Thank you for this demo. I have an opportunity on a nice low mileage 2015 Norge. I hate paying for valve adjustments. This is one of the easiest modern bikes I've ever seen to adjust.
Another reason why Guzzi owners buy Guzzi's, beautifully simple. Potentially a morning coffee job and a ride out for breakfast... Now lets see a Ducati owner get that done with a timer... LOL
Just one reason why i love Moto Guzzi. Ease of maintainance. Easy valve adjustment. Trans. that pulls out of the rear of engine. If only that oil fiter wasn't inside the sump. I don't need the fastest bike. I need one that is built to keep me riding and is easy to fix when something does go wrong.
Thank you for a perfect demonstration! I just adjusted the clearances on my V85TT. The right cylinder exhaust valve clearance needed some adjustment (it was a bit tight), but the rest were pretty good. Quite a bit more valve tapping then I remember when I started her cold (expected I guess since I increased the clearance) but I think I'll have take her for a ride before making a final judgement.
Wow that was amazingly quick and simple procedure. I'm thinking about buying a Norge and wanted to see what was involved for the value check. I own a Ducati Multistrada and wouldn't even have the plastics removed before having both sides done on the Norge. I want to buy one now so I can just do a valve adjustment under a hour.
Yes. Really couldn't be easier. That task anyway. Thankfully the whole bike is really designed so ease of maintainance is a common theme. If only the oil filter was not inside the engine.
Reminiscent of BMW boxer airhead valve adjustment, especially since it is a 2 valve. My R100RS looked the same. To find TDC on the airheads you used to be able to pull a rubber grommet off the side of the engine and see the flywheel and look for the OT stamp (line it up in the middle of the inspection hole). Check which side had loose tappets and then roll the engine over until the OT came around again and then it was ready for the other side. I have an R1200RT and even now, though it has shims, I still do a similar procedure to what you do on the Guzzi (but no quick adjustment, have to replace shims if required, but they pretty much never need replacing anyways) Nice work :-)
Yep, nice video Hunter, and I'm sure it'll help the confidence of newbies. I've never felt the need to use a torque wrench, though. Snug has always worked on my Breva 1100 and Cali.
Thanks! I made the video with and without using the torque wrench and decided to go with it.. I thought it might help to demonstrate how to get the hang of tightening the screws without stripping any and learning the hard way. You are correct, snug is all it needs.
I have a short fuse and ive found that taking a break from whats irritating me and come back like u said.but when working on motors i have to keep going untill i get it right
Great video! I just got a 2013 Griso and would like to learn how to do this procedure but alas....I'm not at all familiar with how to find TDC. If you ever get the time, could you do a "basics" video on the principles behind what TDC is and how to ensure it's at the right place before an adjustment?
NGK specifically says NOT to use ANY anti-seize on their plugs. NGK plugs are treated with a trivalent plating that replaces the need for anti-seize or lubricant.
This is great man! I'm going to do this on my V7 this weekend. Do you need to do a TPS reset after? I thought I had read somewhere that this what the case.
Saw the link on WildGuzzi. Nice job - thanks Hunter. And I'm glad you used the torque wrench just for GP👍. I have a "new" 2015 Norge 4 valve with 2k miles - I'd like to do do the next valve adj, and just be comfortable with doing/checking it myself. I assume the process is the same... But, I don't know if the tolerances are. Ciao.
When you turn the engine by putting it in a high gear en turning the backwheel, wouldn't it be best to turn the wheel backwards for then the camshaft chain will not push in the chain tensioner ? Normally the engine drives the wheel and when you do it the other way round the camshaft chain tensioner will be loaded with torque when you turn the wheel forward. It is possible that the timing between camshaft/valves and the position of the piston is not right.
Nice one! When at the end you said, just one last thing (and dropped the gears back down) I thought you were going instead to reach for a clean rag, and wipe the grease off that otherwise sparkly cylinder head! Am I right in thinking that the it would be the same sort of procedure on the new V85TT?
Thank you! Yes, you could use a torque wrench on that nut. Most people do not because of the need to control the position of the stud to achieve the proper gap.
I’ve been done a valve adjustment before but I want to do it myself because how else would I ever learn, and also don’t want to pay huge amounts of labor. Thanks for the video! I have a 2010 v7 will it be similarly method? Also, when going to the other engine head, will the intake and exhaust switch sides so that intake is closed to intake and exhaust is closest to the front or they don’t change at all on heads? And how important is it to synchronize and reset the tps?
Thanks for watching! The intake is to the rear on both cylinders so as you are facing the other side they would be reversed. The V7 is very similar but you will need to find the correct specifications for the gap, it's probably different than mine. The sync is a good idea but if the engine runs smoothly it's not the end of the world if you don't do it. Also, TPS reset is more related to the throttle sync
Nice video. I wonder how you dont have oil leak without replacing head cover gasket. With my griso I must replace the gasket every 7000km. I use the same approach, and tools.
Doesn't the Norge have a plug to see the flywheel marks with S for left and D for right? Or maybe hard to get to with fairings? That's how I always found TDC. Guzzis are so easy to work on.
No, it doesn't. Even on the bikes that have that I only use them for timing and that's after I verify the marks with a timing wheel. Sometimes they are off a bit!
@@hhjones9393 well. they are only 'off' a tiny bit. Clearly close enough to find the top of the piston, Then it is easy to find the top by looking at the tappets. Much easier than spinning the wheel all the way around blindly, anyway...
what do you see going wrong on this engines? I have a 1200 Sport 4V 07 with 40000km on it now And could not be happier. Just want to know what to look up for.
These are pretty well developed engines, the basic design goes back 50 years. If you are doing the maintenance and riding it regularly as it was intended (briskly!) then she will reward you with many years of joy!
Hi. Great video. English is not my language: would you please be so kind to write down what are you doing since the very moment you get that stick (from around 4:25 on): my understanding is not that good, but I'm sure It'll be better by reading it. Thanks a lot!
He's advancing the piston to Top dead center before making the valve adjustment by moving the rear wheel of the bike. The transmission is in 6th gear. So he put the wooden feeler gauge in there to help me identify when the piston is at top dead center.
@@hhjones9393 Thanks for the reply. To confirm - you rotated the rear wheel to turn the engine? My 2011 V7C didn't come with a center stand. As such, rotating the rear wheel will be a problem. Should I have any caution or concerns with respect to turning the engine by turning the alternator? AFAIK, I rotate it clockwise, right? Is it OK to slightly rotate it counter-clockwise if I've just gone past compression TDC?
it amazes me that they are still a flat tappet design and not a roller or hydraulic or anything. I guess that could be part of the limiting factor for the power. I know part of why Ducatis make so much power is that they run no valve springs and the valves are actuated mechanically. Weird that they are still the way they've always been though.
The Raconteur it's not a problem if you know about it and maintain them correctly, it's only a problem when you get people that have absolutely no mechanical knowledge that will ride it into the ground and never even take it to the dealership and get it tuned up.. I probably wouldn't have any issues because I've been raised around classic Triumphs. I don't know if I could fit on one though being 6'10 with barely a 30 inch leg inseam.
Having owned 7 of them I can tell you, YES< they are high quality, easy to work on and VERY reliable. I have also owned Harleys, Yammies, Kawis and Hondas. To me, the Guzzi is the best bike I have ever owned.
Why don't you adjust the tappet with the correct feeler gauge under the tappet?, Tighten it when you have the feeler under the tappet. It saves a lot of trial-and-error.
Braaperino Depends on where you’re from. Norge is pronounced differently in many languages. I am familiar with the pronunciations in Italian, Norwegian and some others. Most every Guzzi owner I’ve met knows how to say the name as the Italians would. But I’m speaking here to a primarily English speaking audience and so use that pronunciation. When in Rome.........
Thank you for this demo. I have an opportunity on a nice low mileage 2015 Norge. I hate paying for valve adjustments. This is one of the easiest modern bikes I've ever seen to adjust.
Another reason why Guzzi owners buy Guzzi's, beautifully simple. Potentially a morning coffee job and a ride out for breakfast... Now lets see a Ducati owner get that done with a timer... LOL
exactly what's drawing me to them. One day I'll own a Griso.
Just one reason why i love Moto Guzzi. Ease of maintainance. Easy valve adjustment. Trans. that pulls out of the rear of engine. If only that oil fiter wasn't inside the sump. I don't need the fastest bike. I need one that is built to keep me riding and is easy to fix when something does go wrong.
Gregory Timmons i can't disagree. The Guzzis are a lot of fun and pretty easy to take care of. The newer big blocks even have external filters.
Oil filter inside sump forces inspection and noticing anything that should not be in there, including small bits of gaskets or other seals.
Thanks for making this video with very simple and clear instructions. Kudos!
Thank you for a perfect demonstration! I just adjusted the clearances on my V85TT. The right cylinder exhaust valve clearance needed some adjustment (it was a bit tight), but the rest were pretty good. Quite a bit more valve tapping then I remember when I started her cold (expected I guess since I increased the clearance) but I think I'll have take her for a ride before making a final judgement.
Wow that was amazingly quick and simple procedure. I'm thinking about buying a Norge and wanted to see what was involved for the value check. I own a Ducati Multistrada and wouldn't even have the plastics removed before having both sides done on the Norge. I want to buy one now so I can just do a valve adjustment under a hour.
Wow, how simple was that? Thanks for sharing and taking the time to do this, it's much appreciated 😊
Thank you!
Excellent Hunter. Good steady camera makes such a difference.
It's steady alright! It was on a tripod. Wiggly video is a distraction to me too.
Looks well designed and well engineered.
Yes. Really couldn't be easier. That task anyway. Thankfully the whole bike is really designed so ease of maintainance is a common theme. If only the oil filter was not inside the engine.
Reminiscent of BMW boxer airhead valve adjustment, especially since it is a 2 valve. My R100RS looked the same. To find TDC on the airheads you used to be able to pull a rubber grommet off the side of the engine and see the flywheel and look for the OT stamp (line it up in the middle of the inspection hole). Check which side had loose tappets and then roll the engine over until the OT came around again and then it was ready for the other side. I have an R1200RT and even now, though it has shims, I still do a similar procedure to what you do on the Guzzi (but no quick adjustment, have to replace shims if required, but they pretty much never need replacing anyways)
Nice work :-)
The Guzzi twins with a 4 or 5 speed do have a timing plug in the flywheel housing like the BMW. Good for verifying position.
Excellent video. Thank you so much. Are you still planning to do video on synchronization and TPS reset? Thanks again.
Yep, nice video Hunter, and I'm sure it'll help the confidence of newbies. I've never felt the need to use a torque wrench, though. Snug has always worked on my Breva 1100 and Cali.
Thanks! I made the video with and without using the torque wrench and decided to go with it.. I thought it might help to demonstrate how to get the hang of tightening the screws without stripping any and learning the hard way.
You are correct, snug is all it needs.
wow easy peasy with these guzzi, very simple to do.
Wowow!
Bang bang, job is done! Great video.
Great video Hunter. Still looking for the synchronization and TPS reset! Are you still planning to do this? Would love to see it if you are.
I have a short fuse and ive found that taking a break from whats irritating me and come back like u said.but when working on motors i have to keep going untill i get it right
Great video! I just got a 2013 Griso and would like to learn how to do this procedure but alas....I'm not at all familiar with how to find TDC. If you ever get the time, could you do a "basics" video on the principles behind what TDC is and how to ensure it's at the right place before an adjustment?
Awesome video. Very helpful. Thanks Thanks
Good detailed explanation
Thanks a ton
NGK specifically says NOT to use ANY anti-seize on their plugs. NGK plugs are treated with a trivalent plating that replaces the need for anti-seize or lubricant.
Very useful video indeed.
Hey man, thanks so much for this...quite simple! All the best!
Thank you! Glad you found it helpful.
@@hhjones9393 very very helpful thanks again!
This is great man! I'm going to do this on my V7 this weekend. Do you need to do a TPS reset after? I thought I had read somewhere that this what the case.
Did this hundreds of times on the RQ-5A Hunter's "V75 Hi-e" engine. Extremely similar. Lots easier to spin the engine with a propeller, though.
For those that have commented on my torn valve cover gasket it is still on the bike and not even weeping! Just lucky I guess.
Saw the link on WildGuzzi. Nice job - thanks Hunter. And I'm glad you used the torque wrench just for GP👍. I have a "new" 2015 Norge 4 valve with 2k miles - I'd like to do do the next valve adj, and just be comfortable with doing/checking it myself. I assume the process is the same... But, I don't know if the tolerances are. Ciao.
10 min valve job! Take that the rest of the motorcycle world! 🤜💥 🤛
Which torque wrench are you using? I'm looking for one, and the one you're using, seems like you trust, so that's the one I want. Thanks.
How do you change the inside pair of spark plugs? I didn't even know they had them
Great video! I have a 2008 1200 Breva Sport. Same procedure & specs I assume? Also looking forward to your video on synchronization and TPS setting.
Yes indeed, same procedure. I would suggest verifying the clearance for your model though.
Hey Hunter, when are you going to do the sychronization and TPS reset video? Thanks for the good VA video!
I think that is coming soon, the current state of the world has left me with some free time!
Fantastic vid m8 many thanks
Thanks!
When you turn the engine by putting it in a high gear en turning the backwheel, wouldn't it be best to turn the wheel backwards for then the camshaft chain will not push in the chain tensioner ? Normally the engine drives the wheel and when you do it the other way round the camshaft chain tensioner will be loaded with torque when you turn the wheel forward. It is possible that the timing between camshaft/valves and the position of the piston is not right.
Thanks!
one more Q: should you check the right side as well?
There's no mark are way view TDC?
That was fucking awesome! Thank you sir!
Nice work. +1 sub
Nice one! When at the end you said, just one last thing (and dropped the gears back down) I thought you were going instead to reach for a clean rag, and wipe the grease off that otherwise sparkly cylinder head! Am I right in thinking that the it would be the same sort of procedure on the new V85TT?
Nick Staib Thanks Nick. I haven't seen the valve gear on the V85 but I'm sure it will be quite similar.
Great tutorial... just a question, is it possible to use the torque wrench also for the register nut?
Thank you!
Yes, you could use a torque wrench on that nut. Most people do not because of the need to control the position of the stud to achieve the proper gap.
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I’ve been done a valve adjustment before but I want to do it myself because how else would I ever learn, and also don’t want to pay huge amounts of labor. Thanks for the video! I have a 2010 v7 will it be similarly method? Also, when going to the other engine head, will the intake and exhaust switch sides so that intake is closed to intake and exhaust is closest to the front or they don’t change at all on heads? And how important is it to synchronize and reset the tps?
Thanks for watching!
The intake is to the rear on both cylinders so as you are facing the other side they would be reversed. The V7 is very similar but you will need to find the correct specifications for the gap, it's probably different than mine.
The sync is a good idea but if the engine runs smoothly it's not the end of the world if you don't do it. Also, TPS reset is more related to the throttle sync
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Hi Hunter. Can to tell me when you say #4 for intake and #6 for exhaust, is that the same as .10mm and .15mm? 20007 Norge 1200.
That is correct, 0.004" is 0.10mm and 0.006" is 0.15mm
Nice video. I wonder how you dont have oil leak without replacing head cover gasket. With my griso I must replace the gasket every 7000km. I use the same approach, and tools.
Doesn't the Norge have a plug to see the flywheel marks with S for left and D for right? Or maybe hard to get to with fairings? That's how I always found TDC. Guzzis are so easy to work on.
No, it doesn't. Even on the bikes that have that I only use them for timing and that's after I verify the marks with a timing wheel. Sometimes they are off a bit!
@@hhjones9393 well. they are only 'off' a tiny bit. Clearly close enough to find the top of the piston, Then it is easy to find the top by looking at the tappets. Much easier than spinning the wheel all the way around blindly, anyway...
i like bikes that they are easy to maintain , most bikes needs to remove the fuel tank before that
what do you see going wrong on this engines? I have a 1200 Sport 4V 07 with 40000km on it now And could not be happier. Just want to know what to look up for.
These are pretty well developed engines, the basic design goes back 50 years. If you are doing the maintenance and riding it regularly as it was intended (briskly!) then she will reward you with many years of joy!
Hi. Great video. English is not my language: would you please be so kind to write down what are you doing since the very moment you get that stick (from around 4:25 on): my understanding is not that good, but I'm sure It'll be better by reading it. Thanks a lot!
He's advancing the piston to Top dead center before making the valve adjustment by moving the rear wheel of the bike. The transmission is in 6th gear. So he put the wooden feeler gauge in there to help me identify when the piston is at top dead center.
This video makes a Ducati valve adjustment look like the worst operation ever. MG made this easy
Thanks for the video. How did you turn the engine?
By the rear wheel
@@hhjones9393 Thanks for the reply. To confirm - you rotated the rear wheel to turn the engine?
My 2011 V7C didn't come with a center stand. As such, rotating the rear wheel will be a problem. Should I have any caution or concerns with respect to turning the engine by turning the alternator? AFAIK, I rotate it clockwise, right? Is it OK to slightly rotate it counter-clockwise if I've just gone past compression TDC?
@@henndawg42069 Yes, you should be fine rotating it that way with both plugs out.
@@hhjones9393 Thanks :)
it amazes me that they are still a flat tappet design and not a roller or hydraulic or anything. I guess that could be part of the limiting factor for the power. I know part of why Ducatis make so much power is that they run no valve springs and the valves are actuated mechanically. Weird that they are still the way they've always been though.
It's a huge flaw in the older Guzzi engines that causes a lot of problems. At least in the Stelvio they changed to roller tappets in 2013.
The Raconteur it's not a problem if you know about it and maintain them correctly, it's only a problem when you get people that have absolutely no mechanical knowledge that will ride it into the ground and never even take it to the dealership and get it tuned up.. I probably wouldn't have any issues because I've been raised around classic Triumphs.
I don't know if I could fit on one though being 6'10 with barely a 30 inch leg inseam.
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farmoboy83 you said something?
Is guzzi quality over all is good ?
Having owned 7 of them I can tell you, YES< they are high quality, easy to work on and VERY reliable. I have also owned Harleys, Yammies, Kawis and Hondas. To me, the Guzzi is the best bike I have ever owned.
Why don't you adjust the tappet with the correct feeler gauge under the tappet?, Tighten it when you have the feeler under the tappet. It saves a lot of trial-and-error.
No timing mark for TDC?
Nope
Hello there, I have to tell you that you make a lot of noise when you throw your tools on the floor everything ells is OK.!
Hes not straight, NOR GAY. not norj lol
Braaperino
Depends on where you’re from. Norge is pronounced differently in many languages. I am familiar with the pronunciations in Italian, Norwegian and some others. Most every Guzzi owner I’ve met knows how to say the name as the Italians would. But I’m speaking here to a primarily English speaking audience and so use that pronunciation.
When in Rome.........
Hey Hunter, when are you going to do the sychronization and TPS reset video? Thanks for the good VA video!
It still may happen! I just haven't had time to figure out all the photography and editing yet.