cultural appropriation in the k-pop industry: a video essay
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Thanks for watching the video! There are a few things I wanna say:
1. (G)-IDLE is in the thumbnail not because I am directly calling them out. I just needed a picture for the thumbnail and I felt like putting the picture of literal blackface was way too much because people might see this video on their recommended and have no desire to see blackface because it upsets them. I am aware that I could have picked any group I just picked this one because they are arguably one of the groups that have been known to do CA multiple times with multiple cultures. I mean we remember ethnic hip right? Either way know that this is no direct hate towards them. If you know my channel you know I actually really like the group and their music.
2. The April comeback review is the next video coming out. I know it was supposed to come out first but I was in one of those moods where I had these thoughts in the video stuck in my head and I had to talk about them. But the comeback vid. is coming don't worry.
okay, now you've got me wondering if Dreamcatcher has done anything like this. Like, they're the only ones I listen to, alongside SKZ........and i've been with Dreamcatcher since Deja Vu era.
@@woahthere_dami dreamcatcher's whole existence is just wrong
@@woahthere_dami I'm a DC stan, huge insomnia and I can say yes. Their album covers except for their Japanese and most recent albums + roseblue are so offensive. They cannot use dream catcher's on their album covers because they are non natives.
@@damisslave2406 ahhhh, didn't know that. Well dang
@@rahmanesa7063 they've done more than that :(
“please don't sue me, I'm a broke college student” I AM SCREAMING, but same 💀
too relatable 💀
I think if there's a company that wants to sue you, it's most likely to close the channel, not for the money.
I can relate to that quote 💀
As a Black kpop stan it really makes me happy that a non black kpop stan actually cares about these kinds of things and doesn’t brush it off or try to cover it up like it’s nothing. It’s been really hard this past week (with the Enhypen situation). And it’s an extremely heartbreaking and tiring reminder how a lot of non black kpop stans just genuinely do not care for black kpop stans and their well being. I really hope you know that I genuinely really appreciate you speaking up and talking about a subject like this. So, thank you for that❤️
(I’m also subscribing!!)
Thank you so much! 💖 Welcome to the channel! I'm glad you liked the video it means a lot. It physically makes me sick the way a lot of non black kpop stans will treat black kpop stans. Yes, the enhypen thing has been wild and really hard to watch. They are one of my favorite new groups but the way the fans are trying to brush this under the rug or tell black fans how to feel doesn't sit right with me. I'm sorry that all of this stuff still happens and I hope you're doing okay!
Same!
Wait wait wait what enhypen situation?
@@Alicia-ln3ie to sum it up, Heeseung was singing along to Love Galore by SZA and that song has the n word in like the beginning of it (which was the part Heeseung was singing). A lot of people hear him say the n word in it, some other people thought another member was singing over him and were singing the Korean word for “I” or “you. And so, black Engenes wanted an apology or at least a statement but instead of getting anything like that they were just experiencing hardcore racism and anti- blackness from non black engenes on weaverse. These people were calling black engenes monkeys, the n word with both the a and the hard r, saying stuff like “bring back black slavery” and things like “lynch the blacks” , posting pictures of black people getting lynched, and just absolutely awful stuff like that. At then end of the day though beliftlab (I think that’s their company name) came out with a statement that they would sue anyone who talks about the situation. And it really sucks because black engenes and just black kpop stans in general had to just suffer and get no type of ‘justice’ for the horrible things that was happening to them. I mean it came to the point where there was a black engene who almost took her life because of it.
@@softbubbles8862 ugh, that whole situation was just so off putting. enhypen as a group is great, but their fandom will give them a bad rep,,,
I know people have already made videos on this but I am so proud of you for doing this even if you are not a person of color because most of us are just written off as whiny and dramatic. As effed up as this sounds, most people will only take it seriously when they hear a white person speak about it as well. It matters as well when people like you speak up, you lead by example and that means a lot to us. So once again thank you...
Thank you for watching it!
Did you change your opinion on this? Because in your most recent video it sounds like you disagree with calling these people out.. just saying
@@t0kkiivu445 like I said, its not calling out that's the problem. Its the method people are using. It has become ineffective. Idols actually have started profiting off of that behaviour and our anger. Its not okay to call people dramatic, I never did that, I simply asked for people to not use their anger publicly in a way that give idols pub;licity they don't deserve. This video does that in an educative manner and teaching people what culture appropriation is and why it isn't okay. If you actually listened to what I said in my video you would have to ask this question in the first place!!
@@everglowup I did listen to your video... like 3 different times and I still was confused till now, I just wanted to clarify. Sorry I upset you for asking a question. 😐
@@t0kkiivu445 cute. now you claim you were confused when you clearly accused me of having a problem with idols being called out. seemed to me you knew exactly what you were talking about? 😑
can we talk about how arabs and latinos are literally just concepts for the kpop industry?
they wont care less about us they just wanna make money and profit of our culture with a arabian or latin concept :/
frr and they never get called out and if they do it’s so small most of the time they don’t apologize
Yep pretty nasty, I hope that with k-pop going more international they can learn to be respectful
They think that they can steal all of your content but you’ll never see it because they’re in a different country.
And most of them label Aladdin and belly dancing as Indian culture. One search in google will tell you everything there is to know but they still choose to go ahead and make a fool of themselves
Istg, I see this too and I’m not even into Kpop “culture” because it’s literally quite frank other cultures combined and put together in a way that is appropriation and not appreciating. Fr bro
“Its just hair" always boils my blood to the point where I'm just numb to it. Yes it's just hair but I can't get a job because if my hair, or I'm told my hair is “unprofessional"...I can't win with my natural hair, and I can't win with doing protective styles like box braids and faux locs. Black kids literally get sent home over hair😐
Also, the Wendy thing to this day still upsets me because I have never been able to get back into red velvet. She did it 2 times, she didn't learn so I legit dropped RV, couldn't continue to stan(I still love Joy tho👀)
EXACTLY! idk how people can't see that it's not just hair to people in positions of power either when they use those hairstyles to deny black people basic human rights. Thanks for watching my video btw!
I know, I get warned 24/7 at school about hair, that's its unruly and ugly. They don't allow braided hair of any sorts. It takes so much blowdrying and combing to get it into a puff and braiding and oiling it at night and putting it into a bonnet to protect it. It hurts so much that others can wear the hair I can't freely without judgement while I can't.
@@kwagalavictoria5057 tell them THEIR PERSONALITY IS UGLY tell me ur school I'ma come and fight them all 😠
I’m not black and I will never feel the the same way you do, but when I tell you when I hear ignorant and stupid idiots on the internet go like ‘ItS jUsT hAiR’
I WOULD PAY TO PUNCH THEM REPEATEDLY IN THE FACE
To me, i believe that your hair is beautiful and that it should be just seen as hair and not be setback to you in any way. (sorry if this was offensive in any way.)
South African girl here - thank you for being respectful and for caring about POC. What you have been through sounds awful and the fact that you came out of that high school as an ally for us is just amazing. You are a true ally.
I'm South African tooo🌹
South Africans and Americans are alike in so many ways innit?
So we are calling each other "colored" as a good thing? I don't know if that can be reclaimed.
@@ArcaniaSkypirateDen9516 it has been used in South Africa to coin a group of people…it’s not rude in SA…I’m also South African
@@khanyi8512 yes especially people who are mixed race. Im from Mpumalanga here
It doesn’t make sense how fans love to use the excuse of “the idol doesn’t know” like the idols are damn near 20-30 and we’re in the golden age of technology, ontop of that they have many international fans of various ethnicities and cultures, so kpop artists should be aware and be able to respect the culture, same with companies. I honestly thing idols should attend seminars where they learn more about cultures around the world and hear from black, Arab, latino and desi people and people from other cultures and understand our struggles and learn more about the cultures.
periotd like I'm still underraged and I already know about these things fans are just taking their pretty, handsome face as an excuse for everything which is not okay.
100% agree w/ you!
"black sympathizer" nah man it's just being a decent human being 💀
i'm black. you don't understand how refreshing it is to hear this... it's like a weights been lifted, like "YES! someone gets it!!!"
i absolutely adore your content and love the conversations that occur from it.
you talked about this so maturely and i am so happy you made this video, Also your voice is so satisfying to hear
thank you so much!
@@katerinarose
When blackpink Ganesha scandal happened and Indian fans asked for an apology, Soo many blonks attacked my culture and even the blinks tried to defend blackpink or YG.
I decided to not unstan cause blinks said it’s YG’s mistake. But then they did It again and this time they did it twice.
1. In how you like that behind the scenes when Jennie and Rose mocked My religious dance. Blinks had no answers cause this time we could clearly see that Jennie and Rose did it on their own, no one told them to do it.
2. On “Knowing brothers”(korean entertainment show) they did it again.
I was just soo hurt and I had to unstan, I wish blackpink learn from these mistakes and stop mocking my culture again and again.
I'm from India and not even a Hindu and it pissed me off... How blonks were attacking and Indian culture and making fun of Indian women calling us donkeys.. will never forget that!
Holy fuck I’m sorry you experienced that, the nerve of this people to appropriate your culture and then turn around and mock you and insult you! Indian traditional dances are gorgeous!
wow im not even indian but i remember telling a blink that blackpink, in fact, is doing a lot of these king of things.
he, however, being a dead braincell, as other blonks are, denied it and called me jealous.
@@jeanneann3545 I can relate, I really hate blonks but blinks are no less tbh.
Blinks gave me this excuse that BP can use your culture cause the director of music video was Indian but I was really sus of that cause there are rarely any Indian directors who direct kpop MVs and looked it up. Turns out I was right!
The director’s name: Seo Hyun-seung
It only shows that blinks can go to any lengths to not hold their faves accountable, even if it means spewing out lies or misinformation.
When I told them that the director was clearly not Indian, they questioned if I was even Indian cause according to them it’s clearly an Indian/Asian name
@@godzilla1840 Im glad im not the only one that noticed Blinks are like.. army, but thrice the hard headed part.
I mean, I was such a hardcore BTS fan back when before theyre massive, 2015 or so, when they are mostly popular among asian countries only.
But when I noticed that not only army, but also BTS changed, it pained me greatly but I decided to part my way from the fandom and the BTS.
I watched a video about BTS mysgonic for 2 mins or something (forgot the title), and although BTS had apologized for a lot of the things they did in the past and learn from it...
It pained me greatly that the boyband I stanned and streamed day and night so hard was actually at some point, is THAT rude. Then theres come Jungkook oh so happily going out with his friends during quarantine...
I dont know, it suddenly struck me that I might not know who they are anymore. Are they genuine or are they not? Is the genuine one is only RM because he seems always be the one who talk on behalf of BTS and it seems he's the only one who is educating himself by reading tons of books.
Hold on let me see if I can find the video link, but it taught me that not every idol is perfect and its not good to not hold them unaccountable.
czcams.com/video/-dEI9ZV_RXk/video.html
“YOU CANT GATE KEEP SOMETHING IF YOU DIDNT EVEN HAVE THE DAM GATE IN THE FIRST PLACE” I CHOKED!! GO AWF!!
This is coming from a Pacific Islander/Native American and I know this is long but hear me out. It's ok to like your idols but hold them accountable when it's due. Idols are always trying to break into the western market but will still keep being ignorant and racist, like how do some idols and companies expect to get more traction and success in the western media when you can't even learn how to be a decent human being? I'm sick and tired of people defending idols ignorance and racism by bringing up random irrelevant crap (ex. being bringing up other idols or cancelling them) that has nothing to do with the problem which furthermore drives away the attention from the actual problem that's present. Not to mention, the kind of person it makes you defending a person being blatantly racist or ignorant. I do believe that people can learn from their mistakes, but if they keep doing the same crap over and over while knowing it's wrong, then I do believe that's when you need to draw the line. If idols want to learn how to stop being offensive then they can not only learn and be educated from us, but educate THEMSELVES and be willing to learn and grow to have a better understanding of what's right and what's wrong and help prevent it from happening again. This not only goes for certain idols, but for the entire Kpop industry as a whole bc we all know good and well that the Kpop industry is heavily influenced by other cultures but often fails to give credit when its due.
EXACTLY! Everything you said here is facts and very important. I get that we like these idols so it can be hard to hold them accountable for racist actions, but it has to be done because real poc are being hurt by this and that's more important. Thank you for your comment! 💖
@@katerinarose You too, I loved your evaluation and commentary on this certain topic. Keep it coming!
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You’ve put into words something I noticed growing up in a tight-knit korean-american and chinese-american community. Koreans love America and see it as an idealized land of the free, and remain ignorant of america’s racist roots.
Its kinda ironic cuz so many Kpop stans make Korea out to be this perfect amazing place and willfully ignore all of it's problems
Korea is one of the most racists countries in Asia 😂🤣😂.
Japan is next.
Honestly it is hard to be a Kpop Stan and being a POC. I find myself getting invested in groups but then they repeatedly do problematic behavior. Some situations I understand because we’re all human and we do make mistakes. Take my ult group Ateez for example. They got into some hot water a while ago during their Thanxx era their leader, Hongjoong, wore a hairstyle that had dreads and braids in it for the music video. They were called out by fans and Hongjoong and the company, KQ, immediately apologized and thanked fans for educating them and they changed his hair for all of their other performances of the song and he and none of the other members have ever worn a style similar to it again. This is the shit I’m willing to accept. If you make a mistake own up to it, apologize, and change for the better, don’t do it again. What really gets me mad is when a group repeatedly keeps appropriating cultures after being called out for it multiple times.
What POC are you bruh?
This was so good and in depth, thank you! I must admit I've been kinda exhausted with conversations about CA in Kpop recently, as it often seem to either be fans defending their faves to the death or people basically using it as a weapon to attack idols they dislike by making up things and then talking over the people from the culture. It was really good to listen to someone talk about this topic with the seriousness it deserves again, and I hope that moving forward there'll be more and more productive discussions, as well as the very long overdue change in the industry itself.
PS: I know that wasn't the focus, but I'm so horrified by the story you told about your school; of course I've been hearing and learning a lot about America lately, but I was genuinely shocked to hear something like that is still possible there these days.
Thank you for watching the video and I'm glad you liked it. Yeah that kind of stuff is definitely still possible here in America. I think America likes to sell this image of being a perfect country and a place of freedom for all but its not always that way sadly. Do keep in mind though I do live in one of the most racist places in the country like everyone knows it's bad here. Not all Americans are this bad so don't let it scare you away from ever visiting or anything.
thank you for making this video, CA in kpop can be so awful
Of course!
me as a black Army when I saw their past concepts and rm´s hair I was so surprised. I was confused. But they apologized and never did it again and that IS what I respect about them. They from them have paid tributes to black culture, used back vocals from black choirs and black live bands. When they added "gwara(south african dance move)" to idol I actually cried because I felt so good. I showed it to my friends and they were so proud. Tops, them going on American hustle life I think was one of the best things BIG HIT did for them. I feel like it opened their eyes to black culture a lot more. They grew from their mistakes. I know it is bad to put people in pedestals so ik they can make mistakes one day, but I really hope they dont
Now the “they haven’t dont anything again” stuff is a lie. And the “they apologized” was Namjoon being forced to apologize because it was brought to his attention. And he couldn’t even say what he did. And Suga just had his solo which he sampled Jim Jones. They haven’t apologized for all of the things they’ve done and until they do and they take classes on black culture.
As a South African Idol was not it…thats because they used an SA sample ,SA producer and SA dance moves and yet they haven’t had a Concert in South Africa during their tour…that’s sus , even One Direction minus Zayn had 3 concerts in South Africa and they didn’t use Afro beats or Aesthetics. Please don’t defend them cause we know damn we’ll they haven’t apologized for everything they’ve done like RM’s blaccent and their colorist jokes and many more controversies. Even Beyoncé had South Africans ( like 2 from my memory)in her who run the world video because she was doing their dances…she’s a black woman and yet she still gave credit and shined a light where it was due…We as South Africa have faced racism in its extremes not to long ago so the fact they still had to audacity to “ Sample” from us without actually actually respecting our race is just a big ole bowl of BS…
@@_notmyproblem_ you watch her too?
agreed 100% people can disagree but after seeing and they did example donating to black lives matter, their actions speak louder than any apology could
as a black army i totally agree! one of the few groups that have actually acknowledged and grown from their past
The key is the difference between cultural appreciation and appropiation, a song having other country influences is fine but mocking a culture is wrong
It's always been strange to me about the concept of Culture Appropriation since people (esp. white) constantly demand others to be wary of the culture. Yet they're often not the person from that culture or the situation is not culture appropriation.
In Vietnam, my people like it a lot when foreigners wear our traditional clothing because culture is meant to be shared. Of course, we don't like it when people wear Ao dai and do inappropriate things like dirty the clothes, do provocative dances, insult it, call ownership to another country....
But overall, it's nice to have foreigners take time to prepare their hair, their clothes, their shoes to our culture (respectfully). So it's difficult for me to understand why crown braid is inclusive to black and stuff like that. Is it because black culture is heavily linked to black culture of segregation and racism?
Yes the last part you said, the part about the hairstyles like box braids, cornrows and more is a problem because white people like to wear them as a fashion statement and then they turn around look down and discriminate black people for wearing them, they don’t let kids wear those hairstyles in school and they tell them that it doesn’t look presentable for their jobs, basically telling them their hair and their traditional hairstyles aren’t good enough or decent presentable hairstyles, while them wear them without any of the consequences black people have to deal with every day
@@boniboni4912 hello just curious do you think that is a worldwide issue or an American issue? Obviously racism is worldwide but I mean the issue with hair and clothing being banned
I'm a latin girl, and I'm usually very dissapointed whenever I see the latino or Chicano culture being used as "fashion" in Kpop. I even doubt any of those idols actually knew they are appropriating latin-american culture, so I blame it mostly on the companies and the production team behind the concepts. Still, I just feel uncomfortable watching some MV's. And yes YGE, I'm mostly taking about you.
One good example of how to appreciate latin culture, is Super Junior and their productions with Reik and Leslie Grace, more over, working with producers Play-N-Skillz (who are latin-american). To me, the best way to appreciate other culture within music, is to actually work with people from that culture and learning from them.
The thing that I find “interesting” and this occurs in every pop music industry on this earth… Whenever a non-black pop artist wants to change their image and now want to be deemed as a “rebel” or an “edgy bad girl/guy…” They always incorporate hip-hop aspects into their campaign. From getting a popular hip-hop artist to rap on a track to connecting to well-known hip-hop producers for songs to taking fashion cues from the hip-hop culture.
Because hip hop is often about gangster stuff
@@georgeaskeladd742 LMAOO not all hip hop music is about that there are actual artists that write amazing lyrics. Let’s stop with the whole hip hop= gangster or whatever
It comes across so cheap and inauthentic to me. Like they don’t appreciate hip hop culture or the genre. They don’t want to actually incorporate it with their own culture/art. They just know that by using those aesthetics they’re being controversial in the eyes of the culture they belong to. And whenever they’re done with their brand change they can stop using those aesthetics and there’s no consequences. None of it is about appreciating artistry or history, it’s just a signifier to show others that they’re in their rebellious era. And the culture they belong to doesn’t care because deep down, they all know that it’s just pretend and their true “pure” cultural identity isn’t changed.
PREEEEEEEEACH QUEEN. *CULTURAL APPROPRIATION NEEDS TO STOP*
As an black and lgbtq+ person I love to watch you videos that talk about serious topics it is very informative and I even learn things that I didn’t know so thank you for making them ☺️
great video, I just wished you could have touched on g-idles appropriation of hawaiian culture for dumdi dumdi, especially since you used a stage mix for it. I may have missed if you did so i apologize, but based on the thumbnail i was SO excited to see someone finally talk about the appropriation of polynesian cultures, specifically hawaiian. They mimic many traditional hula moves (poorly and, rather insensitively) while hula dancing is a LARGE part of our culture and holds a lot of spiritual significance. During the showcase for dumdi dumdi as well, soojin gets asked to demonstrate the dance, it gets reffered to as "aloha dance" which is honestly just annoying. SUPER like your video! I just wish someone, ANYONE would talk about when hawaiian culture gets appropriated. Dont even get me started on when idols have "luau theme" "hawaii theme" vlives or whatever with plastic grass skirts and leis. Polynesian cultures always get overlooked....
I know this is a year old but have you ever thought about doing it? I think it would be very informative.
Well said. Very detailed explanation of Cultural appropriation by Kpop. I used to listen to kpop back in 2009, and stopped after I noticed how they use our culture. F that, they need to keep getting called out. 💯
The only black woman in kpop got builled for her WIG !!!!
They just want a reason to kick her out because she’s black If a Korean Idol had on a wig they would not be getting that pissed off
As an Indian stan, it was getting really tiring, cause everytime i expressed my disappointment there would always be some who say 'stop whining' or 'some of my Indian friends don't think it's offensive so why should you? ' etc etc. But i'd say over the past few years at least in my experience, it has gotten better. There are many who are willing to listen to those who were hurt by their fave's action instead of blindly supporting them without taking the feelings of the ones who were hurt's account. I hope the companies start educating their idols since kpop is global now and if they make mistakes i would just love it if they were allowed to apologise for it instead of only the company apologising on their behalf. That is something that really irks me.
Cultural appropriation in the K-pop industry is a problem that happens time and time again because idols are not being held responsible for their actions. It’s embarrassing and frustrating to see these incidents trend on Twitter because it feels like no matter which idol it happens with, it inevitably happens again with a different person, causing the cycle to continue. Fans need to stop making excuses for their favorite groups and idols because it’s beyond immature at this point. It can’t be labeled as “appreciation” either, because having darker skin and being a different race when in a K-pop group causes such turmoil within the industry. Some fans have even been told that they aren’t allowed to be fans of this music because of the color of their skin and their race. Imagine how hurtful it is to be fans of these idols and to be part of fandoms where they are not welcome. That being said, thank you for talking about this issue, highlighting the videos that were made by people of color, and being transparent throughout this video.
Thank your for this video. I love how you was breaking it down to simply terms. As well as keeping it educated and aware but same time being respectful. Usually, not often I see a non black person talk about this serious issue and when the person does he/ she usually dismissive and insincere. Using the tactic of sweeping it under the rug and giving a fake apology.
Anyway thank you and I hope you enjoy rest of your day. Also, I hope you don’t mind this long comment.
Thank you for watching it!
As a Black Gay I will have to say that I am happy you posted this
Honestly, whiles I love Kpop, I'm literally terrified to go to Korea after what I've witnessed. (seems like a beautiful country but I think I'll pass)
Also I live in Africa so I don't experience racism unless online but I do experience colorism.
This is where I have to agree. As much as I enjoy what I like. I don’t feel the need to actually want to travel to Korea. Especially knowing Korea is still in their old ways. While not everyone is like the at it’s still is terrifying.
So you live in a whole continent? Africa does not mean black genius
@@angela8737 sorry approximately West Africa largely black dominated areas
@@pheonixheart5534 thank you for this reply and I apologize for the harsh words.
I just cringe when people refer to Africa as a homogenous land
@@angela8737 no worries
I understand 🤗
I don't like how fans say "they are korean they don't understand" It doesn't matter where there from they should know and understand racism and cultural appropriation. Half of these idols are from the US or some where else that had different races and cultures and they where aware of what's going on if that makes sense.
sounds pretty narcissistic to expect everyone to know about concepts like cultural appropriation that only exist in america
Pretty bizarre to think Cultural appropriation is only an American thing🤷♂️
@@emilia-ek7cti know this comment is like a year old but hopefully you’ve grown to realize how ignorant you was
As an Arab I also hate the cultural appropriation and how kpop fans react. Whenever I would say that the Make A Wish concept and era just made me uncomfortable as an arab, NCTzens were so quick to attack me and call me names and slurs. That was the first time I actually understood how people could be turned off by a group just based off the fans. It was a really horrible experience and I still don't understand why it happened. I also hate that companies think that deleting content will make the problematic things go away. Treasure is my ult group but I saw a lot of fans were upset by something Treasure did in Treasure Map. And all YG did was delete that part of the episode. I was very upset, why don't they let them apologize? I hated to see my teume friends so upset by something Treasure did. Companies are all about a group being global until they have to start respecting global cultures.
as an arabe too i actually got offended mostly by g idle stage decoration like 8:47
@@giddygp2816 1 year later, that wasn't their fault, stylists and the music shows are the ones making all the things in perfomances ( backgrounds and clothing ) , Also this this video has A LOT of false information about gidle ' ' CA ' ' the only time that they really did CA was in Fire and all the stuff that happened in those episodes ( Queendom ) but everything else or it wasn't their fault or it was not CA
FUN FACT henna is a part of minnie's culture etc so it doesn't count
This was very well done and has become one of my favorite videos on this matter. I’m a black kpop fan and the girl group that I stanned and helped me through my depression turned out to be one of the most problematic records in kpop. Taking these matters more seriously I think would save black kpop fans a lot of heartache, especially since a lot of these matters are swept under the rug for POC kpop fans to only know about months after they’ve emotionally invested themselves in the group. Korea has the technology and resources to educate themselves. It’s 2021. They’re out of excuses. Hold every fav accountable. This is not a call to unstan your fav, every person is different and has their own limits. But accountability is not negotiable.
I’m not into Kpop at all but this video was SO well done. As a black person, you framed this entire thing as well as I could
The entire time I was watching this video I was like she is amazing. I hung on every word, it was so detailed and perfectly said. There are so many white kpop stans who just refuse to talk about the subject. Or if they do then I feel like it's not meant, it's like they're going through the motions. I really and truly respect the fact that you took your time to talk this out. This is video was much needed and it's nice to know that there are people like you in this world. There are passionate souls ready to fight for the underdog. I am so happy that I have found your channel and wish you nothing but happiness. ❤️
Wow I'd never heard of the Bubble Sisters. My jaw hit the floor when I saw the picture. I can't believe I've never heard of them before. It's important to not forget awful things that have happened, and talk about them, so that we can hopefully learn from it.
Damn her high school is a real shit hole 😬 I don’t think i would resist hearing people say many racist things I would go nuts. It’s crazy how many fans would defend their idols for doing something wrong and attacking the people calling them out 🤦♀️
I almost got suspended from school back when I was in 8th grade for being called the "n word" and being slapped in the face right after. I barely spoke to him and I didn't fight back. I was walking home when he said this to me. We were technically still on school property when this happened. 3 black students (including me) were involved. 2 of us were hit first (me and my friend at the time), my friend fought back, and she got a 3-day suspension. This other kid beat up the bully because he was violent towards us. I think he either got 2 weeks suspension or expelled for this. The bully wasn't suspended at all at first until my mom went to the school with the police (because the situation started on school property but ended off school property at the library next door). This isn't the first time the police were involved when it came to my bullying
In the 80’s there was a variety show that had blackface and when the 1988 olympics came there, along with black athletes, the blackface was put on hold. Pretty sure they know what they are doing is wrong.
I’m not going to say everyone there is fully aware of black issues…..but if they want to profit off black people and market to them (many kpop fans are black), they need to mature and do their research on black issues. Same with LGBTQA+ community and even other Asian communities. Black (mixed mixed black and Korean), Filipino, Thai, Indian, and other non-east Asian nor white (mixed with Korean) auditions and most don’t make it. But if they do, they get hate for skin, hair, facial features, or other skin level “issues”; it’s honestly pathetic.
Korea, like the USA needs to pull up their undies and stop being do butthrut when they do wrong and need to learn. Kinda like Zico saying the F-slur and then he/his company said it wasn’t homophobic/about gay men, despite the lyrics address it in a obviously way to that and it had the maggot sound, not the hag sounding one. And that’s why I haven’t bought a song with him nor block b since. And if kpop doesn’t learn…they will lose money, especially with the PC world we live in today.
i think the reason they didn’t stop is because they mostly care for the Korean views not the international ones. so if the scandal (black face,CA, stereotypes) didn’t offend Korean views then they wont apologize which is the stupid thing cause at this point they should know Kpop blew up. for example, Wendy. Wendy stereotyped black people and didn’t apologize. but on the Irene situation, Irene apologized secretly cause SM wouldn’t let her. so in this case Wendy just doesn’t wanna apologize or just doesn’t care at all. Another problem, is the fact that when the situation is offensive towards another race that doesn’t mean you accept. for example, when idols disrespect desi people. if desi people don’t forgive then it is what it is. this is also including han jisung from stray kids, half of the people who accepted his apology wasn’t black at all. And thats the worse problem about it to me, if you aren’t the race that the idol disrespected you have no OPINION in the apology or anything. And also this is something i see on Tik Tok a bunch, if a black person forgave a idol who appropriated their culture they would get called a “Koon” for it. which i don’t get....cause they are also that race and they can accept the apology if they want. And including the fact when han jisung said the n word the whole kpop community was angry but when it was any other idol such as rm everyone was defending him which actually got on my nerves because yall should be treating RM the same way if so. so the whole kpop community is just confusing
We live in the age where all cultures entangle. Internet makes it easy for people of different cultures to be in the spotlight and a lot of people get interested when they see something new - is it cuisine, culture, hairstyles, clothes. It's natural for cultures to get mixed and there is no way of stopping that. It's how people "evolve" when they live in multicultural world.
The other thing is people forget to show respect to those cultures, tend to steal and claim the part of cultures as their own ideas and this is what should be condemned. If something intersests you learn about it first. Do not make fun of cultures and history.
Your video was great!!!
I love how you explain everything
As a black kpop fan i was considering quitting kpop because everytime my feelings get hurt by those CA but i believe ppl can change so i hope they do
I don't really think it was an apology, I think he just grew aware of his actions towards others.
Cultural Appropriation is a big problem in the KPOP community I am not black no I am Pacific Islander but there has been a lot of racial things said towards me like the n word and stuff but besides that it should be solved
I am not black but I only want to say a few things. First of all, I loved this video. Second of all, fans should call out their idols for CA or racism but don't send death threats to them. I feel so upset when people would send hate comments or death threats to these idols instead of educating idols. And finally I feel that people have to know the difference between the words 'ignorant' and 'racism'. I mean this is my view on this topic. I have no right to accept the apology of the idols as I am not black.( Please don't hate me. I am in my early teens and am trying to learn about this stuff a lot.)
@Naheed The thing is,most of them are grown adults who went out their way to do something gross,knowing how gross it was.They knew what they were doing and they did it anyways.There's no point in submitting someone who goes thru racial abuse to make these digostang people "care in front of fans who would deliberately send deaththreats to other black fans".Becausethey nevercared and they never will.
@@kaira4826 I agree with that. We don't know what goes on behind the doors. If the idol is actually innocent to not know about this or they knew and still did it. Most of the time it's the latter one.
The thing is not that ppl don’t actually know the difference between ignorance and racism, it’s the fact that ppl are this ignorant in a modern day society that it causes this thought of how can someone be so ignorant in this time, it’s like they are doing it on purpose, to be willfully ignorant. Not saying that is my view points on situations like this, but of course, with things like this it naturally creates some disbelief. Same way how people are shocked or say they can’t believe certain things because it’s too “bizzare/unbelievable” for them. Just a quick analysis (also they are not wrong for thinking this way especially if you are a person who has experienced a lot of racism/prejudice I,e)
@@neattea3452 I like your point of view on it as well. Sorry if I said something wrong in my comment.
No. If they are racist they deserve death threats lol. I could care less if they get them. 😂😂 it’s 2021. Idols can easily learn. There is no more education and people like you need to get rid of this 2017 Phrase. No one finna educate someone on how to not be racist. 💀 it isn’t our job to educate them. They can educate themselves.
thank you for making this video, as a black and white female kpop fan that isn’t properly educated due to whitewashing in school and hesitance to speak with black family. ive dismissed so much racism and ca because I’ve felt that even as someone who is black, I’m not educated enough to speak my mind. again, thank you for this video.
I am not into kpop but I find learning about these issues and experiencing the subculture through a proxy really interesting nonetheles, so thank you for making these video essays!
If this is something you enjoy continuing education of yourself on, then I really recommend the book White Fragility. It covered a lot of your points here but goes so beyond
Thank you so much! I am super interested in new books about this topic. I read a lot of books political and social commentary wise for my degree but I haven't read this one. Thanks again you've given me something to read for the next few weeks
1) When did rm actually apologize? 2)Bp are heavily based off of black culture. Their music misuses aave and Lisa raps with a blaccent. Jennie couldn’t even explain what hip hop is in their rolling stone interview, yet their music, stage persona, style, aesthetics use hip hop as the blueprint
this is so thoughtful and well-articulated. Good job. Can’t wait for more videos❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for this much needed video
First off, I like hearing your voice and I love that you aren’t biased
the way i screamed when i saw you uploaded and about ca
Can you do Desi, Hispanic, Muslim,....etc culture appropriation in a video, pls 🥺🥺💓
May I ask what Desi is short for and what it means?
@@c.lineofficial desi mainly means Indian culture
@@c.lineofficial India, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bhutan pakistan, Maldives, Bangladesh are called desi countries and the ca in k-pop is mostly of indian Hindu culture like dances, hand gestures, bindi, idols and curry joke
this is an amazing video and such an important topic! thank you for making this
I love you so much for this. Thank you!
i’m not really good with words and i know this video was posted a while ago so you might not even see this but even though i’m not black i am a person of color and i’m also arab and muslim so i just want to thank you for talking about this subject because i’ve seen so many of my black friends get hurt by it and no one gives a shit! and when i try to talk about it myself i’m not taken seriously bc im a poc too, while i don’t relate a 100% with the horrible things black people go through n experience i can understand and relate to a few things so it hurts me too knowing my friends are hurting like i am or even more whenever someone brushes off our pain and struggles
You're really a good, sensitive and sweet person.
Love your voice and your videos!! I have subscribed and look forward to the other topics you talk about. I appreciate the time you took to discuss this recurring issue, thank you so much. 😌😌
i have seen many people online talking that no one cares about my country's culture when blackpink used lord ganesh as a prop near lisa's feet and although i like blackpink i was hurt . Fans were commenting nonsensical shit just to cover their groups mistake by saying that they are much bigger than your god . I was like wow where are your brains gone ,how can you say its not a big deal when you are not even affected by that .
they removed it but didnt even address it . its like if you came at my place and saw your god's painting or art as an aesthetic in the house and when you object that , i just throw the statue or painting out and pretend like nothing happen that what they did because they know their fans will clean up their mess by their insensitive excuses
The older I get, the harder it gets to stay a kpop fan
I feel like if us as yt people can ignore it and defend idols for doing cultural appropriation, k pop or not, that shows white privilege and shows they don't really understand the issue. It doesn't affect them so they don't care which is so sad.
i loved this. thank you so much for making this video
thank you for watching
This was one of the best videos on this topic. These were some really sensible and right thoughts.
As an Indian kpop fan, seeing so many idols so that offensive curry song dance & other desi CA stuff time and again, it hurts and pisses me off so much, I can just imagine how horrible black ppl and the other communities feel when idols do something offensive to them & their cultures. kpop Idols and koreans in general really need to get the fuck up and start using that damn 5g internet for educating themselves!
I just discovered your channel and this is one of the best videos I've seen all year. Very well done, thanks!
I’m referencing your video in my political science paper! Thank you for the amazing content!
You sound so genuine and I love that being black is HARD ASF at times just imagine wondering the people you pay to entertains you might hate you for something you can’t control .
Thanks you so much for this new sub.💗
Thank you! Welcome to the channel!
Thankyou for this video
Thank you and may God bless your career.you did a wonderful job ,let's see how many people in kpop will understand that again thank you
Your content is amazing hoping you blow up soon ♥️
I love the realness of this video liked and subbed.
Well done, you did a great job explaining what's happening in K-Pop and why it upsets some black folks (me included).
Hi Katrina, that was a great video! I sat and listened to everything you said intensely. I got a lot to say because this is a serious subject that definitely needs to be discussed, as it affects many in the black community, especially the black kpop fans. Being a Korean myself living in the USA, I do also watch and love a ton of Kpop. I got into it by accident, lol. I've known about it for years but was always a Heavy metal, Nordic industrial, Jazz music (modern, traditional), R&B, and 80's music, go figure! Anyways, I wholeheartedly agree with you that there is a lot of cultural appropriation committed in kpop, even towards other ethnicities. I really can't explain exactly why, but do believe that it is definitely due to ignorance and being a VERY homogeneous country as you well stated, trust me I used to live in Korea for many many years. I DO understand that this is 2021 and NO ONE should be ignorant to cultural appropriation, especially when we have limitless information at our fingertips via the internet! The Korean people are VERY supportive of each other and try to defend and protect each other as much as possible, (as any race or ethnicity should) ie: the use of words and phrases such as "unnie (sister)," and "hyung (order brother)" are a couple of endearing and protective terms. What I'm trying to say is that in Korean schools, they don't teach much of American history or for that matter, American culture much at all. The kids grow up learning about Korea and the rest of the world, but don't spend as much time learning about American history, nearly as much as we do here in the states. There wouldn't be enough time in the day. It's unfortunate, as Koreans would definitely have a much better understanding of other cultures and their history. I basically went to school here in Florida from Kindergarten through high school, and learned a sh_t ton of American history. I was a goofy nerd and made basically straight A's. Wow, what a great achievement, lmao, but I digress..However, it's a damn shame that the schools here in the U.S. don't touch more on the subject of the African American plight and suffering.. ie: Slavery, "Jim Crow" euphemism, or "Black Wall Street" in Tulsa, which should have passed it's 100th year anniversary since a couple months ago I believe, a very sad story in American history, which many many kids or even adults today, do not even have the slightest clue about it unless they've heard it on TV or the internet.. I think that a ton of people are just now learning about the "Jim Crow" euphemism through research on the internet due to the I think that guy Bangchan from Stray Kids? Apparently he mimicked the caricature that Jim Crow was named after since another artist was imitating the same defaming caricature "pose," also in his song I believe? Correct me if I'm wrong please.. I did catch a video of his apology somewhere on CZcams, and do believe that he is being genuine and sincere with his apology, as he did state that he didn't know anything about the meaning behind the story, as apparently they didn't go over that in Australian schools (whether that's an excuse or not, I don't know). However, I do have to defend him on that one, as many netizens are really pissed by jumping on the bandwagon and calling him out by saying that he grew up in Australia, and that they teach that kind of history in their schools, and he should know better. Although I've just visited there and have never attended a school there, I don't believe they go over that unfortunate detail of American history, or maybe I could be wrong about Australian schools? I argue this because many many netizens, with the exception of a few, are now claiming that they know about "Jim Crow," but I know for a fact that this is total bullshit, as they are now hearing about it for the first time due to the internet and the incident with Bangchan. Anyways, although the majority of Koreans are NOT racist in any capacity (this I know from experience in Korea), they are however very ignorant or have limited knowledge of the suffering that African Americans have endured, or African culture in general! But it sure as hell doesn't excuse the BS that has been going on in kpop for years now, and up to now lately. That BS with the "black face" on past TV shows and one of the lead singers from "Beast" doing "blackface" and eating stereotypical food, was inexcusable! It's seriously embarrassing and shameful, especially since many many kpop fans and netizens are black! I myself absolutely know the feeling of racism, especially growing up here in the U.S. for the last 40 years. I've been called every name in the book, just use your imagination.. I even have experienced this much more so now over the past year, due to the Pandemic, as practically almost all Asians of every shape or form have experienced this and have been ridiculed or called racist names. I personally experienced this 11 times, twice violently.. Unfortunately, I've been keeping a sad record of it :( Believe it or not, the vast majority have been from non whites! That's the most saddest part of all :( I won't name ethnic groups, but all but 2 have been from non whites. I actually saw many of the cell phone vids at the beginning of the Pandemic on CNN last year, where many Koreans that live in NY, were viciously beaten up by non white ethnicities. Many were females being beaten up by males! How sad and deeply shameful is that?? :( Google it, you'll see the images and footage..and try the father the Southeast Asian with his 2 young sons in Texas who's faces were cut up by a non white. But again, I know that these individuals were ignorant, so I don't hold any grudges anymore.. You also touched on an extremely deep and meaningful subject about the Japanese occupation and systematic destruction of our Korean culture, along with our people, where millions of Koreans were killed during the entire 35 year occupation.. Google that one, which you've already done a great job researching and touching on the subject so far in your video. Even my grandfather whom I've never met, was killed in Okinawa fighting for the Japanese, and my grandmother whom I've never met either, died as a "Comfort Women" for the Japanese soldiers. Unfortunately, they don't teach much about it in American schools, I don't even remember them touching on the subject at all.. But again, I love the Japanese people very very much, as the younger generation have learned from it, and many Japanese live in Korea and have mixed with Koreans over the past many decades. Now going back to the very sensitive subject at hand, I do wish very much that these idiotic and inexcusable production companies, as well as the artists themselves, would STOP doing this stupid ass Bullsh_t! As it hurts all of us at the end of the day.. I do believe like you do, that they can change, and they can make up for this shameful period in kpop. They just need to own up to it, and make amends with the community, especially to their black kpop fans.. I have no idea what the future will bring, but let's find out.. Thanks for the great and informative video!
Many people think mamamoo have redeemed themselves when they literally use arab sounds, themes, and "costumes" almost every single comeback and profit off of it immensely
If you're talking about AYA i saw all of them Arabic fans that they were proud that mamamoo used elements of their culture and saw almost no one complaining
@@dommm5617 i guess different people can have different reactions, im an arab and i found it to be too much especially some of the costumes which are inspired by what s** sl**es wore
@@abdelrahmanalmendle9483 i don't know what are the words that you censored but since I only saw people liking the song I assumed everyone was fine with it
@@dommm5617 im sorry but my comments get deleted if i dont censor😅
I just think they should tread carefully because of their bl*ckface incident, i know they apologised but it still happened and they have to live with that so i dont see why they feel comfortable toeing the line between appreciation and appropriation when they could just mind their own business
@@abdelrahmanalmendle9483 no problem i get it
This was deep. Thank You.
Just like when being hispanic is suddenly a hot kpop concept, like, educate yourself, both the companies, and the idols
As a black kpop stan I'm tired of these issues getting swept under the rug and none of these artists being held genuinely accountable for their actions
I really love this video, and congrats for making it so good! However, I would like to give you some constructive criticism, if you don't mind.
I think the topic of your essay was a bit too broad, and because of it, you touched upon a lot of things, but it feels like most of it was a bit too surface level. I think it would have been better to stick to 1 instance of cultural appropriation (kpop in the 90s, black hairstyles, blackface, apologies, fans' racism, white fans crying wolf), and discuss that one topic in more detail for 20-30 minutes. You would have had time, for example, to show us actual examples of blackface, or articles about black kids being sent home for hairstyles that idols can wear.
It would also be a great series! All these examples in this video that you made, it would be so interesting to discuss them separately in videos, with actual examples of the history of black people, how they are discriminated against to this day while idols are forgiven for appropriation.
I really hope this concrit found you at a good time, and that I didn't offend. It's really great that there are videos out there like this one that explain this phenomenon. I am eastern europen, and let me tell you, my white countrymen do NOT understand CA, and they will defend their idols to the death, attacking POC. It's so offensive and shitty, and I'm happy that there's sources I can link them when I want them to stfu.
I have to agree honestly
le last painting metaphor is beautifull you should be proud of your self
He sweetheart. I really appreciate this video and content from you. As often as people talk about this it seems like they never learn and the need for videos like this are an ongoing necessity. Im not sure if anyone said this to you or if you know it already but i recommend getting a pop filter for your mic to minimize the plosives and harsh air going straight into the capsule of your mic.
Just imagine if a black group did Yellow face and called themselves The Kimchi Sisters, all the hypocritics will be exposed.
Thank you for this video. Afro-Caribbean kpop stan here. Well said and respectfully presented.
This is so incredibly well thought-out that I don't really have anything to add. What i do want to say is that the "they didn't know" excuse is just that, an excuse and a bad one at that. We are not so ignorant to the world and discrimination that we don't know when something is offensive because as soon as it's directed toward Koreans our understanding all of a sudden peaks. No. The real issue is, like you said, there's no real backlash to thinking this way or expressing these things and when idols have thousands of people defending their behavior they feel justified. I wouldn't excuse someone wear hanbok abd speaking broken "engrish" or pulling their eyes back just because they haven't lived around Asians because it's common sense that judging an entire people off a few is not only ignorant but stupid. I see how Asians are often portrayed in western media and know how untrue it is so why would I believe they're portraying another group of people completely accurately. I'm also aware that skin color is just that and has nothing to do with a person's behavior or who they are. We are all human. These excuses may work with small children but no one over the age of probably 12 has an excuse ESPECIALLY adult idols who know they are on a global platform with fans from all over the world. Again, i thank you for this. It very much needed to be said and your understanding is so refreshing
As a black lgbtq kpop stan, thank u for making and posting this video because the amount of racism is absolutely ridiculous and insane, and i/we as a black community are sick and tired of it
Kpop is deffinately based off black culture. Almost all kpop groups have a rapper and where did rap originate? Black People. Kpop involves hip hop.....where did hip hop come from? Black people
Rap and hip hop are the creation of many races in US .lol . it's not just bl@ck people.
It's US culture. not black culture. it comes from poor places with gangs in the U.S. U.S is a multiracial country so it is of U.S origin, not bl@ck people.
find out before you say what you don't know.
@@cn4s490 Rap and hip hop originated in the Bronx from Black people as well as Jazz. I can help you with a simple Google search. Just leave black people and their culture alone. Simple
@@notacontentcreator4399 Rap and hip hop were created from many races in the U.S.
it's funny how black people see it as their "creation".lmao
@@cn4s490 because we did create it.... It's literally a huge part of black excellence and culture..
@@Nunetutelulayi go to tell latinos, hispanics and whytes it's yours.
US is a multicultural place. and hiphop is the creation of many races there, not just only bl@ck people.
and bl@ck people act like it's their creation .lmao
Those disclaimers were lengthy but important!
The basis of kpop WAS FOUNDED ON CULTURE APPROPRIATION. The entire industry is based on Hip Hop and R&B, or black urban culture and trends in general. The companies that started kpop in the 90s has said this themselves. So of course they’re gonna take musical and fashion influences from other races and cultures. Once if happen to anyone who isn’t black that’s when I notice that people care lol. Literally there are on average two “rappers” in the every group. lol
What about the kpop concepts that aren't hiphop based? Like ive even seen some classical music inspired concepts, so that's not founded on black culture is it
@@hi-ve1cw but has the music actually been classical music? No. I’m not talking solely about aesthetics and how someone looks, thought that plays a part, the music (aside from the language itself) usually is huge appropriation. And do some music history, hip-hop isn’t the ONLY genre that originates w a black diaspora. You’ll be shocked to find where Rock n Roll comes from, search B.B King.
@@hi-ve1cw AND literally every group has rappers lol, no real way around it.
@@hi-ve1cw notice, I also noted that steal from other races and cultures as well, but I’m speaking from a black POV. Not everything they appropriate comes from my community, it’s easier to identify what does for me.
@@rionriley8518 yeah but there's so many kpop concepts that have nothing to do with any genre that was origionated by black people, especially with girl groups. Like what about Gfriend's early concepts appropriate black culture? And yes, rock and roll was origionated by a black man but that's its own genre thats different to the other guitar music genres like classic rock, prog rock, grunge, goth, punk, heavy metal, glam rock, alternative rock, emo, indie, etc etc. You can't claim that all of those are black culture because they're not
From 100 views to 60K is quite nice well done
I love that disclaimer
sis I really love you...I wish you a good health❤️
Anyone else still really fucking upset that the Heeseung situation was brushed off?
Bruh, ikr??? Me and my best friend has lost all hope in hybe because they didnt didnt do anything whlie black engene were being attacked because they spoke up about the heeseung issue. They built a multi million company off of black culture but when it comes defending black people from racism against fans of one of their groups they're silent? Dissapointed not suprised
@@nanabeeseed3651 I get what you mean but enhypen is under a section of hype. Hype is the whole company but the company is broken down in smaller parts which different groups are apart of. enhypen is under belift lab which is a section of hype so hype as a whole is not responsible for how enhypens management chooses to handle something that enhypen is apart of.
What happend?
exactly, the same reason why i literally can’t even watch the group anymore
I'm emotional. Amazing job.
as an army, I'm glad that you brought up the fact that rm had acknowledged and apologized for the first 2 eras cuz unfortunately, *some* armies still like to ignore and forget about it (and still defend it too). excellent video
Honestly when I as a desi tell someone that this infact is not offensive or we appreciate it and then to find people speaking over me is just to irritating
And personally I only "defend" and Idol when it gets to the point of "he should kill himself he is racist" like I really like seeing my faves get educated apologize and get held accountable i *will* defend them against hate and toxicity
(And outsiders attacking them for the way they apologized without knowing about it or why they apologized like that)
Well if they are being racist, they definitely deserve hate
Love this
I’m surprised this was actually educational for me since I’m usually decently educated about racial topics, great video ❗️
I honestly only accept apologies only when the offended group accepts it