Anthropocene and the death of environmentalism
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 10. 07. 2024
- When the Earth starts doing stuff, fun begins
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Sources or mentioned articles (books are color-coded in terms of approachability):
đIsabelle Stengers, "Accepting the reality of Gaia?" books.google.pl/books?id=Rath...
đEwa BiĆczyk, "Epoka czĆowieka. Retoryka i marazm antropocenu ", a review by Edwin Bendyk: przekroj.pl/en/articles/feuil...
đ Clive Hamilton, "Defiant Earth: The Fate of Humans in the Anthropocene"
Planetary boundaries: www.stockholmresilience.org/r...
00:00 Intro
2:28 I Where we are
9:28 II The death of an environmentalism
15:07 III Everything is connected
25:12 IV Resilience and mankind
32:40 V For a new anthropocentrism
41:56 VI What's in it for us?
I just love the humor you use while explaining complex stuff, this channel is amazing, I hope it grows as it deserves
I'm glad, that your guys' content is in english now, I would not have found it otherwise, and that would be sad.
im putting polish in my languages to learn list for this XD
Itâs ridiculously rare to hear a channel like this mention earth system science.
Itâs unfortunate that so many activists know little about the most recent scientific fields which systematically explore the relationships between the natural systems of the planet.
This is great, just as good as the last video ! Your skepticism towards power structures fueling your hope for humanistic solutions is what makes the channel's perspective stand out in a flood of culture-war tinged debunks, pick-and-choose philosophy, and political essentialism. It is, dare I say, academic foremost. Really the kind of standard social/science CZcams content should reach for.
Edit: If no one else, I also appreciated your shoutout to spinozist monism at the end of the last video. Real ones for sure.
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Another great video!! Looking forward to following the channel grow.
Shame it's so depressing lol
The automatic suggested repllies were:
- You and me both!
- Tell me about it
- It really is!
Thanks, Google.
Anyway, we'll get to something optimistic eventually, I promise!
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You have yourself another patron :) great video, I have to admit your blowing my mind with these things as I was very much blinded by the media and what they want you to see etc
Wow, thanks!
Please translate more of your Polish videos to english, your stuff is such a breath of fresh air, so detailed and filled with interdisciplinary nuances. I'm feel honored to get such great analysis of this topic. (withâ€from đșđŠ btw)
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2 for 2 great videos.
I don't know how I found this channel, but I'm glad I did.
Your videos are so hard to deal with in many aspects, and it's really tempting to fall into depression, but they are also what we need to hear. Thank you for giving us hope at the end, and thank you for all the work you are doing, especially for translating it into English so people from other countries can learn about these topics.
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For sure a Patron now. This content is so, so refreshing! I'm trying to think of who in my connections would watch through either of these two videos but it's all I can think about since watching. Thanks so much guys, keep it up!
Man, day to day problems seem so insignificant when you ear about stuff like this
Your work feels an order of magnitude above the rest of CZcams content, please continue, we need more of this
Found this channel through the kurzgesagt critic, and what can I say? I love this channel and your work, of both of you. Saw that first video and had it in my mind for various days, and reflected on various personal things because of it.Two week later, came back for more awsome content. I think your english is indeed excelent since I it isn't my first language but I can still get 99,9% of it. Very glad your channel can reach so many people now, including me, through this english versions. Thanks for all your effort on making this videos đđ.
very little of what was said, was new to me, but that doesn't make it less important. The way you build your arguments is solid and well-paced. Also the stockholm graph from part3 is amazing, so thank you very much for sharing that with us.
Honestly this is really depressing. I feel like I'm just a cog in a machine of the planet's destruction, and that I can do nothing to help. I also feel very dumb, like no matter what I do, I'll always in some indirect way be doing something wrong.
Hopefully the new vid (that came out just like when you were typing this lol) can help you lift some of the blame!
@@t3essays thank you, I have watched it already! I love your guys' explanations and point of view, I'd love to be able to contribute to a better world but I constantly see myself doing the opposite, even if well intentioned, which makes everything seem kind of futile. You probably know what I mean. But I have joined a solarpunk group and I'm going to think about how I can do things just a bit better!
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This was so interesting, I was expecting this topic to be stressful to listen to, but I actually found it comforting. Awesome video!
It's crazy how only a few countries consider Mother Earth đ as a living thing with rights.
And those fighting for those rights to be codified in law are typically always Indigenous people
What about the Japanese?
Or Taoist?
Or Jains?
Why did you forget about them? Because itâs a fad to pity the poor victims of the world and look good while doing it
âOh poor indigenous. Hey everyone look how Iâm pitying the poor indigenous. Arenât I amazing and such a good person?â
@@deanmccrorie3461 "typically always Indigenous people" I didn't say always. Plus my statement still stands. Very few countries actually consider the Earth as a living being, and deserving of rights like humans.
Secondly I'm speaking about the western hemisphere specifically, (hence the western hemisphere earth emoji)
And these religions also have roots in Indigenous culture.
In America (North and South), Indigenous people are always fighting against the state and corporations in the justice system and physically. Pretty sure this statement will apply to people in other regions, such as Indigenous people in Australia.
@@deanmccrorie3461 They said typically, it's not to say all indigenous people care for the planet and humanity in this way either, besides they didn't pity anyone just pointed out that the majority of people who care about the planet are minorities who can not really do anything about it.
To me (I don't want to put words in their mouth) his point might also suggest that people in industrialised countries have become blind to the unsuccessful struggle for the wrong goals when compared indigenous people due to a weirdly normalised greed for money and self gain or a desire that these things are crucial or normal for humanity and themselves.
Personally im all for expansion but only in the pursuit of adventure, better wellbeing, sustainability and intellect for our species and as individuals, but it should be done carefully with genuine sustainability with human and environmental concern in mind.
One of the major flaws of most political ideologies is the greed of humans whether it be prejudice, lack of motivation to progress or selfishness regarding others and future generations, things that don't tend to occur as much in indigenous tribes so why can't their lifestyles be built upon in a larger worldwide scale where we share don't treat poorer folk like babies and as lesser but make genuine kind strifes to improve their lives, I'm not saying return to monke but to use our technologies and possesions collaboratively and communicate our successes and failures.
Son los mejores, y enserio que no tienen ni idea de lo bastante que muchos aprendemos con ustedes. Un abrazo ;^) Y que sigan llegando a mĂĄs gente.
Hear me out. To solve the problem at that large of a scale shouldn't we start thinking of dissolving borders/nations and start seeing things as one large group of people trying to get the best of what we have on Earth
So like a totalitarian state?
Ok
@@deanmccrorie3461 "dissolving of borders and nations" as in the abolition of states đ
I think all of you missed my point. Working as a collective doesn't mean abolishing democracy. It just means that we should up-scale our understanding of democracy and economics in such a way that we have Earth as one big country. The main point of this is to eliminate competition between nations and unite under our common goal as humans
@Porky Youre already starting with the idtiotic and deluded assumption that only the collective ensures survival.
Um weve had borders and nations since the dawn of time and we arent going anywhere.
What makes you think we need a one world order?
@Porky Sorry I am not Russian so I needed transportation for that. We have already started with the NATO and EU those are 2 smaller scale unions of what I meant. The process is going to be slow because some leaders will take this hard of unionization as a attack but even with NATO the ultimate goal is to have China and Russia as part of the union. Of course both NATO and EU are not exactly what I have inn mind but they are the closest real thing that I can think of to demonstrate my point
I am so glad I discovered this channel, looking forward for some incredibly engaging and knowledgeable videos like this
You fellas deserve the attention, keep up the good work!
Great video. You guys are truly one of the best channels on the platform
Ok, âPlantationoceneâ is kinda really brilliant. While it does not roll off the tongue as well as âAnthropoceneâ does, it does capture the sociopolitical/economic/monoculture truths *so much better*.
Thank you for doing these videos! Really great work!
Another banger video. I appreciate yâallâs work and effort to write, translate, and add content to it!!
Idk how I got here but I'm glad I found this video
Thank you! đ You people are great!
In addition to the general quality of your content, I just love your (slightly) dirty humor.
I'm so glad you guys decided to do more videos in English, your sense of humour, level of detail and overall style is just fantastic. DuĆŒo miĆoĆci my Polish friends ^^
23:10 slight nitpick : in aviation and many other fields of engineering there is a concept known as redundancy , according to wich putting as many fail safe on somenthing will decrease the possibilities of this device to fail ,
it's the reason why fly by wire systems have 3-5 computers that could fly the whole thing by themselves alone , because when they fail the other 2-4 computers will vote against them , and keep the plane level ,
so the only situation in wich a fly by wire system fails is in the apocaliptic scenario in wich 2-3 computers make the same mistake and that passes , wich is low ...
but yeah in general ecosystems can be interpreted as machines , biomachines , and it also explains why islands are so frail
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundancy_(engineering)
Fair criticism, while writing I had this common-sense image of a machine that doesn't require any redundancy.
@@t3essays yeah fair point , being understandable somenthimes is better that
saying the whole truth ,
Still good vid. This one was a bit more reinvigorating than the last one ,
I really liked the analogy given between "ecologyism" and libertarianism , in that both are effectively following a "super entity"
Fantastic work! Thanks for the vid
A Shinji mug can(NOT) exist happily on a table
3:42 I didn't expect a niche 2000s French comedy movie screenshot.
I love your graphics ! This video deserves sn Oscar !
I was going to post a comment, but I got distracted.
This is a rare channel. Nowhere else am I seeing this kind of deep diving.
10:25 "We'll just find another river. Don't mind all of the unique organisms we lost"
I just realized this the same channel that started a video off by claiming that rich people are literally a different species because they emit so much more carbon than the rest of humanity and I can't wait for the next one. I'm only halfway through but it sounds like you're going to talk about Marxism and permaculture at the same time and I'm here for it!
So glad I found this channel
Let's GOOOOOOOO, excited to watch this
Great video guys. Keep up the good work!
I understood everything without subtitles at two times speed, so your English is great
"The true adaptation were the friends we made along the way." I am going to quote this a bunch and you cannot stop me.
You guys are a fantastic duo. I too kinda have a friend with a degree in philosophy and we discuss all the things wrong with science as of now but we hadn't thought too much about this specific issue.
In our duo I am the tech and physics guy. And we are also building something exciting together.
Would be an absolute pleasure to talk to you guys on discord.
Also I noticed the views discrepancy between this and the other one, I hope it is indicative of gaining a lot of momentum. When I'm not working wage labor (and/or have given up on escaping wage labor) I will def be a patron lol
I feel like there should be severe punishment for companies paying scientists to prove false stuff in situations like the ones mentioned in the video. The companies were literally putting the whole world in danger (and Idk whether they actually got punished for it) just for the sake of profit
Capitalism stands for the most efficient use for resources, and for the most time, people are resource as well. We are being used in most efficient way, and if it mean we are being lied to -so be it. We should be more vigilant, the greatest wealths come from using people, and then serves the particular interests of individuals.
I'm so glad to have stumbled upon your first video! Thank you for translating more of your videos. It would be really awesome to see your (if I'm not mistaken) 2-part video on socialism here! Again, thank you so much for the work you guys do!
The 2-part video on socialism of theirs is just translation of an english lecture. Their other 2-part video is about the rhetoric of fascism. Maybe this is what you meant
@@lucjjam thanks for pointing that out. I actually didn't notice it was just a translation of a lecture, nor did I realize it is a lecture. yes, I did not click on either of the videos, assuming that it's also a review/commentary of the lecture (and maybe a deeper dive on socialism). now I guess I'll just watch the original video. sorry for the confusion!
WAS I JUST FUCKING RICK ROLLED????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't believe we got Rick Rolled at the end
I didn't even know Earth System Science was a thing.
My knowledge of this topic is grossly outdated it seems.
Thank you for this. Your videos are so interesting.
mad respect lads just down here for the engagement :) keep it up :D
imagine liking stupid stuff like this.
This video gives great insight. Appreciate the channel content.
Wonderful video just like the previous one. Even though it's about 1h long it's very enjoyable. even if a bit depressing at times, it gave me some hope for the future.
Also, all though it is funny when you question the script writer, It is also confusing lol đ
The debate about how to view the relationship between the Earth and humans is one that comes up a lot in Gundam and an especially important point is that space colonization is not some amazing solution because the Earth is simply so much more habitable, the point isn't that space colonization is bad but simply that it won't solve the issues on Earth on it's own. The view that generally wins out in Gundam is that the Earth and it's biosphere is in some way sacred and that humans must carefully protect it because it's the only place in the universe with life and is a sort of garden of eden in a universe that is otherwise incredibly hostile to human life. Also that we need to work together as an entire humanity to do this.
Humanity would never work together. Unless of course you went around colonizing everyone with real life gundams. Civilising humanity in the process.
Loved the video! Have a question, have you two ever thought of a podcast format? I'd love to see growth in that area!
Excellent video, like the last one!
also goddammit it's like the third time I've been rickrolled today wtf.
The little animated guy is pretty cute đ„ș
very good ; looking forward to the next videos
Hey life on Earth was totally interesting and diverse before the Phanerozoic too!
Amazing. I just wish it had subtitles. Hard for me to process without them.
You make my feel like Dorothy's friend the scarecrow - you make me"Think of things I never thought before; then sit and think some moređ€"
listened to this as podcast while gardening, and your english is easily understood. the only problem was funnily the word "MUG" in the beginning.I could only hear it as "MAG", so that took a few sentences to understand :P
50:39 thank you for making it
Great videos guys i have i have a suggestion for the next video i hope you guys will like it can you guys please cover Poland under communism and stalin because that time of the polish history is very interesting to me and it is worth learning about it's pro and cons of that time most people say it was good the worst place on earth it will be great to see you guys take on it
i hope you consider it and thanks for listening
Thanks! We're considering this video, but that won't be easy, for a few reasons. We're not historians, it's an almost 50 year period with ups and downs, and also it's hard to find an unbiased account of what happened. It's still in the back of our collective head, no worries!
@@t3essays thanks you
Damn, got RIck rolled!
great work
Great vid, I love the accent, like an old professor mild drunk to complain about stuff, but not so much so he knows what he is talking about.
Wow, that's a first! xD
Yo, how's your Polish channel named? I cannot find it.
Oh, sorry! We've added it to the description
A realistic tone and a laugh, what else do you need when you are together with people? Has we are here let's do our best to change shall we.
spelling lol
"a lesson of humility on a mythological scale". Well said. I think my favorite part was the implication that, whether the Ayn Rand fans like it or not, we''ll probably adapt to a less stable world by becoming more community-oriented (communal? communised?) and less individualist _because we are fundamentally social animals_. I found that reassuring, because I feel like the Mad Max future is the one that was coming and it would be miserable.
I laughed out loud several times (hora hora! butt plug easter egg!) and I like that you combine real depth with humour. Overall I feel.. better after watching this, so thank you.
This is some next level existential-dread-trigger type of content! Jokes aside (and in every joke, there is a little bit of joke!:'D), I am so happy that I've stumbled upon creators that are not from the first world countries. I love diversifying my sources and beating stupid YT algorithms.
Cannot wait for your next video. Keep on rocking S&P!
Lmao, the rickroll in the end got me good. Good video in whole. thank you guys
Interesting video, community is key!
RIP James Lovelock, the proposer of Gaia Theory. (26 July 1919 - 26 July 2022)
Great video. Anyone else catch the odd object on the left at 23:37 lol. I had a laugh.
Really good video i must say!
I do wonder how a less violent and more really human version of the mad max world would really look like!
Haha, I'm like the scriptwriter.
I read every single comment in the comment section. I like almost every comment as I read them as a way to keep track, and I think it shows that I listen.
I think the comment section is a tool for understanding the whole video: sometimes it's as important & useful as watching the video a second time.
For a fellow non-native English speaker, I have to say that your polish accent is easier to understand than British or Australian hahah
Lmao imagine believing the Earth is billions of years old.
Great video! :)
Great video! I shall comment for the algorithm.
Another amazing video! I have one question though; you repeat that our current economic system is 'unstable' and therefore cannot support indefinite growth while remaining environmentally friendly, which is something I generally agree with. That being said, I'm curious why you think the current system is unstable? Thanks!
Well, it's mostly because the current economics require growth, no matter the cost of the growth, however, the economy is not detached from reality and can not grow without raw materials, electricity, and work done by a man. The economy can only grow within the earth's boundaries, that's why we simply can't face the Anthropocene without changing our meaning of the economy.
Here (czcams.com/video/y0mpWL4zw6E/video.html) is another climate video that has a focus on growthâs instability, especially with regards to âgreen growth.â TL;DW, growth as *the* driving factor of current-society means that no amount of pollution-reducing or more efficient energy will reduce emissions and resource extraction (thus pollution) in the long term, because never ending growth eventually results in reaching a point where the negative impact become as bad as they were beforehand (because growth requires energy).
Amazing channel!
Hi Think That Thorough,
Will you please release a video on your opinion of hyperobjects? I would really appreciate help in understanding this topic.
Just as I found a youtuber which I would really want to support on patreon, patreon stopped working in Russia. Oh well âčïž
Nice video! đ Wish you many more subs
Thanks! We'll probably experiment with youtube memberships soon.
Banger
Great English! I almost understood everything without subtitles
I wish the video could have captions...đ
They should be up in a few days! We don't have the capacity to do them from scratch, so we need to wait until the automatic captions go live and work from that.
Great video!
* ruido de mate* đ§
I loved both of your video! I can't wait for capitalocene one!
Finally, one of the few available channels on youtube that at least tries to criticize the enlightenment values from a progressive/libertarian standpoint.
It's not WE and HER (Gaya),. We are a small but significant part of Gaya
I didn't expect to be rick-rolled by you...