Walking Dead Previews VS Gameplay | How Did Telltale Change the Story?
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I just want to to take a moment to appreciate the fact that there is a youtuber who focuses solely on Telltale games.
there's a youtuber named Infernokon who only plays telltale it's small but you should check it out.
InfernoKun has good discussions and his voice is not that annoying unless you are saying InfernoKun sounds like Urkel?
BIGGGO4 agree
He focuses on walking dead show too he does reactions I think
BIGGGO4 YES
"This game will be tailored by whatever the fuck we want" - Telltale.
totally accurate
Such false advertisement. Their new "schtick" should be revised as "The dialogue and very minor pointless actions in the game is tailored by how you play because the story ends relatively the same regardless of what you pick..."-Telltale Games.
Greenixod I also find it funny how it took less time to make Heavy rain and until dawn than it did to make a third season for twd lmfao.
Except neither of those games were nearly as good as the Walking Dead games, or any Telltale game for that matter.
i MaximusVGA Wait... You're joking right? The walking dead games aren't even an original idea... They were stolen from another franchise. Not to mention it's not even a game with multiple endings. On top of that it takes them ages to make and EVEN THEN the visuals are utter garbage and still full of bugs. TWD is NOTHING compared to heavy rain and until dawn.
in s2 e3 trailer carver beats Kenny with a gun instead of the walkie talkie
LOLZ
a crowbar
jessica zeman thats can Be a Big difference right ? Having a Weapon or a Walke Talkie
no he doesn't!it's like a walkie talkie
Tayshaun Estrella no carver beating Kenny, not Kenny killing carver
"Dammit, where the fuck is Luke"
"FUCKING JANE, THAT'S WHERE HE IS"
byE
He was in Jane! xD
Hannah McBride
Actually, Troy's character model was originally meant to be Carver, according to my sources. They decided to redesign him last minute, and made the old model they created Troy. The deleted scenes you were talking about were from Episode 3.
Last minute? Just when did Michael Madsen sign on then? I read that after he signed on they decided to start from scratch on Carver's model.
@@SirBlackReeds Well, maybe "last minute" was just poor wording on my part. My understanding is that the reason "Troy" is seen in Carver's place in Episode 1's Next Time segment, and why he's on the thumbnail, was because at that time, they were using that character model for Carver. However, Carver's role in the story laid out so far, was small, as another idea for season 2 that was scrapped, was originally Kenny was going to be Carver. Season 1's lead writer, Sean Vanaman, and lead designer, Jake Rodkin, both left telltale after finishing Season 1 to found their own game company, Campo Santo, with their first game under that company being Firewatch. Vanaman did do some additional work for future walking dead installments before he left. Most notably, he was the lead writer of Russell's story in 400 days, and he created and designed the seven cabin survivors we meet in Season 2 episode 1. Vanaman had 1 more story idea that was changed later on, and that was that Carver was going to be revealed to be Kenny's surname, and Clementine would be horrified to learn about how Kenny has gone crazy now. After Vanaman left, the new writers decided that if Kenny was coming back, an antagonistic role, wouldn't work. So, they decided to give the name Carver to a new character. Although they do reference that original idea in Episode 5, with Jane warning Clementine that Kenny might become like Carver. This new Carver's role wasn't that big, and after Michael Madsen was cast as Carver, they decided that the character model they were using for Carver in the posters and early trailers didn't fit well with Madsen's voice, so Carver was redesigned. Rather than discard the old character model, they instead made us of it by giving Carver an extra goon to have with him and dubbed it Troy. And since that character model was still technically in the game, they didn't have to go back and change the posters. Another source I remember reading said that the reason Troy didn't have any lines ep 2, was simply they hadn't cast one for him yet. A voice actor, Owen Thomas (who also voiced Omid), was cast during production of ep 3. According to Owen, there were a lot of deleted scenes in ep 3, that he recorded lines for, that made Troy come off as worse than Carver, which is when Jane shooting him in the dick would've been even more satisfying.
@@poptartmilkman I just love how you gave an answer after 3 years like it would've been yesterday! most of the people won't respond. and yes I find it really interesting how they were planning to set up season 2. I think the final carver was also a lot scarier than troy.
Yeah. I’m replaying the game and saw in the preview it was Troy at the door instead of Carver. I was super confused 😐
@@rrosa2004 How about a two years after answer with bad grammar
I don't think Clementine's reaction was negative, but more of shock. A person would be trying to process everything for a few seconds before they actually show any other emotions.
I think you can interpret it as either or 🤷🏾♀️
8:37
"Especially since Lee passed away....
Especially since Lee passed away"
A* editing skills 😂
You mean 9 minutes in
mistakes... were made
I assumed it was intended lol
Gameover did u notice that in episode 5 thumb nail u can see the walker wearing lee's outfit.
in season 2 episode 5
Yeah and originally, Clementine was supposed to die in Episode 5 of Season 2, which the title was going to be called: "Better to sleep", rather than "No going Back", symbolizing her being a "dead girl walking" by Carley in a deleted nightmare scene from Season 1 , and Eddie (from 400 Days DLC) was originally supposed to take Arvo's place in Episode 4 of Season 2.
Nick Fairall I think it would have been better if it were Eddie cause I hate arvo but I know it wouldn’t make sense because of the whole Russian group sub plot
They removed Eddie from S2 and put him in S4 which for me was horrible since few remember the character.
@@kel474 I'm ngl I didn't even realize that was Eddie from 400 days until I just read this comment
I spent like 2 hours trying to get troy to come instead of carver then I found out they changed it XD
LOL
SAME OMG
xLsGRules xD
Chris Ramos lmao mee too and I was like how tf make Matthew survive 😂😂😂
Doug Judy Lol true
If Lee was wearing his leather jacket from Episode 2, he wouldn't have been bitten. The trailers and thumbnails showed Lee in his jacket. You forgot to point that out.
Why wouldn’t he have gotten bit is the jacket too thick
They can bite through clothing it wouldn't of been a sheild at all the only way he could of not gotten bit is a quick reaction
@@jordanandrews216 And also Jane says that Clem's Jacket would go right through too.
@@MariusBoss11458 the thing is that leather jacket Lee has on is actually pretty thick, thicker than Clem’s jacket in season 2. There could had been a chance that he would had lived if he had it on
@@MidnightIX Damn! Maybe.
Also something very interesting, what hasn't been mentioned in this video:
Actually, Telltale planned Kenny to be the villain at the end of season 2. But Telltale changed their mind for whatever reason.
That has been stated by Gavin Hammon (Kennys VA), but I can't find the interview anymore.
Kenny is not bad guy anymore he’s good guy
14:00 Nah I'd disagree and says it's grasping for straws saying the way Clementine said, "I thought you were dead," was misleading.
Her expression could be explained off believably as shock and disbelief. She's basically seeing a "ghost." It's how Clem usually talks/reacts. I'd probably react the same way.
Agreed
9:15 You forgot that Clementine should be wearing her short pigtails, because of course, Lee cut her hair before he died.
just saw that and scrolled to see if anyone picked up on this. first comment i saw!
Well this picture might have been when Episode 1 came out so yeah.
Season 2 episode 3 was a huge disappointment, their original ideas seem so much better. Also how come there wasn't an option for Troy to be a determinate character. Also the 400 days character should have played bigger roles, like an option to convince them to join the group and escape.
Mazen Ali Yeah according to the original plot, Clem was gonna bear witness to that dick headery first-hand. Not figuratively either.
Not true, Troy was supposed to be Carver before they came up with William.
Vale96 and before that, it was kenny
@@you-5-iver804 Yeah and Troy didn't even exist, they created him as Carver and then changed his plot and called him Troy.
Originally all of the 400 days Character will be the antagonist in episode 4 which play the Russian's role but because of the Deadline with all the budget and Developer were move to The Wolf among us so they rewrite the episode (especially ep 4 and 5, they rewrite ALL)
It's so cool how passionate you're about Twd most CZcamsrs that played the game don't even talk about it anymore. I'm glad there's someone who loves this game as much as I do 👌
19:53 carver hits kenny with a gun instead of a radio. Maybe before they released the episode the group might've got clementine to steal a gun?
19:51 Carver hits Keeny with a Pistol! Not the walkie-Talkie!
Does he? I thought he hits him with the walkie that Kenny gave him 😕
SkyGaming
there might have been a another plan!
Traxtty Kenny *
Keeny?
Traxtty he does hit him with the walkie talkie
Originally Kenny was considered for the antagonist of S2 taking Carver's role as the leader of a community. Troy was supposed to be more malicious and implied to be a sexual predator.
Zombiedude101z I honestly wouldn’t know how to feel if kenny was the villain
Bruh lees out fit was different in the episode 3 thumbnail then it was in the actual episode! Ben was never in front of the train!
Yup!
Ikr bro!
same for 4.
Am I the only one who sees the last picture for no going back looks identical to Lee?
The dress actually looks identical to lee's dress.
Gerard Wright for me I think nope
'No Going Back' - no going back to the old days. Time for Clem to grow up *now*, not a child anymore.
I know right? Clementine’s curly hair matches with Lee’s.
Reynik Namyrion No one asked?
I think Troy’s character model was initially intended to be Carver. However, the developers found a good voice for Carver that didn’t really match Troy’s model so they changed it.
That's legit what he said dumbass 😂
So don't try and sound smart
Skizzle well they still should of stick with the dark story if it was season two would of been the best season or if they just made the story a little bit better
i actually love lee's coat in season 2 i wish he just wore it the entire season though
P.S I just realized that duck shows like he's not bitten in the thumbnail of episode 3 my lifes a lie
Me too.I Never undestand why they Put back his Old clothes From Episode 1.
Sorry for My English.
@@Matheus21video because the plot demands him to die. Had he kept that nice jacket he might've survived
@@slimslime737 Sad
Troy was actually Craver's original model but the voice actor wanted Talltale to change the look to fit his voice better
19:51 anybody realize that its a revolver not a walking talkie?
Default Name every time I saw that I never could make out what that was
I think it would've been more dangerous for Rebecca to have had her baby at Carver's. At least to me, the baby came out looking a lot like Alvin. Especially in the next game coming up as well. I don't think he would've been too happy to have found out the baby wasn't his. That was part of the reason why he wanted Rebecca back so bad wasn't it? Because he was under the impression that the baby was his? Of course I could always be wrong, and he could be mixed, but just look more like his mother. My brothers and I are White/Filippino, and some of us have a dark complexion while the other may have a lighter complexion (which can look completely opposite depending on which parent) so who knows...
I’ve been the same age as Clementine through the hole game series, So in the first season it was like a child trying to protect a child which I love because the thought of young me being a protector just warms me up in all the right places
Only childrens are disguisting
s2 e2 preview pisses me off, i want to see what troy woulda said, and i always wondered about how matthew could've lived
same
Mattew lived if you saved let Nick die and saved Pete but Pete would die anyway because he was bit idk 😹
+WolffeyAngel AJ nick can't die until the end of episode 2
+WolffeyAngel AJ no, he runs into the woods, you find him anyway, dude, I'm a hard core walking deaf fan, I know everything about each version of it
Nick is right. Whether you choose to go with Pete or Nick, Pete dies and Nick survives. I've seen multiple play throughs of both options.
Clem is so cute! In S3 she's still cute
😂😂
yes she's the best. the ultimate cute little badass girl.
Clemy-Clu!!!
Clem = cute badass killing machine
yes Cute little Clementine's da real mvp.
Completely forgot they were gonna make Ben a capable character, who could shoot guns and kill things. I wish we had this ben
there is a model in the game of clementine with no hat on.. youtube "carvers dance camp" lol
ohhhh
I'm with you, I was certain from that preview that the mystery returning character was gonna be Lily.
Troy's model was supposed to be Carvers model but they thought his character needed a more menacing model
I FOUND SOMETHING!
15:06
its hilda the pickaxe....but in green!
Asmistrater wow nice catch!
I don't know why but it bothers me when the preview is nothing like the gameplay
The skeleton in the S2 E5 thumbnail looks like it's wearing Lee's clothes when he died. I know there's no way in hell that's Lee cause he's still in Savannah, but it's still pretty interesting to see that in there.
I think lee's outfit in episode 2 was supposed to be his outfit until episode 5. As you can see by the original episode 4 title art.
In episode 3 lee change his clothes
I miss Carley.
She was hot
@@logansim1316 has been the first time he had seen him as the best way for me Is that I
I rather Doug tbh he was nicer
@@logansim1316 there is more to a charictar then just being hot
Same. All I can do is be as mean as possible to Lily. And that I did on my first Playthrough.
you forgot one thing in the preview carver hit Kenny with a gun but in the game play he hits Kenny with a wakie talkie
25:50 pretty sure that's Kenny on (our) left
same it looks just like him when his hat falls off in episode 5
And to the right it looks like Matthew with his hat
Another small difference I noticed was at a point carver was using a pistol to beat Kenny instead of a walkie talkie
My friends thinks that the walker in the thumbnail of S2 is Lee, how could Lee walk that far? Also, how can it be Lee if you chose to shoot him
Austin Harrington ikr
Austin Harrington also clementine put her handcuffs
@@seanfernandez4234 One thing which is dumb. I didn't handcuffed Lee and I shot him. But in Season 4 Episode 2 The game thinks you Handcuffed him. Now when you get into Season 4 and you don't import your save it never gave you an option about handcuffing him or not. It's weird it's like that. Wish in the Definitive Edition they could have made a line if you don't handcuff him.
yeah in season 1 episode 2 trailer had a few Ben differences, He had a gun in trailer but not in episode, in trailer he had a different voice.
The trailer for the second episode of season I one of the things you missed was carley being the one giving out the food, and she handed lee a energy bar
In case no one said it yet about S2 Ep2's trailer, the original idea was Kenny would be the leader of the community, this however was changed to Carver who also had a smaller role, but was enlarged because of his voice actor.
Though this next part regarding the same Ep, Supposedly Troy was just used as a place holder for Carver, however I don't remember where I found this information so I can't really back it up.
Notice how when carver was talking it said: we can find it in our hearts to forgive them” and it was showing BONNIE.
But I mean, no we can’t.
It’s Bonnie.
I didn't see anything pointing out on how Ben was actually holding a gun, was using it (Lilly trains Ben on how to use the rifle later on), and had a different VA in the season one, episode 2 preview. In other words, Telltale changed Ben to be less competent, less brave, and more like a whiny teenage brat. Not to say it wasn't a good choice, just that the preview showed a different character than we got. Which means that Ben wasn't always the little screw up he was in the actual game.
I would like to mattew to stay alive he looks like an interesting character
I'm pretty sure the Skelton in s2 ep5 means one of the two will die...
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yea maybe but if you look at what can be seen of the shirt on the skeleton in s2 ep5 that looks alot like lees shirt from season 1
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if u look bhind bonie in the armory u an see a green Hilda
In the UK it's Walking Dead Thursday.
This breakdown was well needed and your analysis on it hit me in the face... *I’m honored.*
Teaser + Trailer = Teasler? Actually, the bandits are antagonists while the St. Johns are the villains. So Troy doesn't speak in the teaser for S2E2 on Xbox 360 or Xbox One? He does on the PS4 version. Troy is beta Carver. The S2E3 teaser actually contain the most significant amount of changes. The bucket event never happens, that bit with Carver and Clem on the rooftop never happens, the "storm is on the way" line never happens, for starters.
in the trailer for episode 2 , they showed a scene where Ben was shoting, but I Don't remember that happening ?
before the episode was made they had different ideas for episode 2 watch game over ent video it's called season 1 unused diolauge and cut content
Sofia F Merino actually Ben have that gun because Lee gave it to him, to watch lilly (if you take her with you)
Mizhidor yes but not at that expecific place
ermm....what do you mean?
ooooh i see what you mean, yeah that never happened in the episode, maybe it was cut from the game
"I thought you were dead" for me I think it was Lee :'(
Mayrose Bareng it can't BE he died!!!
Mayrose Bareng that makes no sense how would it be lee
It cant be lee you can shoot him or leave him cufed dying
Ethan Johnson it could also be her if you kept her bc she stole the van
Decapatain Cuppajoe Lol I wish
7:54 I keep wondering if Larry turned and thats what Lilly is looking at
telltale: "the choices we make tailors how you play"
Carver was holding a gun beating Kenny instead of a radio
What i think about the art style in S2 ep5 is the dead walker is Suppose to be Lee. And the title is No Going back. like it meant that No going back to the old days and Clem shoud be more on her own and more to be grow up as the time past. Like Lee always say to "Grow Up now, because your not a little girl anymore"
I noticed something during the beatdown. It showed Carver beating Kenny with the butt of a gun... in the actual gameplay he beat him with a walkie-talkie. So possibly the walkie talkie scene wasn't going to happen?
You missed something I believe, in the season two video's. It showed carver hitting kenney with the butt of a gun. Instead of the walkie talkie.
the difference of episode 3 was that Kenny was beaten up by a gun and episode 4 difference is that Jane was still dirty and everyone else was bloody and usually, Clem shouts Sarah's name and they are still dirty
Man I LOVE GAMEOVER ENT! Keep going bro. Great video!
u forgot lots of diferences on the first one: clems clothes, lee running in the bushes, lilly aiming the saint jhon's and the scene where kenny says there will be war, oh and the scene where larry is looking at lee, and katjaa saying thanks for saving duck
And Clementine's Hat.
And she is saying that she is Hungry.
IN episode 4 the guy on the right is Lee :-)
No shit Sherlock
:"D
mind blown
Which season?
Ahmed Mahmoud -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
I assumed the "I thought you were dead" reveal was going to be Christa. I never assumed anyone from Season 1, especially not Lilly since she had that whole storyline at the prison (from the books)...
YOU JUST UPLOADED A NEW VIDEO BUT I'M STILL WATCHING THIS ONE OML
I think Troy is like Dwight, if you read the comics.
+A Potato Chip Yeah, could've been an Dwights origin, with the exception of him getting his you know what shot off lol
What was shot off?
InvasionFPS His dick
I don't remember that his dick was shot off. Wasn't it bitten by the fat fuck in Rick's group (forgot his name)?
Yeah same style but definitely not the same person. Troy was a dick Dwight actually helps in comics
Ben was never shooting a gun in episode 2. You MISSED that!😬🙂
26:35 is that atlanta in the background
MistaC it’s Wellington
13:39 if i didnt already play season 2 i wouldve probably thought it was Lilly or Vernon
I could be wrong, but I think there was a time in development where there wasn't any dialogue options for reacting to Kenny's reveal as being alive. I wouldn't say Clementine sounded unhappy in this instance, it was more just pure shock than anything else. Then again, it could have also been Lily she was saying this to. It would have been interesting if this took place in a separate scene or something, though. I also have to wonder if Carver and his group would have taken a more ally -type of route with Clementine's group depending on the choices you made. In other words, perhaps Carver could have at one point (depending on your choices) been less brutal. Have no idea on that though.
MySoul YourBeats yea it would make your choices matter if so
Last I checked Ben didn't know how to use a gun.
if you look closely, the dead walker on the season 2 episode 5 title was wearing what looked like the clothes Lee wore during season 1.
at season 2 episode 2 trailer,i think it was christa..
and clem thought she was dead
On the Episode 2 one Ben using a gun is so unbelievable
Also ben voice sounds different
Actually I think Troy was Carver's original design.
20:50 she’s just hovering her hands around his head like she’s using vr controllers 😂
In the thumbnail for episode four, doesn't it look like the two guys from 400 days. The two guys who were in the car trying to escape that bandit guy.
bro u forget that Carver bet Kenny with gun
Carver bet Kenny with gun.....
26:24 i jus realized the city in da background is the same city in season 1 when lee was in the cop car coming outta that city
You know what i think in Season 2 episode 4 art style is the people in the back is Arvo's group.
the matthew walter thing was at the lodge. listen to what alvin says. u can also see the same background when clem is walking through the group
I was looking for this video long time ago
around 19:51 notice that Carver is holding a revolver in his hands while beating the shit outta Kenny! but in reality he had the radio, that Kenny returned to him. Just wanted to point out.
Nice video dude
The part when Clementine finds Kenny is still shocking
Also, look at the episode 5 art with the walker, it has lees shirt!
15:35 i jus realized the tool in the background was used by molly back in season 1
Nice spot ☺️
I miss season 1.. And Lee :/ but i'm looking forward to 3rd season tho
3:20 Season one, episode 3* ;)
Also I believe you had the intention of editing the audio differently at 9:25
But anyway! This video was really interesting, I had noticed Troy being the one at the door, but for some reason never saw Matthew standing (at least what looks like) next to Walter.
How Did Telltale Change the Story? By giving us some of the most ass choices I have ever witnessed.
-EDIT- How does tatted Russian go from semi-auto to a fucking... was that a pump action rifle? A pump action rifle he was shooting with only ONE hand???
Jackie J Plus think about he could've lost it in the Shoot out and grabbed the shot gun
Even so, there should've been quite a few bodies on the ground before then, and how do you lose a semi...? You might run outta ammo sure, but that is a big ass gun. It's not gonna get 'lost' unless your legally blind lmao.
Two videos 😎😁 this made my day
8:23 OMG ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED
I'm so excited for season 3.
Something about the previews for each episode makes me really hyped.
I've seen it before do you know what day it's gunna come out? And yeah me to Clem looks so cool and her eyes look like a hazel color WAIT I WAS THE LOOOKING AT THE PIC WERE IS HER FINGER
Rose Love Joy People think it's coming out on November 15.
The only game I've been this excited for in the past is fallout 4
Thanks!
+Rose Love Joy December 20th
Master Zexus 2 days after my b day :3
That Troy bit you’re talking about. Carver originally had Troy’s model.
13:50 maybe it was supose to be lee but that could be only if you choosed to lee turn and that if you killed lee that you get kenny
he missed the fact that carver actually beat kenny with the walkie talkie in the actual episode instead of a gun
In the trailer for season 2 episode 3 when Clem is talking to Bonnie, in the background is the same tool that Molly used but green.
Y'know in the episode 3 preview in season 1, Lee's clothes are the same clothes as in episode 2, but in game his clothes are the same as in episode 1.
Season 2 Episode 4 thumbnail Background: on the right is Eddie from 400 Days and the right dude behind clemetine is Wyatt.
the guy in the back is Kenny