If it exists... what could it be?
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
- It's been called Switch 2, NX2, the next Nintendo console... but a rumour has given it the title Switch Attach. In this video, we take seriously the possibility that it could be true because there is something i the concept of attaching that just makes a huge amount of sense.
00:00 Intro
00:59 Philosophy
06:39 Ultrahand
09:51 Multiplicative Technologies
14:29 Attach Technology
16:32 Spatial Attachments
Lots of people thought the Wii U was an accessory to the Wii.. making the next Switch actually be an attachment is crazy enough to work.
read a history book....
@@aofi3735, what do you mean by that?
@@stripedrajang3571The fact that people thought the Wii U was just an "update" or "accessory" to the Wii was disastrous. It was a major reason why it didn't sell very well. People who already owned a Wii didn't think there was any reason to upgrade. Therefore, it doesn't make any sense to say that it's "crazy enough to work" because the last time it borderline ruined the system.
I see.
@@stripedrajang3571 just about every console up until the gamecube had a major attachment to improve power and proformance yet all of these (cd sega a little excluded) had failed in the market and with value. not to mention very few accessories at all have had skyrocketing salesor used as any more than gimics
One thing I enjoyed with the 3DS family was street pass. I really hope they bring that back in the future. Even if it’s just tagging people, as I really enjoyed seeing how many people had a system that I met/was around.
That would be incredible!!!!
Yes yes yes! This! And Miiverse. I want Miiverse to return so much. Additionally, I want UI with the amount of love and soul out into it like the Wii U, 3DS, Wii and DSi did. I miss the old Nintendo.
nintendo switch -> nintendo attach -> nintendo combine -> nintendo stack up -> nintendo connect -> nintendo insert -> nintendo Add On -> nintendo morph -> nintendo inject -> nintendo spread -> nintendo clump -> ....
What are you talking about? That's not the right list of future Nintendo consoles.
@@user-bq4ud1dg1cthe concept of sarcasm and dare I say a joke isn’t a rare occasion.
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dude I'm so glad I found your channel you are just what I was looking for I'm so sick of listening to the other Nintendo news channels and their shallow clickbait trash
I agree.
Somebody that actually know the company from their mission and history... who would have known.
I'd like to think they learned enough from the Wii U not to name a flagship product something as confusing and vague as Switch Attach.
I feel like it's definitely less vague than 'Wii U', what did the U stand for? I'm sure I could google it but considering what you got out the box, it wasn't obvious what the selling point was from the name. Whereas at least the attach in switch attach means, well, you attach something (assumingly). It's less vague than them using a name like "Switch 2" "Switch Super/Super Switch".
Yo! Thanks for the shout-out. Great video as usual! Super happy to see how much you've been thriving with these switch 2 videos :)
Thank you - means a lot!
The issue with the possibility of 'attach', is it's an inferior name like the Switch. And also the WiiU problem where it could sound like an accessory to a console. And upgrade Switch 2 with a good design would sell great numbers.
I really enjoy hearing your take on these things. You have a really unique perspective and talk about things from an angle other Nintendo CZcamsrs don’t.
Thank you!
I think you are bang-on. Nintendo have almost certainly been thinking along these lines. The hardcore Nintendo fans mostly just want more power, but I don’t think that will enable them to rapidly grow the market with more casual players like they did in the (3)DS/wii era. Nor will it protect them against the competition. Like you pointed out, there are other devices already encroaching into the Switch’s territory. Who knows what else might become available in the next few years. Even if they don’t call it the ‘switch attach’, the most likely area for them to add on some new proprietary experience IMHO would be to have some kind of new input control. Also, a few years back they were talking a lot about ‘quality of life’ applications. Ways of game-ifying health and wellness. I can see something like that expanding the market while still allowing them to have a more power to please the hardcore gaming community. But if the only difference between the Switch 2 and the Switch is more power, it will focus the whole conversation onto a comparison of Switch 2 with XBOX and PS, and they can’t win that fight.
Your channel truly is insightful! Not just an average rumor-news coverage channel, but one that loves to dive into Nintendo's approach to game design and philosophy! That's the stuff I like! ♡
Maybe we'll just attach whatever it is to the bottom of the base switch. It will be a second screen as well as modularly upgrading the performance of the base switch.
This is all very doubtful, but that was my idea.
Nintendo won't do add-ons again. They learned their lesson from the 64DD
@agromchung I think you're right and also I don't think they'd want to increase the weight of the Switch. It's a very cool concept though.
How about VR or camera module as well? I think they would put it on the top side instead of back or bottom side since they probably don’t want wrap around plastic.
One thing I'd note on second screen as an attachment is that the Switch already has some ability to detect if another switch is near, and where it is physically oriented relative to it, as demonstrated in Super Mario Party's toad house minigames. Most notably the banana minigame where the aim is to place the two switches in the correct orientation with each other to make a complete banana.
It is entirely... If disturbingly... Plausible for me for the Switch 2's handheld mode to have a slot to attach an original Switch as a second screen to it, or to use a Switch as a controller for a Switch 2 when docked in some games. Despite that risking the confused messaging around the Wii U where people didn't seem sure if it was a new system or an addon for the Wii, and same with the 3ds having some market confusion if it was a new system or a new model of DS (and, I'd be nervous about the Switch 2 being called the Switch Attach for that reason)
11:15 They could have generalized the horse petting to pet everything. Imagine petting Ganon! Then this would have been the game of the year for sure.
I feel like a detachable screen would be pretty cool, as that provides for multiple play styles, for use as a separate screen for separate players, use for 3ds ports, and things that use the bottom screen, or just making the screen bigger
re: statement of intent to merge mobile and home consoles: the gamecube also had a screen attachment and gameboy tethering/playthrough
I feel like enthusiast circles like ours vastly overestimate the success of handheld PCs. Hell, the Steam Deck (seemingly the most successful one of the lot) isn’t even sold at retail. The average person probably don’t care about said handheld PCs, & I’d be surprised if Nintendo considers them as any sort of threat.
Your profile pic is disgusting. Change it. It's offensive
Whether the next system succeeds or fails, I'm just ready for another generation refresh.
The easiest and laziest thing to do is to be a passive member of the audience.
Tired of the drought…However, I think they should still take time if they want some more tweaks to the system. Knowing Nintendo, I think they will wait til the switch game sales declined. Even with the declining sales, a new console is still too much risk.
Thank you bro!
VR gloves is an obvious development without hindsight, so I don't think that'll be the main thing they end up with.
Those seem like one step above the Valve Index controllers.
@@Loanshark753 Didn't say they weren't, just that it won't be what gets Valve to make a game.
Awesome! More of labo, ring fit, 12switch, and switch sports, what a great set of games to base a new console and design philosophy on!
I miss the IR sensor. It was one of my favorite things on the Wii. I know I'm in the minority but I loved the IR pointer in gallery shooters, wario ware and Mario galaxy.
I wonder if the IR camera in the right joycon would be capable of wii style tracking if held upside down in front of a lightbar and coded with new special software. It is also interesting how the joycons are a compromise between the Wii Remote+Nunchuck, Wii U Gamepad/Switch Lite and the Pro Controller. Permanently attached controllers are better if there is no stick drift however the additional flexibility offered by the joycons are incredible, however they still do not incorporate every feature from the Wii Remote and the comfort is not that of an Pro Controller.
I am hoping the follow up to switch adds two new play modes to go alongside the existing handheld, TV and tabletop modes. These would be; streaming to the TV for dual screen (local split screen across 2 screens, asynchronous games like nintendo land), and VR (imagine when paired with screen streaming, asynchronous local multiplayer VR games).
The main appeal of the switch to me is it's ability to offer so many different kinds of experiences. You can play big games on the TV, small games in bed, exercise with ring fit or just dance, Nintendo Labo is a wild and interesting game, play touch screen games, motion control games. Having the flexibility to play all these types of games in the ways you'd hope to play them make the switch a great device to invest in. As someone who seeks diverse experiences from games I can say I have appreciated being able to play in all the ways i've listed above. I am hoping with the successor to switch 2 I can add VR and asynchronous multiplayer to that list!
While i'm not convinced Nintendo will attempt all of these ideas for their next system (VR in particular is something that Nintendo are incredibly interested in but just havent found a cheap enough, accessible way to make it appeal to the masses.. yet) i do love some of the ideas you've put together here; particularly the hand tracking stuff, which feels completely in line with Nintendo's past successes in lowering barriers to play such as the initutive, simplified controls on Wii/DS, and Switch's ability to adapt around your living situation.
I also 100% agree that it makes sense for Nintendo to continue to innovate for their next system which will carry them into the early 2030s, rather than stick with the same proposition that will have had out in the market for 8 years by the time the NG system launches.
Damn these are some good ideas
Ok this is the first speculation video that's gotten me genuinely excited to see what the Switch 2 might be. I hope they do something unconventional with it; something to nudge us closer to accessible AR and VR gaming.
I had a dream where the thing just had screens on both sides 😭
damn good ideas
The Labo should have always been a Nintendo + Lego collab not cardboard or at least there should have been a lego option.
If they bring back a power glove but it's actually good, I will pre-order that thing.
It’s a a dual screen device that you can share the top section with someone else to play locally or use as a new DS
yes, as console addons are notorious for taking off and being really worth it
so youre saying the xbox kenect or power glove, the wii u2/ labo, or something that destroys the entire appeal of play console games where you are? idk man...
interesting thoughts... but the simplest solution that's not far afield from customer expectations is a new doc that amps power and streams HD, just like the wii U. thereby the switch is still usable, but new.games.can be developed for a home-console style development cycle.
When the Switch came out I always thought later down the line they would release a dock with extra GPU and CPU power but I guess from a programming perspective it wouldn't be ideal
The problem with that is that it would really limit the scope of 1st party games as they would likely need to still be compatible with the base power.
PS5 does fine despite having limited power only as an option for streaming to PS Portal.
What's so bad about the prospect of a Nintendo PS5 that simply can also stream onto the current Switch? Will it sell worse than 12 million Wii Us? Or worse than 3 million STEAM DECKS?
I think the code-name for the Switch's successor is just "Attach" but whoever made the CZcams poll just decided to put "Switch" right before "Attach".
Know what will be so cool. In Metroid prime Samus use right hand jesters to change the beams. Imagine with the ir senior on the right joy con to do the same in real life.
3ds had ir camera and receiver too, probably just they wanted to be open to potential legacy support
Really hope this means the patent where it describes the ability to screen cast and utilze local wirless multiplayer with phones and tablets; even without the extra players havjng to own either the game player 1 is playing or a Switch 2; is a real thing.
Now I'm wondering if both the LCD and OLED rumors were correct. It has two screens!
That's a fantastic observation. Hmm.
Nintendo Switch Connect flows much better. Both for connecting multiple consoles locally and online, as well as connecting attachments.
I prefer a more traditional gaming experience. I don’t really want to have to use weird motion controls personally. Hand tracking is cool but I hope they don’t go that route.
attach like a VR and AR hmd?
VR set would just be the Nintendo Vision
I'd go with Switch Sense
I wonder if an ir sensor bar down the back of the new joycons w wider grip could read the movement of your fingers. could the new joycon attach to some kind of wrist grip to use a finger movement capture system
Cool thoughts I do think there's a chance that a switch or switch lite could be used with the new console as a controller. I think nintendo is very aware that many games in their back library cannot come to the modern system without two screens
Yes, I agree with this.
I think Nintendo Attach works better as a name compared to Switch Attach, like, wouldn't confuse customers as Wii U did. Or obviously Switch 2 or Super Switch or whatever.
But these ideas are pretty awesome, I hardly ever play Switch these days but this sort of VR, Ultrahand stuff, would totally get me intrigued. Zelda VR stuff would possibly sell me on it. Though I could see myself waiting for No More Heroes 4 or ARMS 2 still, haha.
Yeah, I was just thinking afterwards if they went with "Attach" they should drop the "Switch". Great comments.
How about Nintendo Attach & Switch. Nintendo attach & switch is still not confusing and hint at continuation of hybrid functionality in a minor way. It is also a subtle reference to game & watch
The 3DS is really the only system where they numbered it, but by getting players to focus on the top screen, they lost so much of what made the DS great, the bottom screen. The Wii U sort of did the same thing, going from Wiimote/Waggle to a big ol' tablet and buttons.
Well I bet a new console called The Nintendo 3DS Spocco will have one screen instead of two screens.
Gamepad didn't replace wiiremote it was a addition to it and peoplemdidnt understand that TECHNICALLY wiiu is the greatest gaming device concept ever created but trying to explain it to normies is impossible. And joycons failed to truly replace the wiiremote and chuck I think switch 2 will step forward to currecting these problems, hands apart 3d gyro motion and control is engineeringly the perfect gaming controller. Fo tv and vr and gyro ouse touch screen is the perfect way to replicate that in portable gaming
What if the "attach" in Switch Attach is that it attaches to you and the Switch!
Havent watched the video yet but perhaps a new switch that "attach"es to a new dock with real hardware in it to give a boost to the successor handheld.
that would be awesome, but would still require games to be able to run on the og switch's hardware in handheld. not sure how i'd feel about that.
although MAYBE it could be like 4k cloud play where you could use the new dock's hardware remotely? that way you could play handheld with the power of the dock! wouldnt work well on planes , though 😭
@@jubbsticksmusicyeah it would have its challenges.
I think everyone loves Nintendo's innovations but the company has a bad habit of leaning into ideas too early and just creating gimmicks that don't appeal to the mass consumer base (think virtual boy or the Wii u with its silly gamepad)
The Wii U sort of uses the bottom screen for stylus touching games.
Great connection. I thought they might release a SuperDock to add to the Switch as a mid-gen refresh but I guess they didn't want the handheld and docked experiences to be so different - after all, people have to program for both and the majority of play is handheld. Might be less of an issue on a new system where most third parties have been developing in the PS4 to PS5 crossgen space anyway.
There is no way this is the real name
Hilarious video but I'm afraid you're coming dangerously close to describing one of my least favourite games: Zelda Skyward Sword with Motion Controls. Climbing in BOTW might not be fun, it might be a colossal drag. I hated Skyward Sword because of the dopey controls. Maybe we can just step away from motion controls in the future?
Mouse is a motion controller and has been doing fine. You're extrapolating way too much just from your own reactionary preferences, and that's what Playstation is for. To come along and copy all those innovations after the fact, for people who just want to sunk money into it to make problems go away, not gamers who want to go elbow deep into feeling the solutions.
I know what you mean. I was using the Zelda stuff more as an illustration but while I think Skyward Sword could be fun and immersive, I agree it often felt too limited, too gimmicky and too finicky compared to trad controls. But it's about execution. Splatoon is a better examples of motion controls feeling essential and I love Arms and Mario Tennis with controls. I think I'd rather Nintendo try and sometimes fall on their face than play it safe too much.
I would rather them if they want a second screen make a switch DS upgraded to Xbox. One levels has all the functionality it has now, but has a top second screen the top screen actually functions as the main screen, and the bottom screen actually functions as what the DS screen function as
If the new console doesn’t run mr games at 60 fps and can’t run unreal engine at good settings then don’t buy it. We gotta stop having low standards
Well if you attach it to your switch and it's a second screen on top cuz giant 3ds then I'm still in
nf, how do you think nintendo will use ai in development, design, and gameplay?
Apple Japan is a huge factor in the ongoing Vtuber boom and for example Hololive provides talent with dedicated iPhones to securely run the digital avatar software.
This is certainly something Nintendo would want to use to create a barrier between children who are vulnerable on social media, and the risk factor of FTC complaints which has kept Nintendo at bay from exploring ways to contact with random people on the internet.
AI could be an advanced alternative to generated content, like Dark Souls messages resembling "Try finger but hole" and stuff like that.
Excellent question. Big question. I'd need to research to give a decent answer - probably deserves a video. I'll @ you and shout you out if/when it gets made (will probably be a few weeks at least). Thanks for the question!
maybe the nintendo switch attach is a remake of the power glove
I think attach is just there because no name has been given to the next system
If I could, I would be turning it all off, just using the buttons and the graphics
Whatever Nintendo is doing, we know it involves a screen that's marginally larger than the Switch's screen. What if the current Switch as we know it will be the bottom screen?
If they could somehow attach a second screen to their next console, they could port DS games and make tons of $ in nostalgia
I feel like modern nintendo has shyed away from the "tool for play" philosophy and is just focusing on making good games and hardware that can support good games
I'd prefer the name Switch Stack or Switch Clip or Switch Snap
If the Switch 2 is actually called the Switch Attach, I just won't buy it.
add VR to switch. switch attach to face
Nintendo Focus
attach your switch to your real life (home, arm, face)
zeldamaker pls god
Ah ha! We always want Zelda maker. We also want Kirby Maker.
@@user-bq4ud1dg1c kirby kreator
if the double screen comes back it will become that harder to emulate it again, specially on steamdeck
And harder to stream it also 👍
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They should attach POWER to the new Switch.
We always got power to the new consoles
Nintendo is so bad at accessibility. They want you to do things one way because they think it's the best way. For example, in mario galaxy the host levels with only motion controls really sucked. It made me stop playing that game.
switch attach sounds like something of an accessory and not a name for a console, at least i hope not since it would be another wii u situation. Something like mentioned in ur last vid about how nintendo can branch out into different adjacent products like they've done this gen but even more. Since i expect an evolution to the switch, i agree nintendo will focus on more ways to use ur system. As pointed out similarly to the 3ds while keeping it fundamentally a better switch for hardcore fans with docking, undocking, and tabletop as usual, you add a integrated feature like a dual screen that allows u not just the obv DS style but a Wii U? Basically u can use the second screen as a gamepad. The Wii U while called a prototype switch was also a home console version DS tbh. So games like Nintendo land or Xenoblade X that utilized the gamepad will be easier to port over. And while we've seen how they handle their handheld ports, this would allow them to further transition those over especially when a NSO online for DS comes. And like the 3d feature, it wont be used on all games prob only nintendo's first party for the most part (and hopefully more common too) since it's an optional feature which gives third parties the option to ignore and treat the next console as a switch. Having it as a integral part of the system would just discourage both consumers and developers so Nintendo treating it as a contemporary would be enough
Voice in video sounds like AI.
It's my voice.
I think vr is a much better idea
a joy-con with a screen that attaches to your wrist that allows you to game on The Go when you can't game on your switch screen
Joy cons are always included in the future Nintendo consoles. For example, the Nintendo 3DS Spocco will have a d-pad and will come with Joy cons.
The official name will be: Nintendo Switch More.
Shut up, the 3DS Spocco is first and then comes the Switch. The new switch will be Switch Attach.
@@user-bq4ud1dg1c nope. It will be Switch More
attach switch and phone together?
No, no, you can't attach your phone on the Switch. It needs to be the switch itself.
I said this from the beginning it could actually being a thing.. imagine a dock that allows switch and switch 2 to dock allowing switch to be a co processor
I would like a switch that could connect not only to my tv but to my pc, and allow me to stream my games on discord without the need of a video capture recorder, not much of a change but an upgrade.
What about a console with movable parts? Like a rubicks cube, something you could play with outside of the videogame. Maybe the parts themselves could be handles.
Without additional software on your PC, That is not really possible. The general population have GPUs that are only HDMI/DP out, so you need an additional capture card. They COULD theoretically make a program that would get input from the switch when connecting through USB, but that is not exactly something Nintendo would do
Never going to happen
Nintendo could do exactly that. Wii U had a proprietary miracast that necessitated the home console, but it was a brilliant technical solution for streamed video and controls that pre-empted the surprise success of PS Portal.
If Nintendo has been working for a long time with monitor manufacturers, this miracast recipient doesn't really need to be on a Nintendo console, it can jsut be licensed to smart TV manufacturers.
TSMC just opened a huge Kumamoto JASM manufacturing plant, that could do just such a thing. Video operating chip that could create Digital AR for monitors, in other words, just have characters walk right into another device. The cumbersome feedback loop of camera footage to create AR is not really necessary, but imagine if you could compute individual CHARACTERS on some portable device that can stream them onto any monitor in your house, and recognize what software is playing on THAT monitor already. It could be Miiverse for your complete digital universe. Any tablet with the chip could be a window to the Pikmin living digitally all over your home, in a fictional cyberspace simply mapped to locations in real life.
Also, Nintendo would then with these TV manufacturers move past the HDMI monopoly, which was actually a huge factor in their previous consoles, same as CD licensing. This kind of technology could be the next step to make HDMI outdated like RCA. True local wireless, the video equivalent of Bluetooth audio. Sony is definitely researching this avenue with Playstation Link subsuming any bluetooth functions.
I hope they does something like that. I am not buying an iterrative update to their previous console.
4:36 I'm so glad I learnt how to replace the joysticks on my joycons. Takes all of 5 minutes to open them up and put a new one in, plus a couple minutes for calibration. It’s been saving me so much money and grief. It’s sad Nintendo have thrown their history of build quality away with the Switch. My old GBA and Gamecube still work just as well as the day I bought them, but I've replaced my joycon joysticks half a dozen times now.
VR! VR!!!
Switch Attach is a horrible name, it would be Wii U all over again
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What poll, where was it from? You are just clickbaiting and making a video based upon a vapid source.
"Switch Attach" is a TERRIBLE name. So awful in fact that it'd make me not WANT one. SUPER NINTENDO SWITCH just looks, sounds and sells MUCH better. But knowing Nintendo, they'll come up with some goofy name.
Nintendo is the richest company in Japan they can make a powerful console to compete but they choose not to because they like to be different and shoehorn gimmicks into everything.
Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard but nice try.
3 views in 2 minutes… Bro fell off 💀
Kids these days...
132 views in 13 minutes.. no he didnt?
Nintendo tracking this😂
Look, its just a horrible concept, please don't encourage them.
The new console from Nintendo is called the Nintendo SHIFT...
If they want to try and make a gimmick for hardware, that is fine, but the switch allowed for millions upon millions of people to enjoy their IPs who never had before. All's I know is the next console needs to be able to support 3rd party games, and Nintendo needs to release quality first party software like they did for the switch. I think if they focus on software, they will continue the success of the switch.