She Survived the Rwandan Genocide and FORGAVE Her Family’s Murderers | Immaculée Ilibagiza
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Do you ever feel like you met a saint in real life? That’s what it’s like to talk with Immaculée Ilibagiza.
Immaculée was in college when the Rwandan Genocide broke out in 1994. Her parents and brother were killed by people they knew who had turned to the side of the government. She hid in a neighbor’s small bathroom with seven other women, barely saying a word for three months just to stay alive. I mean, can you IMAGINE what that was like?
We talk about her memories of the apparitions of Our Lady of Kibeho in 1982, her time hiding in that bathroom during the Rwandan genocide, her internal struggles with anger against her persecutors, and how she eventually came to FORGIVE her parents’ murderer. Stay tuned to the end, where Immaculée shares some words of encouragement when you feel like you can’t forgive those who have hurt you.
This is a heavy topic, but Immaculée’s love for Jesus and Our Lady are overflowing!
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Left to Tell: Discovering God Amidst the Rwandan Holocaust: www.immaculee.com/collections...
Our Lady of Kibeho: Mary Speaks to the World From the Heart of Africa: www.immaculee.com/collections...
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I created an online video series called "As We Forgive Those," which features Immaculée. The goal of the series I want to help you see forgiveness in a new way. We start by defining what forgiveness is NOT. (It does not excuse the person for the pain they caused you. It does not mean you have to reconcile with the person.) Then I introduce you to people who went through great lengths to forgive the unforgivable. Their courage is beyond belief. And their stories will inspire you. coaching.reallifecatholic.com/forgive/
What was she looking fór in the Bible when she got it?
An incredible life story. May God continue letting her help teach us about faith and forgiveness. ❤
Sir, I love the talk of the lady being from Burundi. That said, this idea of Hutus and Tutsis killing each other is unbearable for me because it is very inaccurate. First, Hutu and Tutsi is quite a myth. As any Rwandan what makes a Hutu a Hutu and the reverse, you get no answer. The Rwandan genocide is one that never should have happened. The outrage of our Lady of Kibeho is understood now because the genocide in Burundi and Rwanda were political sacrifices by political elites of a certain persuasion to reconfigure the political landscape in their favour. This had among other aims destabilising Congo through invasions than would be carried from the eastern border (Burundi, Rwanda and Uganda). So it went this way. There were conditions that could have caused mass killings but not a genocide. But the genocide was ignited and allowed maximum fuel for maximum casualties. That is what was needed to change the politics of the region. So you have Tutsis being exterminated under the passive eye of an army which was almost 100/100. Pause and think: How did Tutsis perish in Burundi when they controlled completely the security forces? There was a reason. Go to Rwanda in 94, same scenario. The Rpf, controlled by the Tutsis so to say, was present and was the strongest force after the killing of the president. What did Rpf do: It refused international help allowing the bad guys as the lady says to take control of the situation. Note, just as in Burundi, Rwandan Tutsis perishing in a country where Tutsis were the dominant military, Uganda being ruled by Tutsi leaders so to say, Burundi same is a joke. Few thousand people dead was the most that could have happened under normal circumstances. Evidence: The UN and the international community never envisaged a genocide. It was not feasible unless RPF or the Tutsi army in Burundi could be part of the plan. The genocide in Burundi and Rwanda therefore happened only because the Tutsi military leaders in those countries blessed it and did not oppose it, probably played an active part of the genocide. That is undisputed for the case of Burundi and equally impossible to argue against for the Rwandan case. I understand why our Lady of Kibeho was so shocked. These were not just genocide, they were unbelievable human sacrifices for Satan where Tutsis betrayed their kins.
I don't get this denial of Tutsi survivors of the genocide whether in Burundi or Rwanda who come talking about the attacks who were perpetrated by Hutus but never about why the armies in which their relatives were serving did nothing to save them. In Burundi, an army which ate almost all the budget of the country, battalions and battalions, paracommados, planes, armoured divisions, engineering battalions, police and gendarmerie all in the hand of Tutsis stayed in the barracks while their Tutsi relatives were being slaughtered from grandparents to babies. Why do they not dare face that reality. Rwanda was pretty much the same. The Tutsi armed organisation simply has not produced a credible audit track of where they were. You don't hear stories of Kagame's men killing and capturing the killers or calling for help from Uganda which was Tutsi leadership or Burundi also Tutsi. The Tutsi genocide would only naje sense if, to take a parallel, the Jewish genocide had happened with Jewish having a military force as good as Hitlers and France being militarily under the Jews and you have Poland in same configuration. It is an insult to the Jews to relate the shoa and the Rwandan and Burundi. In the latter case, it is Tutsi military rulers who ignited the genocide and then fuelled the genocide to move from just killings to genocide.
If the lady wants answer, I suggest she ask the current president Kagame because he was the one who could stop the genocide from even happening through his forces which were stronger on field or by calling on Uganda that backed him or Burundi that was Tutsi military or the regional armies or the international community at large. Kagame was the beneficiary of the genocide and guess what, he has put in the Rwandan constitution that he may not be sued even for treason after he leave office. Everyone know why! And also before I go, Kagame sated last year that he would lock up the thousands of pilgrims that attended Kibeho shrine of the feast of the Assumption because they worship poverty. The enemty between Kagame and Our Lady is very clear
Students at Monroe Community College built a replica of the bathroom where Immaculée and the 7 other women hid. It was part of their project after reading Left to Tell. I was able to go inside the structure to feel how small it was for only one person. Immaculée was also the keynote speaker in my hometown at the Catholic Women's Conference in 2017.
Beautiful! You can see Jesus in her radiance
I start my Rosary from the moment I wake up in the morning. Keep good things going on our heads and hearts before the world tries to get in. 😊
I bought this book shortly after watching Hotel Rwanda and it has become one of my favorite books of all times...I read it in one day and was overwhelmed with all type of emotions so happy to see Immaculee still smiling and surviving after all she's been thru.God bless
I had the blessed opportunity to spend a day retreat with her. Her grace and mercy is beyond words.
I watched this interview & felt a chill down my spine...we Catholics need to cling to our Rosaries as it is only the Blessed Mother who can draw us close to her Son...currently there is so much of hate & division across the globe...so like Immaculee says we need to
pray always, every single day!
Our Lady of Kibeho pray for us! 🙏🙏🙏🌹
She immediately makes me think of St Maria Goretti when it comes to forgiveness. I love her compassionate demeanor !
I heard her incredible story on the Hallow app previously. No less touching and impressive. Immaculaa's life story helped me find my way back to my Faith. Thank you for this show.
This was so hard to listen to. I had to do it in parts, yet I could not stop until the end even though I already know her story. Today it just seems so close to home. I have had my bouts with hatred married to an emotionally abusive husband, and I have had my victory of forgiveness toward him and others in my path. When I seek to forgive, God always first brings me to repentance where I see how I have offended His kind love and goodness with my unforgiveness. But this video still rends my heart because I see things going so bad every day all around me, and I know the war isn't over. I must keep forgiving; I can only do it with God. Her story is so powerful and essential. Thank you, Chris, for this interview about REAL WARFARE and only love wins.
I have Immaculee’s book, ‘Miracles of the Seven Sorrows Rosary -A Blessing in Disguise.’ She’s a lovely woman with so many uplifting stories to share. Loved this interview, Chris. God bless you both.
This is such a powerful story! Thank you for your willingness to forgive it’s beautiful
Beautiful. God bless and protect her always.🙏🏽
Her life is the living Gospel. A true Divine Mercy among us. You are a saint and an inspiration Immaculee.🙏🙏🙏
She came to my Catholic Church so many years ago. It was such a powerful evening so filled with emotion but her faith was amazing! I've thought of her often over the years. She has definitely strengthened thousands! TY for bringing her to me again!
We have been so deeply graced to have each of you come and share your beautiful hearts and prayerful and inspiring words with us at St. Dominic's Catholic Church, San Francisco during the 150th Jubilee this year! May God and Our Lady bless both of you and your very powerful ministries for the Church and the world! We love each of you in San Francisco! 🙏❤️🙏
I am so happy to see this today! I just finished reading Our Lady of Kibeho, what a beautiful book!!
Immaculee and her whole family are saints.
What an incredible interview! Thank you!
I never have enough for you, my sister....whenever i was you i cry and iam so moved....to forgive. MAY THE GOOD LORD CONTINUE TO USE YOU MORE. HAIL HOLY Queen, Mother of Mercy
Thank you for talking to lovely Immaculée. God bless you both. 🙏💖
Thank you, thank you, thank you Lord God Almighty for leading you both and everyone you work with to share this story. It's your first video I have truelly watched, I usually just watch the shorts and I thank the Lord, he led me where I needed to be. I have been asking him to heal me from my shame an unforgiveness towards myself of my past sinful life.
The words in the Lords prayer that we will be forgiven as we forgive others also also stood out when I began to really reflect on the prayer, and I always turn to God to help me forgive others and he freedom from it is truelly only from God. However, wil my self and knowing the hurt and pain I have caused I have been struggling to not be shameful, even after confession and knowing that the Lord forgets our sins and that I am not trusting him and being prideful to think there is something to big for him to solve.
I really needed to hear those words, as much as I have heard them so much: 'Forgive them for they know not what they do'. The Lords grace covered me as I heard that. I am also them, even in my own life, I have been victim and perpetrator to my own sins, and the Lord calls us to forgive all who trespass against us, no exception, I am also worthy of my own forgiveness. All I can say is Thank You God ❤❤❤
Breathtaking and beautiful.
Love this!! I got to meet her in person back in 2022 in Delaware. Glad to hear her story again!
Thank you so much for sharing this. It really touches my heart. God bless you Chris and Immaculée, and praise God for His faithful love!!!
Hey Chris, this is pure testament what she went through
she spoke here in Greensboro for our "Room at the Inn" banquet....very ecumenical crowd but she had no fear to talk about the rosary and Seven sorrows chaplet..
Read also her book about Segatashya! You will not regret it!!
Amazing Interview.
Thank you for sharing your story...Keep sharing the Word of God with forgiveness in our hearts.❤
Such a powerful interview. Thank you Immaculée for for sharing your story and thank you Chris for another inspiring, hopeful interview. Please keep doing what you are doing.
I have to say, seeing this pop up in my email gave me chills. I was just thinking a few days ago about where she is today and then this. I saw her TV appearance on Oprah? maybe or or possibly EWTN? Which seems more likely but I'm sure it was on regular TV a long time ago
Around min 13 ... when she's talking about two tribes being pitted against each other, on the back of the idea that Our Lady's message was really for everyone in the world.... made me think of democrats & republicans here in the US. I really like the idea of seeing the other group as our brothers, and returning to God so that our disagreements don't lead to wars
Even in Kubeho when our Lady asked the visionaries and other children to pray the rosary, she didn't just ask catholics. All children protestants and Muslims were asked to pray.
She told them, you are all my flowers.
We love divisions , the heaven is not interested in that.
Out Lady of Kibeho pray for the world
“pray with all your heart” 😭
WOW! 🙏
I think it's hard for Americans to understand that this atrocity happened to people in modern times. That we are so blessed to not have experienced this kind of horror in our country. God bless her.
We knew that already.
You were not there
So what are you telling us