How can GLONASS (GPS) satellites be disabled?
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What would it take for GPS system to be disabled? Why interceptions with missiles and energy weapons aren't a viable option? How might interceptions by other vehicles in orbit be performed? Finally, how might finances and sanctions impact demanding projects like satellite navigation constellations?
00:00 Intro
02:18 Anti-sat missiles
05:50 Anti-sat satellites?
09:44 Laser and jamming
12:07 Technology & industry woes
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I wonder if any current electromagnetic railguns could achieve a sat-kill altitude?
Or any of the centrifugal launch platforms in development?
shame you did not start with pics of Satellite blowing up in space 3 days ago . [ warning ] ... low earth orbit will be dead
...now back to your version
The biggest problem to striking at GLONASS, is that in a tit for tat that ensues, we'd get Kesslered... and nobody wants that.
It's yet another M.A.D.
@@Slavic_Goblin ... Shame part of plan
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@@Slavic_Goblin MAd ...lol ..see you in hell Stefan Bandara
Russian satellite breaks up in space, forcing ISS astronauts to shelter in capsules: great timing.
that reference to Not What You Think KILLED me lmao
They did that in the past, fucked up the upper atmosphere as well as taking out 1/3rd of active sats at the time. There's a space nuclear test ban treaty now.
The way to take down Glonass is to launch RF reflectors and park them in front of the Russian satellites. They maneuver around, we maneuver back in front. They run out of fuel, and that's that. We leverage our vastly superior launch capability to keep sending up dumb reflectors. The best thing about it is that it is easily reversible and doesn't clutter up space with debris.
Amateur radio people have demonstrated that Starlink can be used as a GPS system. Good luck taking all those down.
The method you propose doesn't interact physically with the satellite, so the operator cannot say somebody tampered with their equipment. But if you have the ability to position and maneuver in close vicinity of a satellite then a cheaper method would be just wrapping the satellite with Al on polyamide foil and be done with it. Sure, the engines could blow some holes but the solar panels and antenna array would become useless. You need only one satellite with multiple "charges" and ion thrusters. Heck, maybe they'll use it to test a VASIMR prototype. Another method, non-contact this time, but still destructive, would be to use masers in orbit, close proximity, to overload and disable electronics. Last, would be to just jam the frequencies used in communications. Again, from orbit, but that would require just a satellite in the relative vicinity, a km or so, of the positioning system satellite. That sat could also do some spoofing on demand if equipped accordingly and we have enough reverse engineering on GLONASS.
lmao your "not what you think" reference was pretty awesome 😅 the self awareness of how similar it sounds to the original is pretty hilarious
As I understand it; most people think of anti- satellite weapons in the wrong way.
Striking the satellites with a projectile or burning it with a beam is NOT necessary.
It only takes a small amount of force applied to a satellite to send it tumbling off into space.
Sure satellites have fuel onboard to make positioning and station keeping adjustments; but the amount that is carried is very limited; with most older satellites having little fuel left.
So all that's needed in many cases is just a gentle, steady push over a period of time to send satellites spinning out of control.
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a russian satellite literally exploded as you put out this video endangering astronauts
Is there a reason you are showing a US boat when talking about the Russian Kazan? Starting right after the NordVPN ad. Weight until the US Flag flying on the stern shows up if you don't recognize it from the sail / SEAL decompression chambers.
Wait* not weight
My Garmin wearables use Glonas. It sucks so bad I could care less if all the satellites get blown up lol
Garmin devices can support multiple Global Navigation Satellite Systems (GNSS), including GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, QZSS, BeiDou, and IRNSS (NavIC). Some newer Garmin watches have an "All Systems" setting that allows users to connect to multiple GNSS systems at once. Just wanted to share this in case someone reads you comment and doesn’t know that and instantly assumes bad about garmins. I 100% would be a skeleton in the woods if it wasn’t for Garmin wearables saving me more than once😊.
You'll care about the debris if it happens enough times
@@Irregular503 yeah that’s what they told me on the phone. The watch is 6 months old and every exchange they send is worse in some way. I’m excited about replacing the watch soon with wahoo.
Couldn't care less. Could care less would mean that you do care.
@@MrWezzell thanks for pointing out something worthless Mr Weasel lol
The US and any country with any little bit of responsible thinking would be extremely reluctant to attack satellites with missiles.
The debris field would take out other satellites and those debris fields would take out the rest. It would be a cascading disaster that would destroy everything in the orbit and lower orbits as the stuff eventually started to fall down.
Constellations like Starlink are basically invulnerable to normal ASAT missiles becasue launching them is much cheaper than shooting them down. You would need to launch multiple interceptors with one launch on one orbital plane. But dispersing them around the whole orbit would take time and so it begin to be a game of who have more fuel for maneuvering.
And Starlink's array could probably be used as crude positioning system and global real-time radar recoinnassance, just with software update. In a hot war this might be what will be done.
I don’t think Russians would be bothered, nor would they care about the danger to orbital traffic
@@looinrims They wouldn't be bothered with what?
"Its not what you think". I see what you did there
I swear I thought the thumbnail was of a satellite dropping cigarettes onto Russian warships. Haha.
When you have more to lose than your enemy that can fight back you are bound to lose the fight
Your explanation of satellite lifetimes is not correct. Orbital decay depends on altitude - the higher, the lower the atmospheric drag. At 400km an orbit will decay in 10 years; at 700 km in 100 years, and at 900 km in 1,000 years. I haven’t calculated the decay time for a satnav orbit, but it’s likely many millions of years. The reasons for limited satnav lifetimes are component failure and limited fuel for stationkeeping.
Low earth orbit satellites can potentially be disabled by long term heating from ground based directed energy weapons. But navigation satellites and other objects in higher orbits would need strikes from space based energy weapon platforms or kinetic ASAT weapons. Kinetic weapons create a lot of debris and energy based weapons would be preferred to reduce the mess.
Just create their own MIT Moscow institute of technology that will catch them up in no time
We all have seen multiple instances where Russian military personnel and aircraft have been using GPS over there GLONASS and it don’t take a dummy to figure out why that is🤣🤣 if I was a betting man I’d put my money on two things. 1- it’s just more reliable and more accurate. 2- since both sides are jamming the living shit out of anything electronic if they use the enemies way of things there’s a better chance those things are not being jammed and can be used with less interference. But if I had to chose just one it would be the first opinion and that’s most likely the biggest reason. Keep in mind I know fuck all about jamming and electronic warfare so I’m talking from what little information I do know about the topic🤨🤨
A plot point I love from Ace Combat 7 is both sides think they'll be clever and wipe out the other side's satellites which creates a debris field that just nukes global telecommunications and cripples everyone.
Yes. Are you sure that people are not willing to trade that? Let's say a regional largely land power that doesn't have any real global commitments? Who is dependent on high bandwidth always available satcom to run their global military?
One topic not discussed is launching rockets filled with tungsten/lead/steel balls into your enemy's constellation orbit, in the opposite direction. One metric ton of cargo would equate to 100,000 10-gram objects. Instead of launching in the direction of earth's rotation, launch against it, producing high velocity impacts with other objects (navigation satellites) in that orbit. Impacts would produce more debris. While the effect wouldn't be instant, satellite destruction would continue for a few years until the metal balls fell out of orbit, so even if the enemy had additional satellites ready to launch, they'd meet the same fate as existing ones. Of course the enemy could do the same thing to your constellation, so this would only be a winning play for Russia or China (in that the US has more to lose if all navigation satellites are destroyed).
100k objects isn't even that much, sattelite would just climb into 5km higher orbit if needed.
That creates more hazards for other objects such as commercial satellites and even the ISS. A unitary kinetic intercept is already producing way too much debris. A space claymore mine would multiply the hazard. Energy weapons are a better path.
@@stupidburp As noted, energy weapons are impractical against nav satellites due to their high orbits. Mass release of small objects in collision orbits would be inexpensive and require no new technology. Most of the hazard would be confined to objects in that orbit. Note that they wouldn't have to be dispersed with any kind of large explosion, just sort of "dispensed". The reverse orbit provides the destructive energy.
@@grekiki 100,000 is just a per-ton (tonne) number. Russians have rockets that can lift 6.5 tons to geostationary orbit. Of course that's going WITH the earth's rotation, so the payload might be halved...but of course multiple launches are possible.
That would fuck everyone on earth and would basically be a terrorist attack. It would eliminate everything in that orbit and beyond.
Multiple small lasers can be used like a large single laser...
"Plays imperial March"
GLONASS will go down on it's own. That will happen before we want to do something about it.
You're speaking like Ukrainian
Space Force!
Please make a video about the current state from US and China Navies. Maybe talk about the navy of others countries in the south china sea area and the us and china shipbuilding capabilities
Looking has they regularly use consumer grade GPS clients, I don''t think Russian armed forces would miss GLONASS that much...
Lol at glonas being jammed by the occupiers themselves when they try jam GPS. genius work.
Lol for spelling the subject wrong.
Fall into the sea, GLONASS, fall into the sea.
This video did not show up in my recomendations, despite me having the bell thinghy turned on. Not something that I seee happening very often.
Nothing on the L3-Harris CCS?
I am happy with my bunking plushie ❤ even tho I overpaid lmao still I been a binkov fan since your early days
In low atmosphere lasers are more feasible. Less scatter and the satellites are in an environment where any heat they receive they can't easily cool. Remember air cooking is no longer a thing in space
Do we know how intense glonass is used? Russian and Ukranian fighters have all be photographed with Garmin units in the cockpit. Garmin is a commercial US company making systems that work with American GPS. No surprise since Glonass is reliable up to 20 meters, while GPS is up to 5 meters reliable.
Most of Garmins products sold, here in Europe at least, are GPS and Glonass ready.
Garmin even recommends using both simultaneously as it gives a quicker response
Military GLONASS is up to 4-5m accurate, and military GPS is up to 2-3m accurate.
@@electricspeedkiller8950 Fun fact, GPS is accurate down to centimeters or even millimeters if you want, and there is no civilian or military GPS. Its all the same for everyone. Dual receivers and/or augmentation is "all" you need to get the quality of positioning the military has.
13:18 It's not *_"trash-hold"_* 😊
Isnt gps an open thing though? Like couldnt russia equip it as a backup?
Lol giving gps data on russian assets to the US sounds like it would work
They do! During late 2022/early 2023, Russian jet pilots inadvertantly showed that they were using civilian GPS units to execute flight maneuvers to approach Ukrainian targets.
Russia doesn't use GPS in its _weapons guidance_ systems because the USA can obfuscate GPS data in a warzone on command by suddenly adding encryption or momentarily shutting off satellites. The problem for Russia is that GLONASS is not good for rapidly updating location data in the way GPS is. Pull out your phone, turn on positioning and it can track your location to within 1-2 meters in real time multiple times every second. That's already absolutely stupid accurate for your show human corpus or Uber ride but insanely accurate for a GPS guided weapon traveling at Mach 4. When GLONASS _isn't being manipulated_ it gives very precise info but on a more human time scale of several seconds or minutes. So their "precision" weapons often miss by dozens of meters because the last update to their flight trajectory was 5 seconds ago while dropping at Mach 1.
Your Graphic implied the Glonass Sat are geostationary ? they are not so.
The video was pretty clear it was medium orbit, and then there's a few that Russia is putting up in highly elliptical orbits -- look up Molnya and Tundra orbits for examples -- in order to get better coverage just over Russia.
Do you have a road atlas anon?
RUSSIANS DONT EVEN HAVE UP TO DATE MAPS , HOW DOES THIS WORK OUT FOR THEM .😮😊
Kenetic hits or an emp on the satellites themselves
Can't we develop a laser weapon that could work at that distance... Basically cut off the panels or something
First of all - laser beam is never ideally straight / coherent - there's always some residual dispersion at emmiter, not medium related. For context - laser guidance gives ~2m dot at ~10km. Imagine dispersion at 20 000 km.
Doesn't have to be visible light spectrum. Microwave or other spectrum directed energy weapons are feasible. Microwave transmitters are currently in common use for communications. Scaled up these could potentially bake a satellite slowly over time. Dumping heat is difficult in space because of the vacuum. Overwhelming the heat radiator systems in a satellite should be feasible because it will likely take more than a single orbit to cool. Cumulative heating at each pass could eventually bake the electronics rendering it inert.
The ammunition is already in space (the debris fields) so you just need to steer them towards your targets. Seeing how we know very little about X-37B am sure America has a few cards up its sleeve still.
My laser pointer is good enough
why not just drope nukes in space?
🔴 I'm surprised you didn't mention the possibility of going after the ground stations. Wouldn't it be a lot easier?
1 of the 4 is gone, so I'm told.
Target the ground control stations with extreme prejudice.
The satellites are sent correction signals about every 15 to 20 minutes.
Disrupt that, and you will, in about a day's time, have inaccurate and unacceptable positioning data.
Take out the ground stations, and their satellites will fail shortly thereafter.
Space Force suhs & you gotta wonder what that lil cargo bayed space shuttle’s been doing for decades up there 🤔
Flying IFR becomes I Follow Roads
VFR becomes Very Fast Roads for increased throttle over highways
Robert heinlein wrote about that.
"it's not what you think" everyone: Wait what channel am I watching?
should just send up 100s of lite weight solar sailing space drones to slowly reorientate orbit parameters towards various juicy space targets to activate when order 66 is signaled....
Seems with their home grown system Russian pilots wouldn't need to tape up over the counter American system GPS receivers in their newest and finest planes. Yet they were there for all to see in Russian Go Pro footage from early missions. They don't even trust their own system, how much of a concern is it?
Technology integration is a massive process that requires billions of dollars to seemlessly integrate like how US managed.
Russia is not a superpower neither are China and India.
US truly is sole superpower.
Russian glonass is an attempt just that, an attempt
@@gantulgaganhuyag717 I'm glad you say it with such confidance. Just keep minding your business and don't look at them.
@@electricspeedkiller8950word for word everything he said is true. Its not hubris, its reality. If they lowered their corruption to Soviet levels, maybe things would change.
It is in all ins-only planes to get fixes (americans did such too), those which with integrated space nav, uses whole range of nav systems glonass+gps+bsidu+whatether becous it uses western universal electronics components lol
What about attacking ground control stations?
GPS/GLONASS don't really use ground control stations, they have an internal clock with a correction on it, your GPS/GLONASS device just receives the time signals and location data of the satellites themselves, and extrapolates your position from that using the delay in th clock time on the satellite, and the Doppler effect.
@@greencanner4284 I'm quite familiar with how GNSS works. I've been using it for 30 years as a land surveyor. I manage a GNSS RTK network in southern California.
Each system (GPS, GLONASS, Galileo and Beidou) uses ground control stations to establish their orbits, update clocks and to upload ephemerides. It is one of the 3 main segments of all systems, the others being space and ground.
GLONASS has a pretty weak ground segment as it is. Without an updated orbit, the satellite vehicle position you reference in your description would rapidly degrade (days or weeks), with a subsequent degradation in positioning accuracy for the user segment. At some point it would not meet the user's needs.
As the US GPS satellite on-orbit technology has modernized, they have added some degree of self control from space, but I don't recall the details of that. I doubt the Russians have any number of SV's in orbit that can do that, if they even have plans to add that capability at all.
Sounds like glonass is fine
Don't attack the satellites, hit the ground stations. It only takes a week or two for accuracy to be seriously degraded.
It's called the X-37.
Bingo
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Title should be this:- how to start WW3
Too unspecific.
How to maybe start Kessler Syndrome
That would be lazy and very overused by people who spend too much time on Twitter
You looking for a Ironclad agreement with Jihad Joe
@@Paulftate Lol. Haven't heard that one. Stop making him sound so badass.
Is the need to update the satellites another vulnerability?
GPS satellites have their positions tracked by a whole series of tracking stations and the satellites then need to be told their own new position data, which itself is not easy because they are far away. If something interfered with/sabotaged the tracking or updating for Glonass, that would be a serious issue. And given that the US has bases all over the world, they have a lot more tracking locations to use. Would this make a difference?
Putin drank from a cup. 15:33
this is the kind of fact finding we need
Cup of tea, Dear?
It is actually a piece of cake, do nothing. There is a very good chance of a self-destruction.
There's a little tiny space shuttle that's weaponized with a big surprise 😅 for ze ruzzia!
I forget the name of it, but Russia has like four satellite receivers or something and didn't. Ukraine blow up one of them so they're only able to gather so much data
20 seconds damn I must be first 🤔
Russia was working on interstellar nuclear station. They have good advancements in nuclear propulsion, so such vehicle can potentially be a Space Battle Cruiser or something. Maneuvering in space without needing much fuel. Just casually and without any disturbance approaching every GPS satellite.
To laser a high-altitude satellite I guess you would need 1.21 GIGAWATTS? 😜
Think it through, the power is only needed for nanoseconds.
It only works if the satellite is going 88mph
This is why quantum navigation needs more investment.
How likely is it that it will be viable?
@@h.c5750 vehicles do able now, missile warheads not yet
@@h.c5750 At the moment, I think it is more considered for ships and submarines to avoid using GPS.
In the future, I could see a stealth military Starship as a possibility. Once you have that, there are many options available.
Van Allen radiation belt
no such thing as stealth in space.
@@Alex.Holland So, maneuvering using cold gas thrusters and covering the exterior in radar absorbing material would do nothing? We're not talking about Romulan cloaking device here, just significantly reduced observability and radar cross section. My bet is that DARPA already has the tech.
@@gregkelly2145 the entire world would know exactly where it was because of the launch, and could track it if they wanted to.
@@gregkelly2145it would reflect light regardless, a telescope would be able to see it
Don't even think about it. It will open a can of worms.
The West is running out of ways to escalate the conflict.
@@shanerooney7288 Exactly, time to end this war and reach a negotiated settlement
I complain about you being biased, so maybe I should buy a little Binkov to use as a voodoo doll
why is Galileo which far superior to GPS not reviewed ?
Because Glonass is far superior
The Chinese trolls are out in this one !
early!
if glonass can be attacked, gps too can be attacked. 😂
You should watch the video. Obviously any satellite can be attacked.
@@Djamonjathanks capt obvious
@@the_manofculture You stated the obvious, I just pointed it out.
China maybe. Not ruzzia. They can barely find they own ass with Glonass much less shoot down Uncle Sam’s birds. US however CAN shoot down satellites. Been able to for like 40 years now.
1st
Binkov, the Russian bots will not like this video!
😂 12:04 joke, I almost hit unsubscribe.
So much blabbing - yet not a single thought about Kessler's syndrome. Intercept just a handful of sats with missiles and the *whole* orbit is going to shit for everybody for decades.
By the time you wiped out the other birds in the same orbit, the target could deploy another constellation in a slightly different orbit.
No. You don't understand Kessler's syndrome. That's a low orbit phenomenon. While certainly a concern at say 200km, it simply isn't a meaningful concern at a 20,000km orbit.
HOW ARE YOU ASKING WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO DISABLE.....IT DOESNT WORK NOW!
Are you just very under educated or rage bait?
@@donetski7324I think a mixture of both
go look at his comments lmao
shit is so funny
DF-21D ASBM Saved
1941 Pearl Harbor From
Japan Attack?
Then a guy with 3 DirecTV receivers get full precision locations from a giant constellation of cheap internet satellites from an billionaire buffon... 🤔🙃🤫
NaT0 panic mode lol
NATO doesn't need to panic, Russia can't fight its way out of a paper bag and the west is enjoying watching the Russian military and economy evaporate. How desperate do you need to be to go ask North Korea for soldiers? 🤣🤣
@@jsncrso The Russians have slaughtered the Nat0 created armed and led military of the Ukraine every pathetic Nat0 game changer weapon has failed but you guys keep cope alive lol
@@mrpilkington9710 Day 850+ of the 3 day SMO. Yes, it looks like Ukrainian forces have been totally smashed.
@@nigelgarrett7970 I do Love the pathetic nafo talking point of the 3 day war that was never stated by Russia only by nato propaganda outlets though for time tables the ukie military said last year they will be in Crimea in 3 weeks they made it a foot and a half forward lost tens of thousands of men and all the western super duper weapons they were given that year LMFO
Didn't the film gravity made fan of russia for trying the same thing ? Now who's the fool
NO EVERYONE DOESNT USE THEIR OWN SYSTEM, EVERYONE USES AMERICA'S !
Not true !!
There’s literally 100s of thousands of satellites in space I assure you only America uses americas satellites lol Americans seem to lose brain cells year on year it’s insane
@@LWQ15881 There is less than 10k satellites in orbit, almost half of which are starlink LEO guys. There is only a few dozen of the GPS types, in 4 constellations, usa russia EU and china, and yes, most consumer goods around the world that uses one of these systems uses the american one.
@@LWQ15881you’re a simple person aren’t ya
I prefer the Somali one
Surveillance and communication satellites are the target, not gps
A lot of anti Russia videos why no videos on how to stop or attack Ukrainian or why not make videos with out prejudice that is targeted at one nation
Because Ukraine didn't invade Russia. Russia is the aggressor.
Because Binkov's battlegrounds is catering to the pro US/ pro-NATO side. It has become profitable in the west to produce Anti-Russian/Anti-Chinese propaganda. The amount of propaganda/misinformation channels has exploded over the past 2 years. Do not forget , the US and its vassal states spends tens of billions to spread their propaganda. Part of this money lands on CZcams.
@@haymaker710 So just like a typical neocon/neolib regime bot, you will just conveniently ignore what happened before the 2022 invasion? Okay then...
@@LaVictoireEstLaVie WOW REALLY? you almost talk like eastoid anti-west propaganda ins't a thing, genuinely wow.
@@LaVictoireEstLaVie look the autocrat bot talking, lol
The next video should be how ukraine will crumble once trump is elected because after that debate its pretty much in the bag
how? Trump already stated either Putin agrees to a peace deal or Ukraine gets a lot more weapons and money.
@@davidporter7051 When did trump say that?
@@Nero-Caesar 16JUL2023
@@Nero-Caesar 16JUL2023
@@Nero-Caesar July 16 2023
How warmonger (US) start world war 3 with terror
You're just jealous you don't live there 😂
@@timnarre谁会去嫉妒一个毒品遍地枪支泛滥各种人种汇集的国度？
@@user-yw8zm9wn7l I guess you'd have to ask the millions of immigrants that try to get into the US every year? Does Russia have a big problem with too many immigrants? I wonder why they don't?
@@Djamonja那是因为美国的宣传太牛逼了，所以世界上有很多被媒体欺骗的人试图进入美国，不过实际上至少在中国很多去到美国的人都发视频声称自己被美国宣传骗了
@@Djamonja街上都是粪便，各种各样来自世界各地的人种，时不时有枪击案，就像印度一样实际上美国是一个种姓国家
America's last decade has begun.
Satalies seem more expensive than line of sight towers.
Cheaper tbh, if u can understand the scale of coverage
Just send in the f15. 104-0 look out below, smoked a satellite just for show
how to disable gps?😂😂😂 Russia will use beidou