‘The constitution doesn’t even mention immunity’: Judge Luttig reacts to Trump Immunity claim
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- Former Federal Judge Michal Luttig joins Nicolle Wallace on Deadline White House to react to the arguments made by Donald Trump and his legal team to the Supreme Court that a President has absolute immunity for any acts he commits while President and why it has no basis in even the Constitution.
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A Supreme Court enabling an Insurrectionist should be removed immediately per the 14th Amendment, then referred to the DOJ for charges! Period!
The United States government has turned MAGA we are doomed 😮
Their positions are theirs only for good behavior. Read Article III.
please indicate where he was charged for 'insurrection' and proven guilty?
I've seen more damage at a frat party.
Speaking of which, what's going on at the universities at the moment? Building walls and such. Interesting times!
@@paramaniacwolverine843 YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY A LIAR.
It's all a part of the slow motion coup. All of that from 2020 is still underway.
Thank you, Judge Luttig, a pity you aren’t a member of the Supreme Court.
he's the og of anti-abortion judges.
@@nonya.bizness All I can say to that is nobody’s perfect. I would feel better all the same if his assessment of Trump’s claim was the Court’s final decision in this case.
If enough vote blue he may be put in after next election.Three dem. judges need to be installed so that scotus works again.Or two and impeach Thomas.
@@normthompson923 He's 70 years old now - any new appointments need to be much younger, or the SC could end up with another Republican stooge.
listen also to george conway's take, he has somewhat a different take.. after listening to the hearing i understand now why there is a need for this.. 3 equal branches of government.. i realized the scotus is actually following due process..
Thank you Justice Jackson , for stating things in a reality based way.
Agreed she is staying the straight up obviousness of how stupid their argument is
But she doesn't call her colleagues out on their BS. She is just as bad..
@@mvp1116 Unfortunately, she can't be at war with her peers whom she may have to work with for 20+ years barring the unforeseen. There is a way to engage in intellectual warfare with calling people out directly. She did that.
@@mvp1116 You really don't think that her questions qualify as calling them out by pointing out the obvious that they all should already have in mind?? Interesting... I thought she did exactly that without being blunt about it.
So absurd that the court would even consider this.
why
asking for immunity ... while claiming to be innocent ?
Common sense which many (some on SCOTUS) lack.
Not quite, but keep saying this because it's cute!
And also claiming that the current president who trump claims is crooked, would get off scott free.
There is no inconsistency in that. Immunity is a defense to prosecution. It is in no way an admission of guilt.
@@swimminginthoughtsMY GIRLFRIEND SYBIL HAS A CUTE TRILL WHEN SHE SINGS!🤬
Only the Guilty and Criminals need or want absolute immunity.
Well that is obvious to anyone with a brain
@@jameswheeler349 That discounts 70 million MAGATS!
wrong
@@jamesdouthat3999 no, actually it’s absolutely correct. Sorry.
@@jamesdouthat3999 I'm sure you hear that a lot.
I still can’t believe this went to the Supreme
The real question is why does it matter if they were Official or Private acts! If you break the law, you break the law!! The rest of us don't get to hide behind our jobs?
but trump wants to
President Truman didn't shirk from his responsibility as President. He had a motto on his desk that said 'the buck stops here'.
Unless you are a cop
Excellent point!
"The law" as you refer to it, is created by Congress, which means that under this theory, they could revoke every single authority and duty of the President regardless of what the Constitution says. The next time the president and Congress are controlled by the same party, at the end of his term, the next president can be castrated and made to serve solely at the discretion of the party in control of Congress.
You _really_ want to be careful what you wish for. Since Biden has ordered those who exercise his authority to ignore and wilfully violate the law, and dismantled the tools that proved successful at enforcing the law, there is a whole lot of room to prosecute him for his absolute disregard for enforcing immigration laws among others.
You can not simultaneously argue that Mayorkas is just following orders, so shouldn't face any penalties _and_ that the man who gave those orders can't be, either. You can not simultaneously argue that Trump has no immunity, but Biden does. You have no right to complain if the principles you try to put in place for your enemy are used against your ally. If the government is weaponized against Trump, it will most assuredly be weaponized against "your guy" in the not too distant future. The Democrats in congress have pulled the "nuclear option" and had it used against them the next term enough times to prove that once you pull a weapon, the same becomes available to your opponent.
jUDGE lUTTIG, IS A TRUE PATRIOT, MAY GOD BLESS HIM.
FRFR 🙌 Just a Great Human Being, *PERIODT*
For F#*ks sake don't use tRumps Bible.
Don't forget to give Justice Brown her props.
Yo girl ripped this theory of complete immunity to shreds.
He’s also, like Bob Woodward, very much chicken of Trump
@@ray-sharp8563
@ least he's
*NOT* sitting on
*VITAL INFO* the public
*NEEDS/NEEDED @ THAT TIME* just to sale books 🤦🙄🤨
I feel so helpless when the Supreme Court won’t protect us citizens from their own government! 😢
Your tears are hiarious 🤣
They have owners.
"Elections have consequences"
Barack Obama
2009
@@kenc7120I think they're delicious.
Thank you to Ruth Buzzy Ginsberg
Anyone with small children knows that whining about imaginary cheating, is the last resort of the sore loser.
- Senator Elisabeth Warren
Only a criminal would want “absolute immunity”.
Fool
And why Putin and Xi and Kim have their food tested.
Stop being so hateful and judgmental- Don't throw stones you may hit your cousin
Or plead dementia
We are asking this corrupt supreme court to rule on this issue???? F~!
We didn’t ask. They took it up. After the 3rd Circuit decision. Which is solid.
Shame shame shame on this Court!
@Avalon,
O, yes. And the SC judges will personally carry Trump into the White House, and make sure that the freezers are crammed with the most unhealthy food. As per Emperor's decree.
yep 🙄🤦
@@Nothingbutlovehere369 and now it's likely to go back to the lower court for clarification. This is liek bringing your mother a dead bird and she has no idea what it is, so she tells you to go show your grade school teacher in the morning- maybe she knows. Ridiculous!
@@eclipsehorse8693
But it may be that the lower courts in this case have more sense. In these days of uncertainty who knows?
To those of us claiming common sense, this case should have never been heard .
Have a great day.
Why did't they ask if the potus could just get rid of the supreme court ? Or were they afraid to ask that?
Outstanding comment.
Except for Justice Jackson
In effect the Court's "conservatives" (they're actually right-wing radicals) are saying the POTUS can just ignore the courts.
Yup, if he is re-elected by some dark miracle then SCOTUS will be the first to go.
Good point. If SC gives Trump immunity, Biden should replace the entire Supreme Court
Absolute immunity? Nope. But absolute INSANITY? Yes.
Article 2 says the President “shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed”, in other words: any UNlawful act would fall outside the bounds of the Office and therefore CANNOT be an OFFICIAL act - i.e., an act falling within the scope and responsibilities of the Office.
Assassinating a US citizen is an unlawful act. But Obama did exactly that using a drone strike. When will he be prosecuted?
I guess police officers are committing the crime of kidnapping when arresting someone.
Oh, you're using logic and textual meaning! That's not how this court works.
You are right. The insanity of this argument is glaring at us.
We get the "special" Court.
No one is above the law
If Presidents or ex-Presidents have absolute immunity , then why was Nixon pardoned by President G. Ford ?
🤔🤔🤔🤔
Something to think about....
Quid pro quo, imo. Ford was a reliable GOP hack throughout his career. But your point is well taken. Sans pardon, Nixon was certain to be prosecuted.
The same reason Nixon accepted that pardon (which is an admission of guilt). Nixon KNEW he'd be charged AND convicted.
@@eatmorenachos which according to Trump's legal team isn't possible , coz Nixon also wasn't impeached .
Great question
I feel sorry for Judge Luttig. Like us he must be dismayed this is even a thing. More so, given his conservative credentials, his deep knowledge of the law, and his obvious love for the Constitution. Like another comment has pointed you, if SCOTUS grants immunity, then it's over for this country.
Yes but like so many his faith in the system has kept him and many others from seeing what was happening not just in the dark but in broad daylight for decades.
Finally I saw something about trying to impeach 1 of the justices.
Talk about a group of people who have been treated like they are above the law.
There were red flags on many of the justices that got appointed.
If we loose our democracy it has been a group effort.
And one of the key reasons is GOP appointed judges
It is over! This court is corrupt. Most appointed by McConnell who as the senate leader also refused to impeach Trump twice!!
Doesn't even matter what the Constitution Says with This supreme. court.
They are there to protect Republicans from the constitution
Real "originalists" want to write the constitution as if it never existed (hypothetically speaking, that is).
Such a sad & pathetic time in our country
Judge Ludig would make a good Supreme Court justice.
he's the og anti-abortion judge.
Can't be worse than the Trump appointees
@@jimreily7538 we deserve scotus justices that are excellent, not people that are least worse.
Thank you Judge Luttig for your wise and measured words.
We did put a criminal in the oval office in 2016.
The "poorly educated" did.
I didn't the people he con did the poorly uneducated and they are so stuck on stupid that they can't see that they are being used
And the poorly educated did to they are stuck on stupid to
@@mrmark8603 "well sheee-it we thought we wuz doin good- he told us he's gunna git ridda tyhe mess-icans and build the wawl, and git tuff on chai-na...we though he wuz onna us! He told us stuff we wunted at heer, and he riled us up and made us feel gud about ah-mer-ika...'
I sure as 💩didn’t!! My republican mother in law and husband both voted for Hillary so they didn’t….
If SCOTUS grants Presidential immunity, then I think I'll run for President and if I win I'll just deposit $1 trillion from the Treasury into my account and then resign.😂
You wouldn’t win. Don’t quit your burger flipping job.
The problem with this is that you're going by the media's propaganda version of what immunity means in this case, not what is actually going on.
Yeah but here's the thing, you've never won a thing in your life. We see you
Imagine he is making a joke point. It is a good one. Point is this is all BS.
There is no immunity.
@@tlee4218 If there isn't, then dont be angry when pretty much all living former presidents are jailed.
Im so glad Biden appointed Justice Jackson, she has shown her intellect and righteous disposition places her in upper ranks, among her peers on Supreme Court.
SCOTUS, tame this man or he will DEVOUR you!
@alandonly,
"SCOTUS, tame this man or he will DEVOUR you!"
Jabba the Orange Hut already did.
SCOTUS tames this man?
How would that be possible?
6 of them are puppets and he's their puppeteer!
Yup, a dictator has zero use for a Supreme Court.
@@alinuernberg8399 Correct. Unless they're shrewd and power-hungry enough to know he'll target them soon enough.
He will devour the USA
The Supreme Court need to be overhauled
When will the senate act?
Is Supreme Court going to save democracy or corruption.??
Depends on the vacation packages, they got.
This question is a rhetoric oxymoron.
God help us if democracy doesn't prevail
they better or they should be charged with failing to do their job because of their biased actions because trump chose them to be on the bench for his benefit, which trump even said is why he put them there, they owe him BS
A few on the S. Ct. are corruption themselves. Corruption always protects corruption.
There is no absolute immunity, and in this case, definitely not!
isnt asking for it
It already was the seat of criminality with Trump in it. That is why we are here.
TOTALLY ABSOLUTELY.. LOVE YOUR COMMENT ❤
FANTASTIC, and TRUE comment. EXACTLY
waiting for the cultist to jump on this and talk about how bad JB is running everything. If you don't want trump remember how to vote, because he will get all his cultist to vote for him.
You Nailed it!!! Too!!!
Really , they need to keep up ! Thanks .
I believe it was Alito who said “I want Abstract! I don’t want the facts!” Are you kidding me??? 😮
If the SC gives Trump immunity, it’s all over.
If they give Trump immunity, they give Biden immunity.
They can wait until after the election, but Trump can't win.
Well Donald Trump or Damian Thorn whichever you prefer to call him it's not a coincidence same initials and number of letters because they are one and the same so yeah it's over
No, we can elect a congress that will impeach each of the Supreme Court justices that vote that Trump has immunity.
Drama queen much?
Right. Maybe 2 years, maybe 20, but it’d be over. Other countries would lose faith, our stabilising force would evaporate, we’d lose the confidence of our allies, and sorry kids, history repeats on a grander scale. End of the world as we know it (and I don’t feel fine).
This shouldn't have to be an issue.
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!
No one is above the law..
The President on inauguration solemnly swears to faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and to the best of their ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. This solemn oath would be rendered meaningless if the President was granted immunity.
Sadly, it was rendered meaningless once Donald Trump was elected to office ... but your point is well made!
There is NO immunity in the constitution for anyone.
If you remove accountability to the people, you guarantee there will be no obligation to the people.
I'm absolutely terrified about the possibility of a bloodbath if he is not convicted. The only way out of this is to vote blue no matter who. 💙💙
❤️TRUMP 2024❤️
@@edpeterson2293BIDEN 2024
This time around the FBI, DOJ and law enforcement all over will be keeping an eye out for violent chatter on-line. They'll know to take it seriously and be prepared. Last time we were caught off guard because that had never happened in America before. Trump purposefully had only a handful of police around and Jan. 6th. Plus, some of his insurrectionists are still in jail. Maybe new ones won't be so willing to go to jail for him.
Vote Biden/blue save our democracy.
@@edpeterson2293President Joe Biden for 2024 💙💙💙💙 and stinky DJT for prison 2024 😂😂
@@d.scottgalloway515 enjoy your endless wars.
This was never an issue until this clown came into office, the closest it ever came was with Reagan and the Contra band scandal and even Oliver North knew to take the fall for him SMH
I can't believe the Supreme Court agreed to hear this Argument.
They are so full of themselves. They think, not only are they above the law, they ARE the law.
This is not a Supreme Court. It is McConnell's court of subordinates.
"The Constitution doesn't say who determines if someone committed insurrection so we can't do anything"
"The Constitution doesn't say anything about presidential immunity so we're going to make up our own law"
Funny how easily they can go either way depending soley on how it can help Trump.
That and corruption seem to be the goals of SCOTUS.
Insurrections are armed and very carefully planned. Read instead of watching TV / pedowood movies
Maddening but not funny.
Good point! It shows what a sham this process is - it's certainly not about the law.
During Trump's second impeachment, his own impeachment lawyer Bruce Castor argued the DOJ could prosecute Trump after he left office.
He has no immunity - and he, his lawyers, and SCOTUS knows it.
Innocent people don't claim absolute immunity from prosecution.
I wish Judge Luttig was on SCOTUS to keep all those unruly under-educated GOP kids in line.
SCOTUS needs to read (or re read) the Constitution.
They don't care. They are corrupt.
@@jameswheeler349 I believe you are correct sir.
I think America does.
We celebrate the 4 of july every year why doesn't that include a little civics like reading the declaration and the constitution.
Our nation's documents are not that long.
Why don't we just clear out a seat on the supreme court, for Harlan Crow and Leonard Leo, the Russian plants in our govt..
I don’t think they are guided by the Russians, but they are useful for the Russians.
The Leonard Leo network is more a manifestation of the Billionaire Plutocracy.
The Koch, Thiel, Schwab, Musk, Murdoch, Sachs association.
Justice Jackson is the only one with a brain!! ❤
of the none, she felt like she was the only one vested in the argument on that day, and the other 8 were gioing thru the motions for appeanace sake. man if I were on that bench, I'd want to know why i was trying to give a preseident immunity for the acts he committed, and want to hear how they pertain to the case. The other 7-8 justices just didn't seem they were all that into hearing about 'little Donny's fight on the playground'
“When you are given immunity, that means you probably committed a crime,” Michael Flynn, then an aide on Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, said on Meet the Press in September 2016, the Washington Post reports.
I don't know much about this Michael Flynnn except those comments you've just posted, but he sounds he was absolutely right, and surely he's a very sensible and rational man. Distinguished, scholarly and erudite, just the sort of man who'd be a sound and sober Presidential advisor.
why have a oath of office if you dont have to keep your your oath, simple logic,
Didn't the Washington DC Appellate Court already given her answer with respect to this question? The 57 page document seemed to have been praised by Constitutional experts.
Judge Luttig should have been on the Supreme Court.
Presidential Immunity is a direct equivalent of Fuhrerprinzip.
Donald Trump should be in prison
For?
Thank you Judge Luttig. ❤
Judge LUTTIG is a man who stands by America, the constitution and the rule of law
This man should have been nominated to the Supreme Court. A conservative *with integrity… AND a brain*! I don’t consider myself a conservative, but I demand integrity on SCOTUS.
Robert’s court is not trust worthy! Shame….
No more Nixon like behavior and no more Rump's psychotic lying!! 😜 😜
I hope Judge Chutkan will accept the challenge from the lawless justices who vote to remand the immunity question in any form to her. She should issue a swift, unapologetic and forceful opinion that the Constitution does not contemplate, much less require, any immunity for a president, former or current, for any crime. She should refuse to make any determination on any charge regarding the official acts, private acts or the ridiculous "periphery" acts formulation. She should force them to go on record as to whether they are authoritarian, political hacks in robes or actual justices of the Supreme Court.
It's only a criminal who knows he is guilty would raise the question of any kind of immunity much less "absolute immunity ".
Judge Luttig I love you you’re a man of truth & honor. I hope and pray all of your work is fruitful 🙏💜
Thank you, Judge Ludwig! We need honorable people like you on the Supreme Court.
I wish he was on High Court!!
I wonder how many times since the creation of SC that their integrity has come into question?
How do these justices internally justify not adhering to the Constitution?
How do we not have anything in place for when the SC blatantly snub their noses at conflict of interest and for padding their incomes with gifts? Also, when the SC does not apply the rule of law as stated in constitution, how is that ok and we just plug along like nothing to see here?
It’s confusing and frightening. Do we even need them if they are not doing their job for the American people and judge like it’s the Wild West?
Dear God, Please help us.
I thought he helped those that helped themselves.
So sad that the court even took up the case
They took it up because Trump wants delay , delay and more delay because he appears not to be able defend himself against the real evidence against him .
Why has it never been needed or used before ?
The Americans have a choice on who they want in power.
Just saying . Any Republican that wishes to remain in politics after the Spcl. Elections of late oughta consider why they are losing .
Gotta love Justice Jackson❤❤❤she tells it like it IS‼️
The fact that a man who's a clear and present danger, a traitor, a wannabe dictator is allowed to run for president of the USA is just mind-blowing.
Justice Jackson - the voice of reason.
It would be regrettable for the nation if the Supreme Court Justices were to act inappropriately. The courts should remain impartial and ensure that the laws of the Constitution are upheld. Their primary function is to enforce the law, not to create new laws.
Basically what honorable Judge Luttig is saying, is that Scotus is so far off track they aren't abiding by the US Constitution. And that if he were the judge receiving this remand, maybe he would just send it back to Scotus saying "there is no immunity in the US Constitution -- go fish."
Absolute power can result in absolute corruption.
He is entitled to nothing as he is now a regular citizen
It's absurd that this is the subject of debate. Of COURSE no one should be immune from prosecution...
This kangaroo supreme Court is out of there mind fact!!!
Judge Jackson👏👏👏👏👏
Black women will save us all from MAGA. Vote blue on the whole ticket.
REAL JUDGE LUTTIG!!!
Just hearing this case gives it an air of seriousness it actually lacks.
I truly believe in Karma, and you can bet she's looking right at our Supreme Court justices.
Simple. The Constitution says that States have full control over the elections in each state. Any contact with any state facility or state representative or election worker of any kind it is illegal, no immunity.
Thank you Judge Luttig✨🇺🇸✨💙✨
Thank you Judge Jackson.✨🇺🇸✨💙✨
The equal protections provided by the constitution for State and Federal law should nullify immunity, or provide it to everyone.
Funny I’ve never saw abortion in the Constitution either?
Please do not post facts contrary to the Democrat narrative here. Will you delete this or edit it to call Trump a fascist or something?
@@swimminginthoughtsno but Privacy is and a persons body is directly related to their privacy.
@@nnanna1439 Q: Can you voluntarily have any limbs removed by a surgeon without medical necessity?
Michael, sugarplum, all males should be forced to get vasectomies and not cause unwanted pregnancies to begin with otherwise mind your business.
@@DisaffectedLiberal not the same but nice try.
Justice Jackson, you are absolutely right on. You realize that no one is above the law. Full stop.
I really love and respect you Justice Jackson!!!
It doesn’t mention abortion either.
It doesn’t mention cars, computers, or TikTok but here we are.
It does mention lifetime choices to personal dignity and autonomy central to liberty, which is in the 14th ammendment.
@@mackjrbell7828 But not abortion.
@@Simo-nk1oq You're not clever, let's not split hairs. It doesn't mention cancer neither but a diagnosis and treatment is still no one's business but the patient and doctor's.
@@mackjrbell7828 There's a HYOOGE difference between cancer and ending a human life.
THE CONSTITUTION DOESN'T MENTION STORMY DANIELS OR MY GIRLFRIEND SYBIL!🤬
And he wasn’t the president then anyway
Of course its come to pass, one of the smartest constitutionalists in history. Judge Luttig is making history. !! Love to see Prof. Tribe more as well...
The only thing Trump can really claim is Absolute Imbecility.
That’s been my point
The constitution doesn’t mention immunity
The SCOTUS is supposed to interpret laws in comparison to the constitution
There is no law giving immunity
The SCOTUS has nothing to do with this question
Thank you Judge Luttig, I value your opinion so much.
Thank you Nicole for inviting him back.
At least we can rely on Judge Thomas to base his judgement on objective analysis and not on unwavering...blind allegiance to the man -child....
in Uncle Thomas's case it isn't loyalty to the man-child it is loyalty to the cash cow
You're kidding, right? Clarence Thomas has been corrupt his whole tenure on the SC!
The Supreme Court, delay flavor of the week.
It's insanity that the supreme court even are arguing the point of absolute immunity for Trum
I like how the judge refers to Trump as " the former President'...Trump must hate that!
The constitution doesn't mention abortion.
The Constitution doesn't mention badminton either.
Nor, surprisingly enough, does it mention television, nuclear weapons, electricity, Islam, political parties, women, etc., etc., etc. And yet it has been applied to disputes involving all these things. It's funny that way.
it doesn't need to be, at the time of the writing it was legal and women had the right and it was well known to be an issue between the woman and her doctor. Regardless, we amend the constitution to meet our times so Dems know what they now have to do when they have the house and senate back.
@markkozlowski3674
For the most part, the Supreme Court has done a pretty good job in interpreting the Constitution.
@@pauljasmine353 It depends who you ask.
Thank you president Trump for your great Supreme Court, the greatest gift to America
😅😅😅
Remember it works both ways, if Trump is Immune, then Biden can stay in office until death and pass the Presidency to Harris. No actions can be taken. Then Biden can go after his enemies like Trump and have him taken out. Fair is fair!
3 scoops baby!! 🍨
trump’s LYING JUSTICES ARE NOT, AMERICA’S GREATEST GIFT!!! TRUELY YOU DO NOT KNOW, HISTORY!!!
*Exactly!* And the sole remit of the Supreme Court of the United States is to determine whether a law is constitutional, or not. Period.
If the justices were to weigh in on Trump's absurd motion asserting immunity, rather than sending the case back to the lower court (Which is what Trump wants anyway. Delay. Delay. Delay.), then that would be the very definition of an activist court.
Congress passes legislation. The President's signature makes legislation the law of the land. The courts enforce the law, with the SCOTUS as the final arbiter of the constitutionality of said laws. The SCOTUS ruling on presidential immunity would be a violation of the separation of powers.
Now, as to arguments before the court, Justice Brown-Jackson nails it: That, with the knowledge of immunity and protection from prosecution once out of office, a president would be unhindered from making the Oval Office the seat of criminality for the nation.
There's also been a lot of discussion about official vs. unofficial acts, and that Congress and impeachment are intended to be the final check on presidential misconduct. To be sure, the indictments against Trump are for acts committed as an individual or as a candidate. Not as POTUS. Secondly, what about when a partisan Congress refuses to hold one of their own to account, as was done twice with Trump?
Lastly, just as privilege never covers criminality, the same goes for immunity. Overt criminal acts can never be covered by either privilege or immunity. At that point, all bets are off. And with DOJ's directive against indicting a sitting president, accountability can only come once presidents are out of office; at which point impeachment is a moot point.
This is insane!