Cops Arrest Attorney Over Harmless Prank
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Cops breaking the law don't deserve anything better than F breaking the law is breaking the law cops are expected to follow law for reason
A toy knife can be a lethal weapon not for someone else but him. If some trigger happy idiot was around with a gun and thought it was real he could be shot or killed. It has happened with a toy gun more than once even though the kid wasn't even acting like he was going to shoot anyone with it still was killed by a trigger happy idiot. So some things people need to use common sense when holding a weapon or something that other people would see as a weapon
I live in Texas and you must be behind on the laws. In Texas we can carry brass knuckles, switch blades, we can even carry a sword if one wanted to. We also have constitutional carry where we can carry in the open in a holster or concealed.
I think legally your break down is probably correct but the lawyer is an idiot. He shouldn't get an A, he should get a Darwin award.
They love to escalate. What a a shame !
So citizens can't be exonerated due to "mistake of law' and yet police are exonerated constantly for not knowing the law due to qualified immunity. Seems to me that if anyone should be responsible for knowing the laws, it should be the people responsible for enforcing the laws.
amennnnnnnnn
Well said. Thank you.
Yup and it's called corruption, the people have grown cowardly and will not challange such corruption.
I don't necessarily agree with people not being able to rely on government statements, but there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about qualified immunity.
Qualified immunity doesn't apply to the police "not knowing" the law, it applies to situations where the case law isn't settled, qualified immunity provides no protection for an officer who is simply unaware of the jurisprudence.
Additionally, qualified immunity has nothing to do with officers violating criminal law, it protects only from civil lawsuits.
You are confusing criminal law with civil law. QI is for lawsuits, you know for money. Cops are not immune from criminal law because they do not know. They can be charged like anyone else.
If citizens are expected to know the laws they must follow, then why don't police have an Obligation to know the laws they are enforcing.
Even as a BLM insurrectionist, you are correct in this comment. I agree with you.
@@j0hnnykn0xv1lle why be condescending? that first part of your sentence only divides us. Your perception of what you think BLM(movement not the organization) means/stands for is what divides us.
@@1337_bean If we're talking about "dividing us" look no further than BLM.
@@1337_bean you think he wants be to united with you? you clearly don't know how a WS thinks.
@@CU-Later so basically one "race" lives don't matter, correct. you kind of making their point.
"All persons are presumed to know and understand the law" - Why do we then need lawyers? Also, why doesn't this apply to police?
Even lawyers before trials have to study the law and relevant trail verdicts. NOBODY knows all the laws.
@@user-qm9ub6vz5e you might want tell the courts and cops. Considering its unfair to let the cops off the hook on the laws but not the rest of us.
Cops can be high school dropouts with GED’s. That’s all u need to know.
Does that mean cops aren't people?
@@theresahall5141 That what the 14th Amendment is for; to protect from an unequal application of the law. QI needs to be challenged on the basis of the 14th Amendment.
If they think one person walking around in a creepy costume is "alarming the general public" then they're in for a rude awakening on Halloween.
Go check out skid row ...
@@bleezy8480 pretty cool band but they old bro we already know about em
The costume is not the issue here. The fact people thought it was a real knife and the whole set up means situations like that will arise.
@@obeseperson exactly
@@bighands69 the costume nor the people that call it in are the issue.. its the cops that are the issue.. soon as they seen that it was a fake ass plastic childs toy knife they should have let him go.. cops are the problem 99% of the time and no one else..
“Disorderly conduct” has to be one of the most abused, catch-all charges used by cops.
Right up there with "Obstruction" and "Resisting arrest".
It's definitely on the "all star" team right next to resisting and failure to show I.D.
And disobeying...such BS
Also "suspicious person". (is that a felony or a misdemeanor?)
@@peterb2272 Resisting arrest is one thing but resisting w/o violence? That’s just crazy to me.
It’s hilarious how we are “expected to know the law” when it comes to breaking it, yet you’re met with “so where did you go to law school” when you know the law to protect your own rights 🧐
Just reply with "where did you go to law school officer?" or "just say, I can read, that's how I know"
Ignorantia legis non excusat.
Because logically speaking, you could never prove a negative, that you don't know the law. Every person charged would just say they didn't know, and then no laws would be enforceable. It's not a difficult concept.
The concept is easy to understand. The cops reacting with a "so where did you go to law school" is also not hard to understand, yet it is a stupid thing to say xD
Had a cop ask me that once. I said "northwestern".its not a law school and im not an attorney, but it did change his attitude
I love how the people are required to know the law, but according to the supreme court, the police are not. Makes me wonder.
cuz the law is written to protect cops not people
Except in a few cases ,in most cases judges side with cops because they are part of the same
"Government team" ganging up on citizens in order to control and punish them.
Qualified immunity needs to go!
I can't even ride a NYC subway without being harassed and not once has a cop ever helped me out.
And if you help yourself or someone else and the offender is a different race then your own your probably getting life.
Cop: “Why is there blood on the knife.”
Citizen: “It’s rubber. It’s a toy a prop.”
Cop: “I know.” 😂 if you know it’s fake why are you asking why there’s blood on it?
As soon as they discovered the knife was rubber they should have removed the cuffs.
It was later tested for fake DNA.
It seems like a silly question. I mean, the cop already knowing the answer. But there is a method here. It's to keep you talking, answering questions. If the guy said something that could possibly be interpreted as untoward or nefarious intent to any degree, such as, "I did it to scare people for Halloween." Well, guess how that cop is going to interpret your intent in his report?
Never talk to the cops. Cite your 5th and stick to it.
Lmao and this is fvckin texas where we open carry rifles and as long as you got the right attire people wont bat an eye as you go about your day with a damn 50AE Bewolf AR 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 BUT A RUBBER KNIFE? Noooooo you are a fvckin menace my guy hells wrong with you scaring our 80% gun owner state community 😂😂😂😂😂 lets say the knife was real Lmaooooo wtf I been waiting ages to use my new 1911 45 😭😂😂😂 I dont think ive ever seen a knife used in open public attacks in decades 😂
@@nowhereman1670 bingo!
"All persons are presumed to know and understand the law".. Yet when you bring the law up the police always respond with "are you a lawyer?"
They didn't ask this guy if he was a lawyer.
@@cobracommander9138 No shit Sherlock
They always say "where'd you get your law degree?" Or "where'd you go to law school?" Like it's wrong to know your rights? Or you are only supposed to know or understand the law if your a lawyer? Everytime a cop says this they should be under investigation.
@@r000tbeer that was unnecessary.
That's why I always ask cops when they make a statement, "is that your legal opinion? Or "is that your legal conclusion?"
Soooo - ANYONE at ANY TIME can say “they’re scared” and that constitutes a disorderly conduct arrest? Since when do our rights stop at the feelings of others?
Most Police Departments enforce feelings. Feelings are much easier to enforce than to expect a police officer to actually know the law. Besides ignorance of the law is no excuse, except if you are a police officer, then you can not be expected to know all the laws.
don't let every karen know false calls will increase 10 fold
I'm guessing the call included "I'm scared because there's a masked man with,a knife" which is completely reasonable for police to respond to?
@@ChezzyKnytt yea but when its a michael myers mask on halloween one would think it's just a guy in a costume considering how no one else is on the beach
@@Sassafrass95 Seen at a distance on a foggy day, I doubt a bystander is going to want to get closer to see what it is. Plus, it's not like it being a Michael Myers mask means it's not a threat. I would also assume no one is on the beach because of, you know, the guy with the knife.
I met this guy this spring. Great dude! He does a lot of charity work for a group called Irreverant Warriors that focuses on issues of preventing veteran suicide through humor and camaraderie. He was the event organizer at the event I attended in Galveston. He was dressed as the Ultimate Warrior from old school WWE/WWF. He stopped and engaged with kids and people walking the streets. I think this guy is fantastic! Quite a character!
"ALL Citizens are presumed to know and understand the law."*
*Except for cops, police or other law enforcement officers.
But when the law becomes so complicated that the common man cannot understand or comprehend it it is no longer the law and does not have to be obeyed
The Federalist Papers
The reason this hypocrisy is allowed is because you allow it. You allow the government to extort you, then use those funds to further harass you into following laws they make yet don't understand.
@@Damitsall WTF are you saying? You're a clown...
@@Damitsall oh. I see, you're not in our country.... LMFAO
Isn't it weird how the average, untrained citizen is expected to know MORE about the law than the (supposedly) trained professionals?
If someone claiming to be alarmed is enough to charge someone with something, I find it very alarming that cops don't understand the laws they are charged with enforcing. Lock em up.
I find cops very alarming, pretty much all the time. Doubt I'd ever be able to charge them with something though 🤔
Also, these kinds of laws are made to be able to charge (and harass through the legal system) those who the cops don't like (mostly left-adjacent protestors, people of color, the poor, the non-boot-licking kind, etc.).
I find it alarming that some cops will beat up black people for no good reason. I find it alarming that other cops will protect those cops after doing such a thing. I find it alarming that judges will conspire to find any excuse to let them keep their jobs. Lock them all up.
Anyone could be causing alarm just by carrying a baguette from a bakery.
Because a lot of law enforcement personnel act under the assumption that you are guilty until you can prove yourself innocent.
@@timinwsac Guilty until proven guilty
"All citizens are presumed to know and understand the law." Yup, we all totally do. That's why we need to hire lawyers, because we all know and understand the law.
I hate government logic. _They_ don't even know or understand the laws, and they're the ones who make them.
This happened in my home town. Mr Metzger is a highly reputable attorney and is loved by the local community. As the video states, he is constantly spreading messages of positivity and brings a smile to many people's faces. Being the good guy that he is, he didn't take this as much of an offense and from my knowledge he still continues to support local law enforcement. He is known as the "gentle giant" around here and I don't believe this really did anything to affect his reputation. He seems to be doing well and continues to do what he does best by being a hell of good attorney and is still spreading his message to be a good person. May not be much of an educational comment, but I just wanted to mention that he's doing just fine despite this minor incident.
Really solid considering a lawyer is typically not looked at as kindly.
Incidente menor....?????
Still not smart of him to do what he did
Of course he's a giant, just like every other high ranking official. People in positions of power are tall.
@@stephenfan211 Some of the richest men aren’t tall but yea it’s true being tall does help but doesn’t guarantee it, you can be tall and suck at leadership
As a Texan, I am ashamed of some of our LEOs. It's like they can't even think reasonably. "Let's find something to charge him with". Bad optics
Yes, me too
Some?.... SOME?!!?
@@canucanoe2861 for every bad cop there are several good cops
@@squid0013 bullshit
They basically said, "i think this is disorderly" then they all went "Yea that's it, let's do that".
Like, if there's an actual crime, figure out that it's correct, and have the officer book him for that. The rest of the cops just jumped on the bandwagon, and they all ended up being wrong because they're too stupid to do their jobs correctly.
Why not find a reason to let someone go rather than always trying to find a reason to arrest someone. If they are not a real criminal you don't need to ruin people's lives and find reasons to try and make them criminals... Lets stick to protecting and serving please!
That would be far too easy, and wouldn’t help them fill their quotas.
But this attorney did get protected and served.... :P
Typical thug behavior! That’s why.
Exactly. “Oh it’s a plastic knife. OK. Well don’t do this again. OK. Bye now.’
@@KealanRobert 💯💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯
“All citizens are expected to know the law” but then when somebody flexes their rights and mentions the law they say “where did you go to law school” or “oh I didn’t know you were a lawyer.”
"We got a call"
Fantastic police work officer.
We got a call, therefore the US CONSTITUTION is null and void.
“All citizen are required to know the law.”
Yet school doesn’t teach you, so who the fuck does? And cops are taught the law and still get a slap on the wrist for ruining someone’s life by “accident.”
In most police academies, police trainees spend more time on learning how to shoot guns and do high risk police raids than learning the laws they will enforce.
Learning the law is more of like oh yea and this too that they throw in on the last slide
Not even lawyers know all the laws. When they get ready for a case they have to study the laws and read relevant trials that change the law. Before a company make a decision they have to contact their lawyers and those lawyers have to look up and read the laws and relevant law suits and trials. NOBODY KNOWS ALL THE LAWS. This also changes state by state.
And killing someone as well
@@user-qm9ub6vz5e You conflate two things here.
The expression or legal maxim is "ignorance of the law is not an excuse". (It can be an excuse, but generally not.) I watched a video a couple of days ago where a West Virginia Judge was caught with expired plates and his license was also expired. It was the Judge's responsibility to know when his plates and driver's license expired.
If courts were to allow ignorance of the law be used as a defense, then no one would be held accountable.
When lawyers bone up on the law before a case, they are reading legal precedents. While the statute law may say something, it is how courts interpret the statute that matters. Lawyers look at the prior cases looking for something to bolster their case.
All citizens are presumed to know the law? What a load of horse manure. Tell a cop about your rights and he'll ask you where you got your law degree. The system is full of it.
And if all laws were so clear, why the need for lawyers to argue over it?
@@SMac86 I think the existence of lawyers, and judges, goes to the reality that human behavior comes in infinite forms, and how exactly each form, each human activity is covered by the law is an impossible task. Even this very channel has the luxury of citing law books for legal precedence before grading.
Exactly. If all of us are assumed to know the law, why can't we be our own judge, jury, and executioner?
"Ignorance of the law is no excuse" is a legal principle that has existed since at least the Roman times and exists in every legal system. It is simply necessary because otherwise people could always claim ignorance as defense for anything. It simply means that people are convicted irrespective of whether they knew what they did was illegal. It does not mean people have some sort of active duty to know every law.
Love how cops aren't expected to know the law but every single citizen is required to and even if a cop ficking says something you're still going to get in trouble for it this country is a joke truly
I was riding in a car recently with two of my friends, a brother and sister whose father is the leading defense attorney in our small town and has had multiple run-ins with the cops and DA's over the years, when we were pulled over by the local pd. Turned into a 2hr long ordeal where we handcuffed and made to kneel on the side of a very public road during rush hour surrounded by 6 cops, 1 K9 unit, and 2 sheriffs deputies while they searched the car for drugs they knew weren't there. Laughing amonst themselves the whole time and telling us what they planned to "discover" during their "search". They eventually released us with "apologies" for their "understandable mistake".
It’s hilarious how “all persons are presumed to know and understand the law” and yet law enforcement officers are rarely held accountable for making false arrests, assault, battery or writing false tickets based on their misunderstanding of the law.
There are the maxims of law that say people can't be presumed to know the law and almost all U.S. case law before the 1960s
The only problem with fighting The charges is it cost so damn much to get a lawyer to fight with. Most people would be better off paying $250 fine and go on about their business. What’s wrong with the court system is like so dang expensive to do anything like fighting charges against you.
Exactly. The court system is a business just like any other. They know it’ll be expensive for you and that you’ll simply pay the fines 🤦♂️
Its not about the money, its about it being on your record. The more stuff you get on your record the harder it becomes to fight if something serious happens and your wrongfully accused, it makes it easier for them to over look your case and sentence you for it with little effort into looking into it as you are now a "repeat offender" or a "trouble making that has been a nuisance"
Public defenders are free, and do an amazing job most the time. One saved me from prison on bogus charges.
Even without a lawyer, it can be expensive just to show up for a day in court which causes a person to miss a day of work.
@@ThePersonToBlame public defenders are only free if you have no income, and rarely, so rarely, do they ever provide adequate defense (and never do they provide the level of a defense a paid attorney would), most public pretenders are trying to get into the DAs office, and their job is MAINLY to get their clients to take plea deals, rarely, if ever, will they advocate for you to go to trial and they certainly won't have the ability to defend you properly considering their average case load. Please don't tell people to take a public defender. You may have had a good experience but, and trust me here, there are a lot of people who's lives have been ruined because they had to take a public loser lawyer.
The problem is with police is there's no reprimand anymore. When they've come to a scene and established that there was no dangerous situation they have a choice to arrest the guy for some fake charge OR just tell him to leave because he's alarming the residents. They always chose the first option then wonder why they get no respect.
Excuse me? “Any more”? They’re reprimanded more today than ever before and that’s a sad thought. Before legally required body cameras and dash cams they literally just lied about everything brazenly. Beating, false arrest, planting evidence, all of that crap was extremely common. Anytime you watch these body or dash cam vids of older cops, getting arrested they always say the same thing
“It’s not like the old days, you know I can’t let you go.”
I hate the existence of offenses like "disorderly conduct." It's just a vague, blanket offense that cops can interpret in basically any way they want to in order to make an arrest. Even if it's later held unlawful, it promotes an extremely broad definition of what constitutes a crime.
When they realize it's a prop, the police immediately claim his actions are disorderly to cover for their treatment of him
They just dig in further instead of be relieved and accept they my have overreacted
That’s who they are.
@@WaffleStomper69 Up to that point they hadn't overreacted. They had calls about a man with a knife. They came up on a dude with a knife. So they had their guns drawn. It's impossible to tell the knife is fake initially. Everything after the seen the knife was fake and heard is his reasoning is overreaction however.
@@TLM-Nathan(Reguardless) the idiot was staggering around on the beach ⛱ (DURING A STORM) with a BLOODY KNIFE (prop).
If he wasn't trying to frighten people, then,...WTF was he trying to do ?
@@gregkasza1925 Cops shouldn't have "cuffed him".. Instead, they should have just stuck that foolish Attorney's rubber toy, deep into his "rear pocket", and let him walk away with it !
"all citizens are expected to know the law" except if you're a police officer, in which case qualified immunity will get you off the hook 🙄
funny but also sad
„All people are expected to know and understand the law.“
This just made me laugh, given how often it seems that we do NOT put these expectations onto the cops…
10:13 This is where the defendant says too much. He agrees that the police should draw their weapons thereby recognising that he was viewed as a threat. Always maintain your silence!
I think he knows that, but he is just a friendly person and tries to be nice to the police
any reasonable person would agree though, denying the obvious doesn't actually help your case.
If he were a POC he would've gotten way worse treatment.
@@jenniferlonnes7420 cops treat everyone like shit
@@bjfire01 You think it is justifiably to point a gun at someone far away that is doing nothing but holding a knife and wearing a mask?
Silly citizen. Only cops are allowed to not understand the law.
So you think all cops should have to go to college for years and get a JD to be a cop?
Good luck with that.
@@robertthomas5906 No wise one.
They have lots of training that they often choose to ignore because there are no repercussions to them screwing up. We can start by getting rid of qualified immunity.
@@simguns8388 they also have a computer built into their vehicles that ya know HAS THE LAWS IN IT
@@robertthomas5906 Straw man much?
@@frocat5163 You don't know what a straw man is or what it's used for. I asked him a question. I didn't attack him or make up another argument and then attack that.
This lawyer is a cops lover, cooperated, and complied 100%…. Even praising the cops…. and they still arrested him and cited him
So there goes that argument of “just comply and they’ll understand”
They did not have the IQ levels for that to work.
This is the type of lawyer who would advise you to take a plea deal knowing that you’re completely innocent ..he most likely hangs out with the prosecutor & judge playing golf. I would never retain an attorney from my city or state
The lawyer demonstrated he doesn't believe that remaining silent when detained is important - not knowing the specifics of the law, he made a lot of statements that could be used against him.
ohhh thank you sir for only pointing your gun at me a little.. oh your so kind to only kidnap me for a short period, and the money youve tried to take from me was so miniscule its not even a problem.. and hey i know you wanted me to be locked in a cage for a long time but i mean youre still a good guy using reason and common sense!
He pretends to represent clients and then instructs them to accept the standard "deal"'.
One thing I hate is how they keep people in cuffs. Once you know the knife is a rubber toy prop, take off cuffs and leave. It's some weirdo around October.
Why is the average citizen expected to know MORE about the law than the average cop?
I thought "ignorance of the law IS NOT AN EXCUSE"???
"Citizens cannot rely on mistake of law"....and yet qualified immunity exists.
I wonder what the legality of a sheriff deputizing his entire jurisdiction would be.
I'd love to see one do so as a stunt to bring more attention to QI.
@@fs127 I love it.
Officers seem to never ask themselves...was this person's behavior breaking the law? if the answer is no, then it shouldn't matter that other people were concerned or alarmed. He's not breaking the law BECAUSE others are alarmed. The guy is NOT breaking any laws, period. It's just more of the feelings police.
I know a woman who has a fear of dwarfs. Due to her fear of little people, she can have one that she encounters detained?
It's more that the cops want to prove that they are in control of everything. Regardless of the ramifications or the damage it inflicts. We are here to justify their existence at all cost.
All of this "Texas Law" seems to be somewhat out of line with the US Constitution's limitations on the People's Freedom of Speech, where no person has the right to cause alarm to the public.
Staggering around with a bloody knife, during a storm ? ? ?
(REAL knife or NOT).....
OBVIOUSLY!!! this caused serious alarm to the public, that day.
Immature, Childish, Inconsiderate, Lawyer !
(Such behavior is only acceptable on October, 31st)
Yes I’m bringing up race on this. There’s also racist people who upon seeing someone of a “insert any ethnic background etc” could say he//she made me feel alarmed arrest them!
Police: Okay! We are arresting you because you alarmed that man.
Instead they are just trained by IDF and killology that every citizen is a enemy of the state and threat to them
I’m not mad the cops responded to the call I’m mad at how they handled the entire situation.
Me too
Police got a call , so in their minds im not driving out there without charging or arresting someone .
Cops “All citizens are assumed to know and understand the law” also cops “What are you a lawyer”
This guy: yes I Am a Lawyer and I know the judge and Da.
No one should be required to know at any given moment every law and how it applies to the infinite number of situations the human species is capable of creating. There is a reason why this channel, and lawyers around the world, consult law libraries. It is also why judges often have to make final decisions concerning legal matters. Unfortunately, there is a lot of gray area.
@@threeofive9401 I agree
100% the ONLY reason this Halloween prankster was released with a mere citation versus arrested and booked was the cops knew he was “a prominent local attorney, who had asked Smith (their LT) about wearing a costume”. Any one of us pesky citizens lacking in such connections would have been treated to a complete booking process, publicity humiliating mugshot, and permanent arrest record! And likely had to face a prosecution rather than dismissal. Keep that in mind when you watch 1A/2A ‘auditors’ and {cop watchers’ get arrested for lawful activities!!!
Until this case, anyway. Now this specific case can be cited if it happens again.
@@Kibaoftheleaves good luck for anyone who tries to explain that to their arresting officer. Probably get a good belly laugh during booking.
$250 in fines but thousands in revenue from the video on his YT channel. Yeah he definitely was looking to set a precedent here. Not a bad idea, better him because the fact he can ROR for this incident. Not liking the idea the lawyer gets preferential treatment but if he's hopefully helping the regular guy then nice. I'll assume without looking at his own channel or the topic he was trying to do a solid thing for everyone
@@nomore-constipation I think you give the lawyer way too much credit! He admitted he does an annual costume photo shoot, and is surprised he’s being detained. If he’s now claiming it was all about civil rights and police behavior…that seems disingenuous to me. Thanks.
Not 99.7%?
On one hand, I get why people would be freaked out cause the fake knife looked real AND had fake blood on it. I get why they stopped him to talk to him, but after talking to him and seeing the knife was fake - I would have told him to stop lol and went about my day.
And choose not so realistic weapons in the future.
Lol Code Blue Cam lead me here now it’s sending me back. Make up your mind y’all 😂
Wow. Not a single one of these cops have ever seen a Halloween movie…? They really had no clue what this guy was doing…..?
Officers have to deal with "suspicious happenings" during the lead up to Halloween every year.
Murders, Stalkings, R*pes, ect. All under the guise of "It was just a prank bro" or using Halloween as a cover.
People walking around with a bloody knife during Halloween? Few people would think twice about it, unless they got close enough to see that the blood looks just a little too real.
Remember that people want to hold officers responsible for what they "did" if they stop someone, and what they "Let happen" if they didn't stop them and it was a real threat.
That’s what happens when you have a 2nd grade education like they do
Years ago it was the evil clown costumes that people were freaking out over
Did you watch the video? They knew who he was dressed as, it's the people who called who might've been scared shitless of a masked maniac with a bloody knife.
@@Abedeuss
Those people are stupid.
"citizens are assumed to know and understand the law", yet when people out there tell police officers and other government workers about laws that police or those government workers aren't getting right in the moment, those citizens are asked "oh really? Where'd you get your law degree?", In a sarcastic and demeaning tone.
And why is there an expectation for citizens to know and understand the law, but when those citizens are police officers, there's no similar expectation?
Does anyone else ever get an overwhelming feeling of "literally everything is dumb"? Cuz ironies like these really put me there sometimes.
Vanessa the movie idiocracy is coming true before our very eyes.
Because logically speaking, you could never prove a negative, that you don't know the law. Every person charged would just say they didn't know, and then no laws would be enforceable. It's not a difficult concept.
@@jameslastrapes112 The only thing it got wrong was the timeline.
And to OP, yes everything is dumb and we're doomed.
@@Tijuanabill ignorance of the law is no excuse and can't be used as a defense. lol
@@jameslastrapes112 Did you mean to comment to me? What you said has nothing to do with what I said, even a little bit.
Okay I'm only 3 minutes into the video but the way the cop took off his mask like he was trying to figure out who the villain was like in a Scooby Doo case 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was thinking the same thing, "How are citizens expected to know the law when cops don't." Aside from that, it's common to see judges looking into law books to see what the law on something is, they don't know EVERYTHING. That expectation of citizens should be stricken from any law book.
Disorderly Conduct, the charge which means cops can do whatever they feckin like
Misunderstanding the law?
This is good news, as any cop that says, “are you a lawyer” can have this tossed into his face.
In this case, the citizen could honestly answer that he is a lawyer.
How difficult is it to just say to the man that he can't do this, take his toy knife and call it a day?
This guy is my hero. I remember when this happened. I thought it was hilarious and ridiculous that he was arrested.
I am amazed that someone not breaking the law was arrested for disorderly conduct on an empty beach and no complaints that he was being disorderly or in breech of the public peace. The police officers here threatened a man's life by drawing their firearms, they kidnapped him, entered his name into the system so he will forever be a suspect, they wanted to put him in a cage against his will and tied up his time in the judicial system when He DID NOT BREAK THE LAW! To give these officers anything less than an F rating is giving police everywhere the idea that this kind of conduct is acceptable.
It's woo
They just want to make arrests. They _hate_ going away without a prisoner. It gives them a thrill. They aren't normal people.
Soooo…. We, pesky citizens, have to know every law on the books and can be thrown in a cage for a long period time if we break a law but the people We hire to enforce these laws can be total ignorant of the law…
Got it…
'Merica
Within 5 seconds of contact he says "seems like disorderly to me." Immediately looking for something to arrest him on. What a station.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
I wouldn’t even call this a prank. It’s more like performance art.
I love how you point out "ALL CITIZENS ARE PRESUMED TO KNOW EVERY LAW ON THE BOOKS". Because in fact... the Supreme Court has ruled that, "ALL OFFICERS ARE NOT PRESUMED TO KNOW THE LAW", and can legally lock you up if they simply believe a law to exist without any responsibility to what the law actually is. Crazy how Citizens are held to a higher standard than those that are paid to enforce the law.
This man was EXTREMELY respectful the entire time, there was absolutely no reason to charge him with anything at all
If the same guy does it with a fake gun in a school causing a mass panic. And then he walks out saying "it´s a prank" do you really think he should NOT be charged with anything?
@@mikeserds2333 Gun in a school isn't really comparable to knife on empty beach
@@IvanBaturaChannel It´s comparable in front of the law. The point is simply that you are scaring other people with a fake prop. You can also run around with a fake gun at the beach threatening to shoot stuff. Where is the difference?
EXTREMELY Stupid you mean
@@mikeserds2333 the difference is that you can’t stab people at a range? It’s an empty beach, no one is being put at any immediate harm, even if it was a real knife. Also circumstances define situations. He is dressed up as Michael myers, a popular horror character. He never pretended to stab anyone or threaten anyone or anything of that sort. What if he did this on Halloween? Would it still be worth it to arrest him?
They didn't want to have to keep coming back with each call.
He does NOT get a A from me. This is a case of bad idea syndrome; The bad idea is walking around like a murderer when everyone else is alarmed because they don't know its all fake.
Yes, he should have known that being on the beach by himself in costume would get him arrested. Really? Did you think before you typed that?
Anytime an officer arrests someone when they haven’t committed a crime should be an automatic F
He was only fined. You mean he shouldn’t have been hand cuffed? Your comment is confusing.
@@robv5834 so are you
@@jimmygrant424 lol, jimbo, he wasn’t arrested. That’s why her comment didn’t make sense. Get it now? 🤦♂️
@@robv5834 cuffs were put on him, that's arrest. Seems like you are the one not making sense.
@@robv5834 He was arrested but released on his own recognizance by the police with a citation. Second, that citation was dropped by the prosecutor so he didn't pay.
Having said that, I do not see what the police did as being wrong. One need not break a law to leave police to reasonably believe that a law is broken. In my opinion, they should have released him and allowed the prosecutor to decide if criminal charges are warranted.
He hasn't done anything illegal and these cops just go up to him and start treating him like he is a criminal. Sounds like something that criminals do to innocent people.
I can understand atleast wanting to check him out. Guy in a mask walking around the beach with what appears to be a bloody knife, yea. Totally agree its alright for a cop to be like, hey guy, what ya doin? But once it was explained and found to be a toy knife, and clearly a costume, they should have let him go.
@@djbreal87 in that case their should be laws on clothing and costume...but that would not be a democratic step
I don't expect LEOs to know the nuances of every law (even judges have to reference the laws on the books in their chambers), but the obvious should flag officers, such as "an action that alarms people = disorderly conduct" is probably not a correct interpretation or the full law.
@@1SCme I do. If they are expected to enforce the law, then they should be expected to know the law.
Thats why remaining silent is so important. If you are being placed under arrest & are in handcuffs & you are citing a political statement. You can peacefully resist by not walking back to the squad car under your own power, let them carry you...it kinda worked for Ghandi & kinda didn't.
Love this Lawyer!
What kind of moronic law holds the citizen accountable for violating the law, acting on the words of a law enforcement officer, based on the fact that a citizen should know the law, yet does not hold the cop accountable for giving false legal advice as he should certainly know the law?
Using the cops own logic, they could be cited for disorderly conduct.
And armed kidnapping
Kind of like how if you break into a house, you get arrested for “trespassing” but the police don’t arrest the homeowner, even though they’re doing the same action you are, just standing there in a room. Outrageous.
I'm just here for the "Because although.." when it's time to handle grades
I'm here for the ... however...
@@teflonson718 😝
Lol exactly, there's always a uno reverse card for law's and rights in this country.
If the citizen is expected to know the law, then why would the same thought not apply to calls placed to 911 where it would be "reasonable" to asume the caller knows there isnt any crime taking place.
I like it how when they are putting him in the squad car, the officer is holding the knife properly even though they know it's a rubber prop :P
This is stupid. It’s around Halloween and as soon as they saw he had a costume on and a rubber knife and taking pictures he should have been left alone immediately.
There was no reason for him to ever be in the back of a police car or arrested.
This is no different from him wearing a cupid costume with a fake bow and arrow or a bunch of teenagers dressing up and taking pictures with props for social media nonsense.
Not one of these cops were smart enough to say, he’s basically doing a photo shoot with props. We need to leave him alone. And there is no one around him.
Once they saw it was a rubber knife they should have just left the scene.
When I seen DOC in the title I coulda swore I was gonna watch a video with a guy cursing some LEO’s out for disturbing his “murderous quiet-time” stroll on the beach!😳🙄🤦♂️🤷♂️🤣😂🤣😂😉
So citizens don't have a right to "Mistake of Law" but police do?
That's horseshit!
"All persons are presumed to know and understand the law " So why do so many people get arrested for NOT breaking ID laws or obstruction laws?
Crazy how law enforcement has transitioned to feelings enforcement.
This was a marketing stunt that demonstrated his effectiveness as a defense attorney. I'm somewhat impressed.
Seems like disorderly, is basically one of the first things I heard... These cops are trying to pin you with anything they can
Just amazing when the cops realised that their prisoner was actually a defence attorney. When questioned about the cops own legal conduct. That the cops did not sarcastically ask where did the actual attorney get his law degree?
dont need a law degree need common sense and the constitution
Sadly the only reason the didn’t take him to jail is due to him being “a well known defense attorney”. Also know as “an officer of the court”
When he was six years old that dude murdered his eldest sister Judith Myers and commited tons of brutal murders after he escaped from the mental asylum and those cops just let him walk free after they had him in custody .. that is a total travesty of justice 😮
Open carry gun
Texas: "That's his gawd-given right"
Open carry rubber knife
Texas: "GET ON THE GROUND!!"
As a landowner in Galveston County, I can tell you that Galveston has quite a few police that play fast and loose with people's rights. If I was going to wrongfully arrest someone, I'd make sure he wasn't a lawyer.
It is nothing like it was in the 80's and 90's.................and it is amazing how much Galveston has cleaned up since then as well. Cops included. And if he parked his car and started his beach journey at Murdocks compared to where he was detained, what took the cops so long to get to him????????
4:33 "All CITIZENS are presumed to know and understand the law." But in Heien v. North Carolina the Supreme Court has ruled that COPS don't have to know and understand the law. Let that sink in.
Think you mean *Let that sink in, not "The that sink in."
@@Eidolon1andOnly Yeah I noticed that and changed it. Thanks
Because logically speaking, you could never prove a negative, that you don't know the law. Every person charged would just say they didn't know, and then no laws would be enforceable. It's not a difficult concept.
the courts claim that there are too many laws on the books, and even police officers can't know them all...so they get a free pass at being ignorant of the laws..
@@Tijuanabill And cops that unlawfully arrest someone or unlawfully collects evidence in claim they did not understand the law and be immune from repercussions.
I think, "wearing a costume" and "carrying what a reasonable person could assume is a knife" are two different things.
Exactly! You’re the only person in the comments who also thought like me… dude had a mask on and was carrying what looked like a knife in a public space… Jesus how is that not suspicious at all?
Its the absolutely amazing decree that citizens must know the law but the police are not required 💀
People that call-in literally have the power of life and death in their hands.
Please let's not give Karen's an ego boost.
It's a good way of "reducing the herd" (survival of the SMART).
An idiot would have said "I haven't done anything wrong....I'm not going to listen to you. I'll just run away from you.....or towards you"........BANG---You're DEAD.
Jet Petty, You don’t what the word literally means, do you?
Citizens are expected to know the law. All the laws.
How much more should cops know ALL the laws?
Cops should have NO “qualified immunity.”
You're point would make sense if cops were the judge, jury and executioner. An arrest is not a conviction. The arrest has to go to a charging process by the prosecutor, and if it gets through that, it has to go to a trial before a judge and/or jury. There are systems in place to prevent people from being improperly charged or convicted that go far beyond the actions of the police in a detention or arrest. There's a reason case law comes from judges. They have the legal education and the luxury of spending months studying other cases and interpretations of the law prior to making a decision. A police officer has a fraction of that legal education, and an even smaller fraction of time to make a decision whether to arrest or not.
@@skyhawk_4526 arrests also ruin people’s lives even if the charges are later dropped. The cops are assholes and should no have qualified immunity.
@@skyhawk_4526 yeah but being arrested even if they were wrong remains on your record and unless the prosecutor thinks they were dumb in their move he probably won't disagree considering he ends up getting points for each case he wins and more points more important he can be.
This is repeated over and over and is honestly such a paper-mache case.
It is obviously unreasonable for ANY one singular person to know every single law and the case law behind it - whether they're a citizen, or a cop, or even an attorney.
At the same time, they can't say that being ignorant of the law justifies the crime - because then every single citizen is just going to claim they didn't know the law - and how do you prove that?
I'd much rather have things the way they are now and let the court clear up misunderstandings, than to allow every criminal off if they just say "Oh I'm sorry officer, I uh...didn't know I couldn't do that"
@@Alcsaar0 that's not the part the annoys me the most. The fact that cops are let off Scott free for not knowing but we get told that we should have known that the law said this.
If government expects citizens to know the law, the government needs to provide complimentary law degrees to every citizen. NO EXPECTATION WITHOUT QUALITY EDUCATION!
Contempt of cop. Absolutely ridiculous
When I was in my teens some friends and I were having an airsoft war (some guns looked realistic but all had the bright orange tip), we were in a field that had a brick building on one end of it and the owner of the building is the one who called. The officer showed up, cautiously at first, stayed behind his cruiser and told us all to put the weapons down. After a short conversation, he just told us to go over to a different field about 1000 yards away and that was that. Never had a gun pointed at us, never felt threatened, it's amazing what a little bit of reason (bunch of kids shooting at each other in a field, it's probably not real guns; dude in a Michael Myers costume with a bloody knife near Halloween is probably just a dude in a costume). Sure, investigate, make sure everything is normal but don't go looking for crimes that aren't there and the community will respect you much more.
Are you white?
Cop's explanation of "disorderly" @6:50 - That would mean you are enforcing feelings and opinions instead of facts and the law. You guys forgot what your job ACTUALLY is.
Bingo
Those cops were pissed they had to get out of their cars in the storm.
I don't think a court would conclude his intent was to cause alarm considering he is ON THE BEACH BEFORE A HURRICANE HITS. I'm sure in his mind, he's thinking "Who the hell will even see me?"
Absolutely NO ONE could see the ‘blood’ on that knife! He was on the beach ALL BY HIMSELF!
Probably a busybody Karen with Binocs.
... in the weather, were you could barely see him anyway. There mustve been some eagle eye observers.
We should all fight tooth and nail to get rid of overlybroad , unconstitutional laws such as disorderly conduct and loitering.
These are catch all charges they use for behavior they don't like
You just have to follow through with a civil rights lawsuit. Seems to me these officers just violated his 1st and 4th ammendment rights. If EVERYONE followed this with a suit against the cops/city, they would remove the ordinance very quickly. Unfortunately, too many people just pay the fine.
I have been told that ignorance of the law is no excuse for the public, yet cops get a pass when they don't know it.
If "all persons are presumed to understand and know the law," then why do Lawyers have to go to law school, and why do Attorneys have to pass their State Bar Association?
so police officers get away with knowing shit about there own law but citizens are supposed too know it all ?
A Hypocritical system at best.
As soon as these cops walked up you immediately hear someone say, looks like disorderly. This is the ready-made lie they use in every incident. Even a man walking on the deserted beach with no one around.
This grading system this guy uses is ridiculous and he always tries to find an excuse for the cops not knowing their jobs or the law.
Anytime a cop puts someone in cuffs and takes them to jail for a non-crime and takes away their freedom, that is an automatic F.
agreed.... always an F
dont forget the illegal search...
He bases his grading system on what the law currently IS, and what-ifs based on previous court rulings not what we wish/want it to be. AtA is trying to neutrally explain the incident and giving all relevant information, he is very clear on what is his opinion and what is the law. If you don't like it, write to your local representative and fight to get it changed.
@@parkergroseclose6956 it's not the law that's the problem .... it is the "interpretation" of that law
Problem with giving them an automatic F is that it could have gone much worse. If this is an F, what do you give them had they tazed him? Or flat out shot him? Both things that have happened under similar circumstances.
I thought his costume and his walk was perfect. Send him to Hollywood LMAO