Our Lady of Kibeho and the Rwandan Genocide - Jimmy Akin's Mysterious World
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- In 1983, seers at Kibeho, Rwanda, received visions of a barbaric conflict and in the 1990s, almost 1 million people died in the genocide. Then in 2001, the apparitions received official Church approval. Jimmy Akin and Dom Bettinelli look at what happened, which visions were genuine, and their significance for us today.
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Further Resources:
• Amagara Marungi: www.amagaramar...
• Immaculee Ilibagiza’s book Our Lady of Kibeho: amzn.to/2ZBp7BJ
• Immaculee Ilibagiza’s book Left to Tell: Discovering God Amidst the Rwandan Holocaust: amzn.to/3zaIuiD
• Philip Gourevitch’s book We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed with Our Families: Stories from Rwanda: amzn.to/30RmsVB
• Bishop’s Declaration (full text): kibeho-sanctuar...
• Vatican document on evaluating private revelations: www.vatican.va...
• Miracle Hunter page on the apparitions: www.miraclehunt...
• Messages of Kibeho: www.miraclehunt...
• Summary of bishop’s approval of apparition: www.miraclehunt...
• More of bishop’s declaration: www.kibeho-can...
• Our Lady of Kibeho: en.wikipedia.o...
• Short video on the apparitions: • Marian Aparitions in K...
• 1994 Rwandan genocide: en.wikipedia.o...
• Seven Sorrows Rosary (background): en.wikipedia.o...
• Seven Sorrows Rosary (devotional guide): www.immaculee....
• Rwandan Revolution: en.wikipedia.o...
• Rwandan Civil War: en.wikipedia.o...
• Rwandan Genocide: en.wikipedia.o...
• Juvenal Habyarimana: en.wikipedia.o...
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• Jimmy Akin’s Mysterious World Map: www.google.com...
Poor Marie Claire... the "bully" turned holy lost her life in the genocide! She is a martyr in my opinion. Her conversion story is beautiful. Powerful. Thank you for your show. Very interesting.
She was a bully? So was I. She gave me the seven sorrows. I weep for her, usually now in joy, yet also sorrow … for what she went thru. That rosary saved my life. It still does
Segatsahya also died in the genocide.
I am so glad you covered this Jimmy. There is so much African Catholic experiences that need to be shared. Saint Thomas Aquinas, pray for us.
Thank you Jimmy for this informative video. Allow me to make a nuanced correction though, speaking as a Rwandan. In minutes 16:43, the question was asked, "who was doing the killing?" refering to the 1994 Genocide against the Tutsi, you answered "both side". Actually your answer may lead people to misunderstand what was actually happening. The killing were done (performed) by the 'hutu extremists' (mostly Interahamwe) against 'Tutsi' and 'sympathetic hutu' who were protecting 'Tutsi', hence the name "Genocide against Tutsi" and not the Rwandan genocide (which may lead people to miss the point on who were the targeted victims for extermination, which was 'Tutsi' specifically and not the Rwandans in general).
Beside this thorny point, i love your presentation and summary conclusion. Thank you.
Good point!
Thank you. 🙏🏻🙌🏻
We need to always tell the truth and avoid mistakes with issues like this.
It's HARD to not hate the Hutu, the more I learn about this. I've befriended a few, and it's helped me mellow out a bit.
Thank you for the distinction. Let peace and reconciliation ( if possible) reign in Rwanda.
Hi Jimmy, I suggest you to consider mysterious place from Lithuania - Hill of Crosses. It is quite a remarkable Catholic holy place. There are various legends and tales about this place, including haunting and stories about unexpected deaths of people involved in attempts to destroy this holly place in the times of Soviet occupation.
(If you read my feedback on the podcast, I suggest referring to me as He Who Must Not Be Named On A Family Podcast)
I enjoy listening to Mysterious World every week. The episodes on Marian apparitions are among my favorite. I'm Eastern Orthodox, but currently attend my local Catholic parish because I cannot get to my Orthodox one. Your explanations help me better understand what the Catholic Church believes and doesn't believe about apparitions, and I appreciate then you are frank about the facts, and thus frankly state why an unapproved apparition is unapproved. You handled the Fatima matter well, so that your explanation was not offensive to Eastern Orthodox Christians, many of whom resent the way Catholics generally present Fatima, forgetting that the Eastern Orthodox have been there the whole time and suffered under Russian Communism. Let us pray earnestly for the reunion of our Churches.
P.S. We need a complete list of every book Jimmy Akin owns. I need more suggestions for my library, even though I already own slightly over 4,000 physical books plus 7500-ish ebooks and audiobooks (there is some overlap, since I own some titles in two or all of those forms).
Listening to this in the aftermath of the Episcopal Consecration of Filipino priest Arnaldo Catalán upon his appointment as Apostolic Nuncio to Rwanda.
I am also former PCA now Catholic, and I came from a young earth only background. I was afraid it undermined the rest of the Bible if you started interpreting portions of Genesis as not being literal facts. That problem goes away when you have a magisterium guided by the Holy Spirit interpreting the meaning of the Sacred Scriptures instead of it being up to the individual.
I had a similar experience. I was taught young earth creationism in my super conservative Baptist middle school, and it was heavily implied to me that Christianity stood or fell on the issue. I was afraid that I would end up jettisoning the bulk of the Bible if I "compromised" on Genesis. It was not until I became Catholic and had the guardrails of the magisterium that I felt safe enough to reevaluate what I had been taught in the light of reason.
Everything our lady said at kebeho rawanda came true
Our lady never lies never
This was fascinating to me, I had never studied this Apparition.
My children and I pray the rosary together and we've spoken often about different apparitions, which I think help to reinforce our faith and let us know that God binds us together as one united family in the body of Christ.
The visions in this one to me were reminiscent of Our Lady of Fatima.
Thank you Dom and Jimmy, your continuing efforts are appreciated by us reverts and converts, showing us depths to our faith that are often neglected.
Godspeed and God bless 🙏
Excellent pair of episodes! I've been curious about Our Lady of Kibeho for some time but haven't gotten around to reading Immaculee Ilibagiza's book. It's a really fascinating story. I especially found it touching that Marie Claire, who died in the genocide, had her life completely transformed by her encounter with Our Lady. Also, since today's episode is about a Marian apparition...Happy Feast of Our Lady of Lourdes! I'm curious how many other appearances you plan on covering in future episodes. My favorite is Our Lady of Guadalupe and I would love to hear Jimmy's take on the tilma.
I sympathize deeply with Ian regarding his struggles with Genesis. That was me for so many years. I have a lot more peace about it now, but I think that if I had not become Catholic, I could easily have become disillusioned with my faith because of those questions.
Hi from Scotland, your show is great. I like the way it's presented too. Cool guys. God bless you both on your journey from a fellow Catholic in Scotland 🙏❤🤗👍
Jimmy and Dom-- This was one of your best-ever episodes and definitely my favorite 2nd part. I read "Our Lady of Kibeho" between the two episodes and I can't tell you how important your perspective was in putting the book in context. It's yet another reminder that getting more than one source on important and complex matters is vital! I felt uncomfortable when, while reading the book, the author told her cheating boyfriend that he needed to "apologize to Mary" and then, as an afterthought, "apologize to God," but she never really mentioned Confession. That moment, plus your extremely valuable information about the non-approved seers, reminded me that just because information is coming from an ardent Catholic who means well, it's not exempt from critical thinking. Thanks again!
First! Good morning everyone
Probably the best episode yet
Excellent episode Jimmy, God bless you and peace be with you!
Hi Jimmy and Dom. I would like your take on the holy house of Loreto in Italy, I have seen a few videos about it, but I would like to hear your fair aproach. God bless you both and the rest of the people involved in your wonderful programme, 🙏🕊
I love love loved the comparison to parables when Jesus and the authors of the New Testament are speaking about it, especially, the first 11 chapters of Genesis. Puts things, once again, in better perspective. I'm becoming more and more convinced that Jimmy is a time lord. Just to have the time to research all of these topics is amazing! Jimmy and Dom, keep up the excellent work, and G-D bless!
Super show, guys.
Way to rock the mando shirt Dom!
This was great! I love how thoroughly these cases get investigated
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I do wonder about most visionaries being women (at Lourdes, Fatima, Kibeho, etc. etc.). Maybe you can discuss this sometime.
I think there have historically been quite a few men as well. In Scripture, both St. Paul and St. John had visions. St. Augustine and his mother shared a vision at Ostia. I'm pretty sure some of the male mystics of the Middle Ages such as St. Bernard of Clairvaux also had visions.
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This is one of the reasons why the Orthodox Churches are sceptical because the are usually young women.
@@albertaowusu1790 I don't think that's a good reason to be skeptical. The most important apparition of all of Salvation History, the annunciation of Gabriel to Mary, was percieved by Mary as a young woman.
@@tafazzi-on-discord I agree with you but try telling the Eastern Orthodox that.
Awesome way to start my 10 hour drive
Enjoyed this video very much.
Thank you
It’s amazing how level headed the Bishop’s assessment is considering it was taken amidst the genocidal chaos of the tribal wars.
Thank you so much for everything you share with us. Have you or can you speak more on the apparitions at GARABANDAL?. I heard you speak briefly on another video but would love to know more.
Thanks!
Hey Jimmy and Dom, thanks for the episode.
If you want more info on Nathalie's fast there's a video on CZcams called "Our Lady of Kibeho" by "Seton Parish" starting minutes 33 they describe the fast she undertook.
Awesome as always.
Is there a parallel or correlation between the apparitions of medjugorje yugoslavia and that of Kibeho? Yougoslavia fell into chaos after the death of dictator Tito. The six children who had a vision of the Virgin Mary were also told of the upcoming war. Like the visionaries of Kibeho, these apparitions began in the 1980s. Do you see any similarities? Just curious! Thanks for your informative posting. Much appreciated!
Hi Jimmy I love your show I think its amazing, I think it would be really interesting if you could do a show about Swedish scientist, philosopher, theologian and mystic Emanuel Swedenborg, his life, conversion, supposed mystical experiences and religious movement he inspired have been of interest to me for some time. His own books are available on English, there is also a website The Swedenborg Foundation by his followers, and you can find biographies about him too
God bless you and Dom and Our Lady of Kibeho pray for us 🙏
Emanuel Swedenborg is on the list! :-)
Nice video!
55:20 that is certainly a memorable title.
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7 Sorrows Rosary
Sign of the Cross: In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
Introductory Prayer:
My God, I offer You this Rosary for Your glory, so I can honor your Holy Mother, the Blessed Virgin, so I can share and meditate upon her suffering. I humbly beg you to give me true repentance for all my sins. Give me wisdom and humility, so that I may receive all the indulgences contained in this prayer.
Act of Contrition: “O My God, I am heartily sorry…”
3 Hail Marys in Honor of Our Lady’s Tears
“Most Merciful Mother, remind us always about the Sorrows of your Son, Jesus.”
1) The First Sword of Sorrow: The Prophesy of Simeon
Pray 1 Our Father and 7 Hail Marys.
“Most Merciful Mother, remind us always about the Sorrows of your Son, Jesus.”
2) The Second Sword of Sorrow: The Flight Into Egypt
Pray 1 Our Father and 7 Hail Marys.
“Most Merciful Mother, remind us always about the Sorrows of your Son, Jesus.”
3) The Third Sword of Sorrow: The Loss of Jesus in the Temple
Pray 1 Our Father and 7 Hail Marys.
“Most Merciful Mother, remind us always about the Sorrows of your Son, Jesus.”
4) The Fourth Sword of Sorrow: Mary Meets Jesus on the Way to Calvary
Pray 1 Our Father and 7 Hail Marys.
“Most Merciful Mother, remind us always about the Sorrows of your Son, Jesus.”
5) The Fifth Sword of Sorrow: Mary Stands at the Foot of the Cross
Pray 1 Our Father and 7 Hail Marys.
“Most Merciful Mother, remind us always about the Sorrows of your Son, Jesus.”
6) The Sixth Sword of Sorrow: Mary Receives the Dead Body of Jesus in Her Arms
Pray 1 Our Father and 7 Hail Marys.
“Most Merciful Mother, remind us always about the Sorrows of your Son, Jesus.”
7) The Seventh Sword of Sorrow: The Body of Jesus is Placed in the Tomb
Pray 1 Our Father and 7 Hail Marys.
“Most Merciful Mother, remind us always about the Sorrows of your Son, Jesus.”
Concluding Prayer: Queen of Martyrs, your heart suffered so much. I beg you, by the merits of the tears you shed in these terrible and sorrowful times, to obtain for me and all the sinners of the world the grace of complete sincerity and repentance. Amen.
Mary, who was conceived without sin and who suffered for us, pray for us.
Mary, who was conceived without sin and who suffered for us, pray for us.
Mary, who was conceived without sin and who suffered for us, pray for us.
Sign of the Cross: In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
Great video...can yall do one on The Divine Mercy message
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Litany of the Holy Angels
Lord, have mercy on us. Christ, have mercy on us.
Lord, have mercy on us. Christ, hear us. Christ, graciously hear us. God, the Father of Heaven, have mercy on us. God, the Son, Redeemer of the world, have mercy on us. God, the Holy Ghost, have mercy on us. Holy Trinity, one God, have mercy on us. Holy Mary, Queen of Angels, pray for us. Holy Mother of God, pray for us. Holy Virgin of virgins, pray for us. St Michael, who wast ever the defender of the people of God, pray for us. St Michael, who didst drive from heaven Lucifer and his rebel crew, pray for us. St Michael, who didst cast a down to hell the accuser of our brethren, pray for us. St Gabriel, who didst expound to Daniel the heavenly vision, pray for us. St Gabriel, who didst foretell to Zachary the birth and ministry of John the Baptist, pray for us. St Gabriel, who didst announce to Mary the Incarnation of the Divine Word, pray for us. St Raphael, who didst lead Tobias safe through his journey to his home again, pray for us.
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That Thou wouldst vouchsafe to grant peace and security to kings and all Christian princes, We beseech Thee, hear us. That Thou wouldst vouchsafe to give and preserve the fruits of the earth, We beseech Thee, hear us. That Thou wouldst vouchsafe to grant eternal rest to all the faithful departed, We beseech Thee, hear us. Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world, spare us, O Lord. Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world, graciously hear us, O Lord. Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world, have mercy on us. Lord, have mercy, Christ, have mercy. Lord, have mercy.
Our Father, who art in heaven hallowed be Thy Name (in secret) Bless the Lord, all Ye His Angels. Ye that are mighty in strength, that fulfil His commandments, hearkening unto the voice of His words.
Bless the Lord, all Ye His hosts. Ye ministers of His, that do His will. Amen
Plse correction here,hutu killed tutsi
"the goal of a demon is to pull people away from God" like towards Mary rather than Jesus himself? While I appreciate the refocus on Jesus around the 51 minute mark, It seems even the need for the correction in the first place seems to agree that there is a danger in over elevating Mary due to these visions.
There is a risk that Christians can end of worshipping Mary. That is a legitimate concern, however I don't think these apparitions and devotions do this. They are here to give us another tool in our tool box if you'd like. A way to come closer to Christ, by knowing the one who gave birth to Him, His mother.
Satan doesn't led you to Mary rather than Jesus, that just doesn't make any sense...Mary is Jesus' mother, The Immaculata- immaculate and chosen by God.
..To Jesus through Mary.
@@idaclement2994 The Bible tells us that God draws all men to himself, and Jesus reveals the father. putting Mary in that spot is simply idolatry.
@@NerdRahtio I suggest you pray more...I'll pray for you. adieu
Mary always leads to Jesus.
How far down the list is hollow earth?
So Noah Cain and Abel didn't exist ?
45:32’think of the trouble they would be in Hell??? I’m laughing! Fortunately for those demons , it wasn’t them.
how come you never hear about marian apparitions in USA or Canada? Mary seems to not be a fan of north america
There was one in Wisconsin. I think it is approved by the bishop of that diocese too!
Our Lady of the Cape in Québec
Maybe becouse the most of the nord america's christians think that catholics are heretics. And the most of the orthodox's think the same. It is sad and dangerous in present days to have the competitions or wars among christian's branches instead of understandings, supports and felowships.
@@gordanadrmic752 i agree. I think its very american to be at war at that cause whereas I dont care what you believe.
The Apparition of Our Lady of Good Help occurred in Champion, Wisconsin in the mid-1800s. It was approved by the local Bishop in 2010.
I have an issue with the fact that the visionary is endorsing the other "visionaries", who are not authentic. She is disobeying the Bishop, and as far as i'm concerned, that is a red flag. I wont be buying her book.
I don't want to question the suffering of the people of Rwanda, but I find it hard to believe that 8 girls/women spent 3 months in a 12 square feet bathroom. Anyway, very sad and shocking episode Jimmy and Dom! Thanks
I suppose that they weren't there all the time but at critical hours of days when they felt danger from outside.
Yes they were. They could not leave the bathroom for fear of being slaughtered. It was only by the grace of God. I have been to Kibeho and I have studied the apparitions of Kibeho and the Rwandese genocide and I can tell you that it is true.
Kindly buy Imacculee's book: 'Left to tell.' for further information on the subject matter.
In the book, they didn’t really ever leave the bathroom. It was too dangerous. The pastor who sheltered them pushed a large wardrobe in front of the door help hide it. There weren’t 12 women in there the entire time. It filled up over the 3 months.
Read Immaculee Ilibigazias book, Left To Tell.
It is very true. They feared for their lives. The homeowner shielded them at great risk to himself.
"Intimating" Jimmy, not "intimidating".