What if Brexit leads to a Civil war? Scotland and N. Ireland fight for independence
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This video explores the politics behind the Brexit vote per UK regions and goes in-depth about a hypothetical civil war that might develop. Just what sort of forces might the whole Scotland and select N. Ireland's insurgents count on? What sort of forces might England send? How might it all end?
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British soldiers in Scotland :
"Yes general?"
"Execute order 66"
English Soldiers in Scotland execute order 66. They would get butt fucked on CNN
@@andrewhall2678 Any soldiers in the Army would be under hard surveillance and they're all loyal to the crown
@@andrewhall2678 nah there simply wouldn’t be enough of them
"Yes your majesty"
"Execute order 66"
@Biggest Natural Muscle I don’t like the people in the royal family, but the concept of a sovereign is obviously good
Holy shit these comments are absolutely insane - you lads all realize we’re all still currently part of the same country?
not for long
M. P. Ahaha fair play
🇬🇧🏴
England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, are all different countries dude.
🏴 🏴 🏴 🇮🇪
Oh no, not a civil war in Ireland over whether or not to be a part of the UK. Can you imagine what that would be like?
The result entirely depends on how much britain cares to keep Ireland.
*Cries in Isle of Man*
For a proper Brexit civil war hypothetical, next you need to do the city-state of London vs. The UK.
City-state of London needs the food trucks and trains to stay relevant. Cut off the supply, wait for the implosion, clean up the rest.
@@wthomas8383 True, but London could start off with a strong hand in that they would immediately capture the seat of Government, the Treasury, the Monarch etc. They'd probably want to use this leverage or take advantage of the immediate confusion to extend their territory and annex Kent, or at least take a corridor of Kent all the way to Dover so that they could get resupplied by their European allies via the port and Channel Tunnel.
The city-state of London would be a vassal or puppet state of the EU, so they wouldn't be going it totally alone for very long, although in the anarchy with the Met's resources stretched from being a de facto army, London would probably devolve into warring factions on the streets, especially when resources become scarce.
@@JGA5150 Well you do make a good point about confusion. Without a stable hierarchy of command a unified independent London would have the initial advantage. The main issue would be getting control of the Thames in order to secure some sort of port for supply reinforcements in the event of a drawn-out affair. Although the argument could also be made that in the event of a rogue capital, the military could just take control/military bases could operate on their own authority. I'm not entirely sure of the exact distance from London to Dover but the average length of time by car journey could be approximated to somewhere between 1-3 hours (based off the distance from London to Southampton). The London government could annex several surrounding areas but would then be tasked with holding it with a (police force?) small paramilitary unit. All the Army (or Royal Navy in the case of port capture) would need to do is prevent outside EU influence from artificially propagating London, use the Army to quarantine the expanded London to its extended size, and take back the individual counties all the way back to Westminster Palace.
Then again in this sandbox scenario it's impossible to predict what sort of politics might influence what lol. Don't think the EU/France would send a military invasion force to support one side or the other, but it could definitely use economic blackmail to compel either side (be it London or England) to act a certain way. But even in THAT case punishing England could risk escalating tensions with the US, without even mentioning the rest of the Commonwealth.
I guess it just depends on who wants what and what each side is willing to do/sacrifice.
London would devolve into a giant turf war between gangs of various nationalities. The Lib dems and Labour would probably end up fighting each other as well. The Europeans and liberals who voted remain would flee to safety on the European mainland.
Would be a very short war. the Thames would be blockaded by the Navy. and all the air ports and train lines would be bombed by the RAF. Londons economy and food supply would be strangled. They'd surrender long before troops entered the city.
Calculating the economies in Euros instead of GDP or USD, that's the most direct way you could possibly trigger Brits here.
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when people complain after binkov says literally this is unrealistic and would never happen.
this man is like 95% hypothetical wars and shit. calm down. also, binkov should do a chile vs argentina tbh
to change from the matter. Your name and your profil picture really make me think... do you always have a plan and are you a memer? *run away*
If this was about another American civil war, there would've been a mass shooting by now.
One of his first videos was Belgium vs. The Netherlands. People in the comments are taking this channel _way_ too seriously.
@@MrB-bl3bf Yes, maybe but on this side of "the pond" we really can't be bothered. Two sugars for you wasn't it ?
Stfu
What the fuck is wrong with this comment section. You all pretend like Binkov actually wants this war to happen. He is just showing us how such a scenario would look like and how it would end. So stop crying.
Why are people complaining about the unrealistic nature of the video, the guy has literally made a video about millennium falcon vs fighter jet
Ikr? Its just a fun vid he put together.
It might be a bit of a stretch assuming the Scottish Regiments would automatically supporr the Scottish Nationalists. They are after all volunteers to the British Army in the first place and its hard to imagine that most of them are anti unionist. Even in a worse case scenario I doubt more than half of the Scottish Regiments would support the Nationalists.
I doubt the numbers would be that high. I am pro indy and I think this video is silly and the 'Braveheart style' comments are lunacy (and to be frank embarrassing). All that would happen if Scotland declared UDI and war, is the soldiers in Scottish bases would stay loyal to the British Army and it would be a slaughter when armed forces come up against unarmed civilians.
No Scotland couldn't launch / build / drop any nukes. No the masses would not 'rise up', picking up non existent guns to resist the 'English oppressors'.
No, the world would not care enough to do anything about it.
@FTS Some people take it a bit too seriously. I was merely trying to point out to them that reality is quite different from fantasy. If you think that is embarrassing then that is up to you.
@@ptonpc I feel like the mountains might be the only thing the Scots have
USA vs USSR in 1991? (No nuclear weapons or ally interference) Everyone would love this.
AlphaRex567 it’s just a bigger advantage for US.
He already did a multi-part NATO vs. Warsaw Pact 1989 series. IMO that was some of his best work.
Hahahaha. Made me laugh.
In 1991 the USSR was in shambles, a 60-80’s would be better
People complaining that the scenario isn't realistic should probably remember that non of binkovs scenarios are realistic they are just for fun.
Some are pretty realistic, based on current events
USMC vs Roman Legion?
@@uegvdczuVF I said some others are obviously for shits and giggles
Love how people keep saying "total crap" or "totally deluded" and all that kinda stuff, in the first few words of the video Binkov says its "unrealistic"! We have the cream of youtube stupidity in this comments section folks.
And this is why humanity is dying....
@@goldrooster7754 Cut your unnecessary negativity humanity isn't dying you fool
@@loldiamond1017 No, I don't think i will.
@@goldrooster7754 ok chill out with overreacting humanity is doing just fine.
its an unrealistic scenario but he should try to look at it realistically right? Even in our fictional worlds we want some level of consistency applied. He should have at least tried to answer "where the hell are civie scots getting arms from to take on the military?"
If this happens we really are going back to 700 AD We are a sea faring nation.... we all work together 🏴🏴🏴
YOU MISSED ONE FLAG.
Not sure if NI flags even on emoji’s
@Flying goat Yourda dude stop your attempt to try to do a one up to prove your second hand ego for england already it’s embarrassing. The fact that the SNP are the majority party in Scotland and are pushing for a second independence referendum through their policy (which may be successful) doesn’t change because you can go “Scotland will collapse spontaneously without England!” and “Culloden happened! That was about the SNP and Scottish independence right?”. It’s pathetic and irrelevant and it’s obvious you’re only arguing it because you want a nationalistic last laugh for England other than actually caring for anything about the union
@FTS @Flying goat yourda good talk guys, not saying which side I'm on but yea, proper argument
No, we need to secede no matter what. We’ll be better off if we gain independence. It’ll save us from the backward British state and we will move forward, not towards the past.
Fuck that lads lets just all go for a pint
People take this videos too seriously...
"handguns and hunting rifles"? Not many handguns. They've been illegal in the UK since the late 1990s. Only the police and military have them legally.
Northern ireland would have a good few
I can’t help but feel a major miscalculation made in this video is the assumption that all (or even most) Scots serving in the British Army would defect to the Scottish Nationalist cause.
I can assure you that the vast majority of Scots serving in the British army are fervently pro-union. Therefore I find any infighting within bases in Scotland extremely unlikely.
Furthermore, just as Pro-independence civilians would organise into makeshift military units to blockade British army bases. You can expect an equal effort made by Pro-Union civilians to disrupt their opponents.
I feel both points make the British Army’s situation in Scotland during the early stages of such a conflict much more safe than suggested in the video.
you forgot the loch monster aka godzilla on scotish side
Lol
Deprive the British from good scotch. They will surrender too
Hey ali, are you pakistani?
@@muchentuchen6592 nah... Ali is from Turdistan
@@kingcolz where is that?
The thing to bear in mind here is that the population of Scotland and Wales combined is smaller than the population of London alone, England has nearly 57 million people so it is not a fair comparison.
Spain: stares to Gibraltar
And can keep staring...they saw what happened to Argentina in the Falklands when they tried to force their will on Falkland islanders who didnt want to be controlled by the Argentines....same with Gibraltans...
Ermm which side would I fight for ? Mother Scottish and a English father ?? Grew up between England and Scotland and northern Ireland .. because I'm British ..
And this is the key point. We are one people now.
Your bloodline is probs a bit too impure for the SNP laddie
Binkov make a hypothetical British Empire vs Empire of Japan
@The Nova renaissance they wouldnt, Japan did well during ww2 because Britain was preoccupied with Germany in Europe and Africa.
Thing about Japan in ww2 is they were still not nearly as industrialised as Europe not America.
Much of their ships for example were built on foreign ports.
So while they could build up their army while at peace, once at war they couldn't replace it. They should have stayed neural at least another 20 years.
who keeps deleting my fucking replies
FUCKOFF
@The Nova renaissance the thing is though it wasnt always the one sided japanese beating that everyone likes to make out have you ever heard of the chindits and the battles of imphal and kohima well the japanese suffered one of their largest land defeats to the british in south east asia if the british were able to deploy the armies they had sent to europe into asia then the japanese might not have been so successful in my opinion
@The Nova renaissance not really?
Britain kicked China's ass too. China did not have modern armament, they were an easy target.
Japan did so well due to the world powers being focused on Europe. Britain could replace it's militarily, Japan couldn't.
After a year Britain would have the advantage.
The royal forces all belong to her majesty so all of the regiments based in NI and Scotland would stay loyal to her majesty. Long story short wouldn't happen.
Until the SRA wipe them out
Have you ever met a unionist soldier... I have met many they all fight for queen and country.
@@Yorkshire_Celt and every true Scot will fight for freedom. Best of luck to both sides I suppose
Past is the past the world is faster and smaller now we need to stay together.
@@Yorkshire_Celt it's difficult to try and understand eachothers point of view as we come From different walks of life. Should there ever be a battle I do wish you luck friend you have a warriors spirit
As a Scotsman, and supporter of independence, I'd love to say "We'd send them hame again". However, even in this hypothetical situation, you're discussing Scots, English, Welsh, and Norn Irish in the same BASE rising up against one another. Utterly impossible.
Scots are different...we've voted so. But we've spent the past 400 years as a united country. The vast majority of Scots have ancestry elsewhere in the UK, and a lot of the others have ancestry in Scotland. As a whole we think, and vote differently, but even those of us who support independence don't want it to be antagonistic. We love our brethern, and hate them in equal measure (especially when it comes to sport).
If Scotland left peacefully, and a Westminster government (probably the Tories) decided to re-invade Scotland, I have absolutely no doubt, that all those men and women would refuse to fight. They would be fighting against the man who had their back in Fallujah. They'd be fighting against the woman they trained to be a pilot with. They'd be fighting against the person that helped them swim through a jungle river in Belize.
It simply wouldn't happen.
I agree almost 100% with you Chris except, you mention Fallujah - British soldiers should never have been there. White Phosphorus was used against women and children, admitted by the US. Britain has a history of 300 years, the crowns were merged 100 years earlier but there was no Britain yet. Scotland's history goes back 1100 years
If the UK goverment did this it would be a bigger crisis than Suez by far. (Pro-indy Scotsman here)
Not to mention many officers in Scottish regiments are English & vice versa.. I’d refuse to fight being English born of Scottish heritage.
I unfortunately do see our nations splitting in the next 50 years such a shame knowing we dominated the world 100 years ago as a union but if we can’t see eye to eye on issues anymore so be it.
Most Scots are unionists and most members of the armed forces, be they Scots or not, are also unionists. The idea of Hector and Morag organising a square go with the Royal Regiment of Scotland is laughable.
I agree man.
Alan Mac I know I served with jock regiments and they fucking hate the SNP
Most of Scots were unionist before Bexit referendum but I don't think after the referendum.
Roble Yusuf opinion polls disagree with u
@@MrTangolizard They were before Brexit vote not today. What holds Britain togather is an economy not nationalism
Video starts at 1:45
Braveheart II: Brexit Boogaloo.
Big brit igloo
I live in scotland but i see myself as a brit who lives in the region scotland. Because england, scotland, wales and Northern Ireland are all devolved nations - not countries.
That is why the EU will be the UK masters, we have forgotten the pain and suffering of our forefathers. We have lost our Christian compassion for each of us.
Mxcrft Aa I feel the exact same being welsh. United we are stronger.
It may surprise you to know that the majority of Scottish regiment personnel are commonwealth troops (Fiji, Samoa, etc).
Russia: *casually drops ship containers of AKs to scots*
Nepal vs The US, Europe, Russia, and China combined.
sickle slash To unbalanced, Nepal would instantly kill China and Russia, then as fast as light Europe is dead, then say goodbye to America
🇳🇵... Jai Maa Kali ... Ayo Gorkhali
What people need to remember is that the Scottish and English people do not hate each other. You wont go to Scotland and be heckled for be an Englishman and vice versa. Rather the Scottish people hate the English government, which is fine cos we do too. People seem to confuse it that the two people despise each other but its simply not true, we love the Scots.
@@jayjay8970 Im sorry to hear that man some people can be very horrible. Personally i go Scotland quite a lot to visit family and i've never had the same issue. I hope it hasnt changed your view of Scotland
@@jayjay8970 Sorry for that mate, probably some SNP nut job or something, 3 of my pals at school are English and they've never had any problems when going up north. It's mainly Northerners up north of the highlands who want independence because they have no idea what happens in the central belt and the borders where most of the population is.
@@jayjay8970 They probably refused you fuel because you are a LIAR and a FANTASIST. Stop spreading ANTI-SCOTTISH Propaganda!
You have a major flaw in your analysis. Scotland and Northern Ireland have no army. There are many British military bases in Scotland , including nuclear submarine that they will not give up to separatist “states”. Ever.
Lol civil meen s civilians not the army dumby
"Scotland and Northern Ireland have no army". England has no army. Wales has no army. The British have an army.
@Kyle Pettigrew Scottish soldiers in the British Army are not going to fight for a separatist Scotland. Nothing about this is realistic.
You completely neglected England reinforcing & resupplying its bases by sea. C'mon! Scottish insurgents would have no means to interdict sea routes.
"And throngs of civillians with makeshift weapons"
Binkov knows Scotland well
Buckfast bottles lmao
As with all wars the country with the stronger economy wins eventually. The Scottish are great fighters but England has the money, the population and all the military hardware so England would win the ‘conventional war’ and it would slip into counter insurgency that would be slowly degraded by the English Army Units and MI6. It would be a messy affair but would bare no resemblance to Vietnam or Afghan as England understands Scottish culture and the motivation to fight would be there as it is so close to home. Over time the rebellion would slip into history and eventually you’d probably see the resettling of English families up into Scotland, first into the neutralised cities and then into each area as they become pacified. Over generations Scotland would be gradually forgotten and it would all just be known as England.
Also factoring in the discord from people who are mixed which will mess stuff up.
They said that back in 1745 we are still here
That's bullshit. Anyone who is a proud Scot would never stop fighting. I'd die before I gave up sovereignty to a southern establishment. You can guarantee there would be a guerilla war lasting decades, no one would forget what the English did during their invasions. Ireland basically had this exact scenario and you still have peace walls and riots every weekend. Do you seriously think the Scottish population would just forget about an armed English invasion into the country?
"... for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."
Pretty good!
@@hiddenknowledge2012 utter shite. Scotland is not that capable, let’s be realistic, the only reason the Irish succeeded is because britain didn’t care enough and didn’t see enough value from the area. The same is not true for Scotland.
Most scottish soldiers would be loyal to the Crown and Britain. This is also true about most Scottish people.
Nonsense. Scotland would only dissolve the union if they already had a majority in Westminster and/or Holyrood.
Bloody hell, this comment section is stupid on all ends.
Firstly, if England and Scotland went to war, there is absolutely no doubt that England would win. You're comparing a country with a population of 55 million against a country with a population of 5 million. Add the fact that guns, ammunition, and other weapons of war would be very hard to come by for the general public, which would be where Scotland's main strength would come from, as the Scottish military is tiny in comparison to the English military. and you've got yourself a clear victor. This is coming from someone who has lived in Scotland for most their life and is therefore unbiased.
Secondly, to the people saying Scotland couldn't function as its own country, it most likely could. Scotland has massive oil reserves (an estimated 90% of all UK oil is under Scottish jurisdiction. Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Scotland%27s_oil), which would put it in the eyes of many countries as a trade partner, I imagine the USA in particular. Plus, the Scotch whisky industry already earns Scotland 5.5 billion a year with statistics that suggest it is ever growing (Scotch whisky's contribution to the UK economy had grown by 10% from 2016-2019. Source: www.insider.co.uk/news/whisky-worth-55-billion-year-14970271). With a small population of 5 million and a high likelihood an independent Scotland would re-join the EU, Scotland could see itself as a fairly successful tiny nation.
Thirdly, to that one idiot in the comments who said America would side with Scotland because it hates England, that's not the case at all. Whilst the American and English population may not get along greatly, the American and English government are on extremely good terms. So good that there are even US military bases stationed in England. The USA would remain completely neutral in the situation.
Goddamn, people, it's a hypothetical situation. Calm down.
Like the guy said it is almost improbable it would end in civil war
I have full respect to this comment
It's not just "scotland independent based 100 wholesome 100" or "england so great will conquer entire world" you go on both sides , listing sources in some parts
Yet when Binkov did China invades Taiwan everyone said China would lose. Hmmm
The thing is backlash would happen against the British killing and invading Scotland territory possibly causing an outside war it’s like the Vietnam war your at war with people in their own country who don’t have all the tanks an jets but they have weapons and know their way around but they get backlash for going in and killing and bombing them as civilian casualties would happen aswell
Binkov: British, british,british
Me: English, english, English
DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS BINKOV
Why do you automatically assume all Scottish servicemen aren't unionists?
@Anglo Commando I agree with you. In N Ireland no Republican would join the UK Armed Forces and Scots servicemen in the armed forces would be at least union neutral. Again, the more nationalist Scots wouldn't even join the UK Army in the first place.
What Binkov seems to be ignorant about is that although there is much sectarianism in Scotland, squaddies from both factions swear an oath to serve HM The Queen.
So he can actually have military forces to compare instead of throwing up his felt hands and comparing the entire UK Military to a partisan movement that he has zero clue how to actually figure. Also, because of the ease of getting armaments in the UK (read: not very) means that whatever partisans would be highly limited in what they could do. By having the Scottish units join the Scottish separatists, he at least has a military force to compare.
Also bare in mind, alot of Scots are pro Union so many of the Scottish military personnel would probably for against Scottish independence forces
It would be the 45 rising all over again
@Pete is never wrong tourism money
Most Scots are anti-Union now and more than 70% would want independence if they knew that it'd get rid of socioeconomic problems in Scotland.
And bare in mind that England itself would experience revolution and civil war in the midst of all this.
Tbh, I dont think people care enough. As a Brit, everyone is sick of Brexit. Nobody really cares anymore, everyone has just accepted it and wants it done with. Getting the Brits annoyed enough about something to lead to a civil war would be difficult 😂😂
Exactly, the UK will leave the EU and Scotland will remain in the UK.
@phil mill The voters are the reason the SNP are in power. It's not about what the SNP wants, it's about what the people want and the people are fucking sick of the Westminster establishment and the belittlement of the country by tory scum and labour traitors.
Would never happen happen, England would invade with an army with rugby balls, we'd have a game, followed by a fight then get pissed together and forget the whole thing.
Yeah but the other side don't talk right. All this time y'all live just a few hours apart and everybody still speaks all strange and different. Us americans could go over and help teach everybody how to speak proper American. Then no more problem. And on your rugby 🏉 you guys don't even do your football 🏈 right (and no I'm not talking soccer ⚽ ). In football you supposed to put on a bunch of girlie helmets and pads and then throw the ball to another girlie man who runs 🏃 straight to the sidelines every single time to avoid taking a hit. 😂
Yep but he is russian so he will not understand that . I love the scots, i just wich jc would shut up about scotland scotland scotland
England have the shittest rugby team a bunch of children and Scotland would have Wales on its side
@@welsh_Witch Why do you hate us so much
@@jason-gf8dg We know history, that's why. Most brutal state in human history.
Never underestimate the fighting spirit of a Scotsman
Underestimating correctly now :P
Fighting spirit counts for shite when you're fighting main battle tanks with sticks and stones
@AyeNaeBother your 100% correct
Never underestimate the fighting spirit of a Englishman
@@TheOrginalBallBrother you got me there
This is literally the opposite of what's actually happening. Angry Loyalists are talking of putting out the call to arms Scottish unionists will flock to their banners.
From a Welsh perspective, a few points I would make about how Wales would respond to this hypothetical scenario.
Some Welsh volunteers would join the Scottish side as the Welsh nationalist party, Plaid Cymru, has some support, including some very hardcore support in some parts of north and west Wales. However, the numbers would be small. I would say a few hundred at most. They would almost entirely be untrained and of uncertain ability.
There are also however large numbers of English people living in Wales, especially in the south and east and along the border. Some of these would sign up as volunteers for the UK army, along with Welsh unionist volunteers. I would say volunteers for the "UK" side would considerably outnumber the volunteers for the Scottish side, perhaps by a factor of about 5 to 1.
In terms of Welsh independence, support for the notion lies around 15% at present. Initially, the vast majority of Welsh opinion would support the UK, or at least condemn the armed rebellions.
If the hypothetical "war" takes an especially brutal turn, such as through civilian deaths, sympathy for the Scots and latent anti-English sentiment amongst some sections of the Welsh population might change opinions. Wales like England split almost down the middle in the Brexit referendum, so those views would serve to colour opinions on the Scottish rebellion to some extent. Those who supported Remain in the referendum would face a choice over whether to passively or actively support a pro-EU rebellion, or the UK.
Although armed unrest would be highly unlikely, anti-war protests and potentially strikes would likely break out unless the UK achieved a swift and total victory, as a long guerrilla campaign would be unpopular. This would have a minimal practical effect as the Welsh economy is a small percentage of UK GDP, but would embarrass the UK government and hold propaganda value to the rebels, as well as damage the reputation of the UK government.
An independent nationalist rebellion in Wales cannot entirely be ruled out. Such a rebellion would be very small and certain to fail but would divert UK resources from the other rebellions.
In terms of the Welsh government, it would support the UK side to a greater or lesser degree, depending on the party of government. Wales has basically three parties capable of forming a government. In practice, most governments are coalitions in which the Labour Party is normally the dominant power. The Labour Party has led every government in Wales since the formation of the assembly. It would likely lead the government during this hypothetical war too. It would be supportive of the unionist cause, but would favour diplomatic means. It would possibly have significant differences with the UK government, led most likely by the Conservative Party.
The likely outcome would be that Wales would be in practice largely neutral during the conflict, emerging as a diplomatic channel for both sides. The reality is that civil war is so fundamentally opposed to British nature that it wouldn't happen, but if it did, Wales would largely stay out of the fighting, and would lead efforts to bring about peace between the sides.
I think, even though you have not modelled the reaction of the Republic of Ireland, EU and the rest of NATO too much, in reality a British civil war would very quickly become a matter of concern for a huge variety of powers. The EU and the Republic of Ireland would actively interfere, as would the US (what stance they would take depends on who is in power in the US), and many Commonwealth and G20 nations would also have interests at stake, be they business investments or political interests.
Honestly, who knows what the outcome would be. The long term outcome, in my opinion, would be determined by how brutal the UK response would be. If the UK response would be restrained, there would be little support for the rebels, either domestically or internationally, but if not, then there would likely be sympathy for them and outside powers would see it as an excuse to intervene.
The welsh independence movement is pro EU but Wales voted to leave the EU
@@BlackTeethMedia Wales voted to leave the EU by a very narrow margin, around 52-48, the same margin as the UK as a whole and narrower than in England. Note also that the vote skewed heavily towards older voters. In the extremely unlikely event this scenario ever broke out, we would be looking at a population somewhat removed from that at the referendum, so predicting what the population in Wales would support in this scenario cannot be looked at solely through the prism of the referendum. You correctly point out that the Welsh nationalist movement is pro-EU or favoured remaining in the EU, but this describes most young people in Wales, whether they support unionist parties or Plaid Cymru.
Actually small welsh nationalist groups already rebelled with guerilla war tactics in wales when meibion glyndwr, mudiad amddyffin cymru and other welsh nationalist groups bombed english pipelines and government offices and burned down english houses in wales. It wasnt as extreme as the ira in northern ireland but they did cause lots of damage they even demanded millions from the british government for the aberfan families after the mining disaster that killed lots of children. Most welsh people dont know about this because they dont teach welsh history in schools.
11% of people want to leave the uk, 89% of welsh people want to stay in the uk
Latest polls as of today put welsh independence on 35% which has jumped up from 24% two months ago. The independence movement is gaining ground and fast. Independence is inevitable. 🏴
This is the worst comment section I think i've ever seen
Can't wait for the Irish to come
Lol
@@blaeiptekvkukurbo or even better. France vs. UK
i guess he didnt hear about the hacking of nord vpn
Oneil theriot he only heard about the trees
It is fixed now and the company that fucked up is removed from the partners list. So should be as safe as any other VPN to use.
Wouldn't last longer than 24hrs, England cuts off Scotlands supply of Buckfast Tonic wine, Boris Johnson accepts wee Jimmy Krankie's surrender !
I’m English and this Scottish-English rivalary is so one-sided. Me and most people I know don’t give one fuck about Scotland (in a negative way). They’re just another country within the UK. Every Scotsman I’ve ever met has been sound as fuck and i’ve never had a problem.
Of course during sporting events, we all like to pretend we care about the Scottish.
Yes, I can understand that. The English always cry a lot when they lose to Wales in Rugby.
John Smythe Thankfully I couldn’t care less about Rugby. Just Football, we’re not great at that, but still the best in the UK!
I don't really watch Binkov videos, I only read the comment sections to enjoy the butthurt of whoever happens to get their feelings slighted by whatever scenario he happens to be presenting. Keep it up!
Same here.
It is hypotectical-so far!
@@jasonmussett2129 Nobody has ever let that stand between them and a good butthurt.
Poland vs ukraine
Chile vs bolivia
Spain vs italy
Mexico vs cuba
israel vs iran land war
Bolivia vs Chile? Bolivia’s Air Force barely exists. They don’t even have any active fighter jets. Their main combat jet would be the Chinese Made Hongdu K-8 trainer. 6 of those against 46 F-16s.
In terms of numbers Chile’s 50,000 is pretty close to Bolivia’s 45,000. But Chile has around 300 MBTs and 600 IFVs while Bolivia has less than 100 light tanks and about 200 IFVs.
Most likely everyone on the left would win except for Spain that one is a bit more complicated
If it gets too bad, the Queen herself will lead an army to quell her rebellious subjects.
Mate she is 96 she wouldn't
@@welsh_Witch Really!? And here I thought she was a 900 year old immortal vampire.
In the real world , the referendum and recent elections have settled the issue. It is clear a majority of Scots support Union.
If SNP won an election with more than half of voters, there would be a case for a new referendum.
In addition serving Scots in the armed forces too support Union.
latest poll by ipsos mori shows 63 percent of scots want a 2nd referendum within 5 years
www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/majority-scots-want-indyref2-next-five-years-poll-finds-2866714
And Northern Ireland is probably going to want a referendum sometime soon. And because of the GFA, London can’t stop it.
Sinn Fein and SDLP actually beat the DUP (and UUP) in the 2019 election.
Furthermore a poll conducted in January shows SUPPORT for independence at 52%.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/news/politics/scottish-independence/latest-poll-shows-support-scottish-independence-52-1395231%3famp
And the most recent poll backs this up with independence at 52 percent
www.thenational.scot/news/18499959.support-independence-surges-dominic-cummings-scandal/
And that isn't to mention the irish victory in the 6 counties of ulster where there is now a majority of irish nationalists for the first time since partition. The days of this union are well and truly numbered.
How the heck could n Ireland be independent, we get 4 times more from the government than we take in tax,and some of our politicians are corrupt
**smears blue paint on face**
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"gets hung drawn and Quartered"IIIIITTTTTT HUUUUUURRRRRTTTTSSSSS
*smears blue paint on face, cries "freeeeeedome"..breaks out in an allergic reaction, starts crying, goes to NHS emergency department *
MrB Hey! Im not a millennial lol
007 jb Scottish lad, Scottish...
007 jb Ill have a pack of cigarettes, Pringles and some skittles please. Throw in a beer too. Thank you! Come again!
NordVPN just announced they've been hacked for almost a year Binkov. You might want to stop getting sponsored by them.
I immediately clicked this video after the exit poll results. The almighty algorithm is sending us a message...
what poll?
@@doomerbloomer6160 we had a poll for politicians and the scots Irish and welsh dditn get their way
England tried to invade Scotland in the late 13th century. The subsequent wars lasted a generation, but ended in English defeat- despite England's far larger population and greater resources. While the initial pitched battles would be pretty one-sided, England actually holding Scotland in the long term would be practically impossible.
That’s in the 13th century you absolute melon please don’t say you genuinely believe England wouldn’t be able to beat Scotland in a war....
That was then, this is now
Also technically Scotland has no army so good luck with your "Liberated Scotland" idea
England is not even a real country anymore, first they would have to get devolution, And their own government like Scotland did, then start an independence canpaign And win it. May be a struggle to convince 50 million people you are better off without having water and food lol. Build an army and then you can talk about war with Scotland in the EU we will probably just send you home to think again lol
Scotland is also British. Should say English vs Scottish.
But then Welsh soldiers would be ignored
its the british military which includes scots and northern irish soldiers (and even the irish guards)
Scottish not british
Man, and I thought we americans get upset. You guys are much more sensitve than I expected.
War with Scotland would never happen as most of the Scottish in the forces and police are very pro union
Are they?
This may be true for the military, but Police Scotland answers to ScotGov... which is run by Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP.
@@SkiddyGaming technically they answer to the monarch, the same as all other police.
@@uptoon8096 technically not, actually. All police in the UK answer to an elected executive in practice (usually the UK Government, but in the case of Police Scotland it is ScotGov). While you would be correct in saying that technically all police in England and Wales take an oath and pledge allegiance to the Queen, this is not true for officers of Police Scotland. Scottish Police, while they do take an oath of office, do not swear an oath of allegiance to the Monarch as in England and Wales. Responsibility for Police Scotland lies with Scottish Cabinet Secretary for Justice Humza Yousaf (SNP), and the Scottish Government (led by SNP FM Nicola Sturgeon) more broadly.
Why don’t the Scottish just highland charge?
No highlander charges with broadswords and targes?This video is no good.
Do a US civil war
Is THAT what you want?
@@DanielBrown-sn9op balkanization gang
Haha snow flakes vs a flamethrower.......
@@oroville12345 Your name is the most snowflakey and butthurt name that I've seen
@@jimtroy4380 Thanks Slim Jim.
Is this Braveheart 2020 remake?
I dont care about scotland..all i want is the good old cornwall
To beach your dinghy on?
If the UK split up then it wouldn't be British it would be English forces.
Also you forgot about the unionist in NI if your going to include the IRA.
The Isle of Man literally did nothing.
GeorgiaBall hahaha
True to history.
I can't see the Scots Guards shooting each other based on who was English and who was Scottish.
If Scotland declared a civil war they wouldn’t stand a chance lmao.
0:44 Nord vpn got hacked for 6 months in Norway and they told no one when they found out till this week. You muppet 😢😢😢😃😂
You forgot to mention Scotland elite soldier
The demoman
If he were a bad demoman he wouldn't be here discussing it with yaw , now would he ?
Oooooo they're gunta ahv ta gloo you baak togethar.... IN HELL
The Scotish Elite? Yep, the Scotish elite anything.
There's a small military base at Ballater in the cairngorms. It's usually got the queen's guard when she's visiting but the rest of the year there is a small, permanent army presence.
Can someone please explain to me why Britian wants to keep Northern Ireland? It costs them more annually to keep then if they just let it go.
Because most of the population choose to remain British
@@stonedbrit780 yes but as far as I am aware, Britian doesn't want them
@@Sam-cn5yd Countries aren't just economic zones, where subdivisions are accepted in based on their economies.
Sam what you are aware of is wrong. The overwhelming majority of UK is happy with N.I in the union
Sam I think it would be the exact same question as why the US keep states who receive more tax dollars than they give back
1 in 10 of the Scottish population was born in England.
This is less likely than England V Canada.
julian shepherd he literally said as soon as the video started that this is unrealistic
Another possibility that seems more likely would be the military vs the British public who have had enough and want to overthrow the government for their failure in doing their job.
So Leavers vs remainers, and the military/police.
@PlayerSince90s Yep, still a interesting idea.
There are a lot of loyalist in scotland, around 50% of the population are loyal to the uk
This...isn't a news channel, it's a theory channel, so he's establishing some points and taking them as true for the logic game.
I hardly think it's 50% maybe 30% as if you give everyone a choice only the hardcore unionists would support scotland being invaded
@@AlbaHistory 70% vs englands 100%
@@T0M_X 70% Pro scottish independence vs 100% English plus Ireland would side with scotland and Wales would aswell
@@AlbaHistory of the entire british army, scots make up 6%
Not many handguns in Scotland, let alone assault rifles. Where would arms of that kind be acquired in number?
I feel like the Scottish govt isn't particularly military minded.
ye it's not the be honest, as a scot while this situation is obviously one of fiction and will never happen. id imagine that should an election be held in Scotland and the UK denied democracy then at best there would be civil unrest and at worst some sort of militia forming. the only thing I would say is that if a situation like this actually developed then Scotland would probably have a lot of support internationally.
@@bigshaq712 Yeah I can't really see there being any major militia movement in Scotland. Certainly not on the level of the IRA, or at least not in the short term.
Government policy counts more on international support than on raw force. I don't think that that is particularly sustainable personally, but what do you expect from a bunch of lawyers cum politicians raised in the late to post cold war climate of peace for peace's sake.
Honestly from most of the binkov vids I've seen he seems to make a number of standard assumptions without really researching the people, laws and lay of the land in his zone of focus so a lot of his analyses are very dilute at best and complete fantasy at worst.
But we have to remember that on the west side and the north of Scotland there is a lot of hunters that have dovetail shotguns and rifles. If it came to it I think the government would call them to bring the weapons to help against the fight and from what I have seen they are very good with these basic weapons.
If this happened (I am a citizen of the UK, so I know it will not) The english will win EVENTUALLY but scottish guerrila fighters will do alot of damage to the English. there are lots of hills and forests up here which scots know well, meaning that Scots could do enough damage to seriously demoralize the Anglo-Welsh. It would be kinda like Vietnam, but without jungles.
Comrade Stalin same with the Irish in ulster
@@conorflynn6666 Agreed!
@@zilo2322 and there could be welsh fighting alongside the English as well, making it Anglo-Welsh, thicko.
It's much more complicated Binkov, you basically just threw this together for clicks.
@Larry Rudedude Allies and non-belligerants are not modeled, he says this all the time.
@Larry Rudedude That's not even what I'm talking about, I'm talking about within the UK, it's not just Scotland vs England. It's English vs English, Scottish vs Scottish etc, neighbor against neighbor. You may have voted leave but your next door neighbor may have voted remain.
Larry Rudedude Germany couldn’t do shit 😂😂😂 nor could france
@@DeusSalis Why don't you make a better video. If you where to go into the depth of lefty vs righty it wouldn't be much of a fight in England or Scotland.
whoever said Germany and France couldn't do shit is so wrong
I feel like there would be barely any fighting
Despite what many politicians and people on Twitter tell you English Welsh Scottish and Irish people all have very similar cultures , life style and hold respect and comradeship with each other , most professional armies would probably just refuse to fight their friends
Correct.
My uncle was alive during the troubles..... there's a good reason why we hate the tans so much. About 900 years and 6 counties worth of reasons. Some of the wounds are still fresh.
If it actually came to this, both sides would get confused when Protestants and Catholics noticed they were fighting on the same side...and everyone would walk away, minds blown
The Catholics vs Protestants thing seems to be just an UK or Europe thing. Here in US never had that problem that I'm aware. Perfect harmony. but we were more Protestant in our founding.
@@billbyrd1361 Oh we've had that problem alright. The Maryland colonial government - originally set up by and for Catholics - was overthrown in 1689. Anti-Catholicism was a major factor behind the 19th century nativist Know-Nothing movement opposing mostly Catholic immigration from Ireland and Italy. The KKK was also active against Catholics. In fact, I would argue that most anti-Catholic sentiments only finally faded away when the majority of American immigrants started having brown skin in the second half of the 20th century. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Catholicism_in_the_United_States
@@ashevillecat That is very surprising to hear. First I heard of this.
@@ashevillecat Also the american revolution the colonials hated the freedoms they game to canadian quebec frenchmen. It was one of the causes of the revolution
Very unrealistic the brits wont stand a chance since the scots will have demoman tf2.
Britain:we are losing in Scotland quick resurrect Margaret Thatcher
Thatcher was a nut job
Scotland would definitely lose tbh
I Hope Scotland and North Ireland can conquer their indipendence democratically
@Rad Derry then they're doing a shite job of things, since we draw a block grant of about 30 billion from the UK- that's half the size of our GDP.
Imagining that the state would hold onto a territory they would have to invade, subjugate, and justify at international meetings (not least of which with Ireland right there, making a fuss about it) is ridiculous.
They would lose money, influence, time, resources, and good will, things they can't well afford to lose.
North ireland? I didn't know dundalk was looking independence lol
What people tend to forget is that Scotland doesn't have an army. There are huge numbers of Scottish people in the British army who are very loyal to the union. If Scotland did leave the scots in the British military would still remain in the British military not a new found Scottish one.
Exactly, I seriously doubt a Scottish solder in the British Army would, even for a moment, consider fighting for Scotland itself. The same for the police. If it came down to violence, there would be a lot of blood on the streets. Almost all of it would be unarmed civilians. (Note I am a supporter of a progressive outward looking independent Scotland but I don't believe in Braveheart style fantasies).
When I lived in California, I had to explain this to some Californian Independence folks. "No the Marines, Navy, Army and Air Force in California are not all Californians and they are loyal to the federal government. The National Guard are the only troops under the Governor, and most of them are also loyal to the Fed."
Sadly their are morons that, think this way in every state.
The unionist people in NI are all loyal to the U.K. they are also the ones with the military training and in the Police. NI also has a notable number of Army reserves. All pro union
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
more people voted to remain part of the UK in 2014 than vote for the SNP that's a fact
Referendums are just the same as Elections to those who don't know facts, facepalm.
@@scottishbombolini7794 referendums are votes on the subject there held on!! are you saying Scottish people where confused with the question stay part of the UK or leave??? where have I heard that before? oh wait 🤣🤣🤣🤣 go away with your national pish elsewhere stupid
@@scottishbombolini7794 And all the votes for the SNP came in an election dummy 🤣🤣🤣🤣 FACEPALM
@@markbrown351 You have went from looking a Fanny, to proving you are Indeed a Fanny.
@@scottishbombolini7794 explain the difference dipshit I can't wait for this 🤔🤔🤔🤔
I'm confused how scotland has any military in this at all considering it's the queens military and run by parliament in london. Scotland it self has no military. If anything scotland leaves and all british troops leave their bases and return to what is then the UK, leaving scotland with some empty unmanned bases and no personnel or equipment to put in them...
The only private army in the UK is in Scotland, the Athol Highlanders.
Ireland never replaced the British army with its own either, to this day the Irish airspace is monitored by the RAF.
Because actual scots in the military likely wouldn't be up for occupying their own country. Those that did would be ostracized once they returned home when the battle's over.
Usually only 60% of a population votes, last Scottish ref only 47% of that voted to leave. In Westminster elections, the SNP still receive a small number of votes, the Westminster system is very beneficial for the SNP cos they take all the seats anyway.
What Im saying is, the soldiers would only be hated by a minority of Scots. Most Scottish soldiers defending the status quo would have a majority of support.
It's amazing he didn't even bother with a Welsh resistance.
Because there wouldn’t be any 😂
Whats wales gonna use sheep
@FTS in your dreams ... sorry
@FTS okay then clock is 3.10
Welsh voted for Brexit so it would probably be England+Wales vs Scotland+Northern Ireland.
The Queen of England is also the Queen of Scotland. All British troops are loyal to the monarch.
most
Not the Army. It's not Royal.
@@user-do5zk6jh1k
Yes, regiments within the army are royal.
The royal tank regiment etc etc
I’m English, and I think if the Scots want independence they should have it. I don’t think it will end in their favour, and they’ll be much worse off as a result of it, but they should be allowed it.
James Hartley you realise that Scotland produces the majority of wealth by way of natural resources out of all the nations of the U.K., we'll be doing grand after independence don't worry.
Straight White British Protestant and you! Scotland voted marginally to stay in the UK under the promise of guaranteed EU citizenship, that's been taken away and now we're the only country who isn't getting the brexit deal we want, England and Wales voted leave and they're leaving, N.I voted remain but are being allowed to negotiate their own terms but Scotland has gotten nothing, no respect, no consideration, and now we're being ignored by a government and prime minister who have made no secret of their contempt for us.
So tell me how that makes us equals with England? And give me one good reason why I shouldn't consider any and all unionists to be scum, below vermin!! Support for independence is now in the majority, we didn't vote for this Union, we've bled against it and now all that will pay off, like it or not, independence is upon us.
ThePictishMan 26 no you wont, your still a defecit nation and btw saying you sell large portions of natural resources isnt a flex thats what third world economies do whereas first world economies are services based, anyways i doubt you know what a defecit nation is so here it is you dont earn enough money to oay for all your services so you receive subsidies from the rest of the Uk, without them subsidies you lose the NHS, you lose free schooling, you lose free prescriptions, and anyway you understand your main resource is oil which if you didnt know is run and owned by english companies, not to mention the UK has found oil in the falklands far more than there ever was in sxottish territory.
Bradders - 1) no we don’t receive subsidies from England, we are perfectly capable of paying for our own services (hence why Scotland has free prescriptions, free advanced education and free healthcare, only one of which England has.)
2) the only “debt” Scotland has is the money we pay into the UK, of which only half is returned and the other is spent on England “on Scotland’s behalf” and then it’s attributed as “Scotland’s share of the debt”
3) oil isn’t our only resource, we have great hydroelectric potential, wind power and timber to name but a few, and we mustn’t forget that without Scotland, much of England would be dying of thirst, fortunately for you England is allowed to take Scottish water (which is free in Scotland by the way, so you pay us nothing for it) and then through water-meters England makes money off our water, none of which is ever returned to Scotland.
Taking those three things into account, tell me again how Scotland will be worse off after independence?
6:58 No Mr. Binkov. The Army is officially as of Nov. 2019 for Regular services is under 74,000, and Reserves element under 30,000. The Army is heavily undermanned in all corps. Not sure where you got those statistics from.
Brilliant just started going through your vids great work love it ✊👍