The friend is question is Kimya Dawson and she names John and the mountain goats in her song Lullaby for the Taken and I just think it’s really sweet that they’re both musicians and still friends
"It's good to be young, but let's not kid ourselves; it's better to come out the other side, still breathing, having faced down all those demons." I found one of my old journals from when I was 16. I couldn't help but cry as I read it. At that point, I just knew in my soul that I was going to end up killing myself before my 18th birthday. Here I am at 23, scarred and bruised but stronger than I ever thought I could be. I think that the terrified kid I was would be so proud of who I am now. And, I am so damn glad that I didn't kill myself. Maybe you are now where I once was. Maybe you're a scared kid in school who feels like they have no one. Remember: you are not alone. You never have been alone, you never will be alone. I love you. ❤
Hootowlnumber 1 that’s kinda the worst part of having suicidal thoughts as a child. You think “one day I’ll be young and dead so none of this matters” But it’s life. It does matter.
Life is hard sometimes, there's no use in pretending that it's all roses. I am genuinely proud of how strong you are and how far you've made it. Maybe I sound like the stereotypical cheesy inspirational quote, but you matter. I am glad that you exist and that you're still here.
Lol here I am now, 23 and I'm the lowest I've ever been throughout my whole life. I constantly wish I would have ended it years ago. Nothing has ever gotten better, it has only continually reminded me that I am truly worthless in this life. And I'm sure that my "friends" and family will only act like they care after I'm dead, when I can't call out their bullshit on how they were never there for me. I've tried talking to them, crying for help but I only ever get ignored. I've given up on passion, dreams, hope and love. Please don't talk for everyone. Sometimes it just never gets better for people. I know this from experience.
I truly hate that you're having an awful time. I honestly wasn't trying to speak for anyone but myself. I know I may be coming off as a sachrine-sweet inspirational Tumblr post, but that wasn't my intention. I know this won't feel genuine, coming from a stranger on the internet, but I do care about you.
i love the idea of writing such an emotional non-love-song for someone. it's truly beautiful to care so much about a person you probably didn't even knew that well
I think that the line "I hope the people who did you wrong have trouble sleeping at night" is honestly one of the most brilliant things I've ever heard, because it simultaneously A: admits that the people who hurt the person he's singing about are human and are capable of emotion and still hurt this person despite that, and B: that guilt is genuinely a miserable feeling and that the singer regards it as a just punishment, that he hopes they have to live with what they've done- it's more mature but somehow just as cruel as saying "I hope you step in a bear trap" or something like that. That's just my analysis, because when I heard that lyric I almost started crying, so that's cool.
I love coming back to different videos of this song over the years to see what people say and how they feel about it. Great analyses by the way and I agree. I also wanted to offer a C: although I know this thread is a year old. I agree guilt is a miserable feeling and sometimes a just punishment, but wonder if that line also conveys like A: they are people who are human and capable of emotion, who have trouble sleeping at night thinking about it because they want to change those behaviors and action in the past, present and future moving forward as a person. TL;DR They're people just like anyone and the singer hopes they are bothered by those thoughts not as punishment but as an inward reflection and instrument to change for the better.
The best part is that he says " I wish the painful memories only flex their power over you a 'little of the Time' " . If he had said that hopes that the memories were forgotten or even just forgiven it would have seemed unreal, like some sort of fantasy. But the fact that he reminds us that those times will always haunt us, even if just a little, makes the whole song more believable... more real.
*I wish the painful memories only flex their power over you a little of the time* I just got a tattoo with this lyrics and it is dedicated to people with trauma.
i know i know i know this song isn’t about me, but as someone who wore spiked heels all throughout highschool, went to a school with concrete halls, and was bullied and struggled with my self esteem constantly, it is so so heart warming to listen to this and just pretend someone could have loved me enough to write it for me
As a kid I thought people who dressed in spiky clothing were cool so you probably had some kids looking at you and wanting to be like you when they grew up
There was this incredibly talented kid in school. He would draw such amazing manga, with full story arcs and so, even though he was just 10 years old. He even drew characters after the only two kids who were his friends. I thought it was the coolest thing ever, but people thought otherwise and were mean to him. Also, his parents were difficult. I tried to invite him to my birthday twice, but they wouldn't let him come. I felt bad for years, because I would have loved to be there for him more time. It's been 20 years and I don't know where you are, but I remember everything and still think you are cool, Isaac. I'll always think of myself as Bift, the user of the mighty Indian Ocean Punch!
I think what I love most about his singing is he's not trying to sound nice, he's just singing cause there's so much emotion he had to express it. Music today is so focused on sounding nice without meaning anything....
You've nailed something that I've always completely loved about John. His music has never been for anyone else, it has always been for himself. He wrote what he wanted because he wanted to, not because anyone else made him. Like I'm sure we've all heard the story of how Sara Bareilles' Love Song came to be- that would never have happened with John, and while I also love Sara and Love Song is a proper bop, I have mad respect for someone who does it for himself.
One of my friends was trans and committed suicide back in 9th grade. I had met them online in 6th grade and we clicked instantly. I always thought she was the coolest most understanding person. They came out to me just a few months before they took their life. I can't believe that was almost 8 years ago. I miss you Alexis
@homonculust I hope you have trouble sleeping at night, asshole. Whenever someone you love (if you care about anyone) dies, remember what hateful shit you decided to say about the death of someone you never knew.
apparently from what i heard, john has only ever done live performances of this song and likes it being an unreleased live-only song. tho he said that he may end up releasing it officially in the studio.
No matter how I word things I’m not satisfied. I really want to be pitied and cared for. Like, a lot. This song is how I want someone to feel about me. I do the most I can for everyone I know and I don’t get very much back. Being kind was something I hated about myself because it felt like I was everyone’s dog or something, like this happy puppy someone could kick and it’d come trotting back ready to get kicked again. Again, I really don’t think this wording is enough. But I’ve wrote this kind of comment so many times and I haven’t posted any. I always look down on people who write comments like this because it’s pitiful, but really I’m not better. If you read all this, thanks. Thank you for the time you’ve spent. Also I’m proud of you. I think people are starting to realize how hard living is. It’s really cool you’ve made it so far.
you deserve to have your pain and kindness acknowledged and I hope you find people who will do that for you, or that you find acknowledging it for yourself is enough.
My heart goes out to you, I understand how you feel. It will get better eventually, I know it will. You will find people who appreciate you for who you are and who treat you with kindness just like you do with them. It'll be okay
He's a really good lyricist, and the line "It's good to be young/ but let's not kid ourselves" really seems like a good example of that to me. He has a really good way of getting to the point, not really getting all frilly and extra, but still making everything deeper than just surface level. "Let's not kid ourselves" draws attention to the fact the wanting to be a child forever is, well, childish, and using a saying that already inherently means "don't be childish" to do that, and connecting it into the "it's good to be young," is just really cool to me. Like, the first time I listened to it I didn't even see it, it was just "it's good to be young but don't be foolish" basically, and then after listening to this song probably 10 times, I've finally realized the deeper side of it. He doesn't push his lyrics to be roundabout and weird, you still get the meaning if you only take it at face value, but it's really cool to realize that a lot of what he sings isn't straight forward, and if you analyze it a bit deeper, you find these semi-hidden gems. I'm just rambling but it's super nice, I love this song
I had a series of mental breakdowns towards the end of HS in 2014 and 2015. After a while I became recluse, and as of Feb 2020 I've barely gotten out of bed or spoken to anyone in years. But you know somebody probably did think I was cool in highschool.
"I hope those painful memories only flex their power over you a little of the time". I love this lyric. it's so important to remember that while painful moments will always get to you, they don't need to take over your life
I don’t know what your real name was because you only ever signed your homework as Claudia Chaos, but this song makes me think of you every time. I bet you’re still cool.
When we were both in a really bad place, my best friend and I started dating. As I got better, I knew I wasn't really ready for a relationship, and I could tell he wasn't either. We just didn't want to be alone. But he would always degrade himself, and when I would go offline for days he'd say it was fine, though I knew it wasn't. He deserved better, so even though I knew it would hurt him, I broke up with him. We don't talk anymore, but I still miss him sometimes. He was a fantastic friend. I hope he's doing well; and I hope that if he's in a relationship, that they're able to give him the attention and love he's always deserved. Because as much as I cared for him, I just couldn't.
I know it's been two years since you wrote this... but I'm on the other side of that right now I think. My ex and I started dating right after a failed suicide attempt... It made him realize just how much he cared for me... It was good at first, we were good together, but he felt like he just couldn't give me what I deserved, because I needed him and he just didn't have the time for me. I always told him it was okay and that I understand and I really was okay with it, but eventually he just left me. He was my best friend and what hurt me most was that he just cut contact entirely. I still write him letters for his birthdays and christmas, but I never get any reply. He was absolutely amazing. The only person that ever made me feel wanted and like I could just be myself, like he just understood me. I hope he's doing well...
Reading through the comments here, I hope all of you lovely souls are doing better, and I hope your friends are okay and you were able to get through to them in some way, you all deserve so much and I'm so proud of you all for coming this far! T omorrow will be better, it has to be ❤️
When I was young I used to be really extroverted and sociable, but that all changed when I was bullied throughout elementary and junior high. Between that and being an only child it seems I have never really developed many healthy social skills. Now in high school I find my confidence to be outgoing almost nonexistent. I was lucky though, my parents supported me and I was able to change schools part way through junior high. Despite that I rarely had more than two close friends at a time and I have never been in a relationship. This weighs on me sometimes and I just feel alone. Looking forward to coming out on the other side still breathing.
Augustine I can relate a lot to this. I was also an only child, and I was bullied from elementary school through the beginning of high school. My parents let me change schools as well while I was in high school. Things got better for me, I hope they get better for you as well, if they already haven’t. I feel the past still haunts me at times, I often think people secretly think of me how my bullies thought of me, but for the most part I am okay. Having a few close friends is always going to be better than having a plethora of people that you’ll have to weed out eventually. You seem like such a nice person, I hope you find someone that reminds you of that, and how you didn’t deserve the ill treatment from others growing up.
after years of therapy i realized i have trauma because of highschool. People were mean, even if i had friends, most people would always mock me, throw things at me, pretend to be nice and then cutting off the act. Still today i can't pass a group of teenagers without getting scared, or even people in general, unconsciously thinking they may harm me, for what i could make out in therapy. Sometimes i cry listening to this, wishing that someone that i met back in highschool hopefully thinks this way about me.
this song reminded me of my old highschool best friend who was exiled from my friend group over a series of misunderstandings. no one in the group but me really missed her. I hope she's doing okay.
this song is so precious to me. i don't have anyone to connect this to me except for myself- especially middle school me. those were the shittiest years of my life and this song helped me get through it, helped show me that there was always something better on the other side. you just have to get through the shitty part first.
I went to see them in Amsterdam a few days ago. The middle section of the gig was just John and his guitar. As is usual this song got a lot shout outs from the audience and he decided he'd play it. He said it wasn't a song he liked to play live often because it was deeply personal and that when he'd written it it was meant as a song for him but the internet changed that. He then asked that he be allowed to sing it on his own so he could achieve the right emotional space to do the song justice (I'm paraphrasing, BTW, I was in Amsterdam and my ability to recall the exact words may have been a little impaired). Anyway, in a crowded Paradiso, everyone except the man on stage was stone silent and he sang his heart out. Absolutely one of my best gig moments ever. They played a number of absolute favourites and ended with a rip roaring full band rendition of Best ever Death Metal Band Out Of Denton, which was awesome. You Were Cool, though, was the highlight and the beating heart of the whole gig for me.
I decided to listen to the song on the swings and i am glad i did. I started crying half way through. This is what i needed to hear even if it wasnt for me
I used to know someone in highschool. She wore big platform boots and colored wigs. I looked up to her so much. So purely and genuinely smart, kind, and humble. I guess she didn't grow up well, and I know people she trusted were always hurting her. She killed herself. I'll never forget her, I looked up to her so much
"we held onto hope of better days coming, and when we did we were right" this one goes out to you, to me, and to all of us. thank you for being here kiefer and chloe and tyler, and i can't wait for you to be here again nick and ella. i miss you guys, i love you both. here's to better days 💚
God,whenever i hear this song I always think of my middle school self, a child who deserved more then they got, a child who was hurt,bullied, and abused.a child who tried so hard to fit in and make friends. A child who had to grow up too fast due to the recklessness of the idiot adults around them. I honestly feel sorry for that child, for what they missed out on, and I honestly wish younger me could've had someone like current me in their life to help them.
This song sounds like a caring friend reminding you you didn’t deserve the mistreatment you’ve endured.. realizing those memories will always affect you.. but hoping the majority of the time you’re still able to feel okay. Hoping those people feel guilt for ruining your view of reality and reshaping your whole world, making you expect the same treatment from everyone you encounter afterwards, a burn that will always burn. It hurts especially because I know the pain of it. This song is a great comfort.
What an amazing song. To all those struggling in the comment section: know that you are loved! And that staring down your demons will be hard work, and it will suck, but *you can do it.* And to all those maybe not struggling as much: I think a big part of the song, and the singer’s, pain is that he DIDN’T tell the subject that they were cool. He clearly regrets his inaction, which is why he’s hurting so much. So if you see someone who’s struggling, or going through a tough time, reach out to them. Give them a compliment. Ask how they’re doing. It’s not your job to fix their problems, but showing that you care can help be a light in their darkness. Don’t wait to tell them that they’re cool. Do it now. :)
Change it to "paddling down the concrete halls in your cheap shoes" and that's my memory right there. We dated two years. My mom died. I found drugs. We broke up. She never found anybody I hear. I've always regretted what happened.
my queerplatonic partner said this song reminds him of us so im here listening to it now :) i met him in highschool but we're both in our first year of college now and i hope we continue to stay in touch! she's really special to me. idk i just wanted to put this out here ^^ even tho this isnt on spotify i think being an unreleased song makes it all the more emotional and impactful to listen to
I've come out the other side and let me tell you, it feels great to be able to breath again. All you beautiful souls, just keep your hearts beating and some day you'll take in a lungfull of fresh air once again. 'Till then, hold on.
For the vast majority of us, high school is a battle for conformity, wearing the right clothes, listening to the right music, smoking pot, drinking beer even though you hate the taste, fighting not for your pride but just to not look like a weak chump. Constantly striving, not to be anything amazing or to be the coolest kid on the block, but just to keep your position. And there are always the outcasts, for whatever idiotic trivial reasons barred from ever being socially acceptable. And your friend from elementary school is one of them (a nerd who likes Magic and wears old faded jeans that are a bit too tight because that's all he has to wear because he's also poor) and the best you can do is hang out with him when no one's looking and be silent and ignore it when people badmouth him or he's getting bullied or publicly mocked, because you're certain it isn't in your power to fix it or change it and you absolutely fear the possibility of ending up in the same boat as him. Then you graduate and maybe for a few years you see a few of them, but it all winds down and eventually maybe there's one or two you see every so often, and did any of that really matter anyway? And now I think back to those days and really regret those dark moments but still don't see any way I could have done anything to change the situation he lived through and anyway he's long gone, far beyond being helped or hurt by anyone or for my apology to mean anything.
This makes me think me, brother, and my mother. We’ve gone through so much and even when I’m mad at them or I felt or feel like I hate them, I love them. We can be frustrating to each other and we have a lot of scars that haven’t fully healed but we survived. We are tough motherfuckers. I forget that sometimes.
One of the worse thing about bullyng, is that sometimes people who get bullied are the nice sensible people, bullyng is a bitch and every bully that is reading this, I forgive you, but you gotta payback and treat people as nice as you can
I want to write the response song to this in which the person says they'd always considered themselves cool and had no idea they were being bullied in high school. This is literally the first they're hearing of it, and they're shocked. "I always thought people liked me, which is why they kidded me so much. So now you're saying I was UNpopular? Well, sh*t. This kind of ruins my day."
I remember you. I don't know where you are right now. There is absoloutely nothing I wouldn't give to see you again. I still have the flower you gave me. A dandelion. It's withered and dry now. But I see it and think of you. I remember the braid you always loved. A french-fishtail combination that you created yourself. I remember when you did it on my hair when it wasn't brushed and we spent the whole night laughing and trying to get the huge knot out. I remember when Skylar said I was ugly and you stood up for me. You said I was very pretty and she was just jealous. I don't love anything the way I loved you. Your beautiful eyes, your glowing smile. I'm so sorry. That last time we spoke, I didn't say goodbye. I didn't even tell you I was moving to another state. I couldn't bare to see your face. I was a coward. I should've told you. The next time you see me, if you ever do, you would slap me. I deserve it. I remember when we walked home together in the rain. My hair was soaked and you let me use one of your towels to dry off. I miss you more than you will ever know. I would die a thousand deaths if it meant I could spend one more afternoon with you. You deserve everything and so much more, Juliana. -molly
When I hear this song I think of one of my best friends, she wasnt scared to be herself and not conform to the rest of the school, she got bullied a lot for this and was also homeless/not had the best home life...especially compared to some of the rich kids at our school. She's doing a lot better now and I still think she's coolest person I know
This is genuinely one of the most beautiful songs ever written, it's simple and that's the point it's a honest song with nothing to distract from the point
This song will forever bring me to shuddering tears thinking of the brutal murder of my high school ex-girlfriend. I'm an absolute wreck afterwards, but it's cathartic enough to be worth it every single time. Thank you John.
Kinda reminds me of the MC in the show Patriot. He sings folk songs alone in the park or in a room full of people. He sings for himself, trying to work through the pain of his life.
It’s too little to write a comment on CZcams but it’s better than nothing, so... Tyler I’m sorry I wasn’t there for you when you needed me most buddy. You were always so much cooler than me. Rest easy.
I’m not kidding when I say this, but I think I have depression. I’ve been so unmotivated and sad for the past two months and I lash out at my parents for no reason even though I love them. I’m on the verge of tear everyday and I don’t even know why. I’m so scared
Have you talked with anyone about it? I know that reaching out can seem daunting, especially when one is already in the throes of mental illness, but it honestly is the first step towards improving your mental health overall. You may have spurts where you struggle with mental illness for days, weeks, or even months at a time, but coming from someone who's been at odds with their depression and anxiety for the past several months, who has experienced days where everything seems to be filtered through a soupy, seemingly meaningless haze, believe me when I say it gets better. The only way to make it through hell is to keep dragging your boots through the fire, unbearable as it may be at times. But happiness will return, eventually- first in short bursts, then in longer intervals, until mental wellbeing is a state of mind that is only intruded upon occasionally by the harbingers of mental illness. Eating healthily, exercising, going outside, breathing exercises, grounding skills, etc., although seemingly cliche practices, all genuinely help to improve one's overall mental wellbeing (that is, if one is in a place where they can habitually engage in said practices without too much exhaustion). Most importantly, however, know that you can make it to the other side. I believe you will. I know you will.
GRAND SUBURBIA same for me but its been about a year and a half. Has not gotten any better, i was basically forced to do things. Never lashed out at my family, except siblings and yea that made me feel bad. My parents would slap the shit out of me tho. Anyway I’m still undiagnosed but i might have it and so might you
-destryinaraincoat- They havent hit me since i was young. Which was definitely abuse. Now my mom mostly does manipulation and emotional torment. Im an adult now tho so no one can really do anything except myself. Too depressed to do anything tho since its only gotten worse since the 7 months i left that comment.
My favourite mountain goats lyrics: And I'd hope that if I found the strength to walk out You'd stay the hell out of my way, When you came in I could breathe again and People were mean to you but I always thought you were cool.
"I wrote it for an old friend of mine, and she is fine, if you are curious.
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- John Darnielle at eTown Hall in Boulder, CO, October 2016
I thought she died thank god she’s okay
Thanks for tying up a loose end that's been rattling around in the back of my mind.
The friend is question is Kimya Dawson and she names John and the mountain goats in her song Lullaby for the Taken and I just think it’s really sweet that they’re both musicians and still friends
@@doctorworm420 Holy fuck for real??? I listen to both of them! I never knew this.
@@doctorworm420 it's not, what makes you think it is? it's about someone he went to high school with and he didn't go to high school with kimya dawson
I searched up 'mountain goats being cool' to find mountain goats climbing up mountains really cool but I found this song instead and it's pretty cool
Lmfao I find this hilarious ndkdnkddjdk
That's the most precious thing I've ever heard ngl
@@comradedrugs711 ... Sir? Did you have a stroke? Are you ok?
You would be surprised how many tmg fans were originally searching for the animal
@@RossPitSharkHunter I think his name should be the end-all be-all for answers to that question.
I love when mountain goat lyric videos include "John Darnielle losing it"
"It's good to be young, but let's not kid ourselves; it's better to come out the other side, still breathing, having faced down all those demons."
I found one of my old journals from when I was 16. I couldn't help but cry as I read it. At that point, I just knew in my soul that I was going to end up killing myself before my 18th birthday. Here I am at 23, scarred and bruised but stronger than I ever thought I could be. I think that the terrified kid I was would be so proud of who I am now. And, I am so damn glad that I didn't kill myself. Maybe you are now where I once was. Maybe you're a scared kid in school who feels like they have no one. Remember: you are not alone. You never have been alone, you never will be alone. I love you. ❤
Hootowlnumber 1 that’s kinda the worst part of having suicidal thoughts as a child. You think “one day I’ll be young and dead so none of this matters”
But it’s life. It does matter.
I made it to old and it's not better yet, but I still haven't Done the Thing. Yet?
I'll probably make it through this year, unless it kills me.
Life is hard sometimes, there's no use in pretending that it's all roses. I am genuinely proud of how strong you are and how far you've made it. Maybe I sound like the stereotypical cheesy inspirational quote, but you matter. I am glad that you exist and that you're still here.
Lol here I am now, 23 and I'm the lowest I've ever been throughout my whole life. I constantly wish I would have ended it years ago. Nothing has ever gotten better, it has only continually reminded me that I am truly worthless in this life. And I'm sure that my "friends" and family will only act like they care after I'm dead, when I can't call out their bullshit on how they were never there for me. I've tried talking to them, crying for help but I only ever get ignored. I've given up on passion, dreams, hope and love. Please don't talk for everyone. Sometimes it just never gets better for people. I know this from experience.
I truly hate that you're having an awful time. I honestly wasn't trying to speak for anyone but myself.
I know I may be coming off as a sachrine-sweet inspirational Tumblr post, but that wasn't my intention.
I know this won't feel genuine, coming from a stranger on the internet, but I do care about you.
Self care is sitting in your bathroom with the lights off and listening to The Mountian Goats
Calvin Poe Holy shit. I just found this while on the toilet in the dark. wow
You're good:)
Mood
wtf I’m literally doing this rn
It's... stra-a-ange?
I'm so glad you're all still here.
We sure did make it, didn't we?
@@dusfowl we made it as far as we have, and there's still so much to come but I don't plan on stopping now or anytime soon.
I’m so glad you’re still here.
Thank you @Dustin Fowler I really needed to hear this today
Thank you. I really needed this song in high school.
i love the idea of writing such an emotional non-love-song for someone. it's truly beautiful to care so much about a person you probably didn't even knew that well
I think that the line "I hope the people who did you wrong have trouble sleeping at night" is honestly one of the most brilliant things I've ever heard, because it simultaneously A: admits that the people who hurt the person he's singing about are human and are capable of emotion and still hurt this person despite that, and B: that guilt is genuinely a miserable feeling and that the singer regards it as a just punishment, that he hopes they have to live with what they've done- it's more mature but somehow just as cruel as saying "I hope you step in a bear trap" or something like that.
That's just my analysis, because when I heard that lyric I almost started crying, so that's cool.
Completely agree. I (stupidly) did a lot of wrong because I was done a lot of wrong, and it still feels like a 3am bear trap 5-7 years later.
"Guilt is not absolution. Regret is not justice. But it is right that you suffer" -Extus Narr
I love coming back to different videos of this song over the years to see what people say and how they feel about it. Great analyses by the way and I agree. I also wanted to offer a C: although I know this thread is a year old. I agree guilt is a miserable feeling and sometimes a just punishment, but wonder if that line also conveys like A: they are people who are human and capable of emotion, who have trouble sleeping at night thinking about it because they want to change those behaviors and action in the past, present and future moving forward as a person. TL;DR They're people just like anyone and the singer hopes they are bothered by those thoughts not as punishment but as an inward reflection and instrument to change for the better.
I'm astonished by how much this sounds like a The Mountain Goats parody, and yet it's just The Mountain Goats
ur right but this is still an amazing song usdifuhsig
Wow yeah, so true.
What kind of hollow shell of a person would parody The Mountain Goats?!?!
@@theendisoverdue the mountain goats
The best part is that he says " I wish the painful memories only flex their power over you a 'little of the Time' " . If he had said that hopes that the memories were forgotten or even just forgiven it would have seemed unreal, like some sort of fantasy. But the fact that he reminds us that those times will always haunt us, even if just a little, makes the whole song more believable... more real.
I was thinking the same😟
"May your pain become bearable; may your joy be transcendent."
*I wish the painful memories only flex their power over you a little of the time*
I just got a tattoo with this lyrics and it is dedicated to people with trauma.
This song absolutely slaps when you’re in your room in the early hours of the morning reflecting on your middle school years and crying
too right!!!
Hahaha. Shiiiit. I can't help but feel totally called out right now. Tears and all! ❤️
i know i know i know this song isn’t about me, but as someone who wore spiked heels all throughout highschool, went to a school with concrete halls, and was bullied and struggled with my self esteem constantly, it is so so heart warming to listen to this and just pretend someone could have loved me enough to write it for me
someone probably did admire you, even by afar and quietly. i know i would’ve thought you were cool :)
@@milan4989it is indescribable how much your words mean to me. thank you
I can guarantee you someone thought you were cool. You're still cool, always will be.
As a kid I thought people who dressed in spiky clothing were cool so you probably had some kids looking at you and wanting to be like you when they grew up
You are loved. 💛
“I hope the painful memories only flex their power over you a little of the time.”
That part gets things right, man.
Bo Burnham enegy but less funny and more pain.
ScribbleHideout if you like this then you will like crywank
@@melodylienert3963 I agree
Majestic Kitty7 ayy this comment got me to look them up and now it’s an hour later and i’m still listening, thanks!
That's just because of talk signing.
You should see them live, they're great!
There was this incredibly talented kid in school. He would draw such amazing manga, with full story arcs and so, even though he was just 10 years old. He even drew characters after the only two kids who were his friends. I thought it was the coolest thing ever, but people thought otherwise and were mean to him. Also, his parents were difficult. I tried to invite him to my birthday twice, but they wouldn't let him come. I felt bad for years, because I would have loved to be there for him more time. It's been 20 years and I don't know where you are, but I remember everything and still think you are cool, Isaac. I'll always think of myself as Bift, the user of the mighty Indian Ocean Punch!
That's the most endearingly tragic and artistically badass thing I've read. You 3 sounded like you deserved to be closer friends.
you can hear him crying.
...Yeah...
A lot of singers in this genre can be heard crying. Crywank, the mountain goats, cyberbully mom club, flatsound
Hmm
@@genericusername4206 whatis this genre called?
He's not
I think what I love most about his singing is he's not trying to sound nice, he's just singing cause there's so much emotion he had to express it. Music today is so focused on sounding nice without meaning anything....
Idk if you've been living under a rock but Midwest emo and math rock still exist and folk
You would love bands like Hobo Johnson, The Front Bottoms, Pat the Bunny, etc., etc.. :^)
@@emilywelsh3616 modern baseball, old Gray, mom jeans
Mcafferty and AJJ are also band that have very similar energy to this
You've nailed something that I've always completely loved about John. His music has never been for anyone else, it has always been for himself. He wrote what he wanted because he wanted to, not because anyone else made him. Like I'm sure we've all heard the story of how Sara Bareilles' Love Song came to be- that would never have happened with John, and while I also love Sara and Love Song is a proper bop, I have mad respect for someone who does it for himself.
Huge props to the girl who wanted to be a photographer and actually made it and got out of our shit town. You were so cool, and I hope you still are.
One of my friends was trans and committed suicide back in 9th grade. I had met them online in 6th grade and we clicked instantly. I always thought she was the coolest most understanding person. They came out to me just a few months before they took their life. I can't believe that was almost 8 years ago. I miss you Alexis
My friend a wound like that doesn't completely heal, but at least you know they were always loved
I’m so sorry for your loss.
I am so sorry for you loss.
for what it's worth, i witness this.
@homonculust I hope you have trouble sleeping at night, asshole. Whenever someone you love (if you care about anyone) dies, remember what hateful shit you decided to say about the death of someone you never knew.
It’s literally a tragedy that this song isn’t on Spotify, I desperately need it for a playlist :(
max random did a cover of it on analog man
well then you totally shouldnt find a yt to mp3 converter that would totally be wrong and not an easy/quick way to get a song onto spotify ;)
apparently from what i heard, john has only ever done live performances of this song and likes it being an unreleased live-only song. tho he said that he may end up releasing it officially in the studio.
I'm turning 30 in a few days. John Green mentioned this song in one of his videos, and it's the most appropriate thing for what I'm feeling right now.
I get way more of a Hank Green vibe from this
your comment was a year ago but i hope you had a lovely birthday
No matter how I word things I’m not satisfied. I really want to be pitied and cared for. Like, a lot. This song is how I want someone to feel about me. I do the most I can for everyone I know and I don’t get very much back. Being kind was something I hated about myself because it felt like I was everyone’s dog or something, like this happy puppy someone could kick and it’d come trotting back ready to get kicked again. Again, I really don’t think this wording is enough. But I’ve wrote this kind of comment so many times and I haven’t posted any. I always look down on people who write comments like this because it’s pitiful, but really I’m not better. If you read all this, thanks. Thank you for the time you’ve spent. Also I’m proud of you. I think people are starting to realize how hard living is. It’s really cool you’ve made it so far.
I know what you mean
It gets better
you deserve to have your pain and kindness acknowledged and I hope you find people who will do that for you, or that you find acknowledging it for yourself is enough.
I feel exactly this way
My heart goes out to you, I understand how you feel. It will get better eventually, I know it will. You will find people who appreciate you for who you are and who treat you with kindness just like you do with them. It'll be okay
I was sexually and emotionally abused by my high school boyfriend when we were fourteen. I have never forgotten. But I have come out the other side.
Keep your head up, life gets better.
With your heart still beating. Thats what counts, Keep on keeping on.
Keep kicking life in the ass.
I had the same thing happen with my high school girlfriend at the same age. I’m so glad to hear you’re still here and you made it out~
I'm really glad you did. Keep on keeping on, friend. Sending you good vibes
Tfw you search your mind for someone from the past to attach this song to and then it hits you, the songs about you.
Nah fam. Nobody thought i was cool or would be thinking about me now. I cant attach this to anyone but i dont need to. I like the idea of it.
Sadly.
@@probablynotsatan9440 the thing is a song like this is made for someone who will never hear it.
Fuck off narcissist
how dare you reveal that to me
He's a really good lyricist, and the line "It's good to be young/ but let's not kid ourselves" really seems like a good example of that to me. He has a really good way of getting to the point, not really getting all frilly and extra, but still making everything deeper than just surface level. "Let's not kid ourselves" draws attention to the fact the wanting to be a child forever is, well, childish, and using a saying that already inherently means "don't be childish" to do that, and connecting it into the "it's good to be young," is just really cool to me. Like, the first time I listened to it I didn't even see it, it was just "it's good to be young but don't be foolish" basically, and then after listening to this song probably 10 times, I've finally realized the deeper side of it. He doesn't push his lyrics to be roundabout and weird, you still get the meaning if you only take it at face value, but it's really cool to realize that a lot of what he sings isn't straight forward, and if you analyze it a bit deeper, you find these semi-hidden gems. I'm just rambling but it's super nice, I love this song
John Darnielle is probably the best non-rap lyricist around today. Go listen to his 'The Mess Inside', 'Going to Georgia' and 'Steal Smoked Fish'.
After listening to this song all through high school, it's so weird to be on the other side now, "having stared down demons and come back breathing."
if someone ever told me this song reminded them of me i think i'd start crying on the spot
I had a series of mental breakdowns towards the end of HS in 2014 and 2015. After a while I became recluse, and as of Feb 2020 I've barely gotten out of bed or spoken to anyone in years.
But you know somebody probably did think I was cool in highschool.
thatbeingsaid I know this doesn't mean too much, but good luck, truly. I hope it goes well for you.
I think you are very,very cool.
i hope things are getting easier for you, i’m glad you’re still here :)
i think you're cool. cooler than i ever could be because you made it out of high school and i know i won't
@@cynicismpiee hey man, i don’t know what your circumstances are but you Will get out the other side. i know you’re stronger than you think.
"I hope those painful memories only flex their power over you a little of the time". I love this lyric. it's so important to remember that while painful moments will always get to you, they don't need to take over your life
I don’t know what your real name was because you only ever signed your homework as Claudia Chaos, but this song makes me think of you every time. I bet you’re still cool.
When we were both in a really bad place, my best friend and I started dating. As I got better, I knew I wasn't really ready for a relationship, and I could tell he wasn't either. We just didn't want to be alone. But he would always degrade himself, and when I would go offline for days he'd say it was fine, though I knew it wasn't. He deserved better, so even though I knew it would hurt him, I broke up with him.
We don't talk anymore, but I still miss him sometimes. He was a fantastic friend. I hope he's doing well; and I hope that if he's in a relationship, that they're able to give him the attention and love he's always deserved. Because as much as I cared for him, I just couldn't.
Did you ever get closure
I'm glad you were mature enough to see what you both needed. Hope the pain won't be as sharp
❤️❤️❤️
I know it's been two years since you wrote this... but I'm on the other side of that right now I think.
My ex and I started dating right after a failed suicide attempt... It made him realize just how much he cared for me... It was good at first, we were good together, but he felt like he just couldn't give me what I deserved, because I needed him and he just didn't have the time for me.
I always told him it was okay and that I understand and I really was okay with it, but eventually he just left me.
He was my best friend and what hurt me most was that he just cut contact entirely.
I still write him letters for his birthdays and christmas, but I never get any reply.
He was absolutely amazing. The only person that ever made me feel wanted and like I could just be myself, like he just understood me.
I hope he's doing well...
This is so raw and genuine and vulnerable it would have been easy for him to choose never to release it...but I'm so glad he did.
Technically he hasn't, he only plays it live. This is a recording from a show at Carnegie Hall in 2013
Reading through the comments here, I hope all of you lovely souls are doing better, and I hope your friends are okay and you were able to get through to them in some way, you all deserve so much and I'm so proud of you all for coming this far! T omorrow will be better, it has to be ❤️
“John Darnielle losing it” is tha best part of every Mountain Goats song
When I was young I used to be really extroverted and sociable, but that all changed when I was bullied throughout elementary and junior high. Between that and being an only child it seems I have never really developed many healthy social skills. Now in high school I find my confidence to be outgoing almost nonexistent. I was lucky though, my parents supported me and I was able to change schools part way through junior high. Despite that I rarely had more than two close friends at a time and I have never been in a relationship. This weighs on me sometimes and I just feel alone.
Looking forward to coming out on the other side still breathing.
Good luck, buddy.
Keep breathing! It'll be worth it when you can look back and say you were right not to give up hope
Hang in there, friend.
Augustine I can relate a lot to this. I was also an only child, and I was bullied from elementary school through the beginning of high school. My parents let me change schools as well while I was in high school. Things got better for me, I hope they get better for you as well, if they already haven’t. I feel the past still haunts me at times, I often think people secretly think of me how my bullies thought of me, but for the most part I am okay. Having a few close friends is always going to be better than having a plethora of people that you’ll have to weed out eventually. You seem like such a nice person, I hope you find someone that reminds you of that, and how you didn’t deserve the ill treatment from others growing up.
If it at all helps, you're far from alone in your struggle.
I sent this song to a friend of mine 2 weeks ago. She passed yesterday tho. I just keep listening to it now
I'm so sorry...
after years of therapy i realized i have trauma because of highschool. People were mean, even if i had friends, most people would always mock me, throw things at me, pretend to be nice and then cutting off the act. Still today i can't pass a group of teenagers without getting scared, or even people in general, unconsciously thinking they may harm me, for what i could make out in therapy. Sometimes i cry listening to this, wishing that someone that i met back in highschool hopefully thinks this way about me.
You deserved better than you got (someone’s got to say it sometime *cuz it’s true*)
this song reminded me of my old highschool best friend who was exiled from my friend group over a series of misunderstandings. no one in the group but me really missed her. I hope she's doing okay.
this song is so precious to me. i don't have anyone to connect this to me except for myself- especially middle school me. those were the shittiest years of my life and this song helped me get through it, helped show me that there was always something better on the other side. you just have to get through the shitty part first.
I can't wait to be out of high school and "come out the other side"
Me too. Also is that a home made emoji hat in your pfp?
@@luckeep1370 It's actually a puyo puyo hat I bought on Etsy!
@@Emily-ci6vc oh, well it's very cute :>
@@luckeep1370 thanks!
I’m in college and it still feels like i haven’t come out the other side
This song always makes me really appreciate the genuinely nice things people have said even if the negatives feel like they outweigh the positive.
I went to see them in Amsterdam a few days ago. The middle section of the gig was just John and his guitar. As is usual this song got a lot shout outs from the audience and he decided he'd play it. He said it wasn't a song he liked to play live often because it was deeply personal and that when he'd written it it was meant as a song for him but the internet changed that. He then asked that he be allowed to sing it on his own so he could achieve the right emotional space to do the song justice (I'm paraphrasing, BTW, I was in Amsterdam and my ability to recall the exact words may have been a little impaired). Anyway, in a crowded Paradiso, everyone except the man on stage was stone silent and he sang his heart out.
Absolutely one of my best gig moments ever.
They played a number of absolute favourites and ended with a rip roaring full band rendition of Best ever Death Metal Band Out Of Denton, which was awesome.
You Were Cool, though, was the highlight and the beating heart of the whole gig for me.
I love Mountain Goats. Their music always sounds like you're peering into someone's diary. Very personal and raw..
"people were mean to you but i always thought you were cool'' that shit hurt so hard to hear
I just broke down.... Screw you, John, you beautiful genius back-starred! Asia always I love The Mountain Goats!!! Never retire
"I hope the painful memories only flex their power over you a little of the time."
Getting there.
I decided to listen to the song on the swings and i am glad i did. I started crying half way through. This is what i needed to hear even if it wasnt for me
Sitting in my car right now listening to this, also started crying halfway through. Jinx
I used to know someone in highschool. She wore big platform boots and colored wigs. I looked up to her so much. So purely and genuinely smart, kind, and humble. I guess she didn't grow up well, and I know people she trusted were always hurting her. She killed herself. I'll never forget her, I looked up to her so much
"we held onto hope of better days coming, and when we did we were right"
this one goes out to you, to me, and to all of us. thank you for being here kiefer and chloe and tyler, and i can't wait for you to be here again nick and ella. i miss you guys, i love you both. here's to better days 💚
I'm here because of John Green. I hold onto hope that better days will come for him.
I hope all of my old high school classmates hear this. Teen days are rough
God,whenever i hear this song I always think of my middle school self, a child who deserved more then they got, a child who was hurt,bullied, and abused.a child who tried so hard to fit in and make friends. A child who had to grow up too fast due to the recklessness of the idiot adults around them.
I honestly feel sorry for that child, for what they missed out on, and I honestly wish younger me could've had someone like current me in their life to help them.
Same. I hope your life is better now.
@@maisierosesIts getting there,been freed from a major part of the issue.i hope yours is better now as well
This song sounds like a caring friend reminding you you didn’t deserve the mistreatment you’ve endured.. realizing those memories will always affect you.. but hoping the majority of the time you’re still able to feel okay. Hoping those people feel guilt for ruining your view of reality and reshaping your whole world, making you expect the same treatment from everyone you encounter afterwards, a burn that will always burn.
It hurts especially because I know the pain of it. This song is a great comfort.
What an amazing song. To all those struggling in the comment section: know that you are loved! And that staring down your demons will be hard work, and it will suck, but *you can do it.*
And to all those maybe not struggling as much: I think a big part of the song, and the singer’s, pain is that he DIDN’T tell the subject that they were cool. He clearly regrets his inaction, which is why he’s hurting so much. So if you see someone who’s struggling, or going through a tough time, reach out to them. Give them a compliment. Ask how they’re doing. It’s not your job to fix their problems, but showing that you care can help be a light in their darkness. Don’t wait to tell them that they’re cool. Do it now. :)
Thank you John Green
Change it to "paddling down the concrete halls in your cheap shoes" and that's my memory right there. We dated two years. My mom died. I found drugs. We broke up. She never found anybody I hear. I've always regretted what happened.
you could go back to her.
@@peachibread1983 Not always an option.
@@rkt739 that's only if you never try.
@@peachibread1983 oh yeah, what if she's dead? What if he's married?
@@rkt739 i was just going off the information he gave.
I think that was one of the sweetest, most honest songs I ever heard ♥️
my queerplatonic partner said this song reminds him of us so im here listening to it now :) i met him in highschool but we're both in our first year of college now and i hope we continue to stay in touch! she's really special to me. idk i just wanted to put this out here ^^ even tho this isnt on spotify i think being an unreleased song makes it all the more emotional and impactful to listen to
I've come out the other side and let me tell you, it feels great to be able to breath again.
All you beautiful souls, just keep your hearts beating and some day you'll take in a lungfull of fresh air once again. 'Till then, hold on.
For the vast majority of us, high school is a battle for conformity, wearing the right clothes, listening to the right music, smoking pot, drinking beer even though you hate the taste, fighting not for your pride but just to not look like a weak chump. Constantly striving, not to be anything amazing or to be the coolest kid on the block, but just to keep your position. And there are always the outcasts, for whatever idiotic trivial reasons barred from ever being socially acceptable. And your friend from elementary school is one of them (a nerd who likes Magic and wears old faded jeans that are a bit too tight because that's all he has to wear because he's also poor) and the best you can do is hang out with him when no one's looking and be silent and ignore it when people badmouth him or he's getting bullied or publicly mocked, because you're certain it isn't in your power to fix it or change it and you absolutely fear the possibility of ending up in the same boat as him. Then you graduate and maybe for a few years you see a few of them, but it all winds down and eventually maybe there's one or two you see every so often, and did any of that really matter anyway? And now I think back to those days and really regret those dark moments but still don't see any way I could have done anything to change the situation he lived through and anyway he's long gone, far beyond being helped or hurt by anyone or for my apology to mean anything.
this is so relatable it hurts
This makes me think me, brother, and my mother. We’ve gone through so much and even when I’m mad at them or I felt or feel like I hate them, I love them. We can be frustrating to each other and we have a lot of scars that haven’t fully healed but we survived. We are tough motherfuckers. I forget that sometimes.
Damn this song is gonna make me a lot nicer to people I really hope I can change some people’s lives
One of the worse thing about bullyng, is that sometimes people who get bullied are the nice sensible people, bullyng is a bitch and every bully that is reading this, I forgive you, but you gotta payback and treat people as nice as you can
I really wish he'd give in and do a studio recording. He probably won't.
I want to write the response song to this in which the person says they'd always considered themselves cool and had no idea they were being bullied in high school. This is literally the first they're hearing of it, and they're shocked. "I always thought people liked me, which is why they kidded me so much. So now you're saying I was UNpopular? Well, sh*t. This kind of ruins my day."
I love that! Go for it, friend!
actual story of my life.
I remember you. I don't know where you are right now. There is absoloutely nothing I wouldn't give to see you again. I still have the flower you gave me. A dandelion. It's withered and dry now. But I see it and think of you. I remember the braid you always loved. A french-fishtail combination that you created yourself. I remember when you did it on my hair when it wasn't brushed and we spent the whole night laughing and trying to get the huge knot out. I remember when Skylar said I was ugly and you stood up for me. You said I was very pretty and she was just jealous. I don't love anything the way I loved you. Your beautiful eyes, your glowing smile. I'm so sorry. That last time we spoke, I didn't say goodbye. I didn't even tell you I was moving to another state. I couldn't bare to see your face. I was a coward. I should've told you. The next time you see me, if you ever do, you would slap me. I deserve it. I remember when we walked home together in the rain. My hair was soaked and you let me use one of your towels to dry off. I miss you more than you will ever know. I would die a thousand deaths if it meant I could spend one more afternoon with you. You deserve everything and so much more, Juliana.
-molly
I'm sorry about your situation. I hope you figure it all out.
ITS MY MENTAL BREAKDOWN AND I GET TO PICK THE MUSIC!
When I hear this song I think of one of my best friends, she wasnt scared to be herself and not conform to the rest of the school, she got bullied a lot for this and was also homeless/not had the best home life...especially compared to some of the rich kids at our school. She's doing a lot better now and I still think she's coolest person I know
Tell her ! 😆
This song is beyond beautiful I just can´t...
This is genuinely one of the most beautiful songs ever written, it's simple and that's the point it's a honest song with nothing to distract from the point
This song will forever bring me to shuddering tears thinking of the brutal murder of my high school ex-girlfriend. I'm an absolute wreck afterwards, but it's cathartic enough to be worth it every single time. Thank you John.
I keep a list of my favorite quotes and lyrics, and
"We held onto hope of better days coming, and when we did we were right"
is right at the top.
The Mountain Goat has some nice songs, funny, dark, sweet, pretty neat.
Man we should get more platonic caring songs!! I'm not the type to dislike modern music, but some older songs just have a *vibe*
My best friend who I met in high school sent this to me years later. It always makes me cry. I love him so much.
one of my favorite mountain goats song after 7 years
This song means the world to me. Thank you.
To all my fellow school bullied bros and sisters. We are awesome because we are different.
Thanks :) u2
Gay
Black
amen
No you are awesome because you are awesome , in my eyes everyone is equal because they always come in second place after myself and that's all.
i’m so proud of all of you. you made it. and i’m sorry for those of you that didn’t. rest easy now
Life pro tip: play this for your inner child
Kinda reminds me of the MC in the show Patriot. He sings folk songs alone in the park or in a room full of people. He sings for himself, trying to work through the pain of his life.
I like a lot of different Mountain Goats songs for a lot of different reasons, but not usually because they make me cry. This song makes me cry.
we held on to hope of better days coming
and when we did we were right.
i hope the people that did you wrong have
trouble sleeping at night.
I turned 16 a few months ago, in early october. I'm midway through my sophmore year, now. I hope I can make it out the other side still breathing
So many lines that I can’t stop thinking about
It’s too little to write a comment on CZcams but it’s better than nothing, so... Tyler I’m sorry I wasn’t there for you when you needed me most buddy. You were always so much cooler than me. Rest easy.
this song got me through a rough patch where i was being bullied and had false rumours spread about me, honestly helped me to pick myself back up
I got through school by dropping out.
Not to be a downer, but you dropping out isn't getting through school. But regardless, I hope that you ended up in a better place afterward.
Sometimes the best way to survive really is to remove yourself from your situation or circumstances. Only you know whats best for you.
I did the same thing. Don't ever let other people try to pit you down for it.
If I could go back in time and play this for my middle school and high school self I would. I’m so much better now.
Those first few lines are so relatable as a songwriter
How I wish this was on Spotify
Holy fuck the emotion in this guys voice u know he aint joking which just makes it sadder
Cool, this actually helped with my unaddressed social anxiety from high school. Thanks!
I'm here because of everyone's hard week in particular John's.
I love how you can tell he's just having so much fun through the entire song
I’m not kidding when I say this, but I think I have depression. I’ve been so unmotivated and sad for the past two months and I lash out at my parents for no reason even though I love them. I’m on the verge of tear everyday and I don’t even know why. I’m so scared
Have you talked with anyone about it? I know that reaching out can seem daunting, especially when one is already in the throes of mental illness, but it honestly is the first step towards improving your mental health overall. You may have spurts where you struggle with mental illness for days, weeks, or even months at a time, but coming from someone who's been at odds with their depression and anxiety for the past several months, who has experienced days where everything seems to be filtered through a soupy, seemingly meaningless haze, believe me when I say it gets better. The only way to make it through hell is to keep dragging your boots through the fire, unbearable as it may be at times. But happiness will return, eventually- first in short bursts, then in longer intervals, until mental wellbeing is a state of mind that is only intruded upon occasionally by the harbingers of mental illness. Eating healthily, exercising, going outside, breathing exercises, grounding skills, etc., although seemingly cliche practices, all genuinely help to improve one's overall mental wellbeing (that is, if one is in a place where they can habitually engage in said practices without too much exhaustion). Most importantly, however, know that you can make it to the other side. I believe you will. I know you will.
GRAND SUBURBIA same for me but its been about a year and a half. Has not gotten any better, i was basically forced to do things. Never lashed out at my family, except siblings and yea that made me feel bad. My parents would slap the shit out of me tho. Anyway I’m still undiagnosed but i might have it and so might you
@@demifolk8940 go see someone about your parents!! haven't heard much abt your situation but that could be classified as abuse!!
-destryinaraincoat- They havent hit me since i was young. Which was definitely abuse. Now my mom mostly does manipulation and emotional torment. Im an adult now tho so no one can really do anything except myself. Too depressed to do anything tho since its only gotten worse since the 7 months i left that comment.
Anxiety and depression are common, I got diagnosed a few months ago, you know yourself, you’re probably right :)
This song gives me such feels.
Hearing this song again after the suicide of a close friend. I will never understand. It will never get better. I miss you so much.
This makes me think of a punk kid in my small town
Still think u were rad dude
My favourite mountain goats lyrics: And I'd hope that if I found the strength to walk out
You'd stay the hell out of my way, When you came in I could breathe again and People were mean to you but I always thought you were cool.