Solarpunk: Saving the world one story at a time

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  • čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
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    🎬‪@MaggieMaeFish‬'s video on Joseph Campbell, pt 1: • The Hero's Journey Des...
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    00:00 Introduction
    01:32 I Culture and nature: who wears the pants in this family?
    13:23 II Humanity: living a double life. Zoe and bios
    20:05 III We're gonna do aliens
    28:04 IV And now we need to do the robot
    36:22 V Hieroglyphs and Heroes: why we can't have nice things
    55:19 VI Solarpunk: Lenses and Foundations
    1:44:27 Ending

Komentáře • 193

  • @thelemonaut
    @thelemonaut Před rokem +98

    I'm a little hesitant to write this, since it's a very new WIP, but I've decided to make a Solarpunk AU with some pre-existing OCs and tell bite-sized stories about them. Drew 2 comics on it so far and planning some more. You've been the push I needed to start this sorta stuff! ✨I hope to see more videos on this topic from you bc it's especially great to see Solarpunk being fleshed out

    • @marsvoltian
      @marsvoltian Před rokem +3

      Cool, do you have a link?

    • @rajasmasala
      @rajasmasala Před 10 měsíci

      I too want to get into solarpunk and writing again (I did do a creative writing degree) but family life is really keeping me busy. Good luck!

    • @cleonawallace376
      @cleonawallace376 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I'm writing a Solarpunk novel, and I know what you mean about being hesitant to say it. But I feel like I need to, to keep myself on track and make myself actually complete it. I never really realised how much work goes into writing a whole book!

    • @MILOPETIT
      @MILOPETIT Před měsícem

      ​@@cleonawallace376 I wanna read it

  • @crashedcan
    @crashedcan Před rokem +33

    The example from Sierra Leone is so beautiful, thanks for sharing! Reminds me of the example of the peaceful revolution in Sudan (won World Press Photo Story in 2020) where the community took over public infra like waste managment out of protest to the government- and the military who was told to take out the revolution simply chose to aim their weapons at the corrupt government instead of their brothers and sisters. Yet this story is so far from any hegemonic myth of progress that we just "find it hard to believe" and we just kind of ignore it- even though it is truly astonishing and world shifting.

  • @DeathToMockingBirds
    @DeathToMockingBirds Před rokem +20

    This is beautiful. I really had low expectations, seeing so many "solarpunk" videos that are clearly people jumping on a "new niche", without much of the philosophical underpinning that makes your analysis rich and concrete.

  • @aboody8618
    @aboody8618 Před rokem +72

    T3 upload at a family gathering? They can excuse me for the next 2 hours

  • @bgiv2010
    @bgiv2010 Před rokem +6

    My best pitch for a solarpunk hieroglyph is some kind of hyper-garden. A place where the people and their ecosystems are interdependent and private production is frowned upon, beyond what is reasonably necessary for survival in an emergency.

    • @frankiapples
      @frankiapples Před 9 měsíci +2

      Sounds like the community orchard I volunteer at 🥰

  • @Laezar1
    @Laezar1 Před rokem +19

    Me : Oh I'll delay my sleep to watch the video
    Also me realizing midway through it's actually more like two hours than one hour : Oh, well I'm this deep in now might aswell keep going
    Also also me at the end : Well... I was too tired and didn't really listen so I missed most of what was said uuuuh...
    So hm yeah, ima head to sleep now and hopefully I can figure it out tomorrow xD

    • @t3essays
      @t3essays  Před rokem +9

      Tbh I often end up re-listening 1+hrs videoessays as well

    • @gewreid5946
      @gewreid5946 Před rokem +1

      @@t3essays I think i might do that at some point too. It was a lot to wrap my head around and kinda forgot what the first part was about already after just finishing it. And i wasn't even asleep or tired... ^^"

    • @kwisin1337
      @kwisin1337 Před rokem

      Thats the real benefit of videos, rinse and repeat.

  • @byamparsons2286
    @byamparsons2286 Před 7 měsíci +2

    this was fascinating, especially thank you for sharing the solarpunk prompts podcast. im an amateur creative and learning about this movement is so inspiring, I think it could do a lot to create through and through activists. With an emphasis on input from all types of backgrounds, anyone can create heiroglyphs. So cool, and inspiring to think about/contribute to. Please keep recommending solarpunk books/art/work from all over the world please!!!

  • @robbenfelix
    @robbenfelix Před rokem +15

    You guys are masters of using language the Right Way.

  • @livialavendula777
    @livialavendula777 Před rokem +21

    I have a rough idea in my head about a solarpunk story that might work 😅
    The main characters would be archeologists living in this solar punk utopia digging up artifacts from our times (or shortly after us).
    Imagine "Cold Earth", but without the Global Pandemic and without cannibalism and more focus on the storyline of the people who's remains are dug up.

  • @Doomroar
    @Doomroar Před 9 měsíci +2

    Hearing the description, writing a proper solarpunk story, is quite a big undertaking, because you actually have to imagine a community that is solving a concrete problem within the stipulations of ecological consciousness, degrowth, community focus, decolonialism, and separated from the tropes of the hero journey
    And then you have to make it good enough, without falling into it becoming preachy, but if you manage to succeed you will have a treasure of a text
    It doesn't helps that we don't have the hieroglyphs or well established tropes to use as guideliness

  • @merty5713
    @merty5713 Před rokem +5

    I've recently finished a game design course and the part where it was supposed to be about cinematics was completely about hero's journey without any alternatives. I hated the classes and the overwhelming amount of Star Wars clips that we had to watch and "study" since I am a fan of cinema and never had a cinema class in university that glorified this type of storytelling before. Now coming across this video ignites the creative side in me again. Looking forward to learning more about the other ways of telling a story.

  • @maxlawson1187
    @maxlawson1187 Před rokem +30

    Four years ago I started making a diesel punk comic book. Since then, I've become an environmentalist/socialist/anarchist. Now my comic has to take a new direction. Life is hard
    Oh, and this was a great vid to draw to!!! I find your voices very calming. (Barely noticed the two-hour run time)

    • @michaelriverside1139
      @michaelriverside1139 Před rokem +4

      I'm rather curious...
      Could such a change be also seen within the story itself?

    • @maxlawson1187
      @maxlawson1187 Před rokem +7

      @@michaelriverside1139 I think I lack the skill and patience to create a worthy solar punk setting. (Not to a level that would satisfy me;) So instead of morphing the genre of my comic into something respectable, I think the best I could do is create a thematic twist that condemns the foundation of the world I've created and aspires for something better. And who knows, maybe in the time it takes to do that, I'll have evolved enough as an artist to actually paint a picture of that better world. 🤞Thanks for asking! 😸

    • @michaelriverside1139
      @michaelriverside1139 Před rokem +7

      @@maxlawson1187 Oh wow, that sounds super meta, yet just as meaningful and straight-up brave!!
      Reminds me a lot of Jules Verne's latter works condemning the march of progress that he used to admire, such as Robur the Conqueror being a much more villainous version of Captain Nemo or The Purchase of the North Pole turning the pioneers of From the Earth to the Moon into ruthless businessmen willing to use their technology to invert the earth's axis just to prove their theories and get a few dollars more...
      I've also been trying to finish the concept phase of a personal project that shows the evolution of a society through Steampunk, Dieselpunk, Cyberpunk and ends with Solarpunk, though I'm beginning to think that perhaps it's a bit too much!

    • @maxlawson1187
      @maxlawson1187 Před rokem

      @@michaelriverside1139 If you only think it's too much, you're still in the safe zone. It's when you know it's too much. That's when you're in trouble. Wait till then, that's when you should back off 😸

  • @LizardOfOz
    @LizardOfOz Před rokem +7

    I was considering making a Solarpunk-themed video game where you build and maintain a settlement, but the concept I ended up with was just greenwashed Factorio.
    The idea of progression (aka growth) is so intertwined with like half of the games, we just don't have a good template of a building game that's now about it. Even Minecraft becomes a factory game if you play long enough.
    Side note: the other "half of the games" involves violence to the same extend. It's almost a given that you can attack and kill things in video games. The first thing you see people do in Minecraft when they see a new creature is to attack it, which is not how the same people would behave in real life.

    • @LizardOfOz
      @LizardOfOz Před rokem

      To further elaborate on the game concept: people just wouldn't find it engaging to have a survival/settlement/building game where you maintain the existing status quo [which would, presumably, break and wear out over time], without the ability to expand (having one would quickly escalate to giga-growth).
      I was also considering making a game where you have to survive against increasingly worsening conditions for as long as possible, but having a game where you're destined to fail and the question is how long you can survive goes against the Solarpunk's message.
      A game where you have to withstand a rival expansionist faction? This one is more likely to work out, but what is the "win condition"? Going on the eventual counter-offense is both against the Solarpunk spirit, and also unfeasible because a big centralized Capitalistic system has more raw power than a local Solarpunk community.

    • @Laezar1
      @Laezar1 Před rokem +3

      @@LizardOfOz Maybe a degrowth game? A game where you start with an existing settlement that is unsustainable in many ways and the goal is to scale down to the point of sustainability while still trying to keep everyone happy.
      But yeah I agree that solarpunk is especially difficult to conceptualize for videogames because most of the vocabulary of game design that has been explored goes against the concept. The tricky part is that you'd have to both make the player feel like they're part of the world and not the driver of it aswell as not making them feel powerless, like they have no agency over their own life. And I don't know how to do both in videogame language.
      The wandering village kinda tries but it still very much feels like a game about growth and exploiting the world, simply with limits to it (and honestly that make it not very fun imo)

    • @LizardOfOz
      @LizardOfOz Před rokem +1

      @@Laezar1
      > Maybe a degrowth game?
      That's a good idea, and would convey the idea of how our current society could make the transition.
      Obviously, in a flawed and simplified way, since it'd be an indie video game by a non-expert, but it's something people can point at and refer to.

    • @gewreid5946
      @gewreid5946 Před rokem +2

      @@LizardOfOz I have not much of a clue about factorio or game design (or necessarily solarpunk), but how about a game were progress isn't just linear growth but integrates periods of change, transition or retrofitting?
      The fun in factorio, from what i get, is about optimizing things, right? What if the optimum wasn't static but dynamic.
      Either there are slow, random fluctuations in the world/rules you have to adapt to. Or once you reach certain technologies or stages of the game, what used to be optimal becomes harmful and you have to replace it without your system collapsing.
      Maybe components could have different secondary effects you have to manage and minimize or harmonize.
      Waste and having to dispose of it in various ways could be a part, with later technologies letting you use waste as resources and completely transforming the gameplay.
      Or at some point during the game another "faction" or "anomalies" could be introduced to the map that offer both powerful negative and positive effects. You can't change them or do anything about them, just change yourself and adapt your strategy around them. It would be uncomfortable and impractical at first but be very rewarding and satisfying in the end. Cooperation and encountering something new should be an incredible oportunity, if you manage to open yourself to it.
      I think a big theme there could be overcoming challenges that are not external but arise from within your own system, requiring resilience, compromises and adaptability but feel rewarding and exciting if you manage to.
      That's just me throwing a bunch of concepts and ideas at the wall, hopefully you'll manage to find something inspiring and useful in there.

    • @LizardOfOz
      @LizardOfOz Před rokem

      Upon further thinking about a "degworth game" - it'd be way too big for a single person to make.
      Such a game would (intentionally or not) be a model of how to apply degworth to our society, and to make it justice you'd need to make an extremely complicated resource flow system, at least as (or more) complicated than in games like Civilization, Cities Skylines.
      Let alone the immense knowledge needed to accurately represent the key parameters.

  • @anon_9221
    @anon_9221 Před rokem +16

    Thanks for the new video! A couple minutes in, I realized how much I already started missing the Think That Through style in the months since the last one. I'm not a writer, so this might not inspire me to write Solarpunk stories but the notions of hieroglyphs, zoe and bios are some food for thought nonetheless.

  • @dymaxion3988
    @dymaxion3988 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I love worldbuilding, and for the past couple of years I've been slowly working on an idea that I haven't really been able to (or wanted to) fit into a "genre". But the more I learn about solarpunk, the more I think it might fit.
    My world is a planet in a solar system tens of light years away, which was terraformed and settled by an interstellar seed ship. Though it begins more than a thousand years in the future, the lack of FTL travel meant that the contents of said ship were completely unchanged since the time it left the solar system: not so far from today that society had everything figured out. The essence of it is about a new world being built/coming into being based on interpretation and reexamination of the sum of knowledge about the world in the rearview mirror. I think there's so much potential when technology, society, nature, and even life itself don't arise in order, but instead all arrive at once as a premade package deal. And more importantly, that they affect each other from the beginning. On a planet where robots came first and megaengineering projects are fundamentally important to life, the structures of our human societies are not sufficient. On a planet where the balance of the biosphere is not something that can be taken for granted, things have to work a bit differently.
    (Hint: it's more cooperation. And communication, and lots of it.)

  • @elme-thelabrat2306
    @elme-thelabrat2306 Před rokem +1

    I love this so much!
    for me it takes days to watch one of your videos. Every 5 minutes i have to pause and think about what you just said. And i love every second of it. keep up the good work!

  • @mekangtogo420
    @mekangtogo420 Před rokem +1

    Seriously, the more i think about it, the more i realize how difficult it is to imagine the settings portrayed in the video.
    I'm happy that i got the chance to reflect on my own views referencing the stories and ideas shared.
    Thanks a lot!

  • @pts669
    @pts669 Před rokem +3

    Folding origami while listening to T3 is extremely therapeutic. Super cool video, recommending it to everyone. I am very glad that this topic is getting more attention. Not only because of the concept, but also because it makes people reconsider how certain narratives and stories are normalized (like the hero concept). Can't really discuss a two hour video in a comment section, so rest assured I'll be pestering people I know with it:)

  • @AnarchistArtificer
    @AnarchistArtificer Před rokem +19

    A question towards Pawel:
    I'm disabled and that's a large part of my identity because my multiple disabilities don't play nice together and it makes it harder for society's systems to "solve" my access issues by following a nice neat protocol.
    Do you have any recommendations for places that explore disability as a part of solarpunk, whether it's blogs, video essays, fiction or non fiction? People often don't like to think or talk about disabled people and I think that's one of the many hangups that humanity would need to work through to achieve a solarpunk future.
    An article that had significant influence on how I think about this was Rosemarie Garland-Thompson's "Misfits: A Feminist Materialist Disability Concept" (2011). Below are a couple of quotes from that feel very conducive towards a solarpunk thinking:
    "One of the hallmarks of modernity is the effort to control and standardize human bodies and to bestow status and value accordingly"
    Garland Thompson argues for "an identity politics that would reimagine disability as human variation, a form of human biodiversity that we want to recognize and accept, even embrace, in a democratic order."
    "Attending to the dynamics of misfitting and fitting urges us to cultivate the rich particularity that makes up embodied human diversity. Although modernity presses us relentlessly toward corporeal and other forms of standardization, the human body in fact varies greatly in its forms and functions."
    "The moral understandings, subjugated knowledge, or ethical fitting that can emerge from what might be called socially conscious, or even theoretically mediated, misfitting can yield innovative perspectives and skills in adapting to changing and challenging environments. Acquiring or being born with the traits we call disabilities fosters an adaptability and resourcefulness that often is underdeveloped in those whose bodies fit smoothly into the prevailing, sustaining environment. This epistemic status fosters a resourcefulness that can extend to the nondisabled and not yet disabled as they relate to and live with people with disabilities."
    "Understanding identity as a set of variable fits and misfits, a potentially productive fusion of coincidence and disparity between one’s particularity and the material status quo, provides a way to convert being to wanting without neutralizing identity."
    Related to this is a growing trend towards crip theory and other related offshoots (some of which may be described as queer transhumanism). It feels like it's flailing a bit though, fumbling for hopeful hieroglyphs that don't yet exist.

    • @ShiftyMoravian
      @ShiftyMoravian Před 9 měsíci

      We should absolutely strive to include people with disabilities, we should however never fully accept them (the disabilities themselves, not the people) and think of them as a "good thing". We should be focused on trying to eradicate and/or cure them to our best ability. Because think of it however you want, accepting them is one thing, but that doesn't make them good in any way, as they objectively lower the quality of affected person's life.

  • @oskarharding2590
    @oskarharding2590 Před rokem +10

    Thank you so much for your videos, sorry I’m writing in English but my Polish is not as good as my babcia says it is haha and I really wanted to thank you for your channel. It is honestly incredibly inspiring/informative as well as funny to listen to and to watch

  • @raumsegler
    @raumsegler Před rokem +12

    Super Interesting. Really enjoyed watching(listening to) it, like the rest of your videos. You could also upload this as a podcast on Spotify and all the other platforms since there weren’t a lot of visuals at all(which is fine). Also it would be really cool if you could maybe make like semi-regularly updated list of good Solarpunk media. Since you guys are really deep in this Genre and know a lot more. I think this would help a lot of people diversify and expand their views and opinions on the subject, which like mentioned in the video is heavily dominated by western views, but since it is relatively hard or at the very least time consuming to find different, not western media most people won’t or can’t go out of their way to find it. Well you don’t have to, if you don’t have the time or motivation to. Would find it cool though if you did. Love your channel❤

  • @missZoey5387
    @missZoey5387 Před měsícem

    Interesting essay, especially on the hierogylphs stuff. Ive started writing a solarpunk story about future archaeologists who examine the remains of the previous worlds and dealing with existential dread

  • @JordanSullivanadventures
    @JordanSullivanadventures Před 4 měsíci +1

    I would say Ruthanna Emrys' novel A Half-Built Garden is a good example of "Era 2 Solarpunk" -- it's a first contact story set in a world where a decentralized eco-anarchust revolution happened, but they're still dealing with the handful of governments and corporations limping along in their own ways. It's not a perfect book, but I think it's worth a read, esp for anyone interested in socialism, sci-fi, and Solarpunk specifically.

    • @JordanSullivanadventures
      @JordanSullivanadventures Před 4 měsíci

      Hahahahaha I wrote this comment like 30 seconds before you mention the book 🤣

    • @alxd
      @alxd Před 3 měsíci

      @@JordanSullivanadventures you're making me use my time machine, eh?

  • @bgiv2010
    @bgiv2010 Před rokem +4

    Wait... Would a bird maintaining a nest count as non-human bios?

  • @kiernanbauman
    @kiernanbauman Před rokem +6

    Amazing video as always! Wish I knew any Polish so that I could get more content from the other channel, but this will have to do. This guest was great and I'm really glad I was able to hear his perspective on these topics. As an aspiring author in the speculative sci-fi/fantasy genres, especially focusing on environmental/ecological issues, this has been wonderful to open up my mind to new concepts and perspectives. Can't wait for the next video!

  • @hexramdass2644
    @hexramdass2644 Před rokem +1

    I have a story in my head that might one day emerge from hiding. One of the core explorations is what a realistic brighter future might look like and this has sowed some seeds.

  • @Gabriel64468
    @Gabriel64468 Před rokem +1

    The Zoe/Bios section reminds me about "The Social Contract" as explained by Philosophy tube: Zoe is sitting around the bargaining table, bios is on the table and the big question is what (or who) is pushed into Bios to be divided up.

  • @cpav9062
    @cpav9062 Před rokem +5

    Thanks for the video. It would be exquisite if you put in the description a list of all the books mentioned.

  • @andreabarresi9874
    @andreabarresi9874 Před rokem +5

    I've had the chance to meet Paweł Ngei last year after Solarisecon and he opened my eyes SO MUCH, his perspectives have been crucial in giving me so much inspiration and storytelling compasses for what I write.
    I can proudly say that yes, the characters in my current story can reproduce Wikipedia, and I can't wait to finish writing it!

    • @giovannidamaro3820
      @giovannidamaro3820 Před rokem +1

      Hi! I'm guessing that you're italian and since I am too, I would love to read something solarpunk. Also it would be nice to just talk!

    • @andreabarresi9874
      @andreabarresi9874 Před rokem +1

      @@giovannidamaro3820 Heyo, sure! Do you have a mail, or Mastodon?

    • @giovannidamaro3820
      @giovannidamaro3820 Před rokem

      @@andreabarresi9874 Non ho mastodon e CZcams continua a cancellare il commento se mostro la mail

    • @andreabarresi9874
      @andreabarresi9874 Před rokem

      @@giovannidamaro3820 Che merda! Telegram, Signal?

    • @giovannidamaro3820
      @giovannidamaro3820 Před rokem

      @@andreabarresi9874 fatherpapparelli

  • @Isma_IllustraDesign
    @Isma_IllustraDesign Před 10 měsíci +1

    I need to investigate more, but I'm liking this Solarpunk stuff.
    I'm an art student, I may try to do some art explorations and experiments for class. I'll be thinking 🤔

  • @thosebloodybadgers8499
    @thosebloodybadgers8499 Před rokem +1

    It certainly feels like a big ask and responsibility to craft an entirely new narrative which both grounds itself in reality yet doesn't fall back on tired tropes, both inspires hope through shining light on currently existing solutions yet doesn't appear too utopian and unrealistic, both highlights different voices and perspectives yet doesn't become discordant or diluted and unrecognizeable.
    Then again, these tales have never really inspired me to create, but rather reinforced my already festering insecurities around "perfection" and creation. I really wish I'd have the guts and perseverence to actually even try dipping my toes in something like that, but even the tired stuff seems like a huge undertaking.

  • @quigzinator
    @quigzinator Před rokem +2

    I really love the idea of solarpunk and look forward to reading many more stories that take place with solar punk in its framework.
    One Issue i cant seem to reconcile about solarpunk is the issue of anarchy. I keep on thinking that yes capitalism is the driving force behind many of the problems solar punk seeks to fix and that in its current state it isnt going to be much good. But looking at anarchy as a solution to this issue of rampant capitalism, I am concerned for safe guards against mob rule or the emergence of tyranny that seems inevitable when I start to think deeply about how anarchy would function. Most media I have consumed concerning solarpunk seems to think that people will be good natured and their actions would be influenced with the idea of good for the community in mind. There seems to be a blind spot to bad actors or greedy individuals who might exploit or subjugate others under such a scenario. I have talked with this about my friends at length, and I wonder if this is just the doomer in me or if solar punk has rose tinted glasses in regard to this issue.
    But to be honest I dont see a better solution to solve the issues of this late stage capitalism we find ourselves in. I dont know maybe some kind of light capitalism might work but it seems to only lead to more corporate capitalism. I hope its just the doomer in me, but i cant accept anarchy if it will lead to tyranny or exploitation of the underrepresented.
    Maybe Solarpunk needs to be optimistic about it all to encourage more change in its direction. Unfortunetly i seem stuck with this issue. I will continue to garden and reduce my participation in capitalism as much as i can, but for the activism side of it all, im going to wait and research more.
    Loved the video btw. Real excited to get a call to one of my favorite sci-fi books "Speaker for the dead". Keep making videos, i'll keep watching ;D

    • @elainetamika4822
      @elainetamika4822 Před rokem

      What you means by light capitalism? Anarchy or decentralization has much more potential to avoid under representativeness. See Cuba for example, they have an mixed characteriscts of an state and an decentralized society, they have an president and an parliament but they also have popular councils that make many local decisions, also is up to these councils to vote many constitutional changes, like the recent regulation about cuban family, that is puttin foward gender equality ideas of how parenting should work and removing any restriction to marriage that existed previously.

  • @perro_criollo
    @perro_criollo Před 9 měsíci +2

    I'm a writer, and I'm Argentinian. Of course, being from the global south, publishing is very difficult as I have to work as a teacher (I love my job, unlike many people), and I'm dabbling into YT as well. I would really, really like to write something in SolarPunk, but I really need some support to do it (and I mean to have some public to read and motivate me). For what matters, I have a novel awarded and published about 12 year ago (with even a TV tropes page!).
    If it is any chance to make a link with a publisher outside my country (say in Spain, for example) I would take it, but the main barrier is motivation.

    • @alxd
      @alxd Před 8 měsíci

      You could try www.futurefiction.org/ , they love working with people from all over the world and have a few South American anthologies, as well as a few Solarpunk ones :)

  • @AlonsoQuijanoP
    @AlonsoQuijanoP Před 5 měsíci +2

    the concept of new hieroglyphs for the solarpunk technology solutions is mindblowing yet makes total sense when it is laid down. Where can I find communities or resources that delve specifically into this topic? All solarpunk resources and communities I come across are oriented towards sticking it to capitalism/corporations or about recycle-reuse schemes, which while important, is not what drives my motivation.

    • @alxd
      @alxd Před 3 měsíci

      I think www.appropedia.org/Welcome_to_Appropedia might be up your alley ;)

  • @Captain0Newman
    @Captain0Newman Před 10 měsíci

    So glad solarpunk is a thing. Hope it takes off

  • @samarchist74
    @samarchist74 Před 7 měsíci

    I feel like LeGuin's "Always Coming Home", which I consider her greatest work, didn't get the respect it deserved precisely because it was wildly solarpunk before solarpunk was a thing.

  • @sagethelemur
    @sagethelemur Před rokem

    bless thw algorithm gods for bringing me to this absolute gold. fantastic y'all got a new sub

  • @samsusaran09
    @samsusaran09 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Evangelion: thrice upon a times’ “WILLE” is a solarpunk society. No one has talked about this. But I think it should be.

  • @variedreasoning6416
    @variedreasoning6416 Před rokem

    At 7:03 I immediately though of Ultrakill's OST. More specifically, Heaven Pierce Her's "Order."

  • @pik-pik
    @pik-pik Před rokem +1

    OPENSOURCE EVERYTHING VIVA LA RESISTANSE!!

  • @kobaka
    @kobaka Před rokem

    Thank you!

  • @jmh8817
    @jmh8817 Před rokem +2

    Another possible angle for conflict in a post-Solarpunk world is that of regressive elements making a comeback or threatening to do so. It may be considered a bit of a crutch because it lets you fall back on traditional storytelling and forms of conflict, but I think it's a good opportunity to show how even the most well-meaning systems can still create outsiders or have bad faith actors within them.
    Pawel brings up Omelas as an example, but I think that one goes too far in the "it's actually a dystopia" direction. I think a better take on the idea, also by LeGuin, is The Dispossessed, which offers another look into how a post-capital and post-private property society several generations in could still have plenty of problems to work through.

    • @alxd
      @alxd Před rokem +1

      Oh, I absolutely agree with the Dispossessed example, as a member of a lot of communities I am aware of _so many possible conflicts_! Omelas is just an example for a narrative device fore me, not a full-fledged world.
      If you'd like to check out a Solarpunk book with regressive elements, [spoiler], please check out LX Beckett's "Gamechanger". It's exactly about that ;)

    • @jmh8817
      @jmh8817 Před rokem

      Good to hear. And thanks for the rec. I put all of them on "the list", but this one is going up in priority!

    • @Vaeldarg
      @Vaeldarg Před rokem +1

      @@jmh8817 An additional option could be: Those who still, regardless of how peaceful/equitable/fair the world has become, can't believe the world wouldn't be better off if humans were simply not in it anymore, or that something else wouldn't fill the role of humans better. They could take advantage of something like a biodiversity resurrection project (like what's been talked about to somehow bring back Mammoths, but more matured) to cause a threat to humanity.

    • @jmh8817
      @jmh8817 Před rokem

      Anything can be improved with more dinosaurs!

  • @davidwadsworth1760
    @davidwadsworth1760 Před rokem

    Great Video! Thank you TTT!

  • @ShiroHaru004
    @ShiroHaru004 Před rokem

    keep it up i love dis kind of videos you guys make

  • @WeirdStyler
    @WeirdStyler Před rokem +1

    Thank you TTT and Pawel. This is quite inspiring. I've been involved with climate activism, but I didn't stick around that long. As far as I could see, all we could do was protest. It was enotionally taxing and not well organised (which I personally find very hard to deal with) so in the end I dropped it, hoping that my art studies would become valuable skills I could invest in activism later down the line. I am almost done with my studies now and thinking about the kind of life I want to live, to what extent I can avoid doing pointless work to eat, and how artmaking could make sense as activism or research for creating new imaginaries. You are giving me powerful examples!
    In my art school experience, inspiration is still a very personal matter. in most cases (from what I have seen in my French art school) artmaking is something you do alone, based on something within you. I haven’t come upon convincing examples of interesting artwork made by groups (unless each person gets their own well-defined, autonomous part of it, like a fanzine) and I have no idea how I would go about creating truly new work with others.
    ( I’m seeing a lot of nostalgia-based student work; resplendent with references to video games and childish kitsch aesthetics, self-conscious but only mildly ironic squeecore.)
    I want to get unstuck from my fascination with modernist aesthetics and universalist ideals, in service of more interesting and living work. For this, I must meet others and be surprised myself, shook from my habits and preferences, and take an authentic interest in other kinds of stories. It will be difficult.

    • @Vaeldarg
      @Vaeldarg Před rokem

      The "Saint Andrewism" channel that also talks about Solarpunk ideas, iirc was asking in a recent video about artists trying their hand at showing what Solarpunk might look like in non-temperate climates (that just about all Solarpunk scenes have taken place in so far). Could take up that challenge and see if that stokes anything?

    • @CampingforCool41
      @CampingforCool41 Před rokem

      Aren’t animated films examples of meaningful art created by many people together? Sure not every animated movie is a masterpiece, but it certainly can be done and has been done. And it tends to reach a much wider audience than more individual forms of art.

    • @CampingforCool41
      @CampingforCool41 Před rokem

      Also you mentioned references to video games as a bad thing. There is a reason people connect deeply to video games as they lend themselves to be powerful mediums of storytelling. Don’t shut yourself off from that because you think it’s “less intellectual”. Solarpunk ideas should aim to become well known and video games would be a hell of a way to explore that in s more involved way.

    • @WeirdStyler
      @WeirdStyler Před rokem

      @CampingforCool41 you're right, I've been too quick to write off artforms that require collaboration :)
      I don't think video games as such are bad. The way i've seen them referenced in paintings, engravings and installations by other students mostly has been a way to provoke instant nostalgia; sadness about lost childhood, a way to still SQUEE about Mario or Pokémon. I find it lacks imagination. Maybe it feels safe to make this kind or work?
      ( the idea for a degrowth ressource management game has been discussed elsewhere in the comments, that could be cool )
      @Vaeldarg I'll look at Andrewism, thank you!

    • @CampingforCool41
      @CampingforCool41 Před rokem +1

      @@WeirdStyler I suppose with those sorts of things yes it feels safe and comforting. I think that’s fine actually. Not everyone needs to make radical world changing art all the time. Sometimes art acts as personal therapy- many people found comfort in difficult times in their young life with “frivolous” things like Pokémon and Mario. In that way I think it’s often reductive to think it’s merely about nostalgia. I myself am a big fan of “Kingdom Hearts” which on the surface looks like an absurd crossover of Disney and Anime boys, which it is, but it’s also more than that to me and has helped me process a lot of things about myself and found friends through it. It doesn’t stop me from caring about real issues in the world or also wanting to see more art that addresses societal problems. Instead I think it’s often seemingly “silly” things that remind me about why it’s even worth fighting for a better world. A beautiful symphony has no inherent radical message, it doesn’t feed anyone’s stomach, it doesn’t protest the social order- it’s a silly frivolous thing. Yet we value it because of how it makes us feel, how it can give us strength to want to live to hear another one, right? I don’t know if I’m making sense, I’m just saying I think all types of art have their value whether or not you personally connect with it.

  • @clara-raxxa
    @clara-raxxa Před rokem +4

    What a fascinating video. I definitely enjoyed it because I don't think I've ever been super introduced to this idea of the monomyth causing stifling of possibilities. I am a recreational writer of Fanfiction and many of my stories have definitely fallen into the monomyth, and I don't know if I've ever really considered the problematic aspect of that since I was *taught* to write in a such a way, taught that doing it any other way was sub par.
    About your invitation to comment on things I'm curious about, well, I would just have to ask about, where do aesthetics fit into this cooperative and collaborative Solarpunk ideology? We all know that Cyberpunk is hinted at by its hieroglyph, the neon lights, the cybernetics, and perhaps the cyberspace. But I would want to know, would using these hieroglyphics in combination with Solarpunk ideology and perspective, effectively undermine the hieroglyphics of Solarpunk that we're trying to create?
    I honestly ask this just because *beyond* the rebellious and eternal grimdark status quo of a Cyberpunk world, I just enjoy the aesthetics. I love the neon lighting, the megacities filled with towering skyscrapers, people packed into a space so dense that they can walk to everything they need within 10 minutes and train to everything else within two hours. I love the style of dress, too, in fact I would say I try to present a Cyberpunk image in my wardrobe.
    So can you synthesize a Cyberpunk aesthetic into a Solarpunk methodology? Is to even ask that question an undermining of both? I look at all of these Solarpunk narratives and see visions of low density living. You spoke about each area of the world needing and wanting something different, a different solution. So is it up to the individual to attach their own aesthetic to the ideology?
    Sorry if I seem to have misunderstood. I watched the whole video through and really enjoyed it, my mind just likes to wander lol.

    • @batty_babette
      @batty_babette Před rokem +1

      I think that's absolutely possible!! Yeah a lot of solarpunk imagery is rooted in country/temperate, low density living but that's not necessarily how it'll be reflected in real life, especially with so many people living in cities! Andrewism has a community project he announced in his last video where he asks people to create artworks depicting solarpunk in different geology. Different climates, spaces, and living situations. Sounds like this might be interesting to you! As far as aesthetics- I don't see why there's any reason a solarpunk story couldn't have cyberpunk aesthetics (minus the poverty and corporate overlords lol). I also recommend looking up lunarpunk. It's not its own genre, really, but aesthetic wise it's "solarpunk at night" and generally has more neon or supernatural vibes in artwork.

    • @C0deH0wler
      @C0deH0wler Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@batty_babette Talking about fanfiction, there is a large number of ones with 'alternate solution' premises out there. But that seems to have tapered off these past 4 years or so :(

  • @ruialdelopes7791
    @ruialdelopes7791 Před rokem +2

    "Honey, get here, we have more books to add to the wishlist!"

    • @alxd
      @alxd Před rokem

      I just finished LX Beckett's Dealbreaker (a sequel to Gamechanger), so I have to tell you, if you want to see more tensions, more conflicts and something post-solarpunk, you may have even longer list :P

    • @ruialdelopes7791
      @ruialdelopes7791 Před rokem

      @@alxd I'll definitely add it, thanks! Haven't been able to read as much as I'd like recently, but since in Brazilian the next one is going to be the brazilian anthology mentioned in the video. It's always nice to discover more national literature.

  • @karigrandii
    @karigrandii Před 10 měsíci

    11:25 I have never heard that current deep ecologists would say that we need to stop overpopulation and everyone just accept deep ecology ideas. How I understand it from what I have read in a local deep ecology magazines and their manifesto is to slowly change by changing our mindset and behaviour trough practice. This includes understanding strong and weak sustainability and certain ethical and ecological ideas about the humans place in an ecosystem. Themes they have are anticapitalistic and they don’t belive in infinite economic growth, that technology will save us or that top down policy will change anything. Other ideas include moving away from cities to live more sustainably in communes and small villages, not mega consumerist cities that are only here to serve economic growth (not sure about if cities are unsustainable myself). I know deep ecology gets a bad rep for some ecofacists that used to call themselves deep ecologists (atleast where I live) but the current movement is really holistic and interesting. I think it might even be ”solarpunk” in a way how they imagine the future.

  • @BeautifulEarthJa
    @BeautifulEarthJa Před rokem +1

    drive engagement, sorry
    my head is still spinning from these high level ideas
    when i watch again, which I always do, I will be able to comment more substantively :)

  • @bgiv2010
    @bgiv2010 Před rokem +1

    1:05:00 AHH! I get it! Basically every story that is even remotely speculative involves some kind of altered status quo. It's the new normal for the people of the story but it represents a technical or political shift for audiences. We don't have a lot examples of stories where the problem is complacency with climate catastrophe. Like Don't Look Up is the best example I can think of and it's not great.

  • @swiss_arborist_barmetbaump3817

    When i can interduce one thing to solarpunk it is gardening for wildlife. Like the book natures best hope by Douglas w. Tallamy.
    Growing your one food is one ting but can be time consuming. So i focus on ghrilia gardening and spading weed patches and sowing grain and wildflowers for birds and insects

  • @cheweperro
    @cheweperro Před rokem

    Ty for the content

  • @micklenier6152
    @micklenier6152 Před rokem +1

    watching star trek (amazing how little DS9 and TNG aged) series recently it reminds me of solarpunk and how newer series are declining into commercialised story structure (older series also suffer from this, but they somewhat acknowledge this). watching other sci-fi i find how little it can be introspective.
    my vision for future is not truly solarpunk, because it's hard for me to vision world without greed hurting people on mass scale. solarpunk is something we should strive for and it will be a dramatic story getting there.
    i just wonder how should i come about this. how to live my life and to help world transform into more liveable and more certain long lasting future. perhaps ill write something, with more substance then internet comments.

  • @andreanguyenle404
    @andreanguyenle404 Před rokem

    Great video as always! I shall comment for the algorithm.

  • @gicadelascularie8878
    @gicadelascularie8878 Před rokem

    Great video!

  • @oscardunn8060
    @oscardunn8060 Před rokem +4

    I’ve taken my time to listen to this over the last few days and this is probably the most inspiring and thought-provoking video essay I’ve ever seen.
    I’m going to be listening to it again to really digest it, there is so much to think about.. it’s such an important point about the lack of hieroglyphs in popular culture for non-individualistic/heroic stories, I hadn’t noticed just how pervasive that was until Paweł pointed it out, and not just in sci-fi, but pretty much every form of storytelling. Lots more to think about but that’s just one thing off the top of my head that I found really interesting.
    Also, is Solarisecon going to be happening in 2023?
    Edit: Just wanted to add another point I really loved is the emphasis on Solarpunk not being free of conflict and drama. So many things which get classed as Solarpunk don’t feel very “graspable” if they’re too utopian… For me at least, gritty realism reaching towards the utopia is where Solarpunk finds/expresses its meaning best.

    • @alxd
      @alxd Před rokem +1

      Thank you - and I'm on the same page with the gritty realism! :) I loved the first half of "Walkaway" for that, I'm sad the book went in another direction.
      As for the SolariseCon, we don't have plans for this year, but I have some notes for possible panels and might interview the guests within the Solarpunk Prompts podcast!

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz Před rokem +1

      @@alxd Why are hieroglyphs important? Arent you just making an appeal to tradition? Just because it was the way it was done in the past and you somehow feel the past must have been better doesnt make it a good thing. A hieroglyph is nothing more than a visual representation of something that links it to an idea just like words are. You are making some feelings based connections that really need to be explained as to why they are actually important rather than just asserting that they must be.

    • @oscardunn8060
      @oscardunn8060 Před rokem

      @@alxd Thanks for the response! I’ll have to give Walkaway a read. And interviews with the Solarpunk Prompts podcast would be great!

  • @michaelriverside1139
    @michaelriverside1139 Před rokem

    In such a sense...
    Could Hey, Arnold! be considered a Solarpunk story?
    It's a rather introspective and melancholic story that doesn't simply focus on Arnold, but also on the people around him and the struggles they find in trying to co-exist with each other or even, despite each other, while also placing a small grain of sand for a better future such as the episode with the turtle or how the kids and adults transform a vacant lot into a playground!

  • @Sugar3Glider
    @Sugar3Glider Před rokem

    1:19:00 Jeff Vandermeer wrote Wonder Book: the guide to creating imaginative fiction

  • @tofer1000
    @tofer1000 Před rokem +2

    The whole thing about hieroglyphs got me thinking, for attempting to establish new hieroglyphs how far away should they feel? so the old si-fi thing about going into the cyberspace felt 100s of years of at the time. then you have tropes like implants that are still not common places, yet may have felt more tangible when they where first being proposed in the world of fiction. so i ask the question (or start the discussion) how far of things should the people shaping the mould that is solar punk be reaching? should we be writing about a space aged Eden Project, should it be a place that feels like a forest, but functions like a town hall? instead of the si-fi "super metal" should it be a amazing way of processing the soil to make it extremely fertile. perhaps instead of colonizing planets it should be restoring life to the bottom of the oceans where the pollutions is collecting?

  • @blub-tf6rt
    @blub-tf6rt Před 5 měsíci +1

    Please upload more content its amazing

  • @XX-de8jp
    @XX-de8jp Před rokem

    Orlen i Żabkas XDDDDD Thank you for this reference, that was a wink to polish viewers.

  • @TheEvilmonkey25
    @TheEvilmonkey25 Před rokem +1

    Hot take: Vinland Saga is top notch solar punk (set in the dark ages lol)

  • @OmarAAAA4444
    @OmarAAAA4444 Před rokem

    Yay hope

  • @thedoode7749
    @thedoode7749 Před rokem +2

    Could somebody make some kind of a reading list from the books mentioned? I have trouble hearing the names

    • @gewreid5946
      @gewreid5946 Před rokem +6

      A Half-Built Garden - Ruthanna Emrys
      Walkaway - Cory Doctorov
      Gamechanger - L.X. Beckett

    • @thedoode7749
      @thedoode7749 Před rokem

      ​@@gewreid5946 why thank you! This should be pinned imo but great work!

  • @N1ghthavvk
    @N1ghthavvk Před rokem +1

    I hadn't heard of Zoe and Bios yet, and I must say it is a very interesting concept to think about.
    Funnily enough I got recommended "world building" videos by YT in the sidebar next to this video.
    I've been writing fiction, which doesn't follow the usual hero's journey, usually including a passive or reactive protagonist. I'm just doing small stories, nothing big. Just to ... engage with the creative process on my own.
    It's an interesting point, that there is no "Lord of the Rings" of Solar Punk in the public eye, yet. I hope there will be a story that impacts us all the same way in the close future!
    Since "the West" is more individualistic, while "the East" is more collectivist (broadly speaking, due to Confucian roots), I can imagine the solar punk story of an upcoming transformation which we will have to go through together, may do much better published there first (and could spread better everywhere as a result).
    Other than that I found the point about fantasy being often about escapism on point. I'm not sure if authors use authoritarian regimes in their story because it is much easier to write (and antagonize) them, but I always liked stories that described not just a good rebellion against the evil overlords, but something more ... precise and nuanced, where no single person can be pointed out as being in the obvious wrong. It is also sometimes the case that a "good" authoritarian ruler will be part of the story and somehow be displayed as a much better alternative to even just our current democracies. I don't like when that happens, but not every book can point out or be about societal organization and its challenges.
    Challenging those current expectations and social norms though, as might be required from a solar punk story, is more the work of philosophers though, and you wouldn't expect them to necessarily write engaging stories. If the basic concept isn't sound, the story won't be good enough, so both of the expertises are required to create such a work (no, labor).
    This may be an obvious blind spot, but I'm not certain we will get such a story soon enough.

    • @gewreid5946
      @gewreid5946 Před rokem

      Do you share your stories somewhere publicly?
      I've been struggling with "story burnout" lately and am struggling with finding stuff to read that feels fresh, inspiring and opening new perspectives.

    • @N1ghthavvk
      @N1ghthavvk Před rokem

      @@gewreid5946 No, I am not (and I'm not interested in doing so as I am unsatisfied with the results so far - which is a combination of too little time and lacking skill).
      But I'd like to recommend branching out of your usual reading habits.
      Maybe try something else entirely, for example if you're usually reading historic novellas, how about going for a different kind of medium entirely and try .. I don't know, post-apocalyptic manhwa (comics from Korea)? Usually if you go for a change of pace in genre, it feels fresh. Especially if you change the medium, source, and possibly language too.
      You know what you're reading best and could find the most suitable switch for yourself :)
      Discovering new stories is as much about going out of our comfort zone as finding new friends can be.

    • @alxd
      @alxd Před rokem

      Thank you for your voice!
      > Since "the West" is more individualistic, while "the East" is more collectivist (broadly speaking, due to Confucian roots), I can imagine the solar punk story of an upcoming transformation which we will have to go through together, may do much better published there first (and could spread better everywhere as a result).
      In my own experiences, "The East" as in: China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea have their own problems with capitalism, neoliberalism and more. I personally would expect a new voice from the Global South, which still has a lot of values and narratives we haven't heard. The problem is: we're not publishing them ;)
      > I don't like when that happens, but not every book can point out or be about societal organization and its challenges.
      Pratchett played with that in his Discworld series, especially with Lord Vetinari. As you say: not going with the "default" monarchy + some capitalism in our fantasy is hard and very few authors are skilled enough AND willing to risk it.
      > If the basic concept isn't sound, the story won't be good enough, so both of the expertises are required to create such a work (no, labor).
      That's why the solarpunk anthologies have so much mixed reviews: you need both the philosophy and the ability to write a compelling story. Hopefully, as the movement gains traction, we will have more people interested in it and willing to try :)
      A question from me: how do you structure your stories without the hero's journey? Do you go with any other journey? Heroine? Collective? Something else?

    • @N1ghthavvk
      @N1ghthavvk Před rokem

      @@alxd Hm, I think about a premise of an interesting thought, e.g. (though not representatively) "What would you do, in a society where you're both omni-potent and all-knowing, will there be free will, or the ability to do criminal acts?" And then I add different characters, let them handle it from there, without a complete goal in mind. Basically writing an organic story, where all characters pursue their own goals, and the story is about how they interact together, navigating the situation as a whole.
      The problem I often encounter is that the story kind of mellows out, and there's no real structure to it. Might just be my bias, but it feels... for lack of a better word ... boring or chaotic, even though it engages me as I write. The upside is that I can continue writing forever, without running out of ideas. The story continues, just the actors change, or their goals do.
      This is, in the current industry, completely unpublishable though (I presume, I never checked - but since I wouldn't try publish them myself, its a self-fulfilling statement).

  • @thecardboardboxl3922
    @thecardboardboxl3922 Před rokem +2

    I love this video and Solarpunk, but I think a lot of the more philosophical concepts went over my head. I think I’ll just write for fun if that’s okay.

  • @hydrophobicbathtowel6816

    "Decimate" means to reduce by one tenth. It does not mean to completely or near completely destroy/kill. To decimate a group of 100 would be kill 10 and leave 90 still standing. Most people use this word to mean the opposite of what it means.

  • @tuberialolicon-tanuki6533

    -I remember participating in a hackaton, hearing this modern concept of hacker I assume Paweł was using, and I ended as confused as I am now. Like, you go outside and use tech, to solve problems!? That's wild! I can't begin to imagine that, I just query servers and place loading bars everywhere, all day. Just to not leave the story hanging, my team was supposed to be working with a journalist to develop a safety smartphone app, he disappeared shortly after the inauguration and we never finished the thing.
    -Why is violence the basic form of politics? I would think of politics as decision making in groups, but also think decisions imply economics, because without something limited in which is posible and necessary to impose collective will there is no decision to be made. So my reading would be that politics are technology, as in a previous video, moving stuff from the outside to the inside, and that process would be inherently violent? Like if we decide to design, build and rise a flag we impose over the materials, the space, and the other possibilities within our collective imagination I guess.
    -My english sucks and I couldn't distinguish where words start and end in section 3 because of the unfamiliar terms, also, am I alone in being incapable of remembering a recommendation 2 secs after they're done? Names and titles just don't stick in my brain. Talking about recommendations, If anyone has any about solarpunk in spanish I would love to hear them.

  • @kwisin1337
    @kwisin1337 Před rokem

    Very well presented, I have a funny feeling we are left with solar punk being a creative narrative that has yet to find the True followers... 😊

  • @ShiroHaru004
    @ShiroHaru004 Před rokem

    btw if i make it as artist i mean good artist pro then my personal project its gonna have for sure aspect of solar punk
    so wait till another 5 ears or less till something like that will start to inspire more artist
    so if i am correct solar punk will be mainstraem in 20 years damm i am gonna be old

  • @andrewchoi5808
    @andrewchoi5808 Před rokem +2

    Make earth humanity nature wildlife biodiversity environment ecosystems cities towns countries traditional modern 100% strong bright smart renewable ageless beautiful eco friendly green sustainable solarpunk immortal utopian resilient peaceful safer healthier anachronistic future

  • @emilebourget1088
    @emilebourget1088 Před rokem

    cool video

  • @javitel13
    @javitel13 Před rokem

    I don't understand how Kim Stanley Robinson is not brought up in this kind of discussions. I believe he has helped to introduce a lot of this ideas and narratives into a wider audience. Is he too mainstream and optimistic about the ability of capitalist institutions to be reformed under pressure? Maybe... But I'd say that his take on revolution vs reform, along his oeuvre, is quite complex. In any case, as a reader of LeGuin, Doctorow etc... I find it hard to understand how such a popular author that partakes in many of these ideas is not included in the conversation

    • @alxd
      @alxd Před rokem

      In short I abhor his take as extremely anti-Solarpunk. In his "Ministry for the Future" he starts with a right idea, then completely destroys it by giving more attention to Switzerland, not India. Not showing the real change-makers in the world, improving refugee camps, small towns all around the world, but instead promoting specific Zurich cafes. Hard pass from me, we need to imagine a different world, not just Swiss cakes.

  • @kain5056
    @kain5056 Před rokem +5

    About the Rowling video, would it be easier to just add English subtitles to the Polish video as a middle solution? I can't speak for everyone, bus as English is not my first language I'm pretty used to subtitles and wouldn't mind watching your Polish video lika that.

    • @ricos1497
      @ricos1497 Před rokem +2

      I'll second that request! It may even help with my understanding of the Polish language, increasing my vocabulary from zero words to some.

    • @t3essays
      @t3essays  Před rokem +4

      Huh, that sounds like a plan!

  • @mirio846
    @mirio846 Před rokem

    nice move

  • @mainlawtheguykujo9250

    Ok, thought a bit about it. First of all thanks for the great content, it glued some things together in my head. About my climate project. I will still be using one of "Our Changing Climate's" video as inspiration. However it seems this video will become inspiration as well. Any broad tips for subjects? I know these people and don't have problems speaking in from of 30 people. I'm trying to make it understandable and open source.

  • @234edog
    @234edog Před rokem

    I have a question, does it stop being solarpunk if instead of humans, they’re human animal hybrid? There’s also solar powered nano-machines (the same ones which brought humanity up to this point)

  • @mainlawtheguykujo9250

    Greetings again

  • @gabrielsilbert1144
    @gabrielsilbert1144 Před rokem

    Does anyone have sources for the story about what happened in Sierra Leone? I can’t find anything about it online.

    • @t3essays
      @t3essays  Před rokem

      Added to the description! You can also check Paweł's post here: alxd.org/solarpunk-lenses-and-foundations.html#solarpunk-lenses-and-foundations

  • @austindenny7094
    @austindenny7094 Před rokem

    i think we're just zoes who think they are bios, but the thinking itself is zoean in nature

  • @bgiv2010
    @bgiv2010 Před rokem

    I love imagining a world before the first "Western thought"

  • @DeathToMockingBirds
    @DeathToMockingBirds Před rokem

    I rewinded many times and tried to hear the titles of the books. The one arount 1:37:00, sounds really interesting, but I cant hear the title or author.

  • @theoheinrich529
    @theoheinrich529 Před rokem

    real

  • @astesvideos
    @astesvideos Před rokem

    I loved this video. If it was that you could turn this into an infography, to download and remember the points. But yes. Diversity. Always felt the depictions on movies are so boring cuz they are so foreign to me. Im from Chile

  • @otakarbeinhauer
    @otakarbeinhauer Před rokem +1

    Zoe / Zelda? Was that a reference to Bojack Horseman or is it a real concept?

  • @matiasbascunan8051
    @matiasbascunan8051 Před rokem +1

    I write sci fi, but it's mostly depressing and pessimistic. I've only gotten into solarpunk recently, but I'm having a hard time changing my perspective on the future. I've always felt we are beyond saving, that the damage is done, both environmentally and psychologically. I'm trying to switch to solarpunk, but it's still difficult for me to write hopeful stories without them feeling forced on disingenuous. Thanks for the video, it has made me question my work and approach and look for alternative paths and stories.

    • @UltraChongkak
      @UltraChongkak Před 8 měsíci

      It's not nearly over. An inspiration should be the current Chernobyl site. A lush animal paradise.

  • @alexandermolberg5577
    @alexandermolberg5577 Před 9 měsíci

    Elon Musk is more like Cave Johnson than Iron Man

  • @elveone
    @elveone Před rokem +3

    Here's a point of view from someone who is not really familiar with solarpunk apart from the few short and not-so-short videos on this channel.
    Generally I think people are more into cyberpunk and dystopias instead of solarpunk and utopias for a simple reason - it is easy to imagine a utopia and poke wholes in it until it turns into a dystopia than to create a fool-proof utopia where it is not possible for a person to manipulate his way onto a place of power and use it for his own advantage. That is doubly true after the fall of communism which was supposed to be a somewhat utopian society to begin with. It is easy to see how idealistic ideas can be perverted into something truly reprehensible.
    Another problem with solarpunk is that it seems like a feel-good post-apocalyptic fiction without an actual apocalypse. A lot of the themes of a different society model is discussed in that type of fiction(and other types of sci-fi) and it is a place to suggest solutions to potential problems that we are going to face in the future. Furthermore post-apoc can be more focused on a particular problem and suggest solutions for it rather than a widespread approach to solve all of our impending problems. Solarpunk also seems more unrealistic than post-apoc because people need to come to work together without an actual apocalypse to unite them.
    I'm also sorry to say that some of the ideas of solarpunk just seem plainly boring and kind of underserving of the name "punk". Sure, a devious rich guy donating laptops infected by malware is more interesting than a pedophile group of hackers that hacks the webcams but at the same time going to the police to convince them to check PCs for spyware is not the most enticing of plot lines. And it is also not "punk" at all. Punk is all about the rebel characters that do not fit within the society and have to work outside of it in order to fix a problem even if that problem is the society's structure overall. A character has to rebel against something if he is to be a rebel, a punk. If the character asks the authorities to help and they agree or ask for further assistance then the character is not a rebel at all. And if they disagree and the character goes on on their own to solve the problem then we are falling into the cyberpunk genre with the uncooperative authorities and high tech solutions to the problems.
    And unfortunately the authorities in the real world are not really that cooperative to begin with and will wait until the final possible moment to allow a change to the status quo. I don't really think that cyberpunk has desensitized people to violence and that it revels in a struggle without a real end-goal. I think that the world we live in has started to seem like those novels that were once a warning of a future that we did not want to become real and that people are unfortunately as cruel and as selfish as those novels predicted them to be. Protagonists in cyberpunk do try to create something great and productive but in that fiction the struggle with the forces that be seems to be a lot more realistic than the sensibilities of solarpunk.
    Perhaps I misunderstand fundamentally what solarpunk is but perhaps those musings might provide an outsiders perspective on the genre.

    • @Vaeldarg
      @Vaeldarg Před rokem

      IMO, Solarpunk is a view of a future in which a near-apocalypse occurs after humanity ignored all the warning signs. It feels like a reaction to Climate Change, that selfish established entities have ignored (or actively misinformed the public about, despite knowing the results of their own internal studies of what the effect would be), which even includes the scenario of the "Doomsday Glacier" (the Thwaites Glacier) raising sea levels world-wide if it breaks off Antarctica (which due to new research, seems to be pretty precariously close to doing sooner than expected...). Nature, likely through the effects of Climate Change, teaches humanity the hard way about maintaining a sustainable balance. By that point, lifestyle change is forced because the alternative is eventual extinction. From those lessons, Solarpunk arises.

    • @InfernoVor
      @InfernoVor Před rokem

      This is also my problem with it. It feels like an unattainable future, at least for the present populace. A lot of people are used to the current system and survive off it and all the people in power thrive in it. Changing it would mean breaking that and people honestly don't care that much for others or if they do they are a minority. Otherwise we'd see tax money being invested into solving a lot more problems than they are. Like developing africa, health(america being the prime example for this one since they're one of the richest countries with the shittiest social programs) or focusing on developing solutions instead of drying up our current system until the last moment.
      Solarpunk feels like a lot of people gathering to discuss feel-good ideas to keep their spirit up. Because there are a lot of ideas but they really aren't realistic considering how we operate and have operated until now.

    • @InfernoVor
      @InfernoVor Před rokem

      Even democracy was created to be a sort of utopia, the people choose so they can live better. At the point we're in we all already know all the problems in it. Even if you choose the most righteous person to lead and implement ideas who says they won't change after acquiring so much power.

  • @falsificationism
    @falsificationism Před rokem

    Thanks for mentioning Peter Coffin's atrocious take near the end. Good to feel validated...nearly everything he said was upside down.
    There's a strain of people out there who really really really just don't care to think past the way a word sounds "degrowth" "veganism" "doing the MMT" to consider reasonable proposals and strategies for the future.
    There's a family of things that have a good chance of working and other ideas that are more speculative. The whole point is that we kindly consider and experiment with the ideas we're sharing and then move forward once we find things that work.
    We're barely at the hieroglyph stage. That's comforting I guess.

  • @cheweperro
    @cheweperro Před rokem

    Maggie may's video where?

  • @NANA-dd4fl
    @NANA-dd4fl Před 9 měsíci

    solarpunk is a bit to fantasy for me.... i like the same vibe but nuclear punk.

  • @grayturtle9173
    @grayturtle9173 Před 11 měsíci

    No need to bash cyberpunk which did the immensely important step of pointing out why you would want solarpunk in the first place. Cyberpunk wants the same thing it's just written in the nihilism of the older art movement.

  • @hydrangeadragon
    @hydrangeadragon Před rokem

    true, but i still want anything to do with nuclear, it's too big of a risk and we have fusion energy now anyway which is much safer

    • @alxd
      @alxd Před rokem +2

      Well, we don't have a viable fusion today (despite what the startups say). What we should be looking into though are en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor , which might theoretically be used to "burn out" the current radioactive waste. If we could make it 100, 1000 times less radioactive, while generating energy at that, this might be a very Solarpunk solution - I'm working on a Prompt based on that.

    • @apoorhorseabusedbycenk
      @apoorhorseabusedbycenk Před rokem +1

      Nuclear can be walk away safe with laughable small nuclear waste which can be stored on human time scales. But people want their shiny green tech to feel good never mind you need 100000 aces compared to nuclear's 50

    • @YourCapyBra_3Dpipesa90sspecial
      @YourCapyBra_3Dpipesa90sspecial Před rokem

      You'll change your mind once you hear all the facts

  • @asrielgoddard8
    @asrielgoddard8 Před rokem +4

    I love the videos you guys make, and I really enjoyed this one, although it was very exhausting to watch.
    You presented new (to me at least) and often very complex ideas which is really nice, but you choose to only present them via monologue. A very very long monologue.
    This makes it incredibly hard to follow and keep up with all the topics you discuss, which is why I wanted to suggest a few things to you, as well as Paweł :
    1. Make the videos shorter: Most people will just click away once they see a video is over an hour long. And since many of the topics you talked about are built on each other, but were still contained in themselves it may be smarter to upload them as a series instead. But you should also try to maybe cut out some bits and condese a bit more where you're comfortable with.
    2. Give us something to look it: It doesn't really matter what it is, but most people don't just learn through audio. When playing piano I for example need to SEE someone else press the right keys to learn a new song. Some graphics, mind maps, maybe even just lists of bullet points would have made this video much much easier to watch and understand. (the little drawings you did in past videos are nice for a short ammount of time, but the more information you through at us the less "interesting" they become as the visual medium of telling that information)
    3. Make summaries: For the past 5 years I've worked part time as a private tutor in sever school subjects and had many pupils between 10 and 20 years old. And from my experience I cannot understate how helpful summaries after different talking points within a topic can be. At the End of Part V in your video i had already forgotten what you talked about in the first five minutes of that very part and had to go back to feel as though I could really follow where you were going. These summaries don't need to be long, most of the time just rehearsing what current goal you were argueing for, how you did that, and where you came from in one or two sentences is enough.
    4. Add some BGM: Doesn't have to be anything super fancy like the Epic Mountain compositions made individually for every Kurzgesagt video, but maybe just some copyright free lofi stuff, some piano climpering or whatever. It helps get emotionally invested in the topics you're talking about and makes the videos feel less "dry", like a long and exhausting Uni-lecture.
    Someone in the comments wrote that they listened to this while drawing, which is nice for them of course, but I believe that the ideas you discuss deserve to be "Main Monitor Content". You just need to make them a tiny bit more engaging, and less like frontal teaching.
    Anyway, thx for the Upload and have a nice day.

  • @davieb8216
    @davieb8216 Před 5 měsíci

    I'll have to listen to all the videos again. But I never hear how systems other than capitalism deal with incentives and controlling demand in a globally competitive world. I just remember you saying that other systems don't have the answers because the asterisks haven't been figured out yet cause it's not happening. If anyone from the comments can point me to the right place/video that would be good.

  • @janmamu8721
    @janmamu8721 Před rokem +2

    first?

    • @namethathasntbeentakenyetm3682
      @namethathasntbeentakenyetm3682 Před rokem

      seems so

    • @EnderGrad
      @EnderGrad Před rokem +3

      You will become spineless in approximately 3 minutes and 23 seconds

    • @TheEvilmonkey25
      @TheEvilmonkey25 Před rokem

      @@EnderGrad thei will regain theis spine immediatly thereafter and not notice anything changed

    • @shefchenko111
      @shefchenko111 Před rokem

      @@EnderGrad :D:D

    • @t3essays
      @t3essays  Před rokem +9

      First indeed, please provide updates on your spine status, as we're worried

  • @LaurinkoSattumaa
    @LaurinkoSattumaa Před rokem

    Good stuff until NNs. That take was rather naive imo

  • @mattlegge8538
    @mattlegge8538 Před rokem

    Can you please consider joining odysee? I am trying to move away from youtube, but your content is really really good

    • @Philonix
      @Philonix Před rokem

      i feel like Peertube is more solarpunk,, it lives in the Fediverse, so it can connect to others servers running the same and simeral software

    • @Philonix
      @Philonix Před rokem

      ow and it fits/connects with Mastodon what they already use

  • @rayvertti
    @rayvertti Před rokem

    where the memes go

    • @t3essays
      @t3essays  Před rokem +3

      For the winter break, they'll be back next time! (Trying to put them in would delay the vid by like 2 weeks minimum.)

  • @BaronElBardo
    @BaronElBardo Před rokem

    Hmmm jeroglífics... Do you mean... Semiotic Sign?????