Telltale's Walking Dead Ending Was A Masterpiece
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- čas přidán 29. 05. 2024
- After having finally finished the final season of Telltale's The Walking Dead, I really wanted to do a retrospective about the series. I still remember downloading the first episode on my Xbox 360 all the way back in 2012! Man time sure does fly. Hope you guys enjoy the video!
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I will always choose Kenny over Jane no matter what. It doesn't matter what she was trying to prove, she left a infant baby in a car in a blizzard with Walkers around.
Kenny was right about her. In the end she only cares for herself.
While I agree, Kenny is a massive liability
@@Aryan-qv5qk Kenny is the opposite is a liability. Jane is a liability and a weakness.
@@draugnaustaunikunhymnphoo6978 he isn’t, he freaks out and explodes constantly
Jane is also a liability to a different degree
@@Aryan-qv5qk Kenny never freaks out without reason, as it if always justified. Sure it may be a bit extreme, but that's mostly due to us not understanding the stress or situation.
I most definitely cried like a baby after Clem got bit. I cried during and after AJ supposedly killed her. And then when I saw her on crutches, I cried again. It's crazy how much we could love a fictional character. It's like we've all simultaneously agreed that Clem is OUR kid, who we've raised since she was eight lol
Considering how long the series has been going on it really does feel like growing up beside her. Despite the possibilities of them killing off Clem, Im glad they didn't. I think I'd cry a river if it had happened hahahh
Oh, def. The entire TT:WD is Clementine's saga. Season 1 and Season 4 are mirrors of each other, Season 2 was Clementine's coming-of-age story, Season 3 ... well its a detour but overall inconsequential (like you could skip this and go straight 2 to 4 and miss absolutely nothing).
Yes, I've never felt emotionally attached to any game character before, but Clementine? I felt I'd do anything to save her. This series definitely had something others don't.
@@nickevans417 same bro.
@@kali9399 Admittedly I started watching gameplays of twd at age 10-11 (I'm 19 now) so around when season 2 came out so I really did grow up with this series. And so when final episode of season 4 came out I literally felt my mood completely shift to sadness even when knowing Clem and Aj were going to be alright.
I started watching most of the TV show around 17 and 18 but honestly it really doesn't hold a candle to telltale's version. I hope one day I can show this game to my children if I have any which is a weird sentiment but regardless I feel this way strongly.
Y’know if you would go so far to endangering a child’s life freezing in the cold just to prove a point that someone is dangerous, maybe there’s a reason Kenny would act hostile towards you.
Not to mention, making Kenny think you just killed a 3 day old baby he treated like his adopted son is pretty bad for your health
She planned to leave AJ behind if he hadnt started crying he wouldve died. Jane is a traumatized sociopath who constantly sees the ghost of her sister and wanted Clem all for herself because she missed her. It wasnt to prove a point it was to aggravate a man in her way and manipulate Clementine against him. Kenny suspecting Jane killed the baby by ditching it wasnt an unjustified assumption, its literally what she planned to do. You can see on her face after AJ starts crying shes thinking "oh damn it". Its literally a choice between two traumatized people with anger issues and a deep need for this 12 year old girls love, only one would literally hurt her to get it while the other is the only person who knows to take care of her and AJ in her life without ditching them.
Then she kills herself. Kenny vindicated. She's crazy. Kenny was a loving father.
@@tjs.5044 How can you call her crazy for killing herself?? Genuinely never understood this being brought up as if it's a selfish act, comes off as very insensitive
She states that she feels like a burden, like Clementine can take care of herself and AJ and that she's just in her way, so she already feels like her being dead would make everything easier for Clementine. Then, she finds out she's pregnant, presumably with Luke's child, not only reminding her of past trauma, but also putting her in a situation where she can either give birth to ANOTHER baby to take care of when I believe they were running out of food and risk dying afterwards as well, leaving Clementine with possibly two babies all on her own, or Jane can just abort the child. We don't know what happens with abortions in this world, or at least I don't, and she definitely doesn't. Does the fetus reanimate? Would it eat her from the inside, and how painful would that be theoretically? How developed do you have to be before you can be reanimated? If I were her, I'd be too horrified by the idea to even take the chance.
Idk, I just feel the conflict between Jane and Kenny is a lot more nuanced than "Kenny is cool and good and loyal to his family and stuff which makes him good but Jane is an evil sociopath who kills babies and also herself because she's selfish and bad", they're both abusive in their own separate ways. Remember, as far as Kenny knew, Jane tried her best to protect AJ, but then he tries to murder Jane right in front of Clementine, refusing to respond to reason or emotional appeals or anything. He saw his son in AJ and now AJ's gone and so he feels the need to take out his anger on someone else, but what if it was Clementine who had done something unintentionally? All I'm saying is that there's definitely some nuance here
@@crypt5129 nah bruh she a biatch for killing herself lmao
I love the split of people who either see Kenny as a loving man that takes care of her, or a final tether to the her old life that needed to be put down. I’ve seen so much from both sides and I love how it splits everyone.
Same here. And at first it kind of weirded me out how so many people could still side with Kenny. But then I remember that's what made these games so cool to play. Not just your own actions, but that of others. I would play through a chapter, and then my wife would play and I would love to see what she did, whether it was different or similar to my own actions.
First time playing I sided with Kenny no matter what after I ran back into him in season 2, and christa only bugs me cause why she disappear lol
@@blakemcgee2333 Christa blames Clem for Omid's death, because in her eyes, Omid died because Clem wasn't cautious enough. She wouldn't let Clem die, but she didn't want to stick around with her either.
I love Kenny. He was a broken man fighting with the consequences of living in a zombie apocalypse and making hard choices.
I put Kenny down you could tell how much he was broken it was the only real option for him knowing if you stick with him he dies anyway it felt like the right choice reuniting him with his family and the woman he loved
Between seasons 1-4 you realize that in seasons 1 and 2 that adults are trying to survive the apocalypse with little thought about how kids would grow up and adapt to a new world. but in seasons 3 and 4 you see that a new generation of young adults trying to survive the harsh and deadly world of The Walking Dead.
Its such a crazy concept, like aj is growing up killing and being in the walker age where as everyone had to adapt to it. I really hope they somehow do a follow up.
To be completely honest, Jane sacrificing a child (potentially, she didn't know a walker wouldn't get him) to prove a point to someone she saw lose literally everything and kept prodding the full season was enough for me to not side with her. Full on forced the insanity out of him
i ended the last season today and i swear i cryed when aj took the axe to kill clementine. but when i saw her without foot and alive i was glad to see her again. this game really made masterpiece i love it, but about new frontier you are right i everything what you say but jesus and chavi was kind of good actually
When l frist saw the pink text that was the same to season 1 l was like "no its not real its just a dream" l srs thought that untill the end when l saw Clem help push Aj
Was a bit dumb though tbh, since whatever nastiness had already gone systemic, as you could tell by her colour and weakness. The only way amputation makes sense is if it's immediate, before the infection has a chance to spread. Once it's there... adios. That's why my Lee kept his arm. He knew he was going out, so he needed both hands and no blood loss to achieve his goal. Amputation would if anything make you die quicker because of the massive shock on your system.
@@tSp289 She was sickly likely cause of a massive amount of blood loss, which is also probably why the infection couldn't spread as quickly as normal. Her surviving makes much more sense than Abel surviving.
@@FunnieApple post-hoc justification I think. It's beena while but I don't remember massive blood loss. Either way, blood loss makes you more likely to catch infections, not less.
@@tSp289 you seem to have wanted some kind of explanation though since you thought it was dumb so what does it matter if it's post-hoc? The real reason is cause it's a game about zombies where the story is more important than any kind of explanation. You can suspend your disbelief for the zombies but bending the rules for bites/amputations is too much?
Season 2 gets lots of hate story wise but I agree with you. It’s my favorite made my heart hurt
Bruh I've never heard anyone hate season 2. 10/10
@@adono6593 I agree I love season 2
I just hate Sarah
@@desperateimpact9645 well it's really Carlos fault she's the way she is clem would of been like that if lee didn't teach her to survive
@Fak Yiu Maybe, but in most aspects not so much tbh
@Fak Yiu IMO season 2 is weaker in the writing and characters than season 1. That being said, it does have redeeming qualities, but personally for me season 1 felt more compelling with less redundant characters.
Season 2 also feels like Clem is doing all the important work for the adults while they mostly argue, making the adults look incompetent in comparison to a child.
I just noticed that Clem has the same kind of blue clothes as Lee, and AJ ends up wearing the red, like Clem's red hoodie in season 1
Honestly Season 4 was my favorite season in this series for all the reasons you said. I also think the writers gave some pretty fair reasoning as to how Clementine survived the bite and why she looked so bad. She already lost a lot of blood from the huge gash in her leg and was straining her body a ton. They also confirmed it was about 17 minutes between her getting bit and her leg getting chopped off, which we know is soon enough. Also her being bit on the lower leg, below the giant gash of blood loss slowed the process heavily. All in all I loved this season and the writing, I didn’t hate any of the boarding school kids and they gave characters like Mitch and Marlon good development before they died cast. Also I love Louis, sorry Violet 😂.
Great video, but I think people are way too harsh on New Frontier, yeah, it doesn't matter much in comparison to the rest of the game, but it's still pretty darn good.
Exactly
Just played through it again for the first time in years, and going into it knowing it I wouldn’t be Clementine for most of the game helped a lot. I still don’t get what they were thinking with the middle finger to season 2
I feel like it could've worked more as a DLC, like 400 days. Not as an integral part of the original story.
@@mooneverland1015 well it just gave a different perspective to the story
its actually the best in the series but people are too blind to notice......
I’m sorry I can’t think that Kenny was wrong. These people kept treating Arvo better than their own group, despite his multiple betrays killing many in the group. And I can’t see him as a monster after he insisted you stay in the community. It definitely went against everything Jane said about him only wanting to keep people around that can’t argue with him. He was the same in that he wanted to protect him family, whether his blood or adopted children, just now he can commit to that philosophy. But apparently that made him a monster.
The main issue I see people bringing up with Telltale games is how your choices don’t matter. But this season made them matter. If you choose to save Louis or Violet it completely changes the other characters life. Either Louis’ tongue getting cut out, or Violet going blind in one eye. Also killing Lily or not does matter, James was confirmed to live after the Cave regardless of if he protects you or not. Trusting AJ or not decides the life of Tenn or Louis/Violet. A lot of people like to compare TWD to Until Dawn, hoping choices matter like that game. But people forget that they really are about the same. In until dawn if you choose the wrong thing characters can die and that’s it. No story changes, just the characters missing from scenes or there maybe being some different dialogue. TWD does the same, there’s just less options for a character to die. And honestly, I’m fine with that.
the choices always matter in the last season and only the last season
Ironically the two times I cried was when clem came back and when the credits were on the wall. Seeing clem come back just released all of these emotions that were built up from the previous episodes and seeing the credits on the wall, knowing that this story I spent 80 hours playing was going to end, and also knowing what the developers went through to finish this masterpiece of a story broke me
You and me both.. The credits on the wall and the song, "Safe and sound"..
Every time I see a walking dead game video pop up in my recommended I always crack a smile I miss this game and series so much, good video also
I get that feeling as well sometimes. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Telltale’s TWD series is the only video games that ever got tears out of me lol. Clementines story will be in my mind forever.
I loved the ending part where your controls kept switching from AJ to Clementine in the barn. Made it really intense and a good way to ease into changing the controlled character to aj
I disagree with kenny being wrong, jane lied about killing a child lol, she made him lash out like that
She lied about the child getting killed. Not that she killed them. Don't know how yall miss this. Must be the kenny blinders.
@@heroinboblivesagain5478 no cus if the child died it would've been Jane's fault because she was in charge of the child life at that time. Kenny wouldn't of lashed out If she didn't lie.
The way I see it the ranch scene was Clems nightmare in a way. She "murdered" ajs caretaker. In my 1st playthru I hesitated to shoot TWICE to see if there was another way. I couldn't. And I've never seen aj scared that bad with my playthrus so far. Made me wonder if it was the apocalypse or clem that made aj more less morally adaptable and traumatized
I don't get why videos like this don't get thousands of views. This is a really good video
Thank you random human on internet man! I really appreciate that. This was a fun essay to put together.
It did get thousands of views...
@@europeanpatriot8031 Hindsight bias
@@randomhumanontheinternet9857 It now has tens of thousands of views.
@@randomhumanontheinternet9857 you should make this comment more often on my video me thinks 🤣
It's becoming my most viewed essay video, so once again, thank you ☺️
The ranch scene in s4 was a great sequence in the wrong part of the season, I thought it was good they add a bridge between s3 and s4 but they should have added it earlier in the season not at the end.
They should’ve replaced it with a final talk with lee
@@traviselwell3066
Nah, we didn't need more talks with Lee. A whole sequence with all the people that mattered to Clementine n' helped her get to that point would be more impactful. Hell, would have been cool if not all the people that haunted her were benevolent. A few nightmares with Carver would have been swell, as well as actually relevant.
I dont want it to end, I am too attached to Clementine to just let her and her story go.
The fact that people don’t want Clem in the next game (if we’re fortunate to get one) makes me sad. How could they just decide they’re done with her? She carried the game aswell as some other characters! I certainly hope she makes one final return..
@@Tea23145 Yes I agree. I would say, till the Season 4 I wouldn't want a sequel with her, so the finale wouldn't be ruined. But with the new comics that already screwed the perfect final she got, I would love a new game to fix that.
i would say that it makes sense for clem living because not only was lee bitten for a longer time but he was also knocked unconcious for an unknown period of time because of said bite then he also had to travel a lot to reach clem and fight not only through a horde but a human as well clem on the other hand was recently bit and traveled for a shorter period of time giving her a lot of time to cut the leg
I went the opposite route and told AJ not to shoot at the end. It still works with his character growth since it led to a heated conversation between Clem and him shortly after. One where he decides he is responsible enough to make his own decisions.
Either way though, being a father myself it was so tough trying to decide how to approach raising AJ. It really made me question how the hell I'd approach something like this in the real world.
Yep, AJ really tore my heart up when he gave me that speech in the cave, so I finally trusted him and said I know he’ll make the right call even though I was very worried about him.
I wish we get another Walking Dead game playing as older AJ so that we could make him behave right this time
I like how he referenced innuendo studio’s “we don’t talk about Kenny.” He brings up good points and also bread tube. His video series on the rhetorical strategies and beliefs of the alt right are really good too.
I thought I was gunna haaate AJ but I ended up loving him as much as Clemente 😭
The new frontier was a weird azz story. They really tried to make you steal another man’s family his kids, his daughter, his wife. Omfg.
I would've been okay with Javi as a protagonist, but there was always an ick to him when I look back. And now you made me remember exactly why lmao
Oh god ty for mentioning this. People either ignore the frontier or never mention this part of it. I always just felt mad bad for David whenever I think about it 😭
Yeah but clem was a badass in this season
That guy was gone for three years or however long idr, as far as they knew he was dead, and then once they found each other, Kate didn't love him anymore. David was also abusive towards both her and Javier. Framing it as "guy steals his brother's wife and children" seems a bit dishonest imo
Well it’s understandable why Kate and Javi fell for each other. They were together for longer than Kate and David were before the apocalypse and Javi was good towards her in comparison to David who was kind of cold and distant.
Plus the fact that they thought David was dead.
AJ cuts off Clem's leg regardless if you trusted him in the cave. I had to play both choices to unlock some secret achievement trophies on Steam for the You and Me trophy (The you and Me trophy was not trusting AJ in the cave and having one of the Tenn endings) and the Bonded Trophy(bonded trophy was the friendship/friend zone route between Violet or Louis). And the reason for that choice because the creators didn't want to repeat the cycle with AJ killing Clementine, the way Clementine had to kill Lee, and not a lot of players would have chosen the ending of Clementine actually dying or turning into a walker. But Clem had to deal with some sort of sense of loss and sacrifice so that is why they had made it to lose her left leg.
And the reason for Clementine not being able to turn as Lee did, was because of the way Minnie had slashed her leg on the bridge. Her leg was oozing blood from where it was slashed open by Minnie, and the walker bit it, so whatever blood was in her leg was oozing out from the ax wound where Minnie cut her open which never affected the rest of her body. And the reason she was pale looking, was because of the blood loss from her leg wound. Minnie kind of did Clem a favor by slicing her leg open.
Just stop bro It was a bait and switch for Clem’s death her eyes were piss yellow just like lee’s transformation even this guy mentioned it 😂
@@oharoza4851 he didn't mention it at all. It was bait from what I remember. Regardless of your choice at the end of letting Clem become a walker or killing her, AJ still cuts off the bitten leg to save Clem. Clementine still lives no matter the outcome of the last choice, because no one wants an ending where Clem dies. So it is fixed that Clem doesn't repeat the cycle of Lee and die, and we all get a happy ending.
@@CodyKitforDisney bro that’s what I just said it was a bait from telltale they wanted the player to think she was gonna die so you could feel something or be sad just for her to show up at the end 🫠
@@oharoza4851her eyes weren't yellow at all and she wasn't infected no longer then 20 minutes
I just finished Season 4. Prior to that, I think Season 2 is the most memorable to me. I'll never forget the [Hug Kenny] option 😔
I hate how dumb I was to not play the walking dead when it came out. I hate myself for it.I just finished the game. Seasons 1-4 I just wish that I was able to play it in 2012 because now I feel like I’m completely left out of all this and when this company was popping off. Now they’re not making any more walking dead seasons, but they’re making comics. If you haven’t already, look up the Clementine comics. They completely ruined her character in 12 pages. When Clementine promised AJ she’d never leave him, her character swapped in the first 4 pages, leaving him at the school to go north. Sky bound is ruining the walking dead franchise. I’m gonna act like the comics aren’t canon because I can tell they’re not gonna be amazing. I think season 4 was a perfect ending because Clem leaves off with AJ and the other kids at the school in a big (sort of) cliffhanger which I liked because we didn’t see either AJ die, or Clementine.
I think we’ve all just agreed to act like the comics aren’t canon. They probably won’t be for long anyways
Indeed, I still haven't seen a single person who likes the comics, so it's pretty safe to say the community doesn't and probably never will see them as canon, no matter how many they make
I know right, in every single season people were always talking about how they were tired of running, and how in s4 AJ wanted a real home for once. Clem and AJ finding a home is the perfect way to end the series. With a perfect ending like that, why bother making comics?? If they were to continue Clem's story they should've just made another game instead. And I also wish I played twdg when the company was balling
The Tillie Walden comics . The Robert Kirkman comics are however really good and I strongly recommend them.
I personally liked Kenny's death in season 3, I thought it played into the progression of the new zombified world that you can be armed to the teeth for survival but a car is still a dangerous thing, which I feel like some people would forget in the midst of all the walkers and hostile people
Walkers randomly showing up is pretty common and would be something to expect on the road. Furthermore, even among everything, Kenny still sorta remembers stuff such as kids shouldn't be hearing cuss words or be drinking. So why would he forget seatbelts when teaching a kid how to drive?
@@tronovonflidder775 i think the seatbelts would have played a minor part if they're both knocked out for some time.
i honestly killed lily because i didnt like her attitude and the fact that she was recruiting child soldiers, but i fully didn't expect AJ to load the full clip onto her
A truly majestic and overall emotional rollercoaster, that this series brought to its fans, I'm so glad that Clementine made it out alive. Truly one of the best series to a video game that I have ever played in my life. And there are many others all around the world, whose hearts have been touched by this game, as well as TWD series as a whole. Thankyou Telltale Games and Skybound Games for completing the series. As well as the #StillNotBitten team.
i finished it about 2 year ago jesus christ time flies
I'm glad to hear someone else loves season 2 as much as I do.
I did. Also it had some amazing music. I just had to Learn "In The Pines", it was so haunting. Now I perform it in my music duo.
Glad to see someone else watched that video on Kenny! Though I agree with your thoughts on A New Frontier, I think the story was still very important to Clem's story arc. Season two ends with Clementine setting off to become her new Lee, but season three shows her lose sight of that path. She doesn't become Lee in season three, she becomes season two Kenny. Regaining AJ is what helped get her back on the right path, hence the ranch scene.
Showing what's assumed to be the end of Clem and AJ's relationship juxtaposed to when it first truly began was thematically powerful, even if it didn't make the most sense with the flow of the story. As that video on Kenny mentions, Kenny becomes a dark mirror to Lee, to show what he would become without Clem around. Clementine losing AJ is what led her down the same path, and to very similar choices. Her saving grace was her humanity and empathy, traits that Kenny relied on Sarita for because he'd discarded them to make the pain go away. Arguably, Javi was also monumental in making sure she didn't lose those traits entirely in the wake of the New Frontier group's meddling and civil war.
I was actually pretty surprised to hear your opinions on season two. Most people agree that the first season is the best, so to hear otherwise is always attention-grabbing for me. Though I see many of your points, I still have to rank the second season below the first personally. This is mostly due to how I consume media, particularly stories. I focus a great deal on the characters and forging bonds with them or coming to understand their viewpoint. Season two has some pretty bland characters in my opinion, with most of them barely doing anything or making no sense at all. Specifically, I divide season two's characters into three categories;
1. The ones that go nowhere
2. The ones that make no sense
3. The ones that backstab you for seemingly no reason
Luke, Nick, Pete, Alvin, Sarita, Carlos and Sarah are all characters that don't go anywhere - they're never allowed to grow or change as time goes on, they remain static. This is employed with Sarah actively to make her story more impactful, but it doesn't remove the problem. Rebecca, Bonnie and Arvo make little to no sense in terms of how they're presented and the actions they take, while Bonnie, Mark and Jane all backstab you in some way for little to no reason, as their problem lies with Kenny and never with Clem. But, that's just my take, and I respect you for liking season two so much. I think we can all agree that season three is overall the worst.
What you said about New Frontier is very true. I just want to add that I loved the dynamic between Javi and Clementine. Javi was an important character in Clem’s life because it was him that reignited Clem’s faith in other people and the fact that people work better together after the New Frontier had made her lose faith in them.
And he gave Clem the confidence she needed to go and find AJ.
It's FENNOY, not Fioni lmao
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I think the dream about saving AJ was just a disguised hint that she wasnt dead. But it took me a bit to realize that because of the shock of what had just happened. Like when you see her missing a leg it took me a solid couple seconds that AJ had chopped it off. Nobody that had played the entire serious was not a bit in shock after the barn scene taking clem back full circle to Lee
season 3 so underrated I really enjoyed it
I 100% agree. I really enjoyed that game and don't get all the hate about it. I really liked that they didn't focus only on 3 characters (Lee, Clem and Kenny (or Jane)) and actually brought up someone elses story (Xavier).
When I first ended the game and she got bit I was balling my eyes out😭 punching my wall and everything😭😭 but when I saw her without her leg at the end of the game I was crying even more😭 bc I was just so happy. It was just a great way to end i game I grew up with and a good way to end Clem’s story because I also matured with her😅
the ranch bit probably was a nightmare, a nightmare about a memory that clementine had while she was passed away because of the leg chop. and clementine looking bad at the barn probably was to the blood loss caused by the scar to her leg
Good to know that I am not the only one that really wanted to see the next Wolf Among US
Well if things are to be believed, we will be seeing the 2nd season sometime in 2023 ... maybe
I always love seeing fellow lovers of the series who are truly passionate about the game and story! ❤️
At 22 years old, playing through The Walking Dead Telltale games back in 2020 helped me realize for the first time that I want to be a parent one day. Getting to see Clementine grow and become a stronger and more whole person throughout her journeys and trials just struck me on a deep, deep level. I realized that one day I want to bring life into the world, I want to share my knowledge and experience with my kids, I want to protect them, guide them, and nurture them, so they can be the best version of themselves that they can possibly be and make it far in this world. For me, that is the true beauty of Telltale's TWD as a piece of art. I appreciated how little the games felt like games by the end of it all. It helped me get so much more lost in the storytelling, even in New Frontier. I will forever love Clementine and her story. Some characters transcend their fictions and become the power and inspiration behind the better angels of our nature. And Clementine is exactly the primary example of that for me. Thank you, Telltale.
That's honestly, probably one of the best comments I've ever read about the effect of game has on someone. While I don't have any personal want to be a parent, I could see where one would get that from this game and I'm glad you were able to find that.
Thank you for your comment ☺️
@@JeremyHannaford Thank you gamer. Sometimes art speaks to us. This was one of those times. You make excellent videos, so keep it up.
I miss telltale
same here man
Man were you spying on me?? I swear I made the exact same choices as you did and my plain of thought is similar to yours for every one them especially the Kenny and clem scene that you chose to see Kenny kill carver and then AJ and Lilly that was exactly what I thought there great vid by the way keep up the good work
Tbh, the other seasons need to be looked at from the perspective of the evolution of Clementine, each of the seasons show Clem evolving and growing up, finding out how to balance life and love, and more!
I know it's a really old video, but I just finished all of the games recently and I have to say that I really love the New Frontier. It would be boring to only play as Clementine for 3 straight seasons, but like this, it's so interesting to see how a Lee-like person can affect Clementine's personality. I loved Javier and the family drama because unlike season 4, its about that there is still some things from the old world. Like the family relationships, politics, societies and that being a good person is still valuable and important. The final season literally built from this idea. Like it's not only about kill or being killed. AJ learned that he has to decide who is the good and the bad person, and when he made a mistake, he learned that he has to ask for forgivness, because at the time, he couldn't make the right choice. So yeah, the final season was built around a much tougher idea, but there is still a lesson from season 3 that AJ learned through Clementine at the end of the game. Btw thank you for the video, it was amazing and I pretty much agree with the other things you said.
In my opinion I think your wrong about letting go the old ways but I do agree about your saying about survival
There should be a middle ground
If u just try to survive why are u better than the walkers? Your just trying to live extra seconds, u need to learn to have love because love is what humans are...
Admittedly, you have a strong argument there. But in a world like the one in The Walking Dead, there would have to be a sacrifice in humanity to survive a world like that.
Which is why I know that I am totally dead if something like this were to happen lol
@@JeremyHannaford So what if there would have to be a sacrifice in humanity to survive in this world? What good is survival if you're only living for yourself and your own continued survival at the expense of others? Humanity is exactly what is needed in a world like this, what with all of society just collapsed and everyone in the same boat of struggling to survive in a broken world. Empathy is a necessity anyways, but especially here
Out of everything I did in this game I could not bring myself to kill Kenny and kept him alive as long as possible until he sadly died.
i always hated how we couldnt agree with lily on that shit like i just crushed her dads head in a worst case scenario situation but now rhey want me to act like her shooting ben woulda been bad
Thank you for the insight! I agree with what you are saying about AJ being pure survivor. I am so glad I let him make the hard calls because then later it got my Louis saved. Great video!
I just finished it and I gotta say the last game gave you so many options on how to play which characters is surviving in the end which I loved
Bruh who lies about a baby being dead and leaves them alone in a freezing car. Jane was not the sane one
Amazing video man sums up my personal things I love and not so love about this serires it has its ups and downs watching clemtine grow though adversity was pretty inspiring they may be gone now but I hope the people who are left move on to even bigger things I miss wolf among us but it did introduce me to fables comics and for that I'm forever greatfull
the ranch scene was her getting aj, it show you the link between season 3 and 4 and how clem now has aj back at the beginning of season 4
Just finished this game and everything you said in this video couldn’t have been said any better. Subbed to you man and hope to see more TWDG content from you in the near future! (Especially with the ‘Clementine Lives’ rumors!)
I'm glad you liked it man. I made this video a few years ago and all of a sudden, it's starting to get attention. I wonder if this Clementine Lives you speak of is the reason why ...
Nice video and I was just thinking about Ben. If you think about it Ben was about the same age as the kids in the final season. Yet they are so different, Ben was so unprepared he could never have survived the way these kids have. He reminds me of Sarah and I like the fact that TellTale represented young characters very differently. I think this is what makes the walking dead games great, every character is different and makes sense (for the most part). Like in real life age or background don't mean everything, I think this is what makes their characters so realistic and why players can relate to them.
I LOOKED A LOT OF THE LAST CHAPTER REVIEWS. THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST ONE. LOVE U
in my opinion. a new frontier as a game on its own is really good. but since it had to relate to szn 1 and 2 then it wasnt a good idea to go with the new frontier idea
15:54 WDYM BRO I WAS BAWLING
I know I’m late to this video but, man, I am impressed. Not only by your relatable writing and style of narration, but also your opinion on the series as a whole.
If I’m being honest, I’m not a gamer. I struggle to have fun playing shooters or co-ops, but have always had time for a single-player narrative style of gaming. The two series I connected with most over the course of my life are BioShock and The Walking Dead. I adore this series of choice-based narratives with well-written characters who can be funny, well-developed, depressing, hateful, loveable, so much more.
With the exception of season three (which I believe is totally skippable if you go from season 2 straight to season 4 with little missed.), I have never connected more with a story in gaming and it’s this series of stories that convinced me how much video games can be considered art. And to me, they are.
Great video, friend. I would love to see a video from you ranking your 10 favourite episodes of the entire 4 seasons and telling us why you liked each one. Keep it up!
@Fak Yiu Tlou Story, the first game, in my opinion its better than The Walking Dead story
love the video it deserves more views
I sobbed for like 20 minutes playing the ending
It wasn’t that sad
@@FatWalterWhite69 yeah it was you just don’t have a heart
@@b__tier I don’t think you know basic anatomy then
@@FatWalterWhite69Who says you’re even human
@@b__tier common sense. You are to retarded to keep arguing with like seriously go back to special ed classes
"A little teary eyed" We all know that you were bawling at the barn scene.
The cool thing about the walking dead final season ending is that it wether you trust your child to make their own decisions or not is the difference between them killing you at your own behest or wether they cut off only the infected part of you.
I worried that the last season was going to be shit when I could put Skybound was doing it, but they came through and gave us an amazing game A new front tier was so forgettable
I loved the new frontier D:
same here
deserves way more views
I was sad for weeks after. that's how good this game is
Sad to see it go, but I’m glad they finished it with what I think is the best season, along side season 1
I used to play all seasons in time except for the last one I just recently finished it and went for a full run for the whole game again lol.. I didn't really think the NF was bad before but I totally agree now after playing it over again and damn a lot of the parts didn't make any sense at all especially with Gabe and Conrad.. I still had fun with it and loved to see how Clem grew up and the story is not so bad except for those few characters who made me hate it.
Great video man.
I let Jane die and then I killed Kenny and I believe that to be a fitting ending to season 2 and its darkness
Jane was asking to get killed
I really enjoyed your content! Love the game and I love to see what other people choose during the storyline. My friends tell me I always pick the most unusual choices. Did you compare your choices like me? Anyway, great video! I hope they continue the series or make a spin-off!
Glad you enjoy it!
Michael Madsen right after I was so happy to hear his voice
This game was my first 18 game. I'm 20 now, but I played it after a month turning 18 and I played it twice until my gaming computer died because of its motherboard. When I get a new one, or encourage myself to fix it, that game will be the number one thing I'll return to. I haven't collected all the collectibles, but I'm going to do that. When the time comes.
With Lily, I told AJ not to shoot her. Specifically cuz I knew that's what the game wanted to have been picked. And seeing both options, it's the one with the least consequences. From shooting Kenny's second girlfriend in the horde, to AJ killing the boy on the bridge. Lee teaching Clem that life is more important than trying to protect what's going to kill you, from how I played as Clem in season 2. Then witnessing AJ making the same decisions I made in season 2 on his own. It was satisfying.
One thing that did annoy me was I'd do something only once, and it would be marked as 'sometimes' or implied that I did it a few times. 'torture is sometimes okay' and 'you killed some zombies when told not to'
Clearly, Last of us was inspired by walking dead season 1....if you will pay attention to that you will notice that the game design was similar....that is why the walking dead is one of the best.
yooo, a wolf among us 2 is coming OUT!!
WHOOP WHOOP
During that final showdown in Season 2, I had exactly the same reasoning as you for killing Kenny. My opinion on how fluctuated so much throughout the first two seasons but i ultimately just felt bad for him, and as you said 'put him out of his misery'. After Jane tells you she just hid AJ, I left her to go alone because thats very screwed up for her to do in my opinion. The last shot of Clem and AJ walking towards the herd was so cool, and I was kinda shocked I was in the minority when i chose to go alone instead of with whoever was spared.
I think it made sense for Clem's arc that season for her to go alone in belief thatshe only needs herself, and it led into Season 3 way better as well.
Good video! Although for me I've always preferred Season 3 over Season 2 because of the annoying fact that barely any of the choices in season 2 mattered as well as how some of the adults are rather dumb and had to rely on a child to do some of the works. And I always thought Javier wasn't that much of a bad protag.
"the wind turbine is broken! Hmm, let's get the little girl to fix it."
I was really annoyed too, clem was just a kid. She shouldn't have that much responsibility or be put in that much risk. She was still at an age where she deserved a childhood.
Idk, them relying on Clementine never stood out to me, barely noticed until Parker's Run, just felt like she was the best person for a lot of the jobs she was given
i only cried in season 2 (when he left you at wellington) kinda did in season 1
Finally someone that actually likes Season 2. I never even pickup the gun at the end
Kenny for life
I love this series so goshdarn much it's so goood
I cried when aj killed Clem but then I was almost disappointed when she was still alive. It just felt unrealistic, the time between when she got bit and when it got cut off she probably would’ve turned. And I just thought the happily ever after ending was super cheesy
It was 15 minutes Lee lasted a day and the massive cut on clementine would've stopped it from spreading dast
I finally got the time to finish the series!!!! So sad it’s been over but forever one of my favorite game series
Played through this series & lwk got sad when it ended, another game would be cool but we could only hope🙏
I like the "Smart" On the Batman flash
My personal favourite Telltale game and I think it is there best work tbh. That Season 2 ending is something else
such a good perspective on themes and the overall plot of the walking dead games. although for some people the story seems weird because they didn’t make decisions that lead to a more fluid understanding, the walking dead games are amazing and have always brought the feeling of the first season of the tv show back into the light. Season 2 was great because it showed the harsh molding of clementine learning what the world had become and using what lee taught her, then season 4 brought great characters and a story that emphasized her continuous challenge of growing up in this world. I like how many of the kids in the boarding school say that they respect clem because she knows how to survive. she has to teach aj what she’s learned and pass this knowledge down. I think this theme is great for zombie apocalypse stories which is exactly what the last of us does so well too. with mostly young adults in part 2 of the last of us it’s all about learning how to grow in a world that is decaying around you. both stories go in completely different directions of course but I feel these similar plots go so well and are done so well at that. Clementines character will always be a tier in all of fiction and I wish there was more season with her and a continuing story.
I was a big fan in 2012/2013 obsessed waiting for season 3. By the time it came out I already moved on and for me this genre didn't age well to me. Even season 4 didn't care much to play I guess I got old and started liking other things but after watching this video I decided to give another shot tho it doesn't feel like it was in 2013 golden age
Dawg the Minecraft stories was good you tripping.
hope your happy because of the wolf among us 2
Loved it so much
I know this is 4 years later so you might not see this but they actualy are working on a season 2 to the wolf among us!
They should keep making more
17:45 the power of spinning the narrative at its finest. It can resonant different between people sure. But the fact that both paths lead to the same end can mean the logic is hollow. Why you ask? If you went the “humanity route” saying you’re scared of AJ, not shooting Lilly, etc, etc. Then by the time you have to kill Clem, the fact AJ fails and cuts the Leg meant that he couldn’t go trough with it and attempted to save her. On the other hand you could say that trusting AJ at every point leading to him killing Ted and Lilly would mean that AJ was very Cold Blooded and therefore would have been able to kill Clem at the end. It’s not that the ending was a masterpiece and only made sense because of “the uploader’s choices” but rather TellTale being TellTale and making all choices lead to the same outcome at the end of the day excluding some details here and there.
PS: it’s not that I took the opposite choices, I too trusted AJ to make the hard decisions. This is just some criticism on spinning the narrative to accommodate an unsteady point.
i kind of disagree. AJ never would have been able to kill Clem. maybe after she already turned, although i doubt it, but from the very beginning he made every decision with the thought of Clem behind it. how was he protecting himself, and most importantly protecting her. he was devoted and loyal to Clem to almost a fault. that’s why he ends up disobeying her request to kill her. i took it as AJ not being so cold blooded he could kill her, because we don’t think about that when it comes to Clem killing Lee, but him having no other person in his life that he truly loves like he does her. so he, until the assumed very end, did what he thought would save her.
Very well done. I liked New Frontier though. It was a fresh turn from Clem as main character.
Wolf Among Us was RAD. Sucks we never got anymore seasons.
Amazing recap video. Funny enough, A New Frontier was my favorite and most memorable of all seasons, I thought the last one was a little weak
I felt like if they killed off clementine then it would be extra emotional for all the players and more realistic. Regardless the ending was still heartwarming