Another great video. That is exactly why I bought the 24 Defender limited is because it fits what I use it for. Hunting and property work . It is also a fun machine to trail ride but probably not to the extreme. Keep the vids coming.
These 2 machines were the decision I was working on a few weeks ago. Defender Lonestar Limited or Xpedition ADV5 NorthStar. I ended up going with the Xpedition and absolutely love it, but I dont think there is a wrong answer here - both are incredibly comfortable and capable trail limos.
I have a 4 door 2023 Defender with the XMR package. It has the Smart Lock which is fantastic, and it also has an additional rocker switch for Trail/Mud modes. This changes how/when the diffs lock, basically telling the machine whether it's on a slippery surface rather than a hard surface. This leads to a total of 8 different combinations of 1, 2, 3, and 4 wheel drive depending on what you're doing. The versatility the Defender offers in its 4x4 modes is simply unmatched.
first little hill I notice you can hear the Polaris transmission whine while coasting down and it seems like the exhaust is louder on the Polaris as well....not sure though.
Im 6'4" tall. Which one has the most leg room? I dont really off road...mostly use to run down to our pool and toe a small Jon boat to the lake in our subdivision.
My dad is 6 foot four and he fits in either of them fine I think between these two it really just comes down to style of writing and your purpose of use. In your reference of use I’d get the defender
@@bjterrell8356 xpedtion has one of the best crawling gears I’ve ever used. You can creep like no other. The clutching is so good if you could clear it, you could add 35s and not have any issue.
When you were comparing flex at the first of the video and talked about the double spring ( which works very well) you were nowhere near the same place and looks as tho you were trying to promote the Polaris
Beautiful, but I love my 21 Defender XMR. Front and rear lockers and 15 inch clearance. Looks like you are driving a limo through the bush…that is a road and large farm vehicle.
@@americandream_89 true but it makes the defender soooo much better trail riding. I've noticed that the body roll isn't as bad as I thought with them off
I bought my 23 HD10 defender 2 days before the 24's were announced. NOT smart (loc). Have you done any kind of......."it feels like it might tip over" vs "it did tip over" on some uneven ground. I basically hate mine for the "it feels like it is about to tip over". I might tie a rope around the window pillar and my John Deere tractor and see just what its gonna take to tip it over. Not a fun feeling on the rough stuff not knowing where that point is. Travel is nothing as advertised. My guess is you got 2 inches up and 2 inches down and then you lift a tire or two tires and it's a roller coaster ride after that. Anyone who can't afford to go to the fair, just go for a ride in a defender in the back country, you get a ride that you'll need clean undershorts afterwards. I had stiff frame, no suspension go cart as a kid with a 2.5 briggs on it. That go cart had more flex than my can am. Wondering if shock therapy has a fix for this?
@@grantparnes I’ve had mine in several places people had to hold on the opposite side. When you feel like it’s going to tip it probably is. They are very top heavy and like you said they have no suspension travel. Adding a plus one wheel and 32s makes a big difference. But it will widen your turning radius. The defender is a great machine but wasn’t intended for hardcore trails.
@@americandream_89 Thanks for the feedback. I am one of those guys you heard about who bought a new 2023 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon off the dealer lot in 2024 for 22K off sticker. Put a teraflex lift and some 37 inch milestars on and now my can am kinda sits. In fact I have had the can am 11 months and it has less than 300 miles on it. I do not know how they get away with saying the can am has 9 inches of travel (or whatever than number is in the advertisement) and it clearly is not even close to half that. I suppose it could with no sway bars, but that is not how its sold.
Geo could’ve did the whole course…… this wasn’t a hard-core off-road showcasing my point was to showcase suspension flex and ride. Hopefully you’re able to see that.
4:21 unfair comparison, you didn't go at the same angle, with the polaris you were right up to the stone and with the defender almost a full vehicle away... with the defender you went more at 90 degrees to the water and even passed the part where the drop towards the water steeper...make a pass along exactly the same tracks..
@@americandream_89 I have tons of experience, and point I’m making is upgraded suspension and tube bumpers on 4Runner kills these 50k rides and your in 30
@@lanceevans4053 We ride with people all the time doing the scenario you’re trying to reference. It takes a ton of money and a complete build and then your still way slower going through the woods than an expedition or any side-by-side.
Another great video. That is exactly why I bought the 24 Defender limited is because it fits what I use it for. Hunting and property work . It is also a fun machine to trail ride but probably not to the extreme. Keep the vids coming.
Appreciate the feedback buddy. The defender is a great machine.
Thank you for this video!!! Sounds like i need to wait til they enhance both
Glad you liked it. I’d be surprised if they enhanced either of these in the next 2 years from a trail stand point.
These 2 machines were the decision I was working on a few weeks ago. Defender Lonestar Limited or Xpedition ADV5 NorthStar. I ended up going with the Xpedition and absolutely love it, but I dont think there is a wrong answer here - both are incredibly comfortable and capable trail limos.
Very true. You made the right decision
Agree. Both are amazing machines. Can’t really go wrong with either one.
Expect a canam will outlast a poolaris
Great comparison, Incredible Property. Thank-you!
Thanks
Appreciate it.
I have a 4 door 2023 Defender with the XMR package. It has the Smart Lock which is fantastic, and it also has an additional rocker switch for Trail/Mud modes. This changes how/when the diffs lock, basically telling the machine whether it's on a slippery surface rather than a hard surface.
This leads to a total of 8 different combinations of 1, 2, 3, and 4 wheel drive depending on what you're doing.
The versatility the Defender offers in its 4x4 modes is simply unmatched.
I can’t believe they still offer Visco lock 🙃 they would have so many more customers without it.
I sell Can Am and this is very well said!!
Great video!! What wheels do you have on the xpedition? I know you have said in the past videos. Thanks!!
Thanks buddy
Wheels are like this, but in the xpedition version
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Thank you I will check it out!@@americandream_89
Hello. The expedition did it have the comfort clutch update just wondering. Nice video
It’s stock clutching. I currently do not plan to do the comfort clutch as I like the power delivery it has stock.
Thank you
first little hill I notice you can hear the Polaris transmission whine while coasting down and it seems like the exhaust is louder on the Polaris as well....not sure though.
The Polaris is louder in every possible way lol
The Defender is a Pasture Princess!
Did the Polaris have the quieter clutch kit in it? Do you have any experience with an xpedition with the clutch kit, thanks
The Polaris has original clutch kit. The update from Polaris helps with cab noise so it would be a tad quieter.
The Defender looks like a tour bus 😮
Im 6'4" tall. Which one has the most leg room? I dont really off road...mostly use to run down to our pool and toe a small Jon boat to the lake in our subdivision.
My dad is 6 foot four and he fits in either of them fine I think between these two it really just comes down to style of writing and your purpose of use. In your reference of use I’d get the defender
I have a 23 lone star, with visco lock. Just wondering if there’s a locker kit available?
Several companies make lockers for the front, but you also have the ability to add smart lock to yours
Would like to see how the gearing / clutching compare between the 2 machine
Woods riding the xpedtion has way better gearing. Road riding I prefer the defender
What about very slow crawling
@@bjterrell8356 xpedtion has one of the best crawling gears I’ve ever used. You can creep like no other. The clutching is so good if you could clear it, you could add 35s and not have any issue.
Oh wow that’s a major switch for Polaris that’s good to know that they finally built one you don’t have to put a gr to run 35s
Polaris for the win hands down.
Do you have resr sway shocks on in this video?
Yes
Which one do you like better
Xpedtion by a long shot for what I do
Smart lockers suck if your doing hard core stuff..You want to be able to have the front locked up before the obstacle not when you're on it..
Where did you get the rack in the bed of your defender?
From Can-am
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Thank You.
The Polaris has larger tires on it from the factory here? Or am I imagining things?
I installed the 32s on the Polaris
When you were comparing flex at the first of the video and talked about the double spring ( which works very well) you were nowhere near the same place and looks as tho you were trying to promote the Polaris
I guess the whole video is a bust 🙄
Wonder if the 2025 Defender will catch up to the Polaris?
I hope they come out with a xpedition competitor. It’s going to be tough to beat though. All someone needs to do is develop a trailing arm version
And how would you compare a ranger XP Northstar to the defender limited which would be more of a fair comparison.
I’ve got a ton of those comparisons on here, at least 6 videos
One thing about the defender is the turning radius is awful. My ranger on 35s takes half of the turning radius as the defender on stock tires.
The 23 and above do have a big turning radius
I’d like to drive both with identical setups back to back
Beautiful, but I love my 21 Defender XMR. Front and rear lockers and 15 inch clearance. Looks like you are driving a limo through the bush…that is a road and large farm vehicle.
The XMR is a sweet machine, id like to see a limited XMR
The defender gets much better on trails without the sway bars
That’s true but then you lose highway stability in the limited as they are top heavy
@@americandream_89 true but it makes the defender soooo much better trail riding. I've noticed that the body roll isn't as bad as I thought with them off
Wonder about removable sway bars for defender?@@redriderno22
I bought my 23 HD10 defender 2 days before the 24's were announced. NOT smart (loc). Have you done any kind of......."it feels like it might tip over" vs "it did tip over" on some uneven ground. I basically hate mine for the "it feels like it is about to tip over". I might tie a rope around the window pillar and my John Deere tractor and see just what its gonna take to tip it over. Not a fun feeling on the rough stuff not knowing where that point is. Travel is nothing as advertised. My guess is you got 2 inches up and 2 inches down and then you lift a tire or two tires and it's a roller coaster ride after that. Anyone who can't afford to go to the fair, just go for a ride in a defender in the back country, you get a ride that you'll need clean undershorts afterwards. I had stiff frame, no suspension go cart as a kid with a 2.5 briggs on it. That go cart had more flex than my can am. Wondering if shock therapy has a fix for this?
@@grantparnes I’ve had mine in several places people had to hold on the opposite side. When you feel like it’s going to tip it probably is. They are very top heavy and like you said they have no suspension travel. Adding a plus one wheel and 32s makes a big difference. But it will widen your turning radius. The defender is a great machine but wasn’t intended for hardcore trails.
@@americandream_89 Thanks for the feedback. I am one of those guys you heard about who bought a new 2023 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon off the dealer lot in 2024 for 22K off sticker. Put a teraflex lift and some 37 inch milestars on and now my can am kinda sits. In fact I have had the can am 11 months and it has less than 300 miles on it. I do not know how they get away with saying the can am has 9 inches of travel (or whatever than number is in the advertisement) and it clearly is not even close to half that. I suppose it could with no sway bars, but that is not how its sold.
These things have become plastic Jeep Rubicons!
Pretty much
A geo metro could go through the first obstacle what the heck
Geo could’ve did the whole course…… this wasn’t a hard-core off-road showcasing my point was to showcase suspension flex and ride. Hopefully you’re able to see that.
You must own the dealership
That’s my dream
I wouldn’t trade my KRX for both of them.
Well considering both are worth $75000 and a krx sells for 17000 I’m not sure your thinking clearly
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4:21 unfair comparison, you didn't go at the same angle, with the polaris you were right up to the stone and with the defender almost a full vehicle away... with the defender you went more at 90 degrees to the water and even passed the part where the drop towards the water steeper...make a pass along exactly the same tracks..
😂 okay if you say so
I guess you own a defender
Cheaper and better idea to buy a 4Runner
A 4Runner rides 10x rougher than these
@@americandream_89 your crazy
@@lanceevans4053 you obviously have no clue about Off Road riding
@@americandream_89 I have tons of experience, and point I’m making is upgraded suspension and tube bumpers on 4Runner kills these 50k rides and your in 30
@@lanceevans4053 We ride with people all the time doing the scenario you’re trying to reference. It takes a ton of money and a complete build and then your still way slower going through the woods than an expedition or any side-by-side.
This is where Polaris is better. My ranger is locked up when in 4wd. My buddies canam maverick. Those wheels just a spin. And he paid more 😂😂
Agreed Polaris has a great front differential. The 24 defender is much better now though compared to previous versions.
I'd rather buy a Jeep
They have less flex than both
This is a dumb argument. You can’t go through trails at anything other than a slow crawl. Most trails out there don’t allow jeeps anyway.
not impressed at all everywhere you went my lawnmower will go if your scared to really test the machine go ahead and paint rainbow's on them
🤣 tell me how you really feel?
😂😂😂 tell me you missed the point of the video without telling me