Is the 2024 Polaris XPEDITION ADV 5 NorthStar Worth The Price?
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- čas přidán 6. 11. 2023
- After some trail time inside the XPEDITION ADV 5 NorthStar, Luke provides his review of this very unique, yet very pricey addition to the Polaris lineup.
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XPEDITION ADV 5 NORTHSTAR
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Starting at $57,569 CA
Starting at $44,999 US
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In concept good idea for those that don’t want a sport SxS but the price is ridiculous for what you’re actually getting.
They pushed the limits on price and that's about it. This does not cost any more to build than a ranger northstar but they want way more to buy it.
Your paying for development and R&D.
@@joshc606 on plastics? Because that is all that is different from any other polaris machine. It didn't cost that much for the Mexicans to form plastics.
Yes, prices are insane
@@joshc606 Nah you're paying for the "manufacturer's defects" and the fact that it's made to roll over. Anything DOT has to pass the moose test
Cool absolutely, however, it's getting into the price range of actual everyday usable vehicles and that's just insane, cost more than a Ford Ranger 4x4, Toyota Tacoma 4X4 or Nissan Frontier 4X4 can be had for LESS than the Polaris’s $44,999 USD with no additional options add some extra options it would go WAY higher. A HARD pass for many it’s just too pricey. You must have a lot of disposable income to buy one of these, & it will just sit there in your garage until you have free time to enjoy it. I say this from the perspective of a Polaris 570 ATV owner. I often use the ATV for work & play on the weekends seeing a lot of off-road products & like-minded people, it is an unrealistically priced product perhaps it’ll be purchased by governments. They sell tons of products to the Government, that's for sure. Built one on the Polaris configuration with only one option came to $56,895 no thanks. The bottom line its a lot of money for a one-trick pony.
In most western states, we can ride our SxS's on the road too.
No interstate. That makes it more useful.
Heavier and more expensive (inflation adjusted) than a Jeep Cherokee Classic too.
You'll get a little better handling with the suspension, but when you're pushing over 3k lbs curb weight, it's not going to handle like a RZR XP 1000 or a similar sport UTV.
Throw in less power, more noise, a fraction of the life, much more uncomfortable, you're still trailering it to the back roads...I've wracked my brain and yet to figure out what the use case and justification is here. I got a new Kawasaki KRX this year for $20k OTD, and it'll absolutely run circles around this lumbering off-road only SUV in every way.
You could get a 4-door Wrangler Rubicon for a better price than this as well.
Yea I don't know who this was made to serve. No one around here would buy this:
1) the performance
2) price
3) looks
4) "luxury"
Is it a convertible? Do the doors/windows/roof come off? Can you get it without a camera/stereo/ac? I guess heat is nice, but man the f#$% up...
The government has zero interest in a vehicle made of plastic with one of the most unreliable drivetrains out there. I'm sure they'd love being stranded in the middle of a combat zone changing a belt
Excellent review bro, your channel has improved so much.
I thought my 2023 Defender Max Limited was expensive at $32k. Wow, now I feel like it was a bargain. For $50k I will pass but it will be interesting to see where this market ultimately goes.
$50k and it leaks water.
I would love to have one of these back in the day when i lived in the woods and had atv’s and utv’s.
Great review thanks guys
Thanks for watching!
Question is, how many recalls will it have, and will Polaris ever step up and provide quality warranty service?
You can buy a base model Jeep new for what they are asking for one in Canada
My thoughts exactly. Or a 3 year old well equipped Jeep.
They probably want some more capable and reliable
Can you guys do a video on the canam 6x6 rancher edition with the cab ect... thanks
Hey ! Good video as always DT Crew, the opening line is me to a "T" I have never been a big Polaris fan but I always loved how they are improving and innovating with new stuff all the time. (along with Can Am) That Expedition is such a nice machine, the interior is nicer than my Tacoma haha I also appreciate how you showed a few flaws (shock adjuster and front windshield) to show you aren't bias. You did forgot to touch on the price (unless I missed that haha) but that's the big thing... and I'm a Huge hater on the price of ALL SXS's not just this one, they have gotten way out of hand for what they are. But people keep buying them.... and they make it easy with long term loans and I dont think people understand interest on loans.....
Also The more I thought about it, the price for someone who owns a business as a guide/hunter, trail tours, even companies who need to get a crew of guys in the back woods to a work location (Powerline, Railway, Oil/gas, surveying) this could be a useful machine, it's just the Everyday trail rider that doesn't have $50,000+ to spend on a off road vehicle is a little out of our budget haha
Always appreciate your comments! I noticed Luke didn't mention the price in the video so I was sure to include it in the description. Yes, this machine is pricey no question there. It's actually more than a 2024 Chevy Blazer RS on our side of the border (yours and mine). The applications you mention are exactly what this thing was designed for.
@@dirttraxtv Ohhh sorry I thought I might have missed it.... it's a nice looking machine, maybe DT needs a new flag ship vehicle ! haha
In your opinion expedition or 1500? Or maybe do a comparison video 🙏🙏🙏. Ya'll are awesome and I really enjoy your content
Thank you so much! I'm going to get Luke to reply to this one as he has thrmost experience on these two machines. Stay tuned...
At this point we need a real car manufacturer like Toyota Ford or Chevy to build a miniature SUV that can blast through the trails
Lexus made a side by side but I think it was just a concept, youtube it, it looks pretty cool.
How big of tires can i get on it without significant sacrifice of handling and speed?
It kinda reminds me of the 1988&89’ Toyota 4Runner with a removable rear cap 🧢
Canam 6x6 defender rancher edition im curious about.
Won`t see me with one. I refuse to even put a roof on my Honda Pioneer 1000-5. I do have a vented windshield though. I`m 60 and considering going back to an ATV where you can still lean in to the curves.
$50k+ is absolutely bonkers
Isn’t it 43k in America? 50k must be Canadian
@@mingomane1 a bone stock 4-door North Star Xpedition *starts* at $45k MSRP.
Dealer fees + sales tax means unless you get a year old model they're itching to get off their floor plan, you're eating $50k+ for OTD pricing without buying a single add-on or accessory for something that can't drive on highways and will cause permanent hearing damage after a few rides, with the mileage longevity that's 1/15th the life of a typical maintained truck
@@cavscout43 LOL, that's a great way of saying "not worth the price!"
Just got a ride in a brand new one. "the one thing" is NOISE. my apple watch send an alert 95DB. you can't talk to the person sitting right next to you. AC was nice considering it was 107 outside (Lake Havasu) also no turbo, 118 HP #notforme
Yeah, I found it really loud inside the cab. The RIDGE is louder, but this unit was loud. The Ranger XD 1500 we have on site now is quite a bit quieter, than our ADV which tells me they're woking on it.
$55k for a highly stressed 1500cc blender and a belt drive. Will be worn out at 10,000 miles
A very neat machine with a matrix priced tag. Definitely cool but one major downfalls (at least here in NH) is the weight. 2400lbs dry and 2600 wet would make this machine illegal to ride on trails in our state by 600lbs. Any OHRV registered vehicle has to weigh under 2000lbs. I laugh at seeing these on showroom floors as much as i do turbo s’s and all of the wide machines (our gates are set to 67inches) Not saying it’s not cool, i just can’t fathom it myself.
They definitely aren't paying attention to the market that much. Like you said you just eliminated 90% of anyone in the north east. And Utah
When is first came out, there have been a couple of people who commented about noise in the cab and how it is incredibly loud and both of your videos didn't mention anything about cab noise. I'm just wondering if you're avoiding the subject or it's not an issue
Don't think Luke was avoiding the subject, he just didnt mention it with so many other things to cover. I personally noticed it was quite loud inside the cab.
@@dirttraxtv Glad y'all responded to this, because for 50k that might be deal breaker for a lot of folks. I wonder how the noise compares to that of a Jeep or Bronco.
I think 150-200hp with a low grunt would be best because people are going to bring people, load up the back and maybe put a roof top tent up top. So it needs more power to get it up a mountain with all that stuff. Plus maybe a camping trailer or an off road teardrop trailer.
The one biggest complaint i had with mine was the engine noise inside the cab. It made the ride unenjoyable.
Hopefully they make an EV version like the Kinetic
Same issue with all Polaris machines. Drove a Slingshot and it was the most annoying racket ever inside.
But is it worth $1000 more than a RAM tradesman?
Why does everyone reply with this type of stuff. Sure your money is better spend on an actual road league vehicle but these machines are made for the trails. You can’t take the tradesmen or jeep for that matter on most utv trails.
@@mingomane1 the point is, pickup has exponentially more engineering, high tech, low tech, versatility etc etc etc. there is no reason to put a price tag higher than something far more capable and versatile.
This has 1/4 of the engineering and cost to develop.
Now you want to bring up fitting on trails, well most sxs's don't fit on ATV trails. But fitting on trails is only a minor advantage and if you wanted to work with land owners and clubs, you could get them widened enough.
Trucks come in off-road models, can be pushed to the limits, as much as any RZR or maverick.
The point is, Polaris is smoking crack. Want a more simple example...
Polaris has been making their flagship touring models the same for well over a decade. The only real change was the passenger seat. Manufacturing costs go down as you sell more. So after 10+ years of using the tooling, this year they raised the prices of the 850 and 1000 by $2500-$4000. It's offensive.
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors I have no idea where the trails are that allow a 5 1/2' wide 3000+ lbs UTV, but not a Jeep. They certainly don't exist out here in the Rockies, it's either single track, 50" width, or highway width.
The 4-door Xpedition is about as long as a Jeep (Cherokee Classic or Wrangler) and narrower/more tippy. So you're going to be concerned about off-camber stuff, but not really turning around any tighter on trails (though a hair easier to pass traffic on the narrow stuff)
It's pretty universal from reviews that it's miserably loud in the cab as well, and no one wants to talk about long term costs of ownership. Off road CVTs aren't a "change the trans fluid every 40-50k miles and you'll get 200k miles out of your transmission" type of scenario. Seeing an older RZR make it to 10k miles is a massive achievement that few people can claim, and they usually have a robust laundry list of everything they had to upgrade and replace to keep it running.
This is entirely catering to geriatric retirees (or wealthy ranch owners) who already have the $100k King Platinum Viagra Ranch Bald Eagle edition dually diesel pulling a 35' semi truck sized RV and then a tandem UTV trailer behind that. And they're going to be a $55k golf cart on gravel roads for 95% of people who can afford to buy them.
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors well when idiots keep buying them yearly, they will keep trying to get more and more for them every year as well until they don't.
what time do you have? Do you look down at a Timex, or a Rolex to tell time? The price doesn't matter, if it does what you need it to do. There has always been inexpensive and expensive choices. The MARKET decides and these will sell. I am like Luke, this SxS FITS the offroad lifestyle that I enjoy.
No reason why this stuff can't be made road legal... damn I'd daily this around the city No problem. Lol
I have a vehicle very similar to this called a Jeep, but it is far less expensive.
For the price tag it only lasting 20,000 miles I'm good😂😂😂
what is top speed?
...if you can drive it on the street as a car - maybe ok- but even for that 50k is insane
But it still doesn't come with stick Stoppers. WHY?
No it's not. It's heavy and overkill, the defender is simpler and still has what you need for 4 season riding. Sealed cab with windows that go down and hvac.
But does the Defender have a Polaris branded OVERLANDING roof top tent and never used traction pads to pair with it?? How will people know you go on cool OVERLANDING XPEDITION adventures without the $10k in accessories strapped on that you never use?
And the Knuckle head's line up!!!!
Really cool. for me, this is one of those "when I win the lottery jackpot" type of purchases. For now, I'll keep my peasant status on my Japanese built ATV, lol.
This vichel parches India which showroom and agency
I have a Chevy tracker. Power windows stereo 5 seater heat ac lol got it for 2000$
This is a pretty large step in performance above a Tracker, but I hear ya...
How is the noise inside?
I feel like it is pretty loud.
i ask the question this is gas machine or electric batterry??
This is a gasser.
Is a new Can Am Maverick XRS worth the price? Is a new Kawi KRX 1000 SE ES worth the price?
Entirely up to the buyer. My budget varies wildly from the man/woman/human beside me.
I’ve had my two seat ADV for 6 weeks now and couldn’t be happier. Your review is bang on except for the windshield leak, mine is fine. And yes, like all rides, more power equals bigger smiles. Keep up the great work!
Thank you and glad you're happy with your machine!
Not interested. Where's the new Segway?
Also they should just flip the rear shock upside down lol
You may as well buy a small SUV and drive it on the road.
The quality lacks, but awesome when they are working. Too expensive though. I own a RZR and a Ranger that get used often and I can’t see a future where I would purchase an Expedition. Probably, wouldn’t even get another Polaris. They need to prioritize quality.
The problem is assurance 1000 cc are over price can not imagine 1500cc
Serious question as someone who knows little about side by sides, why not just buy a cheap 2nd hand 4x4?
Why not buy a horse? Why not buy a car? There' a thousand different things you could buy new or used. It just comes down to what people want. I suspect Kawasaki has something similar to this they're pulling the sheets off in January.
SO a Suzuki xl7 Size basically.. Wonder when Suzuki is going to bring a Jimny to the Canadian market again. haha
I heard that there very loud inside is this true.
They are loud inside
Beautiful machine for camping outback
The people who wanted them got tired of waiting. My delivery was originally sept5 then pushed to feb 25. I changed my order to a ranger 1500
We waited forever for this unit.Are you happy with the 1500?
@@dirttraxtv lol. Supposed to be here in February.
I want one so bad, lol.
The heated cab is really nice to have this time of year in Ontario 😆
Your lifestyle is gonna be working 7/12s for about a couple of years to pay for that sucker
I want ev with solar panels all round.. ev for hunting, silence ...and must be able to trickle charge from solar when i am fishing or skinning my hunt or while i wait in a hide to get my shot ..
"does 1 inch really makes that much difference?" bro, had me cracking there
Does it have power steering?
Yes.
@@dirttraxtv very nice I’ll buy it lol
These machines are extremely dangerous in snow or slippery conditions as the font diff in AWD doesn't stay engaged during engine braking. So the rear tires slow down to hold back the vehicle and cause it so slide out of control.
I'm not a Polaris fan at all. It's a cool machine no question but 50k . Wow not gonna happen here
Honestly, just go buy a jeep!
I’ve heard they have a lot of engine noise
True. Pretty loud in the cab.
If your not after absolute speed, why not just buy a 5 or so year old jeep? Slow it down and enjoy nature. The jeep can haul more camp gear and still give ac and heat. Some of these sxs are just about as wide.
no electric windows ?
Yeah, they're electric I'm pretty sure.
It’s cool . I can see to get the fam out and not be covered in dust and comf. Just tad pricey for me .
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Before watching - no. Still a cool
Vehicle.
Haters be hating, yet they still watching instead of moving on LoL. That said, I know its not a machine for me. At that price I'd be too worried about tipping it over or scratching it up/beating out a window with a stiff branch if I slid into a tree on a tight slippery trail. But some people will buy it and thinks its the best thing since sliced bread. The more choice we have makes for a better sport for all of us.
We ordered our xpedtion back in June. We finally picked it up this weekend.Had to drive over 6 hours for it, ( no other dealers on the east coast had the color or 5 seater northstar we wanted)
to answer some questions;
is this a stupid purchase? well yes, what adult toy hobby isn't?
will you be riding it enough to justify this purchase? yes and no....some years we will ride 10-15 times a year for long miles, some years much less because life just gets busy with full time jobs and kids.
Like with any machine we have had (which is quiet a few..) there will always be manufacturer flaws as well as personal dislikes. For newly released machines I always take out the manufacturers warranty, because things have happened in the past where we were very happy that we took the warranty out. Now we just cant wait to actually put it to the test.
THIS is exactly why Manufacturers charge so much.
"I don't care, I'll pay anything to have one" mentality.
This really started with my generation (born in 1960).
My grandparents wouldn't have EVER spent this kind of $$ on a "Toy", no matter how wealthy they were.
And every generation is getting worse and worse.
Absolutely ZERO thought of Cost vs Value...
At that price buy a Suzuki Jimny from Mexico and upgrade suspension
Should be 150hp minimum..... especially when loaded down for a camping/hunting trip...
Absolutely.
I mean it’s not a side by side anymore, it’s like a damn car now hahahaah
This is one fine piece of equipment…
Start using Polaris.😂
I'll take a jeep for that price
Nice machine, but for something with that price and such poor build quality, I'm surprised they sell them. Maybe it's just me, but there's no way I'd pay more than double than what it's actually worth !
Looks like a natural winter rig if snow tracks are installed.
I realize you like it, but did you actually answer the question if it’s worth the money?
We are asking you if you think it's worth the money based on what we have presented. We are interested in your opinion, which is why we asked.
Me personally I don’t think it’s worth the money. I would like to know if you guys think it’s worth the money after spending that time with it I love the concept but man that’s expensive.
@@scottcope3085Yeah, we have mixed opinions around the office. Actually just filmed a follow up to this video that focuses on pricing. Got pretty heated. Look forward to showing it.
Can’t wait!
Alot of people expect way too much from these machines to begin with,im sure if you avoided burying it ito the gills in mud and water holes it will last you just fine and in that event it's worth the price, everything is getting more expensive,my new high country Chevy is 110,000$
Man cool vehicle, love your reviews, but how are people going to afford another mortgage payment? If you include 6-7% interest, it will amount close to that. School loan, mortgage, car payment, and now this? Ouch! Are lenders going to even be hesitant the loan the doe. We saw what happened in the car industry, a version of The Peoples car (Volkswagen) will hit the SxS market and take it by storm. History repeats itself because we forget it.
I remember when this was first announced and everyone would say, "for that price I'd buy a Jeep and I can drive on the street". Well the argument for that is Jeeps are slow. Out here in the West we call then "Trail Snails" because if you get stuck behind them, you have to wait for a place to pass and that seems to take forever.
That's a fair argument for sport UTVs, but the North Star 4-door is....2,900lbs per Polaris. On pretty middle ground 2" body shocks. I'm sure you can take the trails faster with the Xpedition, but you're not exactly going to be lapping the crawling Jeeps
@cavscout43 I think you'd still be able to lap a Jeep. A friend of mine has one on 37's, with a Teraflex lift, good shocks, and it is so harsh of a ride. You really can't go that fast. I detailed it on my channel if you'd like to see it.
That shift drift more than a chinese car 😵
Seems at the price that they charge they would see the muffler near the shock issue, seems like common sense. Polaris pushes innovation, but why have they been in business for this long and not listen to what everyone talks about and push quality and attention to detail? So many stupid quirky things that could easily be fixed with a better design.
Buy a used first or second gen raptor for that price. Beat the living hell out of it and still be able to sell it.
You're not wrong.
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I’ll just buy me a truck at that price
A GMC Canyon Denali is the same price.
Worth the price? No. Live up to the hype? No. Seriously for the price buy a Jeep or a Bronco. Every one at my dealer that has sold has come back for ac that doesn’t work well, window motors and switches that burn up, constantly fighting air/dust leaks. These are very poorly built especially at their price point. Buy a general and a good cab kit, you’ll be ahead
Kinda looks like a h2 hummer to me. Probably get one of them for about 6k to 8k.😂
Why to hight won’t be comfortable driving
Are they street legal?
Noooooooo
Yes, it is awesome, but I don't understand why these are so expensive, on-road vehicles like Jeeps and Broncos are the same price and are road legal have way more refined interiors, better warranties, more R&D and safety equipment and electronics, so where is the money? Another issue is that these are so large that they are primarily going to be used on large manicured trails, basically roads, these trail systems are off limits to Jeeps and Broncos type vehicles, so the large vehicles don't rip up the trail, but these are blurring the lines a lot. Just another over priced toy from the manufacturer that used to be a good value. Polaris has forgotten about the people that bought their products and built their brand, now just cater to the rich. This is a nice machine, but too expensive, lacks refinement for that price. (ask yourself if you spent that much on a new road vehicle and the interior was build so cheep)
Import a Suzuki Jimny, upgrade it and pocket $30k. Then enjoy that you can take it anywhere you want as a licensed vehicle.
Is it street legal?
No.
I like their videos but the introductions are always so annoying you always have to skip forward 2 minutes to get them going...
Appreciate you watching though...🤷♂
Oh boo hoo. Karen’s always gotta complain! “Have to skip 2 min”…. If that’s all you got to worry about in life while enjoying FREE content you have nothing to complain about my friend!
I bought a brand new Ram 2500 for less than the price of this sxs. Lol
At 40k maybe not 60k ridiculous
$50k lol.. They're laughing all the way to the bank
This would be hard to swallow at 20 grand - 50+ is just out of the question. Then you add a leaky windshield, I'll PASS!
Let’s be honest, the price of everything is high. But 30k+ for a non highway vehicle? The people that own and buy this stuff are not middle class people, this is 6figure income people. These are things that most people will never be able to afford
Polaris will be a truck manufacturer next,.. wish they'd build a nice soft tail minibike😅
That'd be sweet.
Just think of how cool you’ll look while hauling one to the deer lease on a trailer 😆 Total waste of $$$
I bought a Polaris ranger NorthStar ultimate I had them put in signal lights and a power lift box that was in 2022 . Polaris pushed their limits and mine for the last time period. The am fm radio is worthless you have to be next to the station to get any reception . Iam going with a new pickup for my next side by side.
Without even watching the video I can tell you absolutely no sxs is worth 50 grand especially when it still has a CVT transmission. If you're gonna drop that much on an off-road rig might as well get a Rubicon, it'll last 10 times longer. Average Polaris life span is 10,000 to 15,000 miles for 50 grand. People are insane for buying these. My defender max limited has the same suspension, and fully sealed cab, and i paid 25,000 less for it than this costs, and even that was hard to justify for a freakin sxs
until you put your money down on this unit, then i might listen. however, i doubt it.
When you are ask more than the price of a normal truck. You have to check yourself. 😂 Nope. Cool though.