Insecure: Wine Down with Issa Rae and Prentice Penny | Inside The Episode (S4 E6) | HBO
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- Issa Rae and Prentice Penny unpack Issa’s mindset after her fight with Molly at the block party. #HBO #InsecureHBO
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Insecure: Wine Down with Issa Rae and Prentice Penny | Inside The Episode (S4 E6) | HBO
When her mum called her over and hugged her. Momma knows Chile...😩
That made me cry too. Momma does know. 😥
I know INSECURE is entertaining but the way they tackle our everyday struggles whew🔥
Right. I feel that only black writers/producers can capture the authenticity of everyday struggle;personal and professional.
I be feeling like Issa is me
Yesssss They do an amazing job tackling everyday issues. Totally relatable.
4real!!!!!!
I love how she asks the questions like she doesn’t know what happens
This episode was very real. It shows how most adult friendships end. I do think they will reconcile their friendship but in real life most ppl just leave it like that. This episode also shows how hard it is to make new friendships as an adult. It showed how trying to be nice to ppl and most are ungrateful or want too much. That pregnant woman at the store. How are you asking for help for stuff that's 150 dollars lol, smh.
I definitely agree. The girls at the paint and sip played her! I hope that Issa's character isn't too jaded in the future from trying to make new friends, or do good deeds.
Also how easy it is to get stuck in unhealthy adult friendships because it’s so hard to make friends as an adult. It was easier for Issa to distance herself from Molly at the beginning of the season because of her budding friendship with Condola. When Condola ghosted her she had no choice but to regress back into that friendship with Molly even though she really didn’t want to.
I was just talking about this yesterday..especially the part where it’s hard to cultivate new meaningful friendships after 30!!!
Autumn Sunsets That’s true! It’s the “No New Friends” culture..but what most people fail to realize is that a stranger will support you quicker than a friend in some instances. I’m anxious to see how Tiffany’s situation plays out..the only one that seems to notice that something isn’t right, is Kelli.
The episode was so accurate. The way we operate as individuals is crazy.
How do people complain it was filler episode yet find themselves here with long a** comments about the episode? 😆
THIS! Girl the new generation ain't used to content without tons of theatrics and over the top dialogue.
I’m predicting that Molly was on her phone reminiscing over moments with Issa or attempting to reach out. I could be wayyyy off, naive, very hopeful or all three but we shall see 😂
I’m so over the pride between these two. Issa going to therapy next season too...write that in y’all...no charge lol
😊😊😊😊😊
I second the therapy in next season
I think maybe Issa and Molly will go to couples counseling. (It's not just for romantic partners!)
Naw she was talking to Andrew lol
No Molly is a narcissist. She was looking at a nasty pic of Asian Bae.
I literally wait for the wine down like it’s an episode ...well done y’all
This episode was sooooo hilarious....watch it if you haven’t. The George and Issa D scene is epic! Issa did a great job carrying this episode by herself, and seeing Kelly in serious mode was great also. I low key love Kelly!!
I don't think Issa and Molly will discuss their heated argument until episode 9 and they won't resolve anything this season. The writing was on the wall since season 1. Molly recently made amends with her colleagues, her family and Andrew - Issa will not get the same energy. Issa will go through a solo season and invest in herself. Tiffany and Kelli will keep us (the audience) in the know of what's happening in both of the ladies' lives, but unlike Tiffany and Kelly's rift, Issa and Molly are done (for now).
Glad to see that someone else is thinking that they won't talk until episode 9. Then my question is: what happens in the meantime? Molly and Andrew go away for a wedding and then...even if it might be necessary it will be strange to have those two not talking to each other
Every season ends at the eighth episode
@@joyuyino1342 Nevertheless this season has 10 episodes.
joy uyino no this year ! This season is going to be 10 episode 🙂
Whoa! That's good to know 😊
I loved this episode!! Issa needs to love doing her own thing more often but knowing who to rely on is nice and being punished for that isn't it. Her convo with her mom was ESSENTIAL and hilarious!! Cmon MOLLY! Hopefully they makeup soon.
When Issa knocked that girl over the head with the painting, I was worried about Issa's well being. When I realized it was a day dream...I was disappointed. But it was for the best.
All three of those girls needed a beat down. They essentially robbed her. 😡
@@hereforit2347 For sure they needed a beat down, no doubt. But I don't want the show to to become orange is the new black with Issa D locked up. And plus her character is already going through so much.
I don't think of the Issa character as aggressive, but I think if Molly swung on her, she would have handled her business, especially with all the stress she was under.
Agreed. I think she would’ve taken out her frustrations on Molly if they fought. But Molly from the hood too, so. LoL!
I love how Issa spent her day trying to prove that she isn’t a user. Very good writing
Love love LOVE this show! There's so many similarities I have with Issa and I've had a few Molly's that I needed to part with. Basically when you're the insecure black girl in any group there's comfort in everyone's roles. As soon as Issa stepped out of her awkwardness and became what everyone says she needs to be, THEY get awkward with her newness. Not a single one of her friends believed in her but that's the role she let continue. It's hard to stay in the same dynamics when you're not the same. Seasonal friends for sure. Let Lawrence be your best friend girl!!! Black couple unite!!
I was here for it until you mentioned Lawrence. The version of Issa that was with Lawrence would have never pushed herself to do this block party.
@@sheltondaal6425 I totally agree, just like Lawrence would have never got a job and stepped up unless he left her. But why should some other woman benefit from her being there for him and supporting him for 5 years? Why should Issa try and find another man and start over when they're both clearly still in love with one another. I don't know why couples feel like they can't glow up separate and return with love and respect for each other... I think it would be a great testament to maturity and black love...
Seasonal or reasonal 👌🏾
I'm in my fifties and I really love the stories you're telling. I connect to them.
This episode was definitely a cool off episode
I love how Issa said energy boost cause it’s true we get energy boosts from others we interact with, and how Penny said is the friendship seasonal or reasonable! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 Ok now!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 🗣🗣🗣
Even though what the out-of-town women did was triflin' , it's what they said to Issa that was the gem.
The women allowed her the verbally express what she does for a living and gave her much needed praise!
This was quiter but most impactful. My best so far in this season. It really reached me.
agreed! powerful!!
I saw a few significant moments for Issa. Issa's deeds, Mom/Daughter moment, Paint/Sip/Restaurant, standing/dancing in her apt, and when she saw Molly. Those moments showed Issa reclaiming her power. But it also showed life's reality. Things happen...make lemonade and continue being positive. She was dealing with each moments accordingly. Also the soundtrack, Young Baby Tate (That Girl), and Baby Rose (Pressure), both powerful and significant to Issa's new direction with herself and Molly's relationships ❤
These need to be longer and more detailed.
I hope this is NOT the end of Issa and Molly friendship. But I have a feeling it will be until something goes wrong with Molly‘s relationship
Yes, that's what it will take for Molly to feel the loss of Issa!
I love this show, and I love even more that actress Issa Rae keeps her private life private.
I love when she went to her moms house! So relatable 💜
I hope they don't do that thing that they always do in shows where both parties apologize like they both were in the wrong. Up to the previous episode Issa was being careless but Molly was terrible after that day so Molly should reach out and apologize.
Also Issa is making the cultural curator thing her profession. Could Issa go down to Molly's place of business and cause that same type of scene? No. Molly doesn't take Issa seriously.
Also this episode was funny AF
What bothers me about Molly is that because she is in love, she acts like she doesn’t need Issa. She looked so pleased with herself at that bar.
Maybe she went there bc it reminisced her Issa when everything was good
Issa been threw Molly away for Condola. But nobody seems to remember this.
loveandlight but she didn’t throw Molly away
Haryel based on her facial expression I def do not think that was the case. I wouldn’t give Molly that much credit!
Yall dont even be drinking the wine
😂😂😂
People are calling this episode a “filler”, but it was the best-written episode so far this season.
I’ve been an Issa ALL my life! I feel you and yup, Lowkey done!
Directed by Lacey Duke!! Yayyy!!! Go off!!
This episode was 🔥🔥🔥
molly could be at the restaurant in hopes that she would bump into issa 🤷🏾
I just love Issa!! I definitely could relate to Issa because I’ve been in similar situations with my best friend! Funny episode and very real!
Molly is no longer single, she's not thinking about Issa.
I wonder if Molly will tell Andrew that Issa asked for the favor but she said no which made her go through Nathan.
Not sure when it’ll happen but I foresee Issa finally owning her sit in this and it will be in a major way. Way bigger than the Issa stans will be willing to accept. I can be wrong but I haven’t been off yet. The wine downs always provide confirmation.
What do you mean? Do you think she should concede to Molly? Also, does Molly hold any responsibility in the mess that is their friendship?
It’s never been about absorbing Molly from her responsibility. Unlike Issa, Molly has always been opened to hashing it out. Unlike Issa, Molly didn’t unfriend her when things go distant. Lol ppl are so blinded by the likes or traits of Issa that they can’t she exactly what she’s responsible for. Issa removed the opportunity for reconciliation. Issa unfriended Molly, without telling her, because Molly set a boundary. They both have contributions but Issa is mainly responsible for their friendship ending. Friendships have issues.. that’s to be expected. But quitting/ ending them... when it’s not mutual there’s someone to look to... and bc of Issa’s decisions and behavior I hold her responsible, specifically for it ending.. but the creation of tension is shared.
C’Yo - Create Your Own
Molly was not always open to hashing things out. Watch the episode where they go visit Tiffany again. Issa was being cool, let Molly take her spot, and talked to her with the rest of the girls and Molly kept reacting badly to everything she said.
And then Molly used that opportunity to jump to conclusions about Issa and Lawrence and talk badly about her to Tiffany.
Also Issa was the only one reaching out after the We Got Y’all fight that Molly started because she was mad that Issa encouraged her to go to therapy. Molly kept pushing her away.
I don’t think anyone has been excusing Issa’s behavior since she was heavily criticized for ditching Molly on Thanksgiving. But I do see Molly stans refusing to hold her accountable for her own behavior and her own self importance. That’s one thing she and Issa have in common. The only difference is that Issa doesn’t show out when she doesn’t get her way or when something isn’t about her.
Remember, Molly is constantly starting fights and drawing attention to herself at public events (We Got Y’all fundraiser, her parent’s anniversary, Issa’s mixer, AND the block party.)
C’Yo - Create Your Own big facts! She has been trying for months and Issa keeps avoiding
MartianBlues lol Molly is identifying her issues and trying to change by going to therapy. Issa is selfish and non confrontational. They need to talk ASAP and she won’t allow it. They’re both at fault but Issa is not willing to talk while Molly keeps trying to.
She makes me feel like I can do anything
Moms always know💕
Prentice your shirt is fire man !
Where. Is. Daniel?
I miss His Sexiness Almost-Bae Daniel wheew
I thought be would come back during the block party because music is his thing but honestly I don't miss him too much.
Making beats.
He's not coming back. You could tell by his last scene with Issa. They finished his story and Issa moving on to people who will grow while Daniel is stubborn and stuck pulling himself down
@@DistinctlyMeFilms It would have been good though if we had seen Issa almost reach out to him after she lost her headliner, since he has connections in the music business, but then she thinks better of it because she doesn't want to reopen that can of worms.
Love this show
My mind wonders is Issa friendship in real life with the real Molly ..did these events happen and are they still cool to this day
Yvonne Orji said in an interview once that there is a real woman that Issa based Molly on and Issa introduced them. The two of them hit it off really well. So I would say there being a real Molly is true. But from the Wine Downs, it sounds like the situations depicted are based on all the writers' lives to some extent.
cv exactly I saw the interview with Yvonne and she said they hit it off really great I wonder will we ever meet the real molly and find out if her and Issa are still best friends I want the real deal lol
So I’m guessing next episode is all about Molly
This episode was a straight FILLER EPISODE...I hate that but it is what it is now. So back to the Black Party episode!
Look, when or if a friend gets in your face like they wanna swing? They are NO LONGER your friend. U can be mad as nails but THAT was just wrong.
To be honest, Molly kept bringing negative stuff up to Issa...and Issa gave it right back to Molly (eventually in season 3). Issa stopped telling Molly everything, cuz Molly stayed with the negative tip! On Bday, she curved Nathan, she said she didn't believe in her project (about the block party thing)...like a good friend will ask questions if they don't understand and be supportive! She also said she wanted things to be cool with Condola, leaving that Lawrence mess in the dust but Molly kept pushing. Y u doin all that? Do u want me to win? Do u want me be happy and positive? You mad, and u want me to know u mad? Don't do that!
Issa found a way NOT to involve Molly, which was tactical, not sneaky in my opinion. Nathan offered to help, Issa said cool...can u ask ya boy to supply me with an Artist. After a month (1 month til the Block Party) Andre didn't even MENTION he helped out Issa. I wonder why he didn't say anything??? Cuz Andrew knew something was going on between them, but he felt, as a good boyfriend he would still help his girls girl/his roommates friend. And The MANAGER WAS PRAISING ANDREW FOR GETTING VINCE STAPLES THE GIG! Don't bring drama to the event, wait til it's over for ya'll to talk!
At Tiffany's house, Molly spoke to Tiff and Issa spoke to Kelli instead of having a come to Jesus moment together! When I assume all the time u just making it worse! Ya'll adults? Tall that mess out!!!!
Some relationships are seasonal/reasonal...find out which 1 and keep it moving!
Also...Issa Rae (not Issa Dee), I see you sporting that engagement ring at the table😏 CONGRATS!!!!!!
Interesting perspective. I fet this episode provided important context for Issa's head space so that viewers have more insight on her decision making.
@@fullmooninbloom I can understand you saying "more insight on Issa's decision making"...but Issa's decision making has been shown in EVERY episode. We found out at the block party she asked Nathan to see if Andrew could help, we saw the first time Issa cleaned/unpacked her apt that she felt accomplished, we saw she decided NOT to go to Molly's parents for Thanksgiving based off her brother saying be u..don't apologize for your feelings...and u don't have to do something you don't WANT to do, etc.. Issa does things based off of how she is feeling. That last episode she wanted to feel better about the fight with Molly...so she did things to try to make herself feel validated that she wasn't a user. Molly said she "stays needing a favor", Daniel said "out of all the places u went, u decided to stay with me"(Issa said he was closer to her Job)...which was AFTER Daniel "boom there goes the dynamite" in Issa's face then said "now we are even". The episode showed Issa continuing to do things based off how she felt. And cleaning her place again? That was an accomplishment. If your living space is tidy your mind feels the same way.
I wanted more substance. I loved her going to her mom, she needed guidance/perspective from some who knew her from her core. I also appreciate them showing Molly at the resturant and Issa deciding not to go in. Issa was still upset and hurt. And we know Issa doesn't like to talk about problems/issues. Communication is an issue for BOTH Issa and Molly. Basically 5 scenes were needed, Issa's Mom scene, the Kelli and Issa phone convo scene, Issa cleaning up her place scene, Issa responding to the FB folks and seeing Molly in the restaurant. Other than those? I needed more content.
Seasonal or reasonal...good
This episode was just filler.
Unfortunately this whole season seems like that
Zoë Quíñonez Not at all. It is fine for you not to like the episodes but progress is definitely being depicted.
You misspelled "a breather"
@@DualityUnlimited I still like the episodes.
@@heyitsnasira that is a better way to put it.
First Comment!!!
That's 2 grown men rt there
It's kinda funny that Issa's explanation of why she included the mom fits into Molly's theory that she Issa is a user. Going only to mom because you have a problem and know where else to turn is a little selfish. I know moms are there for support but ONLY going to them when you have problems, how is that ok?
Thats what mom's are for? Issa is an adult living on her own, of course her much older mother with an established life isnt going to be as big of a character as Issa's friend group
How is that selfish? Adults usually try to figure out their own problems without having to worry their parents. So when you get to a point where you have absolutely no where to go of course you call your parents. Most parents are there to comfort their children no matter how old they are. Good parents welcome these opportunities because they don't get them a lot when their children become adults. All Issa needed was advice and a laugh which her mother provided. Her mom seemed as if she was glad to give her that comfort only a good mom can give.
@@erika0182 , Right! If anything this shows that Issa's mother is a good parent.
@@erika0182 Obviously a mom is there for support but every relationship is a two way street, no? Do you only talk to your parents when you have a problem? Correct me if I'm wrong but Issa didn't even wanna go to her mom for Thanksgiving. That fits into the user theory.
@@OtakWho Again to ONLY go there for a problem is a user. Obviously parents are there for support but don't you at least check on them to see how they're doing?