I audited a Chris Cox clinic. Here are my thoughts.
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- I share my recent trip to Temecula, CA to audit a horse clinic by Chris Cox, famed Western horse trainer and clinician.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Ready to hit the road!
0:34 Checking on Fame
0:59 Road trip!
1:28 Headed to the clinic
2:10 Why is Chris Cox a big deal?
2:45 How are the clinics structured?
3:37 Talking time vs Demo time?
4:13 Teaching style
5:22 Who attends?
6:16 Common mistakes & issues
7:38 Priorities & philosophies
9:28 My biggest takeaways
10:40 For whom is this clinic best suited?
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I've been to many of Chris's clinics in Mineral Wells, Texas some years ago. Chris is without a doubt the very best horseman of this generation. His clinics a very challenging and extremely rewarding. Chris is not only an exceptional horseman he is truly a great teacher. If you own a horse attending his beginning clinic will open up a world you can share with your horse that you didn't know existed. In my humble opinion it is the very best investment is knowledge and safety there is. Hi Chris!
I did vet work on his horses many years back, wonderful person 🤗
How cool! That's wonderful to hear!
I saw Chris at the Midwest Horse Fair 4 or 5 yrs ago. He worked on loading a hard to load horse & took a little over an hour to start an unbroke colt & was able to ride it a lope outsude of the round pen.
He also gave me the best advise on a really pushy colt during autograph signing.
He really is an amazing horseman & a very kind, decent human being.
Sounds like you had a wonderful experience. How great you were able to get some firsthand advice! Thanks for sharing!
There are a lot of egos in the horse industry, and the only way to learn new and perhaps better ideas is to leave your egos at home. And, by the way, you are a great presenter,
Just stumbled on this and I want to thank you - very well constructed video - nice job!
Came here looking for Chris Cox info on the advice of my trainer but really glad I found your channel because .. great content!!
Thank you for this video. You are a very intelligent young lady. Keep the videos coming. 😀
I’ve known about him through the cutting horse industry, but never paid much attention as a clinician.. I had a question yesterday, and I was blown away by the simplicity in the answers he gave. Thank you for making this video.
An excellent informative vlog !!!! You did a great job !!!!
I think he is one of the best horseman ever,would give anything to go to one of his seminars
I am forever grateful that Chris Cox was the first Natural Horsemanship Trainer I had ever seen way back in 2006. Most of these others, I probably would have dismissed the whole method as smoke, mirrors, and baloney. I grew up around racehorses, and had been a professional racehorse trainer for 30+ years at the time. I picked up on the theories right away, but his methods were so much more efficient and effective. I made it my mission to learn as much as I could about the methods, had the opportunity to use them on many different horses, and gained a reputation around the racetrack for "reprogramming" difficult hard to handle horses. I wish he would come back to the East Coast, specifically FL where I now live. Would love to take my 9 yr old riding horse that I've trained from a weanling using his methods to one of his clinics. Hey Chris, I'm only an hour away from WEC in Ocala! How about it?
Great info 👍
I rode in one of his clinics back in 2002 I think in Warrenton VA. Was a great weekend and well worth the price
I have been following Chris Cox for years & was fortunate enough to see him win Road to the Horse (for the 3rd time) in 2015.
He's still a student of the horse & is good at reminding us why we got interested in them as well.
What a neat opportunity to see that in person! Love that last line, thanks for sharing! ❤️
This is a much needed video. I appreciate you doing this, and especially hitting the facts that you need to let the horse stop and soak and think about what happened, not all horses can process the situation and instantly move on. You have the stop and give them time to let it sink in, I am also very thankful you took the time to mention tack. No amount of tack or the next fad, will ever fix a rider error. Bravo.
I'm so glad you enjoyed this video! Yes, there were so many gems he shared; great to hear someone at his level reinforcing these ideas. Thanks for your comment!
@@HappieronaHorse You're most welcome!
Chris is one of the best horseman in the industry in my opinion. He has an ability to quickly determine what the problem is and the level you are at. He will keep you safe! He is very straightforward, so dont wear your feelings on your shoulder, because he is going to help you learn and advance.
Yes, well put. Very bottom line guy, definitely wanted to help folks develop their horsemanship. Thanks for your comment!
Seriously best advice I’ve read here. Horsemanship has no room for emotion. Horses don’t care about emotion they care about what you do.
It would be interesting to see you putting into practice some of the things you are taking away from this clinic.
Great idea, thank you!
I love your videos, they look really professional🌷
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that. 🤠
I like your videos and I like your horse Nannette
Chris Cox is a friend of mine, he put on clinics at our old place in Washington state and had a tremendous impact on me, my horsemanship and outlook on life. I got the FIRST High Five form him at his RTTH win in 2012!~
How cool is that! 🤠🙌🏼
I was on the white draft type mustang in the clinic
New subscriber-really enjoying your videos! Planning to move to So Cal in summer. Maybe Granada Hills. Where do you trail ride?
Very cool! I'm based in the San Francisco Bay Area. I'm still learning that area but it seems like there are pockets of horse folks congregated around the major parks. Best of luck with your move! Thanks for subscribing!
You hit it on the head! Most issues are rider based not the horse. Very good to see the difference yourself 😀
Yes it was mind blowing to watch how dramatic the difference was. 🤯😜
When I first started training horses this used to confuse me so much! I would get a horse in that had an issue and I would get on them and there was no problem and I would be like "how am I supposed to fix a problem with a horse that doesn't have a problem?". It wasn't until I gained a little more maturity that I realized the horse wasn't the problem.
You have to be careful about how you address these situations though because most people don't take it well if you just come out and say "it's not the horse".
Raymond Chen a famous engineer at Microsoft talked about dealing with users like this that were having computer problems when he was young and he said most times it was a reboot issue and the user hadn't done it or hadn't plugged in the computer properly or something really mundane like that. He learned that instead of saying stuff like "you forgot to plug it in you dummy" that if he simply told the user that if you unplug it and blow the dust off the end of the cord and plug it back in it would probably fix the issue...and most of the time it did.
I found I had to adjust my training approach to also teach the owner or the horse would just be back later with the same or worse problems.
Chris Cox his a good horse trainer He also good a teaching people how to train the horse well worth the money to go and see Chris Cox. The thing he point out what to look for you would over look them if they not pointer to you.
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Thanks for this! Great job reviewing a clinic. I've never been to one so it is good to know what goes on. Is this a pretty typical structure for a clinic? I would love to audit Buck Brannaman!
Everyone runs their clinics a little differently. Glad you enjoyed it!
I like your video Nannette and I
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Love good horsemanship education XD
Yesss 🤠
I have been developing as a Horseman for years-(67 now)-taught many people and put on clinics-the only males I have ever taught are my Grandsons-I have only taught women in my business-many men have asked how I am able to do the things I do saddled and bareback-none will allow me teach them-wish someone like Chris was around to teach me when I was younger-but I never gave up and in the end my style is very much like his
Tim - how wonderful you’ve had so many years to develop your skills (and teach your grandsons!). Such a shame it’s been women students only and not men. Those guys missed out! And so interesting yours and Chris’ path have come to similar places. Please keep up your contributions to the horse community, we need folks with your experience. 👍🏼🤠
Looks like like fun. Never been to anything like this but I stayed with some Mongolian herdsmen. Those fellas would go into a herd of wild steppe horses or camels and lasso one. They'd throw it to the ground and drive a peg thru the nostrils and connect a rope. They'd hop on bareback on these wild critters and ride them away from their herd. It was amazing to see these guys make these wild horses and camels work and become rideable and they did it with nothing but rope and a wooden peg thru the nose. Truly old school.
Dang! 😳
Ouch...peg thru the nose.
87! Good, that means I have 20 more years.....at least.
Horse folks are awesome at any age!
Have you ever audited a Warwick Schiller clinic and if so what did you think of it?
I'm eagerly awaiting the chance to! I've subscribed to his video library and it's helping me immensely. I'm learning a lot about reading and responding to subtleties in body language from him. Would be awesome to be able to do a video on a WS clinic this year. 👍🏼
@@HappieronaHorse He has a clinic coming up in Arizona that you could audit if you have time. I have known him for a lot of years and have been a subscriber to his video site since he first started doing it. Both my boys have been to his clinics two or so years ago as watchers not as participants. They are both in college out on the west coast and they both said it was really good and they would go again in a heart beat if he does another clinic near where they are going to school. Myself I have never been to one of his clinics but I would really really really like to go. He and Ross Jacobs have both influenced how I train probably quite a bit more than the other trainers I study.
@@AndyTheCornbread I saw Warwick a few years back & he is exactly the same in person as what you see on his videos. I too have learned a lot from him, about being aware of & managing my & my horse's emotions.
@@dianeyates8524 I have spoken with him and his wife via email and chat etc. and they both strike me as very genuine people but unfortunately because I have livestock I can't get to one of his clinics unless he holds it here in Montana because I still have to feed cows, care for the horses and so on. I have told him already many times that anywhere in Montana or even the very east side of Idaho I will come see him because I can get a friend to care for stock for a day or so but I can't make it any further than that. So I watch his clinics page like a hawk every year :) Robyn said they are really wanting to come do one in Montana so maybe this will be the year? I am crossing my fingers and praying :)
Warwick and Robyn are very real down to earth people. Been to 2 clinics in Hollister,Ca. It’s amazing and the method if follow works.
Was this clinic pre=Covid?
The reason i ask is that here in Maryland we are required to wear a mask in gatherings of people larger than 5. It is interesting how each state is handling this pandemic. It just struck me as odd that no one had a mask on. I think Chis Cox is a competent horseman. I saw him a couple of times when he came to the Expo here in Maryland. I like him better than some of the others out there. People get sooo hung up on bits. The reality is that your horse needs you to communicate in a clear and understandable way. You can do that with a plain ole snaffle bit that fits correctly. You don't "control" a horse with a bit, you communicate with your horse thru the bit. The communication can be finer with a bit than with a sidepull or any other bitless bridle but your horse's response comes from training, not the "right" bit. A bit is just a tool and you have to find the one that works the best for you and your horse with the least amount of force.
Bits are such a controversial topic, quite frustrating to me too! Agreed, there's so much more to it than just control, love your point about communication vs control.
I've seen a lot of these "natural horsemanship" types in person. If I remember correctly Chris Cox is the only one who didn't come off as if he would take the horse out behind and beat it.
That said I don't think rushing starting a horse under saddle is admirable and I think you need to be careful with this type of trainer because it may not always be in the horses best interest because humans aren't horses.
There are a decent amount of "Natural Horsemanship" practitioners that are great. Chris Cox, Warwick Schiller, Dennis Reis, and Jack Brainard are a few that I follow closely. Natural Horsemanship is less of a program and more of a philosophy of teaching a horse by communicating with them how other horses would. Mainly by accurate release of pressure utilizing correct angles/geometry with an emphasis on softness. The differences are the training methods used and there are some Natural Horsemanship trainers who I personally don't think have much empathy for the horse or have their best interests at heart.
On the subject of rushing the starting of a horse, just because it's fast doesn't mean it's rushed. Horses are extremely perceptive and aware of the tiniest details. Generally speaking, the limit to how fast horses can learn is the Human. The vast majority can learn very quickly and it's the job of the human to also work with and train the horses emotional state. Someone like Chris Cox is so in tune with the horse that they can communicate closer to their level of awareness which is why they can make so much progress in 72 hours. That being said, it's competition and is not a reflection of how he normally teaches horses or how he teaches other people.
why am I not surprised its women who are seeking answers to their questions from other ppl...
Can anyone please recommend any other channels like Stephanie's? I really love this channel but it hasn't got very many videos just yet, so soon I will have seen them all. I love this type of horsey content. And I'm not asking for recommendations with any of these specifics I'm about to go on about. Just any good horsey channel recommendations please!
But I especially love watching stuff like this of down to earth horsey people, especially strong women out there living the dream, trucking and riding and caring for their own horse and sharing it all with us. I love watching ALL of it, every aspect of horse ownership.
My dream is to do what Stephanie does basically. Be a horse owner again one day. But would have to use stable facilities like her and truck to riding destinations and would have to do alot of the work all on my own. Being the only horse person in my family.
So seeing just every day people not necessarily people with multi million dollar stables and horses and high level competing and all that, (which is alot of what I get when just searching horsey content on here) honestly standards unattainable for the average horse loving girl who sees what Stephanie is doing as her more realistic dream for the future, so love seeing every day people who own like one horse and are actually out there living and doing my dream, showing how it is doable, strong women showing all aspects to non billionaire horse ownership and good kind riding in the modern world of right now, my true dream of horse ownership.
Please any recommendations of inspirational chanels like this for me to watch while I work towards this dream life goal.