r/AITA I Disowned My Son Over a Prank
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:08 Disowned
6:24 Swimming pool
10:13 Graduation party
11:59 Rude
13:22 Kicked out
"Sneaky Snitch" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) License: CC By Attribution 3.0 - Komedie
Had a bad take on the first story, so I'm deleting the commentary to not promote bad messaging.
I think my bias as a father is showing. I've got a soft spot for kids and can be overly lenient on them sometimes.
Don't delete it. I got your back. People are just being extreme with a take and don't fully understand
It's okay, everyone can have a bad take on the situation. Nobody is the perfect judge
Good call.
I am a mother too but you REALLY over did it, they need to be separated, the parent did NOT deserve 5/5.
Bro your allowed to have your opinion like everyone is allowed to object.. don't delete anything..
It’s not even a prank, it was straight humiliation. He outed his sister’s biggest and most shameful secret to everyone. There might be some missing missing reasons going on but regardless, he ruined her social life and made her into a target for harassment.
Agree this is the level of pouring pigs blood on someone during prom(Carrie)
@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64 I agree 100%. I seriously believe the son got what he deserved --A life lesson that bullying only brings pain to someone else! And what he did was unacceptable!
Was still funny tho
@@jackmanson2719 Excuse me, do you even realize that what you said is not only unacceptable, but heartless?! This is what enabling looks like! You don't ever promote behavior like this! I don't know what planet you're on, but bullying is NOT OKAY! I would be embarrassed for posting a comment like this! Better yet, I would take this heartless, dark comment down!
@@shyannamanuel5295 good thing I'm not you then
I'm with the parents on the first story. My younger brother became friends with my bullies and kept feeding them ammo about me. No one did anything, not my parents, not my other siblings. I am glad the parents in the story are standing up for their kid and I hope the sister recovers and the brother learns how to treat others.
My younger brother was getting bullied, so he decided to bully me (the autistic perpetual punching bag on the playground) to get them to stop. My parents did the 'just ignore them' route, only half-heartedly making attempts to tell him off because of their extremely non-confrontational (ie doormat) natures and their belief that 'he'll grow out of it'. But he's only a year younger and I knew that this was inappropriate, so why didn't he? They grounded him when they were telling him off again (with me in the room), and he snapped and shouted 'why do I have to be related to that freak?!'
He did grow out of it and genuinely feels bad about how he treated me, but it wasn't worth the trauma.
Standing up for their daughter is absolutely necessary. But discarding their son over a single act is abusive. They are terrible parents, and I doubt that it is in their daughter's best interests to be raised by people who think you deal with problem children by getting rid of them.
@@aum1040 They didn't 'discard' him. They got him out of the house and away from his victim, and made sure he had a roof over his head and people looking after him rather than just kick him out onto the streets. They haven't decided what they're going to do with him yet, and they're choosing to wait until they've had time to calm down to do so. Making hasty decisions out of anger is a bad idea, so this is the better solution.
@@SentaiYamaneko They are literally making him unenroll from his school. That's not something you do if you are deciding. That is what you do immediately after you have decided.
There's a word of parents like yours: enablers.
They see the abuse, they have the power to stop it, but couldn't be bothered.
I honestly think that destroys your self esteem more than the actual abuse.
I'm ashamed of those "friends" in the first story. If I found out my friend had false teeth I would not look at them differently, tease them, or even bring it up. It's not MY mouth. I can say that for sure as I grew up with friends who had disabilities. It's always been a sort of "not my body, not my say... unless you want help, then I'll help." But to hear a whole school turn against a little girl? That's heartbreaking!
What's worse is that this treatment will cause the sister to shut down completely. Having people you think are friends betray you let alone your brother. How to you trust people after that? She was already not removing her dentures in front of family.
Agreed. I'd really like to know who's raising me little monsters. It's like making fun of someone because they're losing their hair because of cancer treatment. I don't have kids. But in the future if I have kids and somebody tells me that they're bullying someone because of a physical ailment caused by a disease, the wrath of god is going to come down on those kids. I'm going to be going to therapy to figure out what the hell I did wrong to race such a terrible children. They'll be going to therapy too because there's obviously something wrong with them. Not that going to therapy means or something wrong with you. But the fact of the matter is if the reason you have to go to therapy is because you're bullying and mentally abusing a child with an illness or the repercussions of an illness. There's clearly something wrong with you.
I wasn’t the perfect kid growing up in a conservative and rather judgmental society. But even I wouldn’t dream of bullying my friend if I found out about her condition. Those kids are cruel.
You ever notice how it's always the abuser, after delivering abuse, to say " be the bigger person"?
"I'll be the 'bigger person'...when YOU'RE NO LONGER IN MY LIFE!!!"
Because that’s the abuser mindset. Abusers, generally, are born from a twisted idea of how relationships work where their victims exist for the sole purpose of bringing them joy. They can do and say whatever they want and their victim is expected to go along with it no matter how ridiculous it is, and if any flaws of theirs are ever pointed out then that in itself is abuse because relationships “aren’t supposed to be taxing”
That's the mentality of all society. It's never the one who strikes that is at fault. It's the one who strikes back that get punished.
I have been practising, literally in front of a mirror, the phrases 'you don't want me to be a bigger person. What you want is for me to shrink myself down to give the bully more space to thrive.' I also periodically do versions for 'her/him to be the bigger person' to stand up for others when I hear the phrase use don them.
Or the enabler of the abuser (which is basically the same thing anyways)
OP needs to do damage control ASAP. Either set a fire under the school administration’s butts to get on the bullying, or even move her to a different school.
School administrations do not give one turd about bullying.
I agree. The school administration needs to call the parents of each and every student who is bullying the child and tell the parents to parent their children.
I disagree with this. This is actually only going to make the bullying worse. If the school administration DOES do something (borderline impossible), the bullying is going to escalate. They’re going to blame her for getting them in trouble instead of turning their behavior around. And the parents of kids who bully will likely turn a blind eye because, “they’re just kids.”
@@ladysollua how do you know?
@@ladysolluathey don’t do nothing and the bully gets off Scott free
I think a lot of people are jumping the gun in the first story. OP outright said that the parents keeping the kid is an *option*, but they weren't sure yet because emotions are high. I firmly believe everyone needs some space to get perspective. That's a smart and adult decision.
Also, the kid is 16. He's old enough to know that it wasn't a "prank".
And in a situation he caused, his sister is vulnerable and at risk. She could become suicidal
@@sadpotato3386 Oh! That's a good point. I hadn't even thought about that side of things. Both that having him around could be worse and that she needs the extra attention right now.
@@lizziefirkey6385 Tbh, I don't think that's something that can be fixed unless he actually does a ton of work. I don't even know what the son COULD do to fix that. So, in other words he ruined the highschool years of his sister, traumatized her likely for years to come if not life and would likely make her suicidal. I'd say that getting to live at his grandparent's place for 2 years is a light punishment.
All of that makes me curious about RShlash's take he cut out.
@@sadpotato3386So true! It’s probably even safer for the brother as the sister is going through it and tbh sometimes when people get in that bad of a headspace they are prone to lash out, if the brother stays it’s likely if he will get hurt by his sister (emotionally or physically) out of ‘revenge’ or his sister is gonna hurt herself they defo need to be seperated
@@kaster15 rSlash gave the parents a 5/5 score because he as a parent to a single daughter that is like 2, knows what it is to parent and he will NEVER do that... That was his response. Not the first time he pulls that. He is in the honeymoon phase with one child at this age... and like to project how superior he is. So here you are, a 5/5 score reserved normally for murders, rapists, child abusers (what he has sometimes given a 4/5), ... All because the parents made a decision to protect their daughter right now from a abuser brother. They did not beat the crap out of him, they did not throw him to the street, ... no, they shipped him to his GPs... Wow, abuse... Those kids going to militair school because they gotten out of hand, is also abuse it seems (based upon rSlash).
When I was pregnant, the smell of specifically Dominos pizza made me instantly vomit. One day at a game night gathering, everybody wanted Dominos, so they ordered it. My husband got me my favorite bubble tea/Asian food restaurant delivered to be my dinner. I ate in the living room and they ate in the kitchen. It’s an open floor plan home, so we could all still converse, but I didn’t have to get sick from the smell. I would never expect my needs to be more important than everyone else’s, and I certainly wouldn’t have tossed out their pizza because the smell made me sick. I hate when people use pregnancy as an excuse to be entitled.
I think that's very mature of you, however (sorry to put thoughts in your head if I'm 100% wrong here) my wife had a similar situation where everyone wanted Chinese food but it made her sick during pregnancy. It was at our house so when everyone in the family was mad at her and being very very rude i gave them an ultimatum, no Chinese food or leave. The point is I think it's a bit of an orange flag that dominoes was ordered at all given the circumstances
Story #1:This is beyond bullying, besides filming her and showing everyone, there's a possibility he shared it too so its doing the rounds - the level of cruelty is indescribable. Some people may think disowning him is harsh, I feel allowing him living with his grandparents is punishment enough. You should also sign him up for therapy! If he's remorseful then try to build a relationship with him.. If there's no remorse then disown him!
yall have such ass takes its funny. kids do dumb shit all the time. what he did was terrible. he deserves a serious punishment and they need to find out why he did what he did. but DISOWNING HIM and ceasing contact because of a prank is actually so funny. hes 16 and wanted to be popular. people do worse stuff than that daily
@@dodgerblue482 Fucking and? Of all the reasons to advocate for leniency "People doing worse daily" borders on lunacy, no shit sherlock, that doesn't make this any better.
@dodgerblue482 that's not a prank though
@@dodgerblue482 this wasn't just a prank. the level of venom she was getting from her peers could have pushed her to suicide.
@@Arylwren1 if it was really that big a deal, the parents should do their job and parent their son rather than pushing him away to live with his grandparents. ESH, not just the son
Story 1: NTA bullying has NOT died down, and kids can be unbelievably cruel. Social media has made it a MILLION times worse. Seeing people do “pranks” on CZcams and TikTok and getting a million views makes these kids think it’s okay too, which makes it snowball.
Yeah, I can agree with that. I used to cry a lot. And someone even tried to take advantage of that to record me bullying is crazy fr
I have no idea how he thinks bullying has died down, it's easier than ever for them now with the current technology!
@@denjiisabendy3539 I had a Facebook page made about me in Middle School. Everyone used it to make fun of me. When I found it, I reported it, and it was taken down 5 minutes later.
@@billwithers4762 Probably from how involved in activism Gen Z is. Im older Gen Z, and while I can attest to that, the younger Gen Z was who was involved in GamerGate (which I was a victim of).
From my experience in person bullying as die down a bit. However, which the power of social media, those few bad apples can easily destroy a person. It’s easier to be an awful excuse of a human being online.
I have a daughter in high school now and I can honestly say that bullying has not gotten any better
Same here , my child is gay and we live in a more rural area. The Boys are so mean and my child has actually left school because of it and does virtual.
I was just about to say that. I’m older gen z and graduated in 2017. I was ruthlessly bullied through jr and sr high and faced a lot of homophobia and transphobia in my small hometown. The administration pretended it wasn’t happening and were complicit in my torment.
I'm 20 now and I left high school freshmen year due to severe bullying
Damn man I feel so bad, because I graduated from highschool class of 2023, and at my school, bullying and fights are almost non existent
Yeah it's somehow worse. And it's different. Seems more backstabby and vicious than when I was in school a decade ago.
My thing with the first story is that having the son continue living in the house directly puts the daughter’s social and emotional security in jeopardy. She already struggles deeply with having dentures and refuses to even take them out in front of her family, and he went out of his way to find some way to record her taking them out to humiliate her. Keeping him there would ensure she cannot feel safe in her own home.
Tbh I’d be asking the daughter and his school if he’s ever done something like that before but to a lesser scale because stuff like that doesn’t come out of nowhere. Either he has gradually gotten away with awful stuff and is becoming worse or worse, genuinely wanted to hurt his sister for whatever reason or was influenced by other pranks to do it. This doesn’t even feel like a prank though, it feels more like revenge or bullying.
Having him in the house posed extremely little risk to the daughter. He took one video of her and shared it. He had no history of doing these things, and there is no evidence that he is anything but remorseful. And this is as narrated by the monsters that got rid of their son over the incident.
@@aum1040 I've typed out the same paragraph twice only for it to be repeatedly deleted. As someone who went through a very similar thing to the daughter, that son poses a very immediate risk and threat. I'm still in therapy almost a decade later for what was done to me, though for me it was my skin, not my teeth
@@justaperson4656glad to know you support abandonment of minors.
For fuck's sake, that is an illegal act to just kick out a child. and that's exactly what he is. A child.
So was she. And yeah it was indeed shitty. But being shitty too doesn't undo it.
It's almost like (if it was all real) OP just wanted to get rid of the son.
@@aum1040 bullshit
That daughter will never feel safe in her home if the son is there. Imagine someone in your house, living with you, taking a video of you getting undressed and spreading it everywhere. You’d be so paranoid that they would do it again you would never feel safe, do anything you like, and will always watch over your shoulder.
This exactly!!!
@@desperateneedofscotch DUDE WHAT THE FUCK
@@desperateneedofscotch dude, he literally destroyed his sister's life and potentially made her suicidal by exposing something traumatizing that happened to her that she's still in therapy for
@@desperateneedofscotch wow... aren't you a ray full of empathy and compassion ... NOT! You sound like someone who would do what the brother did to his sister in story 1 - or worse.
@@desperateneedofscotch “Going to have to face this” No, she is entitled to her privacy, especially medical privacy.
Story 1: as a therapist that works with a lot of teenagers, bullying is unfortunately still very much alive.
Bullying will never go away. The thought that people will think that you are normal if you point out how someone is wierder than you will never go away.
Social Media DEFINITELY made it worse.
I'm grateful my younger siblings got it a lot better than I did, I think there's progress happening, but I know it sure as heck isn't the case everywhere.
@@desperateneedofscotch Those adults you're referring to WERE the bullies in school.
@@desperateneedofscotch agreed
I understand Rslash already sees his bad take, but something important to understand; as a parent, part of your job is to protect your kids, even from your other kids. And thats what the mom did. She put her son in another location where he would still be safe. And at the same time, removed a threat to her daughter's mental health and wellbeing. This mom is willing to make a hard decision to protect her children. Shes a good parent.
It reminded me of a previous aita video rslash did over two sisters and one sister breaking these expensive glasses that rendered the other extremely blind. That one wasn't easy for the parents and both sisters were early 20s late teens college aged.
I think she needs to take the further step of moving her daughter to a different school. It seems like the kids at her current school are treating her horribly and that the change in environment would likely improve things for her.
I can't fully blame OP for kicking out his son at 16, but if my brother publicly humiliated with something scandalous to all my friends, I think I'd find a way to make suffer for what he did, and hope the stars aline and karma gives him dentures at a young age
Is it really a "hard" decision for her though? IMO The hard decision would be to actually parent, washing her hands of her son and just writing him off as a person is literally the easiest thing you could do.
That’s not correct tho, not dealing and disciplining your own son by sending him away is extremely immature. He should make up for what he did, maybe get therapy too to correct his behaviour, not sent away like this. And i say this as someone who met very problematic people that in the end just needed help and someone to redirect and correct their behaviour.
The first story almost brought me to tears. As someone who's self-conscious about their appearance, I can't imagine someone taking photos of me when I'm at my most vulnerable and sharing them with people, let alone my own siblings! There's something wrong with that boy. How could you do that to anyone and think it's funny?! Also, her friends suck as well. I hope she can still have a great life in the future despite this trauma
there is one thing you are not considering... we only heard about the girl in this post. OP's son isn't mentioned up until she talks about what he did. We know nothing of his character, motives, relationship with his sister, or other factors.
Yes, he did an awful thing. And needs to be punished for it. But essentially throwing him out of his life? That's a step too far. And he'll never forget that. I wouldn't be surprised if he went NC with his family over this.
@@jorgefreitas5983 The problem is his sister is part of his life and he can't be around his sister because you don't put an abuser in the same room as his victim and expect him to stay civil when there are no eyes watching. What he did was beyond a sibling-bullying. If he can't be trusted to keep his sister's secret, what's stopping him from doing it to someone else?
If he truly regrets what he did, if he truly is more than what OP says, then he'll have to prove it. But not to us, the internet strangers. We don't have that kind of relationship or influence or even window into their lives. We can only believe what we're given. It's good to think "maybe OP is wrong" but we also have to be open minded enough to think "maybe OP is right."
@@jorgefreitas5983 It was mentioned in 1:01 that the two siblings were on good terms with each other until he did the prank, meaning not only was the act and especially the reason terrible, but it also counts as betrayal, because the Sister (And her parents) trusted him, and she thought that her friends would stay friends, so she had essentially been betrayed by more than 30 people at the same time. And if anyone says to just let kids do dumb things, then I pray for their future children, as those people will just enable what is essentially War Crimes: Kids Edition.
@@onekarodriguez3134 Just to be clear, I'm NOT saying the kid should go unpunished. I'm saying the punishment doesn't fit the crime. Yes, what he did was harsh, so be harsh with him. No more curfew time after school, take away his electronics/tv, no more going to parties or having friends over. Maybe even tell him his college fund will go towards his sister's treatment. But disowning him over this, uprooting this life and forcing him to start over? That's not parenting, that's called "getting rid of a problem"
Also, if they were "on good terms", where's his apology? I would expect OP to mention he did try to make amends with his sister, even if it was a half baked "I'm sorry". However, there is no mention of that. There's definitely more to this story than OP is letting us know. From my own personal experience, I'm getting golden child/scapegoat child vibes...
@@jorgefreitas5983 His true character was shown the moment he decided to do such a heinous thing to his own family. Theres no turning back from something like that. How his family chooses to deal with his behavior is up to them. What matters is protecting the innocent in this situation and the innocent is his sister. He did something unforgettable so he doesn't deserve to be forgiven
"aita for sending my 16 year old son to live with his grandparents after he publicly humiliated his already traumatised younger sister, initiated her being bullied by her 'friends' and entire school (the thing she was already terrified about beforehand), all of which is very likely going to lead to years and years worth of trust and anxiety issues, and worsen her already awful self image"
nta. lol. that was premediated as hell. he's old enough to know what he's doing.
Story 1: So when she was 8, he was 10. That's old enough for him have witnessed the entire ordeal she went through and understand how bad everything was. She probably struggled to get used to living with her dentures, which he also saw. She wasn't even into her double digits when she had to start caring for her mouth and teeth in a way that most don't until they become actually old! And he decided after all that to catch her taking them out and show her friends... Why? What on earth could justify this? How DO you get to be 16, see your sibling struggle with something, and think 'I'll do it 'cause it could be funny, I guess?'
Shame on those friends, too. Not one of them stood up for her? Not a single one of them said "So Sister wears dentures, so what?" That's so incredibly sad.
I don't blame OP for reacting the way they did. Her and her husband are very much in the "What the hell do we even DO about this?" phase, and them creating separation is kind of the right thing to do. It's unfortunate that it has to be so extreme, but since he is 16 there aren't a lot of options. He's safe with his grandparents, anyway. Probably feeling a lot safer than his sister does ATM.
The worst part some idiots claim there was favoritism but the truth is the brother was just jealous the sister was hanging out with the popular kids he tried to get with so he did this prank.
"What the hell do we eben DO about this?"
Consequences. But also: Introspective. That was one severely hurt teenager who decided to unleash his anger to the innocent sibling.
She was severely sick AND is struggling mentally to accept things they are.
That screams one overly protected kid and one neglected. Especially with the notion that girls need protection but boys need to be tough.
@@DigitalfairyThere was favoritism. I read the story over a month ago, and the comments that OP made about their son were very telling. The daughter was looked after more due to her dental situation, and the son was neglected. It’s a glass child situation.
@@Digitalfairywhere does it say the brother was jealous of his sister ?
@@oh.s still he is 16 he should have known better than ruin his little sister's life
Graduated in 2017. For where I was at, stereotypical bullying was down. But sexual harassment, sexual assault, and online bullying was RAMPANT
I also graduated in 2017 and bullying was actually a problem at my school but OMG the sexual harassment and assault was even worse. There were a group of guys literally known for waiting in the halls and groping/ slapping girl’s asses when they walked by.
Same. For every year til the end of school bullying got worse and especially girls was always the worst to each other, I literally don’t talk to any of them today because some of them still have the mentality if they were in school
@@Elijahmjo we had a few like that too.
I didn't get that, mine was all verbal and my neck was played with (I know, ew!), I was grabbed by the throat (also with a sexual undertone......) and I was stopped in the hallway by my arm being grabbed so hard, I had a red handprint for an hour.
I graduated in 2019! We had a couple of SA cases that were going through the court, teens sexually harassing others and ungodly online bullying through snap chat!
@@desperateneedofscotch yeah. many girls were inappropriately touched by guys. lots of non consensual kisses, etc. Of course the school did nothing
Story 2: Bold of her to assume the other kids won’t pee in the pool, no kid likes leaving the pool when they have to pee.
Or even some adults for that matter. Like my uncle
ikrrr, They all pee in the pool. Even adults. i dont think its possible to have a pool and nobody pee in it..
And people want me to believe that Ava's excuse wasn't fake as f*, that OP was in the wrong and believing otherwise would make others entitled and unrespectful of others properties...
OP's sister clearly targeted her nephew using a bs excuse as a shield to hide her dislike of her nephew and clearly used one of these fake apologies worthy of teenagers who got caught and wanted to be anywhere but there and got angry when it didn't worked.
I'd have got in her pool and instantly relieved myself
To all you people that pees in pools…. Your nasty and you damage pools when you do. The smell of chlorine doesn’t come from the chlorine. It comes from the pee, chlorine doesn’t have a smell. Think of the thousands of gallons of water the owner has to replace and the cleaning of the pool just because your kid can’t walk 20feet to the nearest restroom
ive been listening in for years now and usually agree with your takes, and i know youve realized your first one was bad- but as someone who grew up in a house with an older sibling who made it his mission to insult, hit, and hurt me every single day my entire life- a sibling who was so bad my parents sent me out of the house for a weekend because they didnt know what he'd do to me after his gf broke up with him- i still am hurt that my parents put his feelings and comfort over my mental and physical safety. they coddled him while ignoring me. so no, those parents were right to remove the threat for their other child. she cannot live in the same house as someone so willing to abuse her without causing even more serious emotional damage
Is that why the first story's rslash's take is cut off? Is this a reupload?
@@90sNathNot a reupload. He just cut that part of the video out with the built-in editor that’s only a available on the browser version of CZcams for some reason
“But he’s your son!” Children can be abusive and cruel too, not everyone deserves to be forgiven. Sometimes not even your own kid. What kind of son, brother, or even just a person, who would take something that their loved one is most insecure about, something with so much trauma behind it, and show it off just for shits and giggles? It’s hard to understand why someone would go as far as to disown their kid, but I really think if the same had happened to you, and you saw what it put your child through, you’d kick the person responsible to the curb as well. Even if it was another child of yours
the "he might have felt like his family didnt care about him" shit is wrong, full up. ive grown up in a peudo-golden child/scapegoat child household and guess what !! i was the one being abused by my sibling !! and guess who was the golden child ?? not me !
Totally agree: children can be cruel, they can be spiteful, they can even commit murder (or two ten year olds did in my country, it’s still talked about today for how awful it was)
Honestly this is a I have no son moment.
You can hold grudges to the grave, but those grudges will weigh you down.
@@VicGeorge2K6 in that case what do _you_ think the sister should do? Forgive and forget? Enablers are half these little sh*ts’ problem 😤😤😤
High school bullying is arguably worse now than it has ever been. In terms of physical acts, yes it is much lower, but that is because it has almost completely moved online where kids can strike at any time. People spread rumors faster than ever and there is rarely a chance for the victims to defend themselves. Victims can’t even just switch schools anymore since the perpetrators can still continue to harass them online.
not to mention the school is gonna do so much less about that over physical bullying. they can easily wash their hands of it with the "it's all online so it's out of our jurisdiction" excuse
@@faeb.9618 Especially after the transfer has already happened. A cousin of mine who lives in CAL and his classmates got random social media messages about a new student from bullies from his old school trying to turn the new classmates on the new person before they even got the chance to know them.
Just turn off your phone?
@@overaxel9498 Doesn't work that way.
@@desperateneedofscotch ay before I start getting heat I’m js trolling 😂 nah but let’s talk abt it for real I don’t agree that people under 18 shouldn’t be allowed to use social media I’d say people 14 and younger (middle schoolers) shouldn’t be allowed on social media freely
As somebody who lost all of their teeth by the age of 29 (but really didn't have any fux left to give) I completely understand how the daughter could be feeling in that situation and I think her little shit of a brother deserves absolutely everything that happens to him.
I’ve lost all my top teeth by the age of 25 due to a BAD abscess that didn’t take to antibiotics and went septic, so I either lost all my top teeth or die of septic shock, no brainer, take the teeth and let me live! But imagining someone then using that as a reason to harass and bully me, to mock me, video me without me knowing and spread that around the whole school? That’s a special evil right there, he deserved all the misery coming up in his life
@ZombieSazza so, instead of being a parent, you'd dump a child you raised poorly on other people?
@@joshuamcnally1604 I second this. Notice how OP doesn't mention her son in this story, despite taking a lot about her daughter. I feel like we're having a golden child / scapegoat child situation here. Wouldn't surprise me to see the son cutting all ties with his family when he grows up.
@@jorgefreitas5983 agreed like what the brother did was wrong but to disown him for 2 years which might as well be life is wild
@@joshuamcnally1604I mean. Yeah
For one reason or another there’s no world in which he can stay, but at the very least he’s not homeless in this case. They could’ve just dumped him on the streets and subjected him to the whims of the wilderness but instead they gave him a second chance at living a semi-normal life
As a junior who was bullied severely in elementary school, I can confirm bullying has just gotten more private and hidden. I still have biases against me and deal with a lot more hidden bullying. Ex: prank calls, online posts being stalked and mocked, people talking bad to any new friends/ boyfriends I have. It gets better as you get older but definitely not gone
That must be rough
In many ways, I am glad for the children of today for not having to go through what I did.
In many ways, I am not envious of children today.
My sister is a teacher. Multiple of her studens have been swatted.
As someone in Gen Z, depending on where you live high school is still brutal. Especially if there's something visibly different about you.
I agree. I'm a late 90s baby. Technically Gen Z but also a little millennial (1997). I was bullied brutally, not physically but mentally.
From my own experience middle schoolers are the cruelest but high school students are still a-holes
for me (2007) high school bullying is still very very common and can be really cruel, if people get a chance to bully you they definitely will especially if they can be anonymous about it, although where i go to school specifically it’s more fighting and pushing for a fight to start than bullying.. idk if it’s like that in other places though
I am also a Late 90s baby. Born in 1996, my middle school and the first half of high school years were garbage due the amount of bullying I dealt with. There were too many times when the teachers sided with bullies and made the situation worst.
I was born in 2003 and bullying was definitely around from elementary to high school. I didn’t experience it much in high school but I know people who were/are bullied
@@lanaanghel8771also a 2003 baby and I was bullied so much. The only reason I wasn’t bullied as much in high school was because I started being homeschooled (partially due to the bullying). The school I went to was known in the district for being full of cruel bullies. doesn’t help it was full of rich white kids
1st story. Tentative NTA. Rslash spent more analyzing the post than reading it, but didn’t realize parents never actually said “we’ve disowned him, decision made, are we TA?” They discussed something close to disowning him but acknowledged they’re too emotionally charged right now to make a decision. And given what their done did, I understand their feelings right now. Kid needs a big walk up call, and sending him to the grandparents for a while might be what he needs.
Agreed and either way, I'd say the parents aren't the butthole. Their son needs a massive wake up call, that was cruel since he knew and intentionally violated his sister's boundaries. If he's disowned, even temporarily, then okay because that was psychotic.
And I'm saying that as someone who's 29 and has a top denture (figured it was easiest given the recent pandemic), and I hate removing it in front of people that's family... And even most family members I'm anxious on removing it around them.
So yeah, NTA towards the parents. That kid needs a serious wake up call.
Nope, for story 1 the parents are right. What the brother did is straight up bullying and he probably never have his sister's trust again. I know for a fact I would never trust my siblings again if they ever did something so vile to me.
That isn't just bullying, if you ask me that's abuse
Yeah my brother abused and bullied me growing up, my mother just ignored it, told me I was somehow “just as bad” for defending myself against violent attacks, mocked me for asking her to call an ambulance (from Scotland, we have NHS, it’s literally free) because if suffered concussions, and enabled his abuse. It’s just horrendous bullying and abuse, and in the end I went complete no-contact and haven’t spoken to either of my abusers in several years.
That’s what happens when a parent decides to favour one child and completely ignore the bullying and actively encourages it, they lose contact and get completely cut off. Folk know how much of a bully my brother is, he’s harassed so many of my female friends and his own female friends, he’s had to move several towns over because he groped several whilst threatening, harassing and bullying them if they ever spoke up. He hasn’t outgrown this bully boy attitude and he’s 30 now, he just doesn’t care and is completely selfish, self absorbed, a bully through and through, he thinks he’s untouchable because my mother refused to discipline him or hold him accountable.
And that’s what OP did, she held her son accountable and protected her daughter, sometimes you need to protect your kid from your other kids, it’s a hard decision but you gotta send the message “bullying is NOT okay” and he needs to learn harshly, otherwise he’ll legit end up like my brother, and nobody needs more dudes like that in the world!
Changing schools would probably be good for her. The son and parents need family counseling and he needs individual counseling (She probably needs therapy, too). He should also be grounded with no social media and a long list of chores, because he needs less free time, and he should be withdrawn from all extra-curricular activities. He should get a job, because when he turns 18, he'll need to be out and on his own.
That might be good
Story 1: NTA. This guy is 2 years apart from being a full time adult. What he did was not a prank - he devastatingly humiliated her. If he does not learn that his shitty behaviour has consequences NOW - he is going to have quite a rude awakening later in life.
if that was my son he would lose his teeth. eye for an eye.
Thank you both for understanding the severity and being good parents/future parents. My brother assaulted me constantly during my childhood and my mother did nothing to stop it. I cant believe Rslash gave 5/5 for this. Unbelievable. No its NOT OKAY. That girl will now suffer LIFE LONG TRAUMA because of this.. same as I am now. My mother never cared and it warms my heart to hear from a mother who DOES CARE and understands that if one of the kids is tormenting the other then they MUST GO in order to protect the victim. Rslash got this so wrong.
@@MalloriaAnn It's not like rSlash never messed up AITA rating in his videos. He did. Quite alot actually.
Agree. Son was straight up abusive. I wonder if he got it from tiktok or something or if he was just really cruel. Some more distance between the siblings is good. Maybe therapy later. Yes she is still the parent, but she did not kick him out. The grandparents are trusted guardians so this is okay in my book.
yeah but disowning is a step too far as rslash said, IMO disowning is for when someone does an unforgivable act such as murding or other equally horrible crimes, the brother needs severe punishment not abandonment since that will leave him to fester alone.
Story 1: Nta. If the son feels zero guilt for what he's done after being sent away for it, then he's a monster. That's no prank, that's cruel
Yeah, I'm sick of people making excuses for the son and even assuming he's being neglected BS. It's still bullying and the girl will be traumatized for life, she might even be suicidal because of him but no people are whining "he's just a kid, it's not like he assaulted her!" Ugh, yet he assaulted her confidence and tranquility.
@@Digitalfairy The thing is he really is just a kid. I dont think he grasps the extremes of what he did.
@@springs992216 is old enough to realize you dont fucking do that
@Digitalfairy I agree! The son literally ruined the daughter's life. Not to mention, he destroyed his own future because he pulled a Publicity Stunt!
What example are older children setting?!! I'm the oldest, and this makes my blood boil!!
@@shyannamanuel5295 not to mention he could've pushed his sister to suicidal thoughts. But you said it the best honestly
And as an oldest sibling too, im so horrified
I don’t know what gives you the impression that bullying is gone, but it’s not. Bullying might even be at its worst, my brother is in highschool and the kids are truly the worst people I’ve ever seen on the planet. Bullying has only gotten worse and nothings being done about it
Rslash’s kids must be toddlers or small children yet, seeing his rose tinted view on school life. He is saddly in for a rude awakening
At this point i am almost convinced that rSlash has the occasional bad take every once in a while on purpose just to set the comment section on fire and create "engagement"
I can believe that. He used to get 1 million+ views on his videos and now he doesn't.
My brother did something similar to me when I was 10 and he was 17.
My parents chose to keep him at home and punished him.
And I’m still messed up to this day. Even though they’re all dead now, I’m still here wondering why my parents thought the absolute trauma I went through was worth just ground my brother for a couple of months and thought that was enough.
Living with someone who basically destroyed your confidence, your social circle, and what as a young person is your entire life makes you constantly fear and wonder when it’s going to happen again.
Not if, but when.
There is nowhere to escape from not only the torment that you’ve suffered, but the tormentor that put you through it.
I sympathize with you. Did your parents get you therapy? did your brother ever apologized to you - even if you felt it didn't come from his heart?
In my family's case, a situation like this happened between my mother and her father. My grandfather threw my mother out, and as a result she went NC with them for the best part of 30 years. In the end, me, the grandson, lost a lot of time I could have spent with them. I didn't even know they were alive until the very end.
I wish it was realistic to expect the parents of every single kid that bullied or texted that poor girl to be made aware of the things their kids are saying.
As someone in Highschool and the same age as the son, bullying has not died down at all and only gotten worse with social media. He knew what would happen if he did that, he’s cruel and awful and I don’t blame the parents at all for disowning him.
Story 1: I've faced this before as well, and would like to extend a message to kids and young adults about dentures and scars, the world put so much pressure on looking beautiful to the point of doing this without really understanding what scars and dentures are.
I was in a bike accident when I was 18, it broke three front teeth and pushed them through my top lip, and my legs have reynaud's syndrome which often leads to pettichea and bad infections , and as a result my legs are covered in brown scars that will never go away because of the poor circulation.
In college for animation, they teach us to visually tell the backstory of a character in their design , and scars and missing teeth are apart of that, they're markers of a survivor .
People mock others for surviving through things they will most likely never have to go through , wear dentures and scars with a little bit of pride, it is a mark that shows your stronger then the people mocking you.
I don't hide my scars and I won't replace my denture because they remain a way to tell my story, and try to instill a better sense of care.
People want to mock my missing teeth? Let me remind them that servicing your bike and helmets can be the difference between life and death.
Mock the scars on my legs? They show the world a small peice of the unimaginable pain Im in on a day to day basis , and you know what ? I don't wollow.. And I still walk on the legs that hurt like hell. I am far stronger than anyone who thinks teasing me about .
Nta: the son's insecurities are showing, he should consider himself lucky to not have dentures, and be proud of his sister for surviving.
Rslash, I can tell you have never been through an accident or medical issue like this. And I hope you won't have to see your daughter go through this, but you won't really get the anger and fear that can spread from watching your kid go through a medical emergency . I can understand the parents , they were in the right. I hope getting shunned will be the metaphorical kick in the teeth the Son needs so he won't need a literal kick in teeth to understand how his sister feels.
Story 1 nta I heard this one before. This wasn't a prank. This was just cruel and evil.
Yes. That wasn’t a prank that was friggin thermo-nuclear revenge!
I agree, he kinda deserves this
Agreed. I think RSlash was a little harsh on this one.
@@TFTN_officialbut revenge against what? Living?
I get it was evil but disowning ur child is insane. A severe punishment is needed but outright disowning is insane
Initially, the title of the first story had me feeling kinda uncertain on how a prank can be that terrible. That said, what the son did was absolutely reprehensible.
Some serious counciling is needed for the son so they can learn to be a better person after such a terrible action as that 'prank', as I guarantee they knew full well what they were going to do was terrible. Not so much the outcome of what their actions would be, but he knew he was making a mockery of his sister's biggest issue in life.
Disownment seems a bit quick to jump to and should have been what followed unusccessful counciling and therapy, so i hope we get some updates from the OP to better close out the events that transpired. Even then, I struggle to level too harsh a criticism towards the OP because that... That wasn't just a prank; that was a calculated and evil move by the son.
One of the most logical comments about Story 1 I've read. Disownment is still a possibility, but only after dissecting why and offering reconciliation
Honestly, I see the son moving to her grandparent to be the kindest thing to do to both of the kids. If the son was allowed to stay in the house in any capacity, the daughter would 100% suffer, with or without counseling to both kids, so at the bare minimum, in the foreseeable future this is the best call
See idk bout disownment that’s up to the parents and their feelings regarding the sons actions and the fallout this could’ve had on the sister, especially considering how far it would reach into her life,
Sometimes there is indeed no going back, the phrase “Forgive but don’t forget” comes to mind, and there are some things u can do that just completely upend the relationship. My first thought was “what if she killed herself?” His sister was a mentally self conscious person who had her entire life image and reputation destroyed and was tormented and abused by this, the possibility this could’ve or still could cause a death or suicide is way to high in my mind and I’m 22 with no kids, I can’t imagine what I’d feel as her parent
That being said while counselling and working on why he did this are important he needed to be out of that house for an undetermined amount of time until some serious progress could be made. There was no way in hades they would be able to live in that home and have any productive progress
As a 16 year old, this kid is bad. Like I'm willing to say some fucked up shit but I'd never ruin a kid's life for kicks let alone my fucking sister. This kid is messed up in the head and like you said he needs counseling, like, bad.
@ryancamara5689 listen, I'm 31 and my sister is 19 and we DO NOT get along.
But never in 100 million years would I EVER. EVER. EVER. EVER. Record an issue she's self conscious about and put her on blast the way this brother did- AND THEY HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP BEFOREHAND.
What he did is vile and disgusting and I hope he understands that he not only broke trust with the ENTIRE family, but-most likely- for the rest of his life, his family is going to assume that he IS that terrible person.
I 100% agree that counseling and getting to the bottom of why he did it is important, but also that you're right in saying that he shouldn't be in the house, as nothing productive will come of it.
That poor girl is now going THROUGH it and all because her prick brother wanted to play a "prank". Just...wow.
The story about the rude question following a rude question had me dying! I love it when people have quick wit. NTA. If anything, he deserves a gold star for that comeback. 🤣
I say this is the comment that deserves a gold star! And yes, @rSlash, nice bad guy score here.
I really support you on the first story though. You're a father and I understand
Did the woman getting back a rude question deserve 1.5 butt holes if on all four and two if on her back?
I am a high school teacher and bullying is HORRIFIC now. The WORST thing a parent can do is give their child 24/7 access to a cell phone. The VAST majority of bullying does not happen in school but on the internet. Videos, pictures, cruel memes, insults, you name it and it can be sent to a kid all the times. It is zero wonder why Gen Z is anxious, they get told horrible things by their peers all the time. That first story, I have to say, the parents sending the son away is one of the best options. He needs to realize how EVIL what he did was. If you love someone you would NEVER do something like that. Personally, I would advice OP to contact the school and explain the vile harassment. I would even show the school what is going on and then I would start going to the parents and showing them just what crotch goblins they produced.
Yea I know a lot of bullying happens online but kids having phones isn't the problem
@@bigjalapeno7061 phones are a MASSIVE problem and not just bullying. Research has been done that phone usage contributed to a LOT of problems in teens. Ranging from impatience to mental health. Honestly the worst I know is the lack of sleep. Many of my students will stay up till the early morning and get 2-4 hours of sleep. That is not good for brain development.
Rslash, I work in middle school and bullying is WORSE than it was when I was younger! It's AWFUL!! Kids are EXTREMELY cruel!!
I taught at a middle school last year and OMG was the 7th grade class the WORST. Our school got the rep of having the worst bullying in the district with the most student transfers out of the school due to bullying. Whenever myself or other teachers tried to correct/punish the bullies, admin and parents would shut it down and say, “oh well what are YOU doing cuz my kid doesn’t do that at home” 💀 one kid purposely scoped out where there WEREN’T any cameras, then would slam his backpack into kids to shove them into the lockers, shove them onto the floor, and hit them upside the head while his goonies would laugh at them. 23/32 of my students in one class period had been assaulted like this by that kid. Bullying is WAY worse than when I was in middle school because parents condone the behavior and get pissed at teachers for trying to stop it.
@@SansUTx I COMPLETELY agree! Sometimes the parents are worse! It's crazy you say that! My school is the worst in my district too!!
Rslash, I was a substitute teacher for 5 years, and have family with kids still in school, and yeah your impression of bullying being gone is wrong. In reality *IT'S SO MUCH WORSE* than it ever was when I grew up in school. Kids have become a lot more comfortable being hostile to anyone and everyone, and that is tenfolded when they got the anonymity behind fake snapchat where their actions most likely will not come back to bite them. There are some kids that are taking sick leave from school because it's so bad, and the school while being aware of the problem, in most scenarios don't even have the tools to deal with it. Bullying someone anonymously 10-20 years ago was so much harder to do, but now there are tons of apps that make it convenient to do so. It also doesn't help when kids as low as 2nd grade feel comfortable calling eachother and their teacher bitches and whores.
Also aweful judgement, son deserves everything he's getting, hell even assuming the daughter is a golden child, OP made the right call to distance him from the family. Having both children in the house while they are growing up is honestly a domestic violence incident waiting to happen between them. Son is old enough to know that actions have consequences, and what should OP honestly do in this situation to remedy the situation between her children? If the son was punching her daugther, should either of them feel comfortable with him in their house? if no, then why this emotional abuse?
That was not a prank, that was absolutely cruel, social media has made bullying so much worse. I got bullied in high school, it's been 13 years and some of that bullying still has left lasting effects on me.
If I was the parents of the kids in the first story I would move. Bullying never changes unfortunately 😔 and a fresh start for the daughter is needed. And I would ground the son for a long time as well as getting him therapy to realize just how awful his "prank" was to his sister, because he traumatized and humiliated her. Also I hope the daughter has upped her sessions. What a terrible situation :(
Bullying has not died down at all. It’s gone digital and I would argue even worse now a days
Definitely way worse than even when I was at school. We had the beginning of social media with MySpace then early Facebook and twitter but smartphones weren't particularly common until I was mid teens and definitely weren't used to the degree that they are these days. Kids these days are constantly connected through social media and bullying doesn't stop after you get off the bus, it continues 24/7 with no real way of escaping it because even if you go to the absolute extremes like changing your number and deleting social media these people will find a way to worm their way into every aspect of your life and make it hell or the complete isolation after being connected to people your entire life will destroy your mental health. Young people are dependent on that connection through technology (through no fault of their own) and because of that bullying is thousands of times worse than it was 10 or 20 years ago when rslash and many of us were leaving school.
@@Lilith-Rose It's incredible how, as absolutely horrible bullying was when I was a kid in the eighties and nineties, it has somehow managed to get even worse. Yet here we are.
@@dinohansen5074 I count myself somewhat lucky that I was in school in the 2000s and early 20teens, yes there was much more open homophobia and transphobia by even the staff and less tolerance than there is these days, along with the good old physical assaults etc but I just barely escaped social media and the related torment being so pervasive. It was getting there in my late teens but I was able to switch off from it because I hadn't grown up with the constant unsupervised access to the Internet and was old enough at that point to partially realise how detrimental it was (although it did still take a toll on my mental health, just for different reasons). School life was hell back then but I would take that any day over what kids are currently dealing with that are so much more common than they ever were like the sexual harassment and getting pressured into sharing explicit images and videos while underage which then get leaked or spread around etc and so much more. Someone I know works in a safeguarding and mental health role in a school and the things that some of these middle school aged kids are going through are absolutely soul destroying to hear
The only difference between "old school" bullying and the modern one is that now the bullies are cowards hiding behind a computer, you can't punch a computer to solve this type of bullying...
In fact, I'm not even sure police or even a lawyer would even help here.
It’s still physical too. I commented this on another teacher’s comment but the story still applies:
I taught at a middle school last year and OMG was the 7th grade class the WORST. Our school got the rep of having the worst bullying in the district with the most student transfers out of the school due to bullying. Whenever myself or other teachers tried to correct/punish the bullies, admin and parents would shut it down and say, “oh well what are YOU doing cuz my kid doesn’t do that at home” 💀 one kid purposely scoped out where there WEREN’T any cameras, then would slam his backpack into kids to shove them into the lockers, shove them onto the floor, and hit them upside the head while his goonies would laugh at them. 23/32 of my students in one class period had been assaulted like this by that kid. Bullying is WAY worse than when I was in middle school because parents condone the behavior and get pissed at teachers for trying to stop it.
Story 1: completely disagree with Rslash here, NTA. The son literally ruins his sisters school life, and for what reason, a prank?!? There’s also no evidence to assume that the son is in the shadow of the daughter and is unflavoured, there might even be a reason for it. Also there’s no reason that OP should have a higher AH score than the kid. I think Rslash has some kind of sympathy for the son that I just can’t agree with.
right, but the thing is this isn’t something to disown over. like sure keep them separate but throwing away your child is crazy
They didn't really disown him. They sent him to live with the grandparents. Kid still has a safe roof over his head and all his needs met. Considering he caused his sister much more trauma and even ADDED to it since half the school is bullying her over it now, I say being sent to live with the grandparents is a just punishment. What is his consequence here? Moving schools? Boohoo.
Rslash decided to just delete the whole commentary from the video apparently??
Unfortunately, kids becoming mean bullies without the parents even knowing about it can happen as we've seen this happen in a previous story rSlash read, about this kid being taught responsibilities by the parents, but the kid becomes this mean person who picks on a maid they have and they were shocked at their kid for it, they punish them and the kid runs to OP's ILs and they scolded at them for punishing them, even though the kid was being mean to the maid. This can be caused by anything, maybe their friends at school molded them to become this way, maybe someone in the family molded them to be this way behind the parents' back like what is evidently happened in that other story I showed where it's pretty much evidence that the ILs shaped the kid to become the snob the kid was without the parents knowing about it. It's entirely possible that the same thing happened to OP's son here, perhaps by the friends he's made at school if I had to guess.
"Inappropriate question" story: we gotta stop punishing people who retaliate and coddling the instigator. Like as a society, we gotta. "Zero tolerance" always translates to "punish the victim for fighting back".
Yea that is pretty stupid
Story 2: why didn’t the host of the pool party make this clear when she issued the invitations? She just let a whole ass baby show up to her pool party, ready and excited to swim, to turn said baby away right to his face. WILD, could have been a text WEEKS in advance.
ETA AND THE BABY IS HER NEPHEW?!?! Are we really gonna pretend Ava wasn’t being a HUGE AH here??
Especially since we all know that the potty trained kids are definitely going to pee in that pool anyway
I'd say Rslash gave it the perfect score. It's the aunt's pool in her house, so it's her rules. But it's also a pretty asshole move to invite people for a pool party amd single 1 kid out to not join. But the way OP was sounding in that post, it seems she is a very sensitive person. There's disagreeing about something, but then there's going over the top about something pretty minor. The kid isn't even potty trained, which means they won't even remember this. OP is the only one who was really hurt by that, when she should have just acted like an adult and respected the rules
@@codyjohnson6427my thought is if the aunt ends up having a baby she would 💯 let that kid swim in the pool potty trained or not
@@zerobolt9506 ok but if it's her pool then she should be able to decide whether or not someone gets to piss and shit in it, no?
@@codyjohnson6427you would be surprised what little kids remember
Although I don't have all of the details I remember my father telling me not to cry cuz he thought they were crocodile tears that memory has stuck in my brain and with such clarity that I can even remember his tone of voice as he said it
Although that nephew won't have all of the details he will remember the unfair feeling he had when that Aunt told him and specifically only him he couldn't swim cuz of something he couldn't even control at the time
6:23 heyo rslash, I'm a Gen Z, and I promise you, highschool bullying is so brutal in my time where even teachers are taking the sides of the bullies and joining them to gang up on me. To the point i have to transfer schools 3 times and have to take antidepressants and see a psychiatrist because of how severe it is. I appreciate you giving the son the benefit of the doubt, but I lost sympathy on a bully like OPs son.
The son got 5/5 AHs to me and OP got 0/0 AHs.
Now I'm curious what the hell his take was on the first story. What did he say that was so bad that he went back and deleted the take, ruining the audio/video sync in the process as a result?
He didn’t delete
@@obinnaanyadiegwu8080his comment on the first story is no longer there. I was surprised that there wasn't a comment or rating from Dabney on the first story, and didn't know he had made a comment or rating until I was reading all the comments
I'm looking here and it appears people saying what sums up to be him having sympathy for the kid and saying that the parents were cruel for disowning him.
Rslash, I’ve disagreed with PLENTY of your AITA takes before, but this one really takes the cake. The 16 YEAR OLD son in story 1 literally RUINED his sister’s life, almost everybody around her except for her parents are relentlessly bullying her for her disability (if that counts as one) that she hasn’t told anybody outside of her household because of how insecure it makes her. This all literally adds more trauma to the poor girl and adds pressure to the parents because now they might have to resort to moving the daughter into another school because the bullying got so bad for her. Not only that, they probably have to take extra precautions around their daughter now because the result of this bullying because of her own brother could lead her down a dark place mentally. And despite all of that on their minds, OP STILL did the right thing by separating the daughter and the son and making sure the son was brought into a safe place, whether temporary or permanent, instead of just kicking him out on the streets (and most parents do that with their kids for less harmful and more ridiculous reasons!) yet you to still shame OP and give them a 5/5 butthole score? It just doesn’t make any sense to me. The son in this story needs a HARSH lesson that he needs to learn from this and needs to be held responsible for the consequences of his actions. He’s 16 and about to become an adult, not a 12 year old. If he doesn’t learn from this, then who knows what he will do when he turns 18 and possibly becomes independent. 0/5 buttholes for OP, 5/5 buttholes for the brother.
I didn't even hear Rslash's commentary but the comments say it all. He forgets that social media and bullying like this often lead to some of the worst decisions a young person can make. Giving him a 2 year break to consider how badly he screwed up is fair. Unfair would be doing that AND making the brother pay for his sister's therapy by taking away college funds, graduation presents, allowance or more as a punishment.
Yeah, and those idiots making excuses for the son's behavior are SO naive. What? do they honestly think Teens or kids can't be cruel just for kicks?
could you tell me what his take on it was? i didn’t get here early enough to see it before it was deleted.
no worries if not
@@shannonos8f it was what I heard he basically called both sides the asshole but the parents more so. Mainly cause he speculated on the story that it seems odd for an 16 year old to do that to his sister so perhaps there was favoritism or something similar that led to him pulling that.
What he forgets is CZcams pranks normalize doing horrible things to people so it could have been learned behavior from the internet so he thought it was ok to pull an prank in his mind that destroyed his sisters social life
Basically he speculated an worse case scenario and judged it on that for the parents when while possible it’s also possible this came completely out of left field due to online behaviors so I personally would rate the parents 1.5/5 but an justified 1.5
Eh, don’t misunderstand me, I completely agree that ops child is a monster and he deserves the worse, but I do believe that op sending him away isn’t fixing anything. I don’t know how to fix this and I’m not saying the teen deserves redemption, but the fact that his only ‘“punishment” has been to be sent away is in my opinion not appropriate for what he did, op hasn’t even talked to him. so while I’m glad the daughter doesn’t have to see her pos brother, his punishment hasn’t been dealt correctly yet.
Story 1, Regardless of their inability to think about consequences, that “kid” is 16 and knew how insecure his sister felt about her teeth and decided to be cruel anyways. I have a partial denture because of a bad past relationship and those closest to me know about it but it is still so embarrassing and I hide it as much as possible. I couldn’t imagine dealing w this at 14 and then the whole school finding out and teasing me for it. Poor thing 💔
That's not a brother. That's a bully in your own home. Pathetic
so why give op 5/5 buttholes and not the son, who literally ruined all of his sister’s friendships and who is now being bullied at school? when you’ve read other stories about parents ‘pranking’ their children or the $20,000 coat story, the instigator was the massive butthole. but now it’s the one sticking up for the victim?
maybe there is a better punishment that could be done, but those two need to be separated for the time being-which they are. maybe in a few months, things will have calmed down and they can try family therapy. maybe things will never change. however, the daughter at the moment takes priority as she’s the one who just had her life ruined.
I don’t think he’s ever given 5/5 buttholes to kids cause they don’t have the mental capacity for sound reasoning
@@haris2761i think this one should be the exception of that rule tbh
r/ is a father, his views on children are skewed that way.
@@RPGPaendanah, rape and murder is the exception to the rule.
You don't really know the sons perspective here. As rslash said, could be that he has been neglected all his life and decided to get some payback, not nice but its the actions of someone who's been deeply hurt.
Alternatively he could just be legitimately stupid and not necessarily cruel.
Kids, including 16 year olds dont just do this without someone sort of psychological problem.
Sounds like you missed the bit about rSlash's speculation about how there's a possibility that OP and her family likes her daughter more than she likes her son, almost like the daughter is the golden child and her son is a scapegoat. Again, this is just rSlash's guess.
Story 2.
I said it in the original post, but this is somewhere between nta and esh.
The aunt basically facilitated a meltdown from a 2 year old by not allowing op to properly prepare him. Does he only wear the nappy for accidents? Because I doubt a 2yo has no control over their bowels.
Op, had they known, could have brought a small blow up pool for the child and made him feel special instead of excluded.
The aunt, as a mother herself, should have known better.
I'd be pissed as well if my sister gave me such poor communication.
exactly what I was searching for in the comments. you don't invite people to come over and seim in you're pool and then not mention oh non potty trained kids can't swim until they're there and getting ready and not be an asshole.
The thing that gets me is it's common knowledge that human feces is toxic. We're not talking about pee. That's the comparison people keep making which is blowing my mind. There are chemicals that are able to get rid of urine. But if somebody gets shit in your pool you have to drain your pool. Which is extremely expensive. I have an Eco pool. Which means there's little to no chemicals in it. There is absolutely no un potty trained kids. Because like I said p is one thing. Human feces is another. If I had to drain my pool it would kill all my plants. It would kill all the dragonflies that I brought into keep the mosquitoes away. It would destroy the delicate balance of an eco pool. No absolutely not. Yes, feces can and does leak out of swimming diapers or swimming shorts. All the time chances are if you go to a public pool and it's closed because someone pooped in it. It was a baby and I was swimming diaper.
Bullying is still the same. I have a 13 year old niece and she’s having a worse time than anything I ever witnessed in the 90s/2000s
Story 1: What are you smoking, Dabney? How is the mom a bigger ahole? Separating the two was very smart. He's 16, not 6.
Only thing different should be that the daughter stay with the grandparents so she can get away from her bullies
@lorilancaster5917 I could argue both sides of that one. Sending her away could feel even more isolating, especially in those first few days.
I thought I was the only one
@@rickyburnett413Not at all.
@@gilded_lady I see where your getting at but wouldn’t isolated be better than being harassed? Also if they hypothetically did this, I’m sure they would visit as often as possible. Call frequently I’m sure too.
story 1 NTA
That is like letting a someone attack a Cancer Patients RSlash, That Poor Girl Lost all of her teeth, she had some level of trust that was ripped from her. That Son fucked up majorly and ruined her Support Group.
The son’s feelings don’t matter because he’s the cause of all the torment his sister is going through. Whether he feels sorry or remorse for what he did or whether or not he found it funny does not matter because what matters is his victim
Yea exactly
@kungfupanda5363 you don’t know anything of the son. Maybe he acted up all the time and this was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Stop siding with the boy for something you don’t know. In this situation his feelings don’t matter because he caused people to harass his little sister because “I thought it would be funny”. Screw him.
@kungfupanda5363 yeah? And you told your parents everything huh? The kid tormented his sister, if he was my son I’d hate him, even say it to his face.
@kungfupanda5363 right right, let the boy stay and not worry about how the girl feels about her enabled brat of a brother. His feelings matter over hers. Righty-o. Mom is TA, f the little girl’s feeings
@kungfupanda5363 the boy shouldn’t stay because like rSlash said: he shouldn’t be near his sister because he ruined her school life and caused her trauma and bullying because he thought it was “funny”. You want her to be subjected to live with the man who hurt her? You’re more illogical here. Don’t have children because you’d torment one because you don’t want the other to feel sad and neglected or whatever BS that spews between your ears
Story 1: NTA. This reminds me of my grandmother. Most old people get denchers at some point, but she got hers at 12 years old. She got into a really bad car accident while her father was intoxicated. If she hadn't been there, he would've died. She knew this before getting in the car with him, though I'm not sure if she knew she would sacrifice her teeth for his life. She was the kind of person who would've joked about it as she didn't care what other people thought. However, if my mom somehow denchers as a kid and someone told people she didn't want to know, I could just imagine the anger on my grandmother's face. She knew what it was like to deal with this stuff and I'd like to think that if she were alive today, she'd most definitely side with NTA.
Story 1, it is an extreme reaction, but the situation warranted it. The daughter is being cut off from everyone she cared about except for 2 family members and will likely have to change schools, so why shouldn't the sons punishment be suffering the same thing he put the daughter through? OP gets like, 1 out of 5 for raising her son like this, but this reaction makes sense. Also, I've been out of high school for a couple of years, and I think that physical bullying has subsided somewhat, but online and verbal bullying is possibly even higher than previous generations.
I would say that the ability to bully has grown. I know that there would have been all kinds of additional horribles done to me in a social media environ.
You can raise 2 people the exact same way and still get 2 very distinct people out the other side. How many families do you know that have a super successful child and another that’s a drug addict or alcoholic.
I wouldn't give a score to the parents here, not without much more information. It's entirely possible the kid is just a massive douchebag by nature.
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OMG the second case brough up some memories. I had a good friend in University that was openly gay, and on our final class day I just couldn't hold my curiosity and asked him, "hey C, so do you like pitching or catching?".... he answered "well depends on the size of the bat" and we both laughted our asses off. Now that I think so, maybe he wasn't laughing because it was funy for him but because it was too inapropiate and he didn't knew how to answer, I'll call him tomorrow and apologize.
As someone who was severely bullied in highschool and just got out of it. I can safely say it hasn’t gotten better
I can totally see OP’s POV in the first story! Separating them and getting the son away from the daughter after he caused that much pain. I can’t IMAGINE the amount of humiliation and hurt after going through something like that. My high school wasn’t bad when it comes to bullying, but I’m sure some areas can be!! Idk. Disowning *does* seem extreme, but I don’t know what else the parents were supposed to do..? I would not trust my son around my daughter anymore if he did something like that at 16!! 16?!?! 16 is beyond old enough to know that that behavior is completely disgusting and unacceptable.
100% agreed
Yep plus we should also consider the fact that Op’s son is safe and with family!!! This isn’t kicking him to the curb this is sending him to his grandparents for an undecided amount of time because he did something absolutely evil in order to hurt his sister and this is the consequence, it’s not as if Op if just dropping him off with some random people he knows these people and op knows he’s safe while still getting to distance him from his sister. Op really gets 0/5 asshole score
@@ilovewomen1892 I did want to mention that, but didn’t know how to phrase it and also my comment was getting really long, lol.
@@averylouise1024 Lmfao fair enough sorry that i piggybacked your comment a little bit 😭 Totally agree with you :)!
Story 1: The so called "friends" that turned on OPs daughter should be ashamed of themselves and I would whole-heartedly would explain to their own parents why their kids are cruel brats who deserve to be alone with no friends of their own. The son needs tough love and to really learn a lesson, knowing that he most probably will never be welcomed by his sister ever again, that sibling relationship will most likely never be rekindled and I wouldn't blame OP's daughter for never wanting anything to do with her brother again.
The son is lucky that his grandparents are letting him stay with them since that were disgusted with what he did to his sister.
OP and her husband: 0-5 AH
OP daughter: 0-5 AH
The daughter's so called "friends": 4 out 5 AH
OP's son: 5 out 5 AH
The other kids at school for mocking and teasing the daughter: 3 out 5 AH
I personally cannot stand bullies in general and that is what OP's son / the daughters "friends" & the other kids who joined in tormenting the daughter.
I totally agree with your scores.
I can't really give the son 5 Ahs because when I read the comments on the post it was revealed by Op accidentally that the son was pretty much neglected since he was about 8 or 9 when the infection started so I'm sure this was him lashing out at his sister because of the neglect. Basically a glass child situation.
@@sageart4771 he's old enough to drive, he's old enough to know you don't do this shit, and Ia it really "lashing out" when he took the time to think about it, wait for an opportunity, record the video in a specific way that makes it vesible, kept the video, waited until his little sister's friends came over and showed the video to them? This is very much planned and just plain cruel
@@sageart4771 That's no excuse to become a cruel and very bad person.
Many of us lived in a household with a golden child who could do no wrong and was apparently fantastic at everything, and many also had the added burden of having to survive extreme frequent yet random violence from the parent, and still don't have any hate or vindictiveness towards that person.
To be that hateful is effed up.
@@It-is-me...Melsie I get that. But many kids aren't that way. I grew up in a pretty rough household and many ppl think I came from an amazing family because of how I treat others and are alwsys shocked at the shitstorm that was my childhood. My siblings on the other hand are a different story. Not every kid is the same. Although I don't excuse his behaviour. I can somewhat empathize. Also I believe a relationship could be built back with the sister if OP and her husband were competent parents but that's way out of their ballpark.
As a senior in high school I will tell you right now rslash- bullying is NOT gone in fact I’d say it’s WORSE because of social media. What a crazy take from an old head that graduated high school years ago….
For the last story, I gotta say, OP is a better person than me. He at least waited for his brother to get back before kicking that chick out
Wait. So the mom or dad.. well op gets 5/5 when the son didn’t make a mistake and did that on purpose?
He gave OP 5/5 as if kicking him out wasn’t the best possible route. Every single other option had cons that far outweigh the pros.
For story 2 about the pool I think if Ava would have communicated that kids who are not potty trained are not allowed in the pool the mom could have brought some toys like balls, bubbles, water guns, etc and played with her kid in the big backyard.
I really don't understand how people are talking about this. Is it not common knowledge that human theses is toxic? Seems pretty straightforward to me. But apparently it's a little known secret. People. Keep comparing it to pee. For some reason. There's chemical specially designed to kill urine in a pool. Swim trunks, swim diapers, leak feces all the time. Chances are if you were going to a swim at a public pool and you get there and it's closed because some kid pooped in the pool. It was a baby that had a swim trunk on and it leaked poop. Poop is so toxic to a pool that you have to drain your entire pool. Which is crazy expensive. So no, you shouldn't take your child in their swim trunks if they are not potty trained into a a privately owned pool. Unless you're willing to pay for the cost if some of your child's poop falls out of the diaper. Or even if it's pool in its diaper when it's in that pool.
Why do they even label this behavior a prank? Whole family needs counseling.
Story 1: to answer your question R/, I highly doubt bullying has died down with the new generations. Like have you seen some of those prank channels on social media, they're just getting worse and more and more kids actually have a lot less respect for strangers. The truth is people are only sensitive when they want to be, but they'll still be as terrible and cruel as always.
As for the story, we could stay here and speculate about the family's dynamic all day but I'm not going to think about that for a second. I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and say a lot of these decisions are very anger base, it's hard to have time to think about the son's feelings when the daughter is in her own personal hell because of this "prank". I think having him out of the house for a while is good for the daughter, for now the only question worth asking is does son feel guilty for what he did. This was a cruel joke and it will not be forgotten, and probably won't ever be forgiven at least for that poor girl. But a step in the right direction would be if the brother actually feels very remorseful about what he did, if he tried to make excuses then I don't know. But if he's really sorry then it's a start.
Story 1: NTA for several reasons. 1st) She is looking out for the emotional wellbeing of her children. While send her son away to her parents, possibly forever, without contacting him is harsh it is the best she can do to prevent her, her husband and, her daughter from taking out their feelings of disgust, anger, and hatred out on him.
2nd) She sent her son to a place she knew he would be safe and cared for until, at least, she and her husband have emotionally calmed down and are able to have the very need tough conversations to begin healing their family.
3) Her Son caused irreparable damage to his Sister and needs to be separated from her because his very presence will just make his sister worse at the moment
All in all, she is doing the best she can in this horrible situation and does not deserve a 5/5 butthole score, right now she doesn’t have the emotional capacity to consider her son’s side and that just makes her human. It easy to judge looking in but when you are living it, it is impossible to think logically and fairly.
Nah, the parents and the kid deserve a harsh rating. The son will never learn by sending him away like that and now its just pawning him off on the grandparents. Its almost the easy way out.
@@michaelw1096 Bull. He is 16 and plenty old enough to understand his actions have consequences. He blew up his sisters life and knew it. What do you think he was expecting them to do with that information? Have a quick giggle? He SECRETLY RECORDED his sister's most private moment and made it public. If it had been anything else private would you hold the same opinion? Changing clothes? Therapy? Trust me its not easy for a parent to decide their child needs to leave the home unless the parent is a piece of shit. But the only piece of shit in this story is the son and the consequences of utterly shattering the trust of people you live with is THEY DON'T WANT TO LIVE WITH YOU ANYMORE! What is he going to learn by staying? That people will tolerate him after his worst behavior.
Story 1: There is nothing that can be done. Nothing to save this family really. They might be able to mend things in the future if the sister can recover her life. It would honestly be best for the family to move somewhere where they can start fresh and the sister can make new friends.
Is no one going to talk about how the text on-screen doesn't line up with the narration after the first story?
That's exactly what I was about to comment
Story 1, OP is absolutely NTA. OP never said she's definitely disowning him. She included that its too emotionally charged to make a final decision. In the moment, I can absolutely see wanting to keep the son away from them so nobody does anything drastic to each other. He did something unbelievably cruel that he _knew_ was the biggest insecurity of hers. I think distance from him until everything calms down is the best thing the family can do now. It's also not like she kicked him out onto the street either, he's staying with family a town away.
The OP told her parents she doesn't want him and that she's happy he's not gonna have family or friends anymore. That's disownment. She literally told her parents to keep him and that she doesn't want her son.
@@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf Look up 2.37 (right after that) "My parents are willing to keep him until he's 18, think we're too emotionally charged to be making this decision now." ... That sums up the situation... The parents are right now in the thick of things and unable to take a breather. When things calm down, people make more rational choices but for now a proper separation is a good way to show that actions have consequences.
Wanting too or not, what the Son pulled can push his sister into "unaliving" herself, so yea, the parents need to put all their focus on their daughter and can NOT have the person responsible for this around. The consequences can be very dire...
How fucking cruel can you be. You see your sister growing up with this insecurity that involves her going to therapy for 7 years. And you think its a joke to pull that, when he is already 16, going on 17... No, that is just cruel behavior of a psychopathy. People need to stop making excuses for the perpetrators. Its easy to tell what posters never experience bullying at school, now imagine bullying fired up to 1000 times as this is not normal bullying anymore, this is the type that kills people!
If the parents really did not care about their son, they where able to kick him to the street. No, they send him to his GPs home. But for now, he is out of the house while they deal with the mess.
It’s been a while since I’ve skipped one of rslash’s opinions, but tbh I couldn’t listen to him siding with the terrible son. It’s obvious that the son knew exactly what would happen and had been planning that for a while so to simply give him a stern talking to with no real consequences would’ve had no effect. He needed a very harsh reality check and op did everything right as a parent. If the son ever had to explain why he was sent away, no GOOD person would side with him. He’s absolutely terrible and deserves to be held accountable for his actions.
Same here..
He didn't side with the son, he very clearly stated that the son is extremely wrong but he also called out op for being a bad parent. It's called "everyone sucks here" for a reason, it's not taking sides but calling out everyone for their part in the problem.
Except he didn't side with the son either. He called them both assholes. He didn't even say the son shouldn't have been sent away temporarily. He said that a parent shouldn't go straight to disownment. And on that I agree with Rslash. Maybe I would've given the parent a lower butthole score but I would have still given him one. It's possible for both parties to be wrong.
@@kaylawoodbury2308 it is taking sides when the parents didn't raise the son like that. Some kids just happen to be assholes
@@GiordanDiodato well so they say we only have their word for it after all
Is anyone else's video messed up? Graduation text is going during the steak story... text was gone between his deleted commentary until now.
What that son did is inexcusable, he ruined her life.
He doesn't deserve a sibling.
I don’t agree with your assessment of the first story. Like seriously the daughter cannot be in the same place with the son like you just said. Yet you’re saying that her sending him away is too far. So should the daughter gets in the way because he did that to her?
Story 1 - the "prank" was insanely cruel and should have severe consequences, but I agree that disowning a child is not the way to handle it. In the short term, separation is fair and valid, but long term this whole family needs extensive counciling.
RSlash (Dabny) I respect that you listen to your viewers on cases. I'd love to see you do a specific video addressing your "bad takes", almost like your own personal update on videos. It's refreshing to see AITA stories and with updates, the OP realizes that they had a bad take and have an ability to address and change from their original intentions and thoughts.
At this point Dabney should take like, 1 month off without looking at r/AITA and just cover other, more light hearted subreddits
@@foxycrystal8961yeah I agree. Like 90% of his posts are AITA lol
Yeah my brother abused and bullied me growing up, my mother just ignored it, told me I was somehow “just as bad” for defending myself against violent attacks, mocked me for asking her to call an ambulance (from Scotland, we have NHS, it’s literally free) because if suffered concussions, and enabled his abuse. It’s just horrendous bullying and abuse, and in the end I went complete no-contact and haven’t spoken to either of my abusers in several years.
That’s what happens when a parent decides to favour one child and completely ignore the bullying and actively encourages it, they lose contact and get completely cut off. Folk know how much of a bully my brother is, he’s harassed so many of my female friends and his own female friends, he’s had to move several towns over because he groped several whilst threatening, harassing and bullying them if they ever spoke up. He hasn’t outgrown this bully boy attitude and he’s 30 now, he just doesn’t care and is completely selfish, self absorbed, a bully through and through, he thinks he’s untouchable because my mother refused to discipline him or hold him accountable.
And that’s what OP did, she held her son accountable and protected her daughter, sometimes you need to protect your kid from your other kids, it’s a hard decision but you gotta send the message “bullying is NOT okay” and he needs to learn harshly, otherwise he’ll legit end up like my brother, and nobody needs more dudes like that in the world!
Story 1 : NTA..thats not a prank that just a dude being a jerk to his own flipping sister... The dude needs to be taught actions have consequences.. no rslash no op didnt " throw her kid away" because that would be straight up throwing him out on the street in the cold the guy is paying for his cruelty and emotionally hurting his sister whos the real victim..5 out 5 for op come on rslash tell me your trolling here !!
Story 2 : NTA.. ava sounds like an absolute jerk.." i left the BBQ because we didnt feel welcome " because really you weren't welcome .. ava pretty much excluded op kid from the pool with the lamest excuse pretty much saying " i dont want your kid peeing in my pool" everyone literally everyone pees in the pool ..
Story 3 : " am i the a hole for exposing my emotionally abusive father and his wife and not letting them off the hook " NTA.. op "dad" is such a hypocritical bleephole..
Story 5 : NTA..Wooooooooow that was just a quick 1-2 combo of a response..brilliant.. so wait that guy wanted op to be that homophobe punchingbag??
Story 6 : NTA.. favoritism favoritism favoritism by op deadbeat "parents" .. " causing emotional distress to a pregnant woman " ..so wait just because shes pregnant it means she can say and do what she wants ?? .. if im op i would go LC with all 4 ..
No dude to teach, story is bogus.
@@giftheck??? Prove it..
@@giftheck you don’t sound smart
Homophobia isn’t real
@@Batman-lg2zjour not real...
Story 1: NTA, 16 is old enough to know if a prank is going to far. This kid straight up brutally murdered his younger sisters social life causing her to get bullied like crazy. Her self esteem plummeted. She likely will need so much therapy and to change to a new school. How are they suppose to keep him in the same house as her? Yes they are his parents but that doesn’t matter. The kids 16, that’s old enough to know better.
As someone who basically got bullied all the way through secondary school (what you would call middle + high school), it is genuinely the most painful thing I've ever experienced and it has permanently affected my confidence and self-esteem. It also doesn't help that I have autism as that affects my social skills further but I digress. Might I add that this was not a while ago, I just finished school only a couple weeks ago.
That’s the level of bullying the causes people to unalive themselves, OPs reaction is understandable and emotions are white hot at the moment.
Add in that she's already going to therapy, because the situation was bad and damaging before her brother did that...
I'd be concerned about her wanting to end her life if I was the parents
Changing school may not help either, thanks to the internet.
I work with kids who are bullied. It is unbelievably relentless and near impossible to get away anymore.
@@AdaireKricketsAgree with you there^^ i’m in school and i had to watch a girls social life get completely destroyed, some video of her got leaked and everyone passed it around to so many schools to the point everyone knew and i can imagine it happend the same in many other areas once something gets on the internet it’s impossible to escape and since that girl couldn’t move to any other school she ended up moving to a completely different town which was hours away bullying is absolutely horrible now :(
Last story: OP's brother should do that kid a favor and try to get custody. That type of crazy has nothing to do with hormones.
As somebody that enjoyed the tender care of my classmates for having the "wrong hair color and family name", i can not even imagine the level of bullying kids can inflict for having dentures at the age of 14! They pushed me several times to almost "unalive" myself, imagine the entire school finding a new "hobby" by going after OPs daughter all at the same time.
rSlash, the fact that you are a absolute coward and removed the 5/5 (on the parents) comment for the backlash is saying a lot.
Right now the parents their responsibility is to take care of their daughter and prevent her from potentially unaliving herself. You can not come with some excuse that "as a parent", .. you do not know what you will have done in the same situation. So no, 5/5 is something that goes for heinous people, not people trying to protect their daughter against the actions created by their son. The fact that you think you can speak from their perspective, while having on a very young daughter is saying a lot. You are not in the same position, you do not have 2 children, you are not in their position of having the bully of your daughter in the same house.
Their son just dealt the most biggest phycological hit on his sister, DELIBERATLY!!! He knew for 7 years she was in therapy for her insecurity, regarding her dentures. This was not a accident where the parents are exaggerating, this was planned to maximize the pain on his sister, by secret recording and showing to her friends. The so called "its just a prank" where people inflict phycological damage to others for their own amusement.
Also: the did **not** abandon their son. They did not kick him to the street. They did not beat the living shit out of him. He is send to the care of their grandparents, wow, what punishment that deserves a 5/5 score. They are dealing with the aftermath and are speaking from high emotions.
Ironically, i remember a story where the son started to steal for a ring, where the father needed to protect the daughter. Yet, the father did not get a 5/5 for protecting his daughter from the wrongdoings of the son despite both being their child. Sometimes as a parent you need to make choices who to prioritize because parents doing nothing, will only drive the victim into a even deeper hole.
For now things are heated and the parents need to deal with the aftermath. When heads cool, a solution can be found but the relationship between the brother and sister is destroyed. There is no coming back from this. The future will tell but the Son will need to step up himself to try and fix this mess. And from the post, there was nothing of this.
Agreed, he should have taken the entire video down. Not only did he completely massacre the video (nothing makes sense visually and audible) by removing that section, the fact that he continuously blames his bad takes on "having a soft spot for children because of "my daughter and amazing fatherly skills" is unacceptable. Its a tired excuse and I'd like to hear a real genuine apology.
This man gave op a score he usually saves for the worst of the worst when there is nothing they could have done better. I have disagreed with him in the past, but never to the extent of being disgusted like I am now.
exactly this. if i could like your comment twice, i would. it is INFURIATING that this is so divisive within this comment section. OP made the right call to send the son away, and anyone who thinks that that was "too much" should ask themselves why they don't think that way about how the son ruined his sister's life. this has likely given her trauma she'll be scarred by for the rest of her life--and that trumps whatever "underdeveloped teen brain doesn't understand consequences" excuses were being used. intentions don't matter when your actions are harmful, full stop. and, i'm shocked that a parent who actually did what her child needed in the moment despite their high emotional states would earn the same score as child abusers and murderers. like was said, this video should just be taken down, and should also be community-tab-followup-video apology worthy. that take was so cold, it would be boiling at the bottom of the ocean. absolutely vile.
@@ihategmailpasswords There are people with empathy and can place themselves into the shoes of the victim. And then ... well. There are a lot of people in the world that are bullies because they simply have no empathy or make excuses for their children all the time. Topics like this bring out the true nature of people.
You can love your children, but when one fucked up badly, that does not mean you do not love your child when their actions face consequences. Its the people who go "its just a child" are the reason why we have so many bullies and people who go worse (theft, murder)... It annoys me seeing somebody murder and is cought dead to rights. And their parents or mother/father is in the court to "support" them.
From the looks of it, this feels like its not the first incident with their son. The whole "away from his friends" that OP used, felt too much of a line that indicated something more.
And yes, parents sometimes send their children away for their own good. Children who are with the wrong crowd... I hope there is a update because this story feels like there is deeper water behind the son his actions.
@@benjiro8793 I remember one story where he gave the bride a butthole score for posting pictures of her wedding when a child died there and the dead childs parents saw the post but why is that her fault? Also he gave a butthole score to someone who yelled at a family event at their abusive husband cause he was commenting about her body and embarrassing her and she just snapped
It's a reddit video, chill
Rslash you have a HORRIBLE TAKE on story one. 5/5 seriously?? The mother HAS TO PROTECT THE DAUGHTER. The son traumatized her. She will now have LIFE LONG issues because of him. He HAD TO GO. And maybe giving her 1/5 but how the f*ck could you EVER think that being disgusted by psychotic traumatizing behavior and protecting the victim is worthy of 5/5?! Wtf
@desperateneedofscotch Uhm lol what. In what way is that? She was literally in therapy... DEALING W HER ISSUES. They were protecting her from future harm and from the trauma of having to interact on a daily basis with someone who caused her harm. Are you sexist or something? Any normal sane person would not say something so outlandish and something that doesn't even make sense/isn't even backed up by the facts that we have. So I'm guessing you might be sexist and just automatically blame women or girls and then come up with weird logic to justify your obvious contempt of them? I really can't think of any other reason you would hate on her by listing a problem that was never mentioned nor implied by the facts we have...
Last story: Being pregnant isn’t an excuse to act crazy and destructive. I wouldn’t let her back or pay anything for them until reimbursed for the meal she destroyed. A sincere apology will also be needed. Since it won’t happen, OP is scott-free regarding babysitting and picking up brothers gf from Gymboree
Apparently the gf thinks that just cause she’s pregnant she can get away with anything and everything
@@bibigamer502and so does OP's family it seems
@@bibigamer502and everyone is letting her hold onto this belief. OP is only one of many rude awakenings
@@lorilancaster5917 hopefully op cuts contact with them
Middle-school teacher here. Bullying has gotten worse, at least in MS. Cell phone access and social media has made bullying much worse.
Story 1: Does the brother deserve to be completely disowned? I don't know, maybe that's a bit extreme. Does he deserve an EXTREMELY harsh punishment for something that he's more than old enough to know was utterly cruel? YES!
Story 1: The son did one of the worst things ever. Straight up brought up something that would get her life absolutely ruined by bullying. Something is definitely going wrong here.
Should the son be incredibly punished for that stunt? Yes! Disowned? Maybe not, probably more like "I'm taking this for a while" or something like that?
I agree, idk how he could atone for his actions but to just abandon him? That’s not going to “fix” him it’s going to make him worse and he’s going to get angry and internalize that
OP just taking away his phone, x-box, whatever would be too light of a punishment for making the daughter just have more trauma
Generally 16 year olds are dumbasses. IIRC the human brain isnt fully developed until around 25. I dont support the idea of using the same punishment for kids and teenagers as for adults. Also, ive seen rslash cover revenge stories, where the actual damage ends up being far worse than the instigator could ever have imagined.
That could easily have been a thing here, dumbass 16 year old MIGHT have thought it was just a prank, because hes a dumbass 16 year old. The story doesnt list his reaction to the outcome, unless im missing something.
Could easily be a hanlons razor situation.
...not that i think the sister ever wants to see him ever again, and she absolutely has the right to that, though.
Dafney have you heard of what’s going on with TIKTOK and the cruel things teenagers are getting up to that make look like a saint
Going to stay with grandparents is not being disowned and I don't know why people think it is... To actually be disowned is to refuse to acknowledge or maintain any connection with them which is NOT what is going on here! They sent him away sure but at NO point did they say they refuse to even talk to their son. Them sending him away to start over with a new school, and no friends parallels what HE did to his sister perfectly but it still feels like he is getting off easy since he gets the luxury of nobody at his new school knowing what a POS he is to his sister... She is the one who really needs the fresh start now but he gets it because they need him to not cause anymore trauma to his sister the REAL victim here. They have to deal with their son eventually but doing what is best for everyone in this moment is all they can do till everything settles down again. Your take in thinking they "disowned" him is as bad a R/slashes today!
Story one: in my opinion, which isn’t law by the way, I would’ve let the daughter stay with the grandparents instead of the son. This is so she could get a clean slate and away from the toxicity her school and former friends have become. The son however gets round the clock therapy, no contact with friends, and lose all phone internet and social media privileges. That or send him to a boarding school.
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I do agree with you, but that may come across as further punishment in the daughter's mind
Sending the daughter away would isolate her from her parents and would feel like a punishment, unless she wanted that which I doubt.
@@amberhasanaccount but she may want to get away from those who are tormenting her? We don’t know what she would want in this situation because the option wasn’t provided. There really isn’t a perfect solution to this situation unless OP gets a time machine, goes to the time in question son tries to record sister, and scold the dickens out of him before he has the opportunity to commit his act
I listen to the podcast version. I came here to share that neither me or my wife or apparently my in-laws knew how a swim diaper worked before our first vacation with my son. We had the genius idea of putting him in a swim diaper for the first leg of our 2-day, 16-hour drive. Cause they're just made to hold EXTRA water right? He was really good for the ride so we didn't notice that his outfit was absolutely soaked in piss until we got the the hotel we were staying at that night. I guess it was for the best overall, he stayed dry and comfortable for the whole drive. Just had to give him and his car seat a bath that night.
They should have gotten a kiddie pool or play sprinkler for the toddler so that he could still have fun in the water and not be completely left out at a pool party.
Excluding a toddler is just mean
That is what I was thinking. Why not a kiddie pool that is safe and doesn't have a lot of water in it.
Or better yet, why doesn't the mother bring something for her toddler to plan. Why you have to explain to grown adults that there is a difference between urine and feces. There is special chemicals designed to deal with urine in a pool. In fact, if you go to a pool and you smell urine, that could be one of the reasons you're smelling the chlorine because someone peed in the pool. There is no chemicals that are able to deal with feces at least chemicals that are available to pool owners. In fact, if somebody poops in your pool, you have to drain your pool. Clean your pool. Refill it back up recalibrate the water at great expense. As someone who has an ego pool. I am extremely protective of who goes in that pool and who doesn't. No absolutely no un potty trained children get in that pool. My pool is kept clean by plants and very naturally based cleaners. And having to drain the pool or putting a great big toxic turd in the pool could kill my plants and take me weeks of recalibrating and monitoring my pool to get it back on task. The fact that an adult doesn't know swim diapers leak is just read the back of the package of the swim diapers. It's not everybody's job to tell you everything. That should just be basic knowledge.
I just like to add that when I was in high school I was a lifeguard and I cannot tell you how many times the pool had to be closed because somebody brought their unpotty trained child into the public pool with swim trunks on and the child pooped in the pool.
Bullying has 100% not changed.. I dealt with it growing up in the early 00s and my little sister in school now is going though very similar experiences.. it sucks to see it.
5:50 bullying has definitely not died down, it’s just done now in different forms, and it’ll probably stay that way for quite some time
Rude girl: *asks an inappropriate question to OP*
OP: *asks an inappropriate question back*
Rude girl: 👁👄👁
11:00 bear in mind that the one that started throwing away the steak was given an ultimatum for what she wanted before, and she wanted no one to have any of it..