy or Vic he s like à racist
It’s not just French players Shaq is insecure idk why he gets so much praise.. but every time I good big man comes along he hates on them just look at Dwight Howard. He’s a hater and shouldn’t be taken serious but the network knows negativity sells he’s becoming skip Bayless.. when chuck talks bad about a player you can tell it’s constructive criticism but when Shaq does it it’s pure hate
Shaq hates the French race, but he's more just insecure about his own legacy.
@@olivoil2002 true
@@olivoil2002you do realize “French” is not a race, it’s a nationality
Shaq Is A Whole Hater ..I Know Longer Trust Shaqs Opinion On Any Subject On Or Off The Court ...
you know longer😭
How tf do yall dumbasses survive 😂
Know longer.
Capitalizes every word.
Help us.
Wemby should win hands down. I'm spamming the NBA media if they give it to gobert
Shaq needs to be check in his logic cause he's looking like a dumb here lmao
I think Wemby should get both ROY and DPOY.
It's funny how Shaq try to downplay Vic's performance by saying Bol Bol the one first to do it but is just lazy which ends up shitting on BolBol. Lol
Shaq about to die on his hill.
Bro, Wemby about to shit on your career .
I love the way Shaq is always tried to protect his legacy but in reality there's always somebody bigger and better
Shaq reminding everyone he’s an old head hating on the new generation.
But instead he picks the one guy with a connection to the older days and glazes him despite him not even being a top 100 player in the league after god knows how many years in the league 😂🤣 can’t make this shi up
Rudy Gobert wasnt putting up those numbers when Jazz sucked in previous years.
yeah shaq just hating at this point bro😭
If you watched Shaq documentary you know this is how he show love and want to see the best for ppl he like
Its defensive player of the year, not defensive team of the year. lol
Id honestly be curious to know the Bpg average or Bp36m for a 7'4 and 7'5 player in the nba, see if Victor performances are really expected ;)
You also have to take a consideration that Wembanyama is doing it in a era that’s dominated by 3 point shooting.. there hasn’t been a player to average 3.6bpg since 2015-2016 season that’s 8 years.. and in the last 20 years only 4 players have accomplished that.. by the way none of those players where over 7 feet.. plus you include the spurs defensive rating with him on and off the floor.. there’s no way anyone can honestly say Rudy Gobert has a better impact on his teams defense and there’s no way anyone can say Gobert’s having a better individually defensive year.. imagine the spurs defense or T wolves defense with Conley, Edwards, macdaniels, and Victor
Spurs are 4th or 5th when Wemby on the floor. Get your facts straight!
8th...with only 2 defenders vs 5, Wemby and Sochan
Wouldn’t it be awesome (if unrealistic) drops a quad double or 50 pointer on Chet in a win against okc today (April 10th). Wemby postgame says “1 of 1” or something and then mic drops to a historical rookie Season
shaq be like "this kid might actually greater than me and i hate it"
ROTY+DPOY
Shaq is exactly like he was in Kazaam...BAD !
The numbers are the same but the intimidation factor is off the charts and his entire rookie defensive film could go in a museum that’s how insane it is. He’s bigger than Rudy and more agile and skilled.
Continue Shaq, push it
Its good for Victor at this end
As a Spurs fan since 04' let me say this. Looking back at the previous defensive players of the year Marcus Camby, Dwight Howard, Ben Wallace, Marcus Smart, Tyson Chandler, Joakim Noah, Marc Gasol etc
They didn't always lead the league in blocks and steals nor were their teams the best defensive team (but they were at least top 5-7)
I think when it comes to Victor we have to look at the bigger picture, yes the team defense as a whole is one factor because great players make their teammates better. But also not just zooming in on the steals and blocks and saying this guy has more so he is better... Defense is also about rebounds how often do you let the other team get their missed shots and how often do opposing players score on you while you are marking them + how often do you foul and give them free throws.
I would be happy if Wembanyama wins it but I understand if he doesn't. Best defensive player is more complicated than who gets the most steals and blocks
If Shaq thinks he can bluster at Mount Candice like he does Chuck, he is in for a rude awakening.
These dude talm bout people don't try Wenby at the rim, they do that to Rudy too lmao yall need to watch the Wolves play
The award is called "Defensive player of the year" not "Defensive team of the year". Might as well change the award name if your including team record. That's just hating at this point now.
Shaq's mind everytime a sensational big man shows up, " yeah we're both bigman but I'm better than him. I am hating on this kid."😂
Shaq is being a damn clown. Shaq - "He's 7'5", he better be leading the league in blocks." Jamal Crawford - "Why didn't you ever lead the league in blocks?" Shaq - "I wasn't trying to." Total clown!
Shaq is genuinely threatened by this young man's ability.
"You guys and the media!!!!! " Next Shaqtin' a Fool headline🤣🤣🤣
One thing i like about wemby he is always looking to block a shot, he is pretty good at guarding 2s and 3s and is very good on weak side defense.
I’d like to see the Spurs shut Wemby down for the season. At this point winning these pointless little games are only hurting our chances for the upcoming draft.
The fact that there is a legitimate discussion that Wemby should win defensive player of the year in his rookie season is scary. The wemby takeover will be televised
Shaq is so jelly because he's gonna make everyone forget Shaq
The NBA does not track PAPG (points against per game) or oFGM( opponents field goals made) so guards don't have enough stats to be considered for DPOY. I want to know which guards in the league can actually hold these high scoring guards that every team has in todays game.
Wemby is his team’s defense. Rudy has Ant and Conley.
Hold on hold on hold on
CP started with saying "Jamal you are reacting and freestyle and ending saying Wemby is NOT like that BUT he is reacting and freestyling" Can someone explain what was CP trying to say?
Why the confusion? It’s Defensive PLAYER of The Year, not Best Player On the Best Defensive TEAM of the year. Doesn’t having other good defensive players on your team actually help you as a defender? Conversely, having poor defenders around you makes your job to be a top defender harder.
Candace be "air quoting" ball handlers in front of one of the greatest ball handlers of all time. Great conversation!
Shaq said hell yeah that's enough for me.
I honestly think they took what Shaq said out of context.. he was referring to wemby being 7’5, he should be blocking shots . It feels like they took it as, he 7’5, he’s supposed to be doing all the ball handling and shooting stuff.. shaq wasn’t talking about that when he said he’s supposed to be doing that
putting that lady up there gonna have their blood pressure up
She better than this fraud shaq atleast she defending wemby
Victor wemby isnt shit 22 wins in a season.
He’s not winning games off of defense.
Not the DPOY.
Wemby is quite simply the greatest basketball rookie ever. Jordan, Magic, Bird, nobody is even close. No one his size with his coordination, creativity, his skill has ever played before.
I never thought I say this about a great player like Shaq....But Shaq is hating and wrong.
Top 10 defense with wemby and bottom of the league without him. WHY no one ever mention this stat when talking about Wemby's chances to be DPOY ???!
About the defence the on off stats for Wemby is sick, with him it is an elite defense in SA without him the worst. So you can definately make a point.
But what i also like to mention Jokic is also great on the on/off stats for years, even historical one of the best in DBPM - i know must people saying he can not defend i am more a type of guy that defense is not only blocking and stealing. If you have good positioning, you avoid action the rebound drop to your hand. Many people who are considered good defenders, arent it in my opionion because they gamble a lot yes you block some shots but you also fall for a fake. You steal a ball, but a out of position 3 times because you fail to do so ;) jokic isnt DPOY but imho he is one of the better defenders, not a liability.
Shaq ain't the only hater, ESPN and NBA, no spurs coverage, the shamgod didn't even get in the top 10. They won't talk about them when they win, just when they lose.
Shaq not even hating plus why yall trippin DPOY is Rudy
Even his co-workers are starting to tell Shaq that he is talking shit...
Who’s that dude next to Crawford
Ask any current NBA player and Wemby is their DPOY
I can’t with the fucking boxes they have to help them match up with shaq
Simply let all players vote, who they think affects their play..even just mentally at court! The time has come to change how this DPOY is being given! Media DPOY votes is bcoz, there has alaways been a very thin separation from dpoy candiates.. Has there been a center that leads in steals? Why is there no DPOY at finals if this is a team and not individual award😵💫?
He should win based on any sensible metric. It would be almost an affront to statistics as a field to not let him win.
I only watch NBA since V.WEMBANYAMA arrived. He is so incredible to watch... DPOY? is it a real question? Lol, OF COURSE HE IS 😮😂❤❤❤
When you see Wemby just smother someone like Giannis you know. When you see the whole offense of a team want to pass the ball instead of shoot you know. Dude is just built different, and in his case it is not a metaphor, he is physically different. You could not design a better basketball player in a videogame. The only things that can stop Wemby's dominance of the NBA is Wemby's body and the team around him, everything else we have seen enough to know he is it. I think he's a multigenerational talent, although I do expect more Wemby like players to pop up in the next couple of decades as a result of the information age facilitating global recruitment of athletes, and this is true for all sports.
Do Shaq remember a guy called Tacko Fall? He is 7 feet six inches tall. He has played very shortly with Celtics and Cavaliers. Did he lead the block statistics for a season? So height is one thing. And to block shots like mad is anothing thing. It is not a "should" thing.
Tacko was a rim protector when on the court. He just didn't play much. His "per 36 minutes" stat was 5.5 blocks (2020-21 season), which was actually higher than Victor's 4.2 per 36 minutes this season.
@@richatlarge462theres a reason why he couldnt play much lmao😂😂😂tacko couldnt last 36 mins on the floor because he simply wasnt good enough. Its stupid to take the per 36 min stat when yk the player wasnt good enough to play that many mins
@@AT-dp6rg I'm not comparing Tacko with Wemby. I'm only saying that Tacko was a force when it came to blocked shots.
Shaq is Wemba number one fan! He encourages him to do more!
Shaq needs to give Bol Bol a space in his hall of fame room 😂
Or in his bed at that point
Shaq always insecure to a bigman whose better than him. He thinks he's the best bigman of all time.
For once the writers didn't drag a storyline out.
they dont know how to handle shaq's shenanigans to get a straight answer. just ask him who he thinks SHOULD win, not who WILL win, and he will say wemby!
Shaq shouting bolbol bolbol
imagine he gets rookie of the year, defensive of the year, and MVP WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Victor is 7’3.5” and not 7’5”. I’m surprised Shaq didn’t say 8 feet tall, in his blind adoration for Bol Bol.
Shaw never gives to players until they retire, he did the same to duncan
Lets say that this year DPOY goes to whoever not wemby. Than next year he gets a serious injury and never do again what he is doing this year... than what, they will wait until he gets older and in a team with good defensive teammates to give him a pitty dpoy for past achievments? Come ooon. This year is this year... if he gets dpoy for the next 20 years, so be it. Legend... let legends be legendary
Wemby should star in Kazaam 2 to really piss Shaq off