Jamie Lee Curtis Interviews ALOK on the World Beyond the Gender Binary | 2023 Upfront Summit
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- ALOK sits down with Jamie Lee Curtis to explore themes of gender, race, trauma, belonging and the human condition.
Recorded March 2, 2023 at the Upfront Summit. - Věda a technologie
“If I express myself I would lose everything, but what they didn’t tell me was I would find what I was looking for all along” okay tears are coming here we go….
Okay
Okay
What were you looking for? Your nail polish?
Lol 😅
Talking about how “They make up these issues to distract people”… I wish we would talk more about what they are distracting people from.
They make up these issues to get people to vote for them. Politicians *could* get people to vote for them by making voters’ lives better, but that runs counter to enriching themselves to the max. One of our political parties stokes bigotry, because the alternative is addressing economic inequality. Both of those options will get votes, but the latter costs them money (money they make because of economic inequality). One of the only two viable political parties in the US is not in this game to help their supposed constituents, and the other is, by and large. The fact that I don’t have to say which party is which and any reader, regardless of political association, knows which, speak volumes.
Is this the same guy that said there are not "perfect" victims, cause little girls are kinky and all kids are gays or less straights and narrow than their parents thinks?... he was talking about abused girls and child abused in general.. as far as i recall it. I would like to know what was that and how on earth someone would said such a vile thing but i dont see interviewrs ever ask him about that and other opinions and writing he has provided.
They did not say that, the quote was misattributed (posted by a different person), as well as taken completely out of context and twisted. Repeating dangerous misinformation about people is not ok.
@@meganfurlotte2684Naw....he's all about ignoring women and children's boundaries
Yes he wrote this and it was in a Facebook post. He talks about children being kinky and deviants. Anyone that describes kids as deviants is a predator.
@@meganfurlotte2684he wrote it on twitter.
Yep, Blaire White did a great job exposing him. I'm at the point that as soon as a Hollywood elite endorses something, I assume the exact opposite is happening.
So eloquent it’s amazing!
What are you gonna have for lunch?
I love this intro's passage! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I want a transcription of their every word, and I want to read, meditate, dream, live a beautiful life, and help make love, compassion, healing, and empathy go viral. Deep gratitude, ALOK.
I feel this
Seriously? 😂
He's a predator
😂
Pathetic
Alok is the person who described little girls as kinky, and that there is no such thing as a little girl who is an innocent perfect little flower. I am appalled that this predator is being given an international platform. I have no issue with anyone being trans. I have a huge issue with someone who uses that trans identity to deflect attention from their predatory views on little girls.
don‘t judge people by quotes taken out of context to make your soul ugly with hate, while all Alok ever does is encourage us to fill our souls with beauty.
@@nommh my soul isn't filled with hate, thank god. I still think his comments are worrying.
@@nommhdont judge somebody who said little girls are kinky? gtfo. you obviousky aint a parent
I read the post in full, it was not good. It was unpleasant to read, suggest you look it up
Bring ALOK and Camille Paglia together!
Two misogynistic, narcisist idiots? Only if they were confined to a deserted island and not allowed to leave. Paglia gets an axe to even the odds with the intact male.
Wow! That would be interesting.
This needs to get a lot more views.
No one cares to watch it....ok? It's a ridiculous man talking foolish
Yeah it's hilarious.
Yes we need more views so it becomes obvious that nobody likes or agrees with these pathetic losers on stage :)
Big love to Alok and Jamie.
7:30 he is definitely right about social media profiteering from hate.
"You hate me.."
Okay, that's where you stop listening to people like this.
Phenomenal talk ❤️
Jamie Lee Curtis, tool _extraordinaire_
Absolutely love! Alok is so eloquent. Brilliant!
such an incredible human being, everytime i listen to alok speak i learn and my mind is blown in the best ways possible
Indeed him saying little girls are KINKY, and need to be sexualised! SUCH MIND BLOWING incrediblness!
His like green is a gong right away. GONG GONG GONG GONG GONG GONG
The way Alok speaks is so healing, this gives me so much hope that maybe there is still some good left in this world and something to fight for
Yeah did you also like his pedo commentary and weird comments? weirdo!
Lol😂
delulu is the solulu
Lmao😂
nonce
This is a beautiful and wonderful video. I am so proud to be part of this community.
What is beautiful about it?
@@CEB731 Quite a bit!
Is this the Narcissist's Community of Shite Talkers??.
@@kaitlynr9271 Such as?
There is no community - because there are no actual completely shared values or aims unique to it. It's only a "community" when it becomes talked about as so in political discussions.
How to use as many emotional arguments to be the biggest non existent victim ever - should be the title
Alok you are beautiful, living poetry x
Yes especially his quote about Lil Girls being KINKY. He is our light!
@@lalareal180 Are you being sarcastic or just plain negative?
Beautiful....lololol
@@CEB731 sounds perverted
@@michaelpowell5055doesn’t have to be sarcastic…go research what was said about kids
Alok I bless you and thank you. You are a realist --- wise/understanding/exceptional. I stand with you. All free to express our individuality without censure for more than 40 years: ALL EQUAL. . We must forgive our lineages and bless and thank them. EVOLUTION (see the word love) is All humanity is learning to BE KIND> Respectful of our differences..
Wise? What the fuck twaddle did he just spout??
Dude thinks little girls are kinky. Why are you giving him air time.
Exactly this
Sick
the woo is strong here... dadadadadada... IS--- as dada does... WOO!
what a fucking incoherent joke
Love to see a weirdo who said little girls are kinky getting platformed. Yall crazy
Mrs Bates vibes.
Love shoes off
But I did that once in Thailand and I didn’t read the boat right
Unconditional positive regard to all
And peace
Read that boat right when you're in Thailand.
What a beautiful conversation. A very poetic rethoric ❤
pathetic rhetoric*
@@joshgorsky5224Yeah never heard so much hyperbolic shite
Beautifully done! ❤ Thank you!!
I am glad I saw this. I was unaware that all this was happening. I knew there were prejudices but didn't know it was this bad. Keep getting the word out there. Don't listen to those who are cruel.
It isn't happening that's why you didn't hear about it
Yeah there are absolutely physical attacks against gays but they happen so infrequently it’s why you don’t seem any examples on the news… and boy are they looking! Just like they fish for white vs black “hate crimes” and have to reach to the point where any time a white guy harms a black guy it’s automatically race related … Yet I don’t see anything on the opposite end when talking black crimes against whites
It isn't happening he's talking rubbish. Do a bit of fact checking oh and also look into his views on "kinky" little girls.
What a powerful, enlightening, insightful conversation!
trans activist Alok Vaid-Menon tweet saying that “little girls are kinky” and should be sexualised Are you a pedo sympathizer as well?
Really....how?
@@CEB731it requires brain cells you wouldn’t understand
He chuntered absolute pish - meaningless. We've all to feel sorry for him because women are telling him to get lost - I think that was the jist of it.
He speaks a lot of things. at the same time it’s mean nothing.
So beautiful and prophetic. Thank you
This opens up whole new levels of meaning to the words "disgusting", "fake"", "hypocrite" and "sick". I'm learning so much.
You left out, freak! He belongs in a circus in the freak show!
63% dislike
Ty
Alok, is such a gift ❤
narcissism is considered a virtue now
Obviously, this conversation went over your narrow mind. It's YOUR loss.
@@kriskabin so you’re of a similar ilk, verbose but lacking in substance. “Over your narrow mind” just mashed together 2 phases
Narcissism?What about authenticity?
Says who?
Trump yes..musk yes..not alok
You’re such an amazing and loving human Alok! Thank you so much ✌🏻💜
Amazing? How?
The guy who said that girls could be "kin...ky" too? Yes of course Jeffrey Epstein, Peter Scully, Woody Allen are amazing people too. After all, they share this thought with Alok too.
Alok is such an incredible speaker
Yes indeed. His speech about Little girls are kinky. was sooo amazing!
❤️❤️❤️ALOK, I STAND WITH YOU FUCK THE HATERS❤️❤️❤️
Learning about Alok, I didnt know abything before. Bit concerned by their comments about children in bathrooms. I'm not sure how you can justify those comments...
You can't justify his comments, because they're absolutely awful. He's a verbally talented, but still deeply wounded person and his ego would rather continue to peacock from podcast to podcast feeding off a perpetual life of self-created marginalization.
His, not they/their/them. It’s such bs he’s a predator and gets to prance around, say a few “fancy” words, and then get to claim neither male nor female. People who accept this are as confused as him, and are complicit in the breakdown of society!
OMG I love this Human!
Go Alok go!!! We love you
Beautiful!
A Hollywood star without plastic surgery, a rare gem
You're kidding...right? Lololol
How come Jamie looks more and more like a man recently...? This was a really attractive and good looking lady in the 1970s and 1980s...
thankyou for once again making me cry
so you think kids are kinky too huh?
Omg. Just because you are of a minority group, doesn't mean you are inherently marginalized. I say this as a gay woman. We deserve more than what we are told to receive. Please, young people who are lgbt in whatever way, do not internalize these types of comments. I don't say that because I think less of you, but because I think more. Alok has said some profound things, and I like their points of essentially intersecting where there is commonality, but generalizing people as "hateful" is manipulative. It only creates more divide and goes against their main message. It blows my mind that people are either choosing to ignore this, or don't see this at all. I have my theories that it's the former...
I am in awe of Alok’s beautiful mind and his stubborn resolve to embrace all of their humanity. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ We should fight for everybody’s right to embrace who they are.
Hello Silvana, Alok's pronouns are They/Them :)
pedo
@@moms4transkidsNobody cares
@@ayeright320 🤣🤣🤣
Not sure why you think I would care about what you care about! 😂😂😂
@@moms4transkids Well you bothered to try to bully someone who uses correct grammar into using some nonsensical grammar instead- so you come over as the kind of aggressive prick that cares about shit no one else does.
"It's easier for them to believe we are resilient than it is for them to remove the hands that are wrapped around our necks."
I love Alok
You a pedo too?
What? I dont think you have mythological power. I just dont want you sexualizing the whole of society only because your whole identity is sexual.
12:08 why would we ever wanna live in a world where people are hated for expressing themselves?
Alok changed my life. I can't possibly put into words how powerfully their love moved me. everytime i hear them speak i start crying and feel an impossibly massive, eternal love for my people. alok made me fall in love with being trans. a true hero
Oh my. Seek help. Immediately.
You're not trans LOL.
Non Binary people aren't trans. Stop disrespecting us, choose a path within the binary or leave. You are getting us killed.
It is this generation of non binary individuals who are offended at the word transsexual, so they change the meaning and now say it's an adjective, like short. NOOOOOOO. Lol. We are TRANS WOMEN. NOT WOMEN.
People like Alok, have only UNDONE stonewalls progress. And caused a massive divide. After they get the freaks, they're going for the dolls, then the gays. Trust honey.
the world is fubar'ed .......
Why are you even here
@@_new_french_touch_ why does your feet stink ?
@@_new_french_touch_ You should ask yourself the same thing because all you have to offer here is here are low-iq comments with no point to them.
Amidst all of the fear in the trans community right now I'm so glad Jamie Lee Curtis is platforming this wonderful speaker for all the good it does
Theres no trans community - its just a bloke talking shite
You've confused disgust with fear, son. Personally though, I'm thankful for all of the entertainment because I enjoy mocking these pathetic gender-obsessed losers of society.
All the good? Such as… invading women’s safe spaces? Sexualising kids and calling little girls ‘kinky’?
They're like tiktokers of biology. All wordplay and advice, but ZERO application in the real world.
Me me me me me me me me me
"There's been a lot of talk about us, but very little engagement with us." Children: "Hold my beer."
It's so curious how Alok affixes themself to celebrities.
Especially after saying little girls are Kinky!
Maybe he identifies as a barnacle
Because celebrities are freaks too...
Preach mama!🎉
when i found alok i found myself.
Lol
Truly
Hahahaha
Really?
You found a cult leader who worships disorder and filth, because it's wrapped in colorful garb and pretty words. Pathetic, shallow people!
👍👏👏👏✊️🩷🙏
Wonderfully shared! Let's make hate unprofitable. Healing is needed for sure. This is why I love Dr. Sue Morter's Energy Codes (book and teachings). A new perspective on life and not being afraid of our own light.
These comments are a trash heap. Alok and Jamie are wonderful human beings who deserve the world! What a lovely talk!
You agree with his take on kids and predators?
@@dogwater5499 extract from Alok’s blog: These forces have misattributed a 2016 Facebook status about girlhood to me that I did not write. These words, ideas, and life experience are not mine. This status - an analysis of a film I haven’t seen -- was written by a former colleague who was born female. The author states this in the text (“I have been a cute little girl”). This has been glossed over and erased in order to demonize and discredit me.
I have never been a girl. Anyone familiar with my life knows I am a non-binary transfeminine person who grew up a boy. For over fifteen years, I have written, spoken, and published a book about this experience.
@@dogwater5499 so maybe do some research instead of listening to right wing media 😊😊
@Sky O'Callaghan "I believe in the radical notion that little girls are complicated people. There are no fairy tales and no princesses here. Little girls are trans, queer, kinky, devious, kind, mean, beautiful, ugly, tremendous and peculiar." - Weirdo Alok.
@@dogwater5499 if you bothered to read my comment (if you can read that is) you’d know that Alok didn’t write that, it was written by a former colleague of theirs
I'm a gay white male. Yes it's easier than being trans. What my message is, is that all of us LGBTQ+ people need to start talking to each other in the community, let us lift each other up. The community has gone down the drain. All of us have to come together and speak and communicate with each other. Embrace each other. We have to strengthen the community in many ways, and then we need react to bigotry from a different angle. They are profiting off of us, lying etc. That's why we have to create a force and use it. More than anything, each individual needs to get loud and start talking. Thank you to yourself and also Jamie Lee for being there and conversations , listening and being there. So thank you to her. Both of you are speaking on touchy topics that is well needed and it was lovely. I do see and know what trans people are dealing with. And I always speak up , always. Whether I'm cis or trans, we are all human. Gay, trans, pan, crossdressers, drug addicts and the entire spectrum. Non-binary, asexual and so on. I appreciate what y'all did and with work , we can do this . The whole depression thing you said, I totally get that as an on again off again drug user. I get sober and start back, back and forth . It's tiring and hell, but I can't function in this world with no substance even if it's my cigarettes and caffeine or something else. I get it. We can lift each other. Great speaking. Both of y'all on stage. I will never be silent towards the trans topic. What's happening right now is fucking crazy.
What's happening is women are telling him to piss off. He is just a bloke and all this victim crap is all in his head
The definition of "bigot" starts off as "a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction". The only bigots I see are the people who are unreasonably attached to the belief that sex and gender are different. They are not.
@@meownhouse8809 Sex is real, you can't change it and in some areas of life it's important. Gender is old fashioned stereotypes that went out last century. People like Alok need to find something productive to do and stop analysing himself and making up labels... it's tedious
@@ayeright320 me? I'm no victim. I use hardships to my advantage and also to help other people. People being hateful and wishing people harm, it is a slap in the face. And bullshit. Because me just being a gay male, doesn't threaten anyone. As far as trans people, you don't have to agree or support them. They don't care. It's about respect. And if they're so bad, stay the fuck away. If women find trans people as a threat just because some of us look better; who cares. Trans people have known that from the start. And the fact straight men cheat on their wives with ladyboys all the time and it's actually common. People can think what they want. And most people....won't give a damn. All humans matter and if that's a problem, you're ignorant.
I get most homophobic and hateful comments from the trans community. I’m done. LGB DROP THE T
He's confused all of you into thinking that man or woman is WHO you are when in fact that's just WHAT you are it's not who you are. Most people don't pay attention to gender but those who do can dress however they want. Just leave everyone else alone. He doesn't do that
I’m in love with Aloks voice/perspective
Do you feel the predator vibes ?
In both...!
There is nothing wrong or harmful about this beautiful human.
Full stop. I would be honored for my 7 year old Grandson to be exposed to and learn from them.
Really? You'd want a child to be around someone who calls little girls kinky and deviants?
@@jakobjas4212You, of course, are twisting words most likely if not lying ooutright. Also you and your kind have taught me that on the right, every accusation made is projection, even an admission.
So you are the person I don't want my Grandchilld around.
@@jakobjas4212 right??? What the actual fuck
@@andreaskye You are saying you'd like to have your grandchild around some complete shite talking stranger who loads of people have told you is a pervert but not the people who tried to warn you. Hopefully you are never in charge of children because they wouldn't be safe with someone so stupid.
@@andreaskye" Every accusation made is projection" - are you aware of how the judiciary works you daft waffling loon?? 😂
I love you
Alok has made very questionable comments about children. Alok is creepy AF.
They are a visionary, reminds me of Larry Kramer and what he was saying in the early days of HIV/AIDS. Much love to you ❤
🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮
You’re so amazing Alok thank you for putting your life on the line by speaking for us trans/non-binary people.
He sure is putting his life on the line... eternity in H3ll is a long, long time....
He's talking utter shite. There's no such thing as trans - what he's seeing is people telling to piss off and leave women alone
I love them both so much
11:01 “Violence against trans people as a form of entertainment” Facts
Like his fake accent her is too fake
Corporation: Jamie Lee Curtis and brotherhood of confused pants.
Jamie seems to be seeking relevance here.
🤢🤮
Harass us in public everywhere we go…WHERE??
In his imagination
Thank God for gender or these deeply disgruntled souls who don't want to accept their gender would have nothing to push against.
So everyone’s completely OK with this weirdo saying little girls are kinky?!?!
This is a minority issue. The majority is heterosexual.
Their message went over your head; that's YOUR loss. Enjoy your confining, dark & h8filled life. 🙄🤣
@@kriskabin There is no message it's drivel. The majority are heterosexual so op is spot on
Powerful! I love you, ALOK. You are incredibly inspiring and beautiful.
There is so much wrong with what this guy Alok is saying. Seems to be an attention getting narcissist
exactly, narcissism dripping out of every pore and people think he’s profound! We’re in the twilight zone
👑❤️👑
"let's make hate unprofitable" - yes Facebook, we're looking at you in particular
Alok is heroic. I love everything about their work in the world. I love all my trans kin 🌈💖
Why how many have you got? Is everyone you know confused about what sex they are? Do you live in an asylum?
Jamie Lee was obviously born with a penis, so this makes sense.
Alok is like a little fairy
We are all made of flesh and blood, of light and ideas, of ephemeral and eternal, of effervescent and material
Live and marvel at all encounters 🙏
I agree with much of what they are saying, but it is so rehearsed and constructed that it loses its authenticity, feeling more like a campaign speech than a human expressing their story. Humour is important for meaning and effect, Alok lacks in this area.
This person Alok literally said "There are no princesses, little girls are also kinky" when talking about the potential of people using the guise of being trans to enter women's spaces and abuse women/girls. STOP GIVING THIS PREDATOR A PLATFORM! You can literally Google this and find the full quote. Appalling. Alok basically said kids are not innocent and may be "into" any potential abuse. I will post this on every video I see with them in it untill people see them for what they are.
Extract from Alok’s blog: These forces have misattributed a 2016 Facebook status about girlhood to me that I did not write. These words, ideas, and life experience are not mine. This status - an analysis of a film I haven’t seen -- was written by a former colleague who was born female. The author states this in the text (“I have been a cute little girl”). This has been glossed over and erased in order to demonize and discredit me.
I have never been a girl. Anyone familiar with my life knows I am a non-binary transfeminine person who grew up a boy. For over fifteen years, I have written, spoken, and published a book about this experience.
They did not say that, the quote was misattributed (posted by a different person), as well as taken completely out of context and twisted. Repeating dangerous misinformation about people is not ok.
@@meganfurlotte2684 Then how come "they" haven't come out setting the record straight? And why do "they" so badly want to get into spaces like bathrooms or changerooms with kids and women? Why do they and so many other people they associate with (people like Jeffrey Marsh for example) also advocate for kids to be involved in/attend drag shows or change their gender or learn about this type of shit before they're even in middle school? They're CREEPY. And even if it was another activist that said it, that quote is everywhere and the fact that they're not standing up and saying hey I've seen this around, I didn't say it and I actually think that sort of thing is disgusting, is problematic.
@@meganfurlotte2684can you quote what he said exactly then?
@@meganfurlotte2684Stop lying, dude!
Praying to the altar of Alok and Jamie Lee Curtis ❤🙏
Get a life. What a load of crap he talks
"Let's make hate unprofitable"
Alok is a predator
Alok literall opened up with...
"I liberate myself, and it might liberate others"...
Yet he said it in the most convoluted, pretentious, condescending, nonsensical, inefficient manner I've ever heard.
Well done.
Sorry, but this is people inventing problems because they want to be admired. It's bs start to finish. Just my opinion
It's right up there with the Holocaust buddy. Maybe even worse right? Sitting there with the freedom to complain. Yeah oppressed as hell.
Precisely
Groomer
Spot on as usual. Too bad Jamie Lee has to start the interview with a Marianne Williamson quote. Oof!
U have a vision of your life...but if you come public,u are expecting others to include you into society.its totally over expectation...as like you have rights to do this trash,others have rights to push back.because you are literally in society .it's common platform and not your home.
Nah, everyone gets to be who they are if it hurts no one. Sit this one out, bud.
@@_new_french_touch_You don't get to be a woman if you've got a cock and balls and XY chromosomes. No woman wants these dudes in the shower room with them
@@_new_french_touch_ You should work on your reading comprehension there, bud. Perhaps these comments are a little too advanced for your level of capability.
I would love to be on stage with this clown "Alok" because I would laugh in his face and I wouldn't be able to stop laughing. I think it would help him understand that nobody is going to take a man in a clown outfit seriously. Also woman-face is wrong on a man. It mocks women just like blackface mocks blacks.
I wonder how things would go down if he were to have a sit-down with Matt Walsh